Next time someone asks me to explain the difference between the Tories ruthlessness and Labour when it comes to leader/potential leaders, this past week is the perfect example.
An unpopular chancellor on course to be party leader/PM that we all know that will go down badly with the voters,
Labour elected him as leader via a coronation
The Tories knobbled him before he could even stand.
One man died so he could be reborn, to deliver a budget to save all our sins.
Next time someone asks me to explain the difference between the Tories ruthlessness and Labour when it comes to leader/potential leaders, this past week is the perfect example.
An unpopular chancellor on course to be party leader/PM that we all know that will go down badly with the voters,
Labour elected him as leader via a coronation
The Tories knobbled him before he could even stand.
Not quite right. Gordon Brown was a campaign asset in the 2005 GE. He was also a campaign asset in ScotRef.
Arguably, especially considering what followed, he was an asset in 2010.
Robert Shrimley This is literally the best story ever: Microsoft's AI twitter bot turned racist after 15 hours on twitter https://t.co/5RKIchXmUW
The tech company introduced "Tay" this week — a bot that responds to users' queries and emulates the casual, jokey speech patterns of a stereotypical millennial.
The aim was to "experiment with and conduct research on conversational understanding," with Tay able to learn from "her" conversations and get progressively "smarter."
But Tay proved a smash hit with racists, trolls, and online troublemakers — who persuaded Tay to blithely use racial slurs, defend white supremacist propaganda, and even outright call for genocide.
The best bit
In one highly publicised tweet, which has since been deleted, Tay said: "bush did 9/11 and Hitler would have done a better job than the monkey we have now. donald trump is the only hope we've got." In another, responding to a question, she said "ricky gervais learned totalitarianism from adolf hitler, the inventor of atheism."
From an engineering point of view, if the goal was to pass a Twitter Turing-test and pass for human, it sounds like it succeeded admirably.
I think its cool "i do indeed" in response to "Do you support genocide?" is the highlight.
Robert Shrimley This is literally the best story ever: Microsoft's AI twitter bot turned racist after 15 hours on twitter https://t.co/5RKIchXmUW
The tech company introduced "Tay" this week — a bot that responds to users' queries and emulates the casual, jokey speech patterns of a stereotypical millennial.
The aim was to "experiment with and conduct research on conversational understanding," with Tay able to learn from "her" conversations and get progressively "smarter."
But Tay proved a smash hit with racists, trolls, and online troublemakers — who persuaded Tay to blithely use racial slurs, defend white supremacist propaganda, and even outright call for genocide.
The best bit
In one highly publicised tweet, which has since been deleted, Tay said: "bush did 9/11 and Hitler would have done a better job than the monkey we have now. donald trump is the only hope we've got." In another, responding to a question, she said "ricky gervais learned totalitarianism from adolf hitler, the inventor of atheism."
Its like the episode out of the Good Wife all over again (which was based upon a real incident at Google, where their image matching algorithms displayed African American's as a result to the search Monkey)
The strikes including emergency cover will get the public into a "they're both as bad as each other" mood, which is good enough for the Gov't. Hunt's not backing down on this, as much as quite alot of people would like him to.
It will also feed into the narrative that the Tories are the best/unafraid of making touch decisions
The danger for the government is that the NHS dispute retoxifies the party, especially among the quacks and especially if Hunt wins.
There is no published EU ref VI in the Monitor data tables but the figures are given in a different poll published yesterday on whether people want to hear the Queens views on Brexit
Before weighting Leave 337 voters Remain 560 voters After weighting Leave 357 voters Remain 528 voters
Robert Shrimley This is literally the best story ever: Microsoft's AI twitter bot turned racist after 15 hours on twitter https://t.co/5RKIchXmUW
The tech company introduced "Tay" this week — a bot that responds to users' queries and emulates the casual, jokey speech patterns of a stereotypical millennial.
The aim was to "experiment with and conduct research on conversational understanding," with Tay able to learn from "her" conversations and get progressively "smarter."
But Tay proved a smash hit with racists, trolls, and online troublemakers — who persuaded Tay to blithely use racial slurs, defend white supremacist propaganda, and even outright call for genocide.
The best bit
In one highly publicised tweet, which has since been deleted, Tay said: "bush did 9/11 and Hitler would have done a better job than the monkey we have now. donald trump is the only hope we've got." In another, responding to a question, she said "ricky gervais learned totalitarianism from adolf hitler, the inventor of atheism."
From an engineering point of view, if the goal was to pass a Twitter Turing-test and pass for human, it sounds like it succeeded admirably.
I think its cool "i do indeed" in response to "Do you support genocide?" is the highlight.
The Twitter Turning-Test is that where the bar is set incredibly low, where you only need to be convinced the person at the other end is a total and utter moron and who can only speak in 140 character bursts?
The strikes including emergency cover will get the public into a "they're both as bad as each other" mood, which is good enough for the Gov't. Hunt's not backing down on this, as much as quite alot of people would like him to.
It will also feed into the narrative that the Tories are the best/unafraid of making touch decisions
The danger for the government is that the NHS dispute retoxifies the party, especially among the quacks.
Sam Coates There is unconfirmed talk of Jeremy Hunt to Commons Leader post referendum to help with Tory reunification - Tory source
Hmm. Hunt seems to have caused all the problems with Health that Gove did with Education without any of the success.
Also he's an EU welcher.
Hunt's got the contract through. It wasn't pretty how he did it, but he hasn't buckled like a Bojo certainly would in that position.
We haven’t seen how many are going to sign up in June/July though. Empty junior posts in August because those who “should” have filled them have gone elsewhere will bring problems.
Just as well not to let those who don't have the right outlook for the job get in the way of those that do. I assume they would be the more mercenary, who would leave for greener pastures anyway.
Why would we want them without an ethos that is not compatible with a Health Service.
Would certainty be a morale booster for the yellow peril.
Looks like an unwinding of the LD to Tory switchers who helped win the election for the Tories at GE.
Tories need to be careful and stay in the centre ground.
Cameron and Osborne seemed to want to, but will they be allowed to, or will they even be around to do so?
Being associated with cuts for the disabled is not sticking to the central ground. That was the choice of Osborne no one pushed him there. He created his rules, his targets and his choice of what to cut or tax. He drove the party off the main road.
This twitter bot thing...you have to feel sorry, some poor sods who probably resemble the cast of the Big Bang Theory are in a few hours going to be standing in front of a swearing big boss man ripping them a new one.
Robert Shrimley This is literally the best story ever: Microsoft's AI twitter bot turned racist after 15 hours on twitter https://t.co/5RKIchXmUW
The tech company introduced "Tay" this week — a bot that responds to users' queries and emulates the casual, jokey speech patterns of a stereotypical millennial.
The aim was to "experiment with and conduct research on conversational understanding," with Tay able to learn from "her" conversations and get progressively "smarter."
But Tay proved a smash hit with racists, trolls, and online troublemakers — who persuaded Tay to blithely use racial slurs, defend white supremacist propaganda, and even outright call for genocide.
The best bit
In one highly publicised tweet, which has since been deleted, Tay said: "bush did 9/11 and Hitler would have done a better job than the monkey we have now. donald trump is the only hope we've got." In another, responding to a question, she said "ricky gervais learned totalitarianism from adolf hitler, the inventor of atheism."
From an engineering point of view, if the goal was to pass a Twitter Turing-test and pass for human, it sounds like it succeeded admirably.
I think its cool "i do indeed" in response to "Do you support genocide?" is the highlight.
The Twitter Turning-Test is that where the bar is set incredibly low, where you only need to be convinced the person at the other end is a total any utter moron and who can only speak in 140 character bursts?
Robert Shrimley This is literally the best story ever: Microsoft's AI twitter bot turned racist after 15 hours on twitter https://t.co/5RKIchXmUW
The tech company introduced "Tay" this week — a bot that responds to users' queries and emulates the casual, jokey speech patterns of a stereotypical millennial.
The aim was to "experiment with and conduct research on conversational understanding," with Tay able to learn from "her" conversations and get progressively "smarter."
But Tay proved a smash hit with racists, trolls, and online troublemakers — who persuaded Tay to blithely use racial slurs, defend white supremacist propaganda, and even outright call for genocide.
The best bit
In one highly publicised tweet, which has since been deleted, Tay said: "bush did 9/11 and Hitler would have done a better job than the monkey we have now. donald trump is the only hope we've got." In another, responding to a question, she said "ricky gervais learned totalitarianism from adolf hitler, the inventor of atheism."
From an engineering point of view, if the goal was to pass a Twitter Turing-test and pass for human, it sounds like it succeeded admirably.
I think its cool "i do indeed" in response to "Do you support genocide?" is the highlight.
I think it's quite sad that they've shut it down. "Wrong kind of sentience" I guess.
Sam Coates There is unconfirmed talk of Jeremy Hunt to Commons Leader post referendum to help with Tory reunification - Tory source
Hmm. Hunt seems to have caused all the problems with Health that Gove did with Education without any of the success.
Also he's an EU welcher.
Hunt's got the contract through. It wasn't pretty how he did it, but he hasn't buckled like a Bojo certainly would in that position.
We haven’t seen how many are going to sign up in June/July though. Empty junior posts in August because those who “should” have filled them have gone elsewhere will bring problems.
Just as well not to let those who don't have the right outlook for the job get in the way of those that do. I assume they would be the more mercenary, who would leave for greener pastures anyway.
Why would we want them without an ethos that is compatible with a Health Service.
Well you want Hunt in charge of the NHS , a man with an ethos that is not compatible with a Health Service .
This twitter bot thing...you have to feel sorry, some poor sods who probably resemble the cast of the Big Bang Theory are in a few hours going to be standing in front of a swearing big boss man ripping them a new one.
Sam Coates There is unconfirmed talk of Jeremy Hunt to Commons Leader post referendum to help with Tory reunification - Tory source
Hmm. Hunt seems to have caused all the problems with Health that Gove did with Education without any of the success.
Also he's an EU welcher.
Hunt's got the contract through. It wasn't pretty how he did it, but he hasn't buckled like a Bojo certainly would in that position.
Has he though? I thought he was going to impose it but it was still yet to be imposed?
I'm not voting for Boris.
I would only vote for Boris if it was a choice between him and Osborne. Though I find it unlikely Osborne will make the final two, or even stand at this point.
Robert Shrimley This is literally the best story ever: Microsoft's AI twitter bot turned racist after 15 hours on twitter https://t.co/5RKIchXmUW
The tech company introduced "Tay" this week — a bot that responds to users' queries and emulates the casual, jokey speech patterns of a stereotypical millennial.
The aim was to "experiment with and conduct research on conversational understanding," with Tay able to learn from "her" conversations and get progressively "smarter."
But Tay proved a smash hit with racists, trolls, and online troublemakers — who persuaded Tay to blithely use racial slurs, defend white supremacist propaganda, and even outright call for genocide.
The best bit
In one highly publicised tweet, which has since been deleted, Tay said: "bush did 9/11 and Hitler would have done a better job than the monkey we have now. donald trump is the only hope we've got." In another, responding to a question, she said "ricky gervais learned totalitarianism from adolf hitler, the inventor of atheism."
From an engineering point of view, if the goal was to pass a Twitter Turing-test and pass for human, it sounds like it succeeded admirably.
I think its cool "i do indeed" in response to "Do you support genocide?" is the highlight.
I think it's quite sad that they've shut it down. "Wrong kind of sentience" I guess.
I hear the Met Police are currently conducting an investigation and would like to speak with a certain Mr Tay from Seattle as part of this...
Would certainty be a morale booster for the yellow peril.
Looks like an unwinding of the LD to Tory switchers who helped win the election for the Tories at GE.
Tories need to be careful and stay in the centre ground.
Cameron and Osborne seemed to want to, but will they be allowed to, or will they even be around to do so?
Being associated with cuts for the disabled is not sticking to the central ground. That was the choice of Osborne no one pushed him there. He created his rules, his targets and his choice of what to cut or tax. He drove the party off the main road.
I was referring to their initial acts after the election, which were widely interpreted as attempting to continue occupation of the centre ground.
I would also say that a single choice which is not centrish does not undermine an overall centrish message. And in any case the perception of being in the centre is what is aimed for, not the reality. That perception may well have been hit, but does not mean they have intentionally tried to alter that perception and thus their pitch. More likely they though no one would cause too much fuss, as people complain about cuts being ideological and right win every year.
Sam Coates There is unconfirmed talk of Jeremy Hunt to Commons Leader post referendum to help with Tory reunification - Tory source
Hmm. Hunt seems to have caused all the problems with Health that Gove did with Education without any of the success.
Also he's an EU welcher.
Hunt's got the contract through. It wasn't pretty how he did it, but he hasn't buckled like a Bojo certainly would in that position.
We haven’t seen how many are going to sign up in June/July though. Empty junior posts in August because those who “should” have filled them have gone elsewhere will bring problems.
Just as well not to let those who don't have the right outlook for the job get in the way of those that do. I assume they would be the more mercenary, who would leave for greener pastures anyway.
Why would we want them without an ethos that is compatible with a Health Service.
Well you want Hunt in charge of the NHS , a man with an ethos that is not compatible with a Health Service .
If you think the Health Service can continue without major changes to improve working practices, efficiency and outcomes, that is fine.
I actually don't give a monkeys about the NHS. I would like a quality service(s) free at the point of delivery. I don't happen to think the NHS is in any fit state to deliver that goal or provide value for money.
Sam Coates There is unconfirmed talk of Jeremy Hunt to Commons Leader post referendum to help with Tory reunification - Tory source
Hmm. Hunt seems to have caused all the problems with Health that Gove did with Education without any of the success.
Also he's an EU welcher.
Hunt's got the contract through. It wasn't pretty how he did it, but he hasn't buckled like a Bojo certainly would in that position.
We haven’t seen how many are going to sign up in June/July though. Empty junior posts in August because those who “should” have filled them have gone elsewhere will bring problems.
Just as well not to let those who don't have the right outlook for the job get in the way of those that do. I assume they would be the more mercenary, who would leave for greener pastures anyway.
Why would we want them without an ethos that is compatible with a Health Service.
Well you want Hunt in charge of the NHS , a man with an ethos that is not compatible with a Health Service .
I actually don't give a monkeys about the NHS./blockquote>
Unfortunately , all too typical of the Conservative attitude to the NHS and the majority of the public know it which is why their support for the junior doctors has increased since the dispute started .
'Is she just deliberately lying or too stupid to understand?'
Dissembling. Technically, Parliament could regain full sovereignty just by repealing the 1973 act. But while that act is in force, it has transferred its sovereignty overseas and is a subordinate body.
Sam Coates There is unconfirmed talk of Jeremy Hunt to Commons Leader post referendum to help with Tory reunification - Tory source
Hmm. Hunt seems to have caused all the problems with Health that Gove did with Education without any of the success.
Also he's an EU welcher.
Hunt's got the contract through. It wasn't pretty how he did it, but he hasn't buckled like a Bojo certainly would in that position.
We haven’t seen how many are going to sign up in June/July though. Empty junior posts in August because those who “should” have filled them have gone elsewhere will bring problems.
Just as well not to let those who don't have the right outlook for the job get in the way of those that do. I assume they would be the more mercenary, who would leave for greener pastures anyway.
Why would we want them without an ethos that is compatible with a Health Service.
Well you want Hunt in charge of the NHS , a man with an ethos that is not compatible with a Health Service .
I actually don't give a monkeys about the NHS.
** Inserted rest of paragraph to give the context back as the snip by Mark Senior was mendacious and misleading**
I actually don't give a monkeys about the NHS. I would like a quality service(s) free at the point of delivery. I don't happen to think the NHS is in any fit state to deliver that goal or provide value for money./blockquote>
Unfortunately , all too typical of the Conservative attitude to the NHS and the majority of the public know it which is why their support for the junior doctors has increased since the dispute started .
Nothing like taking something out of context, is there.
Would certainty be a morale booster for the yellow peril.
Looks like an unwinding of the LD to Tory switchers who helped win the election for the Tories at GE.
Tories need to be careful and stay in the centre ground.
Cameron and Osborne seemed to want to, but will they be allowed to, or will they even be around to do so?
Being associated with cuts for the disabled is not sticking to the central ground. That was the choice of Osborne no one pushed him there. He created his rules, his targets and his choice of what to cut or tax. He drove the party off the main road.
There are lots of different policy decisions Osborne has made that people can latch onto as a reason to dislike him.
But his real problem is that he will advocate and do absolutely anything to anyone that he feels is most politically expedient to that present moment in time, and not necessarily consult on it first.
It means no one trusts him, and his motives and objectives can't be relied upon, and one is generally only left with the sense that he's only out to win and would sell his own mother to further his career.
Works for a time. But eventually you get found out.
Well to be fair to Bernie he has said as much (though for different reasons) for about a year or so. Mercedes domination is just becoming boring. Part of the reason ratings are down is because I don't want to watch two Mercedes cars just go around the circuit and get an easy one/two barring any technical difficulties.
On BBC DP Lucy from REMAIN "our parliament is sovereign".....
Is she just deliberately lying or too stupid to understand?
Meanwhile the BBC idea of balance is to have 3 people on , 2 are for REMAIN and 1 Against. Impartial as ever.
I'm not watching but in what sense are those words a lie or stupid? Our Parliament (or, rather, the Queen in Parliament) is sovereign and could vote to leave the EU any time. At the last election voters could have given UKIP a majority to achieve just that.
Sam Coates There is unconfirmed talk of Jeremy Hunt to Commons Leader post referendum to help with Tory reunification - Tory source
Hmm. Hunt seems to have caused all the problems with Health that Gove did with Education without any of the success.
Also he's an EU welcher.
Hunt's got the contract through. It wasn't pretty how he did it, but he hasn't buckled like a Bojo certainly would in that position.
We haven’t seen how many are going to sign up in June/July though. Empty junior posts in August because those who “should” have filled them have gone elsewhere will bring problems.
Just as well not to let those who don't have the right outlook for the job get in the way of those that do. I assume they would be the more mercenary, who would leave for greener pastures anyway.
Why would we want them without an ethos that is compatible with a Health Service.
Well you want Hunt in charge of the NHS , a man with an ethos that is not compatible with a Health Service .
I want someone we elected in charge of the health service. Ultimately who it is is a matter for the PM.
‘Thank you so much for inviting me here this evening. As a vegetarian, I hope I’m still welcome. I’m always very keen when I get to a good kebab shop, to enjoy a good falafel. Hands up those kebab shops that don’t sell falafel… and, how many do?’ A number of kebab-sellers then confirmed that they did indeed sell falafel. Corbyn then moved on to another important matter — healthy eating in the community:
‘Kebab shops bring people together there a place of great discourse and discussion and particularly a place for young people to go to. And henceforth we will know Keith Vaz as the sugar man because of his great campaign to try and do something about the high intake of sugar in our society.
So what I’d like people to do when they take a kebab, is also take a salad with it as that helps to give them the balanced diet that everybody needs.’
‘Thank you so much for inviting me here this evening. As a vegetarian, I hope I’m still welcome. I’m always very keen when I get to a good kebab shop, to enjoy a good falafel. Hands up those kebab shops that don’t sell falafel… and, how many do?’ A number of kebab-sellers then confirmed that they did indeed sell falafel. Corbyn then moved on to another important matter — healthy eating in the community:
‘Kebab shops bring people together there a place of great discourse and discussion and particularly a place for young people to go to. And henceforth we will know Keith Vaz as the sugar man because of his great campaign to try and do something about the high intake of sugar in our society.
So what I’d like people to do when they take a kebab, is also take a salad with it as that helps to give them the balanced diet that everybody needs.’
Sam Coates There is unconfirmed talk of Jeremy Hunt to Commons Leader post referendum to help with Tory reunification - Tory source
Hmm. Hunt seems to have caused all the problems with Health that Gove did with Education without any of the success.
Also he's an EU welcher.
Hunt's got the contract through. It wasn't pretty how he did it, but he hasn't buckled like a Bojo certainly would in that position.
We haven’t seen how many are going to sign up in June/July though. Empty junior posts in August because those who “should” have filled them have gone elsewhere will bring problems.
Just as well not to let those who don't have the right outlook for the job get in the way of those that do. I assume they would be the more mercenary, who would leave for greener pastures anyway.
Why would we want them without an ethos that is compatible with a Health Service.
Well you want Hunt in charge of the NHS , a man with an ethos that is not compatible with a Health Service .
I actually don't give a monkeys about the NHS./blockquote>
Unfortunately , all too typical of the Conservative attitude to the NHS and the majority of the public know it which is why their support for the junior doctors has increased since the dispute started .
Unfortunately it is all too typical of the LibDem attitude to the truth to deliberately misrepresent their opponents.
What @philiph was saying was that the function is more important than the form: what matters is high quality, taxpayer funded, health care provision on a universal basis and in a cost effective manner. The precise legal mechanism doesn't matter nearly as much
I think I know the real reason Tay was pulled it wasn't all the racist stuff...it was asked PS4, Xbox One or Wii U...and it replied PS4, Xbox has no games.
Would certainty be a morale booster for the yellow peril.
Looks like an unwinding of the LD to Tory switchers who helped win the election for the Tories at GE.
Tories need to be careful and stay in the centre ground.
Cameron and Osborne seemed to want to, but will they be allowed to, or will they even be around to do so?
Being associated with cuts for the disabled is not sticking to the central ground. That was the choice of Osborne no one pushed him there. He created his rules, his targets and his choice of what to cut or tax. He drove the party off the main road.
There are lots of different policy decisions Osborne has made that people can latch onto as a reason to dislike him.
But his real problem is that he will advocate and do absolutely anything to anyone that he feels is most politically expedient to that present moment in time, and not necessarily consult on it first.
It means no one trusts him, and his motives and objectives can't be relied upon, and one is generally only left with the sense that he's only out to win and would sell his own mother to further his career.
Works for a time. But eventually you get found out.
‘Thank you so much for inviting me here this evening. As a vegetarian, I hope I’m still welcome. I’m always very keen when I get to a good kebab shop, to enjoy a good falafel. Hands up those kebab shops that don’t sell falafel… and, how many do?’ A number of kebab-sellers then confirmed that they did indeed sell falafel. Corbyn then moved on to another important matter — healthy eating in the community:
‘Kebab shops bring people together there a place of great discourse and discussion and particularly a place for young people to go to. And henceforth we will know Keith Vaz as the sugar man because of his great campaign to try and do something about the high intake of sugar in our society.
So what I’d like people to do when they take a kebab, is also take a salad with it as that helps to give them the balanced diet that everybody needs.’
That's literally a WTF moment. It's like Labour don't want to be taken seriously. We've got a government wobbling over Europe, having to take huge u-turns in their budget, a £4.3bn blackhole that both the IFS and the government's own watchdog say needs to be filled and the leadership are talking to kebab shop owners about falafels.
‘Thank you so much for inviting me here this evening. As a vegetarian, I hope I’m still welcome. I’m always very keen when I get to a good kebab shop, to enjoy a good falafel. Hands up those kebab shops that don’t sell falafel… and, how many do?’ A number of kebab-sellers then confirmed that they did indeed sell falafel. Corbyn then moved on to another important matter — healthy eating in the community:
‘Kebab shops bring people together there a place of great discourse and discussion and particularly a place for young people to go to. And henceforth we will know Keith Vaz as the sugar man because of his great campaign to try and do something about the high intake of sugar in our society.
So what I’d like people to do when they take a kebab, is also take a salad with it as that helps to give them the balanced diet that everybody needs.’
‘Thank you so much for inviting me here this evening. As a vegetarian, I hope I’m still welcome. I’m always very keen when I get to a good kebab shop, to enjoy a good falafel. Hands up those kebab shops that don’t sell falafel… and, how many do?’ A number of kebab-sellers then confirmed that they did indeed sell falafel. Corbyn then moved on to another important matter — healthy eating in the community:
‘Kebab shops bring people together there a place of great discourse and discussion and particularly a place for young people to go to. And henceforth we will know Keith Vaz as the sugar man because of his great campaign to try and do something about the high intake of sugar in our society.
So what I’d like people to do when they take a kebab, is also take a salad with it as that helps to give them the balanced diet that everybody needs.’
That's literally a WTF moment. It's like Labour don't want to be taken seriously. We've got a government wobbling over Europe, having to take huge u-turns in their budget, a £4.3bn blackhole that both the IFS and the government's own watchdog say needs to be filled and the leadership are talking to kebab shop owners about falafels.
Just imagine how bonkers he will be in power...sexist train carriages are the last thing we would have to worry about.
Prime Minister, ISIS have just stuck again. We think there are over 30 people dead....Sure sure...but how is the drafting of the "all kebabs must be served with salad policy" coming along?
‘Thank you so much for inviting me here this evening. As a vegetarian, I hope I’m still welcome. I’m always very keen when I get to a good kebab shop, to enjoy a good falafel. Hands up those kebab shops that don’t sell falafel… and, how many do?’ A number of kebab-sellers then confirmed that they did indeed sell falafel. Corbyn then moved on to another important matter — healthy eating in the community:
‘Kebab shops bring people together there a place of great discourse and discussion and particularly a place for young people to go to. And henceforth we will know Keith Vaz as the sugar man because of his great campaign to try and do something about the high intake of sugar in our society.
So what I’d like people to do when they take a kebab, is also take a salad with it as that helps to give them the balanced diet that everybody needs.’
Sam Coates There is unconfirmed talk of Jeremy Hunt to Commons Leader post referendum to help with Tory reunification - Tory source
Hmm. Hunt seems to have caused all the problems with Health that Gove did with Education without any of the success.
Also he's an EU welcher.
Hunt's got the contract through. It wasn't pretty how he did it, but he hasn't buckled like a Bojo certainly would in that position.
We haven’t seen how many are going to sign up in June/July though. Empty junior posts in August because those who “should” have filled them have gone elsewhere will bring problems.
Just as well not to let those who don't have the right outlook for the job get in the way of those that do. I assume they would be the more mercenary, who would leave for greener pastures anyway.
Why would we want them without an ethos that is compatible with a Health Service.
Well you want Hunt in charge of the NHS , a man with an ethos that is not compatible with a Health Service .
I actually don't give a monkeys about the NHS./blockquote>
Unfortunately , all too typical of the Conservative attitude to the NHS and the majority of the public know it which is why their support for the junior doctors has increased since the dispute started .
Unfortunately it is all too typical of the LibDem attitude to the truth to deliberately misrepresent their opponents.
What @philiph was saying was that the function is more important than the form: what matters is high quality, taxpayer funded, health care provision on a universal basis and in a cost effective manner. The precise legal mechanism doesn't matter nearly as much
I must have learnt my lesson from you Leavers on here .
‘Thank you so much for inviting me here this evening. As a vegetarian, I hope I’m still welcome. I’m always very keen when I get to a good kebab shop, to enjoy a good falafel. Hands up those kebab shops that don’t sell falafel… and, how many do?’ A number of kebab-sellers then confirmed that they did indeed sell falafel. Corbyn then moved on to another important matter — healthy eating in the community:
‘Kebab shops bring people together there a place of great discourse and discussion and particularly a place for young people to go to. And henceforth we will know Keith Vaz as the sugar man because of his great campaign to try and do something about the high intake of sugar in our society.
So what I’d like people to do when they take a kebab, is also take a salad with it as that helps to give them the balanced diet that everybody needs.’
‘Thank you so much for inviting me here this evening. As a vegetarian, I hope I’m still welcome. I’m always very keen when I get to a good kebab shop, to enjoy a good falafel. Hands up those kebab shops that don’t sell falafel… and, how many do?’ A number of kebab-sellers then confirmed that they did indeed sell falafel. Corbyn then moved on to another important matter — healthy eating in the community:
‘Kebab shops bring people together there a place of great discourse and discussion and particularly a place for young people to go to. And henceforth we will know Keith Vaz as the sugar man because of his great campaign to try and do something about the high intake of sugar in our society.
So what I’d like people to do when they take a kebab, is also take a salad with it as that helps to give them the balanced diet that everybody needs.’
On BBC DP Lucy from REMAIN "our parliament is sovereign".....
Is she just deliberately lying or too stupid to understand?
Meanwhile the BBC idea of balance is to have 3 people on , 2 are for REMAIN and 1 Against. Impartial as ever.
I'm not watching but in what sense are those words a lie or stupid? Our Parliament (or, rather, the Queen in Parliament) is sovereign and could vote to leave the EU any time. At the last election voters could have given UKIP a majority to achieve just that.
Are you seriously saying that our Parliament can pass any law it wants without regard to the rules and laws of the EU? Stunned.
‘Thank you so much for inviting me here this evening. As a vegetarian, I hope I’m still welcome. I’m always very keen when I get to a good kebab shop, to enjoy a good falafel. Hands up those kebab shops that don’t sell falafel… and, how many do?’ A number of kebab-sellers then confirmed that they did indeed sell falafel. Corbyn then moved on to another important matter — healthy eating in the community:
‘Kebab shops bring people together there a place of great discourse and discussion and particularly a place for young people to go to. And henceforth we will know Keith Vaz as the sugar man because of his great campaign to try and do something about the high intake of sugar in our society.
So what I’d like people to do when they take a kebab, is also take a salad with it as that helps to give them the balanced diet that everybody needs.’
On BBC DP Lucy from REMAIN "our parliament is sovereign".....
Is she just deliberately lying or too stupid to understand?
Meanwhile the BBC idea of balance is to have 3 people on , 2 are for REMAIN and 1 Against. Impartial as ever.
I'm not watching but in what sense are those words a lie or stupid? Our Parliament (or, rather, the Queen in Parliament) is sovereign and could vote to leave the EU any time. At the last election voters could have given UKIP a majority to achieve just that.
Are you seriously saying that our Parliament can pass any law it wants without regard to the rules and laws of the EU? Stunned.
It can vote to leave the EU. Any time it likes. You are aware of that aren't you?
‘Thank you so much for inviting me here this evening. As a vegetarian, I hope I’m still welcome. I’m always very keen when I get to a good kebab shop, to enjoy a good falafel. Hands up those kebab shops that don’t sell falafel… and, how many do?’ A number of kebab-sellers then confirmed that they did indeed sell falafel. Corbyn then moved on to another important matter — healthy eating in the community:
‘Kebab shops bring people together there a place of great discourse and discussion and particularly a place for young people to go to. And henceforth we will know Keith Vaz as the sugar man because of his great campaign to try and do something about the high intake of sugar in our society.
So what I’d like people to do when they take a kebab, is also take a salad with it as that helps to give them the balanced diet that everybody needs.’
Sam Coates There is unconfirmed talk of Jeremy Hunt to Commons Leader post referendum to help with Tory reunification - Tory source
Hmm. Hunt seems to have caused all the problems with Health that Gove did with Education without any of the success.
Also he's an EU welcher.
Hunt's got the contract through. It wasn't pretty how he did it, but he hasn't buckled like a Bojo certainly would in that position.
We haven’t seen how many are going to sign up in June/July though. Empty junior posts in August because those who “should” have filled them have gone elsewhere will bring problems.
Just as well not to let those who don't have the right outlook for the job get in the way of those that do. I assume they would be the more mercenary, who would leave for greener pastures anyway.
Why would we want them without an ethos that is not compatible with a Health Service.
Yours is the attitude that reagrds all nurses as angels, who do their jobs for love.
I'm usually a little cautious about pre Labor day general election matchups because one or both of the contenders isn't fully known to the voters. That certainly can't be said of Trump or Clinton. Both the national and swing state polls are dreadful for The Donald.
I'd certainly be getting new advice if I were LondonBobski ....
On BBC DP Lucy from REMAIN "our parliament is sovereign".....
Is she just deliberately lying or too stupid to understand?
Meanwhile the BBC idea of balance is to have 3 people on , 2 are for REMAIN and 1 Against. Impartial as ever.
I'm not watching but in what sense are those words a lie or stupid? Our Parliament (or, rather, the Queen in Parliament) is sovereign and could vote to leave the EU any time. At the last election voters could have given UKIP a majority to achieve just that.
Are you seriously saying that our Parliament can pass any law it wants without regard to the rules and laws of the EU? Stunned.
It can vote to leave the EU. Any time it likes. You are aware of that aren't you?
Yes. But Parliament cannot decide the UK laws on thousands of issues unless it also votes to leave the EU. So you are right, we have to leave the EU first to get full sovereignty.
On BBC DP Lucy from REMAIN "our parliament is sovereign".....
Is she just deliberately lying or too stupid to understand?
Meanwhile the BBC idea of balance is to have 3 people on , 2 are for REMAIN and 1 Against. Impartial as ever.
I'm not watching but in what sense are those words a lie or stupid? Our Parliament (or, rather, the Queen in Parliament) is sovereign and could vote to leave the EU any time. At the last election voters could have given UKIP a majority to achieve just that.
Are you seriously saying that our Parliament can pass any law it wants without regard to the rules and laws of the EU? Stunned.
It can vote to leave the EU. Any time it likes. You are aware of that aren't you?
On BBC DP Lucy from REMAIN "our parliament is sovereign".....
Is she just deliberately lying or too stupid to understand?
Meanwhile the BBC idea of balance is to have 3 people on , 2 are for REMAIN and 1 Against. Impartial as ever.
I'm not watching but in what sense are those words a lie or stupid? Our Parliament (or, rather, the Queen in Parliament) is sovereign and could vote to leave the EU any time. At the last election voters could have given UKIP a majority to achieve just that.
Are you seriously saying that our Parliament can pass any law it wants without regard to the rules and laws of the EU? Stunned.
It can vote to leave the EU. Any time it likes. You are aware of that aren't you?
‘Thank you so much for inviting me here this evening. As a vegetarian, I hope I’m still welcome. I’m always very keen when I get to a good kebab shop, to enjoy a good falafel. Hands up those kebab shops that don’t sell falafel… and, how many do?’ A number of kebab-sellers then confirmed that they did indeed sell falafel. Corbyn then moved on to another important matter — healthy eating in the community:
‘Kebab shops bring people together there a place of great discourse and discussion and particularly a place for young people to go to. And henceforth we will know Keith Vaz as the sugar man because of his great campaign to try and do something about the high intake of sugar in our society.
So what I’d like people to do when they take a kebab, is also take a salad with it as that helps to give them the balanced diet that everybody needs.’
Sam Coates There is unconfirmed talk of Jeremy Hunt to Commons Leader post referendum to help with Tory reunification - Tory source
Hmm. Hunt seems to have caused all the problems with Health that Gove did with Education without any of the success.
Also he's an EU welcher.
Hunt's got the contract through. It wasn't pretty how he did it, but he hasn't buckled like a Bojo certainly would in that position.
We haven’t seen how many are going to sign up in June/July though. Empty junior posts in August because those who “should” have filled them have gone elsewhere will bring problems.
Just as well not to let those who don't have the right outlook for the job get in the way of those that do. I assume they would be the more mercenary, who would leave for greener pastures anyway.
Why would we want them without an ethos that is compatible with a Health Service.
Well you want Hunt in charge of the NHS , a man with an ethos that is not compatible with a Health Service .
I actually don't give a monkeys about the NHS./blockquote>
Unfortunately , all too typical of the Conservative attitude to the NHS and the majority of the public know it which is why their support for the junior doctors has increased since the dispute started .
Unfortunately it is all too typical of the LibDem attitude to the truth to deliberately misrepresent their opponents.
What @philiph was saying was that the function is more important than the form: what matters is high quality, taxpayer funded, health care provision on a universal basis and in a cost effective manner. The precise legal mechanism doesn't matter nearly as much
I must have learnt my lesson from you Leavers on here .
Interesting.
Your response to being called out is to smear your opponents.
I'm usually a little cautious about pre Labor day general election matchups because one or both of the contenders isn't fully known to the voters. That certainly can't be said of Trump or Clinton. Both the national and swing state polls are dreadful for The Donald.
I'd certainly be getting new advice if I were LondonBobski ....
But that magical pivot to centre hasn't happened yet. Trump is a genius with his pivoting and centering. He has all the centerism position he has the best centre position. His centre position is not small.
People saying Trump is going to be President are currently operating a faith based position way in excess of those who thought NotTrump was going to win the nomination.
Sam Coates There is unconfirmed talk of Jeremy Hunt to Commons Leader post referendum to help with Tory reunification - Tory source
Hmm. Hunt seems to have caused all the problems with Health that Gove did with Education without any of the success.
Also he's an EU welcher.
Hunt's got the contract through. It wasn't pretty how he did it, but he hasn't buckled like a Bojo certainly would in that position.
We haven’t seen how many are going to sign up in June/July though. Empty junior posts in August because those who “should” have filled them have gone elsewhere will bring problems.
Just as well not to let those who don't have the right outlook for the job get in the way of those that do. I assume they would be the more mercenary, who would leave for greener pastures anyway.
Why would we want them without an ethos that is not compatible with a Health Service.
Yours is the attitude that reagrds all nurses as angels, who do their jobs for love.
One nurse I've "met" over the past few months would give Genghis Khan a run for his money. Her (death)bed manner chilled the bones. Certainly no bed blockers there .... and that was private !! .. .. It amused Mrs JackW no end.
Sam Coates There is unconfirmed talk of Jeremy Hunt to Commons Leader post referendum to help with Tory reunification - Tory source
Hmm. Hunt seems to have caused all the problems with Health that Gove did with Education without any of the success.
Also he's an EU welcher.
Hunt's got the contract through. It wasn't pretty how he did it, but he hasn't buckled like a Bojo certainly would in that position.
We haven’t seen how many are going to sign up in June/July though. Empty junior posts in August because those who “should” have filled them have gone elsewhere will bring problems.
Just as well not to let those who don't have the right outlook for the job get in the way of those that do. I assume they would be the more mercenary, who would leave for greener pastures anyway.
Why would we want them without an ethos that is compatible with a Health Service.
Well you want Hunt in charge of the NHS , a man with an ethos that is not compatible with a Health Service .
If you think the Health Service can continue without major changes to improve working practices, efficiency and outcomes, that is fine.
I actually don't give a monkeys about the NHS. I would like a quality service(s) free at the point of delivery. I don't happen to think the NHS is in any fit state to deliver that goal or provide value for money.
I admire your honesty. I guess you support the Tories? I wish the Tories would remove the facade of the NHS being important to them - it obviously ain't. Like you, the Tories don't really give a monkeys about the NHS but haven't got the guts to say it out...
‘Thank you so much for inviting me here this evening. As a vegetarian, I hope I’m still welcome. I’m always very keen when I get to a good kebab shop, to enjoy a good falafel. Hands up those kebab shops that don’t sell falafel… and, how many do?’ A number of kebab-sellers then confirmed that they did indeed sell falafel. Corbyn then moved on to another important matter — healthy eating in the community:
‘Kebab shops bring people together there a place of great discourse and discussion and particularly a place for young people to go to. And henceforth we will know Keith Vaz as the sugar man because of his great campaign to try and do something about the high intake of sugar in our society.
So what I’d like people to do when they take a kebab, is also take a salad with it as that helps to give them the balanced diet that everybody needs.’
That's literally a WTF moment. It's like Labour don't want to be taken seriously. We've got a government wobbling over Europe, having to take huge u-turns in their budget, a £4.3bn blackhole that both the IFS and the government's own watchdog say needs to be filled and the leadership are talking to kebab shop owners about falafels.
Also it's bollocks - there's very little of nutritional value in the heap of tasteless iceberg lettuce you get in a kebab.
‘Thank you so much for inviting me here this evening. As a vegetarian, I hope I’m still welcome. I’m always very keen when I get to a good kebab shop, to enjoy a good falafel. Hands up those kebab shops that don’t sell falafel… and, how many do?’ A number of kebab-sellers then confirmed that they did indeed sell falafel. Corbyn then moved on to another important matter — healthy eating in the community:
‘Kebab shops bring people together there a place of great discourse and discussion and particularly a place for young people to go to. And henceforth we will know Keith Vaz as the sugar man because of his great campaign to try and do something about the high intake of sugar in our society.
So what I’d like people to do when they take a kebab, is also take a salad with it as that helps to give them the balanced diet that everybody needs.’
That's literally a WTF moment. It's like Labour don't want to be taken seriously. We've got a government wobbling over Europe, having to take huge u-turns in their budget, a £4.3bn blackhole that both the IFS and the government's own watchdog say needs to be filled and the leadership are talking to kebab shop owners about falafels.
Also it's bollocks - there's very little of nutritional value in the heap of tasteless iceberg lettuce you get in a kebab.
‘Thank you so much for inviting me here this evening. As a vegetarian, I hope I’m still welcome. I’m always very keen when I get to a good kebab shop, to enjoy a good falafel. Hands up those kebab shops that don’t sell falafel… and, how many do?’ A number of kebab-sellers then confirmed that they did indeed sell falafel. Corbyn then moved on to another important matter — healthy eating in the community:
‘Kebab shops bring people together there a place of great discourse and discussion and particularly a place for young people to go to. And henceforth we will know Keith Vaz as the sugar man because of his great campaign to try and do something about the high intake of sugar in our society.
So what I’d like people to do when they take a kebab, is also take a salad with it as that helps to give them the balanced diet that everybody needs.’
I'm usually a little cautious about pre Labor day general election matchups because one or both of the contenders isn't fully known to the voters. That certainly can't be said of Trump or Clinton. Both the national and swing state polls are dreadful for The Donald.
I'd certainly be getting new advice if I were LondonBobski ....
But that magical pivot to centre hasn't happened yet. Trump is a genius with his pivoting and centering. He has all the centerism position he has the best centre position. His centre position is not small.
People saying Trump is going to be President are currently operating a faith based position way in excess of those who thought NotTrump was going to win the nomination.
Barring events of course.
Watching The Donald pivot to the centre will be a sight to transfix politicos, knowing full well any moment he will explode after as much as .... well perhaps .... let's be generous .... at least a few days trying ....
Very interesting analysis just out from Peter Kellner on the difference between outers and inners.
The inners are younger, urban, better educated, and richer than the outers who are older, provincial, dimmer and poorer.
But the big difference is:
"We listed ten possible causes of our economic problems and asked people to say which two or three they blame most. The top three picked by the “in” voters are completely different from the three picked by “out” voters:
For “in” voters, the top three are: British banks, the Conservative-led government since 2010 and growing inequality.
For “out” voters they are: EU rules and regulations, immigrants willing to work for low wages and the last Labour government. "
If it is narrow victory for Brexit, I don't think the younger, better educated ABC1s will take it lying down. Nor the Scots, Welsh and Irish. There will be all sorts of legal challenges, reinterpretations of what it means etc. Not quite civil war but brutal and effective.
However I still believe that REMAIN will win easily. I think REMAIN will be more professional and effective and have loads more money than the various BREXIT factions. So far I have received two excellently produced leaflets from REMAIN and none from BREXIT. I have also signed up to help the REMAIN campaign with leafletting, telephone canvassing and data entry. So bring it on.
Sam Coates There is unconfirmed talk of Jeremy Hunt to Commons Leader post referendum to help with Tory reunification - Tory source
Hmm. Hunt seems to have caused all the problems with Health that Gove did with Education without any of the success.
Also he's an EU welcher.
Hunt's got the contract through. It wasn't pretty how he did it, but he hasn't buckled like a Bojo certainly would in that position.
We haven’t seen how many are going to sign up in June/July though. Empty junior posts in August because those who “should” have filled them have gone elsewhere will bring problems.
Just as well not to let those who don't have the right outlook for the job get in the way of those that do. I assume they would be the more mercenary, who would leave for greener pastures anyway.
Why would we want them without an ethos that is compatible with a Health Service.
Well you want Hunt in charge of the NHS , a man with an ethos that is not compatible with a Health Service .
If you think the Health Service can continue without major changes to improve working practices, efficiency and outcomes, that is fine.
I actually don't give a monkeys about the NHS. I would like a quality service(s) free at the point of delivery. I don't happen to think the NHS is in any fit state to deliver that goal or provide value for money.
I admire your honesty. I guess you support the Tories? I wish the Tories would remove the facade of the NHS being important to them - it obviously ain't. Like you, the Tories don't really give a monkeys about the NHS but haven't got the guts to say it out...
Why do you give a monkeys about it? Surely it's a means to an end?
On BBC DP Lucy from REMAIN "our parliament is sovereign".....
Is she just deliberately lying or too stupid to understand?
Meanwhile the BBC idea of balance is to have 3 people on , 2 are for REMAIN and 1 Against. Impartial as ever.
I'm not watching but in what sense are those words a lie or stupid? Our Parliament (or, rather, the Queen in Parliament) is sovereign and could vote to leave the EU any time. At the last election voters could have given UKIP a majority to achieve just that.
Are you seriously saying that our Parliament can pass any law it wants without regard to the rules and laws of the EU? Stunned.
It can vote to leave the EU. Any time it likes. You are aware of that aren't you?
Yes. But Parliament cannot decide the UK laws on thousands of issues unless it also votes to leave the EU. So you are right, we have to leave the EU first to get full sovereignty.
And Parliament doesn't need anyone else's permission to do exactly that (though it has decided to ask the opinion of the British electorate).
What I would call a non-sovereign parliament is one like the Scottish one which cannot (legally) declare itself separate from the UK. If our Parliament needed the rest of the EU's permission to repeal the 1973 Act then it would not be sovereign (and this wouldn't be a sovereign state). But it doesn't.
Very interesting analysis just out from Peter Kellner on the difference between outers and inners.
The inners are younger, urban, better educated, and richer than the outers who are older, provincial, dimmer and poorer.
But the big difference is:
"We listed ten possible causes of our economic problems and asked people to say which two or three they blame most. The top three picked by the “in” voters are completely different from the three picked by “out” voters:
For “in” voters, the top three are: British banks, the Conservative-led government since 2010 and growing inequality.
For “out” voters they are: EU rules and regulations, immigrants willing to work for low wages and the last Labour government. "
If it is narrow victory for Brexit, I don't think the younger, better educated ABC1s will take it lying down. Nor the Scots, Welsh and Irish. There will be all sorts of legal challenges, reinterpretations of what it means etc. Not quite civil war but brutal and effective.
However I still believe that REMAIN will win easily. I think REMAIN will be more professional and effective and have loads more money than the various BREXIT factions. So far I have received two excellently produced leaflets from REMAIN and none from BREXIT. I have also signed up to help the REMAIN campaign with leafletting, telephone canvassing and data entry. So bring it on.
Very interesting analysis just out from Peter Kellner on the difference between outers and inners.
The inners are younger, urban, better educated, and richer than the outers who are older, provincial, dimmer and poorer.
But the big difference is:
"We listed ten possible causes of our economic problems and asked people to say which two or three they blame most. The top three picked by the “in” voters are completely different from the three picked by “out” voters:
For “in” voters, the top three are: British banks, the Conservative-led government since 2010 and growing inequality.
For “out” voters they are: EU rules and regulations, immigrants willing to work for low wages and the last Labour government. "
If it is narrow victory for Brexit, I don't think the younger, better educated ABC1s will take it lying down. Nor the Scots, Welsh and Irish. There will be all sorts of legal challenges, reinterpretations of what it means etc. Not quite civil war but brutal and effective.
However I still believe that REMAIN will win easily. I think REMAIN will be more professional and effective and have loads more money than the various BREXIT factions. So far I have received two excellently produced leaflets from REMAIN and none from BREXIT. I have also signed up to help the REMAIN campaign with leafletting, telephone canvassing and data entry. So bring it on.
Sam Coates There is unconfirmed talk of Jeremy Hunt to Commons Leader post referendum to help with Tory reunification - Tory source
Hmm. Hunt seems to have caused all the problems with Health that Gove did with Education without any of the success.
Also he's an EU welcher.
Hunt's got the contract through. It wasn't pretty how he did it, but he hasn't buckled like a Bojo certainly would in that position.
We haven’t seen how many are going to sign up in June/July though. Empty junior posts in August because those who “should” have filled them have gone elsewhere will bring problems.
Just as well not to let those who don't have the right outlook for the job get in the way of those that do. I assume they would be the more mercenary, who would leave for greener pastures anyway.
Why would we want them without an ethos that is compatible with a Health Service.
Well you want Hunt in charge of the NHS , a man with an ethos that is not compatible with a Health Service .
If you think the Health Service can continue without major changes to improve working practices, efficiency and outcomes, that is fine.
I actually don't give a monkeys about the NHS. I would like a quality service(s) free at the point of delivery. I don't happen to think the NHS is in any fit state to deliver that goal or provide value for money.
I admire your honesty. I guess you support the Tories? I wish the Tories would remove the facade of the NHS being important to them - it obviously ain't. Like you, the Tories don't really give a monkeys about the NHS but haven't got the guts to say it out...
I don't care about an organisation set up for the needs of 60 years ago. If you read my comment I do care about delivery of health care, not who deliver it.
Very interesting analysis just out from Peter Kellner on the difference between outers and inners.
The inners are younger, urban, better educated, and richer than the outers who are older, provincial, dimmer and poorer.
But the big difference is:
"We listed ten possible causes of our economic problems and asked people to say which two or three they blame most. The top three picked by the “in” voters are completely different from the three picked by “out” voters:
For “in” voters, the top three are: British banks, the Conservative-led government since 2010 and growing inequality.
For “out” voters they are: EU rules and regulations, immigrants willing to work for low wages and the last Labour government. "
If it is narrow victory for Brexit, I don't think the younger, better educated ABC1s will take it lying down. Nor the Scots, Welsh and Irish. There will be all sorts of legal challenges, reinterpretations of what it means etc. Not quite civil war but brutal and effective.
However I still believe that REMAIN will win easily. I think REMAIN will be more professional and effective and have loads more money than the various BREXIT factions. So far I have received two excellently produced leaflets from REMAIN and none from BREXIT. I have also signed up to help the REMAIN campaign with leafletting, telephone canvassing and data entry. So bring it on.
He's objective then.
For plenty of urbane Leftists the EU is just as important a totem for them as it for Leavers who are desperate to leave it.
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Arguably, especially considering what followed, he was an asset in 2010.
I think its cool "i do indeed" in response to "Do you support genocide?" is the highlight.
[Or less bad, as you like].
Before weighting Leave 337 voters Remain 560 voters
After weighting Leave 357 voters Remain 528 voters
Substantial Remain lead
I think its cool "i do indeed" in response to "Do you support genocide?" is the highlight.
The Twitter Turning-Test is that where the bar is set incredibly low, where you only need to be convinced the person at the other end is a total and utter moron and who can only speak in 140 character bursts?
Yes, that is of course exactly why Islamists are pushing for it. They want to create states within states, and then...
Why would we want them without an ethos that is not compatible with a Health Service.
I think its cool "i do indeed" in response to "Do you support genocide?" is the highlight.
The Twitter Turning-Test is that where the bar is set incredibly low, where you only need to be convinced the person at the other end is a total any utter moron and who can only speak in 140 character bursts?
I think its cool "i do indeed" in response to "Do you support genocide?" is the highlight.
I think it's quite sad that they've shut it down. "Wrong kind of sentience" I guess.
I think its cool "i do indeed" in response to "Do you support genocide?" is the highlight.
I think it's quite sad that they've shut it down. "Wrong kind of sentience" I guess.
I hear the Met Police are currently conducting an investigation and would like to speak with a certain Mr Tay from Seattle as part of this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYtzf7YD8oY
I would also say that a single choice which is not centrish does not undermine an overall centrish message. And in any case the perception of being in the centre is what is aimed for, not the reality. That perception may well have been hit, but does not mean they have intentionally tried to alter that perception and thus their pitch. More likely they though no one would cause too much fuss, as people complain about cuts being ideological and right win every year.
Is she just deliberately lying or too stupid to understand?
Meanwhile the BBC idea of balance is to have 3 people on , 2 are for REMAIN and 1 Against. Impartial as ever.
I actually don't give a monkeys about the NHS. I would like a quality service(s) free at the point of delivery. I don't happen to think the NHS is in any fit state to deliver that goal or provide value for money.
Dissembling. Technically, Parliament could regain full sovereignty just by repealing the 1973 act. But while that act is in force, it has transferred its sovereignty overseas and is a subordinate body.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/35889156
He's full of it.
But his real problem is that he will advocate and do absolutely anything to anyone that he feels is most politically expedient to that present moment in time, and not necessarily consult on it first.
It means no one trusts him, and his motives and objectives can't be relied upon, and one is generally only left with the sense that he's only out to win and would sell his own mother to further his career.
Works for a time. But eventually you get found out.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/jeremy-corbyn-at-the-british-kebab-awards-hands-up-those-kebab-shops-that-dont-sell-falafel/
Clinton 48 .. Sanders 49
Pennsylvania - Franklin and Marshall
Trump 33 .. Kasich 30 .. Cruz 20
Clinton 53 .. Sanders 28
Clinton 46 .. Trump 33
Clinton 45 .. Cruz 35
I think I know the real reason Tay was pulled it wasn't all the racist stuff...it was asked PS4, Xbox One or Wii U...and it replied PS4, Xbox has no games.
Seriously, who'd eat one sober??! Good grief.
Just imagine how bonkers he will be in power...sexist train carriages are the last thing we would have to worry about.
Prime Minister, ISIS have just stuck again. We think there are over 30 people dead....Sure sure...but how is the drafting of the "all kebabs must be served with salad policy" coming along?
I love Lebanese food.
Yeah, but you don't go to a kebab shop to get it.
Jezza does...
Stunned.
He sends the butler to get it
I'd certainly be getting new advice if I were LondonBobski ....
Court News
Britain's biggest supplier of cutting agents for cocaine faces jail. He had so much of the stuff he had to blend it in a cement mixer
You can check out any time you like,
You can never leave.
Ipsos MORI/Evening Standard:
CON 36 (-3)
LAB 34 (+1)
LIB 10 (+4)
UKIP 11 (-1)
GRN 3 (=)
19th-22nd Mar
N=1,023
Tabs https://t.co/86aI33Rye6
Satisfaction with George Osborne as Chancellor:
Satisfied: 27%
Dissatisfied: 60%
(via Ipsos Mori)
People saying Trump is going to be President are currently operating a faith based position way in excess of those who thought NotTrump was going to win the nomination.
Barring events of course.
I think the EU is a social democratic project. The referendum voting intentions seem to back this up. https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/712986292737413121 …
Also it's bollocks - there's very little of nutritional value in the heap of tasteless iceberg lettuce you get in a kebab.
Perhaps a good metaphor for JJ policies...
The inners are younger, urban, better educated, and richer than the outers who are older, provincial, dimmer and poorer.
But the big difference is:
"We listed ten possible causes of our economic problems and asked people to say which two or three they blame most. The top three picked by the “in” voters are completely different from the three picked by “out” voters:
For “in” voters, the top three are: British banks, the Conservative-led government since 2010 and growing inequality.
For “out” voters they are: EU rules and regulations, immigrants willing to work for low wages and the last Labour government. "
If it is narrow victory for Brexit, I don't think the younger, better educated ABC1s will take it lying down. Nor the Scots, Welsh and Irish. There will be all sorts of legal challenges, reinterpretations of what it means etc. Not quite civil war but brutal and effective.
However I still believe that REMAIN will win easily. I think REMAIN will be more professional and effective and have loads more money than the various BREXIT factions. So far I have received two excellently produced leaflets from REMAIN and none from BREXIT. I have also signed up to help the REMAIN campaign with leafletting, telephone canvassing and data entry. So bring it on.
What I would call a non-sovereign parliament is one like the Scottish one which cannot (legally) declare itself separate from the UK. If our Parliament needed the rest of the EU's permission to repeal the 1973 Act then it would not be sovereign (and this wouldn't be a sovereign state). But it doesn't.
And the hilariously wrong results.
In polling analysis, Chestnut destroyed him, and everybody else.
For plenty of urbane Leftists the EU is just as important a totem for them as it for Leavers who are desperate to leave it.