Totally and utterly gutted, but not really surprised, that The Sunil on Sunday's "Be Leave" hasn't been chosen as the official LEAVE Campaign. But remember our positive message:
Believe in BRITAIN!
Be LEAVE!
You appear to have been a key part of Vote Leave's submission.
As for Rusbridger's Guardian, in an age of low interest rates and costly internet economics, that Guardian is either a thing of the past or on a suicide mission.
Some on here are misjudging Farage, he has campaigned for this for 20 years, if we Leave on 23/6 he can ride off into the sunset and name his price, if not his life's work will be scarred by failure. He'll do nothing to jeopardise that.
Either way I'd say he won't be Ukip leader much beyond the referendum.
Name his price to do what? The market drives up the price of rare commodities. As far as I'm aware we aren't suffering from a shortage of pub bores, with simple answers to complex problems.
It may have passed unmentioned on here, but the HS2 bill passed its third reading, with 399 MPs voting for and only 42 against. If it passes through the Lords then construction will start next year.
In news from the north, Trans-Pennine Express is going to be getting 140-MPH capable (*) trains, which should have 161 extra seats per train. They will be similar to the new bi-mode (electric and diesel) Hitachi trains ordered for the Great Western line.
(*) 125 MPH initially, depending on line speed. Ahem.
Meanwhile the morning service from Newark to Lincoln consists of a single carriage which is so overcrowded that the crew regularly have to refuse to let any more people on. It has been like this for several years and at peak times has over 80 people standing. The Operator says that they cannot do anything about it because all their carriages are in use.
Interesting fact, according to East Midlands Trains, unlike buses there is no legal limit as to how many people can be carried in a train carriage.
I know there are manufacturer's recommendations, but don't know if there's a legal limit. It's an interesting question ...
As for the main point, I would suggest you make a further complaint to EMT, and also send it to DfT and ORR.
Well done, my estimation of Farage has gone up a tad.
Now he has to write that second sentence, saying he will join them.
Unless that second sentence says "For now."?
I think what you should remember that EACH group registered can spend £700,000 and if they receive large donations from e.g. Midland Businessmen, then they can spend it how they chose. UKIP can spend £4 million, although that is dwarfed by how much the other main parties can spend (Lib Lab Con) BSE and VL can spend £7 million and the Government (well anyone) can spend as much as they like before the spending rules come in.
If GO merged with VL then the potential money available to the LEAVE campaign drops substantially (at least the means to spend it effectively).
AFAIK the Government can spend as much taxpayers money on it as it likes until 28th May.
Some on here are misjudging Farage, he has campaigned for this for 20 years, if we Leave on 23/6 he can ride off into the sunset and name his price, if not his life's work will be scarred by failure. He'll do nothing to jeopardise that.
Either way I'd say he won't be Ukip leader much beyond the referendum.
Name his price to do what? The market drives up the price of rare commodities. As far as I'm aware we aren't suffering from a shortage of pub bores, with simple answers to complex problems.
I doubt if Nigel will publish his tax return next year but it will show substantial earnings. You might not like him but he'll make a packet if Leave wins, a smaller one if Remain does.
Some on here are misjudging Farage, he has campaigned for this for 20 years, if we Leave on 23/6 he can ride off into the sunset and name his price, if not his life's work will be scarred by failure. He'll do nothing to jeopardise that.
Either way I'd say he won't be Ukip leader much beyond the referendum.
Name his price to do what? The market drives up the price of rare commodities. As far as I'm aware we aren't suffering from a shortage of pub bores, with simple answers to complex problems.
Describe a problem as complex is usually the first step to deciding it's to too complex to do anything about, and then sweeping it under the carpet. If you're lucky it doesn't subsequently blow up in your face a decade or two later.
Some on here are misjudging Farage, he has campaigned for this for 20 years, if we Leave on 23/6 he can ride off into the sunset and name his price, if not his life's work will be scarred by failure. He'll do nothing to jeopardise that.
Either way I'd say he won't be Ukip leader much beyond the referendum.
Name his price to do what? The market drives up the price of rare commodities. As far as I'm aware we aren't suffering from a shortage of pub bores, with simple answers to complex problems.
I doubt if Nigel will publish his tax return next year but it will show substantial earnings. You might not like him but he'll make a packet if Leave wins, a smaller one if Remain does.
I would have thought he'll have a pretty lucrative retirement career whatever happens. He'll be in demand as an after dinner speaker under most circumstances.
Some on here are misjudging Farage, he has campaigned for this for 20 years, if we Leave on 23/6 he can ride off into the sunset and name his price, if not his life's work will be scarred by failure. He'll do nothing to jeopardise that.
Either way I'd say he won't be Ukip leader much beyond the referendum.
Name his price to do what? The market drives up the price of rare commodities. As far as I'm aware we aren't suffering from a shortage of pub bores, with simple answers to complex problems.
Describe a problem as complex is usually the first step to deciding it's to too complex to do anything about, and then sweeping it under the carpet. If you're lucky it doesn't subsequently blow up in your face a decade or two later.
Describing a problem as complex is usually the first step in determining the best way of tackling it and its complexities.
Describing a complex problem as simple is always the first step to a disastrous solution.
With my engineer hat on, I'd never say there are never simple answers to complex problems, only simple bodges.
Some on here are misjudging Farage, he has campaigned for this for 20 years, if we Leave on 23/6 he can ride off into the sunset and name his price, if not his life's work will be scarred by failure. He'll do nothing to jeopardise that.
Either way I'd say he won't be Ukip leader much beyond the referendum.
Name his price to do what? The market drives up the price of rare commodities. As far as I'm aware we aren't suffering from a shortage of pub bores, with simple answers to complex problems.
I doubt if Nigel will publish his tax return next year but it will show substantial earnings. You might not like him but he'll make a packet if Leave wins, a smaller one if Remain does.
Most of earnings come from Europe, he'll be short a few quid.
I wonder where Vote Leave will concentrate resources, in terms of papers the Mail and Express seem sorted, the Guardian is a lost cause, not sure about the Telegraph. The Sun would be fruitful, possibly the Times but I'd say adverts in the Mirror will be money best spent. Anything anti Cameron and Osborne will be lapped up by Mirror readers.
Some on here are misjudging Farage, he has campaigned for this for 20 years, if we Leave on 23/6 he can ride off into the sunset and name his price, if not his life's work will be scarred by failure. He'll do nothing to jeopardise that.
Either way I'd say he won't be Ukip leader much beyond the referendum.
Name his price to do what? The market drives up the price of rare commodities. As far as I'm aware we aren't suffering from a shortage of pub bores, with simple answers to complex problems.
I doubt if Nigel will publish his tax return next year but it will show substantial earnings. You might not like him but he'll make a packet if Leave wins, a smaller one if Remain does.
Most of earnings come from Europe, he'll be short a few quid.
Wake up mate, he'll make a packet speaking at City dinners. His MEP salary will look like peanuts.
An interesting point IMO is that the young people who are already on the electoral roll are likely to be the most pro-Remain segment of that demographic since they will be the most educated and middle-class. The ones who aren't are probably likely to be slightly more pro-Brexit, while of course being less so than the electorate as a whole.
Some on here are misjudging Farage, he has campaigned for this for 20 years, if we Leave on 23/6 he can ride off into the sunset and name his price, if not his life's work will be scarred by failure. He'll do nothing to jeopardise that.
Either way I'd say he won't be Ukip leader much beyond the referendum.
Name his price to do what? The market drives up the price of rare commodities. As far as I'm aware we aren't suffering from a shortage of pub bores, with simple answers to complex problems.
I doubt if Nigel will publish his tax return next year but it will show substantial earnings. You might not like him but he'll make a packet if Leave wins, a smaller one if Remain does.
My understanding is that MEPs are taxed in quite a different way and at a discount rate. His tax return will not be comparable to other party leaders.
I'd say adverts in the Mirror will be money best spent. Anything anti Cameron and Osborne will be lapped up by Mirror readers.
I reckon some sort of Dickens type ones that say if we remain in EU, Cameron and Osborne will be told by EU to shove kids up chimneys should do the trick.
Some on here are misjudging Farage, he has campaigned for this for 20 years, if we Leave on 23/6 he can ride off into the sunset and name his price, if not his life's work will be scarred by failure. He'll do nothing to jeopardise that.
Either way I'd say he won't be Ukip leader much beyond the referendum.
Name his price to do what? The market drives up the price of rare commodities. As far as I'm aware we aren't suffering from a shortage of pub bores, with simple answers to complex problems.
I doubt if Nigel will publish his tax return next year but it will show substantial earnings. You might not like him but he'll make a packet if Leave wins, a smaller one if Remain does.
Most of earnings come from Europe, he'll be short a few quid.
Wake up mate, he'll make a packet speaking at City dinners. His MEP salary will look like peanuts.
Seeing as the likes of Gordon Brown can be somehow paid a fortune at these things I agree - Farage should be able to make an absolute mint !
Today at PMQs, Jeremy Corbyn began with a tribute. “I’m sure the whole House will join me,” said the Labour leader gravely, “in mourning the death of Arnold Wesker, one of the great playwrights of this country.”
Unfortunately, however, it soon became clear that Mr Cameron was not entirely familiar with Wesker’s oeuvre. Or, indeed, his name.
“Let me join the right honourable gentleman,” intoned the Prime Minister, donning the sombre mien of one for whom the news had come as a personal shock, “in mourning the loss of…”
Oh drat. What was the chap called? Blast it. He knew he should have written it down. “…the famous playwright, and all the work he did,” he said earnestly. “He’s quite right to mention that.”
I'd say adverts in the Mirror will be money best spent. Anything anti Cameron and Osborne will be lapped up by Mirror readers.
I reckon some sort of Dickens type ones that say if we remain in EU, Cameron and Osborne will be told by EU to shove kids up chimneys should do the trick.
Some on here are misjudging Farage, he has campaigned for this for 20 years, if we Leave on 23/6 he can ride off into the sunset and name his price, if not his life's work will be scarred by failure. He'll do nothing to jeopardise that.
Either way I'd say he won't be Ukip leader much beyond the referendum.
Name his price to do what? The market drives up the price of rare commodities. As far as I'm aware we aren't suffering from a shortage of pub bores, with simple answers to complex problems.
I doubt if Nigel will publish his tax return next year but it will show substantial earnings. You might not like him but he'll make a packet if Leave wins, a smaller one if Remain does.
My understanding is that MEPs are taxed in quite a different way and at a discount rate. His tax return will not be comparable to other party leaders.
FIFA officials tax returns will be even better...paid squillions, tax paid, 2 cents.
I'd say adverts in the Mirror will be money best spent. Anything anti Cameron and Osborne will be lapped up by Mirror readers.
I reckon some sort of Dickens type ones that say if we remain in EU, Cameron and Osborne will be told by EU to shove kids up chimneys should do the trick.
TTIP on the NHS would be good for the Mirror.
Yes being sensible, I think that is probably a very good angle of attack for Leave. Combo of EU and nasty US stitching up the NHS surely will go down with Mirror readers.
I'd say adverts in the Mirror will be money best spent. Anything anti Cameron and Osborne will be lapped up by Mirror readers.
I reckon some sort of Dickens type ones that say if we remain in EU, Cameron and Osborne will be told by EU to shove kids up chimneys should do the trick.
TTIP on the NHS would be good for the Mirror.
But I would hope we'd sign up for TTIP if we leave the EU.
Some on here are misjudging Farage, he has campaigned for this for 20 years, if we Leave on 23/6 he can ride off into the sunset and name his price, if not his life's work will be scarred by failure. He'll do nothing to jeopardise that.
Either way I'd say he won't be Ukip leader much beyond the referendum.
Name his price to do what? The market drives up the price of rare commodities. As far as I'm aware we aren't suffering from a shortage of pub bores, with simple answers to complex problems.
I doubt if Nigel will publish his tax return next year but it will show substantial earnings. You might not like him but he'll make a packet if Leave wins, a smaller one if Remain does.
Most of earnings come from Europe, he'll be short a few quid.
Wake up mate, he'll make a packet speaking at City dinners. His MEP salary will look like peanuts.
Seeing as the likes of Gordon Brown can be somehow paid a fortune at these things I agree - Farage should be able to make an absolute mint !
Remember Gordo doesn't earn any money out of all his work...no sireee....it all gets eaten up by the costs of running the operation...cough cough bullllllss cough...
Is it now compulsory for all Republican party candidates to have their trouser arrangements scrutinised? I'm looking forward to the third part of the trilogy: Kasich Instinct.
I'd say adverts in the Mirror will be money best spent. Anything anti Cameron and Osborne will be lapped up by Mirror readers.
I reckon some sort of Dickens type ones that say if we remain in EU, Cameron and Osborne will be told by EU to shove kids up chimneys should do the trick.
Today at PMQs, Jeremy Corbyn began with a tribute. “I’m sure the whole House will join me,” said the Labour leader gravely, “in mourning the death of Arnold Wesker, one of the great playwrights of this country.”
Unfortunately, however, it soon became clear that Mr Cameron was not entirely familiar with Wesker’s oeuvre. Or, indeed, his name.
“Let me join the right honourable gentleman,” intoned the Prime Minister, donning the sombre mien of one for whom the news had come as a personal shock, “in mourning the loss of…”
Oh drat. What was the chap called? Blast it. He knew he should have written it down. “…the famous playwright, and all the work he did,” he said earnestly. “He’s quite right to mention that.”
Some on here are misjudging Farage, he has campaigned for this for 20 years, if we Leave on 23/6 he can ride off into the sunset and name his price, if not his life's work will be scarred by failure. He'll do nothing to jeopardise that.
Either way I'd say he won't be Ukip leader much beyond the referendum.
Name his price to do what? The market drives up the price of rare commodities. As far as I'm aware we aren't suffering from a shortage of pub bores, with simple answers to complex problems.
I doubt if Nigel will publish his tax return next year but it will show substantial earnings. You might not like him but he'll make a packet if Leave wins, a smaller one if Remain does.
Most of earnings come from Europe, he'll be short a few quid.
Wake up mate, he'll make a packet speaking at City dinners. His MEP salary will look like peanuts.
Seeing as the likes of Gordon Brown can be somehow paid a fortune at these things I agree - Farage should be able to make an absolute mint !
Yep, boozed up traders will pay good money to hear Nigel's non PC routine
Is it now compulsory for all Republican party candidates to have their trouser arrangements scrutinised? I'm looking forward to the third part of the trilogy: Kasich Instinct.
And then a spin off, GOP Origins: Shaving Paul Ryan.
I'd say adverts in the Mirror will be money best spent. Anything anti Cameron and Osborne will be lapped up by Mirror readers.
I reckon some sort of Dickens type ones that say if we remain in EU, Cameron and Osborne will be told by EU to shove kids up chimneys should do the trick.
TTIP on the NHS would be good for the Mirror.
But I would hope we'd sign up for TTIP if we leave the EU.
Indeed it will be less likely to impact on the NHS if the treaty is negotiated by the EU than our own right wingers.
One of the more laughable features of the Leave campaign is right wingers like Hannan wanting to keep the NHS a govt monopoly.
Today at PMQs, Jeremy Corbyn began with a tribute. “I’m sure the whole House will join me,” said the Labour leader gravely, “in mourning the death of Arnold Wesker, one of the great playwrights of this country.”
Unfortunately, however, it soon became clear that Mr Cameron was not entirely familiar with Wesker’s oeuvre. Or, indeed, his name.
“Let me join the right honourable gentleman,” intoned the Prime Minister, donning the sombre mien of one for whom the news had come as a personal shock, “in mourning the loss of…”
Oh drat. What was the chap called? Blast it. He knew he should have written it down. “…the famous playwright, and all the work he did,” he said earnestly. “He’s quite right to mention that.”
Perhaps this is Corbyn's strategy of trying to slip up the PM?
Yes sad news about Arnold. He was in a class- and a year- above me in my local synagogue's hebrew classes. When he was thirteen he suddenly shot up like a beanpole. We used to call him lamppost.
Here the full statement from Nigel Farage on the decision.
"I congratulate Vote Leave on getting designation.
The decision of Ukip to back Grassroots Out was on the basis that they saw the importance of the immigration issue in this referendum, and that we wanted to reach out across the country at a grassroots level and work with everyone from the left, centre and right of British politics to get our country out of the EU. I believe this approach is the only way the Leave side can win this referendum.
It is clear that Vote Leave now share my view on this approach, for instance the issue of EU open borders is now a prominent part of their campaign messaging.
Regardless of whichever campaign got the designation, Ukip would always have played a big role in this campaign as the only national party committed to leaving the EU and with a substantial £4m spending limit.
I have always wanted all on the Leave side to come together and have done my best to try and make this happen. I’ll continue to do so in the run up to the referendum to ensure the Leave side wins.
We in Ukip, as I’ve said from the start, will work with anyone that wants to leave the EU. We must work together to get our country out of the European Union."
This is where Farage and I have always been at odds, he believes immigration should be the be all, and end all of the Leave campaign, he is wrong, it is but one part in a much greater picture imho.
He doesn't see it as the be all and end all, he sees it as an important factor, as he states clearly.
So there's sweetness and light between the two Anti EU groups? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36033766 "There are a number of judgements according to the Electoral Commission’s own criteria that do not make sense and we shall be raising those inconsistencies in our action. It is to be regretted that this process may put the referendum back until October but if we are to avoid the most important vote of our lives being rigged then I feel duty bound to take this course of action.”
An interesting point IMO is that the young people who are already on the electoral roll are likely to be the most pro-Remain segment of that demographic since they will be the most educated and middle-class. The ones who aren't are probably likely to be slightly more pro-Brexit, while of course being less so than the electorate as a whole.
Aren't they likely to be the ones who are at university and located or registered in the wrong place, if they are registered at all? That seemed fairly prevalent last year.
Those at home with mum and dad may be the most likely to be accurately registered.
I'd say adverts in the Mirror will be money best spent. Anything anti Cameron and Osborne will be lapped up by Mirror readers.
I reckon some sort of Dickens type ones that say if we remain in EU, Cameron and Osborne will be told by EU to shove kids up chimneys should do the trick.
TTIP on the NHS would be good for the Mirror.
But I would hope we'd sign up for TTIP if we leave the EU.
Indeed it will be less likely to impact on the NHS if the treaty is negotiated by the EU than our own right wingers.
One of the more laughable features of the Leave campaign is right wingers like Hannan wanting to keep the NHS a govt monopoly.
The EU-US TTIP deal is better than the TPP with Australia, Japan and the like in two important ways:
1. There is no requirement for signatories to keep intellectual property laws in lock-step with the EU. 2. ISDS Tribunals are not held in secret.
An interesting point IMO is that the young people who are already on the electoral roll are likely to be the most pro-Remain segment of that demographic since they will be the most educated and middle-class. The ones who aren't are probably likely to be slightly more pro-Brexit, while of course being less so than the electorate as a whole.
Aren't they likely to be the ones who are at university and located or registered in the wrong place, if they are registered at all? That seemed fairly prevalent last year.
Those at home with mum and dad may be the most likely to be accurately registered.
I didn't think you could be registered in the wrong place, as university students can vote in either constituency. Unless you mean in terms of being able to physically cast their ballot?
On the BBC's live blog linked below, it states that the official leave campaign gets a free mail shot. Wasn't that one of the criticisms of the £9m for the remain campaign (or will the remain campaign get one in addition to the £9m leaflet?)
I'd say adverts in the Mirror will be money best spent. Anything anti Cameron and Osborne will be lapped up by Mirror readers.
I reckon some sort of Dickens type ones that say if we remain in EU, Cameron and Osborne will be told by EU to shove kids up chimneys should do the trick.
TTIP on the NHS would be good for the Mirror.
But I would hope we'd sign up for TTIP if we leave the EU.
Indeed it will be less likely to impact on the NHS if the treaty is negotiated by the EU than our own right wingers.
One of the more laughable features of the Leave campaign is right wingers like Hannan wanting to keep the NHS a govt monopoly.
The EU-US TTIP deal is better than the TPP with Australia, Japan and the like in two important ways:
1. There is no requirement for signatories to keep intellectual property laws in lock-step with the EU. 2. ISDS Tribunals are not held in secret.
Joe Stiglitz the Nobel Prize Winning economist (and generally on the left) has said the UK should consider Brexit if the EU signs TTIP...
I'd be very surprised if Banks gets anywhere with his judicial review threat. For a start, I wasn't even aware that Leave.EU even applied for designation, they supported Grassroots Out didn't they, so before they try to persuade a Judge that there is a case to answer, they presumably need to persuade GO to mount the legal challenge. Is GO that bothered?
Even if GO did mount a challenge, I'd be very surprised if this went before the courts and resulted in a judgment before 23rd June, barely 2 months from now - and it would need to be well before 23 June given the infrastructure, work and cost that needs to be up and running and in place to allow a referendum to take place then. So what would GO do - the Electoral Commission isn't running the referendum, so whilst an injunction could conceivably be obtained to prevent the vote going ahead on 23 June, it would presumably need to bring in the Govt to the proceedings and they aren't the ones whose decision here is actually being impugned.
And even then, I would be flabbergasted if a single High Court judge would risk allowing something as massively big as the EU referendum to be delayed so that basically a sore loser could have his day in court. There would have to be the most obvious and egregious irrationality or flaw in the Electoral Commission's process to even get a Judge into the territory of considering it.
Interesting stuff, but I really can't see a JR getting anywhere. At all.
I'd say adverts in the Mirror will be money best spent. Anything anti Cameron and Osborne will be lapped up by Mirror readers.
I reckon some sort of Dickens type ones that say if we remain in EU, Cameron and Osborne will be told by EU to shove kids up chimneys should do the trick.
TTIP on the NHS would be good for the Mirror.
But I would hope we'd sign up for TTIP if we leave the EU.
Indeed it will be less likely to impact on the NHS if the treaty is negotiated by the EU than our own right wingers.
One of the more laughable features of the Leave campaign is right wingers like Hannan wanting to keep the NHS a govt monopoly.
The EU-US TTIP deal is better than the TPP with Australia, Japan and the like in two important ways:
1. There is no requirement for signatories to keep intellectual property laws in lock-step with the EU. 2. ISDS Tribunals are not held in secret.
Joe Stiglitz the Nobel Prize Winning economist (and generally on the left) has said the UK should consider Brexit if the EU signs TTIP...
He presumably thinks that Japan, Australia and New Zealand should not have signed the TPP.
Wall Street now struggling at just the 2,845 points above 15,000....
FTSE tumbling to 6,300+.
Scrapberg news.
I'm sorry that's not correct. Hunchman assured us all that we would be in the middle of a sovereign debt crisis right now, and stocks would be pretty much worthless.
It's 2017 to 2019.2016 is a prelude. And stocks are going to rise. Stop misquoting me. In other matters, a very interesting day including a visit to THAT ADDRESS. More people in Finchley know what goes on there now which is a very good thing.
I'd say adverts in the Mirror will be money best spent. Anything anti Cameron and Osborne will be lapped up by Mirror readers.
I reckon some sort of Dickens type ones that say if we remain in EU, Cameron and Osborne will be told by EU to shove kids up chimneys should do the trick.
TTIP on the NHS would be good for the Mirror.
But I would hope we'd sign up for TTIP if we leave the EU.
Indeed it will be less likely to impact on the NHS if the treaty is negotiated by the EU than our own right wingers.
One of the more laughable features of the Leave campaign is right wingers like Hannan wanting to keep the NHS a govt monopoly.
The EU-US TTIP deal is better than the TPP with Australia, Japan and the like in two important ways:
1. There is no requirement for signatories to keep intellectual property laws in lock-step with the EU. 2. ISDS Tribunals are not held in secret.
Joe Stiglitz the Nobel Prize Winning economist (and generally on the left) has said the UK should consider Brexit if the EU signs TTIP...
He presumably thinks that Japan, Australia and New Zealand should not have signed the TPP.
Perhaps - he is certainly very trenchant in his criticism of it, suggesting no democracy should accept some of the conditions attached to it.
Some on here are misjudging Farage, he has campaigned for this for 20 years, if we Leave on 23/6 he can ride off into the sunset and name his price, if not his life's work will be scarred by failure. He'll do nothing to jeopardise that.
Either way I'd say he won't be Ukip leader much beyond the referendum.
Name his price to do what? The market drives up the price of rare commodities. As far as I'm aware we aren't suffering from a shortage of pub bores, with simple answers to complex problems.
Describe a problem as complex is usually the first step to deciding it's to too complex to do anything about, and then sweeping it under the carpet. If you're lucky it doesn't subsequently blow up in your face a decade or two later.
Describing a problem as complex is usually the first step in determining the best way of tackling it and its complexities.
Describing a complex problem as simple is always the first step to a disastrous solution.
With my engineer hat on, I'd never say there are never simple answers to complex problems, only simple bodges.
I would agree.
Problem is no one is interested in solving complex problems.
It takes longer than a parliament, always makes too many enemies, and mostly costs more than anyone wants to spend, so it gets brushed under the carpet.
I'd say adverts in the Mirror will be money best spent. Anything anti Cameron and Osborne will be lapped up by Mirror readers.
I reckon some sort of Dickens type ones that say if we remain in EU, Cameron and Osborne will be told by EU to shove kids up chimneys should do the trick.
TTIP on the NHS would be good for the Mirror.
But I would hope we'd sign up for TTIP if we leave the EU.
Indeed it will be less likely to impact on the NHS if the treaty is negotiated by the EU than our own right wingers.
One of the more laughable features of the Leave campaign is right wingers like Hannan wanting to keep the NHS a govt monopoly.
The EU-US TTIP deal is better than the TPP with Australia, Japan and the like in two important ways:
1. There is no requirement for signatories to keep intellectual property laws in lock-step with the EU. 2. ISDS Tribunals are not held in secret.
Joe Stiglitz the Nobel Prize Winning economist (and generally on the left) has said the UK should consider Brexit if the EU signs TTIP...
He presumably thinks that Japan, Australia and New Zealand should not have signed the TPP.
Some on here are misjudging Farage, he has campaigned for this for 20 years, if we Leave on 23/6 he can ride off into the sunset and name his price, if not his life's work will be scarred by failure. He'll do nothing to jeopardise that.
Either way I'd say he won't be Ukip leader much beyond the referendum.
Name his price to do what? The market drives up the price of rare commodities. As far as I'm aware we aren't suffering from a shortage of pub bores, with simple answers to complex problems.
I doubt if Nigel will publish his tax return next year but it will show substantial earnings. You might not like him but he'll make a packet if Leave wins, a smaller one if Remain does.
Most of earnings come from Europe, he'll be short a few quid.
Wake up mate, he'll make a packet speaking at City dinners. His MEP salary will look like peanuts.
Seeing as the likes of Gordon Brown can be somehow paid a fortune at these things I agree - Farage should be able to make an absolute mint !
Remember Gordo doesn't earn any money out of all his work...no sireee....it all gets eaten up by the costs of running the operation...cough cough bullllllss cough...
I don't get the impression Brown would know what to do with lots of money - probably one of the reasons he never appealed to the British electorate. I'm sure he likes having his ego massaged though.
I'd say adverts in the Mirror will be money best spent. Anything anti Cameron and Osborne will be lapped up by Mirror readers.
I reckon some sort of Dickens type ones that say if we remain in EU, Cameron and Osborne will be told by EU to shove kids up chimneys should do the trick.
TTIP on the NHS would be good for the Mirror.
But I would hope we'd sign up for TTIP if we leave the EU.
Indeed it will be less likely to impact on the NHS if the treaty is negotiated by the EU than our own right wingers.
One of the more laughable features of the Leave campaign is right wingers like Hannan wanting to keep the NHS a govt monopoly.
The EU-US TTIP deal is better than the TPP with Australia, Japan and the like in two important ways:
1. There is no requirement for signatories to keep intellectual property laws in lock-step with the EU. 2. ISDS Tribunals are not held in secret.
Joe Stiglitz the Nobel Prize Winning economist (and generally on the left) has said the UK should consider Brexit if the EU signs TTIP...
He presumably thinks that Japan, Australia and New Zealand should not have signed the TPP.
Stiglitz certainly thinks Australia should not be in Eurovision.
I'd say adverts in the Mirror will be money best spent. Anything anti Cameron and Osborne will be lapped up by Mirror readers.
I reckon some sort of Dickens type ones that say if we remain in EU, Cameron and Osborne will be told by EU to shove kids up chimneys should do the trick.
TTIP on the NHS would be good for the Mirror.
But I would hope we'd sign up for TTIP if we leave the EU.
Indeed it will be less likely to impact on the NHS if the treaty is negotiated by the EU than our own right wingers.
One of the more laughable features of the Leave campaign is right wingers like Hannan wanting to keep the NHS a govt monopoly.
The EU-US TTIP deal is better than the TPP with Australia, Japan and the like in two important ways:
1. There is no requirement for signatories to keep intellectual property laws in lock-step with the EU. 2. ISDS Tribunals are not held in secret.
Joe Stiglitz the Nobel Prize Winning economist (and generally on the left) has said the UK should consider Brexit if the EU signs TTIP...
He presumably thinks that Japan, Australia and New Zealand should not have signed the TPP.
Stiglitz certainly thinks Australia should not be in Eurovision.
The second Monday is the best day! All the 4th-round matches are held then so you get the creme de la creme (possibility of seeing Federer, Nadal and Williams all back to back).
I applied for the raffle for tickets, but didn't get any
The second Monday is the best day! All the 4th-round matches are held then so you get the creme de la creme (possibility of seeing Federer, Nadal and Williams all back to back).
I applied for the raffle for tickets, but didn't get any
Now Vote Leave have won designation am I correct in assuming they will accept free movement of labour as part of their new treaty
What new treaty is that?
The new deal they are going to broker with the EU
I'm beginning to think you're a spoof.
Leave won't be brokering anything, that will be the govt, led by Cameron.
I suspect you know that and you're chuckling at me.
No - it is a genuine question that needs a responsible answer and not prevarication. If it was honest and credible I could vote for leave. The reason I am not committed yet is that I think this referendum may be won by leave on a false promise of stopping free movement of labour
On the BBC's live blog linked below, it states that the official leave campaign gets a free mail shot. Wasn't that one of the criticisms of the £9m for the remain campaign (or will the remain campaign get one in addition to the £9m leaflet?)
Now Vote Leave have won designation am I correct in assuming they will accept free movement of labour as part of their new treaty
What new treaty is that?
The new deal they are going to broker with the EU
I'm beginning to think you're a spoof.
Leave won't be brokering anything, that will be the govt, led by Cameron.
I suspect you know that and you're chuckling at me.
No - it is a genuine question that needs a responsible answer and not prevarication. If it was honest and credible I could vote for leave. The reason I am not committed yet is that I think this referendum may be won by leave on a false promise of stopping free movement of labour
Like the Tory false promise of cutting immigration, presumably.
Now Vote Leave have won designation am I correct in assuming they will accept free movement of labour as part of their new treaty
What new treaty is that?
The new deal they are going to broker with the EU
I'm beginning to think you're a spoof.
Leave won't be brokering anything, that will be the govt, led by Cameron.
I suspect you know that and you're chuckling at me.
No - it is a genuine question that needs a responsible answer and not prevarication. If it was honest and credible I could vote for leave. The reason I am not committed yet is that I think this referendum may be won by leave on a false promise of stopping free movement of labour
Is it a false promise ?
If the public voted say 60% out on the basis of thinking it was going to get no free movement, it would be political suicide to go for an EEA/EFTA solution, irrespective of what the Leave campaign says. That call is one the government of the day will have to make based on how the referendum goes, who it least cares about pissing off, and how much political capital it thinks it has.
And I sorry but what he says isn't prevarication, its how the world is. Leave can suggest what it wants, the government chooses what happens.
I don't believe you are a waver at all to be honest, your line of questioning has been conspicuously aimed at trying to drive a wedge between the different factions of the leave camp, Nabavi and Meeks were playing the same game a month or so ago, and sadly for them and you, the leave campaign is smart enough (so far) not to bite.
Now Vote Leave have won designation am I correct in assuming they will accept free movement of labour as part of their new treaty
What new treaty is that?
The new deal they are going to broker with the EU
I'm beginning to think you're a spoof.
Leave won't be brokering anything, that will be the govt, led by Cameron.
I suspect you know that and you're chuckling at me.
No - it is a genuine question that needs a responsible answer and not prevarication. If it was honest and credible I could vote for leave. The reason I am not committed yet is that I think this referendum may be won by leave on a false promise of stopping free movement of labour
Like the Tory false promise of cutting immigration, presumably.
You are avoiding my point. Will leave agree that free movement of labour is a benefit and that the deal brokered with the EU will allow that to continue but will at the same time return sovereignty to the UK. Convince me on that and I would vote leave
Now Vote Leave have won designation am I correct in assuming they will accept free movement of labour as part of their new treaty
What new treaty is that?
The new deal they are going to broker with the EU
I'm beginning to think you're a spoof.
Leave won't be brokering anything, that will be the govt, led by Cameron.
I suspect you know that and you're chuckling at me.
No - it is a genuine question that needs a responsible answer and not prevarication. If it was honest and credible I could vote for leave. The reason I am not committed yet is that I think this referendum may be won by leave on a false promise of stopping free movement of labour
Like the Tory false promise of cutting immigration, presumably.
You are avoiding my point. Will leave agree that free movement of labour is a benefit and that the deal brokered with the EU will allow that to continue but will at the same time return sovereignty to the UK. Convince me on that and I would vote leave
Did blackburn become a spokesman for the Leave campaign while I was at dinner, he can't promise you anything, he can't even tell you what the campaign themes will be since they haven't been announced. But you know all that.
Sky News are reporting that Goldman Sachs has told staff in Europe that they are not allowed to campaign for either side in the referendum.
I thought they were going to throw their support behind the Remain campaign...
They have already reportedly given several hundred thousand quid to Remain. They must been getting worried. They don't want to be seen supporting the losing side.
Sky News are reporting that Goldman Sachs has told staff in Europe that they are not allowed to campaign for either side in the referendum.
I thought they were going to throw their support behind the Remain campaign...
They have already reportedly given several hundred thousand quid to Remain. They must been getting worried. They don't want to be seen supporting the losing side.
Indeed. It is interesting to see so many businesses who have previously threatened to relocate if the UK left the EU backtrack on their statements. It is easy to make idle threats when the polls showed a huge Remain lead. Now the polls are virtually 50/50.
Sky News are reporting that Goldman Sachs has told staff in Europe that they are not allowed to campaign for either side in the referendum.
How can they stop staff doing something in their private life? Provided that the person doesn't link what they have to say to GS I don't see the issue. Indeed, it seems to me interference with the electoral process. Staff in the UK are voters and are entitled to take as much interest in this vote as in any other.
Sky News are reporting that Goldman Sachs has told staff in Europe that they are not allowed to campaign for either side in the referendum.
How can they stop staff doing something in their private life? Provided that the person doesn't link what they have to say to GS I don't see the issue. Indeed, it seems to me interference with the electoral process. Staff in the UK are voters and are entitled to take as much interest in this vote as in any other.
If you work at Goldman Sachs, it's unlikely you'll have much time for a private life.
Sky News are reporting that Goldman Sachs has told staff in Europe that they are not allowed to campaign for either side in the referendum.
How can they stop staff doing something in their private life? Provided that the person doesn't link what they have to say to GS I don't see the issue. Indeed, it seems to me interference with the electoral process. Staff in the UK are voters and are entitled to take as much interest in this vote as in any other.
I imagine they mean not in school uniform or in the school newspaper, so to speak Probably also will get miffed with senior or well know faces appearing in campaign literature or in the media.
Now Vote Leave have won designation am I correct in assuming they will accept free movement of labour as part of their new treaty
What new treaty is that?
The new deal they are going to broker with the EU
I'm beginning to think you're a spoof.
Leave won't be brokering anything, that will be the govt, led by Cameron.
I suspect you know that and you're chuckling at me.
No - it is a genuine question that needs a responsible answer and not prevarication. If it was honest and credible I could vote for leave. The reason I am not committed yet is that I think this referendum may be won by leave on a false promise of stopping free movement of labour
Like the Tory false promise of cutting immigration, presumably.
You are avoiding my point. Will leave agree that free movement of labour is a benefit and that the deal brokered with the EU will allow that to continue but will at the same time return sovereignty to the UK. Convince me on that and I would vote leave
Did blackburn become a spokesman for the Leave campaign while I was at dinner, he can't promise you anything, he can't even tell you what the campaign themes will be since they haven't been announced. But you know all that.
Thanks for that - I genuinely didn't know that leave haven't decided on their position. I look foreward to the campaign. As a side issue Gove will be a big player in the campaign and also in the unifying cabinet post 23rd
Here the full statement from Nigel Farage on the decision.
"I congratulate Vote Leave on getting designation.
The decision of Ukip to back Grassroots Out was on the basis that they saw the importance of the immigration issue in this referendum, and that we wanted to reach out across the country at a grassroots level and work with everyone from the left, centre and right of British politics to get our country out of the EU. I believe this approach is the only way the Leave side can win this referendum.
It is clear that Vote Leave now share my view on this approach, for instance the issue of EU open borders is now a prominent part of their campaign messaging.
Regardless of whichever campaign got the designation, Ukip would always have played a big role in this campaign as the only national party committed to leaving the EU and with a substantial £4m spending limit.
I have always wanted all on the Leave side to come together and have done my best to try and make this happen. I’ll continue to do so in the run up to the referendum to ensure the Leave side wins.
We in Ukip, as I’ve said from the start, will work with anyone that wants to leave the EU. We must work together to get our country out of the European Union."
This is where Farage and I have always been at odds, he believes immigration should be the be all, and end all of the Leave campaign, he is wrong, it is but one part in a much greater picture imho.
He doesn't see it as the be all and end all, he sees it as an important factor, as he states clearly.
So there's sweetness and light between the two Anti EU groups? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36033766 "There are a number of judgements according to the Electoral Commission’s own criteria that do not make sense and we shall be raising those inconsistencies in our action. It is to be regretted that this process may put the referendum back until October but if we are to avoid the most important vote of our lives being rigged then I feel duty bound to take this course of action.”
If it was put back to October Cameron would be pissed off at having wasted £9.6 million. (Every one else already is)
Sky News are reporting that Goldman Sachs has told staff in Europe that they are not allowed to campaign for either side in the referendum.
How can they stop staff doing something in their private life? Provided that the person doesn't link what they have to say to GS I don't see the issue. Indeed, it seems to me interference with the electoral process. Staff in the UK are voters and are entitled to take as much interest in this vote as in any other.
If you work at Goldman Sachs, it's unlikely you'll have much time for a private life.
My sister instilled a decent drinking culture in her team when she was there.
Now Vote Leave have won designation am I correct in assuming they will accept free movement of labour as part of their new treaty
What new treaty is that?
The new deal they are going to broker with the EU
I'm beginning to think you're a spoof.
Leave won't be brokering anything, that will be the govt, led by Cameron.
I suspect you know that and you're chuckling at me.
No - it is a genuine question that needs a responsible answer and not prevarication. If it was honest and credible I could vote for leave. The reason I am not committed yet is that I think this referendum may be won by leave on a false promise of stopping free movement of labour
Like the Tory false promise of cutting immigration, presumably.
You are avoiding my point. Will leave agree that free movement of labour is a benefit and that the deal brokered with the EU will allow that to continue but will at the same time return sovereignty to the UK. Convince me on that and I would vote leave
Did blackburn become a spokesman for the Leave campaign while I was at dinner, he can't promise you anything, he can't even tell you what the campaign themes will be since they haven't been announced. But you know all that.
Thanks for that - I genuinely didn't know that leave haven't decided on their position. I look foreward to the campaign. As a side issue Gove will be a big player in the campaign and also in the unifying cabinet post 23rd
Personally I am a big fan of Gove and wish him well, but the PM's track record for treating people that oppose him generously isn't that well known, unless you know something I don't.
Sky News are reporting that Goldman Sachs has told staff in Europe that they are not allowed to campaign for either side in the referendum.
How can they stop staff doing something in their private life? Provided that the person doesn't link what they have to say to GS I don't see the issue. Indeed, it seems to me interference with the electoral process. Staff in the UK are voters and are entitled to take as much interest in this vote as in any other.
If you work at Goldman Sachs, it's unlikely you'll have much time for a private life.
Ha, my experience of them and across the City generally. Obv. not insurance which remains the largest bastion of the three pint lunch.
As I said this primary for the GOP has been catastrophic, and they are realizing now how catastrophic it is.
The only way they can patch things up a bit is probably to nominate a Trump, not necessarily The Trump but his daughter Ivanka.
There is a lot of praise for Ivanka Trump in the american media as the more mature and serious of the Trumps, and the praise is already at such heights that there is demand from the media that she should be the compromise candidate for the GOP, something like Marine LePen.
Now Vote Leave have won designation am I correct in assuming they will accept free movement of labour as part of their new treaty
What new treaty is that?
The new deal they are going to broker with the EU
I'm beginning to think you're a spoof.
Leave won't be brokering anything, that will be the govt, led by Cameron.
I suspect you know that and you're chuckling at me.
No - it is a genuine question that needs a responsible answer and not prevarication. If it was honest and credible I could vote for leave. The reason I am not committed yet is that I think this referendum may be won by leave on a false promise of stopping free movement of labour
Is it a false promise ?
If the public voted say 60% out on the basis of thinking it was going to get no free movement, it would be political suicide to go for an EEA/EFTA solution, irrespective of what the Leave campaign says. That call is one the government of the day will have to make based on how the referendum goes, who it least cares about pissing off, and how much political capital it thinks it has.
And I sorry but what he says isn't prevarication, its how the world is. Leave can suggest what it wants, the government chooses what happens.
I don't believe you are a waver at all to be honest, your line of questioning has been conspicuously aimed at trying to drive a wedge between the different factions of the leave camp, Nabavi and Meeks were playing the same game a month or so ago, and sadly for them and you, the leave campaign is smart enough (so far) not to bite.
This is not a conspiracy by me. Just wanting a fair answer to free movement of labour
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"But Rusbridger, who retired after 20 years as editor, has now risen to the chairmanship of the Scott Trust itself"
I thought he had buggered off to an Oxford College to spend his days implementing Safe Spaces and alike?
As for the main point, I would suggest you make a further complaint to EMT, and also send it to DfT and ORR.
As an aside, that line has seen some improvements by the operator:
http://www.eastmidlandstrains.co.uk/train-times/Improvements-on-our-Nottingham-to-Newark-Castle-and-Lincoln-services/
Aside from that, I'm not quite sure what it has to do with HS2, especially the billions being spent on the rest of the network's infrastructure.
Now millions of people across the UK have heard the immortal lines 'They've take all our fi-i-ish and money through the years' - as indeed they have.
Coincidence the polls turning after it was released??
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2015/03/24/ted-cruz-principled-or-smug-know-it-all/
Trump 50 .. Kasich 27 .. Cruz 17
Clinton 52 .. Sanders 42
http://files.ctctcdn.com/9c83fb30501/049d74a7-5f98-473d-a602-b22bd5d04017.pdf
Describing a complex problem as simple is always the first step to a disastrous solution.
With my engineer hat on, I'd never say there are never simple answers to complex problems, only simple bodges.
Perhaps this is Corbyn's strategy of trying to slip up the PM?
Trump 53 .. Cruz 25 .. Kasich 18
Clinton 49 .. Sanders 41
https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/04/13/tale-two-conventions/
One of the more laughable features of the Leave campaign is right wingers like Hannan wanting to keep the NHS a govt monopoly.
Yes sad news about Arnold. He was in a class- and a year- above me in my local synagogue's hebrew classes. When he was thirteen he suddenly shot up like a beanpole. We used to call him lamppost.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36033766
"There are a number of judgements according to the Electoral Commission’s own criteria that do not make sense and we shall be raising those inconsistencies in our action. It is to be regretted that this process may put the referendum back until October but if we are to avoid the most important vote of our lives being rigged then I feel duty bound to take this course of action.”
Those at home with mum and dad may be the most likely to be accurately registered.
1. There is no requirement for signatories to keep intellectual property laws in lock-step with the EU.
2. ISDS Tribunals are not held in secret.
I'd be very surprised if Banks gets anywhere with his judicial review threat. For a start, I wasn't even aware that Leave.EU even applied for designation, they supported Grassroots Out didn't they, so before they try to persuade a Judge that there is a case to answer, they presumably need to persuade GO to mount the legal challenge. Is GO that bothered?
Even if GO did mount a challenge, I'd be very surprised if this went before the courts and resulted in a judgment before 23rd June, barely 2 months from now - and it would need to be well before 23 June given the infrastructure, work and cost that needs to be up and running and in place to allow a referendum to take place then. So what would GO do - the Electoral Commission isn't running the referendum, so whilst an injunction could conceivably be obtained to prevent the vote going ahead on 23 June, it would presumably need to bring in the Govt to the proceedings and they aren't the ones whose decision here is actually being impugned.
And even then, I would be flabbergasted if a single High Court judge would risk allowing something as massively big as the EU referendum to be delayed so that basically a sore loser could have his day in court. There would have to be the most obvious and egregious irrationality or flaw in the Electoral Commission's process to even get a Judge into the territory of considering it.
Interesting stuff, but I really can't see a JR getting anywhere. At all.
I recall a fair few comments along these lines last May - "I'm in Leeds for uni, but I'm registered in London."
Problem is no one is interested in solving complex problems.
It takes longer than a parliament, always makes too many enemies, and mostly costs more than anyone wants to spend, so it gets brushed under the carpet.
Maria Sharapova may be let off the hook:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/apr/13/wada-one-microgram-meldonium-vitaly-mutko
Clinton 50 .. Trump 37
Clinton 47 .. Cruz 40
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/LRPmemo.GeorgiaDemocraticParty.F.041116.pdf
Trump 47 .. Kasich 27 .. Cruz 19
http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/30917857-2499-4187-93a8-772b31cfe275.pdf
BTW I'll be on Centre Court on second Monday!
Sample only 400 so MoE higher. Under normal circumstances Georgia should be a comfortable hold but the times they ain't a normal.
http://penelopecruznaked.com/wp-content/sites/67/2008/12/post-2a-300x206.jpg
I applied for the raffle for tickets, but didn't get any
Leave won't be brokering anything, that will be the govt, led by Cameron.
I suspect you know that and you're chuckling at me.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_delegate_count.html
It's a love match!
If the public voted say 60% out on the basis of thinking it was going to get no free movement, it would be political suicide to go for an EEA/EFTA solution, irrespective of what the Leave campaign says. That call is one the government of the day will have to make based on how the referendum goes, who it least cares about pissing off, and how much political capital it thinks it has.
And I sorry but what he says isn't prevarication, its how the world is. Leave can suggest what it wants, the government chooses what happens.
I don't believe you are a waver at all to be honest, your line of questioning has been conspicuously aimed at trying to drive a wedge between the different factions of the leave camp, Nabavi and Meeks were playing the same game a month or so ago, and sadly for them and you, the leave campaign is smart enough (so far) not to bite.
They must been getting worried.
They don't want to be seen supporting the losing side.
https://twitter.com/DanHannanMEP/status/719925865765855233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz20lu2AM2k
The only way they can patch things up a bit is probably to nominate a Trump, not necessarily The Trump but his daughter Ivanka.
There is a lot of praise for Ivanka Trump in the american media as the more mature and serious of the Trumps, and the praise is already at such heights that there is demand from the media that she should be the compromise candidate for the GOP, something like Marine LePen.