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Parkfield and Oxbridge (Lab defence) on Stockton-on Tees
Result of council at last election (2015): Labour 32, Conservatives 13, Independents 10, Liberal Democrat 1 (Labour majority of 8)
Result of ward at last election :

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TheScreamingEagles

Stockon was a very profitable place at the least election

TheScreamingEagles

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

Scott_P

https://twitter.com/generalboles/status/692817292627939328

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/01/28/jk-rowling-receives-apology-natalie-mcgarry-mp_n_9103072.html?1454016338

Stark_Dawning

TheScreamingEagles said:

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

'One of those who has already cancelled their legacy was going to leave a “seven figure sum” and the college is aware that “another major donor is furious with the College… whose legacy could be in excess of £100m”.

Oriel is now preparing to make redundancies among its staff because of the collapse in donations. And it has cancelled an annual fundraising drive that should have taken place in April. It could now make an operating loss of around £200,000 this year.'

What an unadulterated fiasco.

MP_SE

Universities need to take a firm stand against social justice warriors.

Oriel is now preparing to make redundancies among its staff because of the collapse in donations.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

Big_G_NorthWales

Aberdeen received £250 million from David Cameron today in a City deal. It cannot do any harm for Ruth Davidson or the Scots Conservatives in the May 2016 election, especially in this area of Scotland. Labour down to third maybe in May.

Scott_P

No sooner does a gruelling game of musical chairs end than speculation begins about the next moves in what seems to be a permanent Labour reshuffle. Corbynistas mutter that Ed Miliband’s old chief whip Rosie Winterton is disloyal and must go. She put a £33,000 honorarium on the line by threatening to quit if Jezza’s henchman John McDonnell sacked her deputy, Alan Campbell. And who is touted by Corbynistas as her potential replacement? Nick “Newcastle” Brown, a government chief whip under Tony Blair and Gordon Brown who was dumped when Miliband wanted to make way for Winterton. What goes around . . .

http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/observations/2016/01/commons-confidential-every-day-reshuffling

Sunil_Prasannan

TheScreamingEagles said:

Stockon was a very profitable place at the least election

One terminus of the world's first passenger railway.

Casino_Royale

TheScreamingEagles said:

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

0:29 to 2:15 should be compulsorily showing, now, in Oriel College:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wVadAzGg48

(in fact, they could go on until 3:31 for the namecheck)

watford30

Stark_Dawning said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

'One of those who has already cancelled their legacy was going to leave a “seven figure sum” and the college is aware that “another major donor is furious with the College… whose legacy could be in excess of £100m”.

Oriel is now preparing to make redundancies among its staff because of the collapse in donations. And it has cancelled an annual fundraising drive that should have taken place in April. It could now make an operating loss of around £200,000 this year.'

What an unadulterated fiasco.

Clowns running the campaign, jokers running the College.

Hertsmere_Pubgoer

Stark_Dawning said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

'One of those who has already cancelled their legacy was going to leave a “seven figure sum” and the college is aware that “another major donor is furious with the College… whose legacy could be in excess of £100m”.

Oriel is now preparing to make redundancies among its staff because of the collapse in donations. And it has cancelled an annual fundraising drive that should have taken place in April. It could now make an operating loss of around £200,000 this year.'

What an unadulterated fiasco.

That idiot student that started it all should be handed the bill.
Consequences of his actions and all that.

eek

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Stockon was a very profitable place at the least election

One terminus of the world's first passenger railway.

Not for very long though it was quickly extended to Port Darlington (now Middlesbrough)...

In even more off topic mode Mrs Eek has just pointed out that George Osbourne's nose looks like 2 bum cheeks.... I share that simply because she claims that once you know that you'll never look at him the same way....

TheScreamingEagles

Poor JK Rowling is going to rue the day

@jk_rowling: .@NatalieMcGarry You don't appear to understand how Twitter or defamation works. I'm going to help you out with the latter.

Sunil_Prasannan

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

0:29 to 2:15 should be compulsorily showing, now, in Oriel College:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wVadAzGg48

(in fact, they could go on until 3:31 for the namecheck)

I remember that mini-series - I found the theme tune very stirring

Stark_Dawning

watford30 said:

Stark_Dawning said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

'One of those who has already cancelled their legacy was going to leave a “seven figure sum” and the college is aware that “another major donor is furious with the College… whose legacy could be in excess of £100m”.

Oriel is now preparing to make redundancies among its staff because of the collapse in donations. And it has cancelled an annual fundraising drive that should have taken place in April. It could now make an operating loss of around £200,000 this year.'

What an unadulterated fiasco.

Clowns running the campaign, jokers running the College.

I bet there was a sharp intake of breath amongst the dons when the 100 million bloke announced he was reconsidering his position.

Speedy

How did I miss this?

Gabriel Sherman ‏@gabrielsherman 2h2 hours ago
Realistic chance Trump could have his cake and eat it, too: he told people this afternoon he might go to debate tonight after his event.

Knowing that his event starts at the same time as the debate, is it realistical to expect Trump to crash in the middle or the end of the FOX debate ?

AndyJS

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Stockon was a very profitable place at the least election

One terminus of the world's first passenger railway.

Edited.

Scott_P

@MichaelPDeacon: JK Rowling is now through to the next round of Twitter, where she'll face Kanye West for a place in Sunday's final against Donald Trump

@MichaelPDeacon: Disappointing result for Wings, gave everything tonight but possibly lacking that bit of experience at this level

TheScreamingEagles

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

0:29 to 2:15 should be compulsorily showing, now, in Oriel College:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wVadAzGg48

(in fact, they could go on until 3:31 for the namecheck)

I'm launching a war (Jihad if you like) on the idiots on the left and the idiots on the right who keep on doing down this country of ours.

We've got a great history and we've got so much to be optimistic about.

watford30

Stark_Dawning said:

watford30 said:

Stark_Dawning said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

'One of those who has already cancelled their legacy was going to leave a “seven figure sum” and the college is aware that “another major donor is furious with the College… whose legacy could be in excess of £100m”.

Oriel is now preparing to make redundancies among its staff because of the collapse in donations. And it has cancelled an annual fundraising drive that should have taken place in April. It could now make an operating loss of around £200,000 this year.'

What an unadulterated fiasco.

Clowns running the campaign, jokers running the College.

I bet there was a sharp intake of breath amongst the dons when the 100 million bloke announced he was reconsidering his position.

It probably resulted in a bulk order of new trousers from the nearest tailor.

Sunil_Prasannan

eek said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Stockon was a very profitable place at the least election

One terminus of the world's first passenger railway.

Not for very long though it was quickly extended to Port Darlington (now Middlesbrough)...

In even more off topic mode Mrs Eek has just pointed out that George Osbourne's nose looks like 2 bum checks.... I share that simply because she claims that once you know that you'll never look at him the same way....

That's why I said ONE terminus - the other WAS Darlington

SimonStClare

Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

Stark_Dawning said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

'One of those who has already cancelled their legacy was going to leave a “seven figure sum” and the college is aware that “another major donor is furious with the College… whose legacy could be in excess of £100m”.

Oriel is now preparing to make redundancies among its staff because of the collapse in donations. And it has cancelled an annual fundraising drive that should have taken place in April. It could now make an operating loss of around £200,000 this year.'

What an unadulterated fiasco.

That idiot student that started it all should be handed the bill.
Consequences of his actions and all that.

Indeed – and strip the ungrateful shit of his bursary and ask for the money back.

Casino_Royale

TheScreamingEagles said:

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

0:29 to 2:15 should be compulsorily showing, now, in Oriel College:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wVadAzGg48

(in fact, they could go on until 3:31 for the namecheck)

I'm launching a war (Jihad if you like) on the idiots on the left and the idiots on the right who keep on doing down this country of ours.

We've got a great history and we've got so much to be optimistic about.

Can I join it?

TheScreamingEagles

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

0:29 to 2:15 should be compulsorily showing, now, in Oriel College:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wVadAzGg48

(in fact, they could go on until 3:31 for the namecheck)

I'm launching a war (Jihad if you like) on the idiots on the left and the idiots on the right who keep on doing down this country of ours.

We've got a great history and we've got so much to be optimistic about.

Can I join it?

Yup

AndyJS

Sunil_Prasannan said:

eek said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Stockon was a very profitable place at the least election

One terminus of the world's first passenger railway.

Not for very long though it was quickly extended to Port Darlington (now Middlesbrough)...

In even more off topic mode Mrs Eek has just pointed out that George Osbourne's nose looks like 2 bum checks.... I share that simply because she claims that once you know that you'll never look at him the same way....

That's why I said ONE terminus - the other WAS Darlington

You didn't happen to be at New Street station at about 8:30pm this evening? I think I might have spotted you. The odds of that happening must be about a million to one.

Sunil_Prasannan

AndyJS said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

eek said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Stockon was a very profitable place at the least election

One terminus of the world's first passenger railway.

Not for very long though it was quickly extended to Port Darlington (now Middlesbrough)...

In even more off topic mode Mrs Eek has just pointed out that George Osbourne's nose looks like 2 bum checks.... I share that simply because she claims that once you know that you'll never look at him the same way....

That's why I said ONE terminus - the other WAS Darlington

You didn't happen to be at New Street station at about 8:30pm this evening? I think I might have spotted you. The odds of that happening must be about a million to one.

Yes, I bought something something at Square Pie upstairs and then sat downstairs to eat.

HYUFD

The poll on the last thread comparing Bloomberg v Hillary and Trump/Cruz is irrelevant as Bloomberg's spokesman made quite clear on CNN he would not run if Hillary is the Democratic nominee, only if Sanders is the Democratic nominee and Trump/Cruz is the GOP candidate

eek

Sunil_Prasannan said:

eek said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Stockon was a very profitable place at the least election

One terminus of the world's first passenger railway.

Not for very long though it was quickly extended to Port Darlington (now Middlesbrough)...

In even more off topic mode Mrs Eek has just pointed out that George Osbourne's nose looks like 2 bum checks.... I share that simply because she claims that once you know that you'll never look at him the same way....

That's why I said ONE terminus - the other WAS Darlington

Umm... The other terminus wasn't Darlington..... The passenger train started at Shildon rather near Timothy Hackworth's house...

runnymede

'Oriel is now preparing to make redundancies among its staff because of the collapse in donations. And it has cancelled an annual fundraising drive that should have taken place in April. It could now make an operating loss of around £200,000 this year.'

Hilarious - the price of appeasing idiots

Casino_Royale

AndyJS said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Stockon was a very profitable place at the least election

One terminus of the world's first passenger railway.

Edited.

Have you already worked out what the hell's going on?

Scott_P

@JournoStephen: This is an object lesson, folks. If you're going to defame anyone, make sure it's not someone with a continent's worth of lawyers.

https://twitter.com/chrisdeerin/status/692813549039665153

AndyJS

Sunil_Prasannan said:

AndyJS said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

eek said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Stockon was a very profitable place at the least election

One terminus of the world's first passenger railway.

Not for very long though it was quickly extended to Port Darlington (now Middlesbrough)...

In even more off topic mode Mrs Eek has just pointed out that George Osbourne's nose looks like 2 bum checks.... I share that simply because she claims that once you know that you'll never look at him the same way....

That's why I said ONE terminus - the other WAS Darlington

You didn't happen to be at New Street station at about 8:30pm this evening? I think I might have spotted you. The odds of that happening must be about a million to one.

Yes, I bought something something at Square Pie upstairs and then sat downstairs to eat.

I only recognised you because a few years ago there were some photos of a Dirty Dicks gathering on PB.

Sunil_Prasannan

AndyJS said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

AndyJS said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

eek said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Stockon was a very profitable place at the least election

One terminus of the world's first passenger railway.

Not for very long though it was quickly extended to Port Darlington (now Middlesbrough)...

In even more off topic mode Mrs Eek has just pointed out that George Osbourne's nose looks like 2 bum checks.... I share that simply because she claims that once you know that you'll never look at him the same way....

That's why I said ONE terminus - the other WAS Darlington

You didn't happen to be at New Street station at about 8:30pm this evening? I think I might have spotted you. The odds of that happening must be about a million to one.

Yes, I bought something something at Square Pie upstairs and then sat downstairs to eat.

I only recognised you because a few years ago there were some photos of a Dirty Dicks gathering on PB.

Photos that were Not so flattering, IIRC

HYUFD

Frank Luntz has created his own replica Oval Office at his LA home, BBC news now

AlastairMeeks

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/generalboles/status/692817292627939328

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/01/28/jk-rowling-receives-apology-natalie-mcgarry-mp_n_9103072.html?1454016338

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=suUxA3sS2zg

Sunil_Prasannan

HYUFD said:

Frank Luntz has created his own replica Oval Office at his LA home, BBC news now

He was on those pre-election focus group things on Newsnight last year?

TheScreamingEagles

Sunil_Prasannan said:

HYUFD said:

Frank Luntz has created his own replica Oval Office at his LA home, BBC news now

He was on those pre-election focus group things on Newsnight last year?

and in 2005

Tissue_Price

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_East_by-election,_2016 ?

watford30

SimonStClare said:

Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

Stark_Dawning said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

'One of those who has already cancelled their legacy was going to leave a “seven figure sum” and the college is aware that “another major donor is furious with the College… whose legacy could be in excess of £100m”.

Oriel is now preparing to make redundancies among its staff because of the collapse in donations. And it has cancelled an annual fundraising drive that should have taken place in April. It could now make an operating loss of around £200,000 this year.'

What an unadulterated fiasco.

That idiot student that started it all should be handed the bill.
Consequences of his actions and all that.

Indeed – and strip the ungrateful shit of his bursary and ask for the money back.

These stupid stunts are all the more irritating when you think of how many others would have been grateful to receive that funding.

Scott_P

@NickCohen4: I deplore the repressive UK libel laws but if @jk_rowling wants to sue the living daylights out of @NatalieMcGarry, I'll hold her coat

TheScreamingEagles

Tissue_Price said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_East_by-election,_2016 ?

You can't be an MP if you're a bankrupt can you?

Casino_Royale

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

0:29 to 2:15 should be compulsorily showing, now, in Oriel College:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wVadAzGg48

(in fact, they could go on until 3:31 for the namecheck)

I remember that mini-series - I found the theme tune very stirring

It's a fantastic series. No idea why it flopped; one of my all-time favourites.

another_richard

Re the issue as to where UKIP votes came from and who they hurt most in 2015.

8 Conservative gains from Labour

UKIP average vote 15.4%
UKIP average vote increase 11.7%

10 Labour gains from Conservative

UKIP average vote 8.1%
UKIP average vote increase 6.0%

Looks like UKIP hurt Labour more where it mattered.

Sunil_Prasannan

Tissue_Price said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_East_by-election,_2016 ?

"Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for Glasgow East by-election, 2016 in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings. "

SandyRentool

another_richard said:

Looks like UKIP hurt Labour more where it mattered.

In the (Ed) Balls?

another_richard

runnymede said:

'Oriel is now preparing to make redundancies among its staff because of the collapse in donations. And it has cancelled an annual fundraising drive that should have taken place in April. It could now make an operating loss of around £200,000 this year.'

Hilarious - the price of appeasing idiots

I doubt the appeasers will be making themselves redundant though.

That pain will be passed as far down the chain as possible.

TheScreamingEagles

Genius front page of The Sun

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ10WNnUYAUbS36.jpg

chestnut

Apologies if old news, but Havering vote 30-15 to leave EU

Two 25-30s in my home tonight commenced conversation which basically was UK should vote to Leave.

The first is the daughter of Greek Cypriot migrants, the second of Turkish. Both pretty well paid City workers.

We're leaving. If twenty odd year old second generation, city working migrants think it's a shambles, remain has no hope.

Conversation centred on murder and sexual molestation.

rcs1000

HYUFD said:

The poll on the last thread comparing Bloomberg v Hillary and Trump/Cruz is irrelevant as Bloomberg's spokesman made quite clear on CNN he would not run if Hillary is the Democratic nominee, only if Sanders is the Democratic nominee and Trump/Cruz is the GOP candidate

He won't run against Hillary, but if she drops out and they parachute someone else in, he might run against them.

HYUFD

Sunil_Prasannan said:

HYUFD said:

Frank Luntz has created his own replica Oval Office at his LA home, BBC news now

He was on those pre-election focus group things on Newsnight last year?

Newsnight is his second home

AlastairMeeks

http://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/692838593799151616/photo/1

Sunil_Prasannan

eek said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

eek said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Stockon was a very profitable place at the least election

One terminus of the world's first passenger railway.

Not for very long though it was quickly extended to Port Darlington (now Middlesbrough)...

In even more off topic mode Mrs Eek has just pointed out that George Osbourne's nose looks like 2 bum checks.... I share that simply because she claims that once you know that you'll never look at him the same way....

That's why I said ONE terminus - the other WAS Darlington

Umm... The other terminus wasn't Darlington..... The passenger train started at Shildon rather near Timothy Hackworth's house...

Yes, my mistake...

MP_SE

TheScreamingEagles said:

Genius front page of The Sun

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ10WNnUYAUbS36.jpg

I was sorely disappointed by the "amazing picture". I expected it to be more amazing.

another_richard

AlastairMeeks said:

http://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/692838593799151616/photo/1

I suspect that the 'wash gran' is more likely to become chav tv royalty than go to jail for attempted fraud.

Sunil_Prasannan

TheScreamingEagles said:

Genius front page of The Sun

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ10WNnUYAUbS36.jpg

Someone at the Sun likes C. S. Lewis?

Scott_P

@ScottyNational: Readers questions : Can anyone recommend a lawyer that accepts PayPal? Natalie M

Danny565

A BBC documentary on the Camilla Batman woman coming up next week.

Sunil_Prasannan

Jess Phillips!

Danny565

Oh good, Jess Phillips is on Question Time.

TheScreamingEagles

MP_SE said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Genius front page of The Sun

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ10WNnUYAUbS36.jpg

I was sorely disappointed by the "amazing picture". I expected it to be more amazing.

Me too.

eek

Sunil_Prasannan said:

eek said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

eek said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Stockon was a very profitable place at the least election

One terminus of the world's first passenger railway.

Not for very long though it was quickly extended to Port Darlington (now Middlesbrough)...

In even more off topic mode Mrs Eek has just pointed out that George Osbourne's nose looks like 2 bum checks.... I share that simply because she claims that once you know that you'll never look at him the same way....

That's why I said ONE terminus - the other WAS Darlington

Umm... The other terminus wasn't Darlington..... The passenger train started at Shildon rather near Timothy Hackworth's house...

Yes, my mistake...

If you had visited Locomotion the number of times I have over the years you would understand how much that information is drilled into my brain....

TheScreamingEagles

I remember Private Eye had a picture of Tony Blair, Cherie Blair, and George W Bush captioned

'The Liar, The Witch, and the Warmonger'

TheScreamingEagles

Sunil being wrong about the railways, the universe no longer makes no sense any more.

eek

chestnut said:

Apologies if old news, but Havering vote 30-15 to leave EU

Two 25-30s in my home tonight commenced conversation which basically was UK should vote to Leave.

The first is the daughter of Greek Cypriot migrants, the second of Turkish. Both pretty well paid City workers.

We're leaving. If twenty odd year old second generation, city working migrants think it's a shambles, remain has no hope.

Conversation centred on murder and sexual molestation.

I don't think its old news at all. The more the background migrant news continues the more people may decide that leave is a safer option than remain.

The only problem both campaigns have is their omnishambles approach to campaigning...

Sunil_Prasannan

eek said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

eek said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

eek said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Stockon was a very profitable place at the least election

One terminus of the world's first passenger railway.

Not for very long though it was quickly extended to Port Darlington (now Middlesbrough)...

In even more off topic mode Mrs Eek has just pointed out that George Osbourne's nose looks like 2 bum checks.... I share that simply because she claims that once you know that you'll never look at him the same way....

That's why I said ONE terminus - the other WAS Darlington

Umm... The other terminus wasn't Darlington..... The passenger train started at Shildon rather near Timothy Hackworth's house...

Yes, my mistake...

If you had visited Locomotion the number of times I have over the years you would understand how much that information is drilled into my brain....

I've only been through your region on the ECML without stopping, as far as Edinburgh and Leuchars. The Northern-most outposts of Sunil's railway travels in England include Liverpool, Wigan, Manchester, Leeds and Sheffield.

Mortimer

The Google issue isn't going to chime whilst the majority of taxpayers are getting tax cuts.

AndyJS

Happy 30th birthday to Jessica Ennis-Hill, (incidentally born on the same day as the Challenger disaster).

https://twitter.com/J_Ennis/status/692781508424290304

Scott_P

@fatshez: Campaign to extend legal aid provision in civil cases in Scotland about to get a new, high profile supporter...

Dair

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Aberdeen received £250 million today from David Cameron in a City deal. It cannot do any harm for Ruth Davidson or the Scots Conservatives in the coming Holyrood election, especially in this area of Scotland

£125m from UK government. £350m from the Scottish government.

Westminster's inadequacy is not going unnoticed. I have a feeling that Aberdeen might be replacing Dundee and Glasgow as SNP central.

Mortimer

Dair said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Aberdeen received £250 million today from David Cameron in a City deal. It cannot do any harm for Ruth Davidson or the Scots Conservatives in the coming Holyrood election, especially in this area of Scotland

£125m from UK government. £350m from the Scottish government.

Westminster's inadequacy is not going unnoticed. I have a feeling that Aberdeen might be replacing Dundee and Glasgow as SNP central.

Quite. They should have stood up and said it all comes from Scottish budget.

Big_G_NorthWales

Dair said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Aberdeen received £250 million today from David Cameron in a City deal. It cannot do any harm for Ruth Davidson or the Scots Conservatives in the coming Holyrood election, especially in this area of Scotland

£125m from UK government. £350m from the Scottish government.

Westminster's inadequacy is not going unnoticed. I have a feeling that Aberdeen might be replacing Dundee and Glasgow as SNP central.

Think that maybe biased but we will see in May

AndyJS

I wonder whether the Rio Olympics might be under threat due to the Zika virus.

EPG

chestnut said:

Apologies if old news, but Havering vote 30-15 to leave EU

Two 25-30s in my home tonight commenced conversation which basically was UK should vote to Leave.

The first is the daughter of Greek Cypriot migrants, the second of Turkish. Both pretty well paid City workers.

We're leaving. If twenty odd year old second generation, city working migrants think it's a shambles, remain has no hope.

Conversation centred on murder and sexual molestation.

Nah. Small sample size. It's like reading PB comment and concluding that everyone in Britain regardless of sex, orientation or ethnicity is a Tory.

Scott_P

Wings has just posted this

"If Ms Rowling doesn’t like that, she can sue us instead."

http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-tweets-you-wont-read/

AlastairMeeks

I can't imagine JK Rowling is going to sue Natalie McGarry, having received a grovelling apology and having seen her utterly humiliated.

Eagles do not strain at Nats.

EPG

Much arfing from PB fogeys re Oriel as the millionaires use their money to settle the argument in the fogey direction

PB fogeys say African student should be punished for not being grateful enough to the rich white men

Irony detectors overloading

Sunil_Prasannan

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sunil being wrong about the railways, the universe no longer makes no sense any more.

I find your lack of faith disturbing!

I just haven't visited any stations in the North East.

EPG

PB fogeys will salivate over free speech when it's used to attack Muslims as sex-criminal barbarians, but when it is used to suggest that Rhodes was a bad man, free speech must be punished because its consequences that pro-Rhodes millionaires might be offended

gettingbetter

SeanT said:

Stark_Dawning said:

watford30 said:

Stark_Dawning said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

'One of those who has already cancelled their legacy was going to leave a “seven figure sum” and the college is aware that “another major donor is furious with the College… whose legacy could be in excess of £100m”.

Oriel is now preparing to make redundancies among its staff because of the collapse in donations. And it has cancelled an annual fundraising drive that should have taken place in April. It could now make an operating loss of around £200,000 this year.'

What an unadulterated fiasco.

Clowns running the campaign, jokers running the College.

I bet there was a sharp intake of breath amongst the dons when the 100 million bloke announced he was reconsidering his position.

There was a young man from St John's
Who wanted to bugger the swans
"Oh no," said the porter,
"Please bugger my daughter,
The swans are reserved for the dons"

Very witty

Sunil_Prasannan

EPG said:

Much arfing from PB fogeys re Oriel as the millionaires use their money to settle the argument in the fogey direction

PB fogeys say African student should be punished for not being grateful enough to the rich white men

Irony detectors overloading

PB Fogeys would like to point out with our OWN irony meters that the kid wanted Rhodes' statue to be removed despite being funded by a scholarship founded by that very same Rhodes!

flightpath01

Dair said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Aberdeen received £250 million today from David Cameron in a City deal. It cannot do any harm for Ruth Davidson or the Scots Conservatives in the coming Holyrood election, especially in this area of Scotland

£125m from UK government. £350m from the Scottish government.

Westminster's inadequacy is not going unnoticed. I have a feeling that Aberdeen might be replacing Dundee and Glasgow as SNP central.

Where that Nat money is earned from is a moot point. But its good to see the whole UK getting co-ordinated regional funding. Similar deal for Glasgow a year ago. Sheffield Birmingham and Manchester also.
https://www.kpmg.com/AU/en/IssuesAndInsights/ArticlesPublications/Documents/uk-city-deal-economic-growth-productivity.pdf
Brilliant.
Well done the tories. Glad to see the Nats see the sense in it and co-operate. All one strong country together.

Big_G_NorthWales

flightpath01 said:

Dair said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Aberdeen received £250 million today from David Cameron in a City deal. It cannot do any harm for Ruth Davidson or the Scots Conservatives in the coming Holyrood election, especially in this area of Scotland

£125m from UK government. £350m from the Scottish government.

Westminster's inadequacy is not going unnoticed. I have a feeling that Aberdeen might be replacing Dundee and Glasgow as SNP central.

Where that Nat money is earned from is a moot point. But its good to see the whole UK getting co-ordinated regional funding. Similar deal for Glasgow a year ago. Sheffield Birmingham and Manchester also.
https://www.kpmg.com/AU/en/IssuesAndInsights/ArticlesPublications/Documents/uk-city-deal-economic-growth-productivity.pdf
Brilliant.
Well done the tories. Glad to see the Nats see the sense in it and co-operate. All one strong country together.

Well said

Philip_Thompson

EPG said:

PB fogeys will salivate over free speech when it's used to attack Muslims as sex-criminal barbarians, but when it is used to suggest that Rhodes was a bad man, free speech must be punished because its consequences that pro-Rhodes millionaires might be offended

Free speech to suggest Rhodes is bad is perfectly OK.

Trying to whitewash history and suggest only one thought is acceptable is something else.

Mortimer

gettingbetter said:

SeanT said:

Stark_Dawning said:

watford30 said:

Stark_Dawning said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

...

What an unadulterated fiasco.

Clowns running the campaign, jokers running the College.

I bet there was a sharp intake of breath amongst the dons when the 100 million bloke announced he was reconsidering his position.

There was a young man from St John's
Who wanted to bugger the swans
"Oh no," said the porter,
"Please bugger my daughter,
The swans are reserved for the dons"

Very witty

gettingbetter said:

SeanT said:

Stark_Dawning said:

watford30 said:

Stark_Dawning said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Huzzah, Rhodes will NOT fall

Cecil Rhodes statue to remain at Oxford University after alumni threatens to withdraw millions

Exclusive: Threats by alumni to withdraw millions in donations prompted Oriel College decision, leaked documents reveal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

'One of those who has already cancelled their legacy was going to leave a “seven figure sum” and the college is aware that “another major donor is furious with the College… whose legacy could be in excess of £100m”.

Oriel is now preparing to make redundancies among its staff because of the collapse in donations. And it has cancelled an annual fundraising drive that should have taken place in April. It could now make an operating loss of around £200,000 this year.'

What an unadulterated fiasco.

Clowns running the campaign, jokers running the College.

I bet there was a sharp intake of breath amongst the dons when the 100 million bloke announced he was reconsidering his position.

There was a young man from St John's
Who wanted to bugger the swans
"Oh no," said the porter,
"Please bugger my daughter,
The swans are reserved for the dons"

Very witty

'One of Shaws?'

AlastairMeeks

Sunil_Prasannan said:

EPG said:

Much arfing from PB fogeys re Oriel as the millionaires use their money to settle the argument in the fogey direction

PB fogeys say African student should be punished for not being grateful enough to the rich white men

Irony detectors overloading

PB Fogeys would like to point out with our OWN irony meters that the kid wanted Rhodes' statue to be removed despite being funded by a scholarship founded by that very same Rhodes!

As Zsa Zsa Gabor said, "I never hated a man enough to give him diamonds back".

Cookie

TheScreamingEagles said:

MP_SE said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Genius front page of The Sun

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ10WNnUYAUbS36.jpg

I was sorely disappointed by the "amazing picture". I expected it to be more amazing.

Me too.

I don't want to be gratuitously ungallant, but is Worcester-lottery-fraud-gran the roughest person in the public eye since That woman from Leeds who faked the kidnap of her daughter?

Mortimer

People in Calais are NOT in terrible danger.

They're in France. FFS.

Danny565

Loathe though I am to join in the "lefty BBC" brigade, I have to chortle at Question Time managing to find an audience overwhelmingly in favour of letting refugees in in LINCOLNSHIRE (the UKIP heartland) of all places.

flightpath01

another_richard said:

AlastairMeeks said:

http://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/692838593799151616/photo/1

I suspect that the 'wash gran' is more likely to become chav tv royalty than go to jail for attempted fraud.

chav tv... yes a sad indictment of our dumbing down.

EPG

Philip_Thompson said:

EPG said:

PB fogeys will salivate over free speech when it's used to attack Muslims as sex-criminal barbarians, but when it is used to suggest that Rhodes was a bad man, free speech must be punished because its consequences that pro-Rhodes millionaires might be offended

Free speech to suggest Rhodes is bad is perfectly OK.

Trying to whitewash history and suggest only one thought is acceptable is something else.

But this is one of those irregular verbs
I tell it like it is
You use free speech
He bullies and shames

AndyJS

Mortimer said:

People in Calais are NOT in terrible danger.

They're in France. FFS.

Well said. Total denial from the left on this issue, as we've come to expect.

TheScreamingEagles

EPG said:

PB fogeys will salivate over free speech when it's used to attack Muslims as sex-criminal barbarians, but when it is used to suggest that Rhodes was a bad man, free speech must be punished because its consequences that pro-Rhodes millionaires might be offended

That's not the issue, it is simply wrong to judge a man by today's standards (and only to focus on the negatives)

For example we should tear down any statute of Nelson Mandela if we follow that logic.

Worst of all, it has caused me to defend an Oxford college and Oxford University in general.

flightpath01

eek said:

chestnut said:

Apologies if old news, but Havering vote 30-15 to leave EU

Two 25-30s in my home tonight commenced conversation which basically was UK should vote to Leave.

The first is the daughter of Greek Cypriot migrants, the second of Turkish. Both pretty well paid City workers.

We're leaving. If twenty odd year old second generation, city working migrants think it's a shambles, remain has no hope.

Conversation centred on murder and sexual molestation.

I don't think its old news at all. The more the background migrant news continues the more people may decide that leave is a safer option than remain.

The only problem both campaigns have is their omnishambles approach to campaigning...

A self selecting poll of no worth or meaning? Do try to grow up.

Theuniondivvie

Scott_P said:

Wings has just posted this

"If Ms Rowling doesn’t like that, she can sue us instead."

http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-tweets-you-wont-read/

Which of Mr Spanner's use of the word 'cunt' would you describe as not misogynist?

He certainly seems to be backtracking on one example.

https://twitter.com/BrianSpanner1/status/692832509667610624

watford30

Mortimer said:

People in Calais are NOT in terrible danger.

They're in France. FFS.

Perhaps Russia is planning on bombing them?

EPG

TheScreamingEagles said:

EPG said:

PB fogeys will salivate over free speech when it's used to attack Muslims as sex-criminal barbarians, but when it is used to suggest that Rhodes was a bad man, free speech must be punished because its consequences that pro-Rhodes millionaires might be offended

That's not the issue, it is simply wrong to judge a man by today's standards (and only to focus on the negatives)

For example we should tear down any statute of Nelson Mandela if we follow that logic.

Worst of all, it has caused me to defend an Oxford college and Oxford University in general.

The issue seems to be that millionaires can decide the policies of a college and by extension of a university
Which is problematic as it suggests that greed outweighs debate even in a place where the latter is meant to totally outweigh the former
So maybe that is a consolation you can take re your attitude to Oxford? That they are greedy

Mortimer

Glad to see the penny is dropping re: the dangers of encouraging dangerous migration. Lou's applause in the QT audience for the talk of sense rather than emotion.

TheScreamingEagles

Cookie said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MP_SE said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Genius front page of The Sun

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ10WNnUYAUbS36.jpg

I was sorely disappointed by the "amazing picture". I expected it to be more amazing.

Me too.

I don't want to be gratuitously ungallant, but is Worcester-lottery-fraud-gran the roughest person in the public eye since That woman from Leeds who faked the kidnap of her daughter?

You cad, you bounder, you roué.

As someone from the every hole is a goal school, even I have some standards, to be fair, her face must have been taken some battering from all those ten foot barge poles her exes must have used.

williamglenn

rcs1000 said:

HYUFD said:

The poll on the last thread comparing Bloomberg v Hillary and Trump/Cruz is irrelevant as Bloomberg's spokesman made quite clear on CNN he would not run if Hillary is the Democratic nominee, only if Sanders is the Democratic nominee and Trump/Cruz is the GOP candidate

He won't run against Hillary, but if she drops out and they parachute someone else in, he might run against them.

Is it at all conceivable that if Hillary wins the nomination and is then indicted, the Democrats could give Bloomberg a clear run against Trump?

EPG

You'd have to be an utter dick to cut off funding to your alma mater because they took down a statue of Cecil Rhodes. Come on.