I'd have thought the mass robbery, rape and sexual assault on German women by 1000+ Muslim men in Hamburg, Stuttgart and Cologne on New Year's Eve MIGHT have been worth a mensh.
I'd have thought the mass robbery, rape and sexual assault on German women by 1000+ Muslim men in Hamburg, Stuttgart and Cologne on New Year's Eve MIGHT have been worth a mensh.
I'd have thought the mass robbery, rape and sexual assault on German women by 1000+ Muslim men in Hamburg, Stuttgart and Cologne on New Year's Eve MIGHT have been worth a mensh.
This reshuffle is reminding me of that glorious Father Ted scene where Dougal spots there's a small dent in the car. So Father Ted sets about remedying it with a small hammer.
I'd have thought the mass robbery, rape and sexual assault on German women by 1000+ Muslim men in Hamburg, Stuttgart and Cologne on New Year's Eve MIGHT have been worth a mensh.
It's now headline news across Europe. 5 days after it happened. Odd.
While it may be politically incorrect or offensive to some here, that article just demonstrates that if you import people from the third world, expect third world attitudes to women and a third world education. Without mandatory assimilation on arrival (in a Schengen region often not even bothering with the simplest step - registration) this will continue.
@bbclaurak: Blimey.. a whisper that Benn might be sacked after all, source tells me they thought they'd avoided a shad cabinet walk out, might not be so
That's the first good news I have heard today. If some in the shadow cabinet walks out, the answer should be : "Good riddance". There are 220 MPs willing to fill their places.
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I'm not sure about that. Every time I listen to the radio or switch on the TV Labour are being represented by either Diane Abbott or Ken Livingstone. I find Coypu's more appealing
Anyone expect Burnham to stick with any principle or friend?
I saw a tweet way back at the start of the reshuffle saying something along the lines that Burnham wouldn't stand up for a colleague even if it was Andy Burnham sacked from the cabinet.
I'd have thought the mass robbery, rape and sexual assault on German women by 1000+ Muslim men in Hamburg, Stuttgart and Cologne on New Year's Eve MIGHT have been worth a mensh.
It's now headline news across Europe. 5 days after it happened. Odd.
Disgusting. Time to close up shop to the Muslim world in Europe. We have our own examples here of girls being raped and traded around Muslim men in loads of cities.
If only you had some pull with a newspaper editor and wrote about it for the media here...
@bbclaurak: Blimey.. a whisper that Benn might be sacked after all, source tells me they thought they'd avoided a shad cabinet walk out, might not be so
That's the first good news I have heard today. If some in the shadow cabinet walks out, the answer should be : "Good riddance". There are 220 MPs willing to fill their places.
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But there aren't. If there were, most of the Shadow Cabinet wouldn't be there now.
Anyone expect Burnham to stick with any principle or friend?
I saw a tweet way back at the start of the reshuffle saying something along the lines that Burnham wouldn't stand up for a colleague even if it was Andy Burnham sacked from the cabinet.
Anyone expect Burnham to stick with any principle or friend?
I saw a tweet way back at the start of the reshuffle saying something along the lines that Burnham wouldn't stand up for a colleague even if it was Andy Burnham sacked from the cabinet.
Oh, spot on sir! Never was there a more self seeking politician than him; I even think he beats Cameron by a wisker.
Anyone expect Burnham to stick with any principle or friend?
I saw a tweet way back at the start of the reshuffle saying something along the lines that Burnham wouldn't stand up for a colleague even if it was Andy Burnham sacked from the cabinet.
That's the first good news I have heard today. If some in the shadow cabinet walks out, the answer should be : "Good riddance". There are 220 MPs willing to fill their places.
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Unlikely. People like Benn and Falconer are only part of the shadow cabinet right now because there is a dearth of extreme left members on the Labour benches who can fill seats.
I expect the government could invade Syria this afternoon and it would barely get a mention on the news.
I loved my times tables. We also learnt a poem every week - and could be called to recite it on Tuesday mornings. I still have great chunks of poetry in my head.
''It's now headline news across Europe. 5 days after it happened. Odd.''
That's quick for that area.
The Red Army raped up to two million German women between 1944 and 1945, and I didn;t read about it until 2005.
LovelyBoyski1983 will be along shortly to claim that US troops were responsible for all those assaults, and anything bad about the Russkis is merely propaganda.
I'd have thought the mass robbery, rape and sexual assault on German women by 1000+ Muslim men in Hamburg, Stuttgart and Cologne on New Year's Eve MIGHT have been worth a mensh.
It's now headline news across Europe. 5 days after it happened. Odd.
There have been quite a lot of articles in the press and online about sexual assaults in Germany, Sweden and elsewhere, particularly in some of the migrant camps, by migrant men.
As you say, the reaction has been somewhat "meh", as if (a) it's only what's to be expected; (b) it only happens to women so why get too bothered about it; and (3) if a fuss were made, there would be problems with the men and, even worse, something might have to be done.
It's an utter disgrace. Serious crimes are being committed and our more half-witted feminists are worried about having to read a possibly misogynistic poem at university or how to address a transgender person appearing on the cover of a magazine rather than real traumatic crimes committed against women and girls. This is why feminism has disappeared up its own f*nny.
I'd have thought the mass robbery, rape and sexual assault on German women by 1000+ Muslim men in Hamburg, Stuttgart and Cologne on New Year's Eve MIGHT have been worth a mensh.
It's now headline news across Europe. 5 days after it happened. Odd.
There have been quite a lot of articles in the press and online about sexual assaults in Germany, Sweden and elsewhere, particularly in some of the migrant camps, by migrant men.
As you say, the reaction has been somewhat "meh", as if (a) it's only what's to be expected; (b) it only happens to women so why get too bothered about it; and (3) if a fuss were made, there would be problems with the men and, even worse, something might have to be done.
It's an utter disgrace. Serious crimes are being committed and our more half-witted feminists are worried about having to read a possibly misogynistic poem at university or how to address a transgender person appearing on the cover of a magazine rather than real traumatic crimes committed against women and girls. This is why feminism has disappeared up its own f*nny.
You also forget the crucially important RHODES MUST FALL....NOW....
Message to Surbs, Nick P and Speedy. Regardless of left right/or loyalty/rally round the flag, and notwithstanding the inadequacies of his erstwhile opponents, in the words of Clement Attlee Jeremy is just NOT UP TO IT.
... We also learnt a poem every week - and could be called to recite it on Tuesday mornings. I still have great chunks of poetry in my head.
"Had we but world enough and time......"
Hang on, I thought you went to a good Catholic school where reciting that kind of stuff would get you into deep trouble...
Don't believe the stereotypes. The nuns at my primary school were ferocious believers in education for girls. - and very good at it. We were taught everything. I was a year ahead in maths when I joined my secondary school. They also enjoyed a good laugh and, based on what my parents told me, were rather fond of a drink as well. We used to have biology classes in the gardens of the school when the weather was fine so that we could actually learn about trees and plants close up and not just from books.
"And German Justice Minister Heiko Maas tweeted that "we won't tolerate these abhorrent assaults on women - all those responsible must be brought to justice"."
You bloody let these savages into the country and now are reaping the consequences. Parts of Germany are as safe as India right now for women. That's not the kind of company they should be keeping.
I thought the point of a reshuffle was to strengthen the party Leader’s standing within the party, instead it seems only to have exposed Jeremy’s weakness and vulnerability within in it.
Four years to go and we appear to have a dead duck shadow government staggering from one day to the next.
@LabourMaquis: Fast decisive reshuffles are a neoliberal construct designed to deceive the proletariat The True Way™ is being shown by the People's Leader™
"A policeman who was outside Cologne station during the New Year's Eve trouble told the city's Express news website that he had detained eight suspects. "They were all asylum seekers, carrying copies of their residence certificates," he said."
Surely they need to have their applications rejected and be flown back to Syria on the next transport. They seem to fit in with the way ISIS behave.
One of my all time favourites is "An Irish Airman foresees his death".
"I know that I shall meet my fate. Somewhere in the skies above. Those that I fight I do not hate. Those that I guard I do not love."
Yeats is a great poet. But there is so much poetry in the English language, even outside formal poems. And the great advantage of learning poetry and learning to speak it is that you get attuned to the rhythm, the musicality of English. And, if you do, it makes you a better speaker, a better writer.
Language and music go together. I wince when I hear some of the clod-hopping mangling perpetrated by some of our public speakers. It really should not be possible to mess up English, given what a wonderfully painterly, vivid and muscular language it is.
I thought the point of a reshuffle was to strengthen the party Leader’s standing within the party, instead it seems only to have exposed Jeremy’s weakness and vulnerability within in it.
Four years to go and we appear to have a dead duck shadow government staggering from one day to the next.
Four years? On my current popcorn diet I am going to weigh twenty odd stone by then!
I thought the point of a reshuffle was to strengthen the party Leader’s standing within the party, instead it seems only to have exposed Jeremy’s weakness and vulnerability within in it.
Four years to go and we appear to have a dead duck shadow government staggering from one day to the next.
Surely if Corbyn wants to remove Benn then the thing to do is identify the 8 who stand with him and sack all 9 of them.
"A policeman who was outside Cologne station during the New Year's Eve trouble told the city's Express news website that he had detained eight suspects. "They were all asylum seekers, carrying copies of their residence certificates," he said."
Surely they need to have their applications rejected and be flown back to Syria on the next transport. They seem to fit in with the way ISIS behave.
BBC article waits a long time to point fingers. I assume the German media are being more forthright?
Merkel's thoughtless promise is really going to hurt - Germany, Europe, and her polling.
''You bloody let these savages into the country and now are reaping the consequences. Parts of Germany are as safe as India right now for women. That's not the kind of company they should be keeping. ''
Wait until the Trump campaign gets its hands on this stuff...
Would you have been able to read about it in 1944 Taffy?
SeanT - Welcome to 2016, unlikley to be the last story following the mass immigration of 2015.
When I was a teenager, I read a novel about post-war Germany which covered that issue in passing but as an essential plot element, so it was well-known and documented in the 70s. Presumably so well earlier, but I was not yet of an age to be reading that stuff.
One of my all time favourites is "An Irish Airman foresees his death".
"I know that I shall meet my fate. Somewhere in the skies above. Those that I fight I do not hate. Those that I guard I do not love."
Yeats is a great poet. But there is so much poetry in the English language, even outside formal poems. And the great advantage of learning poetry and learning to speak it is that you get attuned to the rhythm, the musicality of English. And, if you do, it makes you a better speaker, a better writer.
Language and music go together. I wince when I hear some of the clod-hopping mangling perpetrated by some of our public speakers. It really should not be possible to mess up English, given what a wonderfully painterly, vivid and muscular language it is.
One of my favorite poems (and poets) as well: Kiltartan Cross.
"My country is Kiltartan Cross, My countrymen Kiltartan's poor, No likely end could bring them loss Or leave them happier than before."
One of my all time favourites is "An Irish Airman foresees his death".
"I know that I shall meet my fate. Somewhere in the skies above. Those that I fight I do not hate. Those that I guard I do not love."
Yeats is a great poet. But there is so much poetry in the English language, even outside formal poems. And the great advantage of learning poetry and learning to speak it is that you get attuned to the rhythm, the musicality of English. And, if you do, it makes you a better speaker, a better writer.
Language and music go together. I wince when I hear some of the clod-hopping mangling perpetrated by some of our public speakers. It really should not be possible to mess up English, given what a wonderfully painterly, vivid and muscular language it is.
I thought the point of a reshuffle was to strengthen the party Leader’s standing within the party, instead it seems only to have exposed Jeremy’s weakness and vulnerability within in it.
Four years to go and we appear to have a dead duck shadow government staggering from one day to the next.
Surely if Corbyn wants to remove Benn then the thing to do is identify the 8 who stand with him and sack all 9 of them.
I thought the point of a reshuffle was to strengthen the party Leader’s standing within the party, instead it seems only to have exposed Jeremy’s weakness and vulnerability within in it.
Four years to go and we appear to have a dead duck shadow government staggering from one day to the next.
Corbyn's first reshuffle has come after less than four months in post. He has 52 months to the GE. At this rate, we should get another 12-14 reshuffles or so before then.
One of my all time favourites is "An Irish Airman foresees his death".
"I know that I shall meet my fate. Somewhere in the skies above. Those that I fight I do not hate. Those that I guard I do not love."
Yeats is a great poet. But there is so much poetry in the English language, even outside formal poems. And the great advantage of learning poetry and learning to speak it is that you get attuned to the rhythm, the musicality of English. And, if you do, it makes you a better speaker, a better writer.
Language and music go together. I wince when I hear some of the clod-hopping mangling perpetrated by some of our public speakers. It really should not be possible to mess up English, given what a wonderfully painterly, vivid and muscular language it is.
Ironic that, under the pre-2011 rules, it would have been the PLP who elected the shadow cabinet.
Ed really buggered it up for Labour didn't he!
At the time it was seen as a measure to keep the loonier MPs out of the shadow cabinet. Now it's turned out to be a way of guaranteeing that the looniest MPs are in the shadow cabinet.
@MShapland: Understand Jeremy Corbyn has sent an all member email asking for feedback from Labour Members about whether he should sack Hillary Benn
Things have come to such a pass that I genuinely don't know whether that is satire or not.
It's got to be satire?
Surely?
Can you tell me, given his leadership so far, that it's impossible?
It comes to something when the best way to work whether it was satire or not was that had it been real, we'd have found out from a different source first with a copy of the e-mail, rather than the inherent plausibility of it.
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That's quick for that area.
The Red Army raped up to two million German women between 1944 and 1945, and I didn;t read about it until 2005.
I have just learned that Jezza was in Saville Row @ lunchtime and ordered two suits of armour.
https://twitter.com/SophyRidgeSky/status/684370614874943489
https://twitter.com/BreitbartLondon/status/684324470274695168
His feed is becoming as diverting as CiF.
@JohnRentoul: Andy Burnham made Dugher's appointment a condition of taking shad cab job himself, reported @MLeftly https://t.co/qk9amiLUlR
http://ic.c4assets.com/brands/father-ted/series-2/episode-2/df4011bc-1e65-412a-8716-187dde4c8b3d_625x352.jpg?interpolation=progressive-bicubic&output-quality=90&output-format=jpeg&resize=625px:352px
Without mandatory assimilation on arrival (in a Schengen region often not even bothering with the simplest step - registration) this will continue.
SeanT - Welcome to 2016, unlikley to be the last story following the mass immigration of 2015.
At this rate he won't need to worry about the reshuffle because it will already May 2020 and he'll have lost the election.
If only you had some pull with a newspaper editor and wrote about it for the media here...
https://twitter.com/GreekAnalyst/status/684373472638824448
I loved my times tables. We also learnt a poem every week - and could be called to recite it on Tuesday mornings. I still have great chunks of poetry in my head.
"Had we but world enough and time......"
No real effect as didn't take part in any of the important recent votes on Tax Credits, Electoral Registration or EU Referendum.
New State of Parties (main 3):
Con 250, Lab 213, LD 111
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/12081958/Jeremy-Corbyns-reshuffle-is-just-rearranging-deck-chairs-on-the-Titanic.html
As you say, the reaction has been somewhat "meh", as if (a) it's only what's to be expected; (b) it only happens to women so why get too bothered about it; and (3) if a fuss were made, there would be problems with the men and, even worse, something might have to be done.
It's an utter disgrace. Serious crimes are being committed and our more half-witted feminists are worried about having to read a possibly misogynistic poem at university or how to address a transgender person appearing on the cover of a magazine rather than real traumatic crimes committed against women and girls. This is why feminism has disappeared up its own f*nny.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/spectator-competition-andrew-marvells-coy-mistress-has-her-say-plus-rock-star-novelists/
"And German Justice Minister Heiko Maas tweeted that "we won't tolerate these abhorrent assaults on women - all those responsible must be brought to justice"."
You bloody let these savages into the country and now are reaping the consequences. Parts of Germany are as safe as India right now for women. That's not the kind of company they should be keeping.
Four years to go and we appear to have a dead duck shadow government staggering from one day to the next.
Surely?
The True Way™ is being shown by the People's Leader™
Surely they need to have their applications rejected and be flown back to Syria on the next transport. They seem to fit in with the way ISIS behave.
Can't get enough #reshuffle speculation? Worth reading how Gordon Brown's 2008 one went https://t.co/mVsWqUeW4F https://t.co/tLdrxRRJPca Bennett
One of my all time favourites is "An Irish Airman foresees his death".
"I know that I shall meet my fate.
Somewhere in the skies above.
Those that I fight I do not hate.
Those that I guard I do not love."
Yeats is a great poet. But there is so much poetry in the English language, even outside formal poems. And the great advantage of learning poetry and learning to speak it is that you get attuned to the rhythm, the musicality of English. And, if you do, it makes you a better speaker, a better writer.
Language and music go together. I wince when I hear some of the clod-hopping mangling perpetrated by some of our public speakers. It really should not be possible to mess up English, given what a wonderfully painterly, vivid and muscular language it is.
I found this interesting on the EU debate.
Hard to walk out once you've been sacked.
Merkel's thoughtless promise is really going to hurt - Germany, Europe, and her polling.
Wait until the Trump campaign gets its hands on this stuff...
Surely whatever Shadow Cabinet he forms is the Shadow Cabinet for as long as he is leader. If they want to remove the Cabinet they need to remove him.
https://youtu.be/Y-CeJeq8wf0
"My country is Kiltartan Cross,
My countrymen Kiltartan's poor,
No likely end could bring them loss
Or leave them happier than before."
I don't speak for anyone, though - one of the benefits of primogeniture is that I have all the fun and none of the obligations
What a reshuffle RT @JohnRentoul I hear @lisanandy has been offered and turned down defence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbLoYVnh4sY