so if we vote to stay out we are stupid...right got it.
The Anglosphere/Commonwealth want us to Remain.
They are wise.
Australia's most successful PM for decades was John Howard who is backing Leave. So that's not really the case is it?
Since the people and parliamentarians of Australia decided that the estimable John Winston Howard no longer speaks for them, then yes, it really is the case. There's only one head of government at a time.
From memory, Turnbull (present PM), and past PMs Rudd, Gillard and (interestingly) Abbott are all REMAINs. Abbott is interesting because if memory serves, he is a personal friend of Daniel Hannan. The two have been growing apart since Abbott distanced himself from the concept of the Anglosphere (a stance which Hannan found baffling whilst the rest of us went "duh").
Personally I will not rest until Harold Holt towels himself off and tells us where he stands...
'if anyone ever said a Muslim country should not exist'
No need for the 'if' when it comes to Palestine or Kurdistan or Northern Cyprus.
Well, the UN voted for a Palestine to come into existence in the late 1940's. There was even land allocated. It was...er.....the then Palestinians who refused. Perhaps there is no Palestinian phrase for "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush".
The Kurds do deserve a state I agree, much like the Poles in 19th century Europe. It is realpolitik which has prevented them getting one.
Perhaps like the blacks in South Africa when the apartheid land acts came in they didn't see why they should vacate the homes they had lived in for generations?
Perhaps so. But something is better than nothing. And by going for broke they lost everything, other than those who stayed and are now Arab Israeli citizens.
That is why I have said that it is a tragedy that Palestinians have been so badly led.
Some say badly led some say abused. I can strongly recommend 'The Unholy Land' if you are interested in the history of '48 and beyond.
PS Hope you enjoyed New York.
Is the title "Holy Land, Unholy War" by Anton La Guardia?
No. The Unholy Land by Marion Woolfson. Quite a few years old
Thank you. It seems to be out of print or at least not available on Amazon. But will do a secondhand search.
Miss Cyclefree, when I go for second hand stuff, online, I tend to use AbeBooks. Might be worth a look (unless you have a local second hand shop, of course).
Mr. Thompson, perhaps. Still got months to go yet. I may change my mind.
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Feel free to tell him he's a bullshitting liar to his face (or even on Twitter).
He was a former Labour candidate in Newark. He is a party man to his core.
'He left the Party after the decision to go to war in Iraq in 2003 and is now non-affiliated.'
So to the left of Labour? Possibly at home with Corbyn's Labour.
Feck knows, unlike telepathic PBers I've only got the man's own words and Wiki to go on.
Seems like until quite recently we were being told that Greeny Goldsmith would be appealing to the non-affiliated, moderates and centrists, until he was Lynton-ed. How quickly things change.
'if anyone ever said a Muslim country should not exist'
No need for the 'if' when it comes to Palestine or Kurdistan or Northern Cyprus.
Well, the UN voted for a Palestine to come into existence in the late 1940's. There was even land allocated. It was...er.....the then Palestinians who refused. Perhaps there is no Palestinian phrase for "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush".
The Kurds do deserve a state I agree, much like the Poles in 19th century Europe. It is realpolitik which has prevented them getting one.
Perhaps like the blacks in South Africa when the apartheid land acts came in they didn't see why they should vacate the homes they had lived in for generations?
Perhaps so. But something is better than nothing. And by going for broke they lost everything, other than those who stayed and are now Arab Israeli citizens.
That is why I have said that it is a tragedy that Palestinians have been so badly led.
Some say badly led some say abused. I can strongly recommend 'The Unholy Land' if you are interested in the history of '48 and beyond.
PS Hope you enjoyed New York.
Thank you. I will look it out.
I enjoyed the first few days very much - the city looked lovely, the weather was fine and enjoyed a wonderful lunch at a harbourside restaurant but then was hospitalised with a bad asthma attack and suspected long clot, which was not in the plan....
I'm glad to be home.
Sheesh, Mrs Free, but are you OK now? I sure hope so.
P.S. When you went abroad did you put your cat into gaol? I only ask because I have a sneaking suspicion that the Cat Gods have a way of punishing those that go away on holiday without making what they (the Gods) consider adequate provision for their cat's welfare and well being.
It can't have been the Cat God because the cats were being spoilt rotten by the Junior Cyclefree and his father. They didn't even notice my absence. I don't know about the cats.
I did miss most of a tedious conference so maybe it was God's way of telling me that I should spend more of my time in restaurants with interesting people and less of my time in windowless rooms with flip charts. Obviously a sensible policy though the mode of communication left much to be desired.
I also have to go back and see more doctors which is a bore, after having spent more than enough time with them last year.
At the risk of enraging Dr Foxinsox, one of the English people there did say that I was lucky not to be having this in England in the middle of an all out doctors' strike.
On topic, at the risk of renaming myself "I told you so" some of us pointed out months ago the risks of Labour being seen as the terrorists' party. This is a risk which has been brewing for some time and has come to a head because of Livingstone's repulsive comments. But if not him, it would have been something else.
But this is not just about him. Until Labour rediscover what liberal principles are and what they mean - and the Far Left groupuscules who are now in charge are not and never have been liberal and despise everything about it - they will be stuck in this poisonous cul de sac where their leading politicians seek to defend themselves by relying on the works of revisionist historians who manipulate and falsify the historical evidence.
They show no signs of doing so: la-la-we-can't-hear-you-it's-all-a-plot seems to be the reaction now. It will take something truly awful, I fear, for them to wake up and that will likely involve the suffering of innocents.
The Tories quite rightly accused Labour of cosying up to terrorists. We just didn't expect those murderers to be Hitler and the Nazis!
Perhaps Corbynites are just trying to unite the twin forces of socialism? International socialists and National socialists?
indeed. The world forgets Hitler called himself a socialist. So did Pol Pot, Stalin- brutal murderers, mental Lefties.
I don't think that the world forgets Hitler was put in power by arch conservatives and nationalists such as Franz von Papen and Alfred Hugenberg.
The lefty (Roger, Roger) cry that the storm over anti-semitism has just been whipped up by political opponents with an agenda is nonsense. Mind you, it is true that Labour's disappointing performance in the 2015 General Election was whipped up by political opponents with an agenda ....
I liked Zac Goldsmith and had high hopes for him in the Tory party but the way he has run his election campaign here with the never ending smears had been quite disgraceful.
Seems out of character for Zac. I suspect he is being held 'prisoner' by Crosby and his aides who have decided the strategy.
Best have a look at the media. Search: Livingstone and bigot
Labour desperately trying to equate Goldsmith's valid questions about Sadiq Khan with bigotry of the Naz and Ken level is laughable. The inability of the 'new nasty party' to show some level of self-awareness this week has been very worrying. I think if I was Jewish I'd be pretty nervous to be in the UK right now.
Indeed. Diane Abbott this morning on Marr was pure theatre. Even he was exasperated.
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Sorry - it doesn't get much lower than Zac I'm afraid - he's going to lose and that'll be well deserved. He's played identify politics to the max (e.g. I've had targeted mailshots in Tamil for example talking about issues concerning 'my community').
Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
None of the most popular comments on this article on Section 28 seems to regard it as a "pernicious" piece of legislation .... I'm not sure the majority of the country have taken up the fully required PC view:
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Sorry - it doesn't get much lower than Zac I'm afraid - he's going to lose and that'll be well deserved. He's played identify politics to the max (e.g. I've had targeted mailshots in Tamil for example talking about issues concerning 'my community').
Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
What exactly are 'the English'? Can Jews 'be English'?
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Sorry - it doesn't get much lower than Zac I'm afraid - he's going to lose and that'll be well deserved. He's played identify politics to the max (e.g. I've had targeted mailshots in Tamil for example talking about issues concerning 'my community').
Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
What exactly are 'the English'? Can Jews 'be English'?
The Labour MP targets voters by nationality typically not religion except for Muslims. The main ones in our area would be Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi, Polish and Greek to a lesser extent. They get an invite to the House of Commons and she gets a native who is a Labour politician to talk in their language about the virtues of well, HER. Luckily they invited my Father in law so I went as his Plus 1. All the Labour politicians know me well and they hated me being there. It really is abuse of the 'House'
On topic, at the risk of renaming myself "I told you so" some of us pointed out months ago the risks of Labour being seen as the terrorists' party. This is a risk which has been brewing for some time and has come to a head because of Livingstone's repulsive comments. But if not him, it would have been something else.
But this is not just about him. Until Labour rediscover what liberal principles are and what they mean - and the Far Left groupuscules who are now in charge are not and never have been liberal and despise everything about it - they will be stuck in this poisonous cul de sac where their leading politicians seek to defend themselves by relying on the works of revisionist historians who manipulate and falsify the historical evidence.
They show no signs of doing so: la-la-we-can't-hear-you-it's-all-a-plot seems to be the reaction now. It will take something truly awful, I fear, for them to wake up and that will likely involve the suffering of innocents.
The Tories quite rightly accused Labour of cosying up to terrorists. We just didn't expect those murderers to be Hitler and the Nazis!
Perhaps Corbynites are just trying to unite the twin forces of socialism? International socialists and National socialists?
indeed. The world forgets Hitler called himself a socialist. So did Pol Pot, Stalin- brutal murderers, mental Lefties.
I don't think that the world forgets Hitler was put in power by arch conservatives and nationalists such as Franz von Papen and Alfred Hugenberg.
And I don't think he ever won an election!
He never won a majority - indeed the Nazis lost ground in the last set of Reichstag elections in 1932.
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Sorry - it doesn't get much lower than Zac I'm afraid - he's going to lose and that'll be well deserved. He's played identify politics to the max (e.g. I've had targeted mailshots in Tamil for example talking about issues concerning 'my community').
Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
What exactly are 'the English'? Can Jews 'be English'?
Roger: Can Jews 'be English'?
Well, most have been here longer than other minorities, and, in contrast to muslims, they all speak English, don't have their womenfolk kitted out in bin-liners, don't send recruits to Syria, and don't require 24/7 surveillance by our security services.
'if anyone ever said a Muslim country should not exist'
No need for the 'if' when it comes to Palestine or Kurdistan or Northern Cyprus.
Well, the UN voted for a Palestine to come into existence in the late 1940's. There was even land allocated. It was...er.....the then Palestinians who refused. Perhaps there is no Palestinian phrase for "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush".
The Kurds do deserve a state I agree, much like the Poles in 19th century Europe. It is realpolitik which has prevented them getting one.
Perhaps like the blacks in South Africa when the apartheid land acts came in they didn't see why they should vacate the homes they had lived in for generations?
Perhaps so. But something is better
Some say badly led some say abused. I can strongly recommend 'The Unholy Land' if you are interested in the history of '48 and beyond.
PS Hope you enjoyed New York.
Thank you. I will look it out.
I'm glad to be home.
Sheesh, Mrs Free, but are you OK now? I sure hope so.
P.S
It can't have been the Cat God because the cats were being spoilt rotten by the Junior Cyclefree and his father. They didn't even notice my absence. I don't know about the cats.
I did miss most of a tedious conference so maybe it was God's way of telling me that I should spend more of my time in restaurants with interesting people and less of my time in windowless rooms with flip charts. Obviously a sensible policy though the mode of communication left much to be desired.
I also have to go back and see more doctors which is a bore, after having spent more than enough time with them last year.
At the risk of enraging Dr Foxinsox, one of the English people there did say that I was lucky not to be having this in England in the middle of an all out doctors' strike.
I don't do enraged ;-) I am the very model of a phlegmatic Briton.
During the strike you would have been fine, as would have seen an experienced Consultant from the start rather than a junior doctor, and the time for investigations was a lot shorter too because there was little elective work. Waiting times were significantly shorter in the strike.
Mind you in August the staffing crisis will build as about 20% of Emergency Training slots, and junior Physicians are vacant, even before the new contract hits...
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Sorry - it doesn't get much lower than Zac I'm afraid - he's going to lose and that'll be well deserved. He's played identify politics to the max (e.g. I've had targeted mailshots in Tamil for example talking about issues concerning 'my community').
Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
What exactly are 'the English'? Can Jews 'be English'?
The Labour MP targets voters by nationality typically not religion except for Muslims. The main ones in our area would be Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi, Polish and Greek to a lesser extent. They get an invite to the House of Commons and she gets a native who is a Labour politician to talk in their language about the virtues of well, HER. Luckily they invited my Father in law so I went as his Plus 1. All the Labour politicians know me well and they hated me being there. It really is abuse of the 'House'
That's impressively open-minded of your MP, focusing on people whose nationality means they can't vote in a UK GE. The Poles and Greeks must be very grateful. And out of interest, how can you tell which of these voters qualify by virtue of their commonwealth citizenship rather than because they are British nationals?
On topic, at the risk of renaming myself "I told you so" some of us pointed out months ago the risks of Labour being seen as the terrorists' party. This is a risk which has been brewing for some time and has come to a head because of Livingstone's repulsive comments. But if not him, it would have been something else.
But this is not just about him. Until Labour rediscover what liberal principles are and what they mean - and the Far Left groupuscules who are now in charge are not and never have been liberal and despise everything about it - they will be stuck in this poisonous cul de sac where their leading politicians seek to defend themselves by relying on the works of revisionist historians who manipulate and falsify the historical evidence.
They show no signs of doing so: la-la-we-can't-hear-you-it's-all-a-plot seems to be the reaction now. It will take something truly awful, I fear, for them to wake up and that will likely involve the suffering of innocents.
The Tories quite rightly accused Labour of cosying up to terrorists. We just didn't expect those murderers to be Hitler and the Nazis!
Perhaps Corbynites are just trying to unite the twin forces of socialism? International socialists and National socialists?
indeed. The world forgets Hitler called himself a socialist. So did Pol Pot, Stalin- brutal murderers, mental Lefties.
I don't think that the world forgets Hitler was put in power by arch conservatives and nationalists such as Franz von Papen and Alfred Hugenberg.
And I don't think he ever won an election!
He never won a majority - indeed the Nazis lost ground in the last set of Reichstag elections in 1932.
So there was Ken Livingstone, backing an unelected man like Adolf, appointed by a group of charlatans!
These are the council seats Labour is defending this year against the Conservatives up to a swing of 10%. If the polls and Rallings&Thrasher are right, the party could lose most of these:
Andy Many thanks for link, did you create it do you know where it came from? I would be fascinated to see if there is an equivalent with LD - Lab marginal seats on it?
Of course I created it, no-one else wastes their time doing this sort of thing for free. (!) (Only joking). I've also got a spreadsheet prepared for all of the council results.
I really don't think this anti semitism issue is going to make much difference longer term, the Jewish vote is increasingly leaning Tory anyway, the Muslim vote Labour and they are the ones who most care about it
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Sorry - it doesn't get much lower than Zac I'm afraid - he's going to lose and that'll be well deserved. He's played identify politics to the max (e.g. I've had targeted mailshots in Tamil for example talking about issues concerning 'my community').
Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
What exactly are 'the English'? Can Jews 'be English'?
Roger: Can Jews 'be English'?
Well, most have been here longer than other minorities, and, in contrast to muslims, they all speak English, don't have their womenfolk kitted out in bin-liners, don't send recruits to Syria, and don't require 24/7 surveillance by our security services.
PB comments's commitment to anti-religious hatred lasted about 27 hours after Livingstone's screed before the "deport the bin-liner terrorists" chat started again.
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Sorry - it doesn't get much lower than Zac I'm afraid - he's going to lose and that'll be well deserved. He's played identify politics to the max (e.g. I've had targeted mailshots in Tamil for example talking about issues concerning 'my community').
Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
What exactly are 'the English'? Can Jews 'be English'?
Roger: Can Jews 'be English'?
Well, most have been here longer than other minorities, and, in contrast to muslims, they all speak English, don't have their womenfolk kitted out in bin-liners, don't send recruits to Syria, and don't require 24/7 surveillance by our security services.
I don't particularly care about the casual racism of people like yourself but surely your hypocrisy must embarrass you?
NBC/WSJ, which usually overstates Cruz and understates Trump, has Indiana as Trump 49 to Cruz on 34. Can Trump win every county as he did on Tuesday? Interestingly their GE match-up has Trump 48 to Clinton 41. Of course polls this far out have limited meaning, see George HW Bush v Dukakis, but the direction of travel and closeness of the polls must be worrying the Democrats.
PPP reporting initial polling in WV showing Trump plus 60%, should in the 70s there.
The direction of travel? Romney beat Obama by 11% in Indiana in 2012 and he lost nationally by 3%, so if Trump is only beating Hillary by 7% in Indiana that is encouraging for Democrats as it suggests Hillary is beating Trump by more than Obama beat Romney https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Indiana,_2012
Vince Cable hasn't really said what's being reported, has he? If there's anything which would boost support for Brexit, saying that a 51% vote for Leave wouldn't be accepted by the Establishment is it.
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Sorry - it doesn't get much lower than Zac I'm afraid - he's going to lose and that'll be well deserved. He's played identify politics to the max (e.g. I've had targeted mailshots in Tamil for example talking about issues concerning 'my community').
Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
What exactly are 'the English'? Can Jews 'be English'?
Roger: Can Jews 'be English'?
Well, most have been here longer than other minorities, and, in contrast to muslims, they all speak English, don't have their womenfolk kitted out in bin-liners, don't send recruits to Syria, and don't require 24/7 surveillance by our security services.
I don't particularly care about the casual racism of people like yourself but surely your hypocrisy must embarrass you?
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Sorry - it doesn't get much lower than Zac I'm afraid - he's going to lose and that'll be well deserved. He's played identify politics to the max (e.g. I've had targeted mailshots in Tamil for example talking about issues concerning 'my community').
Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
What exactly are 'the English'? Can Jews 'be English'?
Roger: Can Jews 'be English'?
Well, most have been here longer than other minorities, and, in contrast to muslims, they all speak English, don't have their womenfolk kitted out in bin-liners, don't send recruits to Syria, and don't require 24/7 surveillance by our security services.
PB comments's commitment to anti-religious hatred lasted about 27 hours after Livingstone's screed before the "deport the bin-liner terrorists" chat started again.
Yes, because one individual or a few individuals is everyone, apparently.
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Sorry - it doesn't get much lower than Zac I'm afraid - he's going to lose and that'll be well deserved. He's played identify politics to the max (e.g. I've had targeted mailshots in Tamil for example talking about issues concerning 'my community').
Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
What exactly are 'the English'? Can Jews 'be English'?
Roger: Can Jews 'be English'?
Well, most have been here longer than other minorities, and, in contrast to muslims, they all speak English, don't have their womenfolk kitted out in bin-liners, don't send recruits to Syria, and don't require 24/7 surveillance by our security services.
I don't particularly care about the casual racism of people like yourself but surely your hypocrisy must embarrass you?
How many Jews go out to Syria to join IS?
How many Muslims undertake illegal settlement building in Israel/Palestine? It's (fairly) described as anti-Semitic, ie racist, to blame "Jews" for that so surely the same standard applies when talking about "Muslims" and IS. Even before we get onto bin liners.
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Sorry - it doesn't get much lower than Zac I'm afraid - he's going to lose and that'll be well deserved. He's played identify politics to the max (e.g. I've had targeted mailshots in Tamil for example talking about issues concerning 'my community').
Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
What exactly are 'the English'? Can Jews 'be English'?
Roger: Can Jews 'be English'?
Well, most have been here longer than other minorities, and, in contrast to muslims, they all speak English, don't have their womenfolk kitted out in bin-liners, don't send recruits to Syria, and don't require 24/7 surveillance by our security services.
I don't particularly care about the casual racism of people like yourself but surely your hypocrisy must embarrass you?
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Sorry - it doesn't get much lower than Zac I'm afraid - he's going to lose and that'll be well deserved. He's played identify politics to the max (e.g. I've had targeted mailshots in Tamil for example talking about issues concerning 'my community').
Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
What exactly are 'the English'? Can Jews 'be English'?
Roger: Can Jews 'be English'?
Well, most have been here longer than other minorities, and, in contrast to muslims, they all speak English, don't have their womenfolk kitted out in bin-liners, don't send recruits to Syria, and don't require 24/7 surveillance by our security services.
I don't particularly care about the casual racism of people like yourself but surely your hypocrisy must embarrass you?
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
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Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
What exactly are 'the English'? Can Jews 'be English'?
Roger: Can Jews 'be English'?
Well, most have been here longer than other minorities, and, in contrast to muslims, they all speak English, don't have their womenfolk kitted out in bin-liners, don't send recruits to Syria, and don't require 24/7 surveillance by our security services.
I don't particularly care about the casual racism of people like yourself but surely your hypocrisy must embarrass you?
Vince Cable hasn't really said what's being reported, has he? If there's anything which would boost support for Brexit, saying that a 51% vote for Leave wouldn't be accepted by the Establishment is it.
He hasn't said much that is different to BoJo, who suggested that there may be a second referendum. Indeed that may well be the only way of resolving EFTA vs Completely Out.
A good week for me in the FF. I brought in Mane and put Darlow in goal in place of Hart. It will be interesting to see how Spurs get on with Saints next week, if they get past Chelsea...
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Sorry - it doesn't get much lower than Zac I'm afraid - he's going to lose and that'll be well deserved. He's played identify politics to the max (e.g. I've had targeted mailshots in Tamil for example talking about issues concerning 'my community').
Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
What exactly are 'the English'? Can Jews 'be English'?
Roger: Can Jews 'be English'?
Well, most have been here longer than other minorities, and, in contrast to muslims, they all speak English, don't have their womenfolk kitted out in bin-liners, don't send recruits to Syria, and don't require 24/7 surveillance by our security services.
I don't particularly care about the casual racism of people like yourself but surely your hypocrisy must embarrass you?
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Sorry - it doesn't get much lower than Zac I'm afraid - he's going to lose and that'll be well deserved. He's played identify politics to the max (e.g. I've had targeted mailshots in Tamil for example talking about issues concerning 'my community').
Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
What exactly are 'the English'? Can Jews 'be English'?
Roger: Can Jews 'be English'?
Well, most have been here longer than other minorities, and, in contrast to muslims, they all speak English, don't have their womenfolk kitted out in bin-liners, don't send recruits to Syria, and don't require 24/7 surveillance by our security services.
I don't particularly care about the casual racism of people like yourself but surely your hypocrisy must embarrass you?
How many Jews go out to Syria to join IS?
I'm not sure what you mean by that non sequitur? It's interesting that Mark Regev-ex propaganda chief of Likud- can say the British Labour Party have 'crossed the line' when the deputy speaker of the Knesset advocates genocide
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Sorry - it doesn't get much lower than Zac I'm afraid - he's going to lose and that'll be well deserved. He's played identify politics to the max (e.g. I've had targeted mailshots in Tamil for example talking about issues concerning 'my community').
Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
What exactly are 'the English'? Can Jews 'be English'?
Roger: Can Jews 'be English'?
Well, most have been here longer than other minorities, and, in contrast to muslims, they all speak English, don't have their womenfolk kitted out in bin-liners, don't send recruits to Syria, and don't require 24/7 surveillance by our security services.
I don't particularly care about the casual racism of people like yourself but surely your hypocrisy must embarrass you?
How many Jews go out to Syria to join IS?
I'm not sure what you mean by that non sequitur? It's interesting that Mark Regev-ex propaganda chief of Likud- can say the British Labour Party have 'crossed the line' when the deputy speaker of the Knesset advocates genocide
New Jersey: 51 delegates Montana: 0 delegates South Dakota: 0 delegates New Mexico: 12 delegates
Subtotal: 63 delegates taking Trump to 1121.
Trump would thereby require 116 in California to avoid a contested Convention. Current polls have him higher. Trump can rely on a further 40 delegates, at least, to avoid a brokered convention.
Bull shit moore would vote for any tory. He is left wing labour, has been forever & very open about his politics.
Sorry - it doesn't get much lower than Zac I'm afraid - he's going to lose and that'll be well deserved. He's played identify politics to the max (e.g. I've had targeted mailshots in Tamil for example talking about issues concerning 'my community').
Tories learnt that from Labour, who have been doing it for years. Local Labour MP even invites whole communities to the 'House.' never the English mind, we don't count.
What exactly are 'the English'? Can Jews 'be English'?
Roger: Can Jews 'be English'?
Well, most have been here longer than other minorities, and, in contrast to muslims, they all speak English, don't have their womenfolk kitted out in bin-liners, don't send recruits to Syria, and don't require 24/7 surveillance by our security services.
I don't particularly care about the casual racism of people like yourself but surely your hypocrisy must embarrass you?
How many Jews go out to Syria to join IS?
I'm not sure what you mean by that non sequitur? It's interesting that Mark Regev-ex propaganda chief of Likud- can say the British Labour Party have 'crossed the line' when the deputy speaker of the Knesset advocates genocide
Might have shared a platform with him though. Or failed to condemn the comments. Or provided cover, or oxygen, or whatever the correct fuckwitted smear would be these days.
New Jersey: 51 delegates Montana: 0 delegates South Dakota: 0 delegates New Mexico: 12 delegates
Subtotal: 63 delegates taking Trump to 1121.
Trump would thereby require 116 in California to avoid a contested Convention. Current polls have him higher. Trump can rely on a further 40 delegates, at least, to avoid a brokered convention.
There is a growing sense of inevitability about it now. And there is always a group of people who like to be seen backing the winner - which will drive a few more into the Trump column
New Jersey: 51 delegates Montana: 0 delegates South Dakota: 0 delegates New Mexico: 12 delegates
Subtotal: 63 delegates taking Trump to 1121.
Trump would thereby require 116 in California to avoid a contested Convention. Current polls have him higher. Trump can rely on a further 40 delegates, at least, to avoid a brokered convention.
There is a growing sense of inevitability about it now. And there is always a group of people who like to be seen backing the winner - which will drive a few more into the Trump column
For the reasons set out in my thread header, Indiana is critical. California will be a coronation if Trump does well enough on Tuesday.
I am sure all of the CCHQ bots will be along shortly to explain why Obama's intervention will eventually result in Leave's lead being eroded. Quite amusing some on here were claiming it was all over for Leave.
Just noticed the Scotland subsample on ORB 56/44 Remain. I can't comment definitively but I'm fairly sure that the remain lead was much higher than that a little while back.
Remain being pincered by the nationalists - the UK ones and the Scottish ones?
Vernon Bogdanor. Council Member of Britain in Europe who campaigned so hard for us to join the single currency. He has about as much credibility as Kinnock or Mandleson when it comes to EU matters.
Still waiting for the Obamarama stardust to have an impact, seems to be stuck at the back of the queue ;-)
we may see a real referendum soon, just have to hope LEAVE can keep it together.
malcolm - I commented last night that it should be in SNP's interest to discourage remain voters in Scotland to improve Leave's chances and hence increase the likelihood of a second Sindy ref sooner. Several posters suggested that SNP needed remain to win in Scotland in order to keep intact its moral logic of another Sindy.
Genuinely interested in your views on this (and any other SNPs on the site). Where do you stand on EU Ref - on the substance and on the tactics? Would SNP urging abstentions from the EU ref undermine its case for another Sindy ref in the event of a Leave victory?
Vernon Bogdanor. Council Member of Britain in Europe who campaigned so hard for us to join the single currency. He has about as much credibility as Kinnock or Mandleson when it comes to EU matters.
Not to mention that Cameron was one of his favourite students when was a don at Oxford.
Captain America Civil War. The greatest superhero movie of our time IMO. Better than TDK, Batman Returns and Spider-Man 2. The way it all comes together, the story line, the action, the acting, the writing, juggling such a big cast, everything about it is truly excellent. Colour me very impressed by this, and I say that as someone who has been left cold by pretty much all of the Marvel Cinematic Universe output other than Winter Soldier and the first Iron Man.
Vernon Bogdanor. Council Member of Britain in Europe who campaigned so hard for us to join the single currency. He has about as much credibility as Kinnock or Mandleson when it comes to EU matters.
Not to mention that Cameron was one of his favourite students when was a don at Oxford.
Did you see Gogglebox? They were scathing about him, even the bloke who said (before Obama uttered the words) "he is my hero".
Well, that went well.
Bizarrely Googlebox seems to be a bit of a bell weather. I was shocked just how hostile many of them were to Ed Miliband (at best they mocked him) , even in areas of the country where you would think a much higher likelihood they would be Labour leaning.
Captain America Civil War. The greatest superhero movie of our time IMO. Better than TDK, Batman Returns and Spider-Man 2. The way it all comes together, the story line, the action, the acting, the writing, juggling such a big cast, everything about it is truly excellent. Colour me very impressed by this, and I say that as someone who has been left cold by pretty much all of the Marvel Cinematic Universe output other than Winter Soldier and the first Iron Man.
Captain America Civil War. The greatest superhero movie of our time IMO. Better than TDK, Batman Returns and Spider-Man 2. The way it all comes together, the story line, the action, the acting, the writing, juggling such a big cast, everything about it is truly excellent. Colour me very impressed by this, and I say that as someone who has been left cold by pretty much all of the Marvel Cinematic Universe output other than Winter Soldier and the first Iron Man.
NBC/WSJ, which usually overstates Cruz and understates Trump, has Indiana as Trump 49 to Cruz on 34. Can Trump win every county as he did on Tuesday? Interestingly their GE match-up has Trump 48 to Clinton 41. Of course polls this far out have limited meaning, see George HW Bush v Dukakis, but the direction of travel and closeness of the polls must be worrying the Democrats.
PPP reporting initial polling in WV showing Trump plus 60%, should in the 70s there.
The direction of travel? Romney beat Obama by 11% in Indiana in 2012 and he lost nationally by 3%, so if Trump is only beating Hillary by 7% in Indiana that is encouraging for Democrats as it suggests Hillary is beating Trump by more than Obama beat Romney https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Indiana,_2012
NBC/WSJ, which usually overstates Cruz and understates Trump, has Indiana as Trump 49 to Cruz on 34. Can Trump win every county as he did on Tuesday? Interestingly their GE match-up has Trump 48 to Clinton 41. Of course polls this far out have limited meaning, see George HW Bush v Dukakis, but the direction of travel and closeness of the polls must be worrying the Democrats.
PPP reporting initial polling in WV showing Trump plus 60%, should in the 70s there.
The direction of travel? Romney beat Obama by 11% in Indiana in 2012 and he lost nationally by 3%, so if Trump is only beating Hillary by 7% in Indiana that is encouraging for Democrats as it suggests Hillary is beating Trump by more than Obama beat Romney https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Indiana,_2012
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Mr. Viewcode, it's a plausible scenario, but I still think Remain will win comfortably.
From memory, Turnbull (present PM), and past PMs Rudd, Gillard and (interestingly) Abbott are all REMAINs. Abbott is interesting because if memory serves, he is a personal friend of Daniel Hannan. The two have been growing apart since Abbott distanced himself from the concept of the Anglosphere (a stance which Hannan found baffling whilst the rest of us went "duh").
Personally I will not rest until Harold Holt towels himself off and tells us where he stands...
Mr. Thompson, perhaps. Still got months to go yet. I may change my mind.
Seems like until quite recently we were being told that Greeny Goldsmith would be appealing to the non-affiliated, moderates and centrists, until he was Lynton-ed. How quickly things change.
If the poll numbers are like that in June , it will not be project fear.
It will be a blood curling End of History political rant.
Prof Marquand advises Labour to back PC as second vote.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2016-wales-36168959
I did miss most of a tedious conference so maybe it was God's way of telling me that I should spend more of my time in restaurants with interesting people and less of my time in windowless rooms with flip charts. Obviously a sensible policy though the mode of communication left much to be desired.
I also have to go back and see more doctors which is a bore, after having spent more than enough time with them last year.
At the risk of enraging Dr Foxinsox, one of the English people there did say that I was lucky not to be having this in England in the middle of an all out doctors' strike.
https://twitter.com/bifferbasher/status/726814158193315840
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14464159.Second_referendum_while_I_am_First_Minister__predicts_Sturgeon/
As for Goldsmith, it is a pity that The Tories picked him in the first place.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/01/jeremy-corbyn-under-pressure-to-denounce-friends-hamas-and-hezbo/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2397691/Schools-trying-bring-Section-28-Investigation-launched-claims-dozens-reviving-controversial-rule-despite-abolished-years-ago.html
Cue: rude comments about Daily Mail ...
https://twitter.com/CarolHakios
Well, most have been here longer than other minorities, and, in contrast to muslims, they all speak English, don't have their womenfolk kitted out in bin-liners, don't send recruits to Syria, and don't require 24/7 surveillance by our security services.
During the strike you would have been fine, as would have seen an experienced Consultant from the start rather than a junior doctor, and the time for investigations was a lot shorter too because there was little elective work. Waiting times were significantly shorter in the strike.
Mind you in August the staffing crisis will build as about 20% of Emergency Training slots, and junior Physicians are vacant, even before the new contract hits...
Glad you are back in action.
Wouldn't suprise me at this pont tbh.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/news/article-3567154/If-s-51-49-vote-Brexit-low-turnout-Parliament-simply-won-t-allow-Vince-Cable-wades-referendum-BHS-row.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Indiana,_2012
Trump only beats Sanders 47% to 46% and Sanders beats Cruz 48% to 45%
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/NBC NewsWSJMarist.pdf
It's why some of us want to leave the EU, so we can kick out politicians we don't like!
How many are secretly agents of Mossad ?
A good week for me in the FF. I brought in Mane and put Darlow in goal in place of Hart. It will be interesting to see how Spurs get on with Saints next week, if they get past Chelsea...
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/concentrate-and-exterminate-israel-parliament-deputy-speakers-gaza-genocide-plan
http://whatukthinks.org/eu/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum#2016
Bound delegates as of 1 May 2016: 956.
Indiana: 42 delegates
Nebraska: 0 delegates
West Virginia: 30 delegates
Oregon: 12 delegates
Washington: 18 delegates
Subtotal: 102 taking Trump to 1058.
New Jersey: 51 delegates
Montana: 0 delegates
South Dakota: 0 delegates
New Mexico: 12 delegates
Subtotal: 63 delegates taking Trump to 1121.
Trump would thereby require 116 in California to avoid a contested Convention. Current polls have him higher. Trump can rely on a further 40 delegates, at least, to avoid a brokered convention.
I fully expect weeks after the election "Man stubs toe... WHEN WILL THE MAYOR ACT?"
Remain being pincered by the nationalists - the UK ones and the Scottish ones?
Well, that went well.
Genuinely interested in your views on this (and any other SNPs on the site). Where do you stand on EU Ref - on the substance and on the tactics? Would SNP urging abstentions from the EU ref undermine its case for another Sindy ref in the event of a Leave victory?
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Apologies to Richard, but that was the single worst analogy I've heard on here in a long time, and this place has some bad ones.
Thank God he got chucked out of the Mother of All Parliaments.
I can see why Trump is an unstoppable election winning machine.
Yep, another part of the Jewish conspiracy pile in.