Either Raheem Kassan is the world's fastest typing journalist/publisher, or that piece was preprepared and the toys were out the pram just waiting for EC confirmation of a betting certainty...
They appear to be complaining in essence that the decision appears to have been made last night and that the EC was jumping the gun when the moment of truth was meant to be today.
I would be very surprised if the decision hadn't been taken a couple of weeks ago, to give time for it to be read and rubber stamped by the various levels of management and their lawyers. It's possible something leaked out of the EC a day or two ago, but it's hardly likely to be their fault, and the leak of something that has been decided but hasn't been announced is hard a novelty, it happens most budgets for one thing!
I don't follow how, even if there is a judicial review, how that would delay the Referendum?
By asking the courts to grant an injunction to stop Vote Leave doing anything, thus saying by the time the courts have resolved it, there isn't enough time for a proper campaign
Sparrow: - Grassroots Out has put out a statement congratulating Vote Leave on winning the designation. This is from Peter Bone, a Conservative MP and Grassroots Out spokesman.
We congratulate Vote Leave on securing designation and we thank our supporters for all the hard work they have put into the campaign so far.
We draw our support from right across the political spectrum and from tens of thousands of grassroots campaigners of no particular political affiliation.
We are motivated by a deep sense of patriotism and the unflinching belief that the UK will be safer, stronger and more independent outside the EU. We will be able to control our own borders, build our prosperity by trading freely with the whole world, and restore our historic right to self government.
We look forward to working closely and productively with all those who want to see the UK set free to determine its own destiny. We are determined to play our part in creating a united front to secure victory on June 23 for Leave – Independence Day.
I don't follow how, even if there is a judicial review, how that would delay the Referendum?
By asking the courts to grant an injunction to stop Vote Leave do anything, thus saying by the time the courts have resolved it, there isn't enough time for a proper campaign
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
Way too long. IIRC, the John Galt speech alone was about 70 pages. Have to admit, I sped read that part.
I think it's worth a read if you have any interest in understanding libertarianism, particularly in the US. And Greenspan was a devotee of Ayn Rand, so it provides some insights into his stewardship of the Fed.
Snippet, Rand Paul is not named after Ayn Rand, despite his father's libertarianism. He is Randal Howard Paul.
Sparrow: - Grassroots Out has put out a statement congratulating Vote Leave on winning the designation. This is from Peter Bone, a Conservative MP and Grassroots Out spokesman.
We congratulate Vote Leave on securing designation and we thank our supporters for all the hard work they have put into the campaign so far.
We draw our support from right across the political spectrum and from tens of thousands of grassroots campaigners of no particular political affiliation.
We are motivated by a deep sense of patriotism and the unflinching belief that the UK will be safer, stronger and more independent outside the EU. We will be able to control our own borders, build our prosperity by trading freely with the whole world, and restore our historic right to self government.
We look forward to working closely and productively with all those who want to see the UK set free to determine its own destiny. We are determined to play our part in creating a united front to secure victory on June 23 for Leave – Independence Day.
(Apologies if already posted.)
That IS good news. Now all it needs is for the esteemed Nigel to concur. If he doesn't, I can see the fracture in UKIP break wide open.
I don't follow how, even if there is a judicial review, how that would delay the Referendum?
By asking the courts to grant an injunction to stop Vote Leave doing anything, thus saying by the time the courts have resolved it, there isn't enough time for a proper campaign
And if that doesn't work? We have a vote where the leave side has not been able to campaign or get its voice out there. Banks needs to STFU and Farage needs to tell him where to go with this fucking bullshit. Grow some fucking balls Nige.
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
Way too long. IIRC, the John Galt speech alone was about 70 pages. Have to admit, I sped read that part.
I think it's worth a read if you have any interest in understanding libertarianism, particularly in the US. And Greenspan was a devotee of Ayn Rand, so it provides some insights into his stewardship of the Fed.
Snippet, Rand Paul is not named after Ayn Rand, despite his father's libertarianism. He is Randal Howard Paul.
Sparrow: - Grassroots Out has put out a statement congratulating Vote Leave on winning the designation. This is from Peter Bone, a Conservative MP and Grassroots Out spokesman.
We congratulate Vote Leave on securing designation and we thank our supporters for all the hard work they have put into the campaign so far.
We draw our support from right across the political spectrum and from tens of thousands of grassroots campaigners of no particular political affiliation.
We are motivated by a deep sense of patriotism and the unflinching belief that the UK will be safer, stronger and more independent outside the EU. We will be able to control our own borders, build our prosperity by trading freely with the whole world, and restore our historic right to self government.
We look forward to working closely and productively with all those who want to see the UK set free to determine its own destiny. We are determined to play our part in creating a united front to secure victory on June 23 for Leave – Independence Day.
(Apologies if already posted.)
So will 23 June - Independence Day - now supplant 21 April (Queen's Birthday) on the UK national holidays calendar?
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
It's terribly turgid I will agree.
The short version is what would happen if the rich and powerful took their ball and went home, if they decided that they were getting so much grief from the politicians and media that it really wasn't worth the hassle, so they closed their business and went and enjoyed their money.
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
in Delhi airport newsagents 2 years ago: Ayn RAnd books 10. Orwell 0.
not convinced this is a good thing (no, never read them either. There are too many good books out there waiting)
I don't follow how, even if there is a judicial review, how that would delay the Referendum?
By asking the courts to grant an injunction to stop Vote Leave doing anything, thus saying by the time the courts have resolved it, there isn't enough time for a proper campaign
And if that doesn't work? We have a vote where the leave side has not been able to campaign or get its voice out there. Banks needs to STFU and Farage needs to tell him where to go with this fucking bullshit. Grow some fucking balls Nige.
As we discussed a few weeks ago, given Farage's epic failures to become an MP, why would he want to give up his MEP's salary and attendant allowances?
It may have passed unmentioned on here, but the HS2 bill passed its third reading, with 399 MPs voting for and only 42 against. If it passes through the Lords then construction will start next year.
In news from the north, Trans-Pennine Express is going to be getting 140-MPH capable (*) trains, which should have 161 extra seats per train. They will be similar to the new bi-mode (electric and diesel) Hitachi trains ordered for the Great Western line.
(*) 125 MPH initially, depending on line speed. Ahem.
Either Raheem Kassan is the world's fastest typing journalist/publisher, or that piece was preprepared and the toys were out the pram just waiting for EC confirmation of a betting certainty...
They appear to be complaining in essence that the decision appears to have been made last night and that the EC was jumping the gun when the moment of truth was meant to be today.
I would be very surprised if the decision hadn't been taken a couple of weeks ago, to give time for it to be read and rubber stamped by the various levels of management and their lawyers. It's possible something leaked out of the EC a day or two ago, but it's hardly likely to be their fault, and the leak of something that has been decided but hasn't been announced is hard a novelty, it happens most budgets for one thing!
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
Way too long. IIRC, the John Galt speech alone was about 70 pages. Have to admit, I sped read that part.
I think it's worth a read if you have any interest in understanding libertarianism, particularly in the US. And Greenspan was a devotee of Ayn Rand, so it provides some insights into his stewardship of the Fed.
Snippet, Rand Paul is not named after Ayn Rand, despite his father's libertarianism. He is Randal Howard Paul.
Ayn Rand was mad as a box of frogs.
Indeed. It does not mean that she was without influence, though.
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
Way too long. IIRC, the John Galt speech alone was about 70 pages. Have to admit, I sped read that part.
I think it's worth a read if you have any interest in understanding libertarianism, particularly in the US. And Greenspan was a devotee of Ayn Rand, so it provides some insights into his stewardship of the Fed.
Snippet, Rand Paul is not named after Ayn Rand, despite his father's libertarianism. He is Randal Howard Paul.
Ayn Rand was mad as a box of frogs.
No, Ayn Rand wasn't mad in seeing a sort of bliss in Selfishness; just too rigid in her beliefs.
Sparrow: - Grassroots Out has put out a statement congratulating Vote Leave on winning the designation. This is from Peter Bone, a Conservative MP and Grassroots Out spokesman.
We congratulate Vote Leave on securing designation and we thank our supporters for all the hard work they have put into the campaign so far.
We draw our support from right across the political spectrum and from tens of thousands of grassroots campaigners of no particular political affiliation.
We are motivated by a deep sense of patriotism and the unflinching belief that the UK will be safer, stronger and more independent outside the EU. We will be able to control our own borders, build our prosperity by trading freely with the whole world, and restore our historic right to self government.
We look forward to working closely and productively with all those who want to see the UK set free to determine its own destiny. We are determined to play our part in creating a united front to secure victory on June 23 for Leave – Independence Day.
Nigel Farage has a big moment now. If his voice is not raised against Vote Leave, any challenge will evaporate. If he decides to fight, he will carry a large part of UKIP with him outside the tent.
The decision, while expected, is awful news for him. Come what may, UKIP are not going to own the Leave campaign now.
Can he afford (in financial terms) to not go with Arron Banks ?
Can he afford (in political terms) to go with Arron Banks ?
Either way, it's very entertaining watching the nutters cage fight.
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
It's terribly turgid I will agree.
The short version is what would happen if the rich and powerful took their ball and went home, if they decided that they were getting so much grief from the politicians and media that it really wasn't worth the hassle, so they closed their business and went and enjoyed their money.
Or, conversely, what happens when economies are planned centrally by corrupt, cronyist, unelected officials. EU, anyone?
I don't follow how, even if there is a judicial review, how that would delay the Referendum?
By asking the courts to grant an injunction to stop Vote Leave doing anything, thus saying by the time the courts have resolved it, there isn't enough time for a proper campaign
And if that doesn't work? We have a vote where the leave side has not been able to campaign or get its voice out there. Banks needs to STFU and Farage needs to tell him where to go with this fucking bullshit. Grow some fucking balls Nige.
As we discussed a few weeks ago, given Farage's epic failures to become an MP, why would he want to give up his MEP's salary and attendant allowances?
Yes, well Farage and Banks are the biggest threats to a leave vote right now.
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
Way too long. IIRC, the John Galt speech alone was about 70 pages. Have to admit, I sped read that part.
I think it's worth a read if you have any interest in understanding libertarianism, particularly in the US. And Greenspan was a devotee of Ayn Rand, so it provides some insights into his stewardship of the Fed.
Snippet, Rand Paul is not named after Ayn Rand, despite his father's libertarianism. He is Randal Howard Paul.
Ayn Rand was mad as a box of frogs.
No, Ayn Rand wasn't mad in seeing a sort of bliss in Selfishness; just too rigid in her beliefs.
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
Way too long. IIRC, the John Galt speech alone was about 70 pages. Have to admit, I sped read that part.
I think it's worth a read if you have any interest in understanding libertarianism, particularly in the US. And Greenspan was a devotee of Ayn Rand, so it provides some insights into his stewardship of the Fed.
Snippet, Rand Paul is not named after Ayn Rand, despite his father's libertarianism. He is Randal Howard Paul.
Ayn Rand was mad as a box of frogs.
No, Ayn Rand wasn't mad in seeing a sort of bliss in Selfishness; just too rigid in her beliefs.
No, she really was as mad as a box of frogs.
And I speak as someone who enjoyed both The Fountainhead, and Atlas Shrugged.
Little know fact: the Howard Roark character from The Fountainhead was based on a meeting Ayn Rand had with a young Nick Clegg.
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
It's terribly turgid I will agree.
The short version is what would happen if the rich and powerful took their ball and went home, if they decided that they were getting so much grief from the politicians and media that it really wasn't worth the hassle, so they closed their business and went and enjoyed their money.
Or, conversely, what happens when economies are planned centrally by corrupt, cronyist, unelected officials. EU, anyone?
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
Way too long. IIRC, the John Galt speech alone was about 70 pages. Have to admit, I sped read that part.
I think it's worth a read if you have any interest in understanding libertarianism, particularly in the US. And Greenspan was a devotee of Ayn Rand, so it provides some insights into his stewardship of the Fed.
Snippet, Rand Paul is not named after Ayn Rand, despite his father's libertarianism. He is Randal Howard Paul.
Ayn Rand was mad as a box of frogs.
No, Ayn Rand wasn't mad in seeing a sort of bliss in Selfishness; just too rigid in her beliefs.
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
It's terribly turgid I will agree.
The short version is what would happen if the rich and powerful took their ball and went home, if they decided that they were getting so much grief from the politicians and media that it really wasn't worth the hassle, so they closed their business and went and enjoyed their money.
Or, conversely, what happens when economies are planned centrally by corrupt, cronyist, unelected officials. EU, anyone?
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
Way too long. IIRC, the John Galt speech alone was about 70 pages. Have to admit, I sped read that part.
I think it's worth a read if you have any interest in understanding libertarianism, particularly in the US. And Greenspan was a devotee of Ayn Rand, so it provides some insights into his stewardship of the Fed.
Snippet, Rand Paul is not named after Ayn Rand, despite his father's libertarianism. He is Randal Howard Paul.
Ayn Rand was mad as a box of frogs.
No, Ayn Rand wasn't mad in seeing a sort of bliss in Selfishness; just too rigid in her beliefs.
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
It's terribly turgid I will agree.
The short version is what would happen if the rich and powerful took their ball and went home, if they decided that they were getting so much grief from the politicians and media that it really wasn't worth the hassle, so they closed their business and went and enjoyed their money.
Or, conversely, what happens when economies are planned centrally by corrupt, cronyist, unelected officials. EU, anyone?
Errr... I think that's stretching it.
The EU bit, yes. The first sentence, no.
Have you read The Road to Serfdom? I ask, because (a) it's a great book, and (b) it doesn't say what people think it says.
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
Way too long. IIRC, the John Galt speech alone was about 70 pages. Have to admit, I sped read that part.
I think it's worth a read if you have any interest in understanding libertarianism, particularly in the US. And Greenspan was a devotee of Ayn Rand, so it provides some insights into his stewardship of the Fed.
Snippet, Rand Paul is not named after Ayn Rand, despite his father's libertarianism. He is Randal Howard Paul.
Ayn Rand was mad as a box of frogs.
No, Ayn Rand wasn't mad in seeing a sort of bliss in Selfishness; just too rigid in her beliefs.
No, she really was as mad as a box of frogs.
And I speak as someone who enjoyed both The Fountainhead, and Atlas Shrugged.
Little know fact: the Howard Roark character from The Fountainhead was based on a meeting Ayn Rand had with a young Nick Clegg.
I tried a re-read of Atlas Shrugged a few months ago and had to stop on page 33. Funny what a span of 50 years will do.
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
Way too long. IIRC, the John Galt speech alone was about 70 pages. Have to admit, I sped read that part.
I think it's worth a read if you have any interest in understanding libertarianism, particularly in the US. And Greenspan was a devotee of Ayn Rand, so it provides some insights into his stewardship of the Fed.
Snippet, Rand Paul is not named after Ayn Rand, despite his father's libertarianism. He is Randal Howard Paul.
Ayn Rand was mad as a box of frogs.
No, Ayn Rand wasn't mad in seeing a sort of bliss in Selfishness; just too rigid in her beliefs.
Not too rigid to enjoy the benisons of state welfare in her later years of course.
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
It's terribly turgid I will agree.
The short version is what would happen if the rich and powerful took their ball and went home, if they decided that they were getting so much grief from the politicians and media that it really wasn't worth the hassle, so they closed their business and went and enjoyed their money.
Or, conversely, what happens when economies are planned centrally by corrupt, cronyist, unelected officials. EU, anyone?
Errr... I think that's stretching it.
The EU bit, yes. The first sentence, no.
Have you read The Road to Serfdom? I ask, because (a) it's a great book, and (b) it doesn't say what people think it says.
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
It's terribly turgid I will agree.
The short version is what would happen if the rich and powerful took their ball and went home, if they decided that they were getting so much grief from the politicians and media that it really wasn't worth the hassle, so they closed their business and went and enjoyed their money.
Or, conversely, what happens when economies are planned centrally by corrupt, cronyist, unelected officials. EU, anyone?
Errr... I think that's stretching it.
The EU bit, yes. The first sentence, no.
Have you read The Road to Serfdom? I ask, because (a) it's a great book, and (b) it doesn't say what people think it says.
Some on here are misjudging Farage, he has campaigned for this for 20 years, if we Leave on 23/6 he can ride off into the sunset and name his price, if not his life's work will be scarred by failure. He'll do nothing to jeopardise that.
Either way I'd say he won't be Ukip leader much beyond the referendum.
It may have passed unmentioned on here, but the HS2 bill passed its third reading, with 399 MPs voting for and only 42 against. If it passes through the Lords then construction will start next year.
In news from the north, Trans-Pennine Express is going to be getting 140-MPH capable (*) trains, which should have 161 extra seats per train. They will be similar to the new bi-mode (electric and diesel) Hitachi trains ordered for the Great Western line.
(*) 125 MPH initially, depending on line speed. Ahem.
Meanwhile the morning service from Newark to Lincoln consists of a single carriage which is so overcrowded that the crew regularly have to refuse to let any more people on. It has been like this for several years and at peak times has over 80 people standing. The Operator says that they cannot do anything about it because all their carriages are in use.
Interesting fact, according to East Midlands Trains, unlike buses there is no legal limit as to how many people can be carried in a train carriage.
Here the full statement from Nigel Farage on the decision.
"I congratulate Vote Leave on getting designation.
The decision of Ukip to back Grassroots Out was on the basis that they saw the importance of the immigration issue in this referendum, and that we wanted to reach out across the country at a grassroots level and work with everyone from the left, centre and right of British politics to get our country out of the EU. I believe this approach is the only way the Leave side can win this referendum.
It is clear that Vote Leave now share my view on this approach, for instance the issue of EU open borders is now a prominent part of their campaign messaging.
Regardless of whichever campaign got the designation, Ukip would always have played a big role in this campaign as the only national party committed to leaving the EU and with a substantial £4m spending limit.
I have always wanted all on the Leave side to come together and have done my best to try and make this happen. I’ll continue to do so in the run up to the referendum to ensure the Leave side wins.
We in Ukip, as I’ve said from the start, will work with anyone that wants to leave the EU. We must work together to get our country out of the European Union."
This is where Farage and I have always been at odds, he believes immigration should be the be all, and end all of the Leave campaign, he is wrong, it is but one part in a much greater picture imho.
If, as seems entirely possible, both REMAIN and Khan win their respective polls simply on the basis of female and non-white votes, how much longer will white males put up with representative democracy?
Atlas will Shrug.
That book was written by a woman.
Congratulations.
Do you remember what it suggested about people who no longer felt they were getting an equitable return from society ?
No, I've never read it.
A wise decision.
It's terribly turgid I will agree.
The short version is what would happen if the rich and powerful took their ball and went home, if they decided that they were getting so much grief from the politicians and media that it really wasn't worth the hassle, so they closed their business and went and enjoyed their money.
Or, conversely, what happens when economies are planned centrally by corrupt, cronyist, unelected officials. EU, anyone?
Errr... I think that's stretching it.
The EU bit, yes. The first sentence, no.
Have you read The Road to Serfdom? I ask, because (a) it's a great book, and (b) it doesn't say what people think it says.
Here the full statement from Nigel Farage on the decision.
"I congratulate Vote Leave on getting designation.
The decision of Ukip to back Grassroots Out was on the basis that they saw the importance of the immigration issue in this referendum, and that we wanted to reach out across the country at a grassroots level and work with everyone from the left, centre and right of British politics to get our country out of the EU. I believe this approach is the only way the Leave side can win this referendum.
It is clear that Vote Leave now share my view on this approach, for instance the issue of EU open borders is now a prominent part of their campaign messaging.
Regardless of whichever campaign got the designation, Ukip would always have played a big role in this campaign as the only national party committed to leaving the EU and with a substantial £4m spending limit.
I have always wanted all on the Leave side to come together and have done my best to try and make this happen. I’ll continue to do so in the run up to the referendum to ensure the Leave side wins.
We in Ukip, as I’ve said from the start, will work with anyone that wants to leave the EU. We must work together to get our country out of the European Union."
This is where Farage and I have always been at odds, he believes immigration should be the be all, and end all of the Leave campaign, he is wrong, it is but one part in a much greater picture imho.
He doesn't see it as the be all and end all, he sees it as an important factor, as he states clearly.
Wall Street now struggling at just the 2,845 points above 15,000....
FTSE tumbling to 6,300+.
Scrapberg news.
I'm sorry that's not correct. Hunchman assured us all that we would be in the middle of a sovereign debt crisis right now, and stocks would be pretty much worthless.
Wall Street now struggling at just the 2,845 points above 15,000....
FTSE tumbling to 6,300+.
Scrapberg news.
I'm sorry that's not correct. Hunchman assured us all that we would be in the middle of a sovereign debt crisis right now, and stocks would be pretty much worthless.
I'm covering for Mike K - he's the bear news, I'm the one full of bull.
Totally and utterly gutted, but not really surprised, that The Sunil on Sunday's "Be Leave" hasn't been chosen as the official LEAVE Campaign. But remember our positive message:
As for Rusbridger's Guardian, in an age of low interest rates and costly internet economics, that Guardian is either a thing of the past or on a suicide mission.
Well done, my estimation of Farage has gone up a tad.
Now he has to write that second sentence, saying he will join them.
Unless that second sentence says "For now."?
I think what you should remember that EACH group registered can spend £700,000 and if they receive large donations from e.g. Midland Businessmen, then they can spend it how they chose. UKIP can spend £4 million, although that is dwarfed by how much the other main parties can spend (Lib Lab Con) BSE and VL can spend £7 million and the Government (well anyone) can spend as much as they like before the spending rules come in.
If GO merged with VL then the potential money available to the LEAVE campaign drops substantially (at least the means to spend it effectively).
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They appear to be complaining in essence that the decision appears to have been made last night and that the EC was jumping the gun when the moment of truth was meant to be today.
I would be very surprised if the decision hadn't been taken a couple of weeks ago, to give time for it to be read and rubber stamped by the various levels of management and their lawyers. It's possible something leaked out of the EC a day or two ago, but it's hardly likely to be their fault, and the leak of something that has been decided but hasn't been announced is hard a novelty, it happens most budgets for one thing!
Peter Bone seems quite willing to work with Vote Leave, so Banks may be on his own.
#Pockettalking
We congratulate Vote Leave on securing designation and we thank our supporters for all the hard work they have put into the campaign so far.
We draw our support from right across the political spectrum and from tens of thousands of grassroots campaigners of no particular political affiliation.
We are motivated by a deep sense of patriotism and the unflinching belief that the UK will be safer, stronger and more independent outside the EU. We will be able to control our own borders, build our prosperity by trading freely with the whole world, and restore our historic right to self government.
We look forward to working closely and productively with all those who want to see the UK set free to determine its own destiny. We are determined to play our part in creating a united front to secure victory on June 23 for Leave – Independence Day.
(Apologies if already posted.)
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I think it's worth a read if you have any interest in understanding libertarianism, particularly in the US. And Greenspan was a devotee of Ayn Rand, so it provides some insights into his stewardship of the Fed.
Snippet, Rand Paul is not named after Ayn Rand, despite his father's libertarianism. He is Randal Howard Paul.
The short version is what would happen if the rich and powerful took their ball and went home, if they decided that they were getting so much grief from the politicians and media that it really wasn't worth the hassle, so they closed their business and went and enjoyed their money.
not convinced this is a good thing (no, never read them either. There are too many good books out there waiting)
It may have passed unmentioned on here, but the HS2 bill passed its third reading, with 399 MPs voting for and only 42 against. If it passes through the Lords then construction will start next year.
In news from the north, Trans-Pennine Express is going to be getting 140-MPH capable (*) trains, which should have 161 extra seats per train. They will be similar to the new bi-mode (electric and diesel) Hitachi trains ordered for the Great Western line.
(*) 125 MPH initially, depending on line speed. Ahem.
Chances of winning: 73% Remain
Vote share: 54% Remain, 46% Leave
Margin of error ±13 pts https://t.co/naGGYrlApZ
And I speak as someone who enjoyed both The Fountainhead, and Atlas Shrugged.
Little know fact: the Howard Roark character from The Fountainhead was based on a meeting Ayn Rand had with a young Nick Clegg.
Gordon Brown, Ed Miliband and now Arron Banks/Nigel Farage
Have you read The Road to Serfdom? I ask, because (a) it's a great book, and (b) it doesn't say what people think it says.
http://activatecomix.com/162-1-1.comic
(Actually very good IMO).
I congratulate @vote_leave on getting designation.
Can never be sure with Farage but it doesn't sound like a designation challenge to me.
Well done, my estimation of Farage has gone up a tad.
What price Dan Hannan next conservative leader?
Either way I'd say he won't be Ukip leader much beyond the referendum.
And I look forward to seeing and chatting to Dan Hannan. In court.
https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/720265326315892736
Interesting fact, according to East Midlands Trains, unlike buses there is no legal limit as to how many people can be carried in a train carriage.
Although I didn't realise he was that young..
"I congratulate Vote Leave on getting designation.
The decision of Ukip to back Grassroots Out was on the basis that they saw the importance of the immigration issue in this referendum, and that we wanted to reach out across the country at a grassroots level and work with everyone from the left, centre and right of British politics to get our country out of the EU. I believe this approach is the only way the Leave side can win this referendum.
It is clear that Vote Leave now share my view on this approach, for instance the issue of EU open borders is now a prominent part of their campaign messaging.
Regardless of whichever campaign got the designation, Ukip would always have played a big role in this campaign as the only national party committed to leaving the EU and with a substantial £4m spending limit.
I have always wanted all on the Leave side to come together and have done my best to try and make this happen. I’ll continue to do so in the run up to the referendum to ensure the Leave side wins.
We in Ukip, as I’ve said from the start, will work with anyone that wants to leave the EU. We must work together to get our country out of the European Union."
This is where Farage and I have always been at odds, he believes immigration should be the be all, and end all of the Leave campaign, he is wrong, it is but one part in a much greater picture imho.
I follow several on Twitter and its rather good to see the same broad objectives shared. Especially on trade.
FTSE tumbling to 6,300+.
Scrapberg news.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk
His legal team argued there was no right "to stimulate one's genitals."
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/04/ted-cruz-dildo-ban-sex-devices-texas
https://twitter.com/clmazin/status/720259227067920385
Another £7m shouldn't be a problem now.
http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/200857/designation-summary-of-assessment-scores-for-leave-outcome.pdf
Totally and utterly gutted, but not really surprised, that The Sunil on Sunday's "Be Leave" hasn't been chosen as the official LEAVE Campaign. But remember our positive message:
Believe in BRITAIN!
Be LEAVE!
The guy who was Ted Cruz room mate....the man who brought us
Scary Movie 3
Scary Movie 4
The Hangover Part II
The Hangover Part III
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Mazin
I don't know which of these two guys has the more embarrassing history ;-)
If GO merged with VL then the potential money available to the LEAVE campaign drops substantially (at least the means to spend it effectively).
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/720270633012101120