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  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,740
    Trump leads by SEVEN votes:

    Trump 691
    Cruz 684
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited February 2016
    Oh CBS has Hillary 48, Sanders 46, O'Malley 3 now.

    Cruz 27
    Trump 25
    Rubio 23
    Carson 7
    Paul 6

    Numbers changing all the time.
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,890
    AndyJS said:

    Bush has picked up 3 votes so far, all of them in Poweshiek County.

    Do we have their names?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    stjohn said:

    AndyJS said:

    Bush has picked up 3 votes so far, all of them in Poweshiek County.

    Do we have their names?
    Bush, probably.
  • Calling it now, Cruz first in Iowa
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,740
    Cruz leads: 1290 to 1245!
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158

    Calling it now, Cruz first in Iowa

    I've just plumped similarly. The fact that Trump isn't surging is very encouraging for Cruz and Rubio.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    CNN and CBS contradictory messages tbh

    CBS miles better for Rubio.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    Mortimer said:

    Calling it now, Cruz first in Iowa

    I've just plumped similarly. The fact that Trump isn't surging is very encouraging for Cruz and Rubio.
    Rural counties report first and lean Cruz, as long as Trump is neck and neck or so for the moment he should win once the suburbs and Des Moines report
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Calling it now, Cruz first in Iowa

    I think you may be a bit premature...
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,823
    Mortimer said:

    ...I've just plumped similarly...

    Ew.

  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,823

    ...Palpatine: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many policy platforms some consider to be unelectable...

    LOL!

  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    7% in

    Cruz 30
    Trump 29
    Rubio 18

    19% in
    Hillary 53
    Sanders 46
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    From Kevin Barry (Iowa CBS affiliate reporter) on Twitter via Jonah Goldberg:
    Moderator asks room for a surrogate speaker for @JebBush. In room of 700, no one raised their hand. Audible gasps. #IaCaucus
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    :smiley:
    AndyJS said:

    stjohn said:

    AndyJS said:

    Bush has picked up 3 votes so far, all of them in Poweshiek County.

    Do we have their names?
    Bush, probably.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    HYUFD said:

    Mortimer said:

    Calling it now, Cruz first in Iowa

    I've just plumped similarly. The fact that Trump isn't surging is very encouraging for Cruz and Rubio.
    Rural counties report first and lean Cruz, as long as Trump is neck and neck or so for the moment he should win once the suburbs and Des Moines report
    Only 3% reported, but Cruz leads in Polk.
  • AndyJS said:

    Calling it now, Cruz first in Iowa

    I think you may be a bit premature...
    Possibly, however i really get the feeling there is so much hype around Trump that it wont come into tangible votes....
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,890

    AndyJS said:

    Calling it now, Cruz first in Iowa

    I think you may be a bit premature...
    Possibly, however i really get the feeling there is so much hype around Trump that it wont come into tangible votes....
    Is that Matthew Partridge - former stalwart from the early days of Political Betting?
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,740
    CNN showing one location with Trump 3rd - way behind - Rubio leading.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    LIVE on #Periscope: Democratic caucus https://t.co/jMdvo4wFfs
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    edited February 2016
    Getting close to BF Cruz/Trump crossover
  • Cruz ahead?
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,890
    Latest Betfair

    Trump 2.16-2.6
    Cruz 1.58-1.95
    Rubio 30-100
  • tpfkartpfkar Posts: 1,565
    Clinton well ahead of Bernie so far, more than the polls had predicted. I wonder if there's a similar polling issue to the UK, that a left-wing candidate attracting the young has lots of keen fans answering polls, over-estimating support?

    Huge momentum for Cruz if he wins or even runs Trump close. Lots of pressure on those beyond the top 3 to pull out soon.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    Cruz ahead?

    I think Cruz and Hillary are going to going to win.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Shy Cruz Factor in the "entrance polls"?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,172



    Palpatine: Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Darth Corbyn the Wise?

    Anakin: No.

    Palpatine: I thought not. It's not a story the Labour Party would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Corbyn was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to influence the midi-chlorians to create... Left-wing Policies. He had such a knowledge of the Dark Side, he could even keep the ones he cared about... from dying from boredom at Party meetings.

    Anakin: He could actually...save people from boring themselves to death?

    Palpatine: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many policy platforms some consider to be unelectable.

    Anakin: What happened to him?

    Palpatine: He became so powerful, the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power... which, eventually of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his Shadow Chancellor everything he knew. Then his Shadow Chancellor stole his best policies. Ironic. He could save others from obscurity... but not himself.

    Anakin: Is it possible to learn this power?

    Palpatine: Not from a Socialist...

    Love it! Altough it'll take a lot to beat "and lay off their largest constituency, and listen to their chortling and tittering, while we conduct austerity debates". :D
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    BBC News saying a quarter of the Democrat vote in, with Hillary 5% ahead.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    14% in

    Cruz 30
    Trump 28
    Rubio 19
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,890
    If Trump loses I could see the old windbag deflating. He wasn't expected to win Iowa until recently. Now, because of expectations, if he loses it could prove serious for his overall chances.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,172
    Has the Trump train derailed?
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    O'Malley is holding a victory party. Bless.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    34% in

    Hillary 52
    Sanders 48
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Tim Stanley
    Bush 1980 32%
    Bush 1988 19%
    Bush 2000 41%
    Bush 201 <5%
    #IowaCaucus
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    stjohn said:

    If Trump loses I could see the old windbag deflating. He wasn't expected to win Iowa until recently. Now, because of expectations, if he loses it could prove serious for his overall chances.

    He has a very big lead in the New Hampshire polls.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    stjohn said:

    If Trump loses I could see the old windbag deflating. He wasn't expected to win Iowa until recently. Now, because of expectations, if he loses it could prove serious for his overall chances.

    If Cruz wins that means he becomes Trump's main rival, if Trump wins NH whichever of them wins SC is likely nominee, however I still think Trump will squeeze it out as more urban areas report
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    41% in

    Hillary 51
    Sanders 48

    19% in
    Cruz 30
    Trump 27
    Rubio 19
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,890
    AndyJS said:

    stjohn said:

    If Trump loses I could see the old windbag deflating. He wasn't expected to win Iowa until recently. Now, because of expectations, if he loses it could prove serious for his overall chances.

    He has a very big lead in the New Hampshire polls.
    Yes. But momentum is crucial. I'm not saying Trump would lose New Hampshire if he loses Iowa - but a small win in NH wouldn't be very good for him.
  • Cruz 30
    Trump 27
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    I thought they were saying earlier that the Democrat results would take much longer to come in? Weird.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    HYUFD said:

    stjohn said:

    If Trump loses I could see the old windbag deflating. He wasn't expected to win Iowa until recently. Now, because of expectations, if he loses it could prove serious for his overall chances.

    If Cruz wins that means he becomes Trump's main rival, if Trump wins NH whichever of them wins SC is likely nominee, however I still think Trump will squeeze it out as more urban areas report
    I told you to short Trump a few hours ago.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Mark Gettleson
    @LouiseMensch It's almost all rural conservative precincts so far, but early Cruz lead in Polk County is very interesting
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    I've got £17 on Cruz at 3.85
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited February 2016
    It looks like Des Moine will deliver victory to Cruz and Hillary.
    First time that a major city has voted for the more right wing candidate.
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,890
    Betfair has Trump and Cruz back at effectively Evens the pair.

    NH Trump currently 1.3-1.34
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    With 19% of precincts counted, Jim Gilmore has 2 votes. Not 2 percent. 2.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    Speedy said:

    It looks like Des Moine will deliver victory to Cruz and Hillary.
    First time that a major city has voted for the more right wing candidate.

    Anyone know est. % of the total GOP electorate is in Polk?
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    I have the suspicion that the announcement of the entrance polls an hour before voting started skewed the results on the GOP side in favour of Cruz.

    Either that or all polls where crap.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    stjohn said:

    Betfair has Trump and Cruz back at effectively Evens the pair.

    NH Trump currently 1.3-1.34

    Cruz tightening again.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    stjohn said:

    If Trump loses I could see the old windbag deflating. He wasn't expected to win Iowa until recently. Now, because of expectations, if he loses it could prove serious for his overall chances.

    If Cruz wins that means he becomes Trump's main rival, if Trump wins NH whichever of them wins SC is likely nominee, however I still think Trump will squeeze it out as more urban areas report
    I told you to short Trump a few hours ago.
    That had nothing to do with turnout
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited February 2016
    Even if Cruz edges it in Iowa, that would probably result in just a 1 delegate lead, owing to its PR allocation.

    NH and SC are quasi Winner Takes All, and far more significant.

    I will soon have a spreadsheet up, indicating all of this, as I did in 2012.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Mortimer said:

    Speedy said:

    It looks like Des Moine will deliver victory to Cruz and Hillary.
    First time that a major city has voted for the more right wing candidate.

    Anyone know est. % of the total GOP electorate is in Polk?
    It could be around 1/10th for the GOP, around 1/5 for the DNC.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,172
    RodCrosby said:

    Even if Cruz edges it in Iowa, that would probably result in just a 1 delegate lead, owing to its PR allocation.

    NH and SC are quasi Winner Takes All, and far more significant.

    I will soon have a spreadsheet up, indicating all of this, as I did in 2012.

    It's all about the momentum!
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    RobD said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Even if Cruz edges it in Iowa, that would probably result in just a 1 delegate lead, owing to its PR allocation.

    NH and SC are quasi Winner Takes All, and far more significant.

    I will soon have a spreadsheet up, indicating all of this, as I did in 2012.

    It's all about the momentum!
    Yeah, we heard that about Santorum and Gingrich too, in 2012...
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,890
    Mortimer said:

    stjohn said:

    Betfair has Trump and Cruz back at effectively Evens the pair.

    NH Trump currently 1.3-1.34

    Cruz tightening again.
    Yes. Cruz now clear but not decisive favourite.

    Trump 2.5-3.3
    Cruz 1.46-1.65
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    stjohn said:

    If Trump loses I could see the old windbag deflating. He wasn't expected to win Iowa until recently. Now, because of expectations, if he loses it could prove serious for his overall chances.

    If Cruz wins that means he becomes Trump's main rival, if Trump wins NH whichever of them wins SC is likely nominee, however I still think Trump will squeeze it out as more urban areas report
    I told you to short Trump a few hours ago.
    That had nothing to do with turnout
    So far turnout looks like 140k for the GOP, at the low end of expectations.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    stjohn said:

    If Trump loses I could see the old windbag deflating. He wasn't expected to win Iowa until recently. Now, because of expectations, if he loses it could prove serious for his overall chances.

    If Cruz wins that means he becomes Trump's main rival, if Trump wins NH whichever of them wins SC is likely nominee, however I still think Trump will squeeze it out as more urban areas report
    I told you to short Trump a few hours ago.
    That had nothing to do with turnout
    So far turnout looks like 140k for the GOP, at the low end of expectations.
    Has to be good for Cruz and poor for Trump - especially in urban areas.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Mortimer said:

    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    stjohn said:

    If Trump loses I could see the old windbag deflating. He wasn't expected to win Iowa until recently. Now, because of expectations, if he loses it could prove serious for his overall chances.

    If Cruz wins that means he becomes Trump's main rival, if Trump wins NH whichever of them wins SC is likely nominee, however I still think Trump will squeeze it out as more urban areas report
    I told you to short Trump a few hours ago.
    That had nothing to do with turnout
    So far turnout looks like 140k for the GOP, at the low end of expectations.
    Has to be good for Cruz and poor for Trump - especially in urban areas.
    Cruz is winning urban areas.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    37% in

    Cruz 29
    Trump 26
    Rubio 20

    57% in
    Hillary 51
    Sanders 48
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,740
    Big jump in numbers reporting:

    Cruz 29
    Trump 26
    Rubio 20

    Big picture = good for Rubio?
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    MikeL said:

    Big jump in numbers reporting:

    Cruz 29
    Trump 26
    Rubio 20

    Big picture = good for Rubio?

    The media will bury Trump and raise an altar to Rubio.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    40% in

    Cruz 29
    Trump 26
    Rubio 20

    I'm calling it officially Cruz and Hillary have won.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    59.01% reporting
    Hillary Clinton 51.0%
    Bernie Sanders 48.5%
    Martin O'Malley 0.6%
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    Trump drifting out to 4.5...
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    63% in
    Hillary 51
    Sanders 49

    Perhaps I called Hillary too early.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Bush and Paul might get one delegate if they're lucky, Carson 3.

    Everyone below them nada.

    In NH you need 10% to get anything, while SC is quasi FPTP by district and statewide.

    Maybe after then there'll be a maximum of four candidates left in the race.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    Speedy said:

    63% in
    Hillary 51
    Sanders 49

    Perhaps I called Hillary too early.

    It is looking closer.

    Rubio and Trump battling out for 2nd in Polk.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    It looks really bad for Trump, the city of Des Moine really hates him.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,823
    Speedy said:

    63% in
    Hillary 51
    Sanders 49

    Perhaps I called Hillary too early.

    At this rate, you've only got about 30-45 mins before you hit 100%
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,740
    Trump slips:

    Now 29/25/21
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    52% in
    Cruz 29
    Trump 25
    Rubio 21
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Paul Lewis ✔ @PaulLewis
    One of Donald Trump's most talkative senior advisors tells me he's not in the mood for a chat. "I don't think I should do that right now."
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    If Hillary wins Iowa place a big bet on her for president.
    The GOP race looks like it's going to be a long fight with a very high probability they are going to select a weak candidate like in 2012.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    Speedy said:

    MikeL said:

    Big jump in numbers reporting:

    Cruz 29
    Trump 26
    Rubio 20

    Big picture = good for Rubio?

    The media will bury Trump and raise an altar to Rubio.
    Assuming Trump wins New Hampshire it is between him and Cruz now for the nomination, with Rubio taking the bronze. Rubio either needs to win New Hampshire or take a strong second and then win South Carolina to become nominee now. Anyway, looks like a better than expected night for Cruz and Iowa has once again gone for the more evangelical conservative candidate. Will wait a few more minutes then check in again in the morning

    On the Democratic side was close as expected but Hillary looks to have won
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,890
    Rubio now vying with Trump for favourite's position as the overall 2016 GOP nominee.

    Trump 2.34-2.98
    Rubio 2.48-2.72
    Cruz 7.8-9.0
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Narrowing a tad, and Rubio creeping up.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    60% in

    Cruz 28
    Trump 25
    Rubio 22
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    stjohn said:

    Rubio now vying with Trump for favourite's position as the overall 2016 GOP nominee.

    Trump 2.34-2.98
    Rubio 2.48-2.72
    Cruz 7.8-9.0

    Cruz should be much tighter than that, Trump will likely win NH but Cruz is much more likely to win South Carolina than Rubio
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,890
    edited February 2016
    Betfair almost calling it for Cruz in Iowa.

    Cruz 1.06-1.07
    Trump 10.5-95

    My only POTUS bet of note so far is Cruz to be the overall GOP nominee at 5.0. At least he looks competitive again and his current nominee odds look a bit big.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    edited February 2016
    Speedy said:

    If Hillary wins Iowa place a big bet on her for president.
    The GOP race looks like it's going to be a long fight with a very high probability they are going to select a weak candidate like in 2012.

    Yes, a good night for Hillary, she has held off Sanders and her dream scenario is a Trump v Cruz battle which looks more likely tonight, while Rubio is still in the fight he has also failed to do an Obama and win the Iowa caucuses which will please her as he is the candidate her camp most fear.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    75% in

    Cruz 28
    Trump 25
    Rubio 22
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited February 2016
    On the DEM side the count has stopped at 63%

    Hillary 51
    Sanders 49

    O'Malley has suspended his campaign.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    Finally made some money on Iowa after 3 goes!

    Wish I'd shorted Trump more - he was at 1.3-1.4 as the market went in play.

    Goodnight all - thanks for the company!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    @EdMorrissey
    CNN now reporting that Martin O'Malley will suspend his campaign in the next 40 minutes.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited February 2016
    73% in

    Hillary 50
    Sanders 49

    72% in
    Cruz 28
    Trump 25
    Rubio 23
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Hmm
  • 75% in

    Cruz 28
    Trump 25
    Rubio 22
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    76.8% reporting
    Hillary Clinton
    50.3%
    Bernie Sanders
    49.0%
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Danny565 said:

    76.8% reporting
    Hillary Clinton
    50.3%
    Bernie Sanders
    49.0%

    Sanders would need a 4.3% lead in the remaining to overtake...
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    75% in

    Cruz 28
    Trump 25
    Rubio 22

    Trump would need a 9 point lead in the remaining to overtake.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited February 2016
    I have to say opinion polls are crap throughout the world.

    I can't believe the time I waste look at them and posting them.
    From now on all polls go to the bin, I won't even look at them.
  • Speedy said:

    I have to say opinion polls are crap throughout the world.

    Sunil J. Prasannan is calling for a total and complete shut-down of opinion polls entering political discourse, until the polling companies' representatives can figure out what the hell is going on!
  • RodCrosby said:

    75% in

    Cruz 28
    Trump 25
    Rubio 22

    Trump would need a 9 point lead in the remaining to overtake.
    Cruz Control?
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,890

    Speedy said:

    I have to say opinion polls are crap throughout the world.

    Sunil J. Prasannan is calling for a total and complete shut-down of opinion polls entering political discourse, until the polling companies' representatives can figure out what the hell is going on!
    :-)
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    2 hours later and we still don't know who's going to win either contest.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited February 2016
    97% in

    Cruz 28
    Trump 24
    Rubio 23

    And that's the big hit on the Trump campaign.
    The worst of all worlds for Trump.

    80% in

    Hillary 50
    Sanders 49
  • Whoa

    97% in all of a sudden

    Cruz 28
    Trump 24
    Rubio 23

    OMG!
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Speedy said:

    97% in

    Cruz 28
    Trump 24
    Rubio 23

    And that's the big hit on the Trump campaign.
    The worst of all worlds for Trump.

    80% in

    Hillary 50
    Sanders 49

    97%? It says 81% on here:

    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/pages/interactives/elections-results-primaries-2016/#/#/
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