@election_data @election_data · 2m2 minutes ago My map showing the seats which will change hands in 2020 as a DIRECT result of that speech (highlighted in red):
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True story: an Obama-voting American said to a Labour friend of mine the other day, "We'd love Cameron as a Democrat president. What's your problem?"
Et voila.
Plenty of moderate conservatives (by British standards) vote Democrat given the alternative they face. I'd also question whether an American really 'gets' Cameron or just sees his media image.
This was a very smart, very well informed American who lives half his time in the UK, so the remark was made with all the facts to hand.
And of course it is true. Cameron's Tories = mainstream Democrats. Mainstream Republicans = UKIP.
There is no serious equivalent in America politics for the Corbynite Labour party - in all its terrorist kissing, money-printing, Britain-hating, spittle-gobbing madness.
I don't think that's quite right: I'd peg Tories = RINOs, although obviously the RINOs have been badly squeezed over the last 10 years.
The GOP is where the Tories would be if UKIP had won...
I'd have Cameron as an Obamacan.
Obamacam?
OK, probably time to do some proper work.
I think Obama would be delighted with a centrally planned economy, but knows he can't get there. Cameron wants to introduce the disciplines of the market into areas where the state is an important stakeholder.
They may end up in similar places but the underlying philosophy is totally different
I thought Cameron was excellent on religious extremism and ending discrimination.
Not sure about much of the rest. The Tories are making big promises on immigration, housing and incomes that a decent opposition would be able to hold them to account over. Unfortunately, there isn't one, so the Tories essentially have a free pass.
It was a good speech, right for the moment, right for the current state of the opposition, and of course right for Cons supporters.
There is one hole which will probably not go away and I wish they would plug it - namely that there will be losers with tax credit reform.
Everyone including Cam himself and Gove just now on WatO skirts round the issue. I suppose it is not allowed in today's soundbite economy to tell it like it is - that the Cons want to rebalance the economy away from tax credits (for reasons well-rehearsed on here), and as a result, as things stand, and during the transition...some people will be worse off.
But it leaves the wound open and me as a Cons supporter uneasy. If there was a halfway decent opposition (rather than much more bat awayable media questioning), it would be a problem.
Mr Stevens, the 49-year-old head of the NHS, urged ministers not to go too far clamping down on immigration. He said: 'Understandably we're having a national discussion about how to get immigration right. 'My responsibility is to point out that at time when the need for nurses is growing, when publicly funded UK nurse training places will take several years to expand, and when agency staff costs are driving hospital overspends right now, we need to better 'join up the dots' on immigration policy and the NHS. 'However most nurses I speak to struggle to understand why our immigration rules define ballet dancers as a shortage occupation - but not nursing. 'And most hospitals tell me that the idea that we would seriously consider deporting some of our most experienced and committed nurses solely because they're not earning £35,000 clearly needs a rethink.'
@election_data @election_data · 2m2 minutes ago My map showing the seats which will change hands in 2020 as a DIRECT result of that speech (highlighted in red):
There is no serious equivalent in America politics for the Corbynite Labour party - in all its terrorist kissing, money-printing, Britain-hating, spittle-gobbing madness.
Bernie Sanders ?
Not even close. Bernie can go to Regent University (ultra right, ultra conservative Christian college, set up by Pat Robertson) and deliver a commencement speech that deserves and gains the respect of his audience (and the media). He is not a US-basher, and whatever you think of his populist left-wing economics, they at least form a coherent philosophy which would in fact be pretty mainstream in the European centre left.
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He's dropped oblique hints that not all of his suggestions were followed up on.
I guess he's looking for an increasing majority in this parliament.
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NHS England chief executive Simon Stevens has warned the UK needs to ‘better join the dots’ between immigration policy and the NHS.
They may end up in similar places but the underlying philosophy is totally different
There is one hole which will probably not go away and I wish they would plug it - namely that there will be losers with tax credit reform.
Everyone including Cam himself and Gove just now on WatO skirts round the issue. I suppose it is not allowed in today's soundbite economy to tell it like it is - that the Cons want to rebalance the economy away from tax credits (for reasons well-rehearsed on here), and as a result, as things stand, and during the transition...some people will be worse off.
But it leaves the wound open and me as a Cons supporter uneasy. If there was a halfway decent opposition (rather than much more bat awayable media questioning), it would be a problem.
#CameronSpeech reminder how much of a singular disaster the election of #Corbyn as leader is for @UKLabour. #Despair
He said: 'Understandably we're having a national discussion about how to get immigration right.
'My responsibility is to point out that at time when the need for nurses is growing, when publicly funded UK nurse training places will take several years to expand, and when agency staff costs are driving hospital overspends right now, we need to better 'join up the dots' on immigration policy and the NHS.
'However most nurses I speak to struggle to understand why our immigration rules define ballet dancers as a shortage occupation - but not nursing.
'And most hospitals tell me that the idea that we would seriously consider deporting some of our most experienced and committed nurses solely because they're not earning £35,000 clearly needs a rethink.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3262130/NHS-chief-demands-urgent-rethink-government-s-immigration-clampdown-amid-fears-crisis-nurse-numbers.html#ixzz3nsxtWqdZ
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