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  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    Roger said:
    Not on the pitch he can't! Since he moved from Swansea to man city he has been keeping the bench warm & recently not even that.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,628

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    MaxPB said:

    FPT:


    We would have to sort out where we stood on immigration.

    We'd also have to storm and occupy the National Liberal club, it is a rather nice club to have after all.

    That's workable, If an employer really needs that IT specialist etc, they can pay for them. They'd probably try harder to train them mind....

    But we wouldn't have as you say low skilled jobs being undercut all the time.

    There's mileage in a party after all... Stodge, do you sign up? What about Richard?
    Yes, this was discussed a couple of weeks ago on here. Something like a £5k per annum fee (per person, including children) and no entitlement to in-work or housing benefits would set an effective minimum salary for a singleton of around £35k pa and for a family around £55k, higher in London. It would not only raise money directly but discourage low skilled immigration and encourage employers to invest in training staff rather than hiring cheaply from abroad.
    I was slightly worried I thought the £5K per year was for party membership.. Cripes. A bit high.

    Then I read the rest. Phew.

    But yes that looks workable.
    LOL!
    Party membership would I'm sure be only a nominal fee, maybe the price of a pin badge so the sensible people can identify each other ;)

    Like most of these things, it's good to look around the world and see how other countries deal with immigration. Australia and Canada have been mentioned already, less so places like Singapore and the Gulf states who love immigrants with jobs but the arrangement is strictly temporary and tied to employment. My nephew was born in the sandpit, but he will never be an Emirati.
    I grew up in the Lebanon. My grandchildren wouldn't be citizens. Not saying that would be the way I would run it but others do.
    Yes, different places do it differently and we'd need something that the British were happy with as regards leave to remain, citizenship rights etc. Smaller countries with high immigration are fiercely protective of their identity as nationals, don't want to dilute it any more than it has been already with 90% of the population here being expats, and a foreign language used as the language of business and commerce.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,345
    edited May 2016

    Pulpstar said:

    MikeK said:

    MikeK said:

    Rod Liddle suspended from labour party for anti-anti-sementic remarks..

    Spoof or link,
    otherwise you stink!
    What is sementic anyway?
    F##king SwiftKey....it keeps doing his bollocks. Deeply unimpressed by the tech having tried it out. Hopefully gboard gets UK release soon.

    Link on previous thread.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7159998/Rod-Liddle-suspended-from-Labour-party-for-saying-anti-semitism-is-rife-among-Muslims.html
    You are forgiven. Give the keys a punch now and then, that'll calm them down.
    Microsoft paid $250 million for the British startup & it just doesn't bloody work. I spent more time u doing its incorrect predictions than I do typing messages.
    Britain has a fine and honourable tradition of selling duff companies to gullible foreigners. Long may it continue.
    The value of some of these tech companies is ludicrous.
    Will/has anything ever topped the valuation of AOL when they merged with Time Warner?
    ..
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944

    Netflix and Amazon’s video streaming services could be forced to devote “at least” 20 per cent of their catalogues to European films and TV shows as part of an overhaul of the EU’s broadcasting rules.

    Under a Brussels plan to be unveiled next week, video-on-demand groups would also be obliged to “ensure prominence” of any European works, potentially forcing them to replace valuable space on their homepages given to Hollywood blockbusters with French cinema.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4798d428-1d19-11e6-b286-cddde55ca122.html#axzz492lwuKFC

    See?

    Their nuts.

    You still for remain?
    Your misuse of 'their' is keeping me well away from Leavers.
    Oh really? They're nuts?

    Better now?

    Or do you still not see the problem? There is no level of lunacy that the EU will not jump to suit a protectionist mindset. It hurts Europe and the rest of the worlds poor, It doesn't hurt Hollywood much though.
    No, I refuse to engage with anyone who doesn't know the difference between, there, they're, and their.
    You've engage in conversation with me before.

    If you really think a typo is a defining factor you're even more small minded than I thought you were.
    Debating with you a waste of my time.

    I'm still waiting for proof of your assertion that the IMF wanted the UK to join the Euro.
    I thought I said the IMF was in favour of the Euro originally but I may be wrong. In any measure the Euro has been an economic disaster for everyone except Germany (and maybe some of the smaller countries) amplified at the southern periphery. The IMF was broadly supportive of the Euro in general when in fact it should have been pointing out that it was a disaster in waiting as Mrs T did in 1989. (When I thought she was wrong on many things though not that.)

    In any case the article you highlighted was originally in the Mail and was a hatchet piece with one quote from the IMF. What I was looking for was some actual IMF document.

    As for debating I suspect you mean baiting.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,628
    HYUFD said:

    Genuine obituary from the Richmond Times Despatch yesterday
    'NOLAND, Mary Anne Alfriend. Faced with the prospect of voting for either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, Mary Anne Noland of Richmond chose, instead, to pass into the eternal love of God on Sunday, May 15, 2016, at the age of 68.'
    http://www.richmond.com/obituaries/article_c21b60bc-1153-5abd-b3c8-268cfd32eb57.html

    Brilliant! Always good to see a sense of humour in the obituary columns. :D
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    Chris_A said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:



    It avoids beauracracy, it's raises money for the treasury, and (most importantly) it doesn't distort price signals in the way that quota systems do.

    Really, what's not to like?

    Edit to add: if you wish to stay more than three months in the UK, you need to purchase compulsory health care insurance.

    Migration policy sorted,

    Permenent right to remain and naturalisation next.

    Then free trade.
    There's another joy about my plan (which has been adopted by MaxPB and others); if economic times are tough, just raise the cost of compulsory health insurance, and ensure a negative flow of migrants.
    Economically this sounds equivalent to a flat-rate immigrant poll tax, except more expensive to administer.
    No. You apply for a work permit, get an NI number and it's all attached to that.
    Is that supposed to show that it's not economicaly equivalent to a flat-rate per-immigrant poll tax or is it supposed to show that it won't be more expensive to administer?
    The latter, I am not fused at how it looks to some.
    As it happens, do you still have a blog?
    Might have. Who's asking? ;)

    http://aconservatives.blogspot.co.uk/
  • VapidBilgeVapidBilge Posts: 412
    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Netflix and Amazon’s video streaming services could be forced to devote “at least” 20 per cent of their catalogues to European films and TV shows as part of an overhaul of the EU’s broadcasting rules.

    Under a Brussels plan to be unveiled next week, video-on-demand groups would also be obliged to “ensure prominence” of any European works, potentially forcing them to replace valuable space on their homepages given to Hollywood blockbusters with French cinema.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4798d428-1d19-11e6-b286-cddde55ca122.html#axzz492lwuKFC

    See?

    Their nuts.

    You still for remain?
    Your misuse of 'their' is keeping me well away from Leavers.
    Oh really? They're nuts?

    Better now?

    Or do you still not see the problem? There is no level of lunacy that the EU will not jump to suit a protectionist mindset. It hurts Europe and the rest of the worlds poor, It doesn't hurt Hollywood much though.
    No, I refuse to engage with anyone who doesn't know the difference between, there, they're, and their.
    Your and You're is my bugbear. Someone wrote "you're investment value can decrease" in some of our literature once. :/
    Its and It's my bugbear
    This was just poor English all around, and it went on some of the literature we send to clients. I remember reading and sending off a scathing email to our marketing department about the quality of writing. It makes us look unprofessional, but apparently being chummy and having shit English is the "in" thing at the moment.
    OK, I'll bite.

    Shit=Noun
    Shitty=Adjective

    So it should be 'shitty English.'
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    Roger said:
    That's harsh.

    Harsh but fair. *

    *I have no idea how good he is at football, nor in fact, do I care.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,735
    Fox News National (mind you it is Fox)

    Trump 45 Clinton 42

    Trump 42 Sanders 46
    https://twitter.com/foxnews
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited May 2016
    MaxPB said:

    Pulpstar said:

    MikeK said:

    MikeK said:

    Rod Liddle suspended from labour party for anti-anti-sementic remarks..

    Spoof or link,
    otherwise you stink!
    What is sementic anyway?
    F##king SwiftKey....it keeps doing his bollocks. Deeply unimpressed by the tech having tried it out. Hopefully gboard gets UK release soon.

    Link on previous thread.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7159998/Rod-Liddle-suspended-from-Labour-party-for-saying-anti-semitism-is-rife-among-Muslims.html
    You are forgiven. Give the keys a punch now and then, that'll calm them down.
    Microsoft paid $250 million for the British startup & it just doesn't bloody work. I spent more time u doing its incorrect predictions than I do typing messages.
    Britain has a fine and honourable tradition of selling duff companies to gullible foreigners. Long may it continue.
    The value of some of these tech companies is ludicrous.
    Will/has anything ever topped the valuation of AOL when they merged with Time Warner?
    ....
    Have they settled that court case yet?
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    @MaxPB - I think it's still a live legal case, you might like to edit!
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,345

    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Netflix and Amazon’s video streaming services could be forced to devote “at least” 20 per cent of their catalogues to European films and TV shows as part of an overhaul of the EU’s broadcasting rules.

    Under a Brussels plan to be unveiled next week, video-on-demand groups would also be obliged to “ensure prominence” of any European works, potentially forcing them to replace valuable space on their homepages given to Hollywood blockbusters with French cinema.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4798d428-1d19-11e6-b286-cddde55ca122.html#axzz492lwuKFC

    See?

    Their nuts.

    You still for remain?
    Your misuse of 'their' is keeping me well away from Leavers.
    Oh really? They're nuts?

    Better now?

    Or do you still not see the problem? There is no level of lunacy that the EU will not jump to suit a protectionist mindset. It hurts Europe and the rest of the worlds poor, It doesn't hurt Hollywood much though.
    No, I refuse to engage with anyone who doesn't know the difference between, there, they're, and their.
    Your and You're is my bugbear. Someone wrote "you're investment value can decrease" in some of our literature once. :/
    Its and It's my bugbear
    This was just poor English all around, and it went on some of the literature we send to clients. I remember reading and sending off a scathing email to our marketing department about the quality of writing. It makes us look unprofessional, but apparently being chummy and having shit English is the "in" thing at the moment.
    OK, I'll bite.

    Shit=Noun
    Shitty=Adjective

    So it should be 'shitty English.'
    I'm not putting it on bank marketing literature though, having shitty English on here is a prerequisite!
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,345

    @MaxPB - I think it's still a live legal case, you might like to edit!

    Didn't realise it was still going.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,628
    edited May 2016
    Pulpstar said:

    MikeK said:

    MikeK said:

    Rod Liddle suspended from labour party for anti-anti-sementic remarks..

    Spoof or link,
    otherwise you stink!
    What is sementic anyway?
    F##king SwiftKey....it keeps doing his bollocks. Deeply unimpressed by the tech having tried it out. Hopefully gboard gets UK release soon.

    Link on previous thread.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7159998/Rod-Liddle-suspended-from-Labour-party-for-saying-anti-semitism-is-rife-among-Muslims.html
    You are forgiven. Give the keys a punch now and then, that'll calm them down.
    Microsoft paid $250 million for the British startup & it just doesn't bloody work. I spent more time u doing its incorrect predictions than I do typing messages.
    Britain has a fine and honourable tradition of selling duff companies to gullible foreigners. Long may it continue.
    The value of some of these tech companies is ludicrous.
    The latest tech service business model seems to be to burn VC money giving the service away for free, then selling for big $$$ to MS/Google/Apple/whoever on the back of a user base, at the point where the business needs to start earning revenues from all the customers.

    See Twitter for a good example of a company that doesn't understand how to actually make any money, yet be somehow valued in the tens of billions of dollars. They don't have anything that can't be replicated by someone else, which is exactly what will happen when the advertising and sponsorship starts or the service is no longer free.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    MaxPB said:

    @MaxPB - I think it's still a live legal case, you might like to edit!

    Didn't realise it was still going.
    I think so, but I could be wrong.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    Microsoft Nokia deal has to be up there too...I noticed today they finally got rid of it all.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,735
    Sandpit said:

    HYUFD said:

    Genuine obituary from the Richmond Times Despatch yesterday
    'NOLAND, Mary Anne Alfriend. Faced with the prospect of voting for either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, Mary Anne Noland of Richmond chose, instead, to pass into the eternal love of God on Sunday, May 15, 2016, at the age of 68.'
    http://www.richmond.com/obituaries/article_c21b60bc-1153-5abd-b3c8-268cfd32eb57.html

    Brilliant! Always good to see a sense of humour in the obituary columns. :D
    Yes went out with a laugh!
  • Chris_AChris_A Posts: 1,237

    Chris_A said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:



    It avoids beauracracy, it's raises money for the treasury, and (most importantly) it doesn't distort price signals in the way that quota systems do.

    Really, what's not to like?

    Edit to add: if you wish to stay more than three months in the UK, you need to purchase compulsory health care insurance.

    Migration policy sorted,

    Permenent right to remain and naturalisation next.

    Then free trade.
    There's another joy about my plan (which has been adopted by MaxPB and others); if economic times are tough, just raise the cost of compulsory health insurance, and ensure a negative flow of migrants.
    Economically this sounds equivalent to a flat-rate immigrant poll tax, except more expensive to administer.
    No. You apply for a work permit, get an NI number and it's all attached to that.
    Is that supposed to show that it's not economicaly equivalent to a flat-rate per-immigrant poll tax or is it supposed to show that it won't be more expensive to administer?
    The latter, I am not fused at how it looks to some.
    As it happens, do you still have a blog?
    Might have. Who's asking? ;)

    http://aconservatives.blogspot.co.uk/
    Not quite as blatant with the advertising as in the dear distant days of old ;)
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,932
    Well it didn't take long for Neil Hamilton to embarrass UKIP did it.

    Even by UKIP standards allowing Hamilton any prominence is bizarre.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    HYUFD said:

    Fox News National (mind you it is Fox)

    Trump 45 Clinton 42

    Trump 42 Sanders 46
    https://twitter.com/foxnews

    0.5 GOP lean, C+ rated pollster by 538.

    Their polls have been fine so far - and it fits the general poll of improving Trump polls...

    Hillary is having a right old slog against the Bernster whereas Trump is already "Presumptive nominee".
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    Sandpit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    MikeK said:

    MikeK said:

    Rod Liddle suspended from labour party for anti-anti-sementic remarks..

    Spoof or link,
    otherwise you stink!
    What is sementic anyway?
    F##king SwiftKey....it keeps doing his bollocks. Deeply unimpressed by the tech having tried it out. Hopefully gboard gets UK release soon.

    Link on previous thread.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7159998/Rod-Liddle-suspended-from-Labour-party-for-saying-anti-semitism-is-rife-among-Muslims.html
    You are forgiven. Give the keys a punch now and then, that'll calm them down.
    Microsoft paid $250 million for the British startup & it just doesn't bloody work. I spent more time u doing its incorrect predictions than I do typing messages.
    Britain has a fine and honourable tradition of selling duff companies to gullible foreigners. Long may it continue.
    The value of some of these tech companies is ludicrous.
    The latest tech service business model seems to be to burn VC money giving the service away for free, then selling for big $$$ to MS/Google/Apple/whoever on the back of a user base, at the point where the business needs to start earning revenues from all the customers.

    See Twitter for a good example of a company that doesn't understand how to actually make any money, yet be somehow valued in the tens of billions of dollars.
    HBO show silicon valley is a very funny take on all this nonsense.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,345
    Sandpit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    MikeK said:

    MikeK said:

    Rod Liddle suspended from labour party for anti-anti-sementic remarks..

    Spoof or link,
    otherwise you stink!
    What is sementic anyway?
    F##king SwiftKey....it keeps doing his bollocks. Deeply unimpressed by the tech having tried it out. Hopefully gboard gets UK release soon.

    Link on previous thread.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7159998/Rod-Liddle-suspended-from-Labour-party-for-saying-anti-semitism-is-rife-among-Muslims.html
    You are forgiven. Give the keys a punch now and then, that'll calm them down.
    Microsoft paid $250 million for the British startup & it just doesn't bloody work. I spent more time u doing its incorrect predictions than I do typing messages.
    Britain has a fine and honourable tradition of selling duff companies to gullible foreigners. Long may it continue.
    The value of some of these tech companies is ludicrous.
    The latest tech service business model seems to be to burn VC money giving the service away for free, then selling for big $$$ to MS/Google/Apple/whoever on the back of a user base, at the point where the business needs to start earning revenues from all the customers.

    See Twitter for a good example of a company that doesn't understand how to actually make any money, yet be somehow valued in the tens of billions of dollars.
    Not tens of billions any more! Twitter is buggered. They don't know how to make money and they have pissed off half of their user base, and discovered the half they didn't piss off all use ad-blocking software.
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36327353

    Further interest rate rise due in US next month.

    Has Carney missed the boat over here leaving Osborne with no wriggle room when the recession hits?
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,504

    Cyclefree said:

    So do I. But then my first financial case was the Guinness scandal which was before any form of regulation. There are people running banks who weren't even born then....... And therein is one of the problems of the City.

    Was it actually a scandal? From the outside, it seemed to be a completely victimless 'crime' based on a novel and dubious interpretation of an obscure law, for which absurdly long sentences - more than people get for violent assaults - were handed down.
    Tut, tut, Mr N. Fraud - and it was fraud - is NEVER a victimless crime. We do not take it seriously enough, one reason why we keep on having misbehaviour.

    It certainly was a scandal. The final official report was released far too late so very few people read it let alone learnt its lessons. In essence it described the essentials - in terms of conduct - of every City scandal since.

    And @TSE I acted for one of the others arrested - but not in the end charged - not the infamous Mr Saunders who, miraculously, went on to act as an advisor to Charles Dunstone of Carphone Warehouse fame.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,345

    Microsoft Nokia deal has to be up there too...I noticed today they finally got rid of it all.

    And Nokia have licensed their name/brand to a new Finnish company in which they have stake. The company will make Android phones and tablets under the Nokia name, rumours are that Nokia will have first option to purchase the company as part of the deal.

    I'd be amazed if they can make it successful, but the Nokia brand still carries a lot of weight in Europe and Asia.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,628

    Sandpit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    MikeK said:

    MikeK said:

    Rod Liddle suspended from labour party for anti-anti-sementic remarks..

    Spoof or link,
    otherwise you stink!
    What is sementic anyway?
    F##king SwiftKey....it keeps doing his bollocks. Deeply unimpressed by the tech having tried it out. Hopefully gboard gets UK release soon.

    Link on previous thread.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7159998/Rod-Liddle-suspended-from-Labour-party-for-saying-anti-semitism-is-rife-among-Muslims.html
    You are forgiven. Give the keys a punch now and then, that'll calm them down.
    Microsoft paid $250 million for the British startup & it just doesn't bloody work. I spent more time u doing its incorrect predictions than I do typing messages.
    Britain has a fine and honourable tradition of selling duff companies to gullible foreigners. Long may it continue.
    The value of some of these tech companies is ludicrous.
    The latest tech service business model seems to be to burn VC money giving the service away for free, then selling for big $$$ to MS/Google/Apple/whoever on the back of a user base, at the point where the business needs to start earning revenues from all the customers.

    See Twitter for a good example of a company that doesn't understand how to actually make any money, yet be somehow valued in the tens of billions of dollars.
    HBO show silicon valley is a very funny take on all this nonsense.
    Sounds fun, will take a look. Thanks.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,433

    Well it didn't take long for Neil Hamilton to embarrass UKIP did it.

    Even by UKIP standards allowing Hamilton any prominence is bizarre.

    I was thinking earlier on, assuming Remain wins, Farage stands down as UKIP Leader, and Neil Hamilton is elected as the new UKIP Leader.

    Then I thought, nah, the Tories can't be that lucky.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Roger said:
    Not on the pitch he can't! Since he moved from Swansea to man city he has been keeping the bench warm & recently not even that.
    Man City are pretty good at killing off rising talent. They did the same for Stirling.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,345
    Better not say anything in that case, wouldn't want any impertinent lawyers knocking on Mike's door!
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    Chris_A said:

    Chris_A said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:



    It avoids beauracracy, it's raises money for the treasury, and (most importantly) it doesn't distort price signals in the way that quota systems do.

    Really, what's not to like?

    Edit to add: if you wish to stay more than three months in the UK, you need to purchase compulsory health care insurance.

    Migration policy sorted,

    Permenent right to remain and naturalisation next.

    Then free trade.
    There's another joy about my plan (which has been adopted by MaxPB and others); if economic times are tough, just raise the cost of compulsory health insurance, and ensure a negative flow of migrants.
    Economically this sounds equivalent to a flat-rate immigrant poll tax, except more expensive to administer.
    No. You apply for a work permit, get an NI number and it's all attached to that.
    Is that supposed to show that it's not economicaly equivalent to a flat-rate per-immigrant poll tax or is it supposed to show that it won't be more expensive to administer?
    The latter, I am not fused at how it looks to some.
    As it happens, do you still have a blog?
    Might have. Who's asking? ;)

    http://aconservatives.blogspot.co.uk/
    Not quite as blatant with the advertising as in the dear distant days of old ;)
    I may be wrong but I suspect some here may be aware I have a blog.. :)
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,628
    edited May 2016
    MaxPB said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    MikeK said:

    MikeK said:

    Rod Liddle suspended from labour party for anti-anti-sementic remarks..

    Spoof or link,
    otherwise you stink!
    What is sementic anyway?
    F##king SwiftKey....it keeps doing his bollocks. Deeply unimpressed by the tech having tried it out. Hopefully gboard gets UK release soon.

    Link on previous thread.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7159998/Rod-Liddle-suspended-from-Labour-party-for-saying-anti-semitism-is-rife-among-Muslims.html
    You are forgiven. Give the keys a punch now and then, that'll calm them down.
    Microsoft paid $250 million for the British startup & it just doesn't bloody work. I spent more time u doing its incorrect predictions than I do typing messages.
    Britain has a fine and honourable tradition of selling duff companies to gullible foreigners. Long may it continue.
    The value of some of these tech companies is ludicrous.
    The latest tech service business model seems to be to burn VC money giving the service away for free, then selling for big $$$ to MS/Google/Apple/whoever on the back of a user base, at the point where the business needs to start earning revenues from all the customers.

    See Twitter for a good example of a company that doesn't understand how to actually make any money, yet be somehow valued in the tens of billions of dollars.
    Not tens of billions any more! Twitter is buggered. They don't know how to make money and they have pissed off half of their user base, and discovered the half they didn't piss off all use ad-blocking software.
    Yep. There will be a 'new Twitter' just around the corner, like the old Twitter but with no ads and a few million in capital to burn attracting users, and so the cycle repeats itself.

    Ad blocking is now mainstream, and the websites and advertisers have brought in on themselves with 3rd party ad domains, auto play video, pop up and under, processor heavy scripts and outright malware. It's now actually dangerous to use a Windows box on the Internet without an ad blocker.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,062

    Chris_A said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:



    It avoids beauracracy, it's raises money for the treasury, and (most importantly) it doesn't distort price signals in the way that quota systems do.

    Really, what's not to like?

    Edit to add: if you wish to stay more than three months in the UK, you need to purchase compulsory health care insurance.

    Migration policy sorted,

    Permenent right to remain and naturalisation next.

    Then free trade.
    There's another joy about my plan (which has been adopted by MaxPB and others); if economic times are tough, just raise the cost of compulsory health insurance, and ensure a negative flow of migrants.
    Economically this sounds equivalent to a flat-rate immigrant poll tax, except more expensive to administer.
    No. You apply for a work permit, get an NI number and it's all attached to that.
    Is that supposed to show that it's not economicaly equivalent to a flat-rate per-immigrant poll tax or is it supposed to show that it won't be more expensive to administer?
    The latter, I am not fused at how it looks to some.
    As it happens, do you still have a blog?
    Might have. Who's asking? ;)

    http://aconservatives.blogspot.co.uk/
    Benny the blog....I'd forgotten.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    MikeK said:

    MikeK said:

    Rod Liddle suspended from labour party for anti-anti-sementic remarks..

    Spoof or link,
    otherwise you stink!
    What is sementic anyway?
    F##king SwiftKey....it keeps doing his bollocks. Deeply unimpressed by the tech having tried it out. Hopefully gboard gets UK release soon.

    Link on previous thread.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7159998/Rod-Liddle-suspended-from-Labour-party-for-saying-anti-semitism-is-rife-among-Muslims.html
    You are forgiven. Give the keys a punch now and then, that'll calm them down.
    Microsoft paid $250 million for the British startup & it just doesn't bloody work. I spent more time u doing its incorrect predictions than I do typing messages.
    Britain has a fine and honourable tradition of selling duff companies to gullible foreigners. Long may it continue.
    The value of some of these tech companies is ludicrous.
    The latest tech service business model seems to be to burn VC money giving the service away for free, then selling for big $$$ to MS/Google/Apple/whoever on the back of a user base, at the point where the business needs to start earning revenues from all the customers.

    See Twitter for a good example of a company that doesn't understand how to actually make any money, yet be somehow valued in the tens of billions of dollars.
    HBO show silicon valley is a very funny take on all this nonsense.
    Sounds fun, will take a look. Thanks.
    They are on season 3 now...I don't know if they can keep the gag going much longer but season 1-2 are IMO funny parody of what a small start up goes through at the moment.

    There was a funny gag in last week episode where an engineer changed his LinkedIn status to.looking for work to find he is bombarded by freebies from other startups just to agree to meet with them.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,628

    Roger said:
    Not on the pitch he can't! Since he moved from Swansea to man city he has been keeping the bench warm & recently not even that.
    Man City are pretty good at killing off rising talent. They did the same for Stirling.
    Liverpool could have done with him tonight!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Sandpit said:

    MaxPB said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    MikeK said:

    MikeK said:

    Rod Liddle suspended from labour party for anti-anti-sementic remarks..

    Spoof or link,
    otherwise you stink!
    What is sementic anyway?
    F##king SwiftKey....it keeps doing his bollocks. Deeply unimpressed by the tech having tried it out. Hopefully gboard gets UK release soon.

    Link on previous thread.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7159998/Rod-Liddle-suspended-from-Labour-party-for-saying-anti-semitism-is-rife-among-Muslims.html
    You are forgiven. Give the keys a punch now and then, that'll calm them down.
    Microsoft paid $250 million for the British startup & it just doesn't bloody work. I spent more time u doing its incorrect predictions than I do typing messages.
    Britain has a fine and honourable tradition of selling duff companies to gullible foreigners. Long may it continue.
    The value of some of these tech companies is ludicrous.
    The latest tech service business model seems to be to burn VC money giving the service away for free, then selling for big $$$ to MS/Google/Apple/whoever on the back of a user base, at the point where the business needs to start earning revenues from all the customers.

    See Twitter for a good example of a company that doesn't understand how to actually make any money, yet be somehow valued in the tens of billions of dollars.
    Not tens of billions any more! Twitter is buggered. They don't know how to make money and they have pissed off half of their user base, and discovered the half they didn't piss off all use ad-blocking software.
    Yep. Ad blocking is now mainstream, and the websites and advertisers have brought in on themselves with 3rd party ad domains, auto play video, pop up and under, processor heavy scripts and outright malware. It's now actually dangerous to use a Windows box on the Internet without an ad blocker.
    I only have it disabled for here.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    Cyclefree said:

    Tut, tut, Mr N. Fraud - and it was fraud - is NEVER a victimless crime. We do not take it seriously enough, one reason why we keep on having misbehaviour.

    It certainly was a scandal. The final official report was released far too late so very few people read it let alone learnt its lessons. In essence it described the essentials - in terms of conduct - of every City scandal since.

    I'd like to get the chance to ask you about it sometime. It all seemed over the top at the time, admittedly going only on press reports. In particular, IIRC the original sentences were 5 years' jail. If they'd defrauded grannies of their life savings, they'd have got less than that for a first offence.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    Sandpit said:

    MaxPB said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    MikeK said:

    MikeK said:

    Rod Liddle suspended from labour party for anti-anti-sementic remarks..

    Spoof or link,
    otherwise you stink!
    What is sementic anyway?
    F##king SwiftKey....it keeps doing his bollocks. Deeply unimpressed by the tech having tried it out. Hopefully gboard gets UK release soon.

    Link on previous thread.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7159998/Rod-Liddle-suspended-from-Labour-party-for-saying-anti-semitism-is-rife-among-Muslims.html
    You are forgiven. Give the keys a punch now and then, that'll calm them down.
    Microsoft paid $250 million for the British startup & it just doesn't bloody work. I spent more time u doing its incorrect predictions than I do typing messages.
    Britain has a fine and honourable tradition of selling duff companies to gullible foreigners. Long may it continue.
    The value of some of these tech companies is ludicrous.
    The latest tech service business model seems to be to burn VC money giving the service away for free, then selling for big $$$ to MS/Google/Apple/whoever on the back of a user base, at the point where the business needs to start earning revenues from all the customers.

    See Twitter for a good example of a company that doesn't understand how to actually make any money, yet be somehow valued in the tens of billions of dollars.
    Not tens of billions any more! Twitter is buggered. They don't know how to make money and they have pissed off half of their user base, and discovered the half they didn't piss off all use ad-blocking software.
    Yep. Ad blocking is now mainstream, and the websites and advertisers have brought in on themselves with 3rd party ad domains, auto play video, pop up and under, processor heavy scripts and outright malware. It's now actually dangerous to use a Windows box on the Internet without an ad blocker.
    I wouldn't browse without adblocking & malwarebytes (blocking functionality) on.
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944

    Well it didn't take long for Neil Hamilton to embarrass UKIP did it.

    Even by UKIP standards allowing Hamilton any prominence is bizarre.

    I was thinking earlier on, assuming Remain wins, Farage stands down as UKIP Leader, and Neil Hamilton is elected as the new UKIP Leader.

    Then I thought, nah, the Tories can't be that lucky.
    Really? How about Corbyn?

    The Conservative party could have Hamilton as leader, caught in flagrante with a miner (deliberate) and still get elected.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    MaxPB said:

    MikeK said:

    MikeK said:

    Rod Liddle suspended from labour party for anti-anti-sementic remarks..

    Spoof or link,
    otherwise you stink!
    What is sementic anyway?
    F##king SwiftKey....it keeps doing his bollocks. Deeply unimpressed by the tech having tried it out. Hopefully gboard gets UK release soon.

    Link on previous thread.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7159998/Rod-Liddle-suspended-from-Labour-party-for-saying-anti-semitism-is-rife-among-Muslims.html
    You are forgiven. Give the keys a punch now and then, that'll calm them down.
    Microsoft paid $250 million for the British startup & it just doesn't bloody work. I spent more time u doing its incorrect predictions than I do typing messages.
    Britain has a fine and honourable tradition of selling duff companies to gullible foreigners. Long may it continue.
    Autonomy comes to mind! :lol:
    I thought Autonomy was a good company before HP got it's hands on it. Often the case when smaller more agile(?) companies get eaten by larger and slower companies. A bit like the game Agar.io

    hmmm I wonder how many on this site will get that reference.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,932
    Did someone really try to claim that wages are rising rapidly this morning ?

    From the ONS:

    ' Between January to March 2015 and January to March 2016, in nominal terms, total pay increased by 2.0%, little changed compared with the growth rate between the 3 months to February 2015 and the 3 months to February 2016 (1.9%). '

    By comparison annual RPI in March was 1.6%.

    I'm sure we can all do the maths.

    During the last decade annual real wages growth (using RPI) has been an average of -0.8% per year ie a reduction. The three decades before that had average annual increases in real wages of 2.0% (1997-2006), 2.2% (1987-1996) and 2.1% (1977-1986) with a mighty 3.4 annual average between 1967 and 1976.

    How much the decade long fall in real wages that Britain has suffered is a result of immigration, of more general effects of globalisation or in changes in the structure of the UK economy needs to be researched at a much more in depth level than I am ever going to do.

    But what is without question is that there has been a shift in economic power from those who work to those who own.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    edited May 2016
    Sandpit said:

    Yep. Ad blocking is now mainstream, and the websites and advertisers have brought in on themselves with 3rd party ad domains, auto play video, pop up and under, processor heavy scripts and outright malware. It's now actually dangerous to use a Windows box on the Internet without an ad blocker.

    Precisely. I don't want an ad blocker as such, but there's no way on this earth I'm going to put up with things flashing, scrolling, playing videos, or otherwise trying to give me an apoplexy when I'm trying to read an article.

    If they just displayed static ads, I'd be entirely happy to see them, and I'd click on ones of interest.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    nunu said:

    MaxPB said:

    MikeK said:

    MikeK said:

    Rod Liddle suspended from labour party for anti-anti-sementic remarks..

    Spoof or link,
    otherwise you stink!
    What is sementic anyway?
    F##king SwiftKey....it keeps doing his bollocks. Deeply unimpressed by the tech having tried it out. Hopefully gboard gets UK release soon.

    Link on previous thread.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7159998/Rod-Liddle-suspended-from-Labour-party-for-saying-anti-semitism-is-rife-among-Muslims.html
    You are forgiven. Give the keys a punch now and then, that'll calm them down.
    Microsoft paid $250 million for the British startup & it just doesn't bloody work. I spent more time u doing its incorrect predictions than I do typing messages.
    Britain has a fine and honourable tradition of selling duff companies to gullible foreigners. Long may it continue.
    Autonomy comes to mind! :lol:
    I thought Autonomy was a good company before HP got it's hands on it. Often the case when smaller more agile(?) companies get eaten by larger and slower companies. A bit like the game Agar.io

    hmmm I wonder how many on this site will get that reference.
    Need to be careful but the boss of autonomy has been taken to court for effectively miss selling what his tech could do....and yes I get the agar.io ref...very good.
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    Sandpit said:

    MaxPB said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    MikeK said:

    MikeK said:

    Rod Liddle suspended from labour party for anti-anti-sementic remarks..

    Spoof or link,
    otherwise you stink!
    What is sementic anyway?
    F##king SwiftKey....it keeps doing his bollocks. Deeply unimpressed by the tech having tried it out. Hopefully gboard gets UK release soon.

    Link on previous thread.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7159998/Rod-Liddle-suspended-from-Labour-party-for-saying-anti-semitism-is-rife-among-Muslims.html
    You are forgiven. Give the keys a punch now and then, that'll calm them down.
    Microsoft paid $250 million for the British startup & it just doesn't bloody work. I spent more time u doing its incorrect predictions than I do typing messages.
    Britain has a fine and honourable tradition of selling duff companies to gullible foreigners. Long may it continue.
    The value of some of these tech companies is ludicrous.
    The latest tech service business model seems to be to burn VC money giving the service away for free, then selling for big $$$ to MS/Google/Apple/whoever on the back of a user base, at the point where the business needs to start earning revenues from all the customers.

    See Twitter for a good example of a company that doesn't understand how to actually make any money, yet be somehow valued in the tens of billions of dollars.
    Not tens of billions any more! Twitter is buggered. They don't know how to make money and they have pissed off half of their user base, and discovered the half they didn't piss off all use ad-blocking software.
    Yep. There will be a 'new Twitter' just around the corner, like the old Twitter but with no ads and a few million in capital to burn attracting users, and so the cycle repeats itself.

    Ad blocking is now mainstream, and the websites and advertisers have brought in on themselves with 3rd party ad domains, auto play video, pop up and under, processor heavy scripts and outright malware. It's now actually dangerous to use a Windows box on the Internet without an ad blocker.
    That's the thing I can't understand. Why have adverts so heavy that you go away as soon as you arrive or your machine grinds to a halt? It's simply not good advertising.

    It even makes Linux machines (what I use at home) grind, though I don't have issues with malware as it's bomb proof.
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    Roger said:

    Chris_A said:



    No. You apply for a work permit, get an NI number and it's all attached to that.

    Is that supposed to show that it's not economicaly equivalent to a flat-rate per-immigrant poll tax or is it supposed to show that it won't be more expensive to administer?
    The latter, I am not fused at how it looks to some.
    As it happens, do you still have a blog?
    Might have. Who's asking? ;)

    http://aconservatives.blogspot.co.uk/
    Benny the blog....I'd forgotten.
    Now you're lying.... ;)
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,504

    Cyclefree said:

    Tut, tut, Mr N. Fraud - and it was fraud - is NEVER a victimless crime. We do not take it seriously enough, one reason why we keep on having misbehaviour.

    It certainly was a scandal. The final official report was released far too late so very few people read it let alone learnt its lessons. In essence it described the essentials - in terms of conduct - of every City scandal since.

    I'd like to get the chance to ask you about it sometime. It all seemed over the top at the time, admittedly going only on press reports. In particular, IIRC the original sentences were 5 years' jail. If they'd defrauded grannies of their life savings, they'd have got less than that for a first offence.
    At the next PB meet, then. Never rely on press reports of City cases: invariably wrong and incomplete. One reason the sentences were relatively high was because the defendants were all professional men and the courts took a dim view then of such people breaching trust.

    I think fraud is sentenced far too leniently. A few lengthy exemplary sentences would do wonders to get the message across. Victimless crime indeed! Real people suffer when someone breaks the trust placed in them.

    Anyway, thanks all for the discussion and kind comments.

    Goodnight all.
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    AnneJGP said:

    @Cyclefree A pity your excellent thread header couldn't stay up longer for further discussion. Bit of a waste. (Like the EU)

    Agreed. Thank you @Cyclefree

    It is an excellent article.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,735

    Well it didn't take long for Neil Hamilton to embarrass UKIP did it.

    Even by UKIP standards allowing Hamilton any prominence is bizarre.

    I was thinking earlier on, assuming Remain wins, Farage stands down as UKIP Leader, and Neil Hamilton is elected as the new UKIP Leader.

    Then I thought, nah, the Tories can't be that lucky.
    Unless Remain win big ie close to 60%+ if Remain win narrowly whoever leads UKIP is likely to get a bounce
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944

    Did someone really try to claim that wages are rising rapidly this morning ?

    From the ONS:

    ' Between January to March 2015 and January to March 2016, in nominal terms, total pay increased by 2.0%, little changed compared with the growth rate between the 3 months to February 2015 and the 3 months to February 2016 (1.9%). '

    By comparison annual RPI in March was 1.6%.

    I'm sure we can all do the maths.

    During the last decade annual real wages growth (using RPI) has been an average of -0.8% per year ie a reduction. The three decades before that had average annual increases in real wages of 2.0% (1997-2006), 2.2% (1987-1996) and 2.1% (1977-1986) with a mighty 3.4 annual average between 1967 and 1976.

    How much the decade long fall in real wages that Britain has suffered is a result of immigration, of more general effects of globalisation or in changes in the structure of the UK economy needs to be researched at a much more in depth level than I am ever going to do.

    But what is without question is that there has been a shift in economic power from those who work to those who own.

    One of the main reasons I am voting leave though there are many others.

    Have you got links? I'd like to put that (or something like it) on my blog.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Re: Manchester mayor. although the tories won't win they should be aiming for a good second after gianing three seats in the GE and holding two, although that might be the S.N.P effect.

    Who could the tories select that has a high enough profile to have a good vote (if winning is out of the question)? Please not someone like Graham Brady who only appeals to cheshire really. I suggest they learn from Ruth Davidson and try to go back to a sort of working class torism to have a chance prehaps a candiadate who is not normally associated with the tories so that they can take votes from people who would have never have voted for him/her before again like Ruth was able to do with tory votes going up like 10% in some central belt seats they didn't have a chance in (although I get that was a lot to do with the constitution question).
    Any suggestions from manchester tories on here?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,628
    edited May 2016

    Sandpit said:

    MaxPB said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    MikeK said:
    Microsoft paid $250 million for the British startup & it just doesn't bloody work. I spent more time u doing its incorrect predictions than I do typing messages.
    Britain has a fine and honourable tradition of selling duff companies to gullible foreigners. Long may it continue.
    The value of some of these tech companies is ludicrous.
    The latest tech service business model seems to be to burn VC money giving the service away for free, then selling for big $$$ to MS/Google/Apple/whoever on the back of a user base, at the point where the business needs to start earning revenues from all the customers.

    See Twitter for a good example of a company that doesn't understand how to actually make any money, yet be somehow valued in the tens of billions of dollars.
    Not tens of billions any more! Twitter is buggered. They don't know how to make money and they have pissed off half of their user base, and discovered the half they didn't piss off all use ad-blocking software.
    Yep. There will be a 'new Twitter' just around the corner, like the old Twitter but with no ads and a few million in capital to burn attracting users, and so the cycle repeats itself.

    Ad blocking is now mainstream, and the websites and advertisers have brought in on themselves with 3rd party ad domains, auto play video, pop up and under, processor heavy scripts and outright malware. It's now actually dangerous to use a Windows box on the Internet without an ad blocker.
    That's the thing I can't understand. Why have adverts so heavy that you go away as soon as you arrive or your machine grinds to a halt? It's simply not good advertising.

    It even makes Linux machines (what I use at home) grind, though I don't have issues with malware as it's bomb proof.
    Yes, online advertising has pretty much eaten itself. When I get asked to roll Firefox and ABP into corporate PC images I know that the average Joe is fed up with the online experience. When I see an almost new laptop with an i7, 16GB RAM and an SSD struggle to load half a dozen web pages, as I did a couple of weeks ago, it amazes me that they don't see how they are screwing with their customers.

    One advantage of the move to web apps and tablets is that mainstream software vendors are now coding for multi-platform environments. Maybe 2016 is the year of Linux on the desktop after all ;)
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Anyone on LinkedIn?

    A hacker claiming to have more than one hundred million LinkedIn logins is advertising them for sale online. The extensive list of user IDs and passwords were allegedly sourced from a cyber attack on the networking site four years ago.

    According to news site Motherboard, a hacker calling himself "Peace" has placed the alleged details of 117 million LinkedIn users on "dark web" marketplace The Real Deal for the price of 5 Bitcoin - the digital currency - worth around £1,500.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1698462/millions-of-linkedin-logins-for-sale
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,628
    nunu said:

    Re: Manchester mayor. although the tories won't win they should be aiming for a good second after gianing three seats in the GE and holding two, although that might be the S.N.P effect.

    Who could the tories select that has a high enough profile to have a good vote (if winning is out of the question)? Please not someone like Graham Brady who only appeals to cheshire really. I suggest they learn from Ruth Davidson and try to go back to a sort of working class torism to have a chance prehaps a candiadate who is not normally associated with the tories so that they can take votes from people who would have never have voted for him/her before again like Ruth was able to do with tory votes going up like 10% in some central belt seats they didn't have a chance in (although I get that was a lot to do with the constitution question).
    Any suggestions from manchester tories on here?

    Should we persuade @TheScreamingEagles to stand?
  • JasonJason Posts: 1,614
    'What is the future for Labour?'

    Oblivion.
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    MaxPB said:



    Not tens of billions any more! Twitter is buggered. They don't know how to make money and they have pissed off half of their user base, and discovered the half they didn't piss off all use ad-blocking software.

    Yep. There will be a 'new Twitter' just around the corner, like the old Twitter but with no ads and a few million in capital to burn attracting users, and so the cycle repeats itself.

    Ad blocking is now mainstream, and the websites and advertisers have brought in on themselves with 3rd party ad domains, auto play video, pop up and under, processor heavy scripts and outright malware. It's now actually dangerous to use a Windows box on the Internet without an ad blocker.
    That's the thing I can't understand. Why have adverts so heavy that you go away as soon as you arrive or your machine grinds to a halt? It's simply not good advertising.

    It even makes Linux machines (what I use at home) grind, though I don't have issues with malware as it's bomb proof.
    Yes, online advertising has pretty much eaten itself. When I get asked to roll Firefox and ABP into corporate PC images I know that the average Joe is fed up with the online experience. When I see an almost new laptop with an i7, 16GB RAM and an SSD struggle to load half a dozen web pages, as I did a couple of weeks ago, it amazes me that they don't see how they are screwing wi their customers.

    One advantage of the move to web apps and tablets is that mainstream software vendors are now coding for multi-platform environments. Maybe 2016 is the year of Linux on the desktop after all ;)
    If it's running Android its running Linux at the bottom layer so it is already the most popular OS out there.

    Alas too many Linux desktops are moving to a more Windows 8/10 style which is sub optimal on the desktop. It's certainly pants on Windows Server 2012.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,674
    The British press presents European commissioners as Hitlerian Reichskomissars waging wars on British bananas, British vacuum cleaners and British tea. I wonder why they don't want to volunteer to present an agreed vision to a Leave campaign that doesn't agree on an agreed vision itself, for good reasons like the democratic right of the electorate to change the proposed shape of the UK under Leave. Well, Europe is democratic too. Such a unilateral exercise in offering hostages to fortune would be tantamount to "Remain's policy on arms"!
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    "The European Commission wants to tap streaming video services like Netflix and Amazon Prime to fund the production of European movies and TV programs, after intense lobbying by France to help protect its industry.

    A draft of the regulation obtained by POLITICO says, “member nations may require providers of on-demand audiovisual media services … to contribute financially to the production of European works.”

    On-demand-video streaming services would also have to ensure that at least 20 percent of their catalogs for EU viewers were European productions. There is currently no quota."

    http://www.politico.eu/article/amazon-prime-european-movies-commission-wants-to-hit-netflix-with-movie-tax/
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,628
    Michael Gove on the prison reforms, writing in the DT:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/18/hope-is-at-the-heart-of-my-prisons-reform/
    Good stuff.
    When prisoners are released we want them to walk through the gates as better men and women, with the skills to hold down a job. That way, instead of being liabilities to society – bringing misery into the lives of others and costing the state millions – they become law-abiding, economically active assets to our country. I believe in the power of rehabilitation and redemption because I believe in the innate worth of every individual. I refuse to write anyone off and I reject the idea that we should give up on any human being.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    MP_SE said:

    "The European Commission wants to tap streaming video services like Netflix and Amazon Prime to fund the production of European movies and TV programs, after intense lobbying by France to help protect its industry.

    A draft of the regulation obtained by POLITICO says, “member nations may require providers of on-demand audiovisual media services … to contribute financially to the production of European works.”

    On-demand-video streaming services would also have to ensure that at least 20 percent of their catalogs for EU viewers were European productions. There is currently no quota."

    http://www.politico.eu/article/amazon-prime-european-movies-commission-wants-to-hit-netflix-with-movie-tax/

    Ooh! I do hope so

    I get sick of the American dross that pads out their catalogue, as if we are just an afterthought to their real market. Bring it on!
  • NormNorm Posts: 1,251
    HYUFD said:

    Well it didn't take long for Neil Hamilton to embarrass UKIP did it.

    Even by UKIP standards allowing Hamilton any prominence is bizarre.

    I was thinking earlier on, assuming Remain wins, Farage stands down as UKIP Leader, and Neil Hamilton is elected as the new UKIP Leader.

    Then I thought, nah, the Tories can't be that lucky.
    Unless Remain win big ie close to 60%+ if Remain win narrowly whoever leads UKIP is likely to get a bounce
    Looking at that MORI poll I have to say Leave on 37% looks wrong. They managed 33% in 1975 when there was considerably less euroscepticism than today. It also doesn't accord with the canvassing returns that I've been made aware of (unless everybody is lying).
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,587
    To be honest I feel the podcasts are perhaps more for a wider public who might be drawn into PB (and nothing wrong with that). This one didn't really say anything that hasn't already been said quite a bit in the comments - all perfectly sensible, but nothing deeper-going than what we routinely chew over.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,628

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    MaxPB said:


    Not tens of billions any more! Twitter is buggered. They don't know how to make money and they have pissed off half of their user base, and discovered the half they didn't piss off all use ad-blocking software.

    Yep. There will be a 'new Twitter' just around the corner, like the old Twitter but with no ads and a few million in capital to burn attracting users, and so the cycle repeats itself.

    Ad blocking is now mainstream, and the websites and advertisers have brought in on themselves with 3rd party ad domains, auto play video, pop up and under, processor heavy scripts and outright malware. It's now actually dangerous to use a Windows box on the Internet without an ad blocker.
    That's the thing I can't understand. Why have adverts so heavy that you go away as soon as you arrive or your machine grinds to a halt? It's simply not good advertising.

    It even makes Linux machines (what I use at home) grind, though I don't have issues with malware as it's bomb proof.
    Yes, online advertising has pretty much eaten itself. When I get asked to roll Firefox and ABP into corporate PC images I know that the average Joe is fed up with the online experience. When I see an almost new laptop with an i7, 16GB RAM and an SSD struggle to load half a dozen web pages, as I did a couple of weeks ago, it amazes me that they don't see how they are screwing wi their customers.

    One advantage of the move to web apps and tablets is that mainstream software vendors are now coding for multi-platform environments. Maybe 2016 is the year of Linux on the desktop after all ;)
    If it's running Android its running Linux at the bottom layer so it is already the most popular OS out there.

    Alas too many Linux desktops are moving to a more Windows 8/10 style which is sub optimal on the desktop. It's certainly pants on Windows Server 2012.
    Very true, although my Mum likes that Ubuntu looks almost the same as W7 she had before, and doesn't ask me too many questions about how to use it!

    Anyway, this is PB not Slashdot, and it's 3am where I am. Laters.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Sandpit said:

    Michael Gove on the prison reforms, writing in the DT:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/18/hope-is-at-the-heart-of-my-prisons-reform/
    Good stuff.

    When prisoners are released we want them to walk through the gates as better men and women, with the skills to hold down a job. That way, instead of being liabilities to society – bringing misery into the lives of others and costing the state millions – they become law-abiding, economically active assets to our country. I believe in the power of rehabilitation and redemption because I believe in the innate worth of every individual. I refuse to write anyone off and I reject the idea that we should give up on any human being.
    I see he is not going for the throw away the key vote.

    He is right though.
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    Sandpit said:

    Michael Gove on the prison reforms, writing in the DT:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/18/hope-is-at-the-heart-of-my-prisons-reform/
    Good stuff.

    When prisoners are released we want them to walk through the gates as better men and women, with the skills to hold down a job. That way, instead of being liabilities to society – bringing misery into the lives of others and costing the state millions – they become law-abiding, economically active assets to our country. I believe in the power of rehabilitation and redemption because I believe in the innate worth of every individual. I refuse to write anyone off and I reject the idea that we should give up on any human being.
    I fundamentally believe Michael Gove is a good and intelligent man. I am not in a position to extend that compliment to either Cameron or Osbourne.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,674

    MP_SE said:

    "The European Commission wants to tap streaming video services like Netflix and Amazon Prime to fund the production of European movies and TV programs, after intense lobbying by France to help protect its industry.

    A draft of the regulation obtained by POLITICO says, “member nations may require providers of on-demand audiovisual media services … to contribute financially to the production of European works.”

    On-demand-video streaming services would also have to ensure that at least 20 percent of their catalogs for EU viewers were European productions. There is currently no quota."

    http://www.politico.eu/article/amazon-prime-european-movies-commission-wants-to-hit-netflix-with-movie-tax/

    Ooh! I do hope so

    I get sick of the American dross that pads out their catalogue, as if we are just an afterthought to their real market. Bring it on!
    It's full of US TV shows to explore, then all the mediocre cultural arbiters insist that means US TV must be good. Well, maybe it just means US TV was better-promoted through the might of US capital, while the main British broadcaster is cowed into shrinking itself. So it is especially good news for the English-speaking countries, which would be unlikely to have a similar domestic service that can compete with the established American players due to the linguistic commonality. Beyond the UK there's more than enough American culture to be seen anywhere in Europe, in the cinemas, in the art galleries, on the news stands, on the TVs, and on the Internet generally as well as streaming. Thank God for the French who won't unilaterally cede the sphere of culture just because American investors are heavily backing the dissemination of its own culture.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Norm said:

    HYUFD said:

    Well it didn't take long for Neil Hamilton to embarrass UKIP did it.

    Even by UKIP standards allowing Hamilton any prominence is bizarre.

    I was thinking earlier on, assuming Remain wins, Farage stands down as UKIP Leader, and Neil Hamilton is elected as the new UKIP Leader.

    Then I thought, nah, the Tories can't be that lucky.
    Unless Remain win big ie close to 60%+ if Remain win narrowly whoever leads UKIP is likely to get a bounce
    Looking at that MORI poll I have to say Leave on 37% looks wrong. They managed 33% in 1975 when there was considerably less euroscepticism than today. It also doesn't accord with the canvassing returns that I've been made aware of (unless everybody is lying).
    I agree, having spent the evening at a meeting in fairly sceptic Rutland. I stick by Leave on 41.57

    My betting strategy is not looking good, I bought Leave at 4 on betfair thinking the odds would shorten and then go all green.

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Norm said:

    HYUFD said:

    Well it didn't take long for Neil Hamilton to embarrass UKIP did it.

    Even by UKIP standards allowing Hamilton any prominence is bizarre.

    I was thinking earlier on, assuming Remain wins, Farage stands down as UKIP Leader, and Neil Hamilton is elected as the new UKIP Leader.

    Then I thought, nah, the Tories can't be that lucky.
    Unless Remain win big ie close to 60%+ if Remain win narrowly whoever leads UKIP is likely to get a bounce
    Looking at that MORI poll I have to say Leave on 37% looks wrong. They managed 33% in 1975 when there was considerably less euroscepticism than today. It also doesn't accord with the canvassing returns that I've been made aware of (unless everybody is lying).
    I agree, having spent the evening at a meeting in fairly sceptic Rutland. I stick by Leave on 41.57

    My betting strategy is not looking good, I bought Leave at 4 on betfair thinking the odds would shorten and then go all green.

  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    edited May 2016
    Sandpit said:

    nunu said:

    Re: Manchester mayor. although the tories won't win they should be aiming for a good second after gianing three seats in the GE and holding two, although that might be the S.N.P effect.

    Who could the tories select that has a high enough profile to have a good vote (if winning is out of the question)? Please not someone like Graham Brady who only appeals to cheshire really. I suggest they learn from Ruth Davidson and try to go back to a sort of working class torism to have a chance prehaps a candiadate who is not normally associated with the tories so that they can take votes from people who would have never have voted for him/her before again like Ruth was able to do with tory votes going up like 10% in some central belt seats they didn't have a chance in (although I get that was a lot to do with the constitution question).
    Any suggestions from manchester tories on here?

    Should we persuade @TheScreamingEagles to stand?
    well if a scouser why not a yorkshireman!

    Edit: is/was his dad a pakistani bus driver?
  • Well it didn't take long for Neil Hamilton to embarrass UKIP did it.

    Even by UKIP standards allowing Hamilton any prominence is bizarre.

    Agree with you on that. his Mrs would have been a much better choice.
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944

    Well it didn't take long for Neil Hamilton to embarrass UKIP did it.

    Even by UKIP standards allowing Hamilton any prominence is bizarre.

    Agree with you on that. his Mrs would have been a much better choice.
    Yes. I like Christine. (Well, what I've seen of her)
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,709
    MP_SE said:

    "The European Commission wants to tap streaming video services like Netflix and Amazon Prime to fund the production of European movies and TV programs, after intense lobbying by France to help protect its industry.

    A draft of the regulation obtained by POLITICO says, “member nations may require providers of on-demand audiovisual media services … to contribute financially to the production of European works.”

    On-demand-video streaming services would also have to ensure that at least 20 percent of their catalogs for EU viewers were European productions. There is currently no quota."

    http://www.politico.eu/article/amazon-prime-european-movies-commission-wants-to-hit-netflix-with-movie-tax/

    This would be better phrased as "The European Commission wants *to let France do* [various stupid shit]".
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944

    MP_SE said:

    "The European Commission wants to tap streaming video services like Netflix and Amazon Prime to fund the production of European movies and TV programs, after intense lobbying by France to help protect its industry.

    A draft of the regulation obtained by POLITICO says, “member nations may require providers of on-demand audiovisual media services … to contribute financially to the production of European works.”

    On-demand-video streaming services would also have to ensure that at least 20 percent of their catalogs for EU viewers were European productions. There is currently no quota."

    http://www.politico.eu/article/amazon-prime-european-movies-commission-wants-to-hit-netflix-with-movie-tax/

    This would be better phrased as "The European Commission wants *to let France do* [various stupid shit]".
    Quite, and therein lies one of the biggest problem of the EU
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    New FOX poll putting Trump +3 nationally...

    FOX
    5/14 - 5/17
    1,021 Registered Voters
    C42 T45

    Getting interesting...
  • VapidBilgeVapidBilge Posts: 412

    Did someone really try to claim that wages are rising rapidly this morning ?

    From the ONS:

    ' Between January to March 2015 and January to March 2016, in nominal terms, total pay increased by 2.0%, little changed compared with the growth rate between the 3 months to February 2015 and the 3 months to February 2016 (1.9%). '

    By comparison annual RPI in March was 1.6%.

    I'm sure we can all do the maths.

    During the last decade annual real wages growth (using RPI) has been an average of -0.8% per year ie a reduction. The three decades before that had average annual increases in real wages of 2.0% (1997-2006), 2.2% (1987-1996) and 2.1% (1977-1986) with a mighty 3.4 annual average between 1967 and 1976.

    How much the decade long fall in real wages that Britain has suffered is a result of immigration, of more general effects of globalisation or in changes in the structure of the UK economy needs to be researched at a much more in depth level than I am ever going to do.

    But what is without question is that there has been a shift in economic power from those who work to those who own.

    Well, I thought there was a reason that tax credits rose from £4bn to £31bn!
  • PlankPlank Posts: 71
    fpt
    @casino_royal

    When Hilary is confirmed at the Democratic conference I will win approximately a months wages. With Donald's confirmation I will win two months. Most will be folded into my betting 'bank' for future bets, but a local charity that helps an politically unfashionable group in desperate and genuine need will also get a fat cheque. My point is that if you have an understanding of politics you can still put it to good use even if you feel it is all going wrong and given up trying to change it.

    Failing that I have just bottled some cracking wine made out of Aldi fresh apple juice. I can save you a bottle for June 24th.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,932

    Did someone really try to claim that wages are rising rapidly this morning ?

    From the ONS:

    ' Between January to March 2015 and January to March 2016, in nominal terms, total pay increased by 2.0%, little changed compared with the growth rate between the 3 months to February 2015 and the 3 months to February 2016 (1.9%). '

    By comparison annual RPI in March was 1.6%.

    I'm sure we can all do the maths.

    During the last decade annual real wages growth (using RPI) has been an average of -0.8% per year ie a reduction. The three decades before that had average annual increases in real wages of 2.0% (1997-2006), 2.2% (1987-1996) and 2.1% (1977-1986) with a mighty 3.4 annual average between 1967 and 1976.

    How much the decade long fall in real wages that Britain has suffered is a result of immigration, of more general effects of globalisation or in changes in the structure of the UK economy needs to be researched at a much more in depth level than I am ever going to do.

    But what is without question is that there has been a shift in economic power from those who work to those who own.

    One of the main reasons I am voting leave though there are many others.

    Have you got links? I'd like to put that (or something like it) on my blog.
    Annual earnings increases by month from Jan 1964 to Dec 2000:

    http://web.ons.gov.uk/ons/datasets-and-tables/data-selector.html?cdid=MD9S&dataset=emp&table-id=AWE17

    For Jan 2001 onwards you need to download a spreadsheet from here:

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/datasets/summaryoflabourmarketstatistics

    Annual RPI increases here:

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/timeseries/czbh
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,937

    MP_SE said:

    "The European Commission wants to tap streaming video services like Netflix and Amazon Prime to fund the production of European movies and TV programs, after intense lobbying by France to help protect its industry.

    A draft of the regulation obtained by POLITICO says, “member nations may require providers of on-demand audiovisual media services … to contribute financially to the production of European works.”

    On-demand-video streaming services would also have to ensure that at least 20 percent of their catalogs for EU viewers were European productions. There is currently no quota."

    http://www.politico.eu/article/amazon-prime-european-movies-commission-wants-to-hit-netflix-with-movie-tax/

    This would be better phrased as "The European Commission wants *to let France do* [various stupid shit]".
    If Whittingdale had a bit more nous that could have been the new BBC funding model. :)
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,937
    edited May 2016
    RodCrosby said:

    New FOX poll putting Trump +3 nationally...

    FOX
    5/14 - 5/17
    1,021 Registered Voters
    C42 T45

    Getting interesting...

    We'll probably get the first crossover in the polling averages before the conventions... Clinton's staff must think it's a nightmare.
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944

    Did someone really try to claim that wages are rising rapidly this morning ?

    From the ONS:

    ' Between January to March 2015 and January to March 2016, in nominal terms, total pay increased by 2.0%, little changed compared with the growth rate between the 3 months to February 2015 and the 3 months to February 2016 (1.9%). '

    By comparison annual RPI in March was 1.6%.

    I'm sure we can all do the maths.

    During the last decade annual real wages growth (using RPI) has been an average of -0.8% per year ie a reduction. The three decades before that had average annual increases in real wages of 2.0% (1997-2006), 2.2% (1987-1996) and 2.1% (1977-1986) with a mighty 3.4 annual average between 1967 and 1976.

    How much the decade long fall in real wages that Britain has suffered is a result of immigration, of more general effects of globalisation or in changes in the structure of the UK economy needs to be researched at a much more in depth level than I am ever going to do.

    But what is without question is that there has been a shift in economic power from those who work to those who own.

    One of the main reasons I am voting leave though there are many others.

    Have you got links? I'd like to put that (or something like it) on my blog.
    Annual earnings increases by month from Jan 1964 to Dec 2000:

    http://web.ons.gov.uk/ons/datasets-and-tables/data-selector.html?cdid=MD9S&dataset=emp&table-id=AWE17

    For Jan 2001 onwards you need to download a spreadsheet from here:

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/datasets/summaryoflabourmarketstatistics

    Annual RPI increases here:

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/timeseries/czbh
    Many thanks. The economic case for leaving the EU is clear! Do you mind if I plagiarise your words?
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    RodCrosby said:

    New FOX poll putting Trump +3 nationally...

    FOX
    5/14 - 5/17
    1,021 Registered Voters
    C42 T45

    Getting interesting...

    We'll probably get the first crossover in the polling averages before the conventions... Clinton' staff must think it's a nightmare.
    Her 30-day median lead is down 2% in barely a week...

    Seems Trump has the Big Mo'
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,937
    RodCrosby said:

    RodCrosby said:

    New FOX poll putting Trump +3 nationally...

    FOX
    5/14 - 5/17
    1,021 Registered Voters
    C42 T45

    Getting interesting...

    We'll probably get the first crossover in the polling averages before the conventions... Clinton' staff must think it's a nightmare.
    Her 30-day median lead is down 2% in barely a week...

    Seems Trump has the Big Mo'
    As you said, at some point President Trump will assume an air of inevitability. At that point it's difficult to make the case that electing a corrupt old has-been is the more compelling future for America.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    oh damn! did you sign it?
  • MyBurningEarsMyBurningEars Posts: 3,651

    To be honest I feel the podcasts are perhaps more for a wider public who might be drawn into PB (and nothing wrong with that). This one didn't really say anything that hasn't already been said quite a bit in the comments - all perfectly sensible, but nothing deeper-going than what we routinely chew over.

    To the extent that this is true, it's only because PB's comment section is miles ahead of the "below the line" section of the vast majority of websites - in fact, often ahead of the "above the line", albeit with a somewhat dilutes signal-to-noise ratio.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,932

    Did someone really try to claim that wages are rising rapidly this morning ?

    From the ONS:

    ' Between January to March 2015 and January to March 2016, in nominal terms, total pay increased by 2.0%, little changed compared with the growth rate between the 3 months to February 2015 and the 3 months to February 2016 (1.9%). '

    By comparison annual RPI in March was 1.6%.

    I'm sure we can all do the maths.

    During the last decade annual real wages growth (using RPI) has been an average of -0.8% per year ie a reduction. The three decades before that had average annual increases in real wages of 2.0% (1997-2006), 2.2% (1987-1996) and 2.1% (1977-1986) with a mighty 3.4 annual average between 1967 and 1976.

    How much the decade long fall in real wages that Britain has suffered is a result of immigration, of more general effects of globalisation or in changes in the structure of the UK economy needs to be researched at a much more in depth level than I am ever going to do.

    But what is without question is that there has been a shift in economic power from those who work to those who own.

    One of the main reasons I am voting leave though there are many others.

    Have you got links? I'd like to put that (or something like it) on my blog.
    Annual earnings increases by month from Jan 1964 to Dec 2000:

    http://web.ons.gov.uk/ons/datasets-and-tables/data-selector.html?cdid=MD9S&dataset=emp&table-id=AWE17

    For Jan 2001 onwards you need to download a spreadsheet from here:

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/datasets/summaryoflabourmarketstatistics

    Annual RPI increases here:

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/timeseries/czbh
    Many thanks. The economic case for leaving the EU is clear! Do you mind if I plagiarise your words?
    No problem, feel free.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,171
    nunu said:

    oh damn! did you sign it?
    Arf! Mayors are typically voted into office via an election, but maybe the powers that be will make an exception! :p
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    RobD said:

    nunu said:

    oh damn! did you sign it?
    Arf! Mayors are typically voted into office via an election, but maybe the powers that be will make an exception! :p
    Lets get some momentum behind this and wake the tory party up!

    momentum as in the physical force not the hard left loonies!
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    nunu said:

    RobD said:

    nunu said:

    oh damn! did you sign it?
    Arf! Mayors are typically voted into office via an election, but maybe the powers that be will make an exception! :p
    Lets get some momentum behind this and wake the tory party up!

    momentum as in the physical force not the hard left loonies!
    c'mon tse sign the petition!
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,709

    MP_SE said:

    "The European Commission wants to tap streaming video services like Netflix and Amazon Prime to fund the production of European movies and TV programs, after intense lobbying by France to help protect its industry.

    A draft of the regulation obtained by POLITICO says, “member nations may require providers of on-demand audiovisual media services … to contribute financially to the production of European works.”

    On-demand-video streaming services would also have to ensure that at least 20 percent of their catalogs for EU viewers were European productions. There is currently no quota."

    http://www.politico.eu/article/amazon-prime-european-movies-commission-wants-to-hit-netflix-with-movie-tax/

    This would be better phrased as "The European Commission wants *to let France do* [various stupid shit]".
    Quite, and therein lies one of the biggest problem of the EU
    Well it lets member states do a lot of stupid shit in their own territories as long as it doesn't harm other member states too much, but I think that's better than trying to decide everything itself.
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    Does the German court's injunction against publication of the poem "Erdowie, Erdowo, Erdoğan" by Jan Böhmermann, apply only to Böhmermann himself, or is it a general injuction covering everybody in Germany? Either way, hopefully the Streisand Effect will come into full force over the next few days and weeks throughout Germany and beyond.

    Sackdoof, feige und verklemmt,
    Ist Erdogan, der Präsident
    Sein Gelöt stinkt schlimm nach Döner,
    Selbst ein Schweinefurz riecht schöner.
    Er ist der Mann, der Mädchen schlägt
    Und dabei Gummimasken trägt.
    Am liebsten mag er Ziegen ficken
    Und Minderheiten unterdrücken.
    Kurden treten, Christen hauen
    Und dabei Kinderpornos schauen.
    Und selbst abends heißt’s statt schlafen
    Fellatio mit hundert Schafen.
    Ja, Erdogan ist voll und ganz
    Ein Präsident mit kleinem Schwanz.
    Jeden Türken hört man flöten,
    Die dumme Sau hat Schrumpelklöten.
    Von Ankara bis Istanbul
    Weiß jedermann, dieser Mann ist schwul,
    Pervers, verlaust und zoophil,
    Recep, Fritzl, Priklopil.
    Sein Kopf so leer wie seine Eier,
    Der Star auf jeder Gangbangfeier,
    Bis der Schwanz beim Pinkeln brennt.
    Das ist Recep Erdogan, der türkische Präsident.
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    Plane flying from Paris to Egypt disappears from radar, just inside Egyptian airspace, with 69 people on board

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-36309492
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    Speculation of missile from Syria or Libya in Le Monde
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    HYUFD said:

    Fox News National (mind you it is Fox)

    Trump 45 Clinton 42

    Trump 42 Sanders 46
    https://twitter.com/foxnews

    Fox's polling has never been particularly biased to the GOP or against Obama, strangely enough.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Plank said:

    fpt
    @casino_royal

    When Hilary is confirmed at the Democratic conference I will win approximately a months wages. With Donald's confirmation I will win two months. Most will be folded into my betting 'bank' for future bets, but a local charity that helps an politically unfashionable group in desperate and genuine need will also get a fat cheque. My point is that if you have an understanding of politics you can still put it to good use even if you feel it is all going wrong and given up trying to change it.

    Failing that I have just bottled some cracking wine made out of Aldi fresh apple juice. I can save you a bottle for June 24th.

    You should rename yourself PLONK, @Plank. ;)
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    edited May 2016
    God, I'm up early today; I must be mad. Back to bed then. :)
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,628
    edited May 2016
    Not good. 4 hours overdue now. A320, 69 people on board. Crew given as including three airline security officers, which is notable.

    http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/579183-egyptair-804-disappears-radar-paris-cairo.html << pilots' forum, usually good at finding information quickly in these circumstances.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,171

    Speculation of missile from Syria or Libya in Le Monde

    Do they have the range?
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