''It was, briefly, and then it was swept under the carpet. Anthony Beevor's book caused a massive storm in Russia. ''
The Russians were brutalised by liberating thousands of villages and towns occupied by the Germans. Goodness knows what sights they must have seen, bit even so,
According to Beevor the Russian front line troops were often well behaved. It was the NKVD scum that came behind them that were often the real perpetrators.
Hmmmm.. yes but. The rape of Germany, and not just its women, was Soviet policy and actively encouraged by political officers within the Soviet Army. So yes some frontline troops did behave well but many, possibly the majority, did not. There was of course an element of revenge because the German army when it was going the other way were not exactly nice to the Russian populace, and never mind any nonsense that it was just the SS who were bad boys in that respect, the regular army had very dirty hands too.
Yet, in the West the Germans behaved, on the whole, very well. Probably, with a few notable exceptions, no worse than did the Brits, Canadians, and Americans as they entered Germany. the racial propaganda produced horrid effects.
War turns men into savages, nobody is blameless. What concerns me is the authorities seemingly turning a blind eye to what is going on right now, under our noses. Its time we stopped treating people according to their culture or beliefs and treated everybody equally under the law. As others have pointed out, why the outrage over Hamburg when far worse has and probably still is going on in Rotherham, Oxford etc.
This will end badly, hardly a prescient statement.
"... Its time we stopped treating people according to their culture or beliefs and treated everybody equally under the law ..."
Report for Diversity Training forthwith, Mr. 63. There will you discover that everyone must be treated according to their needs. The whole thing of treating people equally, or God forbid, treating others as you would like to be treated is just disguised racism/homophobia/sexism/islamophobia/transgenderophobia of any other such nonsense.
Sighs and shakes head.
I'm still waiting for those so insistent on gay marriage to protest outside mosques demanding they be married. There are countless examples of laws running parallel with one another, its bloody ridiculous.
It's OK though, German women have now been issued a new "code of conduct", to prevent further mass sexual assaults. From now on German women must travel in groups, not get separated, keep strangers at a distance, and not be too cheerful during carnivals, as it confuses others, sexually.
I kid you not
To be on the safe side, perhaps they should wear burqas, especially if they are young, blonde and pretty.
But equally, since we now know how leader-focussed the average floating voter is, opinion polls now when atleast one (quite possibly both) of the two main party leaders will not still be in post by the next election, are not much use.
You seem very confident JJ will be gone by the GE. The Labour party haven't exactly got a stellar record in removing leaders and the current crop of PLP'ers are utterly spineless.
If Corbyn is as terrible as people say on Labour's electoral prospects, then sooner or later that will be undeniable - there are only so many London Mayoral elections and not-so-bad locals someone that truly terrible could manage. If he is as bad as they say, even famously risk averse Labour will jettison him.
If expected electoral drubbings never emerge to the extent people say, then he might well remain in place, because clearly he won't have been as terrible as people predicted (though probably still too poor to win a GE)
Gordo got poll ratings down to mid 20%'s, lost most of the country in local elections and still nothing...
Labour's lowest poll rating under Brown was 18%. It'll be in Mark's list. For a while in May 2009, Labour was *averaging* in the low 20s.
The difference is that, unlike Corbyn, Brown's power base was very much among MPs, and he had received North Korean levels of support from the PLP in what passed for the leadership "contest"; few politicians are going to publicly eat humble pie and admit they made the wrong decision just a couple of years earlier. But with Corbyn, needless to say that for the vast majority of the PLP it would not involve eating humble pie for them to say Corbyn had to go.
Oh, indeed. But there still remains the question of 'how'? They also need to be sure that the membership and friends won't put him or someone like him back.
Sure, but my point is more addressed to the people asking why the PLP aren't "doing something" to remove Corbyn. The reality is they have no ability to do something unless/until they get the agreement of the membership. It's not a question of willingness or "spine".
Article with first hand accounts from Germany's biggest feminist magazine. Pretty awful stuff.
This story has completely exploded in Germany, now. Dominating everything. Possibly a gamechanger for German politics long term.
It looks like German feminists aren't as stupid as ours and won't let this be filed under "cultural enrichment" like they did for the countless child rapes in Rotherham.
I really hope the women band together and sue the state.
Jeremy Corbyn is in the middle of the longest reshuffle in living memory - but could you do any better at picking a top political team?
We got so bored of waiting for the Labour leader to pick his new front bench, we thought we'd give you the chance to reshuffle David Cameron 's cabinet.
So we've come up with a little game for you.
As each Tory minister shows up below, give them the thumbs up or the thumbs down based on how good a job you think they're doing.
It's OK though, German women have now been issued a new "code of conduct", to prevent further mass sexual assaults. From now on German women must travel in groups, not get separated, keep strangers at a distance, and not be too cheerful during carnivals, as it confuses others, sexually.
I kid you not
To be on the safe side, perhaps they should wear burqas, especially if they are young, blonde and pretty.
It's OK though, German women have now been issued a new "code of conduct", to prevent further mass sexual assaults. From now on German women must travel in groups, not get separated, keep strangers at a distance, and not be too cheerful during carnivals, as it confuses others, sexually.
How long can the EU's deranged open borders policy survive the rate of arrivals from places whose moral standards are, shall we say, slightly different from our own?
But equally, since we now know how leader-focussed the average floating voter is, opinion polls now when atleast one (quite possibly both) of the two main party leaders will not still be in post by the next election, are not much use.
You seem very confident JJ will be gone by the GE. The Labour party haven't exactly got a stellar record in removing leaders and the current crop of PLP'ers are utterly spineless.
If Corbyn is as terrible as people say on Labour's electoral prospects, then sooner or later that will be undeniable - there are only so many London Mayoral elections and not-so-bad locals someone that truly terrible could manage. If he is as bad as they say, even famously risk averse Labour will jettison him.
If expected electoral drubbings never emerge to the extent people say, then he might well remain in place, because clearly he won't have been as terrible as people predicted (though probably still too poor to win a GE)
Gordo got poll ratings down to mid 20%'s, lost most of the country in local elections and still nothing...
If Corbyn can match Brown, he'll have done better than most people expect.
SNP bloke burbling on about concrete action on Iran and Saudi - what's he suggesting ?
He does like focusing on Foreign Affairs I've noticed. Probably a good strategy. Doesn't look too partisan, and most people have no idea what to do anywhere, so it doesn't matter if Cameron has a strategy, or if the SNP do, and if it is any good.
But equally, since we now know how leader-focussed the average floating voter is, opinion polls now when atleast one (quite possibly both) of the two main party leaders will not still be in post by the next election, are not much use.
You seem very confident JJ will be gone by the GE. The Labour party haven't exactly got a stellar record in removing leaders and the current crop of PLP'ers are utterly spineless.
If Corbyn is as terrible as people say on Labour's electoral prospects, then sooner or later that will be undeniable - there are only so many London Mayoral elections and not-so-bad locals someone that truly terrible could manage. If he is as bad as they say, even famously risk averse Labour will jettison him.
If expected electoral drubbings never emerge to the extent people say, then he might well remain in place, because clearly he won't have been as terrible as people predicted (though probably still too poor to win a GE)
Gordo got poll ratings down to mid 20%'s, lost most of the country in local elections and still nothing...
Labour's lowest poll rating under Brown was 18%. It'll be in Mark's list. For a while in May 2009, Labour was *averaging* in the low 20s.
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Oh, indeed. But there still remains the question of 'how'? They also need to be sure that the membership and friends won't put him or someone like him back.
Sure, but my point is more addressed to the people asking why the PLP aren't "doing something" to remove Corbyn. The reality is they have no ability to do something unless/until they get the agreement of the membership. It's not a question of willingness or "spine".
They can't remove him at this stage. They can make his life bloody difficult in the hope he folds I suppose. There best plan would be to slowly create a new centre of gravity around one or two figures on the back benches who look like the alternative and roll up their sleeves and rethink what the Labour party needs to be in mid 21st century. It will be a very long slog. But what few people seem to remember or give credit for is the astonishing levels of work that Brown and Blair put in to get to a position where one of them was the obvious next leader. Hours and hours bullet-proofing policies and haranguing Tory ministers late into the night. Constant debates with people like Philip Gould who understood polling and message. Press releases pouring off fax machines etc etc.
It's OK though, German women have now been issued a new "code of conduct", to prevent further mass sexual assaults. From now on German women must travel in groups, not get separated, keep strangers at a distance, and not be too cheerful during carnivals, as it confuses others, sexually.
How long can the EU's deranged open borders policy survive the rate of arrivals from places whose moral standards are, shall we say, slightly different from our own?
It's OK though, German women have now been issued a new "code of conduct", to prevent further mass sexual assaults. From now on German women must travel in groups, not get separated, keep strangers at a distance, and not be too cheerful during carnivals, as it confuses others, sexually.
What is particularly disturbing is that the attacks appear to have been organised. Around 1,000 young men arrived in large groups, seemingly with the specific intention of carrying out attacks on women.
It's OK though, German women have now been issued a new "code of conduct", to prevent further mass sexual assaults. From now on German women must travel in groups, not get separated, keep strangers at a distance, and not be too cheerful during carnivals, as it confuses others, sexually.
How long can the EU's deranged open borders policy survive the rate of arrivals from places whose moral standards are, shall we say, slightly different from our own?
Was it not 40 years ago, that the young woman who is now Federal Chancellor was able to wander on German beaches without a care in the world, or her clothes.
I suppose that new guidelines will be issued for women not to copy her example.
''It was, briefly, and then it was swept under the carpet. Anthony Beevor's book caused a massive storm in Russia. ''
The Russians were brutalised by liberating thousands of villages and towns occupied by the Germans. Goodness knows what sights they must have seen, bit even so,
According to Beevor the Russian front line troops were often well behaved. It was the NKVD scum that came behind them that were often the real perpetrators.
Hmmmm.. yes but. The rape of Germany, and not just its women, was Soviet policy and actively encouraged by political officers within the Soviet Army. So yes some frontline troops did behave well but many, possibly the majority, did not. There was of course an element of revenge because the German army when it was going the other way were not exactly nice to the Russian populace, and never mind any nonsense that it was just the SS who were bad boys in that respect, the regular army had very dirty hands too.
Yet, in the West the Germans behaved, on the whole, very well. Probably, with a few notable exceptions, no worse than did the Brits, Canadians, and Americans as they entered Germany. the racial propaganda produced horrid effects.
War turns men into savages, nobody is blameless. What concerns me is the authorities seemingly turning a blind eye to what is going on right now, under our noses. Its time we stopped treating people according to their culture or beliefs and treated everybody equally under the law. As others have pointed out, why the outrage over Hamburg when far worse has and probably still is going on in Rotherham, Oxford etc.
This will end badly, hardly a prescient statement.
Rose tinted spectacles, I think.
Stalin and Lenin, in addition to Hitler, were savages long before they were at war.
They needed to invent wars in their own heads to justify brutalising their own people, never mind their enemies.
@paulwaugh: Hilary Benn is still Shadow Foreign Secretary "at the moment", Labour spksman says. Will remain so for Commons statement on Saudi. #ticktock
@rosschawkins: .@RobDotHutton asks Corbyn Spox re reshuffle: do you have any guidance as to in what month you'll move towards a statement?
Why does it bother outsiders ? It is a Labour party matter. When the time comes announcement(s) will be made. If it is in March, it will be in March. It certainly is not anyone else.
It is no good journalists complaining that the Labour reshuffle is taking too long. It is proceeding at a proper pace and will be published as an appendix to the Chilcot report. Malcolm Muggeridge once said that one of the pleasures of old age is giving things up. Mr Corbyn long ago gave up competence and decisiveness.
''It was, briefly, and then it was swept under the carpet. Anthony Beevor's book caused a massive storm in Russia. ''
The Russians were brutalised by liberating thousands of villages and towns occupied by the Germans. Goodness knows what sights they must have seen, bit even so,
According to Beevor the Russian front line troops were often well behaved. It was the NKVD scum that came behind them that were often the real perpetrators.
Hmmmm.. yes but. The rape of Germany, and not just its women, was Soviet policy and actively encouraged by political officers within the Soviet Army. So yes some frontline troops did behave well but many, possibly the majority, did not. There was of course an element of revenge because the German army when it was going the other way were not exactly nice to the Russian populace, and never mind any nonsense that it was just the SS who were bad boys in that respect, the regular army had very dirty hands too.
Yet, in the West the Germans behaved, on the whole, very well. Probably, with a few notable exceptions, no worse than did the Brits, Canadians, and Americans as they entered Germany. the racial propaganda produced horrid effects.
War turns men into savages, nobody is blameless. What concerns me is the authorities seemingly turning a blind eye to what is going on right now, under our noses. Its time we stopped treating people according to their culture or beliefs and treated everybody equally under the law. As others have pointed out, why the outrage over Hamburg when far worse has and probably still is going on in Rotherham, Oxford etc.
This will end badly, hardly a prescient statement.
Rose tinted spectacles, I think.
Stalin and Lenin, in addition to Hitler, were savages long before they were at war.
They needed to invent wars in their own heads to justify brutalising their own people, never mind their enemies.
I'm sorry that's ridiculous, Hitler and Stalin may have been savages but the thousands of Germans and Russians weren't until they put on a uniform.
@paulwaugh: Hilary Benn is still Shadow Foreign Secretary "at the moment", Labour spksman says. Will remain so for Commons statement on Saudi. #ticktock
Simply amazing
Why ? Unless otherwise announced, Benn is the Shadow Foreign Secretary. What is amazing about that ? Are there any red boxes to read and papers to sign ? No, there are none.
@rosschawkins: .@RobDotHutton asks Corbyn Spox re reshuffle: do you have any guidance as to in what month you'll move towards a statement?
Why does it bother outsiders ? It is a Labour party matter. When the time comes announcement(s) will be made. If it is in March, it will be in March. It certainly is not anyone else.
It doesn't bother outsiders. Quite the opposite, it is hugely entertaining.
It's OK though, German women have now been issued a new "code of conduct", to prevent further mass sexual assaults. From now on German women must travel in groups, not get separated, keep strangers at a distance, and not be too cheerful during carnivals, as it confuses others, sexually.
How long can the EU's deranged open borders policy survive the rate of arrivals from places whose moral standards are, shall we say, slightly different from our own?
The descriptions of what happened in Cologne and elsewhere are just grotesque. Crowds of men slowly circling terrified women, calling them "slut", "whore", "bitch" and "you wanna f*ck" etc, then moving closer, then assaulting and robbing and groping, and even raping. And this happened over many hours, involving hundreds of victims.
We have imported medieval misogyny on an industrial scale. Bleak.
It's OK though, German women have now been issued a new "code of conduct", to prevent further mass sexual assaults. From now on German women must travel in groups, not get separated, keep strangers at a distance, and not be too cheerful during carnivals, as it confuses others, sexually.
How long can the EU's deranged open borders policy survive the rate of arrivals from places whose moral standards are, shall we say, slightly different from our own?
The borders have been open across Europe for many decades. If you'd driven from Brussels to Rome in 1980 it is highly unlikely you would have had to have shown your passport along the way,
The problem here is that the German government has recklessly encouraged millions of people, with radically different cultures and standards of behaviour, to come to Europe.
@rosschawkins: .@RobDotHutton asks Corbyn Spox re reshuffle: do you have any guidance as to in what month you'll move towards a statement?
Why does it bother outsiders ? It is a Labour party matter. When the time comes announcement(s) will be made. If it is in March, it will be in March. It certainly is not anyone else.
You can't have your chaps hyping the reshuffle to journo's then complain when they want to report it.
What is particularly disturbing is that the attacks appear to have been organised. Around 1,000 young men arrived in large groups, seemingly with the specific intention of carrying out attacks on women.
If the BBC are saying "it appears to have been organized", it is absolutely nailed on it was.
I have been to Cologne a number of times with a lady friend and never had anything but good experiences.
Edit: Actually no, one bar owner took exception to my bad German and decided to make me wait for a table.
Yes - but if the BBC report is to be believed (something to speculate about) then 80 women were molested at the railway station with 'at least one' raped and 'many' groped. 'most crimes reported were robberies'
This may be wrong - it which case the people in charge of BBC news should be sacked. However from the reports of the reports I have been reading here I was under the impression that hundreds of women had been raped in one night in Cologne. You suggest - quite plausibly - that the worrying aspect is 1000 men turning up. But the events happened at a railway station. Isn't this where people turn up?
One of the great scandals that happen in Japan is the groping and molestation of women on their crowded buses and railways. There were reports about this some months ago. This thing is not a muslim only affair. There is a similar scandal in India. This event in Cologne is clearly serious, disgraceful - you name it. But - as ever - shouldn't we be commenting on what actually happened, not what hysterically some people might like to have happened? I do not think our outrage would be much affected.
@paulwaugh: Hilary Benn is still Shadow Foreign Secretary "at the moment", Labour spksman says. Will remain so for Commons statement on Saudi. #ticktock
Simply amazing
And this from a Labour spokesman? – It’s as though they want keep this cluster of a reshuffle front and centre of the next news cycle. Milne has some very odd ideas how to run things.
It's OK though, German women have now been issued a new "code of conduct", to prevent further mass sexual assaults. From now on German women must travel in groups, not get separated, keep strangers at a distance, and not be too cheerful during carnivals, as it confuses others, sexually.
How long can the EU's deranged open borders policy survive the rate of arrivals from places whose moral standards are, shall we say, slightly different from our own?
The descriptions of what happened in Cologne and elsewhere are just grotesque. Crowds of men slowly circling terrified women, calling them "slut", "whore", "bitch" and "you wanna f*ck" etc, then moving closer, then assaulting and robbing and groping, and even raping. And this happened over many hours, involving hundreds of victims.
We have imported medieval misogyny on an industrial scale. Bleak.
Maybe it's time for patriotic young German men to escort the fairer sex, so that they no longer have to endure such grotesque attacks in public. Maybe these men could patrol the streets. And to show they are available for such an altruistic purpose, maybe they could all wear a garment that shows this.
What is particularly disturbing is that the attacks appear to have been organised. Around 1,000 young men arrived in large groups, seemingly with the specific intention of carrying out attacks on women.
If the BBC are saying "it appears to have been organized", it is absolutely nailed on it was.
I have been to Cologne a number of times with a lady friend and never had anything but good experiences.
Edit: Actually no, one bar owner took exception to my bad German and decided to make me wait for a table.
Yes - but if the BBC report is to be believed (something to speculate about) then 80 women were molested at the railway station with 'at least one' raped and 'many' groped. 'most crimes reported were robberies'
This may be wrong - it which case the people in charge of BBC news should be sacked. However from the reports of the reports I have been reading here I was under the impression that hundreds of women had been raped in one night in Cologne. You suggest - quite plausibly - that the worrying aspect is 1000 men turning up. But the events happened at a railway station. Isn't this where people turn up?
One of the great scandals that happen in Japan is the groping and molestation of women on their crowded buses and railways. There were reports about this some months ago. This thing is not a muslim only affair. There is a similar scandal in India. This event in Cologne is clearly serious, disgraceful - you name it. But - as ever - shouldn't we be commenting on what actually happened, not what hysterically some people might like to have happened? I do not think our outrage would be much affected.
I'll comment on what happened, it is utterly disgraceful and I hope the perpetrators are arrested and charged regardless of who they are.
It's OK though, German women have now been issued a new "code of conduct", to prevent further mass sexual assaults. From now on German women must travel in groups, not get separated, keep strangers at a distance, and not be too cheerful during carnivals, as it confuses others, sexually.
How long can the EU's deranged open borders policy survive the rate of arrivals from places whose moral standards are, shall we say, slightly different from our own?
The borders have been open across Europe for many decades. If you'd driven from Brussels to Rome in 1980 it is highly unlikely you would have had to have shown your passport along the way,
The problem here is that the German government has recklessly encouraged millions of people, with radically different cultures and standards of behaviour, to come to Europe.
It's OK though, German women have now been issued a new "code of conduct", to prevent further mass sexual assaults. From now on German women must travel in groups, not get separated, keep strangers at a distance, and not be too cheerful during carnivals, as it confuses others, sexually.
How long can the EU's deranged open borders policy survive the rate of arrivals from places whose moral standards are, shall we say, slightly different from our own?
The borders have been open across Europe for many decades. If you'd driven from Brussels to Rome in 1980 it is highly unlikely you would have had to have shown your passport along the way,
The problem here is that the German government has recklessly encouraged millions of people, with radically different cultures and standards of behaviour, to come to Europe.
@rosschawkins: .@RobDotHutton asks Corbyn Spox re reshuffle: do you have any guidance as to in what month you'll move towards a statement?
Why does it bother outsiders ? It is a Labour party matter. When the time comes announcement(s) will be made. If it is in March, it will be in March. It certainly is not anyone else.
Are outsiders permitted to laugh? (Are insiders permitted to laugh?)
''It was, briefly, and then it was swept under the carpet. Anthony Beevor's book caused a massive storm in Russia. ''
The Russians were brutalised by liberating thousands of villages and towns occupied by the Germans. Goodness knows what sights they must have seen, bit even so,
According to Beevor the Russian front line troops were often well behaved. It was the NKVD scum that came behind them that were often the real perpetrators.
Hmmmm.. yes but. The rape of Germany, and not just its women, was Soviet policy and actively encouraged by political officers within the Soviet Army. So yes some frontline troops did behave well but many, possibly the majority, did not. There was of course an element of revenge because the German army when it was going the other way were not exactly nice to the Russian populace, and never mind any nonsense that it was just the SS who were bad boys in that respect, the regular army had very dirty hands too.
Yet, in the West the Germans behaved, on the whole, very well. Probably, with a few notable exceptions, no worse than did the Brits, Canadians, and Americans as they entered Germany. the racial propaganda produced horrid effects.
War turns men into savages, nobody is blameless. What concerns me is the authorities seemingly turning a blind eye to what is going on right now, under our noses. Its time we stopped treating people according to their culture or beliefs and treated everybody equally under the law. As others have pointed out, why the outrage over Hamburg when far worse has and probably still is going on in Rotherham, Oxford etc.
This will end badly, hardly a prescient statement.
Rose tinted spectacles, I think.
Stalin and Lenin, in addition to Hitler, were savages long before they were at war.
They needed to invent wars in their own heads to justify brutalising their own people, never mind their enemies.
I'm sorry that's ridiculous, Hitler and Stalin may have been savages but the thousands of Germans and Russians weren't until they put on a uniform.
No, sorry this is not wholly correct. Anti-semitism was widespread in German society before Hitler came to power (as it was in other european and Russian states). Much of the killing and pogroms that took place in Poland, Ukraine etc were actually undertaken by local citizens for a variety of reasons including pure revenge, anti-semitism, a change to grab property, petty neighbourly hatreds and in a number of situations as a way of proving they weren't guilty of previous collaborations (e.g. when Ukraine changed hands).
The cap fits though, doesn't it? The interesting thing I suppose is not Heseltine's predictable geriatric vapourings but that Major let his mask of reasonableness slip so carelessly.
'No10 says Cameron decided to grant ministerial freedom on Brexit "a number of weeks ago" and explained it privately to some ministers'
Just a pity for Major and Hezza that the briefing didn't extend to them. Makes them look like a right pair of muppets.
Why on earth would you expect these two long-retired politicians to be briefed? They simply expressed their opinions, which of course they are perfectly entitled to do.
"Elsewhere in the refugee crisis, just-updated European Commission numbers show of the 160,000 migrants who were to be relocated across the EU, the total to date is just 272. At least they’ve convinced 4 to move to Lithuania."
All that political capital spent on browbeating the eastern European countries, and for what?
One of my all time favourites is "An Irish Airman foresees his death".
"I know that I shall meet my fate. Somewhere in the skies above. Those that I fight I do not hate. Those that I guard I do not love."
Yeats is a great poet. But there is so much poetry in the English language, even outside formal poems. And the great advantage of learning poetry and learning to speak it is that you get attuned to the rhythm, the musicality of English. And, if you do, it makes you a better speaker, a better writer.
Language and music go together. I wince when I hear some of the clod-hopping mangling perpetrated by some of our public speakers. It really should not be possible to mess up English, given what a wonderfully painterly, vivid and muscular language it is.
One of my favorite poems (and poets) as well: Kiltartan Cross.
"My country is Kiltartan Cross, My countrymen Kiltartan's poor, No likely end could bring them loss Or leave them happier than before."
The whole thing is a joy. The last lines are wonderful.
"I balanced all, brought all to mind, The years to come seemed waste of breath, A waste of breath the years behind In balance with this life, this death."
I still have my Big Book of English poetry from primary school. There is some wonderful stuff in there.
And of course the King James' Bible is pure poetry. Whoever decided to replace it with the telephone directory style modern version should be put in one of Dante's Seven Circles of Hell.
What is particularly disturbing is that the attacks appear to have been organised. Around 1,000 young men arrived in large groups, seemingly with the specific intention of carrying out attacks on women.
If the BBC are saying "it appears to have been organized", it is absolutely nailed on it was.
I have been to Cologne a number of times with a lady friend and never had anything but good experiences.
Edit: Actually no, one bar owner took exception to my bad German and decided to make me wait for a table.
Yes - but if the BBC report is to be believed (something to speculate about) then 80 women were molested at the railway station with 'at least one' raped and 'many' groped. 'most crimes reported were robberies'
This may be wrong - it which case the people in charge of BBC news should be sacked. However from the reports of the reports I have been reading here I was under the impression that hundreds of women had been raped in one night in Cologne. You suggest - quite plausibly - that the worrying aspect is 1000 men turning up. But the events happened at a railway station. Isn't this where people turn up?
One of the great scandals that happen in Japan is the groping and molestation of women on their crowded buses and railways. There were reports about this some months ago. This thing is not a muslim only affair. There is a similar scandal in India. This event in Cologne is clearly serious, disgraceful - you name it. But - as ever - shouldn't we be commenting on what actually happened, not what hysterically some people might like to have happened? I do not think our outrage would be much affected.
If you fail to see a link between Islam's innate misogyny - for that is what it is - and what happened in Germany, then you are literally retarded.
But I don't think you are retarded - I think that, for whatever reason, you just can't bear to see what is right there in front of your face, so you have gone into the most contorted state of denial.
It's sad.
You are sad to spout such rubbish. I can well see the the misogyny link - do I not use the word 'disgraceful'. Do I not point to similar occurrences in Japan and India? Islam is a religion locked into the middle ages. Thankfully our version of Christianity emerged from that centuries ago. Religious diktat needs to be replaced by democracy everywhere.
What I am commenting about is forming opinions based on facts not promulgating hysteria a la Mike Ks usual trawl of the internet. You like to pretend you were a journalist once - don't facts matter? If the BBCs interpretation on this significant event is wrong and or misleading then its news bosses should be sacked.
One of my all time favourites is "An Irish Airman foresees his death".
"I know that I shall meet my fate. Somewhere in the skies above. Those that I fight I do not hate. Those that I guard I do not love."
Yeats is a great poet. But there is so much poetry in the English language, even outside formal poems. And the great advantage of learning poetry and learning to speak it is that you get attuned to the rhythm, the musicality of English. And, if you do, it makes you a better speaker, a better writer.
Language and music go together. I wince when I hear some of the clod-hopping mangling perpetrated by some of our public speakers. It really should not be possible to mess up English, given what a wonderfully painterly, vivid and muscular language it is.
One of my favorite poems (and poets) as well: Kiltartan Cross.
"My country is Kiltartan Cross, My countrymen Kiltartan's poor, No likely end could bring them loss Or leave them happier than before."
The whole thing is a joy. The last lines are wonderful.
"I balanced all, brought all to mind, The years to come seemed waste of breath, A waste of breath the years behind In balance with this life, this death."
I still have my Big Book of English poetry from primary school. There is some wonderful stuff in there.
And of course the King James' Bible is pure poetry. Whoever decided to replace it with the telephone directory style modern version should be put in one of Dante's Seven Circles of Hell.
It's OK though, German women have now been issued a new "code of conduct", to prevent further mass sexual assaults. From now on German women must travel in groups, not get separated, keep strangers at a distance, and not be too cheerful during carnivals, as it confuses others, sexually.
How long can the EU's deranged open borders policy survive the rate of arrivals from places whose moral standards are, shall we say, slightly different from our own?
The borders have been open across Europe for many decades. If you'd driven from Brussels to Rome in 1980 it is highly unlikely you would have had to have shown your passport along the way,
The problem here is that the German government has recklessly encouraged millions of people, with radically different cultures and standards of behaviour, to come to Europe.
You have summed it all up. Is it 'millions'?
Tens if not hundreds of millions have been encouraged by Merkel's stupidity. Millions came in 2015 alone. Well over a million to Germany.
And of course the King James' Bible is pure poetry. Whoever decided to replace it with the telephone directory style modern version should be put in one of Dante's Seven Circles of Hell.
Even more true of the Book of Common Prayer. I find modern C of E services painful to listen to, like music sung out of tune.
It's not as though the modern versions even work in their own terms. If they really wanted to use contemporary forms of expression, the service would go something like this:
"Elsewhere in the refugee crisis, just-updated European Commission numbers show of the 160,000 migrants who were to be relocated across the EU, the total to date is just 272. At least they’ve convinced 4 to move to Lithuania."
All that political capital spent on browbeating the eastern European countries, and for what?
To make my position perfectly clear - none of them should be relocated. They should all remain in refugee camps in Turkey.
@rosschawkins: .@RobDotHutton asks Corbyn Spox re reshuffle: do you have any guidance as to in what month you'll move towards a statement?
Why does it bother outsiders ? It is a Labour party matter. When the time comes announcement(s) will be made. If it is in March, it will be in March. It certainly is not anyone else.
I am not worried whether it is March or June.
More importantly is the YEAR>
PS: I read PB - as I am interested in politics. Surprisingly enough, the Labour Party is part of the UK political scene.. I know it's hard to realise any sentient being could be interested in a bunch of losers lead by Corbyn but humoue me as I'm an old man and laughter is good for me..
One of my all time favourites is "An Irish Airman foresees his death".
"I know that I shall meet my fate. Somewhere in the skies above. Those that I fight I do not hate. Those that I guard I do not love."
Yeats is a great poet. But there is so much poetry in the English language, even outside formal poems. And the great advantage of learning poetry and learning to speak it is that you get attuned to the rhythm, the musicality of English. And, if you do, it makes you a better speaker, a better writer.
Language and music go together. I wince when I hear some of the clod-hopping mangling perpetrated by some of our public speakers. It really should not be possible to mess up English, given what a wonderfully painterly, vivid and muscular language it is.
One of my favorite poems (and poets) as well: Kiltartan Cross.
"My country is Kiltartan Cross, My countrymen Kiltartan's poor, No likely end could bring them loss Or leave them happier than before."
The whole thing is a joy. The last lines are wonderful.
"I balanced all, brought all to mind, The years to come seemed waste of breath, A waste of breath the years behind In balance with this life, this death."
I still have my Big Book of English poetry from primary school. There is some wonderful stuff in there.
And of course the King James' Bible is pure poetry. Whoever decided to replace it with the telephone directory style modern version should be put in one of Dante's Seven Circles of Hell.
The King James Bible was largely based on Tyndale's earlier (incomplete) version. It's incredible to think that one man should be responsible for so much wonderful writing.
And of course the King James' Bible is pure poetry. Whoever decided to replace it with the telephone directory style modern version should be put in one of Dante's Seven Circles of Hell.
Even more true of the Book of Common Prayer. I find modern C of E services painful to listen to, like music sung out of tune.
It's not as though the modern versions even work in their own terms. If they really wanted to use contemporary forms of expression, the service would go something like this:
"The Lord be with you"
"And with you too, mate".
That's very true. The new liturgy introduced a painfully stilted form of modern speech that has become an Anglican trademark.
I am an atheist, but there is something incredibly moving about the old service for the burial of the dead, knowing that the same words have been said over graves for centuries past.
"Elsewhere in the refugee crisis, just-updated European Commission numbers show of the 160,000 migrants who were to be relocated across the EU, the total to date is just 272. At least they’ve convinced 4 to move to Lithuania."
All that political capital spent on browbeating the eastern European countries, and for what?
To make my position perfectly clear - none of them should be relocated. They should all remain in refugee camps in Turkey.
Nice idea. And the ones who have already reached Europe? Turkey cannot be compelled to take them back under international law.
They say UK productivity has been falling. I don't know if that is actually true or not, it JJ is definitely providing good solid anecdotal evidence of this. 3 days (at least) just to shuffle a few people around.
@rosschawkins: .@RobDotHutton asks Corbyn Spox re reshuffle: do you have any guidance as to in what month you'll move towards a statement?
Why does it bother outsiders ? It is a Labour party matter. When the time comes announcement(s) will be made. If it is in March, it will be in March. It certainly is not anyone else.
It's funny, that's all. Other issues are pretty minor to be frank, and if he wants to outright troll the media by taking a long time, that's fine, but I also think it's fine for the people who's job it is to cover these things getting irritated or snarky about it.
What is particularly disturbing is that the attacks appear to have been organised. Around 1,000 young men arrived in large groups, seemingly with the specific intention of carrying out attacks on women.
If the BBC are saying "it appears to have been organized", it is absolutely nailed on it was.
I have been to Cologne a number of times with a lady friend and never had anything but good experiences.
Edit: Actually no, one bar owner took exception to my bad German and decided to make me wait for a table.
Yes - but if the BBC report is to be believed (something to speculate about) then 80 women were molested at the railway station with 'at least one' raped and 'many' groped. 'most crimes reported were robberies'
This may be wrong - it which case the people in charge of BBC news should be sacked. However from the reports of the reports I have been reading here I was under the impression that hundreds of women had been raped in one night in Cologne. You suggest - quite plausibly - that the worrying aspect is 1000 men turning up. But the events happened at a railway station. Isn't this where people turn up?
One of the great scandals that happen in Japan is the groping and molestation of women on their crowded buses and railways. There were reports about this some months ago. This thing is not a muslim only affair. There is a similar scandal in India. This event in Cologne is clearly serious, disgraceful - you name it. But - as ever - shouldn't we be commenting on what actually happened, not what hysterically some people might like to have happened? I do not think our outrage would be much affected.
What you seem to be deliberately missing is that this is what is happening to us (as Europeans also exposed to mass immigration from MENA), whereas what happens in India and Japan is happening to others. Of course all horrors are equally abhorrent, regardless of victim, and multiple cultures can commit the same horrors. But the one we have to deal with is the one associated, it appears, to immigrants from MENA. And based on the facts, there is a cultural link to the misogyny inherent in Islam as currently practiced in much of the MENA region as to why this behaviour - unacceptable in our culture - seems acceptable to some of those we are letting in.
Creating a response based on the facts has to involve facing uncomfortable facts. Whether a segment of Indian and Japanese men are equally horrible has no bearing per se on the most appropriate way to deal with the problem on our own doorstep.
''Do I not point to similar occurrences in Japan and India? Islam is a religion locked into the middle ages.''
Surely the point is the German government had the choice to put their own citizens in the front line against these people or not. It's not a problem they inherited.
@rosschawkins: .@RobDotHutton asks Corbyn Spox re reshuffle: do you have any guidance as to in what month you'll move towards a statement?
Why does it bother outsiders ? It is a Labour party matter. When the time comes announcement(s) will be made. If it is in March, it will be in March. It certainly is not anyone else.
It doesn't bother outsiders, it amuses them. Corbyn, is without doubt the most incompetent leader of any political party in living memory. He makes IDS, look like JFK.
What happened near German railway stations on New Year's Eve was probably "organised" in the self-organised way that facebook etc enables. Similar atrocities had earlier been happening in Sweden on a smaller scale, but these have been in large part unreported by the politically correct Swedish press. Mrs Merkel has called for a hard response from the authorities without regard to where the perpetrators come from or what their background is. http://www.rp-online.de/nrw/staedte/koeln/angela-merkel-fordert-harte-antwort-des-rechtsstaats-aid-1.5669919 However the article ends with "little is known about the perpetrators"!
What happened near German railway stations on New Year's Eve was probably "organised" in the self-organised way that facebook etc enables. Similar atrocities had earlier been happening in Sweden on a smaller scale, but these have been in large part unreported by the politically correct Swedish press. Mrs Merkel has called for a hard response from the authorities without regard to where the perpetrators come from or what their background is. http://www.rp-online.de/nrw/staedte/koeln/angela-merkel-fordert-harte-antwort-des-rechtsstaats-aid-1.5669919 However the article ends with "little is known about the perpetrators"!
Well lets hope with a bit of German efficiency they work out who was responsible. I presume if a lot of this was posted on social media that would be a good start + mobile phone data.
What is particularly disturbing is that the attacks appear to have been organised. Around 1,000 young men arrived in large groups, seemingly with the specific intention of carrying out attacks on women.
If the BBC are saying "it appears to have been organized", it is absolutely nailed on it was.
I have been to Cologne a number of times with a lady friend and never had anything but good experiences.
Edit: Actually no, one bar owner took exception to my bad German and decided to make me wait for a table.
Yes - but if the BBC report is to be believed (something to speculate about) then 80 women were molested at the railway station with 'at least one' raped and 'many' groped. 'most crimes reported were robberies'
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You are sad to spout such rubbish. I can well see the the misogyny link - do I not use the word 'disgraceful'. Do I not point to similar occurrences in Japan and India? Islam is a religion locked into the middle ages. Thankfully our version of Christianity emerged from that centuries ago. Religious diktat needs to be replaced by democracy everywhere.
What I am commenting about is forming opinions based on facts not promulgating hysteria a la Mike Ks usual trawl of the internet. You like to pretend you were a journalist once - don't facts matter? If the BBCs interpretation on this significant event is wrong and or misleading then its news bosses should be sacked.
Well, you could try reading?
Here is the BBC report. It is not misleading. Having now seen quite a few authoritative German reports - from Spiegel and FAZ etc - the BBC account seems fairly low key and certainly not inflammatory. It just states many of the facts.
You could try reading - my comment was based on that report which says 1 woman was raped and many groped out of a group of 80 at the railway station. This is terrible shocking and a disgrace. It shows a low regard for women by the perpetrators who are north african arab muslim, take your pick. It seems to me such low regard is also prevalent in India (lovely tourist destination) and Japan (nice civilised country). From the comments on here I formed an opinion that scores of women, 100's had been raped by marauding bands of 1000's of muslim men probably from Syria. If this last point is true than the BBC news chiefs should be sacked.
@rosschawkins: .@RobDotHutton asks Corbyn Spox re reshuffle: do you have any guidance as to in what month you'll move towards a statement?
Why does it bother outsiders ? It is a Labour party matter. When the time comes announcement(s) will be made. If it is in March, it will be in March. It certainly is not anyone else.
It doesn't bother outsiders, it amuses them. Corbyn, is without doubt the most incompetent leader of any political party in living memory. He makes IDS, look like JFK.
I agree, it does not bother outsiders, as in emotionally upset them. But that does not mean that outsiders have no skin in the game. Rather, impressions of the LOTO's competence to lead and make decisions under pressure are very much factors on which it is appropriate for all voters to form an opinion.
What happened near German railway stations on New Year's Eve was probably "organised" in the self-organised way that facebook etc enables. Similar atrocities had earlier been happening in Sweden on a smaller scale, but these have been in large part unreported by the politically correct Swedish press. Mrs Merkel has called for a hard response from the authorities without regard to where the perpetrators come from or what their background is. http://www.rp-online.de/nrw/staedte/koeln/angela-merkel-fordert-harte-antwort-des-rechtsstaats-aid-1.5669919 However the article ends with "little is known about the perpetrators"!
Well lets hope with a bit of German efficiency they work out who was responsible. I presume if a lot of this was posted on social media that would be a good start + mobile phone data.
Not to worry, they get to do it all again as Karneval kicks off in the Rhineland. What with three days of crowds getting pissed in Cologne and a woman;s day 4th February it should be a total riot this year.
What is particularly disturbing is that the attacks appear to have been organised. Around 1,000 young men arrived in large groups, seemingly with the specific intention of carrying out attacks on women.
If the BBC are saying "it appears to have been organized", it is absolutely nailed on it was.
I have been to Cologne a number of times with a lady friend and never had anything but good experiences.
Edit: Actually no, one bar owner took exception to my bad German and decided to make me wait for a table.
Yes - but if the BBC report is to be believed (something to speculate about) then 80 women were molested at the railway station with 'at least one' raped and 'many' groped. 'most crimes reported were robberies'
This may be wrong - it which case the people in charge of BBC news should be sacked. However from the reports of the reports I have been reading here I was under the impression that hundreds of women had been raped in one night in Cologne. You suggest - quite plausibly - that the worrying aspect is 1000 men turning up. But the events happened at a railway station. Isn't this where people turn up?
One of the great scandals that happen in Japan is the groping and molestation of women on their crowded buses and railways. There were reports about this some months ago. This thing is not a muslim only affair. There is a similar scandal in India. This event in Cologne is clearly serious, disgraceful - you name it. But - as ever - shouldn't we be commenting on what actually happened, not what hysterically some people might like to have happened? I do not think our outrage would be much affected.
What you seem to be deliberately missing is that this is what is happening to us (as Europeans also exposed to mass immigration from MENA), whereas what happens in India and Japan is happening to others. Of course all horrors are equally abhorrent, regardless of victim, and multiple cultures can commit the same horrors. But the one we have to deal with is the one associated, it appears, to immigrants from MENA. And based on the facts, there is a cultural link to the misogyny inherent in Islam as currently practiced in much of the MENA region as to why this behaviour - unacceptable in our culture - seems acceptable to some of those we are letting in.
Creating a response based on the facts has to involve facing uncomfortable facts. Whether a segment of Indian and Japanese men are equally horrible has no bearing per se on the most appropriate way to deal with the problem on our own doorstep.
I'm not deliberately missing anything. I know where South Yorkshire is. To repeat ''I do not think our outrage would be much affected'' if the issues were reported on and commented on more clearly and accurately.
Anyone who believed the hype and voted for Corbyn now prepared to admit they fucked up big style?
Because a reshuffle has been a bit messy? I'm not even one of those people and I'd be disappointed if this was what broke the spell for them.
I'll be honest, it's lowered my opinion of him. Not necessarily because of the reshuffle (or lack thereof) itself, but because for me the events of the past couple of weeks seem to confirm what other people have been saying about the Corbyn team being more interested in settling internal scores than opposing the Tories.
There have been so many opportunities to pressure the Tories (not least, over the floods which should've been a perfect opportunity to show how austerity is really just a series of false economies) but the Labour team have passed it up for their petty "revenge". It's one thing if some of Corbyn's ideas are questionable but at least has good intentions, but if he's not even interested in trying to represent the party and oppose the Tories properly...
Anyone who believed the hype and voted for Corbyn now prepared to admit they fucked up big style?
Because a reshuffle has been a bit messy? I'm not even one of those people and I'd be disappointed if this was what broke the spell for them.
To be honest, its been a collection of feck ups. At every key moment where he's had to display some kind of leadership he has utterly failed.
Exactly – a politician can get away with an awful lot most of the time, but when the media spot light justly points in your direction, you had better be prepared to do what's expected and do it well. - Corbyn has been winging it for 30 years and it shows.
They say UK productivity has been falling. I don't know if that is actually true or not, it JJ is definitely providing good solid anecdotal evidence of this. 3 days (at least) just to shuffle a few people around.
''the implication of this for our recorded labour productivity figures is that some portion of that growth in labour productivity over the period 2001 to 2010, and some portion of the fall in it since, is simply the result of the boom and then restraint in public sector pay.'' ''Why is UK labour productivity falling? Simply because we measure public sector labour productivity by the amount we pay them in wages and we’re deliberately squeezing those wages currently.''
Wider discussion of the New Years Eve events in Germany are disallowed by the German mainstream media. E.g.
Dear readers, in contrast to many other articles on SPIEGEL ONLINE there is no forum. Unfortunately on this issue we receive so many inappropriate, offensive or justiciable forum posts that a scrupulous moderation according to the rules of our Netiquette is hardly possible.
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I'm still waiting for those so insistent on gay marriage to protest outside mosques demanding they be married. There are countless examples of laws running parallel with one another, its bloody ridiculous.
Yeah but.......
I wonder if Tim Montgomerie and Sayeedi Warsi still think the PM's Syria refugee policy was all wrong.
Or Yvette Cooper. Or Tim Farron.
I really hope the women band together and sue the state.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/reshuffle-david-camerons-
cabinet-him-7120207
That stuff is dynamite.
If I was David Cameron I would be asking 'what would TM most disagree with?' . Then I'd go with that.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35231046
If the BBC are saying "it appears to have been organized", it is absolutely nailed on it was.
I have been to Cologne a number of times with a lady friend and never had anything but good experiences.
Edit: Actually no, one bar owner took exception to my bad German and decided to make me wait for a table.
I suppose that new guidelines will be issued for women not to copy her example.
Stalin and Lenin, in addition to Hitler, were savages long before they were at war.
They needed to invent wars in their own heads to justify brutalising their own people, never mind their enemies.
Simply amazing
The composition of Her majesty's Loyal Opposition is a constitutional matter, of concern to all citizens
The problem here is that the German government has recklessly encouraged millions of people, with radically different cultures and standards of behaviour, to come to Europe.
It may be a few days.
Matt
This may be wrong - it which case the people in charge of BBC news should be sacked. However from the reports of the reports I have been reading here I was under the impression that hundreds of women had been raped in one night in Cologne.
You suggest - quite plausibly - that the worrying aspect is 1000 men turning up. But the events happened at a railway station. Isn't this where people turn up?
One of the great scandals that happen in Japan is the groping and molestation of women on their crowded buses and railways. There were reports about this some months ago. This thing is not a muslim only affair. There is a similar scandal in India. This event in Cologne is clearly serious, disgraceful - you name it. But - as ever - shouldn't we be commenting on what actually happened, not what hysterically some people might like to have happened? I do not think our outrage would be much affected.
https://twitter.com/Mike_Fabricant/status/684409496337268736
7am tomorrow "Welcome to day three of the Labour Test, Day 1 was more rumour than substance, Day 2 Dugher hit for six, Day 3...who knows"
Labour Trying to Legalise Political Campaigning By Charities Via Legislative Back Door https://t.co/CMEWJ0CARs https://t.co/5Xr44MvQke
Like, maybe, a brown shirt?
Just a pity for Major and Hezza that the briefing didn't extend to them. Makes them look like a right pair of muppets.
Miss Plato, new, friendlier, more guilt-tripping politics.
The cap fits though, doesn't it? The interesting thing I suppose is not Heseltine's predictable geriatric vapourings but that Major let his mask of reasonableness slip so carelessly.
http://blogs.ft.com/brusselsblog/2016/01/05/is-poland-becoming-the-new-hungary/
"Elsewhere in the refugee crisis, just-updated European Commission numbers show of the 160,000 migrants who were to be relocated across the EU, the total to date is just 272. At least they’ve convinced 4 to move to Lithuania."
All that political capital spent on browbeating the eastern European countries, and for what?
"I balanced all, brought all to mind,
The years to come seemed waste of breath,
A waste of breath the years behind
In balance with this life, this death."
I still have my Big Book of English poetry from primary school. There is some wonderful stuff in there.
And of course the King James' Bible is pure poetry. Whoever decided to replace it with the telephone directory style modern version should be put in one of Dante's Seven Circles of Hell.
Islam is a religion locked into the middle ages. Thankfully our version of Christianity emerged from that centuries ago. Religious diktat needs to be replaced by democracy everywhere.
What I am commenting about is forming opinions based on facts not promulgating hysteria a la Mike Ks usual trawl of the internet. You like to pretend you were a journalist once - don't facts matter?
If the BBCs interpretation on this significant event is wrong and or misleading then its news bosses should be sacked.
It's just tragic now
It's not as though the modern versions even work in their own terms. If they really wanted to use contemporary forms of expression, the service would go something like this:
"The Lord be with you"
"And with you too, mate".
More importantly is the YEAR>
PS: I read PB - as I am interested in politics. Surprisingly enough, the Labour Party is part of the UK political scene.. I know it's hard to realise any sentient being could be interested in a bunch of losers lead by Corbyn but humoue me as I'm an old man and laughter is good for me..
I am an atheist, but there is something incredibly moving about the old service for the burial of the dead, knowing that the same words have been said over graves for centuries past.
Symptomatic I think of an organisation that is deeply uncomfortable with itself.
Creating a response based on the facts has to involve facing uncomfortable facts. Whether a segment of Indian and Japanese men are equally horrible has no bearing per se on the most appropriate way to deal with the problem on our own doorstep.
Islam is a religion locked into the middle ages.''
Surely the point is the German government had the choice to put their own citizens in the front line against these people or not. It's not a problem they inherited.
And they chose to.
Similar atrocities had earlier been happening in Sweden on a smaller scale, but these have been in large part unreported by the politically correct Swedish press.
Mrs Merkel has called for a hard response from the authorities without regard to where the perpetrators come from or what their background is.
http://www.rp-online.de/nrw/staedte/koeln/angela-merkel-fordert-harte-antwort-des-rechtsstaats-aid-1.5669919
However the article ends with "little is known about the perpetrators"!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01b3ftw
Cheers
From the comments on here I formed an opinion that scores of women, 100's had been raped by marauding bands of 1000's of muslim men probably from Syria. If this last point is true than the BBC news chiefs should be sacked.
http://www.cologne-tourism.com/whats-on/carnival/dates.html
To repeat ''I do not think our outrage would be much affected'' if the issues were reported on and commented on more clearly and accurately.
There have been so many opportunities to pressure the Tories (not least, over the floods which should've been a perfect opportunity to show how austerity is really just a series of false economies) but the Labour team have passed it up for their petty "revenge". It's one thing if some of Corbyn's ideas are questionable but at least has good intentions, but if he's not even interested in trying to represent the party and oppose the Tories properly...
Keeffan
#LabourReshuffle https://t.co/QnHMZsXUNH
Thanks for the tip, I'll try and remember to watch it.
http://www.adamsmith.org/blog/economics/explaining-part-of-the-uk-labour-productivity-puzzle/
''the implication of this for our recorded labour productivity figures is that some portion of that growth in labour productivity over the period 2001 to 2010, and some portion of the fall in it since, is simply the result of the boom and then restraint in public sector pay.''
''Why is UK labour productivity falling? Simply because we measure public sector labour productivity by the amount we pay them in wages and we’re deliberately squeezing those wages currently.''