Oh my word - James Brokenshire is AWFUL on Sky talking about immigration. He looks really weird and spouting obvious bollocks.
Long thought of him as a sub standard minister, a bed blocker for better talent on the back benches and more junior ranks. Good news for LEAVE the more talk is on immigration.
Mr. Herdson, isn't an issue with Sanders that he'll be (effectively) the loser of the race, the supply teacher candidate? Biden would be stepping out of retirement (assuming he's retired). He's neither victor nor loser, but a third party, as it were.
I think that was Leave grasping at straws, desperate for some totemic EU issue that would expose Ozzy as a vassal. But the man has triumphed yet again. I just hope those who doubted him don't make their apologies too grovelling.
A triumph in your view is "that @EU_Commission plans to make proposals this year"
Plans? Proposals? No actual change. No details of what the proposal is.
The Russians would be in Brussels before the EU ever decided to give an order to mobilise an EU Army. Half of Syria made it to Cologne and they weren't even armed.
Mr. Herdson, isn't an issue with Sanders that he'll be (effectively) the loser of the race, the supply teacher candidate? Biden would be stepping out of retirement (assuming he's retired). He's neither victor nor loser, but a third party, as it were.
Sanders will have over 1500 delegates, Biden 0. Sanders only has to persuade a handful of former Hillary delegates to switch to him to get a majority
Mr. Herdson, isn't an issue with Sanders that he'll be (effectively) the loser of the race, the supply teacher candidate? Biden would be stepping out of retirement (assuming he's retired). He's neither victor nor loser, but a third party, as it were.
He's close enough to Hillary that he can say that if she withdraws he is the winner. I mean, why not? There were three candidates and the other two dropped out, and it's not as though he's been a hapless bottom-feeder like O'Malley.
" Flatter the susceptible. Bully the weak – by which I mean those of your backbench colleagues who are desperate for a foot on the ladder (even if it happens to be a PPSship for a junior Minister at the Department of Transport) or for the next move up it. Pledge more money for marginal seats – and may I say that you have already surpassed Gordon in that regard? Promise quango appointments. Hint at peerages. Rope in civil servants. Above all, do not feel over-constrained by purdah."
"Don’t fire Patel, Mordaunt, Leadsom. Keep them where they are. You can always sack them later. Actually, on reflection, you may want to demote a few of the more isolated Leavers, and promote a few of the more biddable ones. Weigh down Gove with new garlands of responsibility – Cabinet committee chairmanships and the like. Hug him close and keep him busy."
"I’m New Labour till I die. But the future of our Party does not bode well, and you are re-shaping yours. From New Labour to the New Conservatives! I could, I think, imagine that. So perhaps could a few of my friends who still sit in the Commons. But this is all for further reflection and discussion. There’s a phrase for our partnership, isn’t there? Ever-closer union!"
" Flatter the susceptible. Bully the weak – by which I mean those of your backbench colleagues who are desperate for a foot on the ladder (even if it happens to be a PPSship for a junior Minister at the Department of Transport) or for the next move up it. Pledge more money for marginal seats – and may I say that you have already surpassed Gordon in that regard? Promise quango appointments. Hint at peerages. Rope in civil servants. Above all, do not feel over-constrained by purdah."
"Don’t fire Patel, Mordaunt, Leadsom. Keep them where they are. You can always sack them later. Actually, on reflection, you may want to demote a few of the more isolated Leavers, and promote a few of the more biddable ones. Weigh down Gove with new garlands of responsibility – Cabinet committee chairmanships and the like. Hug him close and keep him busy."
" Flatter the susceptible. Bully the weak – by which I mean those of your backbench colleagues who are desperate for a foot on the ladder (even if it happens to be a PPSship for a junior Minister at the Department of Transport) or for the next move up it. Pledge more money for marginal seats – and may I say that you have already surpassed Gordon in that regard? Promise quango appointments. Hint at peerages. Rope in civil servants. Above all, do not feel over-constrained by purdah."
"Don’t fire Patel, Mordaunt, Leadsom. Keep them where they are. You can always sack them later. Actually, on reflection, you may want to demote a few of the more isolated Leavers, and promote a few of the more biddable ones. Weigh down Gove with new garlands of responsibility – Cabinet committee chairmanships and the like. Hug him close and keep him busy."
" Flatter the susceptible. Bully the weak – by which I mean those of your backbench colleagues who are desperate for a foot on the ladder (even if it happens to be a PPSship for a junior Minister at the Department of Transport) or for the next move up it. Pledge more money for marginal seats – and may I say that you have already surpassed Gordon in that regard? Promise quango appointments. Hint at peerages. Rope in civil servants. Above all, do not feel over-constrained by purdah."
"Don’t fire Patel, Mordaunt, Leadsom. Keep them where they are. You can always sack them later. Actually, on reflection, you may want to demote a few of the more isolated Leavers, and promote a few of the more biddable ones. Weigh down Gove with new garlands of responsibility – Cabinet committee chairmanships and the like. Hug him close and keep him busy."
Jesus. Mandelson actually said that.
It was a comic take on what mandelson's advice probably was.
" Flatter the susceptible. Bully the weak – by which I mean those of your backbench colleagues who are desperate for a foot on the ladder (even if it happens to be a PPSship for a junior Minister at the Department of Transport) or for the next move up it. Pledge more money for marginal seats – and may I say that you have already surpassed Gordon in that regard? Promise quango appointments. Hint at peerages. Rope in civil servants. Above all, do not feel over-constrained by purdah."
"Don’t fire Patel, Mordaunt, Leadsom. Keep them where they are. You can always sack them later. Actually, on reflection, you may want to demote a few of the more isolated Leavers, and promote a few of the more biddable ones. Weigh down Gove with new garlands of responsibility – Cabinet committee chairmanships and the like. Hug him close and keep him busy."
Is Joe Biden patiently waiting in the wings for Hillary to falter?
He looks to be the obvious choice to become the Democratic candidate should her candidacy implode, which looks distinctly possible. Skybet offer the best odds on such an eventuality at 40/1. I'm on!
Sanders is now by far the 'obvious' candidate should Hillary fall (particularly should she fall before the final primaries), given how many delegates he already has. That said, Biden remains the obvious stop-Sanders reserve. 40/1? Depends on how likely you think it is that Hillary will have to withdraw. Personally, I'd want double that: 10/1 that Hillary withdraws x 5/1 that Biden defeats Sanders if she does.
Biden is very tempting until I remember his gaffe-prone primary campaigns when he got flattened by Bill Clinton, and then by Obama and Hillary. It was Biden who lifted Neil Kinnock's speech (the first Kinnock/Biden in a thousand generations). John Kerry or Al Gore would be more attractive but Sanders has the delegates now.
Pre GE I was at a fracking meeting with some Greenies, they said that solar panels on a small house only cost around £8k and that everyone should have them. I asked where they would get the £8k from. They live in cuckoo land.
My panels have been on my roof for 15 months and cost £6.500 and have returned nearly 10%. The installation is a huge success with inflation proved payments for 20 years and the return on capital compared to a savings account is a no brainer. However had the installation costs been borrowed it would not have been such a success
We are currently thinking of following our cousin on this. We have a large South-facing roof an electricity bill that averages about £250 a quarter and a son to inherit. If we do not move, which is the other plan we are still mulling over, then we probably will do so.
However, I am at a loss to understand why the building regulations have not been changed to make solar panels and heat exchangers compulsory on all new builds.
To be honest if you have the capital just do it as it will be a success and will improve your energy rating for your EPC, when and if you decide to sell, thereby improving the attraction of your home to buyers. I absolutely agree that they should be installed as part of building regs on all new build residential property
Oh my word - James Brokenshire is AWFUL on Sky talking about immigration. He looks really weird and spouting obvious bollocks.
Long thought of him as a sub standard minister, a bed blocker for better talent on the back benches and more junior ranks. Good news for LEAVE the more talk is on immigration.
IDS superb and punchy on Sky in response.
Things you never thought you'd hear...
IDS is an excellent media performer and is currently taking on Jacqui Smith on Daily Politics. Labour couldn't put up a Shadow Minister.
Oh my word - James Brokenshire is AWFUL on Sky talking about immigration. He looks really weird and spouting obvious bollocks.
Long thought of him as a sub standard minister, a bed blocker for better talent on the back benches and more junior ranks. Good news for LEAVE the more talk is on immigration.
IDS superb and punchy on Sky in response.
Things you never thought you'd hear...
IDS is an excellent media performer and is currently taking on Jacqui Smith on Daily Politics. Labour couldn't put up a Shadow Minister.
Mr. Herdson, isn't an issue with Sanders that he'll be (effectively) the loser of the race, the supply teacher candidate? Biden would be stepping out of retirement (assuming he's retired). He's neither victor nor loser, but a third party, as it were.
But a very narrow loser against a candidate with every institutional advantage. Even now, he's still winning primaries.
To keep him out, a great majority of Hillary's delegates would need to switch to Biden. Certainly, Biden would have made a very strong candidate (indeed, I suspect that he might well have have won had he entered) but he didn't and it's Sanders who proved himself in votes, delegates and states. Were he to be passed over in favour of another Washington insider, I can see Sanders' voters taking it very badly. They might well switch to Hillary in November - the woman who beat Sanders fair and square - but would they come out for a parachuted Biden in the same way? I wouldn't like to predict it.
" Flatter the susceptible. Bully the weak – by which I mean those of your backbench colleagues who are desperate for a foot on the ladder (even if it happens to be a PPSship for a junior Minister at the Department of Transport) or for the next move up it. Pledge more money for marginal seats – and may I say that you have already surpassed Gordon in that regard? Promise quango appointments. Hint at peerages. Rope in civil servants. Above all, do not feel over-constrained by purdah."
"Don’t fire Patel, Mordaunt, Leadsom. Keep them where they are. You can always sack them later. Actually, on reflection, you may want to demote a few of the more isolated Leavers, and promote a few of the more biddable ones. Weigh down Gove with new garlands of responsibility – Cabinet committee chairmanships and the like. Hug him close and keep him busy."
Jesus. Mandelson actually said that.
It was a comic take on what mandelson's advice probably was.
Mr. Herdson, would Sanders be a bigger challenge for Trump than Clinton?
And what odds would've been offered for a sentence like that a year ago?
No, I think that Hillary remains the bigger challenge. Commie Sanders' favourability rating would tank under Trump's unceasing fire. Hillary has largely gone light against him because she's always had the numbers. Trump would play dirty just for the fun of it.
That said, what an extraordinary race this has been - and there are more than five months still to go.
Oh my word - James Brokenshire is AWFUL on Sky talking about immigration. He looks really weird and spouting obvious bollocks.
Long thought of him as a sub standard minister, a bed blocker for better talent on the back benches and more junior ranks. Good news for LEAVE the more talk is on immigration.
IDS superb and punchy on Sky in response.
Things you never thought you'd hear...
IDS is an excellent media performer and is currently taking on Jacqui Smith on Daily Politics. Labour couldn't put up a Shadow Minister.
Smith was awful - all handwaving. I barely recognised her. Why was she on at all?
" Flatter the susceptible. Bully the weak – by which I mean those of your backbench colleagues who are desperate for a foot on the ladder (even if it happens to be a PPSship for a junior Minister at the Department of Transport) or for the next move up it. Pledge more money for marginal seats – and may I say that you have already surpassed Gordon in that regard? Promise quango appointments. Hint at peerages. Rope in civil servants. Above all, do not feel over-constrained by purdah."
"Don’t fire Patel, Mordaunt, Leadsom. Keep them where they are. You can always sack them later. Actually, on reflection, you may want to demote a few of the more isolated Leavers, and promote a few of the more biddable ones. Weigh down Gove with new garlands of responsibility – Cabinet committee chairmanships and the like. Hug him close and keep him busy."
Jesus. Mandelson actually said that.
It was a comic take on what mandelson's advice probably was.
I am an idiot.
No you are not. It was very very plausible and probably in line with what Mandelson has been saying, hence the damage being wreaked on the Conservative party.
I've mentioned before savvy EU migrants who come for just less than a year, then return home for a few weeks to reclaim their tax...
The number of migrants coming for between one and twelve months was 1.2 million in the year to the end of June 2014 which the ONS said was a “statistically significant” increase of 110,000 on the previous year.
I see we get this bollocks out again...anytime there is any talk of immigration clamp down and it is the end of the curry industry as we know it. As for lots of curry houses closing, I think that has more to do with the rapid over expansion and some dodgy goings on, than the fact a curry house can't get a chef.
Of course don't address the difficult question...the fact that unemployment among Bangleshi and Pakistani community is far higher than pretty much all other immigrant groups....what we need is more Romanians..
Oh my word - James Brokenshire is AWFUL on Sky talking about immigration. He looks really weird and spouting obvious bollocks.
Long thought of him as a sub standard minister, a bed blocker for better talent on the back benches and more junior ranks. Good news for LEAVE the more talk is on immigration.
IDS superb and punchy on Sky in response.
Things you never thought you'd hear...
IDS is an excellent media performer and is currently taking on Jacqui Smith on Daily Politics. Labour couldn't put up a Shadow Minister.
Smith was awful - all handwaving. I barely recognised her. Why was she on at all?
I wonder how many Labour voters would see it and what their reaction would be? Being positive, she has lost a little weight.
Expect the party's members and leaders to largely ignore it in favour of self-congratulation and impotent opposition.
Yes, I thought it was a lot better than Behr's normal wibblings about bad lefties. The only problem I saw was that it didn't seem to have any actual solutions. Believe it or not, most of the Corbyn supporting members also want to "reconnect with lost voters" as he puts it, and agree with him that denying the issues or adopting conservative policy aren't the answer. The leadership election was driven by a frustrated vote for the only candidate who was putting forward an alternative. It might not have been a good alternative, there may be big issues with the person putting it forward, but it wasn't as completely devoid of hope and direction as the other choices.
The question is, if immigration really is the key issue of this whole debate, how does Labour simultaneously sit as a pro-European party with (the right wing in particular) accepting that a commitment to technocratic steady-as-she-goes economics is essential for "economic credibility" and yet do something to address concerns about immigration? The key difference seems to be an electorate who will believe the Tories when they lie about controlling immigration, but not believe Labour when they try and lie about it. Is it about becoming more convincing liars, or actually doing something?
The first thing Labour needs is a leadership that will get it a hearing. It has not had one since around 2007. Ed Miliband and now Jeremy Corbyn as exemplars of everything that so many voters - even those who would consider themselves Labour-leaning - find so off-putting about the party: its remoteness from the real world and its lack of patriotism. Until Labour members begin to understand this Labour is going nowhere. It really does start at the top. My guess is that with a credible leadership, Labour could actually get away with a pretty left wing economic line.
I see we get this bollocks out again...anytime there is any talk of immigration clamp down and it is the end of the curry industry as we know it. As for lots of curry houses closing, I think that has more to do with the rapid over expansion and some dodgy goings on, than the fact a curry house can't get a chef.
Of course don't address the difficult question...the fact that unemployment among Bangleshi and Pakistani community is far higher than pretty much all other immigrant groups....what we need is more Romanians..
Well given that India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are not in the EU I don't see how Brexit would make the blindest bit of difference.
Oh my word - James Brokenshire is AWFUL on Sky talking about immigration. He looks really weird and spouting obvious bollocks.
Long thought of him as a sub standard minister, a bed blocker for better talent on the back benches and more junior ranks. Good news for LEAVE the more talk is on immigration.
IDS superb and punchy on Sky in response.
Things you never thought you'd hear...
IDS is an excellent media performer and is currently taking on Jacqui Smith on Daily Politics. Labour couldn't put up a Shadow Minister.
Smith was awful - all handwaving. I barely recognised her. Why was she on at all?
I wonder how many Labour voters would see it and what their reaction would be? Being positive, she has lost a little weight.
That haircut looks like a bad wig, and all over her face as if she was hiding her identity.
" Flatter the susceptible. Bully the weak – by which I mean those of your backbench colleagues who are desperate for a foot on the ladder (even if it happens to be a PPSship for a junior Minister at the Department of Transport) or for the next move up it. Pledge more money for marginal seats – and may I say that you have already surpassed Gordon in that regard? Promise quango appointments. Hint at peerages. Rope in civil servants. Above all, do not feel over-constrained by purdah."
"Don’t fire Patel, Mordaunt, Leadsom. Keep them where they are. You can always sack them later. Actually, on reflection, you may want to demote a few of the more isolated Leavers, and promote a few of the more biddable ones. Weigh down Gove with new garlands of responsibility – Cabinet committee chairmanships and the like. Hug him close and keep him busy."
Jesus. Mandelson actually said that.
It was a comic take on what mandelson's advice probably was.
I am an idiot.
No you are not. It was very very plausible and probably in line with what Mandelson has been saying, hence the damage being wreaked on the Conservative party.
I see we get this bollocks out again...anytime there is any talk of immigration clamp down and it is the end of the curry industry as we know it. As for lots of curry houses closing, I think that has more to do with the rapid over expansion and some dodgy goings on, than the fact a curry house can't get a chef.
Of course don't address the difficult question...the fact that unemployment among Bangleshi and Pakistani community is far higher than pretty much all other immigrant groups....what we need is more Romanians..
Well given that India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are not in the EU I don't see how Brexit would make the blindest bit of difference.
The ridiculous argument is that because government made it harder to import a Bangleshi, now curry houses use Romanians, so if we then leave the EU, we can't get Romanians, so that will screw over the curry house industry. The fact that a large percentage of men of Bangleshi and Pakistani heritage are unemployed always seems to be skirted around when it comes to the "Curry House Test" to immigration.
Also interesting that the Curry House industry lobby always claim they can't hire English workers because they don't speak the language of most of the kitchen staff, understand the cuisine etc, so they must import Bangleshi's Romanians...
Oh my word - James Brokenshire is AWFUL on Sky talking about immigration. He looks really weird and spouting obvious bollocks.
Long thought of him as a sub standard minister, a bed blocker for better talent on the back benches and more junior ranks. Good news for LEAVE the more talk is on immigration.
IDS superb and punchy on Sky in response.
Things you never thought you'd hear...
IDS is an excellent media performer and is currently taking on Jacqui Smith on Daily Politics. Labour couldn't put up a Shadow Minister.
Smith was awful - all handwaving. I barely recognised her. Why was she on at all?
I wonder how many Labour voters would see it and what their reaction would be? Being positive, she has lost a little weight.
That haircut looks like a bad wig, and all over her face as if she was hiding her identity.
There was I being nice about a REMAINer and a female...
" Flatter the susceptible. Bully the weak – by which I mean those of your backbench colleagues who are desperate for a foot on the ladder (even if it happens to be a PPSship for a junior Minister at the Department of Transport) or for the next move up it. Pledge more money for marginal seats – and may I say that you have already surpassed Gordon in that regard? Promise quango appointments. Hint at peerages. Rope in civil servants. Above all, do not feel over-constrained by purdah."
"Don’t fire Patel, Mordaunt, Leadsom. Keep them where they are. You can always sack them later. Actually, on reflection, you may want to demote a few of the more isolated Leavers, and promote a few of the more biddable ones. Weigh down Gove with new garlands of responsibility – Cabinet committee chairmanships and the like. Hug him close and keep him busy."
Jesus. Mandelson actually said that.
It was a comic take on what mandelson's advice probably was.
I am an idiot.
Don't worry, we'll make you feel right at home here
I've mentioned before savvy EU migrants who come for just less than a year, then return home for a few weeks to reclaim their tax...
The number of migrants coming for between one and twelve months was 1.2 million in the year to the end of June 2014 which the ONS said was a “statistically significant” increase of 110,000 on the previous year.
Under double taxation rules they would still pay tax on UK earnings:
I see we get this bollocks out again...anytime there is any talk of immigration clamp down and it is the end of the curry industry as we know it. As for lots of curry houses closing, I think that has more to do with the rapid over expansion and some dodgy goings on, than the fact a curry house can't get a chef.
Of course don't address the difficult question...the fact that unemployment among Bangleshi and Pakistani community is far higher than pretty much all other immigrant groups....what we need is more Romanians..
Well given that India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are not in the EU I don't see how Brexit would make the blindest bit of difference.
Actually, I would think that if the more extreme Leavers had their way tht particular situation would get much more difficult, not less.
Have BBC Daily Politics set up IDS by pushing him through 2 confrontation interviews with a fellow guest, one after the other?
Now the second opponent is Mrs Clegg.
Now have IDS's 3rd confrontation with a REMAINer. A tough time. All 3 of the REMAINers were female. Coincidence?
IDS has a 4th confrontation setup by the BBC. Its the Mayor of Salford (Labour) complaining about benefit sanctions.
Must rank as one of the most loaded shows against a person I have ever seen. Dissappointed with Andrew Neill being on this and going along with the producers.
Mr. HYUFD, not sure about Hammond. What's his plus point?
Mr. HYUFD (2)/Mr. Wanderer, ha, I like that on PB two completely opposing but reasonable-sounding posts can be made side-by-side.
Hammond is a Eurosceptic Remainer, Foreign Secretary and the Tories always pick the Chancellor or FS in power and he sounds like John Major who also came from nowhere. He could be Major to Boris' Heseltine
Mr. Herdson, would Sanders be a bigger challenge for Trump than Clinton?
And what odds would've been offered for a sentence like that a year ago?
No, I think that Hillary remains the bigger challenge. Commie Sanders' favourability rating would tank under Trump's unceasing fire. Hillary has largely gone light against him because she's always had the numbers. Trump would play dirty just for the fun of it.
That said, what an extraordinary race this has been - and there are more than five months still to go.
Sanders could hit Trump on his wealth and on inequality more than Hillary could, it would be a battle about who Americans hate more, billionaires and Wall Street or Mexican migrants, China and Islamic extremists
Have BBC Daily Politics set up IDS by pushing him through 2 confrontation interviews with a fellow guest, one after the other?
Now the second opponent is Mrs Clegg.
Now have IDS's 3rd confrontation with a REMAINer. A tough time. All 3 of the REMAINers were female. Coincidence?
IDS has a 4th confrontation setup by the BBC. Its the Mayor of Salford (Labour) complaining about benefit sanctions.
Must rank as one of the most loaded shows against a person I have ever seen. Dissappointed with Andrew Neill being on this and going along with the producers.
Sounds a bit like Newsnight where they had a panel of the public to listen to Hannan speak and I think 7 out of 8 declared for Remain. The panel make up was supposed to be demographically balanced, but it had no older voters and a majority non-white.
I see we get this bollocks out again...anytime there is any talk of immigration clamp down and it is the end of the curry industry as we know it. As for lots of curry houses closing, I think that has more to do with the rapid over expansion and some dodgy goings on, than the fact a curry house can't get a chef.
Of course don't address the difficult question...the fact that unemployment among Bangleshi and Pakistani community is far higher than pretty much all other immigrant groups....what we need is more Romanians..
Well given that India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are not in the EU I don't see how Brexit would make the blindest bit of difference.
The ridiculous argument is that because government made it harder to import a Bangleshi, now curry houses use Romanians, so if we then leave the EU, we can't get Romanians, so that will screw over the curry house industry. The fact that a large percentage of men of Bangleshi and Pakistani heritage are unemployed always seems to be skirted around when it comes to the "Curry House Test" to immigration.
Also interesting that the Curry House industry lobby always claim they can't hire English workers because they don't speak the language of most of the kitchen staff, understand the cuisine etc, so they must import Bangleshi's Romanians...
Making a curry isn't rocket science. Even I can do it.
If they're short of people, it's because they aren't paying wages sufficient to attract them.
Mr. HYUFD, I'd be surprised, given Hammond made sceptical noises then immediately came out for Remain. Disagreements can be forgiven more readily than turncoats.
I see we get this bollocks out again...anytime there is any talk of immigration clamp down and it is the end of the curry industry as we know it. As for lots of curry houses closing, I think that has more to do with the rapid over expansion and some dodgy goings on, than the fact a curry house can't get a chef.
Of course don't address the difficult question...the fact that unemployment among Bangleshi and Pakistani community is far higher than pretty much all other immigrant groups....what we need is more Romanians..
Well given that India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are not in the EU I don't see how Brexit would make the blindest bit of difference.
The ridiculous argument is that because government made it harder to import a Bangleshi, now curry houses use Romanians, so if we then leave the EU, we can't get Romanians, so that will screw over the curry house industry. The fact that a large percentage of men of Bangleshi and Pakistani heritage are unemployed always seems to be skirted around when it comes to the "Curry House Test" to immigration.
Also interesting that the Curry House industry lobby always claim they can't hire English workers because they don't speak the language of most of the kitchen staff, understand the cuisine etc, so they must import Bangleshi's Romanians...
Making a curry isn't rocket science. Even I can do it.
If they're short of people, it's because they aren't paying wages sufficient to attract them.
Its like claiming that the English can't cook French food....except if you go to somewhere like Le Manoir aux Quat'Saisons somehow they manage to find British people who can make the standard to work on the team. Henton Blumenthal wasn't up to the standard though, they cut him ;-)
If Leave loses, David Cameron can presumably use Boris Johnson's direct assault today on the government's immigration policy as a reason for excluding him from the Cabinet? After all, Boris Johnson will find it impossible to maintain collective Cabinet responsibility on this subject now.
Expect the party's members and leaders to largely ignore it in favour of self-congratulation and impotent opposition.
Yes, I thought it was a lot better than Behr's normal wibblings about bad lefties. The only problem I saw was that it didn't seem to have any actual solutions. Believe it or not, most of the Corbyn supporting members also want to "reconnect with lost voters" as he puts it, and agree with him that denying the issues or adopting conservative policy aren't the answer. The leadership election was driven by a frustrated vote for the only candidate who was putting forward an alternative. It might not have been a good alternative, there may be big issues with the person putting it forward, but it wasn't as completely devoid of hope and direction as the other choices.
The question is, if immigration really is the key issue of this whole debate, how does Labour simultaneously sit as a pro-European party with (the right wing in particular) accepting that a commitment to technocratic steady-as-she-goes economics is essential for "economic credibility" and yet do something to address concerns about immigration? The key difference seems to be an electorate who will believe the Tories when they lie about controlling immigration, but not believe Labour when they try and lie about it. Is it about becoming more convincing liars, or actually doing something?
The first thing Labour needs is a leadership that will get it a hearing. It has not had one since around 2007. Ed Miliband and now Jeremy Corbyn as exemplars of everything that so many voters - even those who would consider themselves Labour-leaning - find so off-putting about the party: its remoteness from the real world and its lack of patriotism. Until Labour members begin to understand this Labour is going nowhere. It really does start at the top. My guess is that with a credible leadership, Labour could actually get away with a pretty left wing economic line.
It's not that members don't understand that point, it's that no suitable candidates offered themselves for election. The PLP need to grasp the requirement for a leader who is worth listening to, and (to go back to Behr's article) who doesn't just panic and try and grab hold of Tory rhetoric. On the previous thread we discussed Owen Smith briefly, who might be a plausible candidate; also perhaps Keir Starmer.
If Leave loses, David Cameron can presumably use Boris Johnson's direct assault today on the government's immigration policy as a reason for excluding him from the Cabinet? After all, Boris Johnson will find it impossible to maintain collective Cabinet responsibility on this subject now.
Are we sure he doesn't want him in the Cabinet, i.e., to shut up?
If Leave loses, David Cameron can presumably use Boris Johnson's direct assault today on the government's immigration policy as a reason for excluding him from the Cabinet? After all, Boris Johnson will find it impossible to maintain collective Cabinet responsibility on this subject now.
A suitable reward for Boris would be to make him Europe Minister
If Leave loses, David Cameron can presumably use Boris Johnson's direct assault today on the government's immigration policy as a reason for excluding him from the Cabinet? After all, Boris Johnson will find it impossible to maintain collective Cabinet responsibility on this subject now.
A suitable reward for Boris would be to make him Europe Minister
If Leave loses, David Cameron can presumably use Boris Johnson's direct assault today on the government's immigration policy as a reason for excluding him from the Cabinet? After all, Boris Johnson will find it impossible to maintain collective Cabinet responsibility on this subject now.
The Tories will have to drop all the nonsense about controlling immigration. If Remain wins, Conservative becomes a pro-immigration party.
If Leave loses, David Cameron can presumably use Boris Johnson's direct assault today on the government's immigration policy as a reason for excluding him from the Cabinet? After all, Boris Johnson will find it impossible to maintain collective Cabinet responsibility on this subject now.
Dave's going to run out of MPs to appoint to cabinet at this rate.
He could start appointing MPs from parties he is politically closer too, perhaps. There are still a few lib dems about.
I see we get this bollocks out again...anytime there is any talk of immigration clamp down and it is the end of the curry industry as we know it. As for lots of curry houses closing, I think that has more to do with the rapid over expansion and some dodgy goings on, than the fact a curry house can't get a chef.
Of course don't address the difficult question...the fact that unemployment among Bangleshi and Pakistani community is far higher than pretty much all other immigrant groups....what we need is more Romanians..
I see we get this bollocks out again...anytime there is any talk of immigration clamp down and it is the end of the curry industry as we know it. As for lots of curry houses closing, I think that has more to do with the rapid over expansion and some dodgy goings on, than the fact a curry house can't get a chef.
Of course don't address the difficult question...the fact that unemployment among Bangleshi and Pakistani community is far higher than pretty much all other immigrant groups....what we need is more Romanians..
Well given that India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are not in the EU I don't see how Brexit would make the blindest bit of difference.
Oh my word - James Brokenshire is AWFUL on Sky talking about immigration. He looks really weird and spouting obvious bollocks.
Long thought of him as a sub standard minister, a bed blocker for better talent on the back benches and more junior ranks. Good news for LEAVE the more talk is on immigration.
IDS superb and punchy on Sky in response.
Things you never thought you'd hear...
IDS is an excellent media performer and is currently taking on Jacqui Smith on Daily Politics. Labour couldn't put up a Shadow Minister.
Smith was awful - all handwaving. I barely recognised her. Why was she on at all?
Oh my word - James Brokenshire is AWFUL on Sky talking about immigration. He looks really weird and spouting obvious bollocks.
Long thought of him as a sub standard minister, a bed blocker for better talent on the back benches and more junior ranks. Good news for LEAVE the more talk is on immigration.
IDS superb and punchy on Sky in response.
Things you never thought you'd hear...
IDS is an excellent media performer and is currently taking on Jacqui Smith on Daily Politics. Labour couldn't put up a Shadow Minister.
Smith was awful - all handwaving. I barely recognised her. Why was she on at all?
Given all the jobs Jacqui Spliff has these days, suprised she has time to do any tv work.
Arlene Foster: First Minister Martin McGuinness: Deputy First Minister
Simon Hamilton (DUP): minister for the economy; Peter Weir (DUP): minister for education; Paul Givan (DUP): minister for the department of communities; Michelle McIlveen (DUP): minister for agriculture, environment and rural affairs.
Claire Sulden (Ind Unionist): minister for justice;
Máirtín Ó Muilleoir (Sinn Fein): minister for finance; Michelle O'Neill (Sinn Fein): minister for health; Chris Hazard (Sinn Fein): minister for infrastructure.
I'm increasingly convinced there's a big Shy Leave vote.
For betters: be careful, or act accordingly. And before you decry me, I made a stack of cash correctly calling GE2015.
Why?
For similar reasons to why the pollsters, and politicalbetting.com, so ballsed up that election. Admitting you were going to vote Tory was sufficiently toxic for people either to lie or claim not to know. Admitting you're going to vote leave has been branded toxic by Cameron and the establishment. But when I listen to people I sense a similar mood to pre-GE2015. As I say, I made a wad back then and I think the Leave vote is being underestimated in the current polls. I could be wrong. As they say, past performance is no ...
I'm increasingly convinced there's a big Shy Leave vote.
For betters: be careful, or act accordingly. And before you decry me, I made a stack of cash correctly calling GE2015.
Why?
How about people who are pissed off with being branded RAAAAAAACCCCIIIISTTTT!!! if they offer an opinion, deciding just to STFU until they can cast their vote? Just a thought.
I'm increasingly convinced there's a big Shy Leave vote.
For betters: be careful, or act accordingly. And before you decry me, I made a stack of cash correctly calling GE2015.
Why?
How about people who are pissed off with being branded RAAAAAAACCCCIIIISTTTT!!! if they offer an opinion, deciding just to STFU until they can cast their vote? Just a thought.
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I'm making my final donation tomorrow, when I get paid.
Plans? Proposals?
No actual change. No details of what the proposal is.
How hard can it be ? Honestly?
The Russians would be in Brussels before the EU ever decided to give an order to mobilise an EU Army. Half of Syria made it to Cologne and they weren't even armed.
What an utterly useless organisation.
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/05/how-you-can-still-be-prime-minister-george-a-letter-from-mandelson-to-osborne.html
"Don’t fire Patel, Mordaunt, Leadsom. Keep them where they are. You can always sack them later. Actually, on reflection, you may want to demote a few of the more isolated Leavers, and promote a few of the more biddable ones. Weigh down Gove with new garlands of responsibility – Cabinet committee chairmanships and the like. Hug him close and keep him busy."
"I’m New Labour till I die. But the future of our Party does not bode well, and you are re-shaping yours. From New Labour to the New Conservatives! I could, I think, imagine that. So perhaps could a few of my friends who still sit in the Commons. But this is all for further reflection and discussion. There’s a phrase for our partnership, isn’t there? Ever-closer union!"
Jesus. Mandelson actually said that.
Mr. HYUFD (2)/Mr. Wanderer, ha, I like that on PB two completely opposing but reasonable-sounding posts can be made side-by-side.
Pre GE I was at a fracking meeting with some Greenies, they said that solar panels on a small house only cost around £8k and that everyone should have them. I asked where they would get the £8k from. They live in cuckoo land.
My panels have been on my roof for 15 months and cost £6.500 and have returned nearly 10%. The installation is a huge success with inflation proved payments for 20 years and the return on capital compared to a savings account is a no brainer. However had the installation costs been borrowed it would not have been such a success
We are currently thinking of following our cousin on this. We have a large South-facing roof an electricity bill that averages about £250 a quarter and a son to inherit. If we do not move, which is the other plan we are still mulling over, then we probably will do so.
However, I am at a loss to understand why the building regulations have not been changed to make solar panels and heat exchangers compulsory on all new builds.
To be honest if you have the capital just do it as it will be a success and will improve your energy rating for your EPC, when and if you decide to sell, thereby improving the attraction of your home to buyers. I absolutely agree that they should be installed as part of building regs on all new build residential property
I thought that there were government loans at one stage, but now there's just the feed in tariff, which has been cut but is still worthwhile.
http://www.theecoexperts.co.uk/government-grants-installing-solar-panels
As well as the FIT payment you also save on electricity
To keep him out, a great majority of Hillary's delegates would need to switch to Biden. Certainly, Biden would have made a very strong candidate (indeed, I suspect that he might well have have won had he entered) but he didn't and it's Sanders who proved himself in votes, delegates and states. Were he to be passed over in favour of another Washington insider, I can see Sanders' voters taking it very badly. They might well switch to Hillary in November - the woman who beat Sanders fair and square - but would they come out for a parachuted Biden in the same way? I wouldn't like to predict it.
And what odds would've been offered for a sentence like that a year ago?
Now the second opponent is Mrs Clegg.
That said, what an extraordinary race this has been - and there are more than five months still to go.
The number of migrants coming for between one and twelve months was 1.2 million in the year to the end of June 2014 which the ONS said was a “statistically significant” increase of 110,000 on the previous year.
I'll comfort myself with the fact that's probably very close to what will have been said in private ;-)
Who will cook your Indian curry?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36378655
Of course don't address the difficult question...the fact that unemployment among Bangleshi and Pakistani community is far higher than pretty much all other immigrant groups....what we need is more Romanians..
A tough time. All 3 of the REMAINers were female. Coincidence?
Also interesting that the Curry House industry lobby always claim they can't hire English workers because they don't speak the language of most of the kitchen staff, understand the cuisine etc, so they must import
Bangleshi'sRomanians...The line between Reality and Parody is very thin at the moment.
https://www.gov.uk/tax-foreign-income/overview
These are probaly seasonal and short term workers, returning home for winter. We get a number of Greek doctors doing the same.
Must rank as one of the most loaded shows against a person I have ever seen. Dissappointed with Andrew Neill being on this and going along with the producers.
If they're short of people, it's because they aren't paying wages sufficient to attract them.
He could start appointing MPs from parties he is politically closer too, perhaps. There are still a few lib dems about.
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/735804620279283712
For betters: be careful, or act accordingly. And before you decry me, I made a stack of cash correctly calling GE2015.
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(I'll get me coat)
Yes that's a decent theory
Arlene Foster: First Minister
Martin McGuinness: Deputy First Minister
Simon Hamilton (DUP): minister for the economy;
Peter Weir (DUP): minister for education;
Paul Givan (DUP): minister for the department of communities;
Michelle McIlveen (DUP): minister for agriculture, environment and rural affairs.
Claire Sulden (Ind Unionist): minister for justice;
Máirtín Ó Muilleoir (Sinn Fein): minister for finance;
Michelle O'Neill (Sinn Fein): minister for health;
Chris Hazard (Sinn Fein): minister for infrastructure.