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I’m off to London this after to record the first PB/Polling Matters TV Show in our new studios near Victoria. Keiran Pedley and I will, no doubt, spend a lot of time discussing the polling and trying to make sense of it.
@faisalislam: WTO boss: "pretty much all" UK global trade has to be negotiated post Brexit. Brits "will have to pay" £9bn tariffs: https://t.co/bdhF0cxE6u
@faisalislam: WTO boss: "pretty much all" UK global trade has to be negotiated post Brexit. Brits "will have to pay" £9bn tariffs: https://t.co/bdhF0cxE6u
Poor Roberto Azevêdo, does he know the opprobrium he's letting himself in for from the Leavers.
That said, sales of tinfoil are going to go through the roof.
Alex Wickham BOOM. Eddie Izzard's election hotel bills declared as national spend despite clearly being part of local campaign: https://t.co/ey1FEsYSbD
I mean, if this is about the difference between undecideds and certains might it be possible to match the header and blurb to the graphic? Just a thought.
Europhiles seem to favour protectionist and nanny state policies. Mandatory quotas on what the likes of Netflix have to show will not drive up standards.
If you want to watch trendy Scandinavian noir there is nothing stopping you from buying a DVD or signing up to a streaming service that does offer it.
It doesn't seem to have occurred to them that people are actually choosing to pay for the likes of Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Now TV, and those viewers can drop a service at will if they aren't happy. If there was a substantial demand for European produced TV shows somebody would likely provide it at a low cost, you certainly wouldn't need to set a quota if it was something we really wanted, companies would be fighting for the rights.
Mike's talking about the repercentaged figures when DKs have been excluded.
Yes, sorry, misread that. What are the comparatives in brackets against, though? Presumably it's an unlisted previous Survation.
I see this as 53.66 - 46.34 = 7.32 which correctly rounds to 7 though (creates an error to round at headline stage then calculate the difference). The predecessor looks like 54.22 - 45.78 giving a remain lead of 8.44.
To round off the objectless pedantry, excluding DKs, that means Remain lost 13.27% of its lead between those two polls.
I would much rather have a diet of Scandanavian Noir, Spanish Cinema and even German comedy to the cast offs of middle american pap. I don't mind a bit of that stuff but I do want variety.
Too often we get the choice of dozens of identical programmes with only an illusion of choice.
If people actually wanted to "have a diet of Scandanavian Noir, Spanish Cinema and even German comedy" the likes of Netflix would provide it. Netflix would have no trouble licensing such "entertainment" and can easily afford to do so.
Netflix unlike the European Commission has a huge amount of data, maybe more than any other organisation on Earth, which reveals what people really want to watch. They take that data and use it to select the programmes they license and produce. Apparently the European Commission thinks it knows Netflix's customers better than Netflix, I doubt that they are correct.
Netflix also carry a lot of content because it's cheap, and don't carry a lot because it's expensive/exclusive. Some of their crap stuff is watched because it's there and presumably most of their data about what people "want" to watch is actually what people choose to watch from the limited selection available on Netflix.
If you locked hungry people in KFC for a week, the consumption data wouldn't prove that fried chicken was what they really wanted to eat.
Europhiles seem to favour protectionist and nanny state policies. Mandatory quotas on what the likes of Netflix have to show will not drive up standards.
If you want to watch trendy Scandinavian noir there is nothing stopping you from buying a DVD or signing up to a streaming service that does offer it.
If there was a substantial demand for European produced TV shows somebody would likely provide it at a low cost....
Europhiles seem to favour protectionist and nanny state policies. Mandatory quotas on what the likes of Netflix have to show will not drive up standards.
If you want to watch trendy Scandinavian noir there is nothing stopping you from buying a DVD or signing up to a streaming service that does offer it.
If there was a substantial demand for European produced TV shows somebody would likely provide it at a low cost....
Walter Presents. Some cracking stuff on there.
Indeed, and a much better way of promoting such shows than by setting a quota.
The Director General of the WTO will be coming to London in early June and explain why Brexit is bad for the UK.
If Remain was really confident of a win, they wouldn't keep asking for help from outsiders.
But what does the DG of the World Trade Organisation know about World Trade.
Yep, the people at the top of these international quangos are always to be trusted. I mean, just look at Christine Lagarde. Oh wait.
The heads of international bodies - whether the IMF or the World Bank or the WTO - desire stability. That's where their interest lies, and anything which threatens to destabilise is to be discouraged.
They do not have the interests of the British people in mind. But that does not make them stooges of Remain or David Cameron. It makes them people who have their own interests and who promote those interests relentlessly; as they should, as it is their job to do so.
Netflix also carry a lot of content because it's cheap, and don't carry a lot because it's expensive/exclusive. Some of their crap stuff is watched because it's there and presumably most of their data about what people "want" to watch is actually what people choose to watch from the limited selection available on Netflix.
If you locked hungry people in KFC for a week, the consumption data wouldn't prove that fried chicken was what they really wanted to eat.
I think that's a bogus argument. If you aren't happy with Netflix you can simply cancel it. There are many other TV and film streaming services to choose from, as well as conventional broadcasting, and DVDs etc.
Netflix is enormously popular, particularly in the US, with higher satisfaction scores than other rivals and broadcasters, and ever increasing viewing figures. Maybe they are actually doing a good job, and giving people what they want for a fair price, and I find it utterly implausible that anyone else can do a better job of figuring out what programming they should be buying or making.
The Director General of the WTO will be coming to London in early June and explain why Brexit is bad for the UK.
If Remain was really confident of a win, they wouldn't keep asking for help from outsiders.
But what does the DG of the World Trade Organisation know about World Trade.
Yep, the people at the top of these international quangos are always to be trusted. I mean, just look at Christine Lagarde. Oh wait.
As an aside, why would you think that Lagarde is personally untrustworthy? I know several people that have worked with her, and all - irrespective of their political views - hold her in high regard. (Certainly compared to other French politicians and functionaries they've worked with.)
I understand that the case for saying the online polls overstate Leave is that Leavers are more politically engaged and probably older/retired so have more time to answer online surveys. This (allegedly) means they are likely to respond more quickly than Remainers and because online polling systems stop accepting responses from the various defined groups of voters when sampling quotas have been filled if the split of Leave/Remain amongst quick responders is not the same as the population as a whole the result of the poll will be unrepresentative.
This theory seems to have some logic to it - and clearly the punters and bookies believe it - but what is the counter-argument against phone polling? If we accept the online polls are right the phone polls must exaggerate Remain so why would Remainers be more likely to respond to phone calls than Leavers?
I would much rather have a diet of Scandanavian Noir, Spanish Cinema and even German comedy to the cast offs of middle american pap. I don't mind a bit of that stuff but I do want variety.
Too often we get the choice of dozens of identical programmes with only an illusion of choice.
If people actually wanted to "have a diet of Scandanavian Noir, Spanish Cinema and even German comedy" the likes of Netflix would provide it. Netflix would have no trouble licensing such "entertainment" and can easily afford to do so.
Netflix unlike the European Commission has a huge amount of data, maybe more than any other organisation on Earth, which reveals what people really want to watch. They take that data and use it to select the programmes they license and produce. Apparently the European Commission thinks it knows Netflix's customers better than Netflix, I doubt that they are correct.
Netflix also carry a lot of content because it's cheap, and don't carry a lot because it's expensive/exclusive. Some of their crap stuff is watched because it's there and presumably most of their data about what people "want" to watch is actually what people choose to watch from the limited selection available on Netflix.
If you locked hungry people in KFC for a week, the consumption data wouldn't prove that fried chicken was what they really wanted to eat.
If people should be allowed to watch what they want on Netflix, why shouldn't they be allowed to employ who they like?
@faisalislam: WTO boss: "pretty much all" UK global trade has to be negotiated post Brexit. Brits "will have to pay" £9bn tariffs: https://t.co/bdhF0cxE6u
Poor Roberto Azevêdo, does he know the opprobrium he's letting himself in for from the Leavers.
That said, sales of tinfoil are going to go through the roof.
However did all the states that have become independent since 1989 manage to avoid utter ruin.
@faisalislam: WTO boss: "pretty much all" UK global trade has to be negotiated post Brexit. Brits "will have to pay" £9bn tariffs: https://t.co/bdhF0cxE6u
Poor Roberto Azevêdo, does he know the opprobrium he's letting himself in for from the Leavers.
That said, sales of tinfoil are going to go through the roof.
However did all the states that have become independent since 1989 manage to avoid utter ruin.
REMAINERs don't want Britain to be an independent sovereign nation.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
So long as the UK has three power to unilaterally leave the EU via the repeal of the European Communities Act, it is sovereign. I don't see that changing, even if we do vote to Remain.
Europhiles seem to favour protectionist and nanny state policies. Mandatory quotas on what the likes of Netflix have to show will not drive up standards.
If you want to watch trendy Scandinavian noir there is nothing stopping you from buying a DVD or signing up to a streaming service that does offer it.
If there was a substantial demand for European produced TV shows somebody would likely provide it at a low cost....
Walter Presents. Some cracking stuff on there.
There is indeed. Deutschland 83 was a great glimpse of some of the excellent series that are not high enough profile.
REMAINERs don't want Britain to be an independent sovereign nation.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
So long as the UK has three power to unilaterally leave the EU via the repeal of the European Communities Act, it is sovereign. I don't see that changing, even if we do vote to Remain.
Indeed, it's an argument I can't understand. If we weren't sovereign, we wouldn't be having this referendum.
@faisalislam: WTO boss: "pretty much all" UK global trade has to be negotiated post Brexit. Brits "will have to pay" £9bn tariffs: https://t.co/bdhF0cxE6u
No sh1t, Sherlock.
UK leaves a free trade bloc and has to negotiate new trade agreements into order to avoid WTO 2% tariffs, ignoring a depreciated pound.
How does this guy know how much tariff we will pay? The deals haven't been negotiated yet. He also seems to have forgotten that Britain has a thumping great trade deficit and so should GAIN from tariffs, if we want to.
I think the lesson we should draw is that Civil Servants don't like extra work foisted upon them.
Perhaps they should be reminded they serve us, not the other way round.
REMAINERs don't want Britain to be an independent sovereign nation.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
So long as the UK has three power to unilaterally leave the EU via the repeal of the European Communities Act, it is sovereign. I don't see that changing, even if we do vote to Remain.
Forgive me if I don;t take that as a guarantee of centuries of rights, regularly bought in blood.
Still, your words will be a comfort when I have to rot in a foreign jail for months for non-payment of euro taxes.
REMAINERs don't want Britain to be an independent sovereign nation.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
So long as the UK has three power to unilaterally leave the EU via the repeal of the European Communities Act, it is sovereign. I don't see that changing, even if we do vote to Remain.
Indeed, it's an argument I can't understand. If we weren't sovereign, we wouldn't be having this referendum.
We are sovereign for the moment, TSE. LEAVING is the best way to ensure we retain that sovereignty for our children and their children.
Alex Wickham BOOM. Eddie Izzard's election hotel bills declared as national spend despite clearly being part of local campaign: https://t.co/ey1FEsYSbD
So, as casual with expenses as with Antisemitism :-)
"If Remain wins, it's clear the UK just can't get enough of the EU."
Mr Eagles. I agree. If Remain win, then Remainers should support further integration because it's what they are voting for.
That's where it varies from the Scottish Referendum. Winning meant a little more devolution.
Remain winning means less independence, a rump Parliament, a common currency, a European army, and a European defence policy. There's no pretence, but they just don't say it out loud.
The Director General of the WTO will be coming to London in early June and explain why Brexit is bad for the UK.
If Remain was really confident of a win, they wouldn't keep asking for help from outsiders.
But what does the DG of the World Trade Organisation know about World Trade.
Yep, the people at the top of these international quangos are always to be trusted. I mean, just look at Christine Lagarde. Oh wait.
The heads of international bodies - whether the IMF or the World Bank or the WTO - desire stability. That's where their interest lies, and anything which threatens to destabilise is to be discouraged.
They do not have the interests of the British people in mind. But that does not make them stooges of Remain or David Cameron. It makes them people who have their own interests and who promote those interests relentlessly; as they should, as it is their job to do so.
I disagree that they do not have the best interests of the British people in mind. It's just that you do not agree with their assessment. They think that stability is currently in the UK's best interests, as someone who (I think) is very interested in disruption as a means to grow and create opportunity, you probably don't.
I'd say a strong - though tangential - reason for sticking with the status quo is the damage that Brexit could do to what looks like it may be the stirrings of a nascent recovery in many parts of Europe. The last thing anyone wants now, surely, is a period of uncertainty and anything that knocks business and investor confidence. Should there be a negative market reaction to Brexit - and at the very least that is not out of the question - then it will have an impact across the EU. And that is something that will be very bad news for us too.
REMAINERs don't want Britain to be an independent sovereign nation.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
So long as the UK has three power to unilaterally leave the EU via the repeal of the European Communities Act, it is sovereign. I don't see that changing, even if we do vote to Remain.
Indeed, it's an argument I can't understand. If we weren't sovereign, we wouldn't be having this referendum.
We are sovereign for the moment, TSE. LEAVING is the best way to ensure we retain that sovereignty for our children and their children.
Believe in BRITAIN!
Be LEAVE!
If we Remain, we can Leave in the future, we can declare war on the French if we need to, we can fire our nukes at French.
REMAINERs don't want Britain to be an independent sovereign nation.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
So long as the UK has three power to unilaterally leave the EU via the repeal of the European Communities Act, it is sovereign. I don't see that changing, even if we do vote to Remain.
Indeed, it's an argument I can't understand. If we weren't sovereign, we wouldn't be having this referendum.
We are sovereign for the moment, TSE. LEAVING is the best way to ensure we retain that sovereignty for our children and their children.
Believe in BRITAIN!
Be LEAVE!
If we Remain, we can Leave in the future, we can declare war on the French if we need to, we can fire our nukes at French.
All signs of a sovereign nation.
Yebbut why LEAVE in the future when we can get out now?
"If Remain wins, it's clear the UK just can't get enough of the EU."
Mr Eagles. I agree. If Remain win, then Remainers should support further integration because it's what they are voting for.
That's where it varies from the Scottish Referendum. Winning meant a little more devolution.
Remain winning means less independence, a rump Parliament, a common currency, a European army, and a European defence policy. There's no pretence, but they just don't say it out loud.
Well done for your honesty.
You're reading too much into my very subtle pop music references.
REMAINERs don't want Britain to be an independent sovereign nation.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
So long as the UK has three power to unilaterally leave the EU via the repeal of the European Communities Act, it is sovereign. I don't see that changing, even if we do vote to Remain.
Indeed, it's an argument I can't understand. If we weren't sovereign, we wouldn't be having this referendum.
We are sovereign for the moment, TSE. LEAVING is the best way to ensure we retain that sovereignty for our children and their children.
Believe in BRITAIN!
Be LEAVE!
If we Remain, we can Leave in the future, we can declare war on the French if we need to, we can fire our nukes at French.
All signs of a sovereign nation.
Yebbut why LEAVE in the future when we can get out now?
BTW won't the French use their nukes against us?
No, there's a reason why the French are known as Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys.
REMAINERs don't want Britain to be an independent sovereign nation.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
So long as the UK has three power to unilaterally leave the EU via the repeal of the European Communities Act, it is sovereign. I don't see that changing, even if we do vote to Remain.
Forgive me if I don;t take that as a guarantee of centuries of rights, regularly bought in blood.
Still, your words will be a comfort when I have to rot in a foreign jail for months for non-payment of euro taxes.
You can spend months in a foreign jail for the non payment of US taxes today, if you haven't correctly accounted for services delivered to a US company from a UK company.
General Rose's comments on how EU law restricts UK combat effectiveness are devastating and expose Remain's outrageous lies about us being 'safer' in the EU.
Donald Trump signed off on a controversial business deal that was designed to deprive the US Government of tens of millions of dollars in tax, the Telegraph can disclose.
The billionaire approved a $50 million investment in a company – only for the deal to be rewritten several weeks later as a ‘loan’.
Experts say that the effect of this move was to skirt vast tax liabilities, and court papers seen by the Telegraph allege that the deal amounted to fraud.
Independent tax accountants and lawyers said that the documents Mr Trump signed – copies of which were obtained by this newspaper as part of a three-month investigation - contained “red flags” indicating the deal was irregular.
But the Republican presumptive presidential nominee signed nonetheless.
REMAINERs don't want Britain to be an independent sovereign nation.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
So long as the UK has three power to unilaterally leave the EU via the repeal of the European Communities Act, it is sovereign. I don't see that changing, even if we do vote to Remain.
Forgive me if I don;t take that as a guarantee of centuries of rights, regularly bought in blood.
Still, your words will be a comfort when I have to rot in a foreign jail for months for non-payment of euro taxes.
You can spend months in a foreign jail for the non payment of US taxes today, if you haven't correctly accounted for services delivered to a US company from a UK company.
Without an extradition hearing at a UK court? Are you sure about that?
So we've had Lagarde, Obama, Brown, Blair, Cameron, Osborne, the IMF, the OECD, the IFS, NIESR, no doubt B and Q, MFI, TGIF, C and A and every other acronym telling us how awful it will all be.
I wonder if they will be stupid enough to roll out Merkel and Hollande to try it as well.
And still....only 21% of people believe they will be personally worse off if we leave the EU.
"If Remain wins, it's clear the UK just can't get enough of the EU."
Mr Eagles. I agree. If Remain win, then Remainers should support further integration because it's what they are voting for.
That's where it varies from the Scottish Referendum. Winning meant a little more devolution.
Remain winning means less independence, a rump Parliament, a common currency, a European army, and a European defence policy. There's no pretence, but they just don't say it out loud.
Well done for your honesty.
You're reading too much into my very subtle pop music references.
If we stay in the EU, we'll be staring down the Barrel Of A Gun.
REMAINERs don't want Britain to be an independent sovereign nation.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
So long as the UK has three power to unilaterally leave the EU via the repeal of the European Communities Act, it is sovereign. I don't see that changing, even if we do vote to Remain.
Forgive me if I don;t take that as a guarantee of centuries of rights, regularly bought in blood.
Still, your words will be a comfort when I have to rot in a foreign jail for months for non-payment of euro taxes.
You can spend months in a foreign jail for the non payment of US taxes today, if you haven't correctly accounted for services delivered to a US company from a UK company.
Without an extradition hearing at a UK court? Are you sure about that?
You do need to be extradited. But the extradition treaty we've signed with the US is so broad as regards US tax evasion, and the subject matter so complex, that your extradition is a virtual inevitability.
REMAINERs don't want Britain to be an independent sovereign nation.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
So long as the UK has three power to unilaterally leave the EU via the repeal of the European Communities Act, it is sovereign. I don't see that changing, even if we do vote to Remain.
Indeed, it's an argument I can't understand. If we weren't sovereign, we wouldn't be having this referendum.
We are sovereign for the moment, TSE. LEAVING is the best way to ensure we retain that sovereignty for our children and their children.
Believe in BRITAIN!
Be LEAVE!
If we Remain, we can Leave in the future, we can declare war on the French if we need to, we can fire our nukes at French.
All signs of a sovereign nation.
Yebbut why LEAVE in the future when we can get out now?
BTW won't the French use their nukes against us?
No, there's a reason why the French are known as Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys.
Netflix also carry a lot of content because it's cheap, and don't carry a lot because it's expensive/exclusive. Some of their crap stuff is watched because it's there and presumably most of their data about what people "want" to watch is actually what people choose to watch from the limited selection available on Netflix.
If you locked hungry people in KFC for a week, the consumption data wouldn't prove that fried chicken was what they really wanted to eat.
I think that's a bogus argument. If you aren't happy with Netflix you can simply cancel it. There are many other TV and film streaming services to choose from, as well as conventional broadcasting, and DVDs etc.
Netflix is enormously popular, particularly in the US, with higher satisfaction scores than other rivals and broadcasters, and ever increasing viewing figures. Maybe they are actually doing a good job, and giving people what they want for a fair price, and I find it utterly implausible that anyone else can do a better job of figuring out what programming they should be buying or making.
To be fair, US Netflix is a fair bit better than UK Netflix. Overall I find it worth the price but it's frustrating how many streaming services you need to patch together to get the stuff you want. I'm just not convinced that the absence of certain things reflects the lack of demand, more that Netflix do enough to keep subscribers despite those absences. I'd happily pay 2-3 times more for a single comprehensive provider.
@jimwaterson: East 17 pull out Brexit the music festival. We need to save this event and make sure it goes ahead, for the sake of journalists everywhere.
@jimwaterson: East 17 pull out Brexit the music festival. We need to save this event and make sure it goes ahead, for the sake of journalists everywhere.
"You're reading too much into my very subtle pop music references."
Like this young American group ...
"You can check out any time you like, But you can never leave."
The Establishment didn't even try to be impartial in 1975, but they're made some effort this time. Not totally successfully though. But leaving? If Remain wins, you can kiss goodbye to any more Referenda - this has been too tight for comfort.
REMAINERs don't want Britain to be an independent sovereign nation.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
So long as the UK has three power to unilaterally leave the EU via the repeal of the European Communities Act, it is sovereign. I don't see that changing, even if we do vote to Remain.
Forgive me if I don;t take that as a guarantee of centuries of rights, regularly bought in blood.
Still, your words will be a comfort when I have to rot in a foreign jail for months for non-payment of euro taxes.
You can spend months in a foreign jail for the non payment of US taxes today, if you haven't correctly accounted for services delivered to a US company from a UK company.
Without an extradition hearing at a UK court? Are you sure about that?
You do need to be extradited. But the extradition treaty we've signed with the US is so broad as regards US tax evasion, and the subject matter so complex, that your extradition is a virtual inevitability.
OK but that's a pretty narrow field.
Any EU state can summarily issue a warrant for your arrest and stick you in jail for months, for anything, without trial. Even something that's not a crime here.
Netflix also carry a lot of content because it's cheap, and don't carry a lot because it's expensive/exclusive. Some of their crap stuff is watched because it's there and presumably most of their data about what people "want" to watch is actually what people choose to watch from the limited selection available on Netflix.
If you locked hungry people in KFC for a week, the consumption data wouldn't prove that fried chicken was what they really wanted to eat.
I think that's a bogus argument. If you aren't happy with Netflix you can simply cancel it. There are many other TV and film streaming services to choose from, as well as conventional broadcasting, and DVDs etc.
Netflix is enormously popular, particularly in the US, with higher satisfaction scores than other rivals and broadcasters, and ever increasing viewing figures. Maybe they are actually doing a good job, and giving people what they want for a fair price, and I find it utterly implausible that anyone else can do a better job of figuring out what programming they should be buying or making.
To be fair, US Netflix is a fair bit better than UK Netflix. Overall I find it worth the price but it's frustrating how many streaming services you need to patch together to get the stuff you want. I'm just not convinced that the absence of certain things reflects the lack of demand, more that Netflix do enough to keep subscribers despite those absences. I'd happily pay 2-3 times more for a single comprehensive provider.
Fox jr prefers Canadian Netfix as having greater variety, its really quite easy to do.
Och aye tha noo, my fellow independence supporters.
Mr. P, I actually feel some sympathy for the 'Brexit' music organisers. It's not their fault moronic musicians signed up without realising that 'Brexit' was a reference to the UK leaving the EU.
The Director General of the WTO will be coming to London in early June and explain why Brexit is bad for the UK.
If Remain was really confident of a win, they wouldn't keep asking for help from outsiders.
But what does the DG of the World Trade Organisation know about World Trade.
Yep, the people at the top of these international quangos are always to be trusted. I mean, just look at Christine Lagarde. Oh wait.
As an aside, why would you think that Lagarde is personally untrustworthy? I know several people that have worked with her, and all - irrespective of their political views - hold her in high regard. (Certainly compared to other French politicians and functionaries they've worked with.)
The more I read during this campaign the more leave remind me of a dog chasing cars. Absolutely desperate to catch one but absolutely no idea what to do with it. Year's of whining about a referendum then not a single idea about how to win it, when they get one.
The more I read during this campaign the more leave remind me of a dog chasing cars. Absolutely desperate to catch one but absolutely no idea what to do with it. Year's of whining about a referendum then not a single idea about how to win it, when they get one.
LEAVE'S campaign has left a lot to be desired... But given the weight of the entire UK and world order that's been thrown at it I'm surprised it's holding up as well as it is TBH.
I understand that the case for saying the online polls overstate Leave is that Leavers are more politically engaged and probably older/retired so have more time to answer online surveys. This (allegedly) means they are likely to respond more quickly than Remainers and because online polling systems stop accepting responses from the various defined groups of voters when sampling quotas have been filled if the split of Leave/Remain amongst quick responders is not the same as the population as a whole the result of the poll will be unrepresentative.
This theory seems to have some logic to it - and clearly the punters and bookies believe it - but what is the counter-argument against phone polling? If we accept the online polls are right the phone polls must exaggerate Remain so why would Remainers be more likely to respond to phone calls than Leavers?
Martin Boon thinks that telephone polls pick up too many left wing voters; Yougov think they pick up too many graduates. Both of these might skew the findings in favour of Remain.
Mr. Gin, I concur with your assessment of the campaigns and the support of Leave being oddly resilient. Perhaps that's indicative of how horrendous the EU is.
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That said, sales of tinfoil are going to go through the roof.
Mike's talking about the repercentaged figures when DKs have been excluded.
BOOM. Eddie Izzard's election hotel bills declared as national spend despite clearly being part of local campaign: https://t.co/ey1FEsYSbD
If Remain was really confident of a win, they wouldn't keep asking for help from outsiders.
I mean, if this is about the difference between undecideds and certains might it be possible to match the header and blurb to the graphic? Just a thought.
Naught but REMAIN scaremongering!
But what does the DG of the World Trade Organisation know about World Trade.
Is he off to France to lecture them on that?
I see this as 53.66 - 46.34 = 7.32 which correctly rounds to 7 though (creates an error to round at headline stage then calculate the difference). The predecessor looks like 54.22 - 45.78 giving a remain lead of 8.44.
To round off the objectless pedantry, excluding DKs, that means Remain lost 13.27% of its lead between those two polls.
If you locked hungry people in KFC for a week, the consumption data wouldn't prove that fried chicken was what they really wanted to eat.
@sunny_hundal: Just spoke to Sister Sledge's US rep. Sal Michaels: he confirms they've pulled out of the Brexit concert https://t.co/iZPYQfHtyH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVu6Wihbp4Q
They do not have the interests of the British people in mind. But that does not make them stooges of Remain or David Cameron. It makes them people who have their own interests and who promote those interests relentlessly; as they should, as it is their job to do so.
I don't wanna play any more
What can I say?
I'm heading for the door
I can't stand this emotional violence
LEAVE IN SILENCE
Netflix is enormously popular, particularly in the US, with higher satisfaction scores than other rivals and broadcasters, and ever increasing viewing figures. Maybe they are actually doing a good job, and giving people what they want for a fair price, and I find it utterly implausible that anyone else can do a better job of figuring out what programming they should be buying or making.
I understand that the case for saying the online polls overstate Leave is that Leavers are more politically engaged and probably older/retired so have more time to answer online surveys. This (allegedly) means they are likely to respond more quickly than Remainers and because online polling systems stop accepting responses from the various defined groups of voters when sampling quotas have been filled if the split of Leave/Remain amongst quick responders is not the same as the population as a whole the result of the poll will be unrepresentative.
This theory seems to have some logic to it - and clearly the punters and bookies believe it - but what is the counter-argument against phone polling? If we accept the online polls are right the phone polls must exaggerate Remain so why would Remainers be more likely to respond to phone calls than Leavers?
Just let that sink in for a minute.
UK = their servants
Time to #Brexit
UK leaves a free trade bloc and has to negotiate new trade agreements into order to avoid WTO 2% tariffs, ignoring a depreciated pound.
How does this guy know how much tariff we will pay? The deals haven't been negotiated yet. He also seems to have forgotten that Britain has a thumping great trade deficit and so should GAIN from tariffs, if we want to.
I think the lesson we should draw is that Civil Servants don't like extra work foisted upon them.
Perhaps they should be reminded they serve us, not the other way round.
Still, your words will be a comfort when I have to rot in a foreign jail for months for non-payment of euro taxes.
LEAVING is the best way to ensure we retain that sovereignty for our children and their children.
Believe in BRITAIN!
Be LEAVE!
Ex-General Tells PM To 'Bugger Off' Over Brexit
http://news.sky.com/story/1701753/ex-general-tells-pm-to-bugger-off-over-brexit
I'm perfectly capable on understanding your LEAVE propaganda without undue emphasis.
Mr Eagles. I agree. If Remain win, then Remainers should support further integration because it's what they are voting for.
That's where it varies from the Scottish Referendum. Winning meant a little more devolution.
Remain winning means less independence, a rump Parliament, a common currency, a European army, and a European defence policy. There's no pretence, but they just don't say it out loud.
Well done for your honesty.
I'd say a strong - though tangential - reason for sticking with the status quo is the damage that Brexit could do to what looks like it may be the stirrings of a nascent recovery in many parts of Europe. The last thing anyone wants now, surely, is a period of uncertainty and anything that knocks business and investor confidence. Should there be a negative market reaction to Brexit - and at the very least that is not out of the question - then it will have an impact across the EU. And that is something that will be very bad news for us too.
All signs of a sovereign nation.
BTW won't the French use their nukes against us?
It's LEAVERs who think we aren't (yet are somehow holding a referendum...)
The billionaire approved a $50 million investment in a company – only for the deal to be rewritten several weeks later as a ‘loan’.
Experts say that the effect of this move was to skirt vast tax liabilities, and court papers seen by the Telegraph allege that the deal amounted to fraud.
Independent tax accountants and lawyers said that the documents Mr Trump signed – copies of which were obtained by this newspaper as part of a three-month investigation - contained “red flags” indicating the deal was irregular.
But the Republican presumptive presidential nominee signed nonetheless.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/25/exclusive-donald-trump-signed-off-deal-designed-to-deprive-us-of/
"You're reading too much into my very subtle pop music references."
Very probably, but there's truth in jest. The direction of travel is consistent and I remember 1975 very well.
"Political Union? We're voting on a Common Market." There was no reference to tinfoil hats but the 1975 equivalent was swivel-eyed and Tony Benn.
One of the few things he got right.
I wonder if they will be stupid enough to roll out Merkel and Hollande to try it as well.
And still....only 21% of people believe they will be personally worse off if we leave the EU.
If we stay in the EU, we'll be staring down the Barrel Of A Gun.
Accrington StanleyEast 17? Who are they?"You're reading too much into my very subtle pop music references."
Like this young American group ...
"You can check out any time you like, But you can never leave."
The Establishment didn't even try to be impartial in 1975, but they're made some effort this time. Not totally successfully though. But leaving? If Remain wins, you can kiss goodbye to any more Referenda - this has been too tight for comfort.
Any EU state can summarily issue a warrant for your arrest and stick you in jail for months, for anything, without trial. Even something that's not a crime here.
LEAVING is the best way to ensure we retain that sovereignty for our children and their children.
Believe in BRITAIN!
Be LEAVE!
Mr. P, I actually feel some sympathy for the 'Brexit' music organisers. It's not their fault moronic musicians signed up without realising that 'Brexit' was a reference to the UK leaving the EU.