And 170 Labour MPs are looking at the candidate to face off against Corbyn and are mulling over Piers Morgan's words "If I'd known the bar was so low, I'd have had a go myself..."
Poor Angela Eagle. History will remember her as a footnote to the footnote.
Whenever I hear the song 'maybe it's because I'm a Londoner/that I love London town' I'm tempted to agree because there's no reason other than habit to love an expensive, ugly, smelly, dirty, noisy, overcrowded wasteland like London. Anyone with any sense lives elsewhere.
I think I would rather live in Newport than London although admittedly it would be a close call. I'd take London over Cinderford but that's about the only place I'd like less than London.
Oh c'mon man, have you never BEEN to Middlesbrough?
I live in the glorious English county of Hampshire.
Hampshire is indeed lovely.
I suspect that sort of experience (with an equally good if less urban view) is available at much more of an affordable price in the provinces. But, nevertheless, I am curious as to (roughly) whereabouts in the great city you will be enjoying your drink,...?
West Hampstead. As I am on a hill I get fantastic views across London. And, particularly, of the evening sky. And because of our location when there are fly pasts down the Mall we can see those on the TV then rush upstairs and see them fly in front of us as they go out of London. Fireworks night is splendid. We get to see everyone else's fireworks, cheapskates that we are! You're probably right about the price now though not so much when I bought 26 years ago.
My little corner is surprisingly quiet, surrounded by trees and within 2 minutes walk there is a lot of green space and even more within 10 minutes walk away. But what I love above all about my street is that most people living here have been here for a long time. There is very little of that constant purchase/sale that you get in some other areas. And the housing is mixed: some renters and some housing association homes. So not all rich City types who are never there. It's ordinary - for London anyway (though even I could not afford to buy here now). There are lots of retreats and corners like this in London, though I can see why those not living here might think of it as a "fucking shithole". But it isn't.
Well I never, the first place I lived in London was near you, down the hill in Dennington Park Road, later Greencroft Gardens. I helped get one of your current local councillors first get elected back in 1986. And the flypasts made me smile, as well - when I realised I couldn't afford to buy in NW6 I moved to South Woodford, and enjoyed a flypast experience too -whenever there was a central London flypast the aircraft gather over Fairlop plain and then flew directly over my house on the way to SW1 - so we could watch them fly over then rush to the TV to see them go over the Palace!
I think we can guess at why house prices are a problem. ttps://twitter.com/montie/status/755413874975903744
Has Monty considered that the worst recession in our lifetime may have had something to do with that?
Also there's only so much of London &SE that is still OK to build on once you've excluded the Green Belt.
My local town is still the same size as it was during the 80s when I was growing up despite huge population increase. It hasn't seen anything like the expansion and development that occurred in the 60s and 70s, probably due to nimbyism.
To be honest, most towns could expand onto the next row of farmers fields around their fringes and provide hundreds of new decent homes in so doing.
People don't want to live in the provinces though. There are ~90k people in all of Monmouthshire. Bags of room for new houses. Not that much demand. House price inflation is running at ~3%.
Most people do live in the provinces and are a damn sight happier there than they would be in London or thereabouts.
London is a fucking shithole.
I live in the glorious English county of Hampshire.
Hampshire is indeed lovely. But I can bring you to my bit of London and show you somewhere glorious. On a day like today and in a few hours I will be sitting on my terrace having a drink and looking over London and at the glorious evening sky. The only sounds to be heard will be birds and ice clinking in a glass.
I think we can guess at why house prices are a problem. ttps://twitter.com/montie/status/755413874975903744
Has Monty considered that the worst recession in our lifetime may have had something to do with that?
Also there's only so much of London &SE that is still OK to build on once you've excluded the Green Belt.
My local town is still the same size as it was during the 80s when I was growing up despite huge population increase. It hasn't seen anything like the expansion and development that occurred in the 60s and 70s, probably due to nimbyism.
To be honest, most towns could expand onto the next row of farmers fields around their fringes and provide hundreds of new decent homes in so doing.
People don't want to live in the provinces though. There are ~90k people in all of Monmouthshire. Bags of room for new houses. Not that much demand. House price inflation is running at ~3%.
Perhaps a truly federal Britain would be better placed to spread development around the country? Seems to me that federal countries like the US and Germany have a more equal distribution of big/important cities (NYC, LA, Miami, Chicago, Houston. Berlin, Frankfurt, Hamburg, Munich) - and therefore, a healthier population distribution - than unitary states like Britain and France, both massively and unhealthily dominated by their respective capitals.
Bit late for us to address being dominated by our Primary city - it's fluctuated, of course, but it has dominated for something like 1000 years.
Paris has a population of around 2 million. It's a village compared to London. A French village.
The metropolitan area is 12m. The city boundaries are drawn quite tightly.
Yes, only the area within the peripherique is real Paris. It would be like saying London ends at zone 2. Come to think of it, that's what many people believe.
I believe Mr Meeks has said the same thing.
May I enquire of anyone who might know, I hope @AlastairMeeks is OK? I haven't noticed him posting for a while.
Whenever I hear the song 'maybe it's because I'm a Londoner/that I love London town' I'm tempted to agree because there's no reason other than habit to love an expensive, ugly, smelly, dirty, noisy, overcrowded wasteland like London. Anyone with any sense lives elsewhere.
I think I would rather live in Newport than London although admittedly it would be a close call. I'd take London over Cinderford but that's about the only place I'd like less than London.
Bet you'd pick London or perhaps even Slough over Bridgend. Golly, what a depressing place that is.
Whenever I hear the song 'maybe it's because I'm a Londoner/that I love London town' I'm tempted to agree because there's no reason other than habit to love an expensive, ugly, smelly, dirty, noisy, overcrowded wasteland like London. Anyone with any sense lives elsewhere.
I think I would rather live in Newport than London although admittedly it would be a close call. I'd take London over Cinderford but that's about the only place I'd like less than London.
Oh c'mon man, have you never BEEN to Middlesbrough?
Back in the 80s, I remember going on a random long Sunday drive with my boyfriend down the coast and ending up nr Immingham.
Golly, the dirty yellow pollution hung over it from miles away. Consett just after the closure of the steel works was entirely orange with rust - it was much more appealing.
@MrHarryCole: Another missed chance for Labour to finally elect a female leader...
Well, in brutal honesty, since the only objective is to persuade Labour members to vote for the not-Corbyn candidate, it would be silly to pick a woman to stand against him, wouldn't it?
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Poor Angela Eagle. History will remember her as a footnote to the footnote.
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Would have been quite funny if they had said 'Angela Eagle: toast for breakfast' though.
Golly, the dirty yellow pollution hung over it from miles away. Consett just after the closure of the steel works was entirely orange with rust - it was much more appealing.