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SystemSystem Posts: 11,694
edited February 2016 in General

imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Trump makes it three states in a row as he moves even closer to the nomination

The big news in the White House Race is that Trump had another emphatic victory in last night’s Nevada caucuses. This means he’s now made it three states in a row and is now a clear favourite to secure the nomination.

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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,783
    edited February 2016
    Double First!
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    That's a scary looking photo of Trump from CNN......how did the GOP get in this pickle.....
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Big kerching for me already.

    I think I'll let it ride.
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    Scandal
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,951
    POTUS:

    HRC 1.86/1.87
    Sanders 16.5/17.5

    GOP:

    Trump 1.525/Rubi Oh 3.4 making up 95% of the market.

    Rest any price you like.
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    DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215
    edited February 2016
    The multiple opponents theory is beginning to look like a myth, Nevada was basically a threeway with one establishment candidate, who couldn't even get a quarter of the vote.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,131

    That's a scary looking photo of Trump from CNN......how did the GOP get in this pickle.....

    Because everyone else has an even more scary photo? Or at least, an even more scary set of ideas that underpin their "personal philosophy".....
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Far better for Trump if Cruz stays in..
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    DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215
    TGOHF said:

    Far better for Trump if Cruz stays in..

    Don't think it makes much difference at this stage.
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    If shadsy is looking for new markets in the near term, he might try an over/under line for the next few months on questions at Prime Minister's questions that mention the referendum.
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    DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    edited February 2016
    From OP: The only way that Trump can be stopped is if there’s one anti-Trump candidate ideally Rubio.

    In no-one's ideal world is Rubio the candidate. Even in this world, I suspect a lot of the GOP Establishment will prefer Trump as figurehead while the grown-ups get on with running the country.

    Now, the point is not that Trump can be bought off; of course he can't, but remember a new President brings his whole retinue as Cabinet members, ambassadors, civil servants and so on. Cruz or Rubio would bring their teams from Texas or Florida. The beauty of Trump, from this perspective, is that he has no candidate in mind for Secretary of Housing or Ambassador to Berlin, so can easily be persuaded to rubber stamp the Establishment candidates.
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    edited February 2016
    Has Trump promised to close Guantanamo if elected - seems a good scam to get elected :lol:
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,951
    What does everyone think the correct 5-6 line would be for the EU referendum ?

    56% Remain or so ?
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    Has Trump promised to close Guantanamo if elected - seems a good scam to get elected :lol:

    He has promised to keep it open, and fill it up
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    WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    RodCrosby said:

    Big kerching for me already.

    I think I'll let it ride.

    Same. I find I'm warming to Trump after all ;)
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,951

    Has Trump promised to close Guantanamo if elected - seems a good scam to get elected :lol:

    No he's keeping it open, and sending even more ne'er do wells there.
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    Donald Trump looks great value at 1/2. Only a major scandal can stop him now, surely?

    Marco Rubio's price is one of the enduring mysteries of the age.
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Faisal Islam
    PMQs coming up: 3 declared outers down for questions off top of my head: mackinlay, tolhurst, Ghani https://t.co/qChuShnX2v
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    isamisam Posts: 40,957
    edited February 2016
    Casino_Royale said:
    Interesting. Jesse Norman has publicly declared neutrality:

    http://order-order.com/2016/02/24/is-jesse-a-burkean/
    Fair enough I'd say... If an MP (or voter) was any less than 53-54% certain either way I think they should not campaign or vote either way

    If you make something 53% you don't commit to going all in at Even money.

    I'm surprised there aren't more fence sitters (used as an insult, but actually a valid position), and think that the overwhelming proportion of 'don't knows' will break for 'stay at home'
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883
    PMQs started
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    Faisal Islam
    PMQs coming up: 3 declared outers down for questions off top of my head: mackinlay, tolhurst, Ghani https://t.co/qChuShnX2v

    Wonder who has been writing Jahadi Jez's questions this week?
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,050
    How did the Labour party end up with Corbyn. The Democrats have flirted with Sanders. Le Pen in France. Grillo in Italy. And in England we have the Brexiters too.

    I think the political rulebook is being ripped apart. The Internet, social media is probably playing it's role as well as inequality and stagnation in the West, and the shift in the balance of wealth between young and old. There is a thesis or two in all of this linking up the growth of anti politics of the West post 2010.

    The traditional parties just seem out of touch which they are.

    That's a scary looking photo of Trump from CNN......how did the GOP get in this pickle.....

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    isamisam Posts: 40,957
    edited February 2016
    Nick Boles being schooled by Gisela Stuart and Andrew Neil over the referendum, the workings of the EU and immigration
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    Faisal Islam
    PMQs coming up: 3 declared outers down for questions off top of my head: mackinlay, tolhurst, Ghani https://t.co/qChuShnX2v

    Wonder who has been writing Jahadi Jez's questions this week?
    A Mr Trump, writing from Nevada, says that strange things can happen in politics. In that case, is it possible that even I could get elected?
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Are you a Cockney?
    Map of Cockney territories in London as defined by being able to... https://t.co/vJmCLjSKNU https://t.co/qOGtlSvTyz
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    Trump? Suddenly the grid-lock of spilt powers that the founding fathers bequeathed to US looks reassuring.

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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,951
    edited February 2016

    Donald Trump looks great value at 1/2. Only a major scandal can stop him now, surely?

    Marco Rubio's price is one of the enduring mysteries of the age.

    Hopefully Rubio will drop out after Florida. And Ted Cruz stays in - either Trump goes to 1.03 or my wodge on Cruz becomes cashable.
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    David Cameron just dished Corbyn's death statistics
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,050
    TGOHF said:

    Far better for Trump if Cruz stays in..


    I don't think it matters one jot. The Trump juggernaut is unstoppable for the GOP nomination. My major concern is will it take on enough momentum to take him to POTUS?

    I'd be interested here. How many people genuinely think Trump will be the next POTUS because I am seriously starting to have my doubts
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    Donald Trump looks great value at 1/2. Only a major scandal can stop him now, surely?

    Marco Rubio's price is one of the enduring mysteries of the age.

    Its widely accepted someone was putting cash on Romney to manipulate the price for PR reasons in 2012. Prolly same folk doing it again with Rubio.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,383
    Good PMQs for Jezza.
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    Donald Trump looks great value at 1/2. Only a major scandal can stop him now, surely?

    Marco Rubio's price is one of the enduring mysteries of the age.

    Its widely accepted someone was putting cash on Romney to manipulate the price for PR reasons in 2012. Prolly same folk doing it again with Rubio.
    I thought Americans aren't allowed to bet on politics. Or have I got this wrong? In which case why manipulate the UK's betfair?
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    tyson said:

    TGOHF said:

    Far better for Trump if Cruz stays in..


    I don't think it matters one jot. The Trump juggernaut is unstoppable for the GOP nomination. My major concern is will it take on enough momentum to take him to POTUS?

    I'd be interested here. How many people genuinely think Trump will be the next POTUS because I am seriously starting to have my doubts
    No, he won't.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    TOPPING said:

    Good PMQs for Jezza.

    @IanDunt: Cameron doing well. Corbyn avoiding content of the argument, not thinking on his feet. Arguably doesn't know the research case well enough.

    @DPJHodges: Jeremy Corbyn now getting slaughtered on the NHS. You couldn't make it up.
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    Ouch from Dave. His most brutal kicking of Jez ever.
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    Donald Trump looks great value at 1/2. Only a major scandal can stop him now, surely?

    Marco Rubio's price is one of the enduring mysteries of the age.

    Its widely accepted someone was putting cash on Romney to manipulate the price for PR reasons in 2012. Prolly same folk doing it again with Rubio.
    I thought Americans aren't allowed to bet on politics. Or have I got this wrong? In which case why manipulate the UK's betfair?
    I don't think the donor class would have any problem moving money round internationally. Betfair is reported in American press sometimes.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @politicshome: OMG. PM just said: My mother would say "put on a proper suit, do up your tie and sing the national anthem". https://t.co/qLfXQb7gcy
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    Wow - what a zinger from David Cameron to Corbyn
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @AmberSkyNews: #PMQs now 'your mum'

    @MrHarryCole: Age old lesson here. Never bring anyone's mother into a row.
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    Faisal Islam
    PMQs coming up: 3 declared outers down for questions off top of my head: mackinlay, tolhurst, Ghani https://t.co/qChuShnX2v

    Wonder who has been writing Jahadi Jez's questions this week?
    A Mr Trump, writing from Nevada, says that strange things can happen in politics. In that case, is it possible that even I could get elected?
    'Donsld from New York...'

    Like the first cuckoo of spring you will all have to start watching out for Trump looking more Presidential. I wonder if it will harm his chances?
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited February 2016
    Nick requested the constituency electorate information by party:

    Overall: -1.33%
    Con seats: -1.14%
    Lab seats: -1.32%
    LD seats: -0.43%
    SNP seats: -3.28%
    PC: -1.53%

    Sheet 1 is all seats, sheets 2 to 6 are the individual parties:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-H4eqc43aDRvF9V_VOjTQRh-rPmNifYJom-yaJ79Rpg/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=1073574480
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,383
    Scott_P said:

    TOPPING said:

    Good PMQs for Jezza.

    @IanDunt: Cameron doing well. Corbyn avoiding content of the argument, not thinking on his feet. Arguably doesn't know the research case well enough.

    @DPJHodges: Jeremy Corbyn now getting slaughtered on the NHS. You couldn't make it up.
    Disagree - he is sticking to the NHS. And, with that cheap jibe from Dave, maintaining the high ground.

    But I am no political wonk so what do I know?
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    From OP: The only way that Trump can be stopped is if there’s one anti-Trump candidate ideally Rubio.

    In no-one's ideal world is Rubio the candidate. Even in this world, I suspect a lot of the GOP Establishment will prefer Trump as figurehead while the grown-ups get on with running the country.

    Now, the point is not that Trump can be bought off; of course he can't, but remember a new President brings his whole retinue as Cabinet members, ambassadors, civil servants and so on. Cruz or Rubio would bring their teams from Texas or Florida. The beauty of Trump, from this perspective, is that he has no candidate in mind for Secretary of Housing or Ambassador to Berlin, so can easily be persuaded to rubber stamp the Establishment candidates.

    Rubio is epitome of establishment candidate. He agrees with orthodoxy on everything, even to point of flipping twice on immigration reform as establishment strategy changed. Also, as Senator he don't have a team of executive officials from Florida.
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,050
    That's like saying Osama Bin Laden had fashionable footwear. Corbyn's fate is irreversibly set to end in doom, abject failure and recrimination. The die has been cast, the path is taken, and there is nothing he can now do to change it.
    TOPPING said:

    Good PMQs for Jezza.

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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610

    Ouch from Dave. His most brutal kicking of Jez ever.

    I think the press coverage of him selling out the nation to the EU is getting to him.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @JGForsyth: If Corbyn was trying to reunite the Tory party after some of most difficult days in its recent history, he couldn't be doing a better job

    @DAaronovitch: That from Cameron on what his mum would say about Corbyn was unfair, beside the point and completely devastating.
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    This is the 'Your Mum PMQs'
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,383
    tyson said:

    That's like saying Osama Bin Laden had fashionable footwear. Corbyn's fate is irreversibly set to end in doom, abject failure and recrimination. The die has been cast, the path is taken, and there is nothing he can now do to change it.

    TOPPING said:

    Good PMQs for Jezza.

    haha. Fair enough.

    But he has kept to the same subject, for all his questions, has asked pertinent questions, and picked holes in some of the NHS negotiations using accepted research. And now, he has forced Dave to address his points in his more measured tones.
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    Ouch from Dave. His most brutal kicking of Jez ever.

    Taking his Boris-related frustrations out on the weakest kid in school? Sounds bit Eton to me.
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    A shamelessly stolen “Trump Marches on Washington” version based on the “Napoleon Marches on Paris” piece that supposedly appeared in the French government’s official newspaper Le Moniteur in March 1815 when Napoleon Bonaparte escape from Elba and astonished Europe by retaking the throne via courage and charisma. Insulting names for Trump courtesy of Karl Rove, Charles Krauthammer, George Will, Jonah Goldberg, Steve Hayes, John Sununu, Rich Lowry, and Fred Barnes.

    April 2015: The Complete Idiot announces he’s seriously considering running for the Republican presidential nomination. On Fox News, George Will looked forward to watching him crash and burn.

    June 2015: The Al Sharpton of the Republican Party declared his candidacy in a rambling speech full of racist attacks on Mexican immigrants intended to rile up the teabaggers.

    June 2015: The Bloviating Ignoramus has taken a lead in the polls, but it’s still the silly season. Voters haven’t yet taken a look at the more plausible candidates.

    July 2015: The Bane of Humanity has insulted the war hero John McCain. He’s gotten away with his gaffes, insults and vulgarity so far, but this time he’s gone too far.

    August 2015: The Clown described our champion as “a low-energy person.” Rather than join Trump in the gutter, Jeb understands voters will quickly tire of Trump’s childish banter.

    August 2015: The Dancing Bear draws a crowd of 30,000 in Alabama.

    September 2015: The Most Fabulous Whiner in All of American Politics continues to hold his lead in the polls. Fox New analysts are confident that Republican voters will soon get serious.

    February 2016: The One-Man Wedge Issue said that George W. Bush lied to get us into Iraq. He’s done it now. Veterans, who revere the former president, are a major bloc in South Carolina.

    February 2016: Trump wins New Hampshire and South Carolina, but if all candidates but Rubio drop out and he gets their votes, Trump can be stopped.

    November 2016: Donald J. Trump has won the election. National Review publishes a special issues congratulating President Trump, featuring highlights of brilliant campaign. Fox All Stars offer him their counsel and assistance in instituting a true conservative agenda.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,383
    I see I am on the wrong side of history with this!!
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    MaxPB said:

    Ouch from Dave. His most brutal kicking of Jez ever.

    I think the press coverage of him selling out the nation to the EU is getting to him.
    Nonsense. His kicking off Boris saw Dave and Remain get a boost.
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    Ouch from Dave. His most brutal kicking of Jez ever.

    Taking his Boris-related frustrations out on the weakest kid in school? Sounds bit Eton to me.
    But very effective
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @JoeMurphyLondon: Mr Punch just floored Judy. Labour MPs look very glum, but they're not exactly rushing to pick Judy up.

    @theobertram: Corbyn righteous on the NHS but scoring no hits. Voice oddly strained. Win for Cameron's mum.
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    James Forsyth: If Corbyn was trying to reunite the Tory party after some of most difficult days in its recent history, he couldn't be doing a better job
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    isamisam Posts: 40,957
    What a wanker Cameron is.

    I've met a few PBers who are applauding his comments and am amazed they would side with someone who would attack on the grounds of looks and dress sense
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    Ouch from Dave. His most brutal kicking of Jez ever.

    Taking his Boris-related frustrations out on the weakest kid in school? Sounds bit Eton to me.
    What frustrations ? The polls are moving towards Dave. He's relaxed.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @RalphBuckle: Corbyn: "Nye Bevan would be turning in his grave" ... Um he was cremated Jezza... #PMQs
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    Ouch from Dave. His most brutal kicking of Jez ever.

    Taking his Boris-related frustrations out on the weakest kid in school? Sounds bit Eton to me.
    What frustrations ? The polls are moving towards Dave. He's relaxed.
    He didn't seem relaxed on Monday. Anyway, who believes polls anymore.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,131
    From Corbyn's first PMQ's, he has constantly teed up a point only to allow Cameron to give a party political broadcast. The follow-up just isn't there. For the Leader of the Opposition to win PMQs, he needs to deliver a stiletto through the ribs, one after the other. Corbyn can't even find the rib-cage...
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Now a PPB for the Scottish Tories...
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    Sparrow's Snap PMQs verdict:

    It should be worrying for a Labour leader if he can’t win, or at least hold is own, on the NHS. Cameron knocked Corbyn.
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    isam said:

    What a wanker Cameron is.

    I've met a few PBers who are applauding his comments and am amazed they would side with someone who would attack on the grounds of looks and dress sense

    I think most of us would lose our rags if our mothers were brought into debates to attack us.
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    Sparrow's Snap PMQs verdict:

    It should be worrying for a Labour leader if he can’t win, or at least hold is own, on the NHS. Cameron knocked Corbyn.

    Shush. Dave's being a bully.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @georgeeaton: Problem for Corbyn is voters take the same view as Cameron's mother according to Labour MPs. #PMQs
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610

    MaxPB said:

    Ouch from Dave. His most brutal kicking of Jez ever.

    I think the press coverage of him selling out the nation to the EU is getting to him.
    Nonsense. His kicking off Boris saw Dave and Remain get a boost.
    Even then, I think it is getting to him on a personal level. He is taking the heat for Osborne, who can't front the Remain campaign as you pointed out a few threads ago.
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    tyson said:

    That's like saying Osama Bin Laden had fashionable footwear. Corbyn's fate is irreversibly set to end in doom, abject failure and recrimination. The die has been cast, the path is taken, and there is nothing he can now do to change it.

    TOPPING said:

    Good PMQs for Jezza.

    And he is entirely oblivious as he spends absolutely no time in the company of anyone who has not shared his beliefs for the last 30 years. Luckily for Jezza and his mates, the Labour party membership is as shielded from the consequences of Tory housing, NHS and welfare reforms, not to mention cuts in essential services, as he is, so not being elected into office is not a huge problem. It's the self-righteous, futile anger that is so gloriously enjoyable.

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    WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    tyson said:

    TGOHF said:

    Far better for Trump if Cruz stays in..


    I don't think it matters one jot. The Trump juggernaut is unstoppable for the GOP nomination. My major concern is will it take on enough momentum to take him to POTUS?

    I'd be interested here. How many people genuinely think Trump will be the next POTUS because I am seriously starting to have my doubts
    Imo it's very possible.

    * It's the Republicans' "turn"
    * Hillary has struggled to beat someone who should be only a fringe candidate for her own nomination. It's hard to get one's head around that actually.
    * Trump is a gaffe-prone populist, but since when has that been a fatal objection?
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    isam said:

    What a wanker Cameron is.

    I've met a few PBers who are applauding his comments and am amazed they would side with someone who would attack on the grounds of looks and dress sense

    I think most of us would lose our rags if our mothers were brought into debates to attack us.
    To be fair a Labour heckler brought up Cameron's Mum first.

    (Although I agree with David Aaronovitch on this)
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    isamisam Posts: 40,957
    edited February 2016

    isam said:

    What a wanker Cameron is.

    I've met a few PBers who are applauding his comments and am amazed they would side with someone who would attack on the grounds of looks and dress sense

    I think most of us would lose our rags if our mothers were brought into debates to attack us.
    Was it Corbyn who brought his mother into it?

    I'm just amazed that some of the ugliest and worst dressed people I've ever met are cheering on that jibe
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    LondonBob said:

    A shamelessly stolen “Trump Marches on Washington” version based on the “Napoleon Marches on Paris” piece that supposedly appeared in the French government’s official newspaper Le Moniteur in March 1815 when Napoleon Bonaparte escape from Elba and astonished Europe by retaking the throne via courage and charisma. Insulting names for Trump courtesy of Karl Rove, Charles Krauthammer, George Will, Jonah Goldberg, Steve Hayes, John Sununu, Rich Lowry, and Fred Barnes.

    April 2015: The Complete Idiot announces he’s seriously considering running for the Republican presidential nomination. On Fox News, George Will looked forward to watching him crash and burn.

    June 2015: The Al Sharpton of the Republican Party declared his candidacy in a rambling speech full of racist attacks on Mexican immigrants intended to rile up the teabaggers.

    June 2015: The Bloviating Ignoramus has taken a lead in the polls, but it’s still the silly season. Voters haven’t yet taken a look at the more plausible candidates.

    July 2015: The Bane of Humanity has insulted the war hero John McCain. He’s gotten away with his gaffes, insults and vulgarity so far, but this time he’s gone too far.

    August 2015: The Clown described our champion as “a low-energy person.” Rather than join Trump in the gutter, Jeb understands voters will quickly tire of Trump’s childish banter.

    August 2015: The Dancing Bear draws a crowd of 30,000 in Alabama.

    September 2015: The Most Fabulous Whiner in All of American Politics continues to hold his lead in the polls. Fox New analysts are confident that Republican voters will soon get serious.

    February 2016: The One-Man Wedge Issue said that George W. Bush lied to get us into Iraq. He’s done it now. Veterans, who revere the former president, are a major bloc in South Carolina.

    February 2016: Trump wins New Hampshire and South Carolina, but if all candidates but Rubio drop out and he gets their votes, Trump can be stopped.

    November 2016: Donald J. Trump has won the election. National Review publishes a special issues congratulating President Trump, featuring highlights of brilliant campaign. Fox All Stars offer him their counsel and assistance in instituting a true conservative agenda.

    LOL. Very good. But look at all the attack-ad material that Bill Clinton has on his computer for his wife.

    The McCain is not a war hero will play particularly well, night after night across the states.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @theobertram: I would be very surprised if Cameron hasn't been waiting to use that mum riposte for weeks - but still it was a belter
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    Has David Cameron ever been more in command, he looks totally motivated and relishing his Premiersip
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    That was a very funny knockabout, and Cameron said something he's clearly thought for months.

    I rewound it several times. It's the sort of stuff I'd say after a liquid lunch. It's either demob happy or trying to get some team points with the unimpressed on his own side.
    MaxPB said:

    Ouch from Dave. His most brutal kicking of Jez ever.

    I think the press coverage of him selling out the nation to the EU is getting to him.
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    isam said:

    isam said:

    What a wanker Cameron is.

    I've met a few PBers who are applauding his comments and am amazed they would side with someone who would attack on the grounds of looks and dress sense

    I think most of us would lose our rags if our mothers were brought into debates to attack us.
    Was it Corbyn who brought his mother into it?
    No he didn't. I didn't say that it was fair and I agree that it was way beneath the Prime Minister.

    But context is everything.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @adamboultonSKY: As for @AngusRobertson Why ask Qs which tee'd up DC to make Tory pitch to Scots voters? perhaps further Lab humiliation is @theSNP priority
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,892
    Watching the Tories here slip so easily between hared of 'Jez' and an even stronger hatred of Dave leaves me breathless.
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    isam said:

    isam said:

    What a wanker Cameron is.

    I've met a few PBers who are applauding his comments and am amazed they would side with someone who would attack on the grounds of looks and dress sense

    I think most of us would lose our rags if our mothers were brought into debates to attack us.
    Was it Corbyn who brought his mother into it?
    No he didn't. I didn't say that it was fair and I agree that it was way beneath the Prime Minister.

    But context is everything.
    Yes he did refer to DC's Mother. It was Corbyn who introduced it
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    Has David Cameron ever been more in command, he looks totally motivated and relishing his Premiersip

    Shame it might be over by end of June.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Trump 7/2 to be next POTUS with Betfair Exchange.

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.107373419
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    Has David Cameron ever been more in command, he looks totally motivated and relishing his Premiersip

    Shame it might be over by end of June.
    Not a chance
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    From OP: The only way that Trump can be stopped is if there’s one anti-Trump candidate ideally Rubio.

    In no-one's ideal world is Rubio the candidate. Even in this world, I suspect a lot of the GOP Establishment will prefer Trump as figurehead while the grown-ups get on with running the country.

    Now, the point is not that Trump can be bought off; of course he can't, but remember a new President brings his whole retinue as Cabinet members, ambassadors, civil servants and so on. Cruz or Rubio would bring their teams from Texas or Florida. The beauty of Trump, from this perspective, is that he has no candidate in mind for Secretary of Housing or Ambassador to Berlin, so can easily be persuaded to rubber stamp the Establishment candidates.

    Trump will pick his own people. He has already drafted Jeff Sessions' team to write his immigration policy. He is talking to the right people on foreign policy and ignoring the phoney neocon think tank fronts (follow the money).

    Personally I don't see Sessions being his VP, more valuable in the Senate. I would throw out Kris Kobach as a possible. Seen Scott Brown and Rick Scott touted. Reality is I have no clue, but I hope he remembers the Nixonian principle that the VP not be an incentive to any would be plotters against their President.
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    Roger said:

    Watching the Tories here slip so easily between hared of 'Jez' and an even stronger hatred of Dave leaves me breathless.

    I love Jez and Dave.

    Only Jez's fashion sense annoys me. I know I'm a fashion snob, as I'm currently wearing a £550 Hugo Boss suit, so my fashion tastes are very high.
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    isamisam Posts: 40,957

    isam said:

    isam said:

    What a wanker Cameron is.

    I've met a few PBers who are applauding his comments and am amazed they would side with someone who would attack on the grounds of looks and dress sense

    I think most of us would lose our rags if our mothers were brought into debates to attack us.
    Was it Corbyn who brought his mother into it?
    No he didn't. I didn't say that it was fair and I agree that it was way beneath the Prime Minister.

    But context is everything.
    Yes he did refer to DC's Mother. It was Corbyn who introduced it
    I'll have an even £50 that it wasn't Corbyn
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610
    tyson said:

    TGOHF said:

    Far better for Trump if Cruz stays in..


    I don't think it matters one jot. The Trump juggernaut is unstoppable for the GOP nomination. My major concern is will it take on enough momentum to take him to POTUS?

    I'd be interested here. How many people genuinely think Trump will be the next POTUS because I am seriously starting to have my doubts
    I think he has a good chance against Hillary. She can barely beat Sanders and is one of the most uninspiring choices for POTUS yet. Trump, for all of his many faults, is able to whip up the crowd, speak well and has some kind of idea of what he wants to do. Hillary is the "we stand for nothing except not losing" candidate
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,131
    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    What a wanker Cameron is.

    I've met a few PBers who are applauding his comments and am amazed they would side with someone who would attack on the grounds of looks and dress sense

    I think most of us would lose our rags if our mothers were brought into debates to attack us.
    Was it Corbyn who brought his mother into it?
    No he didn't. I didn't say that it was fair and I agree that it was way beneath the Prime Minister.

    But context is everything.
    Yes he did refer to DC's Mother. It was Corbyn who introduced it
    I'll have an even £50 that it wasn't Corbyn
    Corbyn did indeed start it - he was trying to get a dig at Cameron's mum complaining against local cuts.

    It didn't end well...
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    AndyJS said:

    Trump 7/2 to be next POTUS with Betfair Exchange.

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.107373419

    Once it's settled, I wonder if Trump will ever slip below 2/1 for Next President on Betfair?

    I can see the market consistently underestimating his true chances for similar reasons they did for the nominee.
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    edited February 2016
    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    What a wanker Cameron is.

    I've met a few PBers who are applauding his comments and am amazed they would side with someone who would attack on the grounds of looks and dress sense

    I think most of us would lose our rags if our mothers were brought into debates to attack us.
    Was it Corbyn who brought his mother into it?
    No he didn't. I didn't say that it was fair and I agree that it was way beneath the Prime Minister.

    But context is everything.
    Yes he did refer to DC's Mother. It was Corbyn who introduced it
    I'll have an even £50 that it wasn't Corbyn
    Thought it was a Labour heckler, not Corbyn? (Some comment about that anti-austerity petition that Cameron's mother signed)
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    tyson said:

    TGOHF said:

    Far better for Trump if Cruz stays in..


    I don't think it matters one jot. The Trump juggernaut is unstoppable for the GOP nomination. My major concern is will it take on enough momentum to take him to POTUS?

    I'd be interested here. How many people genuinely think Trump will be the next POTUS because I am seriously starting to have my doubts
    Not I for one.

    Trump has effectively sewn up the GOP nomination but becoming POTUS is a whole different ball game.

    Think on one factor. Why have the GOP establishment and their fellow travelers been desperate to avoid a Trump candidacy - They know he will crash and burn against Clinton.

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    PolruanPolruan Posts: 2,083

    tyson said:

    That's like saying Osama Bin Laden had fashionable footwear. Corbyn's fate is irreversibly set to end in doom, abject failure and recrimination. The die has been cast, the path is taken, and there is nothing he can now do to change it.

    TOPPING said:

    Good PMQs for Jezza.

    And he is entirely oblivious as he spends absolutely no time in the company of anyone who has not shared his beliefs for the last 30 years. Luckily for Jezza and his mates, the Labour party membership is as shielded from the consequences of Tory housing, NHS and welfare reforms, not to mention cuts in essential services, as he is, so not being elected into office is not a huge problem. It's the self-righteous, futile anger that is so gloriously enjoyable.

    I don't quite get that. The membership may well be deluded about the electability of their preferred policy prospectus but I don't see it as a luxury arising from being shielded from the current government's policies. I am fairly sure I'm the only member of my local constituency party with private healthcare for example.
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    isam said:

    isam said:

    What a wanker Cameron is.

    I've met a few PBers who are applauding his comments and am amazed they would side with someone who would attack on the grounds of looks and dress sense

    I think most of us would lose our rags if our mothers were brought into debates to attack us.
    Was it Corbyn who brought his mother into it?
    No he didn't. I didn't say that it was fair and I agree that it was way beneath the Prime Minister.

    But context is everything.
    Yes he did refer to DC's Mother. It was Corbyn who introduced it
    Yes, Corbyn alluded to Cameron's mother twice - then a Labour MP heckled 'Ask your Mum' as Cameron stood up - so I think Cameron's riposte was justified - its a harmless, humorous riposte - and entirely believable that a lady of Mrs Cameron's age would believe....
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Charles said:

    Thought it was a Labour heckler, not Corbyn? (Some comment about that anti-austerity petition that Cameron's mother signed)

    Twitter says it was A Eagle
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    It was noticeable how Cameron emphasised PATIENTS in his responses.

    Clear demarcation between vested interest vs patients.
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Roger said:

    Watching the Tories here slip so easily between hared of 'Jez' and an even stronger hatred of Dave leaves me breathless.

    I love Jez and Dave.

    Only Jez's fashion sense annoys me. I know I'm a fashion snob, as I'm currently wearing a £550 Hugo Boss suit, so my fashion tastes are very high.
    More high street than high, I think
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @theobertram: Great Mum line. Laboured @DPMcBride reference. But still. 6-0 Cameron. (Or a close draw, if you ask YouGov.) #pmqs
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    isamisam Posts: 40,957
    Charles said:

    Roger said:

    Watching the Tories here slip so easily between hared of 'Jez' and an even stronger hatred of Dave leaves me breathless.

    I love Jez and Dave.

    Only Jez's fashion sense annoys me. I know I'm a fashion snob, as I'm currently wearing a £550 Hugo Boss suit, so my fashion tastes are very high.
    More high street than high, I think
    I didn't know Boss did suits that cheap
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    Sparrow: - Cameron taunts Labour over the decision by Emily Thornberry to hire Damian McBride, Gordon Brown’s former adviser, as a spin doctor.

    Corbyn promised a politics that was honest, kinder and more caring, he says. Six months later they have hired McBride. That says it all, he says.
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    PolruanPolruan Posts: 2,083

    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    What a wanker Cameron is.

    I've met a few PBers who are applauding his comments and am amazed they would side with someone who would attack on the grounds of looks and dress sense

    I think most of us would lose our rags if our mothers were brought into debates to attack us.
    Was it Corbyn who brought his mother into it?
    No he didn't. I didn't say that it was fair and I agree that it was way beneath the Prime Minister.

    But context is everything.
    Yes he did refer to DC's Mother. It was Corbyn who introduced it
    I'll have an even £50 that it wasn't Corbyn
    Corbyn did indeed start it - he was trying to get a dig at Cameron's mum complaining against local cuts.

    It didn't end well...
    Corbyn reference appeared to be to Cameron's own comments on Oxfordshire cuts, not Cameron's mother's comments.
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