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  • surbiton said:

    surbiton said:

    MP_SE said:

    surbiton said:

    I'll be voting LEAVE because I believe in Britain.

    How about you?

    I'll be voting REMAIN because I believe in Britain in Europe [ and the World ].

    I want trade and human movement barriers coming down everywhere. Any country not doing so should have to pay an extra tariff.
    Don't you mean Britain in the European Union?
    I prefer the use of the expression "Britain in Europe".
    So you don't consider Norway to be part of Europe?

    Interesting. Would you be interested in some lessons in basic geography?
    Why do you bring the stupid referendum into everything ? REMAIN will win by over 20 points in any case.

    I want Britain in Europe because I want Britain to think it is in Europe like, e.g.Turkey.
    Er, Look at the previous comments in your little thread. You will see that it is you who brought the 'stupid referendum' into it with your first comment:

    "I'll be voting REMAIN because I believe in Britain in Europe "

    It looks like your understanding of basic English comprehension is about as advanced as your understanding of Geography.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,729
    edited February 2016
    Speedy said:

    Antonin Scalia has died. That's going to complicate the primaries.

    The debate is just 3 hours away, we will see the impact first hand.
    But who does this favour?
    RIP Judge Scalia.

    It solidifies each party behind more firmly ideological candidates, and behind its eventual nominee. Bad for Trump in primaries I think, but better for him if he does get the nomination, and it should stop Bloomberg stone cold.

    EDIT: I am assuming that, surely, Obama will not be permitted to appoint one of his Communist Islamist nominees by the God-fearing United States Senate.
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    Speedy said:

    it undercuts the argument that the next president will appoint supreme court replacements since it's too late for that, Obama will get the opportunity now, it ruins Hillary's point too.

    I don't see how. It's still extremely likely that the next President will replace Ginsburg, Kennedy and Breyer at the least. Replace them with conservatives and - boom.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    felix said:

    @Sean F

    You never will either - I believe many on the left don't get why people vote Tory - it's a mystery...However, if it makes you feel better we can agree about your comments being 'unexceptional' :)

    Not sure if you intended it to sound this way but it does sound like you are claiming Sean is on the Left. This is very much not the case. Until Recently Sean was one of the Tory party's staunchest defenders. It appears to be Cameron's policy on the EU that has driven Sean out, just as it did many more of us.
    You missed my earlier comments - I think he is as unrealistic on the right as are those on the left who are very emotional about their politics and therefore fail to grasp what motivates voters. I expect a defeat for Leave will produce a similar twitter meltdown to that after the election. If the result is the other way I doubt if it would be the same.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,931
    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Breaking News from america:

    Chris Cillizza ‏@TheFix 1m1 minute ago
    Antonin Scalia reportedly found dead at a West Texas ranch. http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/us-world/article/Senior-Associate-Justice-Antonin-Scalia-found-6828930.php

    There couldn't be a worst time for that to happen, just before a presidential election there will be the mother of all political fights about the composition of the Supreme Court.

    Scalia was a very conservative justice, if Obama or a Democrat gets to pick his replacement that will shift the Court to the left
    Can he?
    I don't think he has the votes in Congress.
    But what happens politically now?

    Which candidate does this favour ?
    Even if Obama will not get an outright liberal through Congress whoever he does nominate will be left of Scalia, I doubt it makes much difference to the primaries though
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    surbiton said:

    surbiton said:

    MP_SE said:

    surbiton said:

    I'll be voting LEAVE because I believe in Britain.

    How about you?

    I'll be voting REMAIN because I believe in Britain in Europe [ and the World ].

    I want trade and human movement barriers coming down everywhere. Any country not doing so should have to pay an extra tariff.
    Don't you mean Britain in the European Union?
    I prefer the use of the expression "Britain in Europe".
    So you don't consider Norway to be part of Europe?

    Interesting. Would you be interested in some lessons in basic geography?
    Why do you bring the stupid referendum into everything ? REMAIN will win by over 20 points in any case.

    I want Britain in Europe because I want Britain to think it is in Europe like, e.g.Turkey.
    Er, Look at the previous comments in your little thread. You will see that it is you who brought the 'stupid referendum' into it with your first comment:

    "I'll be voting REMAIN because I believe in Britain in Europe "

    It looks like your understanding of basic English comprehension is about as advanced as your understanding of Geography.
    If that pleases you in your sad life, then great ! REMAIN will win by 20 points. There I made you feel good again.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @keiranpedley: Is it credible that the nomination of the next Supreme Court Justice can be dragged out past November?

    @MSmithsonPB: . @keiranpedley Then President Sanders will decide
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,467

    felix said:

    @Sean F

    You never will either - I believe many on the left don't get why people vote Tory - it's a mystery...However, if it makes you feel better we can agree about your comments being 'unexceptional' :)

    Not sure if you intended it to sound this way but it does sound like you are claiming Sean is on the Left. This is very much not the case. Until Recently Sean was one of the Tory party's staunchest defenders. It appears to be Cameron's policy on the EU that has driven Sean out, just as it did many more of us.
    I think he's trying to argue that I'm stupid to believe that British voters aren't supportive of the EU, at an emotional level.

  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    test
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    chestnut said:

    The post-Brexit plan?

    Do we need one?

    There are a couple of hundred non-EU nations that seem to get by.

    Thanks for neatly summing up the problem for the Leave campaign.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    I'm back. Wow!!!
  • surbiton said:

    surbiton said:

    surbiton said:

    MP_SE said:

    surbiton said:

    I'll be voting LEAVE because I believe in Britain.

    How about you?

    I'll be voting REMAIN because I believe in Britain in Europe [ and the World ].

    I want trade and human movement barriers coming down everywhere. Any country not doing so should have to pay an extra tariff.
    Don't you mean Britain in the European Union?
    I prefer the use of the expression "Britain in Europe".
    So you don't consider Norway to be part of Europe?

    Interesting. Would you be interested in some lessons in basic geography?
    Why do you bring the stupid referendum into everything ? REMAIN will win by over 20 points in any case.

    I want Britain in Europe because I want Britain to think it is in Europe like, e.g.Turkey.
    Er, Look at the previous comments in your little thread. You will see that it is you who brought the 'stupid referendum' into it with your first comment:

    "I'll be voting REMAIN because I believe in Britain in Europe "

    It looks like your understanding of basic English comprehension is about as advanced as your understanding of Geography.
    If that pleases you in your sad life, then great ! REMAIN will win by 20 points. There I made you feel good again.
    Nope just enjoying pointing out that you are wrong on this. Just as you are on practically every other thing you have ever written on these pages. This is just a nice, easy obvious example of your lack of basic logic.
  • Just for fun. Was it the move against Delilah wot dun it?

    Richard @richie_1994wale
    ComRes UK (Wales)
    Con 37%
    Lab 23%
    Plaid 16%
    UKIP 15%
    LD 9%
    Conservatives lead 14%. Caution subsample but very worrying for Labour #Wales2016
  • MikeK said:

    I'm back. Wow!!!

    Hoorar, I can return my bloomberg terminal.
  • surbiton said:

    surbiton said:

    surbiton said:

    MP_SE said:

    surbiton said:

    I'll be voting LEAVE because I believe in Britain.

    How about you?

    I'll be voting REMAIN because I believe in Britain in Europe [ and the World ].

    I want trade and human movement barriers coming down everywhere. Any country not doing so should have to pay an extra tariff.
    Don't you mean Britain in the European Union?
    I prefer the use of the expression "Britain in Europe".
    So you don't consider Norway to be part of Europe?

    Interesting. Would you be interested in some lessons in basic geography?
    Why do you bring the stupid referendum into everything ? REMAIN will win by over 20 points in any case.

    I want Britain in Europe because I want Britain to think it is in Europe like, e.g.Turkey.
    Er, Look at the previous comments in your little thread. You will see that it is you who brought the 'stupid referendum' into it with your first comment:

    "I'll be voting REMAIN because I believe in Britain in Europe "

    It looks like your understanding of basic English comprehension is about as advanced as your understanding of Geography.
    If that pleases you in your sad life, then great ! REMAIN will win by 20 points. There I made you feel good again.
    60:40?

    Would you like to wager that it will be smaller than that? How about £50 to a charity of the winners choosing?
  • felix said:

    @Sean F

    You never will either - I believe many on the left don't get why people vote Tory - it's a mystery...However, if it makes you feel better we can agree about your comments being 'unexceptional' :)

    Not sure if you intended it to sound this way but it does sound like you are claiming Sean is on the Left. This is very much not the case. Until Recently Sean was one of the Tory party's staunchest defenders. It appears to be Cameron's policy on the EU that has driven Sean out, just as it did many more of us.
    I'm hoping you'll claim montie too before much longer... he's such a bore.
    To be honest I don't really know much about what Montie is writing these days. I don't go near Conhome and I have not read the Times sine it went behind the firewall so I wouldn't have the first idea about what he is saying. I was always turned off by his religious streak anyway.
  • Just for fun. Was it the move against Delilah wot dun it?

    Richard @richie_1994wale
    ComRes UK (Wales)
    Con 37%
    Lab 23%
    Plaid 16%
    UKIP 15%
    LD 9%
    Conservatives lead 14%. Caution subsample but very worrying for Labour #Wales2016

    My, my, my, Delilah
    Why, why, why, Delilah

    Whatever you do in Wales, don't take the name of God (Tom Jones) in vain...
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Breaking News from america:

    Chris Cillizza ‏@TheFix 1m1 minute ago
    Antonin Scalia reportedly found dead at a West Texas ranch. http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/us-world/article/Senior-Associate-Justice-Antonin-Scalia-found-6828930.php

    There couldn't be a worst time for that to happen, just before a presidential election there will be the mother of all political fights about the composition of the Supreme Court.

    Scalia was a very conservative justice, if Obama or a Democrat gets to pick his replacement that will shift the Court to the left
    Can he?
    I don't think he has the votes in Congress.
    But what happens politically now?

    Which candidate does this favour ?
    Even if Obama will not get an outright liberal through Congress whoever he does nominate will be left of Scalia, I doubt it makes much difference to the primaries though
    I had a teriffying moment trying to think of someone to the right of Scalia.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,467
    surbiton said:

    The number of racists has gone down by one.

    Classy.

  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    Sean_F said:

    felix said:

    @Sean F

    You never will either - I believe many on the left don't get why people vote Tory - it's a mystery...However, if it makes you feel better we can agree about your comments being 'unexceptional' :)

    Not sure if you intended it to sound this way but it does sound like you are claiming Sean is on the Left. This is very much not the case. Until Recently Sean was one of the Tory party's staunchest defenders. It appears to be Cameron's policy on the EU that has driven Sean out, just as it did many more of us.
    I think he's trying to argue that I'm stupid to believe that British voters aren't supportive of the EU, at an emotional level.

    Not at all what I said - indeed quite the opposite - I'm pointing out that emotional support is neither here nor there. How very odd that you don't seem to get it.
  • TSE - glad to see your op went OK. If you have to give up Liverpool for your health, well so be it. ... best not switch to my boys tho
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,467
    felix said:

    Sean_F said:

    felix said:

    @Sean F

    You never will either - I believe many on the left don't get why people vote Tory - it's a mystery...However, if it makes you feel better we can agree about your comments being 'unexceptional' :)

    Not sure if you intended it to sound this way but it does sound like you are claiming Sean is on the Left. This is very much not the case. Until Recently Sean was one of the Tory party's staunchest defenders. It appears to be Cameron's policy on the EU that has driven Sean out, just as it did many more of us.
    I think he's trying to argue that I'm stupid to believe that British voters aren't supportive of the EU, at an emotional level.

    Not at all what I said - indeed quite the opposite - I'm pointing out that emotional support is neither here nor there. How very odd that you don't seem to get it.
    Obviously it matters. The Unionists would never have won the Sindy Referendum were it not for the fact that many Scots have an emotional attachment to the UK.

    But, emotions aren't enough on their own to win.
  • TSE - glad to see your op went OK. If you have to give up Liverpool for your health, well so be it. ... best not switch to my boys tho

    I'm never giving up Liverpool.

    You can change your nationality, your profession, your name, your house, and even your wife, but you can never change your football club.
  • TSE - glad to see your op went OK. If you have to give up Liverpool for your health, well so be it. ... best not switch to my boys tho

    I'm never giving up Liverpool.

    You can change your nationality, your profession, your name, your house, and even your wife, but you can never change your football club.
    Sol Campbell

  • The longest Supreme Court confirmation process from nomination to resolution was Brandeis, at 125 days. Obama has 342 days left in office.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Sean_F said:

    surbiton said:

    The number of racists has gone down by one.

    Classy.

    It's the new honest politics from the actual nasty party innit
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    You can change your nationality, your profession, your name, your house, and even your wife, but you can never change your football club.

    Wanna guess how many Man U fans are buying Leicester season tickets...
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited February 2016
    First reaction from the candidates:

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 7m7 minutes ago
    The totally unexpected loss of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is a massive setback for the Conservative movement and our COUNTRY!

    Ted Cruz ‏@tedcruz 15m15 minutes ago
    Justice Scalia was an American hero. We owe it to him, & the Nation, for the Senate to ensure that the next President names his replacement.

    I'm out till the debate, where as always will try to live comment on it on PB.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Kate Hoey ✔ @KateHoeyMP
    Maybe some recognition that Labour out of touch with Labour supporters on the EU might help #Brexit https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/698632649372475393
  • TSE - glad to see your op went OK. If you have to give up Liverpool for your health, well so be it. ... best not switch to my boys tho

    I'm never giving up Liverpool.

    You can change your nationality, your profession, your name, your house, and even your wife, but you can never change your football club.
    Sol Campbell

    He was the Mark Reckless of the football world.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,467
    Speedy said:

    First reaction from the candidates:

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 7m7 minutes ago
    The totally unexpected loss of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is a massive setback for the Conservative movement and our COUNTRY!

    Ted Cruz ‏@tedcruz 15m15 minutes ago
    Justice Scalia was an American hero. We owe it to him, & the Nation, for the Senate to ensure that the next President names his replacement.

    I'm out till the debate, where as always will try to live comment on it on PB.

    Trump is right that it's a massive setback for conservatives.
  • felix said:

    @Sean F

    You never will either - I believe many on the left don't get why people vote Tory - it's a mystery...However, if it makes you feel better we can agree about your comments being 'unexceptional' :)

    Not sure if you intended it to sound this way but it does sound like you are claiming Sean is on the Left. This is very much not the case. Until Recently Sean was one of the Tory party's staunchest defenders. It appears to be Cameron's policy on the EU that has driven Sean out, just as it did many more of us.
    I'm hoping you'll claim montie too before much longer... he's such a bore.
    To be honest I don't really know much about what Montie is writing these days. I don't go near Conhome and I have not read the Times sine it went behind the firewall so I wouldn't have the first idea about what he is saying. I was always turned off by his religious streak anyway.
    He's still tweeting the same old crap, like with tonight's poll he's added the ukip and tory% as if that's cos both are still a meme re 'Unite the right'... that thing which would stop the Tories ever getting a majority.
  • perdixperdix Posts: 1,806
    MikeK said:

    On Thread.
    People are beginning to wake up to the hole that Britain is in. Placed there by the elite politicians of all the major parties and their many supporters in Business, Education and the Arts.

    They know in their bones that Britain is being run by Corrupt Charlatans and liars, brought about by the chief Charlatan and Liar, "call me Dave" himself.

    Only today these so called politicians want to start a war with Russia, egged on by that madman Kerry of the USA, and who is now interfering in our referendum.

    The next few weeks could see dirt flying all over the place; but I know who will get the most mud on their faces - the British People, as they see their nation subverted from within.

    Did you forget to take your tablets today?

  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    TSE - glad to see your op went OK. If you have to give up Liverpool for your health, well so be it. ... best not switch to my boys tho

    I'm never giving up Liverpool.

    You can change your nationality, your profession, your name, your house, and even your wife, but you can never change your football club.
    David Cameron ?
  • Diego Costa looks very Hannibal like...
  • runnymederunnymede Posts: 2,536
    'The number of racists has gone down by one.'

    Sadly the same can't be said of the number of cretins on this board
  • TSE - glad to see your op went OK. If you have to give up Liverpool for your health, well so be it. ... best not switch to my boys tho

    I'm never giving up Liverpool.

    You can change your nationality, your profession, your name, your house, and even your wife, but you can never change your football club.
    Sol Campbell

    He was the Mark Reckless of the football world.
    Fat arse wasn't THAT bad.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    TSE - glad to see your op went OK. If you have to give up Liverpool for your health, well so be it. ... best not switch to my boys tho

    I'm never giving up Liverpool.

    You can change your nationality, your profession, your name, your house, and even your wife, but you can never change your football club.
    One of several football bets looking good for me this season is Liverpool bottom half at 25/1 :-)

    You may enjoy this piece in the Leicester Mercureh about how to be a Leicester glory supporter:

    http://m.leicestermercury.co.uk/glory-hunter-s-guide-supporting-Leicester-City/story-28724031-detail/story.html

    * watching MOTD Chelsea seem to have a couple of signings from Marvel...
  • felix said:

    @Sean F

    You never will either - I believe many on the left don't get why people vote Tory - it's a mystery...However, if it makes you feel better we can agree about your comments being 'unexceptional' :)

    Not sure if you intended it to sound this way but it does sound like you are claiming Sean is on the Left. This is very much not the case. Until Recently Sean was one of the Tory party's staunchest defenders. It appears to be Cameron's policy on the EU that has driven Sean out, just as it did many more of us.
    I'm hoping you'll claim montie too before much longer... he's such a bore.
    To be honest I don't really know much about what Montie is writing these days. I don't go near Conhome and I have not read the Times sine it went behind the firewall so I wouldn't have the first idea about what he is saying. I was always turned off by his religious streak anyway.
    He's still tweeting the same old crap, like with tonight's poll he's added the ukip and tory% as if that's cos both are still a meme re 'Unite the right'... that thing which would stop the Tories ever getting a majority.
    I can see I am not missing anything then :-)
  • Scott_P said:

    You can change your nationality, your profession, your name, your house, and even your wife, but you can never change your football club.

    Wanna guess how many Man U fans are buying Leicester season tickets...
    Well it is closer for them from euston....
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Jeremy Corbyn set to condemn Tory limits on EU migration

    Labour leader will argue that discriminating against workers from eastern Europe is unfair

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/13/jeremy-corbyn-condemns-tory-limits-eu-migration
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,378
    edited February 2016
    Hold on but it says they had loads of losses (which they rolled over, which is standard) and they only paid dividends in 2015, so it doesn't sound like they have been profiteering. And personally Osborne has been paid a grand total of £1200 for his massive 1% stake in the company.

    Not exactly like they have revealed google-esque $130 million pay out to the top bod.
  • felix said:

    @Sean F

    You never will either - I believe many on the left don't get why people vote Tory - it's a mystery...However, if it makes you feel better we can agree about your comments being 'unexceptional' :)

    Not sure if you intended it to sound this way but it does sound like you are claiming Sean is on the Left. This is very much not the case. Until Recently Sean was one of the Tory party's staunchest defenders. It appears to be Cameron's policy on the EU that has driven Sean out, just as it did many more of us.
    I'm hoping you'll claim montie too before much longer... he's such a bore.
    To be honest I don't really know much about what Montie is writing these days. I don't go near Conhome and I have not read the Times sine it went behind the firewall so I wouldn't have the first idea about what he is saying. I was always turned off by his religious streak anyway.
    He's still tweeting the same old crap, like with tonight's poll he's added the ukip and tory% as if that's cos both are still a meme re 'Unite the right'... that thing which would stop the Tories ever getting a majority.
    I can see I am not missing anything then :-)
    He is the pub bore, always wrong, never learns.. never be a pb tory!!
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,467

    Jeremy Corbyn set to condemn Tory limits on EU migration

    Labour leader will argue that discriminating against workers from eastern Europe is unfair

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/13/jeremy-corbyn-condemns-tory-limits-eu-migration

    It's remarkable how Corbyn leaves no stone unturned in his quest to destroy Labour's chances.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,729

    The longest Supreme Court confirmation process from nomination to resolution was Brandeis, at 125 days. Obama has 342 days left in office.

    You need to include the failed procedures too. Sandra Day O'Connor to Justice Alito was 7 months. Lewis Powell to Justice Kennedy was 8 months. And needless to say, nowadays, any Republican Majority Senator who votes for an Obama nominee is getting fired in November.
  • Jeremy Corbyn set to condemn Tory limits on EU migration

    Labour leader will argue that discriminating against workers from eastern Europe is unfair

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/13/jeremy-corbyn-condemns-tory-limits-eu-migration

    Reckon UKIP will overtake labour in the polls in the next few weeks if he really is so out of touch with the voters
  • Jeremy Corbyn set to condemn Tory limits on EU migration

    Labour leader will argue that discriminating against workers from eastern Europe is unfair

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/13/jeremy-corbyn-condemns-tory-limits-eu-migration

    Wonder what Mrs Duffy makes of this?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @tedcruz: Justice Scalia was an American hero. We owe it to him, & the Nation, for the Senate to ensure that the next President names his replacement.

    @kcm74: Breaking: Canadian doesn't understand US Constitution. https://t.co/6XmmckfxdK
  • notmenotme Posts: 3,293

    Just for fun. Was it the move against Delilah wot dun it?

    Richard @richie_1994wale
    ComRes UK (Wales)
    Con 37%
    Lab 23%
    Plaid 16%
    UKIP 15%
    LD 9%
    Conservatives lead 14%. Caution subsample but very worrying for Labour #Wales2016

    Is there a real risk that the polling correction mechanisms are now over correcting for pro labour bias? We cant really take seriously that in May, we will see anything remotely like this result, can we?
  • This could change everything.

    Leeds United have started legal action against the Football League in an attempt to dismantle the collective selling of TV rights and win the right to sell their own games, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.


    http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/football/article-3445896/Massimo-Cellino-new-fury-Leeds-United-owner-launches-bid-break-clubs-100m-television-deal.html
  • Speedy said:

    First reaction from the candidates:

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 7m7 minutes ago
    The totally unexpected loss of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is a massive setback for the Conservative movement and our COUNTRY!

    Ted Cruz ‏@tedcruz 15m15 minutes ago
    Justice Scalia was an American hero. We owe it to him, & the Nation, for the Senate to ensure that the next President names his replacement.

    I'm out till the debate, where as always will try to live comment on it on PB.

    Cruz emphasises that the *next* president appoint his successor. Obama has a year or so left in office which is more than enough time in normal circumstances.

    (Can he appoint himself? Obama was a constitutional law professor in his former life.)
  • notme said:

    Just for fun. Was it the move against Delilah wot dun it?

    Richard @richie_1994wale
    ComRes UK (Wales)
    Con 37%
    Lab 23%
    Plaid 16%
    UKIP 15%
    LD 9%
    Conservatives lead 14%. Caution subsample but very worrying for Labour #Wales2016

    Is there a real risk that the polling correction mechanisms are now over correcting for pro labour bias? We cant really take seriously that in May, we will see anything remotely like this result, can we?
    Is a sub sample. Ignore.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Jeremy Corbyn set to condemn Tory limits on EU migration

    Labour leader will argue that discriminating against workers from eastern Europe is unfair

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/13/jeremy-corbyn-condemns-tory-limits-eu-migration

    Reckon UKIP will overtake labour in the polls in the next few weeks if he really is so out of touch with the voters
    Though this weeks council by elections point the other way.

    Indeed there does seem to be quite a paradox going on in polls vs elections. We shall have to see how things work out in May.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    (Can he appoint himself? Obama was a constitutional law professor in his former life.)

    I have already seen it suggested that Clinton should appoint Obama...
  • This could change everything.

    Leeds United have started legal action against the Football League in an attempt to dismantle the collective selling of TV rights and win the right to sell their own games, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.


    http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/football/article-3445896/Massimo-Cellino-new-fury-Leeds-United-owner-launches-bid-break-clubs-100m-television-deal.html

    Aren't Virgin pursing some legal avenues as well?
  • Speedy said:

    First reaction from the candidates:

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 7m7 minutes ago
    The totally unexpected loss of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is a massive setback for the Conservative movement and our COUNTRY!

    Ted Cruz ‏@tedcruz 15m15 minutes ago
    Justice Scalia was an American hero. We owe it to him, & the Nation, for the Senate to ensure that the next President names his replacement.

    I'm out till the debate, where as always will try to live comment on it on PB.

    Cruz emphasises that the *next* president appoint his successor. Obama has a year or so left in office which is more than enough time in normal circumstances.

    (Can he appoint himself? Obama was a constitutional law professor in his former life.)
    Separation of powers. He can't be concurrently POTUS and Chief Justice.

    Taft is the only POTUS who became Supreme Court Justice (after a gap of eight years)
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Justice Scalia’s Death and Implications for the 2016 Election, the Supreme Court and the Nation

    http://electionlawblog.org/?p=79915
  • Jeremy Corbyn set to condemn Tory limits on EU migration

    Labour leader will argue that discriminating against workers from eastern Europe is unfair

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/13/jeremy-corbyn-condemns-tory-limits-eu-migration

    Reckon UKIP will overtake labour in the polls in the next few weeks if he really is so out of touch with the voters
    Though this weeks council by elections point the other way.

    Indeed there does seem to be quite a paradox going on in polls vs elections. We shall have to see how things work out in May.
    They were before this latest out of touch essay on immigration - as a lifelong Man Utd supporter, yes and born in Manchester, may I send you a genuine good luck message for the Premiership - Leicester have been a breath of fresh air this season
  • This could change everything.

    Leeds United have started legal action against the Football League in an attempt to dismantle the collective selling of TV rights and win the right to sell their own games, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.


    http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/football/article-3445896/Massimo-Cellino-new-fury-Leeds-United-owner-launches-bid-break-clubs-100m-television-deal.html

    Aren't Virgin pursing some legal avenues as well?
    Kinda. They want to make all 380 Premier League matches live on TV in England
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,138
    Oh its like old times, a thread analysing an Opinion Poll. Makes me come over all nostalgic.
  • This could change everything.

    Leeds United have started legal action against the Football League in an attempt to dismantle the collective selling of TV rights and win the right to sell their own games, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.


    http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/football/article-3445896/Massimo-Cellino-new-fury-Leeds-United-owner-launches-bid-break-clubs-100m-television-deal.html

    Aren't Virgin pursing some legal avenues as well?
    Kinda. They want to make all 380 Premier League matches live on TV in England
    At the same time !!!
  • DavidL said:

    Oh its like old times, a thread analysing an Opinion Poll. Makes me come over all nostalgic.

    Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
  • Scott_P said:

    (Can he appoint himself? Obama was a constitutional law professor in his former life.)

    I have already seen it suggested that Clinton should appoint Obama...
    Appointing a successor will add spice to the election, and maybe we'll be able to bet on it. Republicans led by Cruz might block Obama's candidate, but that only delays things if Hillary wins the White House. On the other hand, Obama might feel obliged to nominate a more neutral judge to placate Republicans, who then will face a double-or-quits choice based on who they think will win the presidency with the freedom to appoint a more partisan justice.

    Cruz has form though, having held up the US ambassador to Norway for over two years.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,378
    edited February 2016

    This could change everything.

    Leeds United have started legal action against the Football League in an attempt to dismantle the collective selling of TV rights and win the right to sell their own games, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.


    http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/football/article-3445896/Massimo-Cellino-new-fury-Leeds-United-owner-launches-bid-break-clubs-100m-television-deal.html

    Aren't Virgin pursing some legal avenues as well?
    Kinda. They want to make all 380 Premier League matches live on TV in England
    TBH, even with the mega deal the premier league got, I can see them being interested in this. With internet and how cheap it is to have a satellite channel, a system like they have in the NFL could easily work in the UK and be very very lucrative.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,138

    DavidL said:

    Oh its like old times, a thread analysing an Opinion Poll. Makes me come over all nostalgic.

    Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
    It never was.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,598
    edited February 2016

    This could change everything.

    Leeds United have started legal action against the Football League in an attempt to dismantle the collective selling of TV rights and win the right to sell their own games, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.


    http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/football/article-3445896/Massimo-Cellino-new-fury-Leeds-United-owner-launches-bid-break-clubs-100m-television-deal.html

    Aren't Virgin pursing some legal avenues as well?
    Kinda. They want to make all 380 Premier League matches live on TV in England
    TBH, even with the mega deal the premier league got, I can see them being interested in this. With internet and how cheap it is to have a satellite channel, a system like they have in the NFL could easily work in the UK and be very very lucrative.
    I think we'll see club season tickets. Something like £100 per season to watch all your team's matches.
  • It was once rumoured that Tony Blair's resignation was to be timed to allow Cherie's elevation to the High Court bench. That never happened, of course. Yet.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,138
    edited February 2016
    Anyway that apparently useless incompetent Osborne has managed to deliver full employment: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/12155324/UK-unemployment-on-course-to-fall-to-fresh-ten-year-low.html

    At 5% we are at frictional unemployment levels. It is an astonishing achievement, especially when it is considered how many of the new jobs have gone to immigrants, the unemployed of other EU countries and the reductions in the head count in the public sector.

    But I am sure the usual suspects will be along shortly to point out he missed targets set in a budget speech in 2010 or something equally heinous.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @JackTindale: President Trump will host a hit primetime series where twelve budding Judges are whittled down to one lucky Associate Justice. #scalia
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,138

    This could change everything.

    Leeds United have started legal action against the Football League in an attempt to dismantle the collective selling of TV rights and win the right to sell their own games, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.


    http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/football/article-3445896/Massimo-Cellino-new-fury-Leeds-United-owner-launches-bid-break-clubs-100m-television-deal.html

    Aren't Virgin pursing some legal avenues as well?
    Kinda. They want to make all 380 Premier League matches live on TV in England
    TBH, even with the mega deal the premier league got, I can see them being interested in this. With internet and how cheap it is to have a satellite channel, a system like they have in the NFL could easily work in the UK and be very very lucrative.
    I think we'll see club season tickets. Something like £100 per season to watch all your team's matches.
    How much not to watch them? That was torture today.
  • This could change everything.

    Leeds United have started legal action against the Football League in an attempt to dismantle the collective selling of TV rights and win the right to sell their own games, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.


    http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/football/article-3445896/Massimo-Cellino-new-fury-Leeds-United-owner-launches-bid-break-clubs-100m-television-deal.html

    Aren't Virgin pursing some legal avenues as well?
    Kinda. They want to make all 380 Premier League matches live on TV in England
    TBH, even with the mega deal the premier league got, I can see them being interested in this. With internet and how cheap it is to have a satellite channel, a system like they have in the NFL could easily work in the UK and be very very lucrative.
    I think we'll see club season tickets. Something like £100 per season to watch all your team's matches.
    I think it has to happen, as everybody knows somewhere they can watch the 3pm's live these days and of course the internet. There is a particular bit of low cost kit which I won't mention, can easily be re-purposed that was totally sold out at Christmas and even the high street shops selling it are totally aware why the demand.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,931
    Alistair said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Breaking News from america:

    Chris Cillizza ‏@TheFix 1m1 minute ago
    Antonin Scalia reportedly found dead at a West Texas ranch. http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/us-world/article/Senior-Associate-Justice-Antonin-Scalia-found-6828930.php

    There couldn't be a worst time for that to happen, just before a presidential election there will be the mother of all political fights about the composition of the Supreme Court.

    Scalia was a very conservative justice, if Obama or a Democrat gets to pick his replacement that will shift the Court to the left
    Can he?
    I don't think he has the votes in Congress.
    But what happens politically now?

    Which candidate does this favour ?
    Even if Obama will not get an outright liberal through Congress whoever he does nominate will be left of Scalia, I doubt it makes much difference to the primaries though
    I had a teriffying moment trying to think of someone to the right of Scalia.
    Ann Coulter?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,931
    edited February 2016
    Quite clearly Trump likes him so he does not want to lose that relationship!
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    the identities and backgrounds of those controlling Momentum can be revealed for the first time.

    The newly appointed national leaders of the group include people who have defended violence, described the 2011 riots as an “uprising against the police”, banned participation in Remembrance Day, stood for election against the Labour Party, committed voter fraud, or were suspended from Labour for supporting a second convicted election fraudster.

    Five of the eight members of Momentum’s new national “steering committee”, announced last week, have endorsed or taken part in revolutionary or anti-democratic activity, or excused violence, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/12156177/momentum-activists-jeremy-corbyn-labour-purge.html
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    DavidL said:

    This could change everything.

    Leeds United have started legal action against the Football League in an attempt to dismantle the collective selling of TV rights and win the right to sell their own games, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.


    http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/football/article-3445896/Massimo-Cellino-new-fury-Leeds-United-owner-launches-bid-break-clubs-100m-television-deal.html

    Aren't Virgin pursing some legal avenues as well?
    Kinda. They want to make all 380 Premier League matches live on TV in England
    TBH, even with the mega deal the premier league got, I can see them being interested in this. With internet and how cheap it is to have a satellite channel, a system like they have in the NFL could easily work in the UK and be very very lucrative.
    I think we'll see club season tickets. Something like £100 per season to watch all your team's matches.
    How much not to watch them? That was torture today.
    It was rather considerate of Man U to put such space between us and 5th place. Champions League now nailed on!
  • Scott_P said:

    the identities and backgrounds of those controlling Momentum can be revealed for the first time.

    The newly appointed national leaders of the group include people who have defended violence, described the 2011 riots as an “uprising against the police”, banned participation in Remembrance Day, stood for election against the Labour Party, committed voter fraud, or were suspended from Labour for supporting a second convicted election fraudster.

    Five of the eight members of Momentum’s new national “steering committee”, announced last week, have endorsed or taken part in revolutionary or anti-democratic activity, or excused violence, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/12156177/momentum-activists-jeremy-corbyn-labour-purge.html

    Sound like a charming lot...and we are supposed to be more concerned about Osborne getting a £1200 dividend?
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,729

    Scott_P said:

    (Can he appoint himself? Obama was a constitutional law professor in his former life.)

    I have already seen it suggested that Clinton should appoint Obama...
    Appointing a successor will add spice to the election, and maybe we'll be able to bet on it. Republicans led by Cruz might block Obama's candidate, but that only delays things if Hillary wins the White House. On the other hand, Obama might feel obliged to nominate a more neutral judge to placate Republicans, who then will face a double-or-quits choice based on who they think will win the presidency with the freedom to appoint a more partisan justice.

    Cruz has form though, having held up the US ambassador to Norway for over two years.
    Obama will not nominate a moderate
    He has repeatedly defeated conservative Republicans in Congress and his legacy as a liberal icon is on the line with this presumably final point of conflict
    He won't defeat them this time but neither can he concede to them without a fight, so it will be stalemate
    Instead, he will dare them to keep voting down a qualified liberal nominee and the conflict will remind liberals why they really need to support Clinton if she wins
  • Jeremy Corbyn set to condemn Tory limits on EU migration

    Labour leader will argue that discriminating against workers from eastern Europe is unfair

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/13/jeremy-corbyn-condemns-tory-limits-eu-migration

    Reckon UKIP will overtake labour in the polls in the next few weeks if he really is so out of touch with the voters
    Though this weeks council by elections point the other way.

    Indeed there does seem to be quite a paradox going on in polls vs elections. We shall have to see how things work out in May.
    I don't see UKIP overtaking Labour at any time in the near future. But it is fair to say that as far as UKIP is concerned the local election results leading up to the GE were a poor reflection of their final vote share although not of the number of seats they got.
  • Twitter.

    This is the first Supreme Court vacancy under a Democratic president and a Republican Senate since 1888.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,729

    Scott_P said:

    the identities and backgrounds of those controlling Momentum can be revealed for the first time.

    The newly appointed national leaders of the group include people who have defended violence, described the 2011 riots as an “uprising against the police”, banned participation in Remembrance Day, stood for election against the Labour Party, committed voter fraud, or were suspended from Labour for supporting a second convicted election fraudster.

    Five of the eight members of Momentum’s new national “steering committee”, announced last week, have endorsed or taken part in revolutionary or anti-democratic activity, or excused violence, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/12156177/momentum-activists-jeremy-corbyn-labour-purge.html
    Sound like a charming lot...and we are supposed to be more concerned about Osborne getting a £1200 dividend?

    Osborne too has excused violence, unless we think that firing projectiles into Syria would have been a gay affair involving sunflowers and rainbows
  • DavidL said:

    Anyway that apparently useless incompetent Osborne has managed to deliver full employment: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/12155324/UK-unemployment-on-course-to-fall-to-fresh-ten-year-low.html

    At 5% we are at frictional unemployment levels. It is an astonishing achievement, especially when it is considered how many of the new jobs have gone to immigrants, the unemployed of other EU countries and the reductions in the head count in the public sector.

    But I am sure the usual suspects will be along shortly to point out he missed targets set in a budget speech in 2010 or something equally heinous.

    Or that the equally incompetent Gordon Brown presided over similar or lower levels.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited February 2016
    SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
    MILLER v. ALBRIGHT, SECRETARY OF STATE
    CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT

    No. 96—1060. Argued November 4, 1997–Decided April 22, 1998

    Justice Scalia, with whom Justice Thomas joins, concurring in the judgment.

    '...The Constitution “contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two only: birth and naturalization.” United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 702 (1898). Under the Fourteenth Amendment, “[e]very person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States, and needs no naturalization.” Ibid. Petitioner, having been born outside the territory of the United States, is an alien as far as the Constitution is concerned, and “can only become a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory; or by authority of Congress.” Id., at 702—703; see also Rogers v. Bellei, 401 U.S. 815, 827 (1971)...' [my emphasis]

    Hence, the late Justice Scalia, in concurrence with numerous previous judgements of the SCOTUS, explains that people situated as Ted Cruz are naturalized citizens of the US, and are aliens as far as the Constitution is concerned.

    Ergo, not a natural born citizen, and therefore ineligible to ascend to the Presidency...
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,729

    DavidL said:

    Anyway that apparently useless incompetent Osborne has managed to deliver full employment: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/12155324/UK-unemployment-on-course-to-fall-to-fresh-ten-year-low.html

    At 5% we are at frictional unemployment levels. It is an astonishing achievement, especially when it is considered how many of the new jobs have gone to immigrants, the unemployed of other EU countries and the reductions in the head count in the public sector.

    But I am sure the usual suspects will be along shortly to point out he missed targets set in a budget speech in 2010 or something equally heinous.

    Or that the equally incompetent Gordon Brown presided over similar or lower levels.
    That was Guido Loony Dickwit McBroon Tractor Stats
    This is A Good Thing that means everyone who ever criticised Osborne should shut up forever
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,138

    DavidL said:

    This could change everything.

    Leeds United have started legal action against the Football League in an attempt to dismantle the collective selling of TV rights and win the right to sell their own games, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.


    http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/football/article-3445896/Massimo-Cellino-new-fury-Leeds-United-owner-launches-bid-break-clubs-100m-television-deal.html

    Aren't Virgin pursing some legal avenues as well?
    Kinda. They want to make all 380 Premier League matches live on TV in England
    TBH, even with the mega deal the premier league got, I can see them being interested in this. With internet and how cheap it is to have a satellite channel, a system like they have in the NFL could easily work in the UK and be very very lucrative.
    I think we'll see club season tickets. Something like £100 per season to watch all your team's matches.
    How much not to watch them? That was torture today.
    It was rather considerate of Man U to put such space between us and 5th place. Champions League now nailed on!
    We have no chance of making the top 4 now which will make the job of the next manager attracting the right quality of players much harder. LVG has been a bit of a disaster I'm afraid although in fairness to him the quality of the squad he inherited left much to be desired.

    Anyway Leicester should have their minds on much higher things than the top 4. Carpe diem.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,729
    Scott_P said:

    Nicola's generation...

    The SNP are responsible for all the poverty and inequality in Scotland
    The Conservative Party are not responsible for any of that, but are responsible for all the good things involving unemployment and The Security Of Your Etc.
    More of the sharp, cutting analysis that PB comments pats itself on the back for
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Jeremy Corbyn set to condemn Tory limits on EU migration

    Labour leader will argue that discriminating against workers from eastern Europe is unfair

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/13/jeremy-corbyn-condemns-tory-limits-eu-migration

    Reckon UKIP will overtake labour in the polls in the next few weeks if he really is so out of touch with the voters
    Though this weeks council by elections point the other way.

    Indeed there does seem to be quite a paradox going on in polls vs elections. We shall have to see how things work out in May.
    I don't see UKIP overtaking Labour at any time in the near future. But it is fair to say that as far as UKIP is concerned the local election results leading up to the GE were a poor reflection of their final vote share although not of the number of seats they got.
    UKIP are distinctive for their international views, on domestic policy they are all over the place, with Libertarians supporting the spare room subsidy. I cannot see the point in voting kipper in local elections, and it seems that I am not alone.

    What happens after the referendum is not yet clear. Anything tighter than 55-45% would probably give them a role.

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    EPG said:

    The SNP are responsible for all the poverty and inequality in Scotland
    The Conservative Party are not responsible for any of that, but are responsible for all the good things involving unemployment and The Security Of Your Etc.
    More of the sharp, cutting analysis that PB comments pats itself on the back for

    The SNP had a chance this week to vote for higher public spending, and decided not to
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,138

    DavidL said:

    Anyway that apparently useless incompetent Osborne has managed to deliver full employment: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/12155324/UK-unemployment-on-course-to-fall-to-fresh-ten-year-low.html

    At 5% we are at frictional unemployment levels. It is an astonishing achievement, especially when it is considered how many of the new jobs have gone to immigrants, the unemployed of other EU countries and the reductions in the head count in the public sector.

    But I am sure the usual suspects will be along shortly to point out he missed targets set in a budget speech in 2010 or something equally heinous.

    Or that the equally incompetent Gordon Brown presided over similar or lower levels.
    Only by boosting the public sector headcount to record and unsustainable levels.
  • DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    This could change everything.

    Leeds United have started legal action against the Football League in an attempt to dismantle the collective selling of TV rights and win the right to sell their own games, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.


    http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/football/article-3445896/Massimo-Cellino-new-fury-Leeds-United-owner-launches-bid-break-clubs-100m-television-deal.html

    Aren't Virgin pursing some legal avenues as well?
    Kinda. They want to make all 380 Premier League matches live on TV in England
    TBH, even with the mega deal the premier league got, I can see them being interested in this. With internet and how cheap it is to have a satellite channel, a system like they have in the NFL could easily work in the UK and be very very lucrative.
    I think we'll see club season tickets. Something like £100 per season to watch all your team's matches.
    How much not to watch them? That was torture today.
    It was rather considerate of Man U to put such space between us and 5th place. Champions League now nailed on!
    We have no chance of making the top 4 now which will make the job of the next manager attracting the right quality of players much harder. LVG has been a bit of a disaster I'm afraid although in fairness to him the quality of the squad he inherited left much to be desired.

    Anyway Leicester should have their minds on much higher things than the top 4. Carpe diem.
    LVG's problem is that apart from Martial none of the £250 million spent has turned up even one World class player. He is hopeless and needs to go, the sooner the better. It reminds me of coming home from matches in the 1980's with my daughter in tears in the back of the car.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,204

    Twitter.

    This is the first Supreme Court vacancy under a Democratic president and a Republican Senate since 1888.

    Someone just chucked a match onto the POTUS race.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    This could change everything.

    Leeds United have started legal action against the Football League in an attempt to dismantle the collective selling of TV rights and win the right to sell their own games, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.


    http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/football/article-3445896/Massimo-Cellino-new-fury-Leeds-United-owner-launches-bid-break-clubs-100m-television-deal.html

    Aren't Virgin pursing some legal avenues as well?
    Kinda. They want to make all 380 Premier League matches live on TV in England
    TBH, even with the mega deal the premier league got, I can see them being interested in this. With internet and how cheap it is to have a satellite channel, a system like they have in the NFL could easily work in the UK and be very very lucrative.
    I think we'll see club season tickets. Something like £100 per season to watch all your team's matches.
    How much not to watch them? That was torture today.
    It was rather considerate of Man U to put such space between us and 5th place. Champions League now nailed on!
    We have no chance of making the top 4 now which will make the job of the next manager attracting the right quality of players much harder. LVG has been a bit of a disaster I'm afraid although in fairness to him the quality of the squad he inherited left much to be desired.

    Anyway Leicester should have their minds on much higher things than the top 4. Carpe diem.
    Tommorow is a free hit. Whatever happens we stay top. It looks like Gabriel is not fit (thigh injury in training) so the 5.0 avalible on a Leicester win looks value to me. The match will be much tighter than that.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865

    Scott_P said:

    the identities and backgrounds of those controlling Momentum can be revealed for the first time.

    The newly appointed national leaders of the group include people who have defended violence, described the 2011 riots as an “uprising against the police”, banned participation in Remembrance Day, stood for election against the Labour Party, committed voter fraud, or were suspended from Labour for supporting a second convicted election fraudster.

    Five of the eight members of Momentum’s new national “steering committee”, announced last week, have endorsed or taken part in revolutionary or anti-democratic activity, or excused violence, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/12156177/momentum-activists-jeremy-corbyn-labour-purge.html
    Sound like a charming lot...and we are supposed to be more concerned about Osborne getting a £1200 dividend?

    Election was iffy as well.. Or result known before votes cast.

    http://order-order.com/2016/02/08/leak-lansman-mocks-clueless-unite-chief/
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited February 2016
    Just topped up on POTUS Cruz before tonight's debate @ ~21/1.

    Looks to me like the conversation has just moved onto his turf.

    Current book;

    GOP;

    Cruz +£4230
    Everyone else +-£/0

    POTUS;

    Clinton -£120
    Sanders -£300
    Rubio +£1870
    Donald +£9150
    Cruz +£11k
    Romney +£50k
    Ryan +£250k
    Everyone else >+£2000
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,346

    Speedy said:

    First reaction from the candidates:

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 7m7 minutes ago
    The totally unexpected loss of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is a massive setback for the Conservative movement and our COUNTRY!

    Ted Cruz ‏@tedcruz 15m15 minutes ago
    Justice Scalia was an American hero. We owe it to him, & the Nation, for the Senate to ensure that the next President names his replacement.

    I'm out till the debate, where as always will try to live comment on it on PB.

    Cruz emphasises that the *next* president appoint his successor. Obama has a year or so left in office which is more than enough time in normal circumstances.

    (Can he appoint himself? Obama was a constitutional law professor in his former life.)
    Separation of powers. He can't be concurrently POTUS and Chief Justice.

    Taft is the only POTUS who became Supreme Court Justice (after a gap of eight years)
    Is that codified?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,138

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    This could change everything.

    Leeds United have started legal action against the Football League in an attempt to dismantle the collective selling of TV rights and win the right to sell their own games, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.


    http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/football/article-3445896/Massimo-Cellino-new-fury-Leeds-United-owner-launches-bid-break-clubs-100m-television-deal.html

    Aren't Virgin pursing some legal avenues as well?
    Kinda. They want to make all 380 Premier League matches live on TV in England
    TBH, even with the mega deal the premier league got, I can see them being interested in this. With internet and how cheap it is to have a satellite channel, a system like they have in the NFL could easily work in the UK and be very very lucrative.
    I think we'll see club season tickets. Something like £100 per season to watch all your team's matches.
    How much not to watch them? That was torture today.
    It was rather considerate of Man U to put such space between us and 5th place. Champions League now nailed on!
    We have no chance of making the top 4 now which will make the job of the next manager attracting the right quality of players much harder. LVG has been a bit of a disaster I'm afraid although in fairness to him the quality of the squad he inherited left much to be desired.

    Anyway Leicester should have their minds on much higher things than the top 4. Carpe diem.
    LVG's problem is that apart from Martial none of the £250 million spent has turned up even one World class player. He is hopeless and needs to go, the sooner the better. It reminds me of coming home from matches in the 1980's with my daughter in tears in the back of the car.
    It is depressing. Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin both look a total waste of money and Depay (who in fairness added marginally more purpose to the general meandering forward when he came on today) is struggling to get in the team. I am really not sure about Darmian either. But it is Di Maria which still sticks in the craw. It made Fernando Torres look like a shrewd investment for Chelsea.
  • RobD said:

    Speedy said:

    First reaction from the candidates:

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 7m7 minutes ago
    The totally unexpected loss of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is a massive setback for the Conservative movement and our COUNTRY!

    Ted Cruz ‏@tedcruz 15m15 minutes ago
    Justice Scalia was an American hero. We owe it to him, & the Nation, for the Senate to ensure that the next President names his replacement.

    I'm out till the debate, where as always will try to live comment on it on PB.

    Cruz emphasises that the *next* president appoint his successor. Obama has a year or so left in office which is more than enough time in normal circumstances.

    (Can he appoint himself? Obama was a constitutional law professor in his former life.)
    Separation of powers. He can't be concurrently POTUS and Chief Justice.

    Taft is the only POTUS who became Supreme Court Justice (after a gap of eight years)
    Is that codified?
    Yup. You can only work for one branch of government at any one time.
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