On the day of the first Democratic party debate, Fox News has helpfully published it's poll that shows Trump beating Clinton in the largest republican victory since 1988 and Carson beating Clinton in the largest landslide since 1984.
If - when - Biden announces his numbers will drop significantly. Biden will never be more popular than the day he announces.
Trump's didn't
begins.
especially if any further revelations emerge in the next few months
utube will not make TPP or it's supporters popular, apart from the free trade=job loses, lower salaries factor.
That is one thing which could h
Supporting TPP is a real risk because it's so awful that it's mostly top secret to keep voters from reading it, no wonder out of all those candidates only Bush and Rubio support it.
The free trade candidate normally wins though, even if voters may dislike some of the details
Voters are not allowed to know the TPP details. You have to know something is bad when it has to be labelled top secret (it creates a myth around all top secrets) , besides the portions that have leaked are really bad, as I said it will lead to the closure of popular and visible companies not because of competition but due to over regulating their market (YouTube is a perfect example).
Americans might not care about the details but they care when they take their food and entertainment away, "Jeb Bush the YouTube slayer" does not have a good ring to it.
I highly doubt TPP could shut down youtube even if it wanted do
As with all these trade negotiations, there is a huge amount of scaremongering and outright lying going on.
The above will cause a world of hurt to companies in North America. It reminds me of when many financial companies left New York for London after the Sarbanes-Oxley Act in 2002
On the day of the first Democratic party debate, Fox News has helpfully published it's poll that shows Trump beating Clinton in the largest republican victory since 1988 and Carson beating Clinton in the largest landslide since 1984.
If - when - Biden announces his numbers will drop significantly. Biden will never be more popular than the day he announces.
Trump's didn't
True, but Trump doesn't fit the mold in any way at all, even hair. Typically when a non-candidate announces the negative publicity begins.
especially if any further revelations emerge in the next few months
utube will not make TPP or it's supporters popular, apart from the free trade=job loses, lower salaries factor.
That is one thing which could h
Supporting TPP is a real risk because it's so awful that it's mostly top secret to keep voters from reading it, no wonder out of all those candidates only Bush and Rubio support it.
The free trade candidate normally wins though, even if voters may dislike some of the details
Voters are not allowed to know the TPP details. You have to know something is bad when it has to be labelled top secret (it creates a myth around all top secrets) , besides the portions that have leaked are really bad, as I said it will lead to the closure of popular and visible companies not because of competition but due to over regulating their market (YouTube is a perfect example).
Americans might not care about the details but they care when they take their food and entertainment away, "Jeb Bush the YouTube slayer" does not have a good ring to it.
I highly doubt TPP could shut down youtube even if it wanted do
As with all these trade negotiations, there is a huge amount of scaremongering and outright lying going on.
With the Democratic candidate TV debate tonight its the 1st chance for a few people to make breakout from low poll figures.
So I've stuck a few quid on Jim Webb, a complete no nonsense kind of guy who after announcing his candidacy seemed to keep a lower profile than a tax official in Sicily.
Its small money, so little to lose but with decent upside if he gets good profile out of tonight.
Jim Webb is more conservative than most republicans, a fervent supporter of the confederacy has zero chance in the democratic party, although it's impossible to know if CNN is going to ask him to explain his support for such extreme right wing causes.
OK, I'll bite - a fervent supporter of the confederacy. How so?
By Labour standards he's the american Liz Kendall.
So you are essentially saying that because he's not for banning the Confederate Battle Flag he's a fervent supporter of the confederacy. That's not worthy of comment.
You forget we are talking about the democratic party here, not the republican one. Jim Webb is running in the wrong primary, among others he supports guns, tax cuts for companies, spending cuts without defence cuts, cutting environmental regulations, supporting big oil, against obamacare and against the Iran deal, though he supports immigration. His positions put him somewhere between Rubio and Cruz, not between Hillary and Sanders.
With the Democratic candidate TV debate tonight its the 1st chance for a few people to make breakout from low poll figures.
So I've stuck a few quid on Jim Webb, a complete no nonsense kind of guy who after announcing his candidacy seemed to keep a lower profile than a tax official in Sicily.
Its small money, so little to lose but with decent upside if he gets good profile out of tonight.
Jim Webb is more conservative than most republicans, a fervent supporter of the confederacy has zero chance in the democratic party, although it's impossible to know if CNN is going to ask him to explain his support for such extreme right wing causes.
OK, I'll bite - a fervent supporter of the confederacy. How so?
By Labour standards he's the american Liz Kendall.
So you are essentially saying that because he's not for banning the Confederate Battle Flag he's a fervent supporter of the confederacy. That's not worthy of comment.
You forget we are talking about the democratic party here, not the republican one. Jim Webb is running in the wrong primary, among others he supports guns, tax cuts for companies, spending cuts without defence cuts, cutting environmental regulations, supporting big oil, against obamacare and against the Iran deal, though he supports immigration. His positions put him somewhere between Rubio and Cruz, not between Hillary and Sanders.
See you in an hour when the debate starts.
On my dvr I have 17! episodes of Top Gear from BBC America. I've seen them all before but the Dem debate looks tedious. Anderson Cooper's best facet is that his mother started a jeans company.
Excellent report and debate on This Week featuring the much missed former Skynews Foreign editor Tim Marshall on Putin and Syria. And with Tim Marshall putting forward an interesting twist in the tail to Putin's intervention in Syria with regard the upcoming review of the EU's Russian sanctions over Ukraine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT3IlVABJXI
Sanders: "America is in a crisis", the middle class is ripped of by the 1%, the supreme court corrupted democracy with billionaires, climate change is real, leave fossil fuels hooray green energy, youth unemployment of minorities there are too many jails not many schools.
Hillary: "I'm Hillary Clinton, I was first lady", opportunity for children, I traveled around the country, invest in infrastructure, raise wages, companies share profits with workers, tax system reform, equal pay for women and payed family leave for all, gays and lesbians.
Moderator to Sanders: Why are you against gun control.
Sanders: The NRA rates me badly, in 1974 I said to the people of Vermont that blah blah blah, mental health care is in crisis, a legal sale of guns in Vermont should not be responsible for the actions on guns.
Hillary: Sanders is weak on guns, someone has to stand up to the NRA, Sanders voted against the Brady bill, Sanders wanted to give immunity to gun makers.
Sanders: All the shouting of the world won't do a thing about guns, make background checks.
Moderator to O'Malley: How are you going to pass gun control through Congress.
O'Malley: I will because I did it in Maryland, I brought 2 gun victims to the audience.
Sanders: We can raise our voices, rural states think differently than urban states, I will bring them together.
O'Malley vs Sanders fight.
Moderator to Webb: You said that more guns reduce gun crime.
Webb: most people that die from guns are gang members, we need background checks, defend gun tradition.
Moderator to Chaffe: what about you
Chaffe: the gun lobby is behind this, we need to bring the NRA in.
Moderator to Hillary: You did the reset, did you underestimate him.
Hillary: we made the Iran deal, we had to stand up to Putin's bullying, I support talks with him about Syria.
Sanders: Syria is a quagmire in a quagmire, everyone is fighting everyone, I learned lessons from war from the Iraq war, support the arabs but not american troops.
Moderator to Chafee: You voted against the Iraq war, and you said that Hillary should be disqualified for voting in favour.
Chaffe: I question Hillary's judgement about foreign affairs.
Hillary: We debated that in 2008, and it didn't mind Obama to make me Secretary of State.
Moderator on Sanders: What circumstances will you authorize the use force.
Sanders: I heard the same things from Bush and Cheney that Hillary did and I voted no, I will use force only in when america and it's allies are threatened.
O'Malley: no one should take the military option off the table, I agree with Sanders on Iraq but the opinion polls and the public wanted it. A no-fly zone is a mistake in Syria.
Hillary is barbecued on being too aggressive on foreign affairs.
Hillary: I support a no-fly zone because I support the administration to counter the russians.
Benghazi now.
Webb: Syria is because of the Iraq war, the arab spring and the Iran deal. I opposed the Iraq war but China is our greatest threat because they treat they are authoritarian, I'll invade China.
Sanders: "Pardon'me", Putin is going to regret it, he's regretting everything, the russian people will give him a signal.
Clinton: Gaddafi was a murderous dictator, and Cameron and Sarkozi were on the phone screaming, it's their fault along with our arab allies, not mine, Libya had a free election.
Sanders got grilled on gun control. Hillary grilled on being aggressive foreign policy and a weather-vane on domestic policy. Webb is a republican and talks like a republican. On O'Malley I can't find anything wrong so far, boring opening statement. Chafee is easily ignorable, however apart from boring opening statement not a flaw.
Hillary: I may not have made the right choice, i'm transparent and I will testify publicly, the GOP said publicly that it's a witch hunt against me, college and healthy care for everybody.
Moderator: Obama said it is a legitimate issue.
Hillary: The GOP is wasting money, the people want other things.
Sanders: Hillary is right, "the american people don't care about your damn emails", the people care about the real issues.
Hillary: "thank you Bernie"
MOMENT OF THE NIGHT Sanders and Hillary embrace on live TV.
Chaffe: the american people want to know about what is in those emails.
Moderator to Hillary: You want to respond. Hillary: "No"
O'Malley: no one cares about the emails people care about their daily issues.
Morning. Thanks @Speedy for the debate commentary, sounds like they're all waiting for Biden. I think I'll keep laying Hilary (from a betting perspective of course!).
Sanders: Lets remember were we were with Bush, the banks were at fault, free university tuition.
Hillary: Everyone should have the chances we had, I have a 5 point plan, the economy does better with a democrat in the white house.
O'Malley: we did in Maryland what Sanders proposed, we have to re-install Glass-Steagal Act, I supported Hillary but she changed.
Hillary: My plan is complicated, we have to care about that but more about shadow banking, my plan will break big banks if we think they are a risk.
Sanders: Greed is behind this, Wall Street lobbying the Clinton's and the GOP for financial deregulation.
Hillary: I represented Wall Street (oopps), I took on Bush, nobody went to jail, big banks are not the problem.
Sanders: Congress doesn't regulate Wall Street, Wall Street regulates Congess.
Hillary: Erm No I mean.
O'Malley: Hillary is not in favour regulating Wall Street we have to fulfill our promise. Hillary: I never took a position on Keysyone until I took a position to keystone, as people learn over time people learn and erm change my opinion.
Sanders: I said to Paulson "You guys at Goldman Sachs caused this crisis what are you paying for it?"
Webb: I proposed a windfall tax on companies with respect on the financial sector.
Chaffe: I didn't knew what I voted for in the senate.
Education now.
Sanders: Trump and his pals are going to pay much more in taxes, everyone has to have the right to go to college, lets pay it from a Wall Street tax not Hillary's complex plan.
HIllary: I have a plan (again she doesn't say what it is) about college tuition fees, I do believe that students should work 10 hours a week to pay for college.
Round 2 verdict. Hillary still is struggling, it's a very leveled debate and that's bad for Hillary. The "I represented Wall Street" and her too aggressive foreign policy stance is going down badly along with her serious lack of specifics.
O'Malley is doing the best but not by much.
I give so far:
O'Malley Sanders Hillary Chafee Webb
But it's close with the exception of Webb, with the "I'm a liberal republican" he's toast.
Chaffe: the coal lobby. O'Malley: the NRA Hillary: The heath insurance companies, NRA, Iran , GOP Sanders: Wall Street, Pharma's. Webb: The enemy soldier that wounded me.
Closing statements
Chaffe: America has many challenges, I know how to do things because I did it and I never had a scandal and I voted against the Iraq war, i want to be a peacemaker.
Webb: You heard a lot of promises and my record is to take on complex issues, criminal justice reform, national economy justice and bureaucracy, I was at Vietnam and I know how to lead.
O'Malley: I'm very grateful to be on stage, we are very different from republicans, what you heard was an honest debate about clean energy and justice and cities and education and economic inclusion. We are moving to a more generous era of our country (quite a nice speech).
Sanders: We should not be the only country that doesn't have universal healthcare, millions of people need to stand up to the republicans and billionaires, BernieSanders.com
Hillary: We are not republicans, who has the vision, and the tract record, my mother gave me advice, america has been knocked up we are standing but not running, we need to raise incomes, please join me, americas best days are ahead of us.
O'Malley won, he had the best answers though he waffled a lot about green energy, he was the best on most issues and did not had a bad moment, and he also had a good closing statement.
Hillary was mediocre and stumbled badly on the economy, domestic and foreign affairs, not a good night for her, though still tried to save it with her gender card and railing against republicans.
Sanders was going up and down, he's strong on the economy but badly on gun control, a lot of waffle about billionaires, he had a great moment when he defended Hillary on emails.
Chaffe was decent but not so forceful, perhaps the "I did not know what I voted for" was his only bad moment.
Webb is in the wrong party, plain and simple, "I'm a liberal republican" "I love nuclear power" are simply examples of how bad he did in the democratic debate.
Bad news for Hillary, good for O'Malley. Hillary needed to dominate the debate in order to defend her dominant position, she did not, in fact she lost to Sanders and O'Malley and Chaffe came alongside her.
Sue Lloyd Roberts international reporter for ITN and then BBC dies of a rare form of blood cancer aged 62.
Amongst many reports She was the one that exposed the "body parts to order scandal" in China where people were killed to order. As a result she apparently was given 7 years prison in abstentia by Chinese authorities.
Completely OT, but I hope Putin's little helpers are suitably embarrassed (not) by the heroic 'whataboutary' in the Russian responses to the Dutch MH17 report:
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https://wikileaks.org/tpp-ip3/WikiLeaks-TPP-IP-Chapter/WikiLeaks-TPP-IP-Chapter-051015.pdf
The above will cause a world of hurt to companies in North America.
It reminds me of when many financial companies left New York for London after the Sarbanes-Oxley Act in 2002
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/13/business/media/nudes-are-old-news-at-playboy.html?_r=0
Jim Webb is running in the wrong primary, among others he supports guns, tax cuts for companies, spending cuts without defence cuts, cutting environmental regulations, supporting big oil, against obamacare and against the Iran deal, though he supports immigration.
His positions put him somewhere between Rubio and Cruz, not between Hillary and Sanders.
See you in an hour when the debate starts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT3IlVABJXI
Like always I will comment live on the debates.
Someone is on the podium now, I missed his name so I don't who he is but he is already very boring. It's Chafee I think
Jim Webb: "I have a record" blah blah blah Reagan blah blah "my mother chopped strawberries".
O'Malley: I did things in Maryland, Obama saved america but he's not a magician, economic injustice, the economy is bad and it's people and not money.
Sanders: "America is in a crisis", the middle class is ripped of by the 1%, the supreme court corrupted democracy with billionaires, climate change is real, leave fossil fuels hooray green energy, youth unemployment of minorities there are too many jails not many schools.
Hillary: "I'm Hillary Clinton, I was first lady", opportunity for children, I traveled around the country, invest in infrastructure, raise wages, companies share profits with workers, tax system reform, equal pay for women and payed family leave for all, gays and lesbians.
Hillary is railing against the TPP deal.
The moderator hits back and accuses her of changing her opinion depending on the audience.
Hillary: "My father was a worker", lots of waffle (pretty bad answer).
Now to Sanders, the moderator is accusing him of being a socialist.
Sanders: I'm going to explain why social democracy is needed and he proceeds to do so using scandinavian countries.
Moderator: You said you are not a capitalist, how can you win.
Sanders: Excitement will push turnout up, I believe in an equal society not billionaires.
Hillary: Capitalism is small business, not big business, we have to save capitalism from it's self.
Sanders; We are entrepreneurial nation, but every family needs to have it's fair share.
Moderator to Webb: You were a republican, why are you here?
Webb: This is a stone, it's not an issue, it's a block of granite, I'm a liberal Republican (there he goes, bomb).
Moderator: Maryland when to flames when you were governor.
O'Malley: I ran as governor to turn around, and reduce crime but I attended lots of funerals, I saved thousands of black lives in Baltimore.
Moderator: A huge number of arrests were made without cause, you were sued.
O'Malley: we restored peace.
Moderator to Webb: Are you out of step with the democratic party for being against affirmative action.
Webb: I'm where the democratic party was originally (in 1850 probably)
Moderator to Sanders: Why are you against gun control.
Sanders: The NRA rates me badly, in 1974 I said to the people of Vermont that blah blah blah, mental health care is in crisis, a legal sale of guns in Vermont should not be responsible for the actions on guns.
Hillary: Sanders is weak on guns, someone has to stand up to the NRA, Sanders voted against the Brady bill, Sanders wanted to give immunity to gun makers.
Sanders: All the shouting of the world won't do a thing about guns, make background checks.
Moderator to O'Malley: How are you going to pass gun control through Congress.
O'Malley: I will because I did it in Maryland, I brought 2 gun victims to the audience.
Sanders: We can raise our voices, rural states think differently than urban states, I will bring them together.
O'Malley vs Sanders fight.
Moderator to Webb: You said that more guns reduce gun crime.
Webb: most people that die from guns are gang members, we need background checks, defend gun tradition.
Moderator to Chaffe: what about you
Chaffe: the gun lobby is behind this, we need to bring the NRA in.
Moderator to Hillary: You did the reset, did you underestimate him.
Hillary: we made the Iran deal, we had to stand up to Putin's bullying, I support talks with him about Syria.
Sanders: Syria is a quagmire in a quagmire, everyone is fighting everyone, I learned lessons from war from the Iraq war, support the arabs but not american troops.
Moderator to Chafee: You voted against the Iraq war, and you said that Hillary should be disqualified for voting in favour.
Chaffe: I question Hillary's judgement about foreign affairs.
Hillary: We debated that in 2008, and it didn't mind Obama to make me Secretary of State.
Moderator on Sanders: What circumstances will you authorize the use force.
Sanders: I heard the same things from Bush and Cheney that Hillary did and I voted no, I will use force only in when america and it's allies are threatened.
O'Malley: no one should take the military option off the table, I agree with Sanders on Iraq but the opinion polls and the public wanted it.
A no-fly zone is a mistake in Syria.
Hillary: I support a no-fly zone because I support the administration to counter the russians.
Benghazi now.
Webb: Syria is because of the Iraq war, the arab spring and the Iran deal. I opposed the Iraq war but China is our greatest threat because they treat they are authoritarian, I'll invade China.
Sanders: "Pardon'me", Putin is going to regret it, he's regretting everything, the russian people will give him a signal.
Clinton: Gaddafi was a murderous dictator, and Cameron and Sarkozi were on the phone screaming, it's their fault along with our arab allies, not mine, Libya had a free election.
Webb: We had no alliances or treaties with Libya, Obama should had come to congress first.
Moderator: Is Sanders qualified to be president by refusing to serve in Vietnam.
Webb; I came from a military family.
Sanders: I opposed strongly the Vietnam war, though I'm not a pacifist, I supported all the wars except Iraq.
Chaffe: Webb is wrong to say that the Iran deal was behind russia in syria.
Webb: The Iran deal sent the wrong signal to Israel and Saud Arabia.
Moderator: what is the biggest threat.
Chaffe: middle east chaos.
O'Malley: Terrorism climate change.
Sanders: Climate change.
Webb: China
Hillary: waffle.
Sanders got grilled on gun control.
Hillary grilled on being aggressive foreign policy and a weather-vane on domestic policy.
Webb is a republican and talks like a republican.
On O'Malley I can't find anything wrong so far, boring opening statement.
Chafee is easily ignorable, however apart from boring opening statement not a flaw.
Hillary is having huge trouble.
Moderator: Hillary Emails.
Hillary: I may not have made the right choice, i'm transparent and I will testify publicly, the GOP said publicly that it's a witch hunt against me, college and healthy care for everybody.
Moderator: Obama said it is a legitimate issue.
Hillary: The GOP is wasting money, the people want other things.
Sanders: Hillary is right, "the american people don't care about your damn emails", the people care about the real issues.
Hillary: "thank you Bernie"
MOMENT OF THE NIGHT Sanders and Hillary embrace on live TV.
Chaffe: the american people want to know about what is in those emails.
Moderator to Hillary: You want to respond.
Hillary: "No"
O'Malley: no one cares about the emails people care about their daily issues.
Do all lives matter or black lives matter?
Sanders: Black lives matter (wrong answer), criminal justice system is broken.
O'Malley: It's a legitimate question, when I ran for Mayor of Baltimore, black lives matter.
Hillary: Obama has led on moral issues, the GOP has blocked him, following commission reports, we have to imprison less people, new new deal.
Webb: Every life matters (right answer), we started the national debate, I defended a black marine in Vietnam, I take risks, I'm your man.
Sanders: Lets remember were we were with Bush, the banks were at fault, free university tuition.
Hillary: Everyone should have the chances we had, I have a 5 point plan, the economy does better with a democrat in the white house.
O'Malley: we did in Maryland what Sanders proposed, we have to re-install Glass-Steagal Act, I supported Hillary but she changed.
Hillary: My plan is complicated, we have to care about that but more about shadow banking, my plan will break big banks if we think they are a risk.
Sanders: Greed is behind this, Wall Street lobbying the Clinton's and the GOP for financial deregulation.
Hillary: I represented Wall Street (oopps), I took on Bush, nobody went to jail, big banks are not the problem.
Sanders: Congress doesn't regulate Wall Street, Wall Street regulates Congess.
Hillary: Erm No I mean.
O'Malley: Hillary is not in favour regulating Wall Street we have to fulfill our promise.
Hillary: I never took a position on Keysyone until I took a position to keystone, as people learn over time people learn and erm change my opinion.
Sanders: I said to Paulson "You guys at Goldman Sachs caused this crisis what are you paying for it?"
Webb: I proposed a windfall tax on companies with respect on the financial sector.
Chaffe: I didn't knew what I voted for in the senate.
Education now.
Sanders: Trump and his pals are going to pay much more in taxes, everyone has to have the right to go to college, lets pay it from a Wall Street tax not Hillary's complex plan.
HIllary: I have a plan (again she doesn't say what it is) about college tuition fees, I do believe that students should work 10 hours a week to pay for college.
Moderator to Sanders, you voted against the Bush immigration reform.
Sanders: I voted against the bush immigration reform because it had slavery provisions for cheap labour.
Hillary: every child should have healthcare including immigrants under obamacare, but only in a comprehensive reform.
O'Malley: I love immigrants.
Webb: I don't have a problem, my wife is an immigrant from Vietnam.
Hillary: The republicans demonize immigrants.
Immigration is probably the only area so far that Hillary is doing OK.
Chafee: It was another 99-1 vote.
Hillary: The patriot act was necessary, but Bush twisted it.
Sanders: I was the 1 that voted against, I would shut down the NSA surveillance program, everyone is snooping on ourselves.
Chaffe: I will bring Snowden back home.
Hillary: Snowden stole things .
O'Malley: Snowden did the wrong thing.
Sanders: Snowden did break the law but he did the right thing.
Webb: Snowden is not the issue, regulating the spy system is.
Chafee: No wars, no funding for syrian rebels, no drone strikes.
O'Malley: I would follow the promise to protect mainstreet from Wall Street.
Hillary: First woman president, I have plans.
Sanders: I have respect with Obama but we need a political revolution and people need to stand up together against billionaires.
Webb: The revolution is not going to come, I would not use executive authority.
O'Malley: we need a green revolution.
Hillary still is struggling, it's a very leveled debate and that's bad for Hillary.
The "I represented Wall Street" and her too aggressive foreign policy stance is going down badly along with her serious lack of specifics.
O'Malley is doing the best but not by much.
I give so far:
O'Malley
Sanders
Hillary
Chafee
Webb
But it's close with the exception of Webb, with the "I'm a liberal republican" he's toast.
Moderator, the presidency is not a crown to be passed and forth between families.
Hillary: I'm a woman so i'm not an insider, I have plans.
O'Malley: New leadership and getting things done, going back to old names will not make us go forwards.
Hillary: Don't vote for me because i'm Clinton, vote for my record and not a republican.
Sanders: I'm the only one running who is not a billionaire.
O'Malley: I have a plan, no fossil fuels by 2050, tax credits from solar and wind.
Moderator to Webb; you are in favour of coal and oil are you out of place?
Webb: I'm a fervent support of Nuclear power (bombs again).
Sanders: I'm with the Pope, tax carbon, the oil companies fund the GOP, it's a moral thing.
Hillary: I hunted the chinese in Copenhagen, Obama and I did an agreement with china at the end of this year
Hillary: California has a paid leave for years, the republicans are liars as usual, consensus, world, abortion plan parenthood, republicans are bad.
Sanders: in the rest of the world, when a woman has a baby she stays at home with her baby, Hillary is right republicans are bad hypocrites.
O'Malley: the economy will be better with paid maternity leave.
Sanders: I would vote for marijuana, criminal justice reform.
Hillary: I'm not going to take a position, medical marijuana yes, prison sentences no.
Congress question.
Sanders: the republican party is terrible, they say no no no, the voters will have to defeat the republicans in congress.
Round 3 verdict.
Hillary steadying, O'Malley is still ahead, and Webb is still in the wrong primary.
Sanders is doing OK but not as good as O'Malley.
It's still mostly balanced.
Which enemies are you proud of question
Chaffe: the coal lobby.
O'Malley: the NRA
Hillary: The heath insurance companies, NRA, Iran , GOP
Sanders: Wall Street, Pharma's.
Webb: The enemy soldier that wounded me.
Closing statements
Chaffe: America has many challenges, I know how to do things because I did it and I never had a scandal and I voted against the Iraq war, i want to be a peacemaker.
Webb: You heard a lot of promises and my record is to take on complex issues, criminal justice reform, national economy justice and bureaucracy, I was at Vietnam and I know how to lead.
O'Malley: I'm very grateful to be on stage, we are very different from republicans, what you heard was an honest debate about clean energy and justice and cities and education and economic inclusion.
We are moving to a more generous era of our country (quite a nice speech).
Sanders: We should not be the only country that doesn't have universal healthcare, millions of people need to stand up to the republicans and billionaires, BernieSanders.com
And it's over.
O'Malley won, he had the best answers though he waffled a lot about green energy, he was the best on most issues and did not had a bad moment, and he also had a good closing statement.
Hillary was mediocre and stumbled badly on the economy, domestic and foreign affairs, not a good night for her, though still tried to save it with her gender card and railing against republicans.
Sanders was going up and down, he's strong on the economy but badly on gun control, a lot of waffle about billionaires, he had a great moment when he defended Hillary on emails.
Chaffe was decent but not so forceful, perhaps the "I did not know what I voted for" was his only bad moment.
Webb is in the wrong party, plain and simple, "I'm a liberal republican" "I love nuclear power" are simply examples of how bad he did in the democratic debate.
All in all my marks are:
O'Malley 7/10
Sanders 6/10
Hillary 5/10
Chafee 5/10
Webb 1/10
Bad news for Hillary, good for O'Malley.
Hillary needed to dominate the debate in order to defend her dominant position, she did not, in fact she lost to Sanders and O'Malley and Chaffe came alongside her.
If only politicians had the guts to call out Hamas and others on this.
Sue Lloyd Roberts international reporter for ITN and then BBC dies of a rare form of blood cancer aged 62.
Amongst many reports She was the one that exposed the "body parts to order scandal" in China where people were killed to order. As a result she apparently was given 7 years prison in abstentia by Chinese authorities.
BBc news.
http://cdn.onderzoeksraad.nl/documents/appendix-v-consultation-part-a.pdf