If the gap is maintained, it will be a PP minority government
New provinces reporting. Now:
PP + Cs = 155 PSOE + P = 135
With 155 it's not a government, the numbers needed for a majority is 176. It's way low even for a minority one, I think a second election will be due.
The total is only 312 out of 350. So there are 38 provinces without predictions - mostly from big munacipalities, which is why Podemos and C are so low.
I'm going to come out of the closet big time here- I really like Tyson Fury, I like Donald Trump, I like Boris Johnson and I even like Nigel Farage and Paul Nuttall. I also liked George Dubya Bush. As a pretty full on Man City fan I always liked Alex Ferguson and Gary Neville particularly, I like Morihno, I like Liverpool Football Club. That's it. my conscience is clear of all my contradictions.
I just put 20 notes on Tyson on betfair out of solidarity- namesake, fellow Mancunian, fellow Irish stock, ginger genes- we could be twins. Plus the fact that watching the Klitschko fight in a bar at Manchester was one of the most pleasurable things I have ever done with my clothes on. I suspect Tyson really is a veggie, liberal, lefty parading as this macho type.
BTW- I never win a sports bet to save my life, so buyers beware and all that.
If the gap is maintained, it will be a PP minority government
New provinces reporting. Now:
PP + Cs = 155 PSOE + P = 135
With 155 it's not a government, the numbers needed for a majority is 176. It's way low even for a minority one, I think a second election will be due.
The total is only 312 out of 350. So there are 38 provinces without predictions - mostly from big munacipalities, which is why Podemos and C are so low.
I anticipated that you were going to bring up Corbyn and make the completely bogus comparison .....having lived in America for 25 years in 9 different states I actually know the Yanks ....Trump is about as far away from the Gandhi-like Corbyn as you could possibly get and the GOP are light years from the Left dominated Labour Party ...Corbyn is a career politician while Trump is a Real Estate tycoon and TV star with virtually no experience in politics ....he is treating his gormless political supporters like the crowd from a WWF event...many of these folks are very unlikely to actually vote !
Anyone viewing this GOP race through the lens of the former LP leadership race are completely deluding themselves and couldn't be more wrong ...the Yanks , especially the GOP are pragmatic and can be ruthlessly ambitious ; they are great problem solvers who will find a way around a problem like Trump ...they will never let this egotistical creep usurp their Party , NEVER !...even if they have to bribe him, they will get rid of him
Did you notice how comradely and gentle that Burnham , Cooper and Liz were to Corbyn , even when they suspected he was going to win ?.....the GOP are never going to be that gentle with Trump ! They are going to produce PAC attack adds to humiliate and crucify Trump until he becomes a laughing stock and gets the hell out of the race
To draw a parallel between the election of a Labour leader and a Republican leader , between the Labour Party base and the GOP base couldn't be more mistaken ; the GOP race and Labour Party race is completely different
If the gap is maintained, it will be a PP minority government
New provinces reporting. Now:
PP + Cs = 155 PSOE + P = 135
With 155 it's not a government, the numbers needed for a majority is 176. It's way low even for a minority one, I think a second election will be due.
The total is only 312 out of 350. So there are 38 provinces without predictions - mostly from big munacipalities, which is why Podemos and C are so low.
Results site says Podemos on 40, TV says 66...
Meh!
The ministry site has the Catalan and Valencian Podemos groupings as separate parties. Add the onto the Podemos score and you get over 60.
Still in nationalist kingmaker territory. But I will prepare some jokes about ungrateful voters who never could understand the brilliance of pro-european economics.
If the gap is maintained, it will be a PP minority government
New provinces reporting. Now:
PP + Cs = 155 PSOE + P = 135
With 155 it's not a government, the numbers needed for a majority is 176. It's way low even for a minority one, I think a second election will be due.
The total is only 312 out of 350. So there are 38 provinces without predictions - mostly from big munacipalities, which is why Podemos and C are so low.
Results site says Podemos on 40, TV says 66...
Meh!
The ministry site has the Catalan and Valencian Podemos groupings as separate parties. Add the onto the Podemos score and you get over 60.
I'm going to come out of the closet big time here- I really like Tyson Fury, I like Donald Trump, I like Boris Johnson and I even like Nigel Farage and Paul Nuttall. I also liked George Dubya Bush. As a pretty full on Man City fan I always liked Alex Ferguson and Gary Neville particularly, I like Morihno, I like Liverpool Football Club. That's it. my conscience is clear of all my contradictions.
I just put 20 notes on Tyson on betfair out of solidarity- namesake, fellow Mancunian, fellow Irish stock, ginger genes- we could be twins. Plus the fact that watching the Klitschko fight in a bar at Manchester was one of the most pleasurable things I have ever done with my clothes on. I suspect Tyson really is a veggie, liberal, lefty parading as this macho type.
BTW- I never win a sports bet to save my life, so buyers beware and all that.
Can be expected to win by a respectable margin if those odds are correct.
And definitely confirm that the awards should drop the "personality" bit...Murray...Hamilton...Murray.. Never understood why they are called that anyway.
In the age of TV politics , appearance and ''likability '' is crucial
If that is true then how do explain Hilary Clinton?
Hillary is the Democrats Nixon, she may well end up lucky in her opponents, just as Nixon probably would have lost to Bobby Kennedy in 1968 had he faced him rather than Hubert Humphrey and then George McGovern, so Hillary is lucky in that she may face Trump and Cruz rather than Rubio. 8 years earlier facing the charismatic and likeable JFK Nixon was narrowly beaten, just as in 2008 Hillary lost to the more likeable and charismatic Obama
Tyson Fury could have beaten McGovern, but HH was easily as well respected a Democrat as RFK.
GB tennis have just won the team event. But wasn't it only Andy Murray who won a match? Murray cannot win both and should be disqualified from the individual event.
GB tennis have just won the team event. But wasn't it only Andy Murray who won a match? Murray cannot win both and should be disqualified from the individual event.
In the age of TV politics , appearance and ''likability '' is crucial
If that is true then how do explain Hilary Clinton?
Well the democrats don't have anyone else that can run for president, it's Hillary or bust for them. They are well short of senators and governors that can have national appeal, it doesn't help that all the cameras are on Obama when someone needs to talk about the democrats, the republicans had the same problem after 8 years of Reagan and 8 years of Bush Jr.
Err Bush Snr won easily after Regan.
But there was no one else that could realistically have won the nomination or the election in 1988, same position with Hillary and Obama today. You see when your party gets the presidency then all the lights fall on the president and no one else within your party. Sooner or later you run out of people who can be credible or known nationally.
That's why in 1992 the only alternative to Bush with the party that held the White house was Buchanan, while the democrats had half a dozen credible candidates. In 2000 there was no alternative to Gore, in 2008 there was no alternative but McCain who ran in 2000, and today they have no alternative but Hillary.
The party that holds the white house always stifles all the other prominent figures except the President and the VP.
Ah I get what you are saying, I misunderstood your previous post.
Indeed, just think after Hillary who? Bernie Sanders will be too old to run next time and there is no one else, expect perhaps Hillary's VP (though that's a little early to say).
In contrast after Trump or Cruz, the republicans still have a lot of potential candidates who are both credible and well known.
After Hillary who? Is it a bit early to speculate about 2024? I find it a bit laughable that you think it is oh so relaxed (relatively) for the Republicans. If I lived in the USA I would vote Republican, but they are stuffed as long as the Tea Party are riding shotgun.
Well things are settling down with 2/3 rds of the vote counted in Spain. No victor but one sure loser (the pro-european liberal C's). And no government either, so a second election seems possible in case the catalan and basque nationalists aren't on board.
Kudos to the pollsters who got it right this time.
Time for those jokes " those ungrateful voters, how dare they vote against a government that delivered such remarkable economic growth".
Well things are settling down with 2/3 rds of the vote counted in Spain. No victor but one sure loser (the pro-european liberal C's). And no government either, so a second election seems possible in case the catalan and basque nationalists aren't on board.
Kudos to the pollsters who got it right this time.
What!
Pollsters had Podemos 2% ahead of PSOE and they ended up 4% behind.
Murray only won SPOTY a couple of years ago... do they often give it to the same person twice?
I suppose if you are interested in betting it might be a worthy subject for consideration. But otherwise is anyone really interested in this pompous rubbish served up by the BBC? Note that Bobby Charlton never won and you see how acute and astute this nonsense is. David Steele did of course, but then again Brian Close didn't.
Along with Andy Murray, Henry Cooper did win twice.
Sinfield would have been a good choice - would have been like when Giggs won - basically a "career award".
Say Gerrard had been nominated - he would have had a good chance.
It's a bit silly really because half the nominations went to people that 99% of the public wouldn't have even heard of - ie "worthy" people in "Olympic" sports that nobody cares about. Hence why they were all 1000 on Betfair.
This is an insult to all Sheffielders and Yorkshire people.
We must secede from the rest of the UK.
Only if you take Cleveland with you.
Never, judging by what I'm reading, the whole of the M62 corridor is ready to secede too
I am not sure anyone from Wigan would secede on behalf of anyone from Leeds.
I'm pleased for Rugby League and Sinfield and that a life at the top of Rugby League is recognoised. But my vote would have gone to the other loose forward who scored two vital tries at the highest level and won the games for his national team. But I'm biased.
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He has my vote too.
PP + Cs = 155
PSOE + P + P-C + P-en= 148
Result, chaos
Catalan nationalists 9 seats, Basque nationalists 6 seats.
Those will hold the balance of power.
Meh!
Anyone viewing this GOP race through the lens of the former LP leadership race are completely deluding themselves and couldn't be more wrong ...the Yanks , especially the GOP are pragmatic and can be ruthlessly ambitious ; they are great problem solvers who will find a way around a problem like Trump ...they will never let this egotistical creep usurp their Party , NEVER !...even if they have to bribe him, they will get rid of him
Did you notice how comradely and gentle that Burnham , Cooper and Liz were to Corbyn , even when they suspected he was going to win ?.....the GOP are never going to be that gentle with Trump ! They are going to produce PAC attack adds to humiliate and crucify Trump until he becomes a laughing stock and gets the hell out of the race
To draw a parallel between the election of a Labour leader and a Republican leader , between the Labour Party base and the GOP base couldn't be more mistaken ; the GOP race and Labour Party race is completely different
PP + Cs = 151
PSOE + P + PC + P-en = 152
But I will prepare some jokes about ungrateful voters who never could understand the brilliance of pro-european economics.
PP fading, btw...
PSOE + various Podemos = 161
Can be expected to win by a respectable margin if those odds are correct.
PSOE was forecast to be 2% behind Podemos, and like they will be 4% ahead.
Podemos 18%
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12060787/Lord-Janner-was-facing-new-sex-abuse-charges.html
This needs a proper investigation so there can be closure one way or another.
PP - 28% - 124 seats
PSOE - 23% - 96
Podemos - 18% - 64
Citizens - 13% - 31
Left and Right both on 41%
PP + Cs = 155
PSOE + P = 160
New elections in February, I reckon
I laid a bit at 1/3 & some more @ 1/4 to top up my fury/ennis back bets.
I expect to lose, but won't feel too bad so long as he doesn't win by a huge margin.
If he storms it, I'll give up punting on these type of bets!
PP + Cs = 156
PSOE + P = 159
Good enough for me
And there was me all-in on the England Rugby Team ;-)
PP + Cs = 157
PSOE + P = 158
PSOE is Labour.
P is SYRIZA.
I find it a bit laughable that you think it is oh so relaxed (relatively) for the Republicans. If I lived in the USA I would vote Republican, but they are stuffed as long as the Tea Party are riding shotgun.
But Podemos itself is three different parties (and ran as three lists). One of the lists is broadly pro-EU; another is radically anti.
Hard to see this end up with anything other than new elections in February.
No victor but one sure loser (the pro-european liberal C's).
And no government either, so a second election seems possible in case the catalan and basque nationalists aren't on board.
Kudos to the pollsters who got it right this time.
Time for those jokes " those ungrateful voters, how dare they vote against a government that delivered such remarkable economic growth".
Pollsters had Podemos 2% ahead of PSOE and they ended up 4% behind.
We must secede from the rest of the UK.
PSOE + P (various) 155
Sorry you what....
Note that Bobby Charlton never won and you see how acute and astute this nonsense is.
David Steele did of course, but then again Brian Close didn't.
Along with Andy Murray, Henry Cooper did win twice.
He's my role model.
I'm going to name my firstborn Andy.
And now time for another waste of time pompous load of rubbish....and he will be giving away £250k to some moron.
Federer and Wawrinka didn't play for Switzerland.
We just beat a whole pile of no hopers in a competition nobody else could even be bothered with.
New publication date is the 3rd of January
At least Andy's winning personality is worth waiting for..........
Good results for PP and PSOE
Podemos did OK
Citizens' undershot expectations and - more so - seats
New elections in February, I'd reckon
Say Gerrard had been nominated - he would have had a good chance.
It's a bit silly really because half the nominations went to people that 99% of the public wouldn't have even heard of - ie "worthy" people in "Olympic" sports that nobody cares about. Hence why they were all 1000 on Betfair.
Can we have indy ref 2 please ?
We do have some standards.
I've already written next Sunday's pieces.
One of them is pure clickbait
I'm pleased for Rugby League and Sinfield and that a life at the top of Rugby League is recognoised. But my vote would have gone to the other loose forward who scored two vital tries at the highest level and won the games for his national team.
But I'm biased.
I love Belgium, a nation invented to get up the nose of the French.
What's not to love about the Belgians?
"What's not to love about the Belgians? "
Do you want the list alphabetically, or in order of importance?
https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/678655955819741184
I once did a thread about Belgium and got in a reference to THG2TG