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Alistair Campbell would be turning in his grave were it not for the fact that he’s not dead. Not only did the Labour supporters booing the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg at Jeremy Corbyn’s speech on Thursday drive the wedge between party and media that bit further but it distracted from the main purpose of the event, which was for the Labour leader to add his weight to the Remain camp.
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Edit: Drat!
Complaining about the BBC can definitely be a good strategy, though it needs you to have supportive parts of the media to back up the claim. Corbynites just have twitter and bits of the Guardian, so they've got problems.
Particularly since they're sort of right. BBC political news journalists don't have much time for them. Though possibly they don't have much time for them because the Corbynites are crap, which isn't really bias.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/06/02/europe-if-britain-leaves-others-will-follow/
If we go, other EU countries people think others will follow.
A majority of the population in every country polled except Finland - and a tendency even in Finland - believe it is likely more countries will choose to leave the EU in the event of a Brexit. Swedes (69%) are the most likely to think other EU countries will follow the UK out the EU, closely followed by the Danes (66%).
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/06/02/europe-if-britain-leaves-others-will-follow/
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/28/ed-miliband-warns-britain-could-leave-eu-if-young-people-dont-vote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cTZb0zScwE
*evil laughter*
No other programme on the main terrestrial broadcasters was given such a low score last weekend, and an AI score of 60 puts Top Gear on a par with Daybreak, the ill-fated ITV breakfast show that was axed in 2014.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/03/top-gear-worst-programme-of-last-weekend-say-viewers/
I am sure SHOUTY MC-SHOUTY FACE will be on twitter shortly to tell us it is all nonsense and FACT top gear is a hit.
oh, it's only weekend telly.. lol
http://bit.ly/21bihJl
Cameron in a video YouTube advert! On a mathematics channel! Talking about how I shouldn't worry about Turkey joining the EU!
Golly. Someone is worried.
I'm not sure that I'm saying that I'm quite ready to vote Labour for the first time ever (as strongly disliking them for all my life up to now is quite a mental hurdle to get over) but I'm certainly feeling a pull towards them that I've never felt before.
I wanted to vote Labour in the local elections last month but couldn't quite make the psychological leap in the polling booth when the pencil was in my hand. Strange times.
Trump's changed the date of his UK visit to the day before the referendum.
Mr Herdson, in describing Corbyn and his clique, you might well have been describing Lenin's management of the Communist party before they came to power.
There needs to be an independent outfit doing that, like Nielsen.
Please please do me a favour and don't do that looooooooo... Thing you do on last thread. It completely fecked up my I phone for the entire thread and made it unreadable. ( on top of the nesting issues)
even if I did agree with your sentiment.
1. The "hissing" was a very short interruption by a small number of people who, contrary to what David writes, were immediately hushed by Corbyn. MPs put up with far worse in any well-attended Commons debate. Nor are journalists generally shrinking violets, intimidated by the reaction of a few random strangers. It's not a good thing that someone is rude, not least as it encourages reporting the event as a process story, but it's also not a big deal.
2. Short of total stage management, it's literally impossible to guarantee that nobody in a large audience will not say or do something you don't entirely like - all you can really do is tell them to stop it.
3. The decision not to share a platform with the Tories on the EU is both a direct lesson from the Scottish referendum, when it proved to be nearly suicidal, and also in the interest of providing a distinctive non-Tory case for Remain. Otherwise we'd be hearing all about the Establishment parties ganging up together. For Sadiq to do it is one thing, but the party leader should avoid it, and I'd advise the same whoever the leader was.
The point I do agree with is that it's worth putting more effort into media outreach than is currently being done. But imposing omerta on party gatherings is not the way to do it. If the worst that anyone in political debate encounters is the odd hiss, not many will genuinely be very affronted. The journalists who I know are much more worried and annoyed about pressure on their editors by spin doctors of all sides - something which David paradoxically argues was the perfect strategy, and which is actually not (so far as I know) being done by Labour at the moment.
Ye fecking gods...
Interestingly Chuka Umunna has claimed in a debate held by the Daily Express that there will be no EU army. I don't know why these Eurofanatics insist on denying what everyone else in Europe openly admits to.
Anyway enough about FIFA what about the EU?
If the former how the hell do the people who stream YouTube Ads know that I am interested in politics? Aside from My IP address there is no connection between my identity on here and my identity on YouTube.
We are going to need to rebuild the pragmatic centre ground that David talks about. I don't think it can be done in either the Conservative or Labour parties.
A lot of people find this creepy. Personally I quite like it because I know I'm going to see ads anyway so they may as well be things that (potentially) interest me.
What makes me think that in a few months' time we'll all be wishing for the immediate return of Dave Cameron and Ed Miliband, nostalgic for better days?
Whatever... I'm here now. So, maybe you can receive me at Downing Street with the respect due to a possible POTUS. Wanna act the jerk, instead?
Hey Man, no problem.
Where's the nearest mike? I feel a press conference coming on... Some kinda vote happening tomorrow, so I hear..."
Look at the "Patrick Party" manifesto, the discussion which was so horribly cut off by the mods on this site as it was gaining traction. Aside from the usual tribalist nutters, I would expect that the huge majority of people on here and in the real world would vote for that party if it existed.
Now that party doesn't exist, probably never will exist, but its "unique selling point" (to borrow from Roger's jargon) was not that it sat on the mythical centre ground (which only exists in the minds of people who think of politics as two dimensional) but in the common ground that bit of the 3D world where most of us actually live.
https://twitter.com/ukipwebmaster/status/738873213409742849
Loved the comparing ties bit.
"Remember your vote tomorrow, folks. Lyin' Dave... Bible high, we're better off in the EU..."
Sunil J. Prasannan"Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of EU directives entering UK Law, until the Great British Public's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on!"Firstly my thanks to all for the way adverts YouTube actually work. I find it much less "creepy" (tm Wanderer) now I understand the process a little more.
Secondly, and for Wanderer in particular, the Patrick Party Manifesto was certainly not "far out to the right". People from the Left and the Right were saying they would be happy to sign up to it.
It is amazing how much common ground there is once we can dump the labels and the tribalism.
Now much as I might consider a Tesla one day I'd like the choice...
Please tell me this is a spoof. I can't see how it's a spoof but what the hell?
"Last night, sensational video emerged showing Juncker obviously drunk in public, hopping from foot to foot and slapping other EU leaders. A second member of the “Five Presidents”, Donald Tusk, stands next to him looking uneasy"
http://heatst.com/uk/five-presidents-eus-jean-claude-juncker-drunk-in-public-slaps-leaders/
Well at least I can vote him out the next time the election comes around.....
Oh wait...
John Harris pens the truth about Dave.
Better still...Speed it up and put it to Benny Hill music and it will certainly resonance.
I used to dislike him immensely. This was impressive.
Well, it's no more ridiculous than a lot of claims in the referendum campaign so far...
The EU is not a left right centre issue. It is a right/wrong issue.
If we left, then that debate would be over. If the remain Conservatives wanted to go off and join the Liberal Democrats they could... but frankly I doubt many would.
The flaw in this whole thing for British voters is that it's not clear they'll have a way to vote *for* him, since the Tories have left the main centre-right group.
It's the British Open now. Humility trumps arrogance.
Unfortunately, Gove is still in the Cabinet and as such can't be seen to disagree with the status quo too much.