O/T, but I want to sing the praises of a much maligned organisation - The Railways
Just back from a three day trip which due to eyesight was done by train, mostly by Virgin Trains , not only on the help - don't get that at Heathrow), was magnificent.
The railways in the UK get a lot of stick, and I have in the past been a wielder of that stick. Commuter lines into London are still sub-par, I'll accept but, by Jove, inter-city travel has come a very long way.
P.S. St Pancras International is a spiffing place and the cafe-bar where the dreadlocks bloke parked me for a while was excellent (trappist beer and a comfortable club chair).
St Pancras is fab. I've spent far too much time in Searcys
About a month ago, I actually managed to reach Manchester Piccadilly, finally (I reached Alderley Edge four years ago), albeit via Congleton and Macclesfield.
Almost reached your destination? TBF that sounds like a FGW service
I still have to do Alderley Edge to Cheadle Hulme. Oh and then there's the Manchester Airport branch too (via Gatley).
About a dozen years ago I went from Pannal to Manchester Airport and after my trip the reverse.
We stopped at a station in Bradford which seems to be a dead end - you go in forwards then back out.
Are you sure it wasn't Wakefield?
No - Bradford Interchange.
Like Wakefield, Bradford has two stations (Forster Square and Interchange), but whereas Wakefield's are both through lines, Bradford's are both dead ends. However, while all services to Forster Sq terminate there, the Interchange is on the Calder Valley line with trains from Lancashire through to Leeds and beyond (and vice versa), which, as you say, means reversing the direction of the train's travel as you come in and out.
I was on the 'Trans Pennine Express' - a misnomer if ever there was one, up there with the Long Island Expressway.
It just seemed odd to pull into a station, and then go out the same way you came in.
Also happens at:
Eastbourne (Ashford to Brighton, London to Hastings) Derby (Birmingham to Nottingham) Grantham (Nottingham to Skegness) Manchester Airport (Crewe to Manchester) Sheffield (Norwich to Liverpool) Worcester Shrub Hill (Birmingham to Hereford)
Are they actually moderates that they're bombing, or is it the Cameron definition of "moderates" which includes the al-Nusra Front and the like? (Genuine question)
I don't think Russia are very picky. If you aren't with Assad, you are a terrorist...
If I you started blowing people up in the interests of bringing down the state using a suitcase of foreign money, what would you expect to be called? But by all means highlight any moderate group in Syria, and we can all have a look at their activities and decide if we agree.
It's standard spin. When your side wins, they win. When they other side wins, it's a humanitarian disaster, it's all civilians, it's indiscriminate slaughter, its people starving under seige, etc.
Mr. Brooke, such domestic information is limited, as this happened about twenty-four centuries ago. However, he appears to have been pretty sound on that front.
O/T, but I want to sing the praises of a much maligned organisation - The Railways
Just back from a three day trip which due to eyesight was done by train, mostly by Virgin Trains , not only on the help - don't get that at Heathrow), was magnificent.
The railways in the UK get a lot of stick, and I have in the past been a wielder of that stick. Commuter lines into London are still sub-par, I'll accept but, by Jove, inter-city travel has come a very long way.
P.S. St Pancras International is a spiffing place and the cafe-bar where the dreadlocks bloke parked me for a while was excellent (trappist beer and a comfortable club chair).
St Pancras is fab. I've spent far too much time in Searcys
About a month ago, I actually managed to reach Manchester Piccadilly, finally (I reached Alderley Edge four years ago), albeit via Congleton and Macclesfield.
Almost reached your destination? TBF that sounds like a FGW service
I still have to do Alderley Edge to Cheadle Hulme. Oh and then there's the Manchester Airport branch too (via Gatley).
About a dozen years ago I went from Pannal to Manchester Airport and after my trip the reverse.
We stopped at a station in Bradford which seems to be a dead end - you go in forwards then back out.
Are you sure it wasn't Wakefield?
No - Bradford Interchange.
Like Wakefield, Bradford has two stations (Forster Square and Interchange), but whereas Wakefield's are both through lines, Bradford's are both dead ends. However, while all services to Forster Sq terminate there, the Interchange is on the Calder Valley line with trains from Lancashire through to Leeds and beyond (and vice versa), which, as you say, means reversing the direction of the train's travel as you come in and out.
I was on the 'Trans Pennine Express' - a misnomer if ever there was one, up there with the Long Island Expressway.
It just seemed odd to pull into a station, and then go out the same way you came in.
Also happens at:
Eastbourne (Ashford to Brighton, London to Hastings) Derby (Birmingham to Nottingham) Grantham (Nottingham to Skegness) Manchester Airport (Crewe to Manchester) Sheffield (Norwich to Liverpool) Worcester Shrub Hill (Birmingham to Hereford)
and perhaps quite a few other locations
I get it that Ringway is a terminus. But you don't expect a downtown station in a big city to be like that.
The reason why Leave want to go is because it's extremely hard to get unanimous agreement with 27 other parties.
I thought the complaint was that unanimous agreement wasn't necessary with QMV, so we don't have a veto.
In any case, I was referring to the tiresome conspiracy theories. What we are seeing with the negotiations is not a stitch-up, or a sham, or EU countries reneging on a deal, it's the inevitable result of having to negotiate with 27 other countries. I expect it will go to an all-night session, as always happens (not only in EU summits, of course).
It doesn't seem to make any difference. Up to May 2014 - the last time we have any data for - the UK had never successfully opposed a QMV vote in the Council of Ministers. 55 times we opposed a measure and 55 times we lost.
This is tautological. Under QMV, the (suitably qualified) majority wins, yes? So stating that the UK lost when it was in a QM minority is non-informative: it's just restating the definition of QMV. Country X loses when it's in a QM minority and wins when it's in a QM majority, and that is true for all values of X.
If you're interested in things like measuring the level of influence of the UK in the EU, then Simon Hix is usually the go-to chap. He's in the LSE and does all the big analysis sums. He did a series of articles on UK-EU influence[1]
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
I still have to do Alderley Edge to Cheadle Hulme. Oh and then there's the Manchester Airport branch too (via Gatley).
About a dozen years ago I went from Pannal to Manchester Airport and after my trip the reverse.
We stopped at a station in Bradford which seems to be a dead end - you go in forwards then back out.
Are you sure it wasn't Wakefield?
No - Bradford Interchange.
Like Wakefield, Bradford has two stations (Forster Square and Interchange), but whereas Wakefield's are both through lines, Bradford's are both dead ends. However, while all services to Forster Sq terminate there, the Interchange is on the Calder Valley line with trains from Lancashire through to Leeds and beyond (and vice versa), which, as you say, means reversing the direction of the train's travel as you come in and out.
Taking a quick look at a map - is there any mileage in connecting the 2 and allowing through trains in both directions? Would enable things like Halifax - Bradford - Shipley - Leeds or Halifax - Keighley via Bradford. Certainly doens't look obviously problematic on a map (massive car park might need to be removed but...)
This is something that's been talked about in Bradford for decades but won't happen, partly because of the practical difficulties and partly because the routes it'd open up wouldn't justify the cost.
To connect the two lines would mean either rebuilding the lines from some distance out of Forster Sq or demolishing large parts of central Bradford (some of which have only just been built). Also problematic is that the Interchange is a good deal higher than Forster Sq so the line would need raising even where it currently is - which would then have a knock-on effect on existing bridges over the line.
All of which would be to link up parts of W Yorks that people don't travel between all that much. Now, you might argue that they *would* travel more if there was the service to do it, and that's perhaps true, but the numbers would be unlikely to justify a cost I last saw as top-side of £100m and probably - given the new shopping centre in Bradford - a good deal more now. If that money is going spare, I'd rather it was spent on lengthening the platforms on the commuter lines to take six-coach trains so that when the Pacer sets are finally replaced, the operator can order 3-coach sets and double them up in the mornings.
If you're interested in things like measuring the level of influence of the UK in the EU, then Simon Hix is usually the go-to chap. He's in the LSE and does all the big analysis sums. He did a series of articles on UK-EU influence
Interesting, thanks. There's a link in that article to one specifically on voting in the EU Council:
It supports the view that (since 2009) we have been outvoted more often than other countries in the Council, though how you interpret that data is another matter. As the author says:
- The council overwhelmingly decides by consensus, which means the UK is on the winning majority side almost 87% of the time.
- The UK government might be more willing than other governments to publicly register its opposition to EU decisions.
- The data does not tell us what went on behind the scenes on each of these issues, and hence how much the UK disagreed with the majority position when it recorded its opposition – perhaps the UK was on the winning side on all the key issues it really cared about in this period.
Chris Elmore (VoG Cllr) Christine Gwyther (former Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire AM) Geraint Hopkins (Rhondda Cllr) Alex Owen (Bridgend Cllr, Penprysg ward, it's within the constituency boundaries)
The reason why Leave want to go is because it's extremely hard to get unanimous agreement with 27 other parties.
I thought the complaint was that unanimous agreement wasn't necessary with QMV, so we don't have a veto.
In any case, I was referring to the tiresome conspiracy theories. What we are seeing with the negotiations is not a stitch-up, or a sham, or EU countries reneging on a deal, it's the inevitable result of having to negotiate with 27 other countries. I expect it will go to an all-night session, as always happens (not only in EU summits, of course).
It doesn't seem to make any difference. Up to May 2014 - the last time we have any data for - the UK had never successfully opposed a QMV vote in the Council of Ministers. 55 times we opposed a measure and 55 times we lost.
This is tautological. Under QMV, the (suitably qualified) majority wins, yes? So stating that the UK lost when it was in a QM minority is non-informative: it's just restating the definition of QMV. Country X loses when it's in a QM minority and wins when it's in a QM majority, and that is true for all values of X.
If you're interested in things like measuring the level of influence of the UK in the EU, then Simon Hix is usually the go-to chap. He's in the LSE and does all the big analysis sums. He did a series of articles on UK-EU influence[1]
It is not a tautology. I didn't say they lost when they were in a minority. I said they lost every time they opposed a measure. It is entirely possible to oppose a measure and to create a majority which supports you. This is something the UK have never managed to do.
I am very familiar with the work of Simon Hix. In fact I have been reading his blog on this very subject this afternoon. It goes some way to answering Richard N's question concerning Germany. The UK has lost 12.3% of the total votes in the last 6 years - every one they have opposed. Germany is the next highest loser having lost 5.4% of the votes. There is no data on how many measures they opposed but won with allies.
Interestingly the votes the UK lost were generally concerning the Budget, Foreign and security policy, Agriculture, Justice and Home affairs and Social policy - all areas which I would contend are not much to do with the single market and so should be areas where we should be making our own decisions, not having them imposed on us.
Bugger other countries. As a Brit you should be concerned, if not furious, that in all the times your country attempted to except its influence, it failed, all of them, and then REMAIN have the cheek and effrontery to come here and talk about our influence in the EU.
Err, as a sane Brit, I realise that the figures Richard T quoted do not show that every time my country attempted to exercise its influence, it failed.
Really, there are plenty of things to complain about regarding the EU, without undermining your argument with silliness.
No, what they show is that every time we got to the point where we fundamentally opposed a measure we lost.
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
No, what they show is that every time we got to the point where we fundamentally opposed a measure we lost.
Interesting that Germany (with Austria) was the next most likely to lose a vote. I don't think anyone claims that Germany doesn't have much influence on the EU!
Imagine how we would be treated the day after we voted to stay in..
I cannot see the following happening but interesting they are even considering it:
Already, ministers in other EU governments are planning to call in some favours. One has already made clear to The Spectator that once this referendum is done, Britain will be expected to take in our ‘share’ of the hundreds of thousands of refugees waiting to be settled in Europe.
No, what they show is that every time we got to the point where we fundamentally opposed a measure we lost.
Interesting that Germany (with Austria) was the next most likely to lose a vote. I don't think anyone claims that Germany doesn't have much influence on the EU!
As someone already said, you really are scraping the barrel here Richard. Accept it, according to the figures we do worse than any other country by a very long way when it comes to QMV. And if you look at the data it is all in areas where we really shouldn't even have the EU interfering (EU budget excepted which of course wouldn't be an issue if we weren't in)
As someone already said, you really are scraping the barrel here Richard. Accept it, according to the figures we do worse than any other country by a very long way when it comes to QMV. And if you look at the data it is all in areas where we really shouldn't even have the EU interfering (EU budget excepted which of course wouldn't be an issue if we weren't in)
I do accept that (both parts of what you say). When did I ever say otherwise?
Imagine how we would be treated the day after we voted to stay in..
Badly, is the answer. You can blame PB's beloved Conservative Party for that greatest ever strategic cock-up on British EU policy.
See it from the Continental perspective and the reasonable belief is that after giving so much time and space for Cameron to hold a referendum, in which his desired outcome equals essentially no change to the status quo, payback time is to be expected.
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Come on, be reasonable, it'll only have been 10 years, how much can you be expected to get done in 10 years?
This is tautological. Under QMV, the (suitably qualified) majority wins, yes? So stating that the UK lost when it was in a QM minority is non-informative: it's just restating the definition of QMV. Country X loses when it's in a QM minority and wins when it's in a QM majority, and that is true for all values of X.
If you're interested in things like measuring the level of influence of the UK in the EU, then Simon Hix is usually the go-to chap. He's in the LSE and does all the big analysis sums. He did a series of articles on UK-EU influence[1]
It is not a tautology. I didn't say they lost when they were in a minority. I said they lost every time they opposed a measure. It is entirely possible to oppose a measure and to create a majority which supports you. This is something the UK have never managed to do.
I am very familiar with the work of Simon Hix. In fact I have been reading his blog on this very subject this afternoon. It goes some way to answering Richard N's question concerning Germany. The UK has lost 12.3% of the total votes in the last 6 years - every one they have opposed. Germany is the next highest loser having lost 5.4% of the votes. There is no data on how many measures they opposed but won with allies.
Interestingly the votes the UK lost were generally concerning the Budget, Foreign and security policy, Agriculture, Justice and Home affairs and Social policy - all areas which I would contend are not much to do with the single market and so should be areas where we should be making our own decisions, not having them imposed on us.
Ah, I see, thank you.
So: if we use "percentage of votes lost in last 6 years" as the statistic to measure influence, then UK is first at 12.3%, Germany is second at 5.4%, and so on Conversely, if we use "number of votes opposed by X and not carried" then UK is at 55: I assume (but do not know) that this is a high figure compared to other countries?
No, what they show is that every time we got to the point where we fundamentally opposed a measure we lost.
Interesting that Germany (with Austria) was the next most likely to lose a vote. I don't think anyone claims that Germany doesn't have much influence on the EU!
As someone already said, you really are scraping the barrel here Richard. Accept it, according to the figures we do worse than any other country by a very long way when it comes to QMV. And if you look at the data it is all in areas where we really shouldn't even have the EU interfering (EU budget excepted which of course wouldn't be an issue if we weren't in)
Accepting figures is not something Richard is able to do easily especially if it risks going against the story being pushed by CCHQ. I think he still refuses to accept Osborne paid that £1.7bn bill from the EU in full.
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
ROFL this is getting as bad as all the labourites who had to endlessly preach 17 years of Tory misrule as their excuse.
Face up to it chaps the man aint up to the day job.
He's in the job for as long as it took to fight World War 2 and still can't deliver a win.
Jeb Bush and Christie team up to attack Rubio in New Hampshire
'Frustrated and flailing as his candidacy threatens to slip away, Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey is embarking on a scalding effort over the next week to discredit Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, the man he blames for undermining his campaign and whose ascendancy he deeply resents. And Mr. Christie has a secret ally: Jeb Bush… Members of the Bush and Christie campaigns have communicated about their mutual desire to halt Mr. Rubio’s rise in the polls, according to Republican operatives familiar with the conversations. While emails, texts and phone calls between operatives in rival campaigns are not uncommon in the tight-knit world of political strategists, the contact between senior aides in the two campaigns has drifted toward musings about what can be done to stop or at least slow Mr. Rubio, the operatives said. In a sign of a budding alliance, the aides have, for example, exchanged news articles that raise potential areas of vulnerability for Mr. Rubio.' http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/chris-christie-and-jeb-bush-team-up-against-boy-in-the-bubble-marco-rubio.html?ref=politics&_r=1
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Come on, be reasonable, it'll only have been 10 years, how much can you be expected to get done in 10 years?
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
ROFL this is getting as bad as all the labourites who had to endlessly preach 17 years of Tory misrule as their excuse.
Face up to it chaps the man aint up to the day job.
He's in the job for as long as it took to fight World War 2 and still can't deliver a win.
Of course it is...it's all bollox. He isn't
Meanwhile I have found another superb site for political discussion and discourse
This is tautological. Under QMV, the (suitably qualified) majority wins, yes? So stating that the UK lost when it was in a QM minority is non-informative: it's just restating the definition of QMV. Country X loses when it's in a QM minority and wins when it's in a QM majority, and that is true for all values of X.
If you're interested in things like measuring the level of influence of the UK in the EU, then Simon Hix is usually the go-to chap. He's in the LSE and does all the big analysis sums. He did a series of articles on UK-EU influence[1]
It is not a tautology. I didn't say they lost when they were in a minority. I said they lost every time they opposed a measure. It is entirely possible to oppose a measure and to create a majority which supports you. This is something the UK have never managed to do.
I am very familiar with the work of Simon Hix. In fact I have been reading his blog on this very subject this afternoon. It goes some way to answering Richard N's question concerning Germany. The UK has lost 12.3% of the total votes in the last 6 years - every one they have opposed. Germany is the next highest loser having lost 5.4% of the votes. There is no data on how many measures they opposed but won with allies.
Interestingly the votes the UK lost were generally concerning the Budget, Foreign and security policy, Agriculture, Justice and Home affairs and Social policy - all areas which I would contend are not much to do with the single market and so should be areas where we should be making our own decisions, not having them imposed on us.
Ah, I see, thank you.
So: if we use "percentage of votes lost in last 6 years" as the statistic to measure influence, then UK is first at 12.3%, Germany is second at 5.4%, and so on Conversely, if we use "number of votes opposed by X and not carried" then UK is at 55: I assume (but do not know) that this is a high figure compared to other countries?
Yep. That is it. And I agree I have no idea how that compares to other countries (though of course it must be more than any other country since even if they lost every one they opposed it would still be less than half the absolute number we lost).
But the real point here is that however many votes other countries lost, almost all of these issues we lost votes on were matters which we should not even have been allowing others to have a say over.
Jeb Bush and Christie team up to attack Rubio in New Hampshire
No doubt Trump and Cruz will be joining in as well.
When they take a break from attacking each other maybe! However it does show that the GOP establishment is divided and not yet willing to agree on a unity candidate and that will only help Trump next Tuesday
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Come on, be reasonable, it'll only have been 10 years, how much can you be expected to get done in 10 years?
Not a lot clearly.
Apples and pears
It took Labour at least 13 years to trash the joint.
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Come on, be reasonable, it'll only have been 10 years, how much can you be expected to get done in 10 years?
Not a lot clearly.
Apples and pears
It took Labour at least 13 years to trash the joint.
No more labour boom and bust.
This time Geoirge is skipping out the boom and just hanging around for the bust.
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
ROFL this is getting as bad as all the labourites who had to endlessly preach 17 years of Tory misrule as their excuse.
Face up to it chaps the man aint up to the day job.
He's in the job for as long as it took to fight World War 2 and still can't deliver a win.
I find your lack in Ozzymandias, King of Kings, truly disturbing.
In less than six years he's halved the deficit, had record breaking employment, just look at those PMIs*, he's already destroyed the Lib Dems, and riven Labour mad to the point where they elect Jeremy Corbyn as leader.
If George could walk on water, you'd be criticising him for not being able to swim.
Be honest, what did the Osbornes do to the Brookes in Northern Ireland. Did they play a flute outside your bog** or something.
*What is a PMI? Is it something a woman gets, I know over 50 is good.
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
It's similar to asking Hillary Clinton supporters about her achievements. The response is much the same.
Winning the nomination of a major party in an open year without serious opposition is an extraordinary political achievement.
Oh, you mean something she's done for the good of the country or beyond?
After the Obama years, the Democratic Party is hard left and frankly bereft of talent. If Hillary is the best they've got then the party is in serious trouble. Her only potential competition is the James Comey Primary.
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
ROFL this is getting as bad as all the labourites who had to endlessly preach 17 years of Tory misrule as their excuse.
Face up to it chaps the man aint up to the day job.
He's in the job for as long as it took to fight World War 2 and still can't deliver a win.
I find your lack in Ozzymandias, King of Kings, truly disturbing.
In less than six years he's halved the deficit, had record breaking employment, just look at those PMIs*, he's already destroyed the Lib Dems, and riven Labour mad to the point where they elect Jeremy Corbyn as leader.
If George could walk on water, you'd be criticising him for not being able to swim.
Be honest, what did the Osbornes do to the Brookes in Northern Ireland. Did they play a flute outside your bog** or something.
*What is a PMI? Is it something a woman gets, I know over 50 is good.
**That isn't racist stereotyping about the Irish.
Cant you just find a use for him outside the Treasury - door stop, traffic cone that kind of thing. Just park him somewhere away from the economy.
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
ROFL this is getting as bad as all the labourites who had to endlessly preach 17 years of Tory misrule as their excuse.
Face up to it chaps the man aint up to the day job.
He's in the job for as long as it took to fight World War 2 and still can't deliver a win.
I find your lack in Ozzymandias, King of Kings, truly disturbing.
In less than six years he's halved the deficit, had record breaking employment, just look at those PMIs*, he's already destroyed the Lib Dems, and riven Labour mad to the point where they elect Jeremy Corbyn as leader.
If George could walk on water, you'd be criticising him for not being able to swim.
Be honest, what did the Osbornes do to the Brookes in Northern Ireland. Did they play a flute outside your bog** or something.
*What is a PMI? Is it something a woman gets, I know over 50 is good.
**That isn't racist stereotyping about the Irish.
Cant you just find a use for him outside the Treasury - door stop, traffic cone that kind of thing. Just park him somewhere away from the economy.
Or lend him to France.;
That would raise the productivity of both countries.
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
ROFL this is getting as bad as all the labourites who had to endlessly preach 17 years of Tory misrule as their excuse.
Face up to it chaps the man aint up to the day job.
He's in the job for as long as it took to fight World War 2 and still can't deliver a win.
I find your lack in Ozzymandias, King of Kings, truly disturbing.
In less than six years he's halved the deficit, had record breaking employment, just look at those PMIs*, he's already destroyed the Lib Dems, and riven Labour mad to the point where they elect Jeremy Corbyn as leader.
If George could walk on water, you'd be criticising him for not being able to swim.
Be honest, what did the Osbornes do to the Brookes in Northern Ireland. Did they play a flute outside your bog** or something.
*What is a PMI? Is it something a woman gets, I know over 50 is good.
**That isn't racist stereotyping about the Irish.
Cant you just find a use for him outside the Treasury - door stop, traffic cone that kind of thing. Just park him somewhere away from the economy.
Or lend him to France.;
This'll be the reaction in the UK if we sent him to France
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
ROFL this is getting as bad as all the labourites who had to endlessly preach 17 years of Tory misrule as their excuse.
Face up to it chaps the man aint up to the day job.
He's in the job for as long as it took to fight World War 2 and still can't deliver a win.
I find your lack in Ozzymandias, King of Kings, truly disturbing.
In less than six years he's halved the deficit, had record breaking employment, just look at those PMIs*, he's already destroyed the Lib Dems, and riven Labour mad to the point where they elect Jeremy Corbyn as leader.
If George could walk on water, you'd be criticising him for not being able to swim.
Be honest, what did the Osbornes do to the Brookes in Northern Ireland. Did they play a flute outside your bog** or something.
*What is a PMI? Is it something a woman gets, I know over 50 is good.
**That isn't racist stereotyping about the Irish.
Cant you just find a use for him outside the Treasury - door stop, traffic cone that kind of thing. Just park him somewhere away from the economy.
Or lend him to France.;
That would raise the productivity of both countries.
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
ROFL this is getting as bad as all the labourites who had to endlessly preach 17 years of Tory misrule as their excuse.
Face up to it chaps the man aint up to the day job.
He's in the job for as long as it took to fight World War 2 and still can't deliver a win.
I find your lack in Ozzymandias, King of Kings, truly disturbing.
In less than six years he's halved the deficit, had record breaking employment, just look at those PMIs*, he's already destroyed the Lib Dems, and riven Labour mad to the point where they elect Jeremy Corbyn as leader.
If George could walk on water, you'd be criticising him for not being able to swim.
Be honest, what did the Osbornes do to the Brookes in Northern Ireland. Did they play a flute outside your bog** or something.
*What is a PMI? Is it something a woman gets, I know over 50 is good.
**That isn't racist stereotyping about the Irish.
Cant you just find a use for him outside the Treasury - door stop, traffic cone that kind of thing. Just park him somewhere away from the economy.
Or lend him to France.;
This'll be the reaction in the UK if we sent him to France
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
ROFL this is getting as bad as all the labourites who had to endlessly preach 17 years of Tory misrule as their excuse.
Face up to it chaps the man aint up to the day job.
He's in the job for as long as it took to fight World War 2 and still can't deliver a win.
I find your lack in Ozzymandias, King of Kings, truly disturbing.
In less than six years he's halved the deficit, had record breaking employment, just look at those PMIs*, he's already destroyed the Lib Dems, and riven Labour mad to the point where they elect Jeremy Corbyn as leader.
If George could walk on water, you'd be criticising him for not being able to swim.
Be honest, what did the Osbornes do to the Brookes in Northern Ireland. Did they play a flute outside your bog** or something.
*What is a PMI? Is it something a woman gets, I know over 50 is good.
**That isn't racist stereotyping about the Irish.
Cant you just find a use for him outside the Treasury - door stop, traffic cone that kind of thing. Just park him somewhere away from the economy.
Or lend him to France.;
This'll be the reaction in the UK if we sent him to France
youtu.be/ccsNr9UJeVY
A fitting reaction to the loss of the country's most beloved heir-to-a-baronetcy.
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
ROFL this is getting as bad as all the labourites who had to endlessly preach 17 years of Tory misrule as their excuse.
Face up to it chaps the man aint up to the day job.
He's in the job for as long as it took to fight World War 2 and still can't deliver a win.
I find your lack in Ozzymandias, King of Kings, truly disturbing.
In less than six years he's halved the deficit, had record breaking employment, just look at those PMIs*, he's already destroyed the Lib Dems, and riven Labour mad to the point where they elect Jeremy Corbyn as leader.
If George could walk on water, you'd be criticising him for not being able to swim.
Be honest, what did the Osbornes do to the Brookes in Northern Ireland. Did they play a flute outside your bog** or something.
*What is a PMI? Is it something a woman gets, I know over 50 is good.
**That isn't racist stereotyping about the Irish.
Cant you just find a use for him outside the Treasury - door stop, traffic cone that kind of thing. Just park him somewhere away from the economy.
Or lend him to France.;
This'll be the reaction in the UK if we sent him to France
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Come on, be reasonable, it'll only have been 10 years, how much can you be expected to get done in 10 years?
Not a lot clearly.
Apples and pears
It took Labour at least 13 years to trash the joint.
No more labour boom and bust.
This time Geoirge is skipping out the boom and just hanging around for the bust.
Yup !
Just Like the master clunking fist except this time with oil revenues as they are ......it's just boom and combust
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
ROFL this is getting as bad as all the labourites who had to endlessly preach 17 years of Tory misrule as their excuse.
Face up to it chaps the man aint up to the day job.
He's in the job for as long as it took to fight World War 2 and still can't deliver a win.
I find your lack in Ozzymandias, King of Kings, truly disturbing.
In less than six years he's halved the deficit, had record breaking employment, just look at those PMIs*, he's already destroyed the Lib Dems, and riven Labour mad to the point where they elect Jeremy Corbyn as leader.
If George could walk on water, you'd be criticising him for not being able to swim.
Be honest, what did the Osbornes do to the Brookes in Northern Ireland. Did they play a flute outside your bog** or something.
*What is a PMI? Is it something a woman gets, I know over 50 is good.
**That isn't racist stereotyping about the Irish.
Cant you just find a use for him outside the Treasury - door stop, traffic cone that kind of thing. Just park him somewhere away from the economy.
Or lend him to France.;
This'll be the reaction in the UK if we sent him to France
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
ROFL this is getting as bad as all the labourites who had to endlessly preach 17 years of Tory misrule as their excuse.
Face up to it chaps the man aint up to the day job.
He's in the job for as long as it took to fight World War 2 and still can't deliver a win.
I find your lack in Ozzymandias, King of Kings, truly disturbing.
In less than six years he's halved the deficit, had record breaking employment, just look at those PMIs*, he's already destroyed the Lib Dems, and riven Labour mad to the point where they elect Jeremy Corbyn as leader.
If George could walk on water, you'd be criticising him for not being able to swim.
Be honest, what did the Osbornes do to the Brookes in Northern Ireland. Did they play a flute outside your bog** or something.
*What is a PMI? Is it something a woman gets, I know over 50 is good.
**That isn't racist stereotyping about the Irish.
Cant you just find a use for him outside the Treasury - door stop, traffic cone that kind of thing. Just park him somewhere away from the economy.
Or lend him to France.;
This'll be the reaction in the UK if we sent him to France
It's similar to asking Hillary Clinton supporters about her achievements. The response is much the same.
Winning the nomination of a major party in an open year without serious opposition is an extraordinary political achievement.
Oh, you mean something she's done for the good of the country or beyond?
After the Obama years, the Democratic Party is hard left and frankly bereft of talent. If Hillary is the best they've got then the party is in serious trouble. Her only potential competition is the James Comey Primary.
If Hillary has any sense she will pick a charismatic young Hispanic like Julian Castro, the US Housing Secretary, as her VP if she does win the nomination and beat Sanders. The fact the present GOP national poll leader is a billionaire who has not held one elected office as a Republican, not even dogcatcher, suggests the GOP field is not exactly filled with acres of talent either!
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
ROFL this is getting as bad as all the labourites who had to endlessly preach 17 years of Tory misrule as their excuse.
Face up to it chaps the man aint up to the day job.
He's in the job for as long as it took to fight World War 2 and still can't deliver a win.
I find your lack in Ozzymandias, King of Kings, truly disturbing.
In less than six years he's halved the deficit, had record breaking employment, just look at those PMIs*, he's already destroyed the Lib Dems, and riven Labour mad to the point where they elect Jeremy Corbyn as leader.
If George could walk on water, you'd be criticising him for not being able to swim.
Be honest, what did the Osbornes do to
Cant you just find a use for him outside the Treasury - door stop, traffic cone that kind of thing. Just park him somewhere away from the economy.
Or lend him to France.;
This'll be the reaction in the UK if we sent him to France
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
I expect at the moment a much heavier Leave defeat.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
ROFL this is getting as bad as all the labourites who had to endlessly preach 17 years of Tory misrule as their excuse.
Face up to it chaps the man aint up to the day job.
He's in the job for as long as it took to fight World War 2 and still can't deliver a win.
I find your lack in Ozzymandias, King of Kings, truly disturbing.
In less than six years he's halved the deficit, had record breaking employment, just look at those PMIs*, he's already destroyed the Lib Dems, and riven Labour mad to the point where they elect Jeremy Corbyn as leader.
If George could walk on water, you'd be criticising him for not being able to swim.
Be honest, what did the Osbornes do to
Cant you just find a use for him outside the Treasury - door stop, traffic cone that kind of thing. Just park him somewhere away from the economy.
Or lend him to France.;
This'll be the reaction in the UK if we sent him to France
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
All of us are in favour of staying in Europe, aren't we?
The EU is a bit like a f**king awful current account where the bank constantly overcharges you, pays no interest, and screws you over time after time - and laughs at you: everyone hates it, moans about it, and wants to switch to another much better nicer bank, but no-one can't be arsed* with the hassle and they're all a bit scared about the possible downsides of switching.
(*I am currently on hold with First Direct as I'm switching my bank account to them from Santander and clocking a £150 bonus in the process)
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
No Tory Government has passed on a Budget Surplus to a Labour Government.
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
I expect at the moment a much heavier Leave defeat.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
No, the higher older turnout, even with graduates for Remain and the anti establishment mood will, as in Scotland see Leave get 45%+ and the renegotiations are not enough to change that. While I expect Remain to win overall across the UK I expect Leave to win England outside of London
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
ROFL this is getting as bad as all the labourites who had to endlessly preach 17 years of Tory misrule as their excuse.
Face up to it chaps the man aint up to the day job.
He's in the job for as long as it took to fight World War 2 and still can't deliver a win.
I find your lack in Ozzymandias, King of Kings, truly disturbing.
In less than six years he's halved the deficit, had record breaking employment, just look at those PMIs*, he's already destroyed the Lib Dems, and riven Labour mad to the point where they elect Jeremy Corbyn as leader.
If George could walk on water, you'd be criticising him for not being able to swim.
Be honest, what did the Osbornes do to
Cant you just find a use for him outside the Treasury - door stop, traffic cone that kind of thing. Just park him somewhere away from the economy.
Or lend him to France.;
This'll be the reaction in the UK if we sent him to France
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
I expect at the moment a much heavier Leave defeat.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
I expect at the moment a much heavier Leave defeat.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
No, the higher older turnout, even with graduates for Remain and the anti establishment mood will, as in Scotland see Leave get 45%+ and the renegotiations are not enough to change that. While I expect Remain to win overall across the UK I expect Leave to win England outside of London
If posters like SeanT, Bob Sykes, AndyJS, TSE, DavidL and JohnO all become 100% definite for Leave, and Alastair Meeks comes off the fence for it too, then I'll believe we have a chance.
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
All of us are in favour of staying in Europe, aren't we?
The EU is a bit like a f**king awful current account where the bank constantly overcharges you, pays no interest, and screws you over time after time - and laughs at you: everyone hates it, moans about it, and wants to switch to another much better nicer bank, but no-one can't be arsed* with the hassle and they're all a bit scared about the possible downsides of switching.
(*I am currently on hold with First Direct as I'm switching my bank account to them from Santander and clocking a £150 bonus in the process)
I think there are a small number of people on this site who are in favour of a massive civil works project that would move the United Kingdom into the Chesapeake Bay
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
I expect at the moment a much heavier Leave defeat.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
Remain 60 - 40 Leave !
At the moment, I think 58-59 for Remain, but it could go as high as 62-63%.
It will be Project Fear like you've never seen before - people will vote "for" their house prices, wallets and jobs.
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
I expect at the moment a much heavier Leave defeat.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
No, the higher older turnout, even with graduates for Remain and the anti establishment mood will, as in Scotland see Leave get 45%+ and the renegotiations are not enough to change that. While I expect Remain to win overall across the UK I expect Leave to win England outside of London
If posters like SeanT, Bob Sykes, AndyJS, TSE, DavidL and JohnO all become 100% definite for Leave, and Alastair Meeks comes off the fence for it too, then I'll believe we have a chance.
Of course there is a chance, more polls have Leave ahead than had Yes ahead at this stage in Scotland and Yes got 45%!
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
I expect at the moment a much heavier Leave defeat.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
No, the higher older turnout, even with graduates for Remain and the anti establishment mood will, as in Scotland see Leave get 45%+ and the renegotiations are not enough to change that. While I expect Remain to win overall across the UK I expect Leave to win England outside of London
If posters like SeanT, Bob Sykes, AndyJS, TSE, DavidL and JohnO all become 100% definite for Leave, and Alastair Meeks comes off the fence for it too, then I'll believe we have a chance.
Of course there is a chance, more polls have Leave ahead than had Yes ahead at this stage in Scotland and Yes got 45%!
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
I expect at the moment a much heavier Leave defeat.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
Remain 60 - 40 Leave !
At the moment, I think 58-59 for Remain, but it could go as high as 62-63%.
It will be Project Fear like you've never seen before - people will vote "for" their house prices, wallets and jobs.
It would be nice if they could offer a positive vision of the UK as a member of the EU instead of having to scaremonger.
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
I expect at the moment a much heavier Leave defeat.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
No, the higher older turnout, even with graduates for Remain and the anti establishment mood will, as in Scotland see Leave get 45%+ and the renegotiations are not enough to change that. While I expect Remain to win overall across the UK I expect Leave to win England outside of London
If posters like SeanT, Bob Sykes, AndyJS, TSE, DavidL and JohnO all become 100% definite for Leave, and Alastair Meeks comes off the fence for it too, then I'll believe we have a chance.
Just to be clear (but I see your point about 'if'), I am now 50-50 and would still 'like' to vote Remain. Much will depend on what happens at the summit.
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
I expect at the moment a much heavier Leave defeat.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
No, the higher older turnout, even with graduates for Remain and the anti establishment mood will, as in Scotland see Leave get 45%+ and the renegotiations are not enough to change that. While I expect Remain to win overall across the UK I expect Leave to win England outside of London
If posters like SeanT, Bob Sykes, AndyJS, TSE, DavidL and JohnO all become 100% definite for Leave, and Alastair Meeks comes off the fence for it too, then I'll believe we have a chance.
I think SeanT is the most representative of people at large.
No, I don't mean someone earning 400k a year.
What I mean is someone who doesn't want to be in the EU. But who's (near-term) financial self interest seems to be tied up in staying. He'll bitch and moan about the EU. But his biggest asset by far is his overpriced flat in London, and he'll worry what will happen to house prices in a post EU world.
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
No Tory Government has passed on a Budget Surplus to a Labour Government.
Oh well .....at least Brown did not after all have to write a thank you letter to the tories.
Thanks for clearing that up after all these years.
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
I expect at the moment a much heavier Leave defeat.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
No, the higher older turnout, even with graduates for Remain and the anti establishment mood will, as in Scotland see Leave get 45%+ and the renegotiations are not enough to change that. While I expect Remain to win overall across the UK I expect Leave to win England outside of London
If posters like SeanT, Bob Sykes, AndyJS, TSE, DavidL and JohnO all become 100% definite for Leave, and Alastair Meeks comes off the fence for it too, then I'll believe we have a chance.
Just to be clear (but I see your point about 'if'), I am now 50-50 and would still 'like' to vote Remain. Much will depend on what happens at the summit.
so you're ready to swing both ways Mr O ?
Getting a bit racy in the prime of your life it seems.
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
I expect at the moment a much heavier Leave defeat.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
Remain 60 - 40 Leave !
At the moment, I think 58-59 for Remain, but it could go as high as 62-63%.
It will be Project Fear like you've never seen before - people will vote "for" their house prices, wallets and jobs.
You mean they will think that is what they are voting for. There is every chance they will actually be making things worse.
The Euro is almost at its 12 month high against Sterling.
The most over-crowded trade in the whole of finance was long dollar, short Euro. It's just whipsawed nearly 10%, and there are a lot of hedge funds that are going to need to write apologising letters to their investors.
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
I expect at the moment a much heavier Leave defeat.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
Remain 60 - 40 Leave !
At the moment, I think 58-59 for Remain, but it could go as high as 62-63%.
It will be Project Fear like you've never seen before - people will vote "for" their house prices, wallets and jobs.
You mean they will think that is what they are voting for. There is every chance they will actually be making things worse.
You don't have to tell me. I know, and I agree.
But they'll still largely cling to nurse.
The only thing that could swing it is if they were convinced their money and the economy was safe.
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
I expect at the moment a much heavier Leave defeat.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
No, the higher older turnout, even with graduates for Remain and the anti establishment mood will, as in Scotland see Leave get 45%+ and the renegotiations are not enough to change that. While I expect Remain to win overall across the UK I expect Leave to win England outside of London
If posters like SeanT, Bob Sykes, AndyJS, TSE, DavidL and JohnO all become 100% definite for Leave, and Alastair Meeks comes off the fence for it too, then I'll believe we have a chance.
Just to be clear (but I see your point about 'if'), I am now 50-50 and would still 'like' to vote Remain. Much will depend on what happens at the summit.
so you're ready to swing both ways Mr O ?
Getting a bit racy in the prime of your life it seems.
Growing old disgracefully: it's the fun upside of having to get up too many times during the night.
Mr. Rentool, my historical comparison of Osborne and Antigonus Monopthalmus is nothing short of magnificent.
They even share the same habits of rewarding loyalty well, and being harsh towards enemies.
Was Antigonus Monopthalmus also totally shit at running an economy ?
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
LOL manufacturing PMIs are inspite of GO not because.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
Like PFI's .....labour governments take a lot of "unwinding"
No Tory Government has passed on a Budget Surplus to a Labour Government.
Oh well .....at least Brown did not after all have to write a thank you letter to the tories.
Thanks for clearing that up after all these years.
Well then ,perhaps you would like to give us an example of when the Tories did bequeath a Budget Surplus to a successor Government? The last Budget Surplus under a Toryy Government was in the late 1980s when Lawson was able to enjoy the benefit of North Sea Oil revenues at their peak and the proceeds of Privatisation. Of course, he frittered them away on tax cuts.
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
I expect at the moment a much heavier Leave defeat.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
Remain 60 - 40 Leave !
At the moment, I think 58-59 for Remain, but it could go as high as 62-63%.
It will be Project Fear like you've never seen before - people will vote "for" their house prices, wallets and jobs.
You mean they will think that is what they are voting for. There is every chance they will actually be making things worse.
Most people fear loss more than they crave gains. A 50% chance of their house being worth less ways more heavily on their decision than a 50% chance their income could be higher.
Yes, we are presently debating a referendum for which no date has yet to be determined and negotiations essentially to get a comma moved here or there which will convince no one, least of all antis but might allow Cameron to swing a handful of the most undecided Cameron lovers to back Remain!
The only people the renegotiation will "convince" are Dave's cabinet colleagues . The country was in favour of staying in Europe anyway, and that I can't see changing.
The country is split about 51% Remain 49% Leave short of any major renegotiation and that is the result I expect
I expect at the moment a much heavier Leave defeat.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
No, the higher older turnout, even with graduates for Remain and the anti establishment mood will, as in Scotland see Leave get 45%+ and the renegotiations are not enough to change that. While I expect Remain to win overall across the UK I expect Leave to win England outside of London
If posters like SeanT, Bob Sykes, AndyJS, TSE, DavidL and JohnO all become 100% definite for Leave, and Alastair Meeks comes off the fence for it too, then I'll believe we have a chance.
Of course there is a chance, more polls have Leave ahead than had Yes ahead at this stage in Scotland and Yes got 45%!
I don't believe the online polls.
All you have to do is add 90%+ of UKIP voters voting Leave, at least 50% of Tories and a quarter of Labour voters and you get to 45%+ Leave minimum
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Eastbourne (Ashford to Brighton, London to Hastings)
Derby (Birmingham to Nottingham)
Grantham (Nottingham to Skegness)
Manchester Airport (Crewe to Manchester)
Sheffield (Norwich to Liverpool)
Worcester Shrub Hill (Birmingham to Hereford)
and perhaps quite a few other locations
It's standard spin. When your side wins, they win. When they other side wins, it's a humanitarian disaster, it's all civilians, it's indiscriminate slaughter, its people starving under seige, etc.
My most recent blog was a review of an Antigonus biography:
http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/antigonus-one-eyed-by-jeff-champion.html
If you're interested in things like measuring the level of influence of the UK in the EU, then Simon Hix is usually the go-to chap. He's in the LSE and does all the big analysis sums. He did a series of articles on UK-EU influence[1]
[1] http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2015/11/16/uk-influence-in-europe-series-is-the-uk-at-the-top-table-in-eu-negotiations/
Oh dear. And there was me thinking the manufacturing PMIs would cheer you up.
Incidentally, having started my business growth in a recession, I am still uber cautious when making stock purchases, cash flow management and growth plans. Often wondered how hard it must be to cope with recessions if your business started in a boom.
To connect the two lines would mean either rebuilding the lines from some distance out of Forster Sq or demolishing large parts of central Bradford (some of which have only just been built). Also problematic is that the Interchange is a good deal higher than Forster Sq so the line would need raising even where it currently is - which would then have a knock-on effect on existing bridges over the line.
All of which would be to link up parts of W Yorks that people don't travel between all that much. Now, you might argue that they *would* travel more if there was the service to do it, and that's perhaps true, but the numbers would be unlikely to justify a cost I last saw as top-side of £100m and probably - given the new shopping centre in Bradford - a good deal more now. If that money is going spare, I'd rather it was spent on lengthening the platforms on the commuter lines to take six-coach trains so that when the Pacer sets are finally replaced, the operator can order 3-coach sets and double them up in the mornings.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/datablog/2015/nov/02/is-uk-winner-or-loser-european-council
It supports the view that (since 2009) we have been outvoted more often than other countries in the Council, though how you interpret that data is another matter. As the author says:
- The council overwhelmingly decides by consensus, which means the UK is on the winning majority side almost 87% of the time.
- The UK government might be more willing than other governments to publicly register its opposition to EU decisions.
- The data does not tell us what went on behind the scenes on each of these issues, and hence how much the UK disagreed with the majority position when it recorded its opposition – perhaps the UK was on the winning side on all the key issues it really cared about in this period.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7wkpGgYLIRs
I am very familiar with the work of Simon Hix. In fact I have been reading his blog on this very subject this afternoon. It goes some way to answering Richard N's question concerning Germany. The UK has lost 12.3% of the total votes in the last 6 years - every one they have opposed. Germany is the next highest loser having lost 5.4% of the votes. There is no data on how many measures they opposed but won with allies.
Interestingly the votes the UK lost were generally concerning the Budget, Foreign and security policy, Agriculture, Justice and Home affairs and Social policy - all areas which I would contend are not much to do with the single market and so should be areas where we should be making our own decisions, not having them imposed on us.
On the other hand Carney has just downgraded the economy and we also learnt we wont eliminate the deficit by 2020.
To the west is Paddington and the Tamar. Well ok the south west if you are going to be pedantic
See it from the Continental perspective and the reasonable belief is that after giving so much time and space for Cameron to hold a referendum, in which his desired outcome equals essentially no change to the status quo, payback time is to be expected.
So: if we use "percentage of votes lost in last 6 years" as the statistic to measure influence, then UK is first at 12.3%, Germany is second at 5.4%, and so on
Conversely, if we use "number of votes opposed by X and not carried" then UK is at 55: I assume (but do not know) that this is a high figure compared to other countries?
Face up to it chaps the man aint up to the day job.
He's in the job for as long as it took to fight World War 2 and still can't deliver a win.
I refer you to my post of 7.09pm
'Frustrated and flailing as his candidacy threatens to slip away, Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey is embarking on a scalding effort over the next week to discredit Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, the man he blames for undermining his campaign and whose ascendancy he deeply resents.
And Mr. Christie has a secret ally: Jeb Bush…
Members of the Bush and Christie campaigns have communicated about their mutual desire to halt Mr. Rubio’s rise in the polls, according to Republican operatives familiar with the conversations. While emails, texts and phone calls between operatives in rival campaigns are not uncommon in the tight-knit world of political strategists, the contact between senior aides in the two campaigns has drifted toward musings about what can be done to stop or at least slow Mr. Rubio, the operatives said.
In a sign of a budding alliance, the aides have, for example, exchanged news articles that raise potential areas of vulnerability for Mr. Rubio.'
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/chris-christie-and-jeb-bush-team-up-against-boy-in-the-bubble-marco-rubio.html?ref=politics&_r=1
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/02/04/rick_santorum_can_t_name_any_of_marco_rubio_s_accomplishments.html
Meanwhile I have found another superb site for political discussion and discourse
http://www.railwayforum.net/
But the real point here is that however many votes other countries lost, almost all of these issues we lost votes on were matters which we should not even have been allowing others to have a say over.
It's similar to asking Hillary Clinton supporters about her achievements. The response is much the same.
It took Labour at least 13 years to trash the joint.
This time Geoirge is skipping out the boom and just hanging around for the bust.
In less than six years he's halved the deficit, had record breaking employment, just look at those PMIs*, he's already destroyed the Lib Dems, and riven Labour mad to the point where they elect Jeremy Corbyn as leader.
If George could walk on water, you'd be criticising him for not being able to swim.
Be honest, what did the Osbornes do to the Brookes in Northern Ireland. Did they play a flute outside your bog** or something.
*What is a PMI? Is it something a woman gets, I know over 50 is good.
**That isn't racist stereotyping about the Irish.
Oh, you mean something she's done for the good of the country or beyond?
Now been at a standstill for 90 mins on the A1. #bbcqt doubtful. Damn.
Or lend him to France.;
http://youtu.be/ccsNr9UJeVY
Really? I mean really ?
Just Like the master clunking fist except this time with oil revenues as they are ......it's just boom and combust
I recommend Last Tango In Paris.
People talk Leave but will end up being big jessies and voting Remain.
The EU is a bit like a f**king awful current account where the bank constantly overcharges you, pays no interest, and screws you over time after time - and laughs at you: everyone hates it, moans about it, and wants to switch to another much better nicer bank, but no-one can't be arsed* with the hassle and they're all a bit scared about the possible downsides of switching.
(*I am currently on hold with First Direct as I'm switching my bank account to them from Santander and clocking a £150 bonus in the process)
Yes, people will live longer and, therefore, the Oldies will have more electoral clout.
Except, we equate Oldies with Pensioners. That will change too, otherwise, all developed countries will head towards bankruptcy.
The pensionable age will be possibly 70 by the time 2050 comes. Under 70, they will still be taxpayers.
Also, the state pension will become less and less relevant except for the poor. They will be clobbered. Perfect for Tories.
To some extent this geriatric bias can and will be corrected by giving 16 year olds the right to vote.
It will be Project Fear like you've never seen before - people will vote "for" their house prices, wallets and jobs.
Oh?....
No, I don't mean someone earning 400k a year.
What I mean is someone who doesn't want to be in the EU. But who's (near-term) financial self interest seems to be tied up in staying. He'll bitch and moan about the EU. But his biggest asset by far is his overpriced flat in London, and he'll worry what will happen to house prices in a post EU world.
Thanks for clearing that up after all these years.
Getting a bit racy in the prime of your life it seems.
But they'll still largely cling to nurse.
The only thing that could swing it is if they were convinced their money and the economy was safe.
*Sterilises keyboard