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  • Mr. Moses, if it's as accurate as his grasp of history then you're quite safe, unless you're planning on spending a holiday on Mars.
  • ReggieCideReggieCide Posts: 4,312
    MaxPB said:

    A surprisingly thoughtful article from Charles Moore. Definitely a top piece and worth reading:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11859029/Nothing-has-changed-in-25-years-toease-my-concerns-about-Islam.html

    It is something I would expect from our own SeanT.

    I don't think JC would approve and that supports your contention.
  • Apparently being in the armed forces and defending your country is not an honourable profession..according to a Scot.. Gonna be a lot of Fine Scottish regiments disagree with that assumption..

    You mean the one Scottish regiment.
    Don't be silly.
    There are several battalions (7) in the Royal Regiment of Scotland which is much more a 'brigade' or 'division' than a regiment.
    So that's the one regiment then.
    No - 7
    'The Royal Regiment of Scotland is the senior and only Scottish line infantry regiment'

    I'd say don't be a fecking moron if I didn't know that battle was long lost.
    There are 7 Scots infantry battalions
    Royal Scots Borderers
    Royal Highland Fusiliers
    The Black Watch
    The Highlanders
    Balaclava Company
    52nd Lowland Battalion
    51st Highland Battalion
    The last two are reserve units (and yes the 5th is an independent company sized unit, but it reflects the Argyle and Sutherland Highlanders), but the reserves are an expanded force under the new arrangements.
    As I pointed out the RRoS is much more of an administrative organisation aimed at giving flexibility to battalion deployment. Each battalion operates in a distinct location with its own Lt Colonel. Each has its own 'Royal Colonel'

    This notion was the brainchild I think of Gen Jackson quite a few years ago.
  • Dr. Spyn, not sure. Two have reportedly resigned.

    Edited extra bit: that'll teach me to pay attention :pensive:

    Trying to write some horror. Think it must be like writing porn. It's either not that good, or so good it's difficult to keep going.

    Small plug - written an unrelated horror short story as part of the below anthology, the proceeds of which entirely go to animal charity (the WWF):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Prey-Seven-Tales-Beastly-Terror-ebook/dp/B00N37ZAPM/

    I reckon it's more like home made porn.

    Sounds like a good idea at first, but when you sit back and look at your production for the first time, you feel really sick and think what the feck was I thinking.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Split in Corbyn camp over whether Shadow Chancellor should be McDonnell or Eagle...
    http://news.sky.com/story/1551400/corbyn-seeks-unity-amid-frontbench-exodus
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,033
    Also totally forgotten about the impending DUP dynamics now that Corbyns been elected. Even more interesting given the current situation.
  • Mr. Eagles, there's a similar issue with humour (assessing your own work's really difficult), but with horror there's the added concern that one is a massive coward, and the things that feel horror-ish to me don't to others.

    Mind you, first drafts are often bloody rough. One nice thing about short stories is that even a substantial redraft doesn't take too long.
  • SeanT said:

    One thing going unnoticed, though noticeable below, is just how much Corbyn will galvanise the Right (and indeed everyone else who isn't an IRA loving, Bin Laden felching Marxist loon).

    Sure Corbyn will fire up the Jezbollah, but he presents a clear and present danger to the prosperity and security of the UK. I suspect we will see a huge polarisation, as frightened moderates and kippers hold their noses and vote Tory, to keep him away from Downing Street, even as the crazies loft Corb on their shoulders.

    CON: 44
    LAB: 24
    UKIP: 11
    LD: 6

    I had this discussion with first 1) a Labour activist friend who thinks like you do.

    I then discussed it here with Sean Fear, who thinks it might actually mean more Tories vote UKIP, safe in the knowledge that the country will never elect Corbyn
  • malcolmg said:

    Sandpit said:


    25 quid to join, I did today.
    https://www.conservatives.com/join

    what a waste of £25, better throwing it in the bin.
    I don't understand why someone would shop around for a party to join as I've heard a couple of people seeming to describe themselves doing on here lately. None of them sufficiently match my views for me to want to join (or are as so small as to be a waste of time because they have no local presence). In fact, I haven't been the member of any group or club for quite some time, or at least I hadn't until a couple of minutes ago when I joined CAMRA for £16.50 (full time student rate). Will more than make that back in beer discounts and reduced entry to festivals in the next year so a fairly safe investment!
    Corbyn's election has made me seriously consider joining either the Conservatives or the Lib Dems, and I'm someone who has been rather sceptical of why anyone would join a political party.

    I've been looking at their websites online, and there are things I like, and things that annoy me, about both. But Corbyn is such a distinct threat to the country that I feel a need to do something.

    Perhaps I'll join the Lib Dems this year, and swap over to the Conservatives next year ...
  • ReggieCideReggieCide Posts: 4,312

    RobD.. He tends to change his mind every few days..that's what probably cost him a lot of votes.. he might have to check with his mum first..

    I thought he tossed a coin. Asking his mum is much more sensible.
  • Mr. Eagles, polling may affect that situation. If things look close or even close-ish, I'd guess Kippers will turn blue to avoid Britain turning red. If Cameron, or his successor, enjoys 20 point leads then half of northern England could go purple.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited September 2015
    Sky: "signs are he will be able to form a Shadow Cabinet..."
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,046
    an adroit political commentator.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    RodCrosby said:

    Split in Corbyn camp over whether Shadow Chancellor should be McDonnell or Eagle...
    http://news.sky.com/story/1551400/corbyn-seeks-unity-amid-frontbench-exodus

    Jobshare?
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658

    SeanT said:

    One thing going unnoticed, though noticeable below, is just how much Corbyn will galvanise the Right (and indeed everyone else who isn't an IRA loving, Bin Laden felching Marxist loon).

    Sure Corbyn will fire up the Jezbollah, but he presents a clear and present danger to the prosperity and security of the UK. I suspect we will see a huge polarisation, as frightened moderates and kippers hold their noses and vote Tory, to keep him away from Downing Street, even as the crazies loft Corb on their shoulders.

    CON: 44
    LAB: 24
    UKIP: 11
    LD: 6

    I had this discussion with first 1) a Labour activist friend who thinks like you do.

    I then discussed it here with Sean Fear, who thinks it might actually mean more Tories vote UKIP, safe in the knowledge that the country will never elect Corbyn
    It depends really on whether he gains any traction in the polls, doesn't it? It basically gives the Tories an insurance against him doing unexpectedly well.
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    RodCrosby said:

    Sky: "signs are he will be able to form a Shadow Cabinet..."

    High barrier been set.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,988
    edited September 2015
    OMFG - ISIS' latest plan to attack Britain

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COup5PNXAAAGIQR.jpg
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    RodCrosby said:

    Sky: "signs are he will be able to form a Shadow Cabinet..."

    from IKEA?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,046

    OMFG - ISIS' latest plan to attack Britain

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COup5PNXAAAGIQR.jpg

    LOL ahahahahaha
  • Apparently being in the armed forces and defending your country is not an honourable profession..according to a Scot.. Gonna be a lot of Fine Scottish regiments disagree with that assumption..

    You mean the one Scottish regiment.
    Don't be silly.
    There are several battalions (7) in the Royal Regiment of Scotland which is much more a 'brigade' or 'division' than a regiment.
    So that's the one regiment then.
    No - 7
    'The Royal Regiment of Scotland is the senior and only Scottish line infantry regiment'

    I'd say don't be a fecking moron if I didn't know that battle was long lost.
    There are 7 Scots infantry battalions
    Royal Scots Borderers
    Royal Highland Fusiliers
    The Black Watch
    The Highlanders
    Balaclava Company
    52nd Lowland Battalion
    51st Highland Battalion
    The last two are reserve units (and yes the 5th is an independent company sized unit, but it reflects the Argyle and Sutherland Highlanders), but the reserves are an expanded force under the new arrangements.
    As I pointed out the RRoS is much more of an administrative organisation aimed at giving flexibility to battalion deployment. Each battalion operates in a distinct location with its own Lt Colonel. Each has its own 'Royal Colonel'

    This notion was the brainchild I think of Gen Jackson quite a few years ago.
    Battalions are SMALLER than regiments
  • SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    One thing going unnoticed, though noticeable below, is just how much Corbyn will galvanise the Right (and indeed everyone else who isn't an IRA loving, Bin Laden felching Marxist loon).

    Sure Corbyn will fire up the Jezbollah, but he presents a clear and present danger to the prosperity and security of the UK. I suspect we will see a huge polarisation, as frightened moderates and kippers hold their noses and vote Tory, to keep him away from Downing Street, even as the crazies loft Corb on their shoulders.

    CON: 44
    LAB: 24
    UKIP: 11
    LD: 6

    I had this discussion with first 1) a Labour activist friend who thinks like you do.

    I then discussed it here with Sean Fear, who thinks it might actually mean more Tories vote UKIP, safe in the knowledge that the country will never elect Corbyn
    Judging by Twitter (I know, I know) the kippers are slightly scared and seriously contemptuous, and are veering back to the Tories.
    You have to remember there's an EU referendum in the offing and Cameron leads Remain to a comfortable victory and the Kippers think it was an unfair referendum then the Kipper switchback might not happen
  • "Comrades, this is your Leadership Candidate. It is an honour to speak to you today, and I am honoured to be sailing with you on the maiden voyage of our motherland's most recent achievement. Once more, we play our dangerous game, a game of chess against our old adversary — The Conservative Party! For a hundred years, your fathers before you and your older brothers played this game and played it well. But today the game is different. We have the advantage. It reminds me of the heady days of 1945 and Clement Atlee, when the world trembled at the sound of our Nationalisations! Well, they will tremble again — at the sound of our Progressiveness. The order is: engage the Corbyn Drive!

    "Comrades, our own Parliamentary Party don't know our full potential. They will do everything possible to test us; but they will only test their own embarrassment. We will leave our MPs behind, we will pass through the Conservative patrols, past their sonar nets, and lay off their largest constituency, and listen to their chortling and tittering... while we conduct Austerity Debates! Then, and when we are finished, the only sound they will hear is our laughter, while we sail to Havana, where the sun is warm, and so is the... Comradeship!

    "A great day, Comrades! We sail into history!"

  • JWisemannJWisemann Posts: 1,082
    'A surprisingly thoughtful article... something I'd expect from our own SeanT'
    Not adjectives and nouns I'd often expect to be seen together, undoubted fan though I am of his prose, on here at least.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited September 2015
    dr_spyn said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Sky: "signs are he will be able to form a Shadow Cabinet..."

    from IKEA?
    more likely the charity shop...
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,046

    "A great day, Comrades! We sail into history!"

    Love it :D Although he is no longer a leadership candidate, he is General Secretary and Chairman in waiting.
  • RobD said:

    OMFG - ISIS' latest plan to attack Britain

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COup5PNXAAAGIQR.jpg

    LOL ahahahahaha
    You laugh but I recently saw this.

    Watch How Easily A Rat Can Wriggle Up Your Toilet

    http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/how-easily-can-rat-wriggle-your-toilet
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,046

    RobD said:

    OMFG - ISIS' latest plan to attack Britain

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COup5PNXAAAGIQR.jpg

    LOL ahahahahaha
    You laugh but I recently saw this.

    Watch How Easily A Rat Can Wriggle Up Your Toilet

    http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/how-easily-can-rat-wriggle-your-toilet
    I always check before sitting down ;)
  • Moses_ said:

    The most unedifying spectacle on here today has to be the left wingers squirming around trying and failing to justify Corbyn not attending PMQs. I always base their answers, arrogance and particular hypocriscy on what they would have said and how they would have reacted if for example Cameron had done the same as LOTO. They were have torn hm to shreds without fail. They would have accused him of cowardice. Jeez one leftie on here even managed to blame Cameron for Corbyn not dong PMQS calling him a bully
    WTF.? Labour andCorbyn.... You deserve each other. Let the hunting begin they don't call it the glorious twelfth for nothing.

    I agree and as soon as Corbyn changes his mind they will all squirm and agree again. I think someone has already refered to 'Life of Brian'.
    What we have is wishful thinking from the new leadership as a method of policy making.
    Of course it now begins as all the new advisers chip in their 2 pennyworth and stake their claims on this new policy gold field, and then new divisions and rivalries will start amongst the new elite.

    We do I think have to take our hats off to you for your songwriting efforts.

  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,977
    edited September 2015
    Mr. Eagles, I think that's only partially true. Whilst the EU is the raison d'etre for UKIP, that doesn't extend to all (or perhaps even a majority) of its supporters).

    And the prospect of Corbyn will worry many.

    Edited extra bit: it's easy to stop a rat wriggling up the toilet. To be safe, all you need do is put a snake down it first.
  • Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk
  • MyBurningEarsMyBurningEars Posts: 3,651
    edited September 2015
    LucyJones said:

    RodCrosby said:

    'It is understood that Andy Burnham, who came second in the leadership contest, is now unsure as to whether he will take up an invitation to work with Corbyn. One source said Burnham had been approached but that the chances of him joining the shadow cabinet were “slim”.'
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/12/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leader-mps-party-split

    Burham still playing the dithering nincompoop, even though the contest is over. #wally
    Heard this one the other day:

    "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..... it's probably Andy Burnham after being told to be more duck-like "

    That's excellent! Poor old Andy. He did look sad today didn't he just? Bless 'im. That, and wot Tim said.
  • Mr. Eagles, she's off her bloody rocker.

    Is she trying to make Cameron campaign for Out?
  • Mr. Eagles, I think that's only partially true. Whilst the EU is the raison d'etre for UKIP, that doesn't extend to all (or perhaps even a majority) of its supporters).

    And the prospect of Corbyn will worry many.

    Edited extra bit: it's easy to stop a rat wriggling up the toilet. To be safe, all you need do is put a snake down it first.

    Out of the four things that scare me, three of them are rats, snakes and (public) toilets
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,046

    Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    Is that a problem if we are in a two-tier Europe where such proposals wouldn't apply to us?
  • Mr. Eagles, is the fourth having your poor understanding of classical history brutally exposed on a public forum?
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    ydoethur said:

    Anecdote to finish. A friend of mine, who works in the public sector, rang up this morning very pleased with the news Corbyn had won, although he was laughing at the silliness of the idea of this stupid old man trying to run a major party.

    I then explained to him what this means. It is an untrammelled licence to Cameron and Osborne to do what they like. Expect benefit cuts, tax cuts, and an all-out war on the Equalities Act. Expect further that they will drive through more radical reform of the public sector - the NHS, schools and universities - and their funding models. Also expect major cuts in staffing.

    Now, some of these may be good things, on their own. But will they be done well? No. Because there is no reason to be careful, or scrupulous, or to think through the consequences, when Britain is a one-party state. Even though I do not credit Cameron and Osborne with the malice imputed to them by Labour, there is no doubt that they are prone to arrogance and also very prone to error. So these things, taken together, will be a shambles - possibly an expensive one too, but let's just concentrate on the fact it will be bad government.

    He went quiet for a while. Then he said, 'Yes, you're right.' And the reason he was unnerved is both because his job is in the firing line on this scenario, and because he genuinely cares about the poor and disabled and is fearful about the impact of further cuts on them.

    Corbyn's supporters will blame the government. They should blame themselves. For while Cooper and Burnham could not have won an election, they would have kept the government from complacency, and that's a damn good second.

    Labour have betrayed the people of this country - most of all those they claim to care about - in an act of pathetic, futile and disgusting self-indulgence by electing a man who is 'right on' message and completely, hopelessly, out of his depth. They deserve the opprobrium they will receive. What we need, and fast, is a replacement for them.

    Good night, on this dark night for our democracy.

    But the Government is already losing votes in the Commons - and faces a Tory rebellion on its Tax Credit plans!
  • Right-wingers will vote UKIP where they are in second place to Labour I'd imagine of which there are a lot up North.

  • RobD said:

    Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    Is that a problem if we are in a two-tier Europe where such proposals wouldn't apply to us?
    It would undermine NATO. I love NATO as much as I love discussions on electoral reforms.
  • Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    I seem to recall Farage being ridiculed for claiming the EU wanted an EU army.

  • Mr. Eagles, is the fourth having your poor understanding of classical history brutally exposed on a public forum?

    You silly sausage.

    My fourth fear is losing my legendary subtlety
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    edited September 2015

    Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    You a BOOer now?
    Nick Clegg said the idea of an EU Army was a "Dangerous Fantasy"
  • ReggieCideReggieCide Posts: 4,312
    RodCrosby said:

    RobD said:

    RodCrosby said:

    'It is understood that Andy Burnham, who came second in the leadership contest, is now unsure as to whether he will take up an invitation to work with Corbyn. One source said Burnham had been approached but that the chances of him joining the shadow cabinet were “slim”.'
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/12/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leader-mps-party-split

    Lol, didn't he say he would a few days ago?
    I guess quite a few a bricking it. If Corbyn ends up being destroyed by some as yet unrevealed skeleton unveiled by the MSM, their judgment in agreeing to serve will be questioned...
    I agree but I think it goes further than that. JC will fail and fail badly. What is in doubt is how long the process will take and the extent of the damage that will be done in the process of that failure. I believe that JC will have to rely on others whose sole chance of any influence is as his lackey. No one with an eye on power in the future, young enough to last out the JC phase and its aftermath, will prejudice their individual chance of power by serving under JC.

    Politics is about power and whatever politicians might say about service means very little if anything. Democracy gives the ordinary Joes and Janes the chance of power that monarchies and religion enjoyed in the past (except that Islam still has huge power, for good and ill).
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,515
    edited September 2015

    OMFG - ISIS' latest plan to attack Britain

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COup5PNXAAAGIQR.jpg

    Hmmm. I got bitten by a spider earlier ...

    I didn't stop to ask if it was Christian, Muslim, atheist or agnostic. Perhaps I should have arranged a diversity questionnaire for it:

    Q15: How did you enter the country?
    a) On some bananas
    b) On the back of an immigrant on the back of a lorry
    c) Riding on a gun.
    d) I'm English!
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Tim_B said:



    A for effort but you are two syllables short on the first line...

    Does 'super-labby/labour-catastrophic-corbyn-is-atrocious' work?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,046

    OMFG - ISIS' latest plan to attack Britain

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COup5PNXAAAGIQR.jpg

    Hmmm. I got bitten by a spider earlier ...
    Bugger! Was nice knowing you :(
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    MTimT said:

    Tim_B said:



    A for effort but you are two syllables short on the first line...

    Does 'super-labby/labour-catastrophic-corbyn-is-atrocious' work?
    Indeed it does ;)
  • MP_SE said:

    Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    You a BOOer now?
    Nick Clegg said the idea of an EU Army was a "Dangerous Fantasy"

    Provisional BOOer thanks to Casino Royale's gentle persuasion and discussions.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,977
    edited September 2015
    Mr. Eagles, you tinker.

    Miss Jones, he was, and someone posted evidence such a thing was in the offing.

    The EU is a bloody undemocratic disaster.

    Mr. Sulphate, not my area, but I gather that's a lot of the north-east (where the purples racked up many second places this year). In Yorkshire, the North will stay blue, and I'd guess Kippers will vote tactically [to an extent] in the West. In the People's Republic of South Yorkshire, there might be unofficial tactical co-operation, or the purples might just get blue tactical votes [although the Conservatives don't really seem to do tactical voting].

    Edited extra bit: Mr. SE, when it comes to the EU, Clegg is a fanatical clown.
  • The election of Jeremy Corbyn is astonishing and I find it highly unlikely that he will lead in the polls because the refugee migrant crisis will dominate the news over the next few years. Germany and others are having doubts even now about Merkels decision to allow nearly 1 million into Germany this year and Corbyn supporting the unlimited access to Europe and demanding the UK accepts more than the 20,000 already agreed will be a big vote loser.

    The migrant issue is just a recruiting drum (well actually a soporific) for his marxist fellow travellers. Plus - G7. Anti-austerity. Anti globalisation. Anti NATO. And Anti War of course. The last two of which just cloak pacifism and surrender to Putin, well to anyone who opposes America really.
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 1,893
    Angela Eagle really doesn't seem the anti austerity type, surprised she is even being linked with the position of Shadow Chancellor. McDonnell would make more sense.
  • OMFG - ISIS' latest plan to attack Britain

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COup5PNXAAAGIQR.jpg

    Hmmm. I got bitten by a spider earlier ...
    Is your name Peter Parker or Miles Morales?
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    Mail - Red and Buried.
  • The Mail on Sunday seems to have a new poll:

    @suttonnick: Mail on Sunday front page:
    Red and Buried
    #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers http://t.co/gzyFzXQnLu
  • RobD said:

    OMFG - ISIS' latest plan to attack Britain

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COup5PNXAAAGIQR.jpg

    Hmmm. I got bitten by a spider earlier ...
    Bugger! Was nice knowing you :(
    The spot on my neck where I got bitten has come up quite red and slightly swollen. As far as I can recall, it's the first time I've ever been bitten. It was a small blighter as well.
  • MP_SE said:

    Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    You a BOOer now?
    Nick Clegg said the idea of an EU Army was a "Dangerous Fantasy"
    Provisional BOOer thanks to Casino Royale's gentle persuasion and discussions.

    Seems quite a few PBers are drifting towards "Leave". Not heard of anyone moving from "Leave" to "Stay". With Merkel acting like a BOO plant, can't see that changing.

  • MP_SE said:

    Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    You a BOOer now?
    Nick Clegg said the idea of an EU Army was a "Dangerous Fantasy"
    Provisional BOOer thanks to Casino Royale's gentle persuasion and discussions.

    Good to see it, TSE!
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Not so long ago, some people on here thought I was a "loony leftie" just because I said I didn't care how high the deficit was, that I thought spending should be increased, and that Miliband wasn't left-wing enough for me.

    Turns out I'm to the right of the average Labour member.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516

    Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    yes but WTF is Cameron re negotiating ?

    anyone got a clue ?
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Mr. Eagles, I think that's only partially true. Whilst the EU is the raison d'etre for UKIP, that doesn't extend to all (or perhaps even a majority) of its supporters).

    And the prospect of Corbyn will worry many.

    Edited extra bit: it's easy to stop a rat wriggling up the toilet. To be safe, all you need do is put a snake down it first.

    Out of the four things that scare me, three of them are rats, snakes and (public) toilets
    Is number 4 people who are rumored to be homeopaths?
  • Anyway it isn't over yet; the voluptuous lady is still singing over at the Royal Albert Hall. (Or should say the Hero of the People's Assembly Room?)
  • MrsBMrsB Posts: 574
    over 700 comments on the last thread and over 550 on this one shows the level of interest - but scoffing or praising?
  • OMFG - ISIS' latest plan to attack Britain

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COup5PNXAAAGIQR.jpg

    Hmmm. I got bitten by a spider earlier ...
    Is your name Peter Parker or Miles Morales?
    Well, like those two, my pseudonymous name starts with the same two letters.

    "Whilst posting on PB, mild-mannered engineer Josias Jessop was bitten by a small brown spider. Soon, he realised he had inherited the power of a small brown spider. He could weave small, three-centimetre webs and travel between countries in consignments of bananas."
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,994

    Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    So she needs 2 Para's help in pushing the invading mass of migrants out the German borders?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,988
    edited September 2015

    Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    yes but WTF is Cameron re negotiating ?

    anyone got a clue ?
    Just so you're aware, I'm using this picture for an upcoming Osborne is a brilliant strategist thread.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COuvuySXAAAj99x.jpg
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516
    edited September 2015

    Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    yes but WTF is Cameron re negotiating ?

    anyone got a clue ?
    Just so you're aware, I'm using this picture for an upcoming Osborne is a brilliant strategist thread.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COuvuySXAAAj99x.jpg
    he makes a poor croupier,

    Are you titling it Osborne;s casino economy ?
  • MrsB, heavy dose of mockery, some concern, occasional praise.

    Some believe (including me) this could be very good for UKIP or the Lib Dems, if they play their cards right.
  • MrsB said:

    over 700 comments on the last thread and over 550 on this one shows the level of interest - but scoffing or praising?

    Is the PB equivalent of rubber necking the multi car crash on the other side of the motorway
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    RobD said:

    OMFG - ISIS' latest plan to attack Britain

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COup5PNXAAAGIQR.jpg

    Hmmm. I got bitten by a spider earlier ...
    Bugger! Was nice knowing you :(
    The spot on my neck where I got bitten has come up quite red and slightly swollen. As far as I can recall, it's the first time I've ever been bitten. It was a small blighter as well.
    In my part of the world, water meters are typically attached to the pipe 12 inches or so under your lawn, and covered by a plate, which needs to be removed to read the meter. The reader will do this with a long metal object and never put his hand anywhere near it, because black widow spiders love those spaces. Ditto you check your mailbox before sticking your hand in to get the mail.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300

    Anyway it isn't over yet; the voluptuous lady is still singing over at the Royal Albert Hall. (Or should say the Hero of the People's Assembly Room?)

    Bloody Sound of Music on at the moment, throws up.
  • SeanT said:

    Danny565 said:

    Not so long ago, some people on here thought I was a "loony leftie" just because I said I didn't care how high the deficit was, that I thought spending should be increased, and that Miliband wasn't left-wing enough for me.

    Turns out I'm to the right of the average Labour member.

    How do you feel tonight? Serious question. You seem like a more sensible Labour supporter (i am dismissing the bourgeois flatulence of Palmer, tyson et al)

    I am getting mixed signals from my lefty friends. Some who I expected to bE paid up Jezbollah are exceedingly anxious, or angry. Some who are I thought would hate Corbyn are excited - or at least hopeful.

    Feelings are running high in both camps. I do not see how Labour can avoid civil strife.
    Corbyn won fair and square!
    59.5%, man!
  • RobD said:

    Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    Is that a problem if we are in a two-tier Europe where such proposals wouldn't apply to us?
    It would undermine NATO. I love NATO as much as I love discussions on electoral reforms.
    Yes - but us not being in the EU would not make any difference would it? Always assuming you give any credence to a Telegraph EU story.
    As it happens the Telegraph reports significant differences between France and Germany about 'ever closer union'.

    BTW - wait for it - here comes 'Land of Hope and Glory'
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300

    RobD said:

    Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    Is that a problem if we are in a two-tier Europe where such proposals wouldn't apply to us?
    It would undermine NATO. I love NATO as much as I love discussions on electoral reforms.
    Yes - but us not being in the EU would not make any difference would it? Always assuming you give any credence to a Telegraph EU story.
    As it happens the Telegraph reports significant differences between France and Germany about 'ever closer union'.

    BTW - wait for it - here comes 'Land of Hope and Glory'
    We hate Manchester City...
  • Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    yes but WTF is Cameron re negotiating ?

    anyone got a clue ?
    Just so you're aware, I'm using this picture for an upcoming Osborne is a brilliant strategist thread.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COuvuySXAAAj99x.jpg
    he makes a poor croupier,

    Are you titling it Osborne;s casino economy ?
    I reckon had Osborne been in charge of World War II instead of some half French/Irish guy we'd have won the war by 1942, 1941 at a push
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    good time to break bad news.

    Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 21s21 seconds ago
    Nicola Sturgeon: SNP manifesto for 2016 Scottish Parliament election will include timescale for possible independence referendum
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,046
    dr_spyn said:

    good time to break bad news.

    Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 21s21 seconds ago
    Nicola Sturgeon: SNP manifesto for 2016 Scottish Parliament election will include timescale for possible independence referendum

    After a generation, perhaps? :D
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,117
    edited September 2015
    The shadow cabinet appointments will be interesting. All those who opt out are effectively living to fight another day, and all harbour ambitions. Those that sit in the shadow cabinet are either political allies, or people who have no further ambition.

    Tom Watson is the interesting conundrum. He has likely become the most important political conduit in Labour- and he will be the one who wields the knife. Tom Watson has made himself kingmaker, and given himself a role in Labour party machinations that Mandelson could only dream about. Moreover, for Tom- he is likely to play that role for a good many years to come. And, I guess, politically he is still quite close to Yvette and Ed Balls.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,994
    edited September 2015
    RodCrosby said:

    Sky: "signs are he will be able to form a Shadow Cabinet..."

    Even the LibDems can do that....
  • dr_spyn said:

    Anyway it isn't over yet; the voluptuous lady is still singing over at the Royal Albert Hall. (Or should say the Hero of the People's Assembly Room?)

    Bloody Sound of Music on at the moment, throws up.
    Yes but it soon will be all over for Labour when the charming and voluptuous lady makes her final appearance cloaked in the Union Jack.

    (if I were a Blairite I would be desperately 'whistling a happy tune' tight now)
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,994
    Land of Hope and Glory - best possible antidote to Labour electing Jeremy Corbyn.
  • PMQs will be like 15 to 1 - Bercow asks Corbyn 'Question or Nominate?'

    Is 15 to 1 the odds of a Labour victory?

    Labour's been binging a lot of vintage gameshows recently.

    I'm sorry I haven't a clue.

    Pointless.

    The weakest link.

    Decimate.

    Shipwrecked.

    Shafted.

    They think it's all over.

    But the Knightmare continues.

    The Tories Played Their Cards Right, Struck It Lucky and scored a Bullseye when Corbyn finally got his Big Break, officially crowned the Best Of The Worst. Didn't He Do Well? But You Bet the euphoria will last Just A Minute: if he isn't Wanted by the British public, it'll be The People Versus Labour.

    The $64,000 Question is whether, with no Turnabout or Rebound, Jezza will reach for the Ejector Seat - or are his rivals playing The Waiting Game until the Opportunity Knocks to Go For Gold? We Need Answers. Can't see the support of Hamas and Argentina will be much use, Friends Like These don't go down well with the 8 out of 10 Brits who Love My Country, and Only Connect with the hard left. That's a Distraction from his plan of a Million Pound Drop, If He Ruled The World: something most economic Eggheads warn against. Yet Corbyn seems Oblivious. It's a Countdown to Total Wipeout, Labour are at Tipping Point and Every Second Counts.

    Not long ago, Liz was favourite in The Chase to be Top Of The Form, but The Wheel Of Fortune turned at The Moment Of Truth! Now the Singled Out Blairites have shown 100% that they are The Biggest Losers after Corbyn's Epic Win, how many will stick it out and be Argumental in Labour politics Win, Lose or Draw, will there be any Defectors, and how many others will head for the Exit List, exploit their Connections and Want To Be Millionaires instead? (Greed! But a Family Fortune sounds more attractive than backbenching in The Bubble.) Oh how Labour miss their Golden Balls! Man Oh Man, Labour Had Talent, once.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516

    Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    yes but WTF is Cameron re negotiating ?

    anyone got a clue ?
    Just so you're aware, I'm using this picture for an upcoming Osborne is a brilliant strategist thread.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COuvuySXAAAj99x.jpg
    he makes a poor croupier,

    Are you titling it Osborne;s casino economy ?
    I reckon had Osborne been in charge of World War II instead of some half French/Irish guy we'd have won the war by 1942, 1941 at a push
    LOL

    its seven years and Osborne still hasn't sorted out a bank.

    With Osborne in charge we'd have fought the Battle of Britain using butterfly nets.
  • dr_spyn said:

    RobD said:

    Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    Is that a problem if we are in a two-tier Europe where such proposals wouldn't apply to us?
    It would undermine NATO. I love NATO as much as I love discussions on electoral reforms.
    Yes - but us not being in the EU would not make any difference would it? Always assuming you give any credence to a Telegraph EU story.
    As it happens the Telegraph reports significant differences between France and Germany about 'ever closer union'.

    BTW - wait for it - here comes 'Land of Hope and Glory'
    We hate Manchester City...
    No more discussion on PB about football. Guest Editor's prerogative
  • MrsBMrsB Posts: 574
    @pulpstat guess my money is safe for the foreseeable future, as Andy Burnham has not become the leader of the Labour party.

    Anybody else staggered at the concept that commentators are seriously discussing whether the leader of a major party will be able to find enough people from within his own party willing to serve in his shadow cabinet?

    I missed a lot of pb today through being on the refugees welcome march in London. Seems to me that pb is not representative of the country on this issue. There is more support for refugees in the population at large than there is on pb. Not claiming a majority, but certainly not a tiny minority.

  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,046

    Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    yes but WTF is Cameron re negotiating ?

    anyone got a clue ?
    Just so you're aware, I'm using this picture for an upcoming Osborne is a brilliant strategist thread.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COuvuySXAAAj99x.jpg
    he makes a poor croupier,

    Are you titling it Osborne;s casino economy ?
    I reckon had Osborne been in charge of World War II instead of some half French/Irish guy we'd have won the war by 1942, 1941 at a push
    LOL

    its seven years and Osborne still hasn't sorted out a bank.

    With Osborne in charge we'd have fought the Battle of Britain using butterfly nets.
    Scaled up to the size required to catch a plane? It could work......
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516
    RobD said:

    Oh do feck off

    Angela Merkel will expect David Cameron to drop his opposition to an EU army in exchange for supporting Britain’s renegotiation, the Telegraph has been told.

    The German chancellor will ask Britain to stand aside as she promotes an ambitious blueprint to integrate continental Europe’s armed forces.

    It comes as Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, said Britain will get a deal if it gives the green light to a raft of powerful new EU institutions..

    http://bit.ly/1F59wtk

    yes but WTF is Cameron re negotiating ?

    anyone got a clue ?
    Just so you're aware, I'm using this picture for an upcoming Osborne is a brilliant strategist thread.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COuvuySXAAAj99x.jpg
    he makes a poor croupier,

    Are you titling it Osborne;s casino economy ?
    I reckon had Osborne been in charge of World War II instead of some half French/Irish guy we'd have won the war by 1942, 1941 at a push
    LOL

    its seven years and Osborne still hasn't sorted out a bank.

    With Osborne in charge we'd have fought the Battle of Britain using butterfly nets.
    Scaled up to the size required to catch a plane? It could work......
    like Jeremy Corbyn
  • MrsB, it is an odd situation.

    If you attend a march like that, it's not unexpected that you'll find many people agreeing with you. But that's like attending a PB gathering and finding everyone's really into politics.
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,033
    MrsB said:

    @pulpstat guess my money is safe for the foreseeable future, as Andy Burnham has not become the leader of the Labour party.

    Anybody else staggered at the concept that commentators are seriously discussing whether the leader of a major party will be able to find enough people from within his own party willing to serve in his shadow cabinet?

    I missed a lot of pb today through being on the refugees welcome march in London. Seems to me that pb is not representative of the country on this issue. There is more support for refugees in the population at large than there is on pb. Not claiming a majority, but certainly not a tiny minority.

    I think you'll find the most recent polling on this matter would go against that. Think it may have been comres.
  • Hornpipe. Huzzah!
  • I love Jezbollah. Rumours say he is bringing back Lady Nugee* as Shadow Justice Secretary

    *That's Emily Thornberry to you fecking plebs.
  • MrsBMrsB Posts: 574

    PMQs will be like 15 to 1 - Bercow asks Corbyn 'Question or Nominate?'

    Is 15 to 1 the odds of a Labour victory?

    Labour's been binging a lot of vintage gameshows recently.

    I'm sorry I haven't a clue.

    Pointless.

    The weakest link.

    Decimate.

    Shipwrecked.

    Shafted.

    They think it's all over.

    But the Knightmare continues.

    The Tories Played Their Cards Right, Struck It Lucky and scored a Bullseye when Corbyn finally got his Big Break, officially crowned the Best Of The Worst. Didn't He Do Well? But You Bet the euphoria will last Just A Minute: if he isn't Wanted by the British public, it'll be The People Versus Labour.

    The $64,000 Question is whether, with no Turnabout or Rebound, Jezza will reach for the Ejector Seat - or are his rivals playing The Waiting Game until the Opportunity Knocks to Go For Gold? We Need Answers. Can't see the support of Hamas and Argentina will be much use, Friends Like These don't go down well with the 8 out of 10 Brits who Love My Country, and Only Connect with the hard left. That's a Distraction from his plan of a Million Pound Drop, If He Ruled The World: something most economic Eggheads warn against. Yet Corbyn seems Oblivious. It's a Countdown to Total Wipeout, Labour are at Tipping Point and Every Second Counts.

    Not long ago, Liz was favourite in The Chase to be Top Of The Form, but The Wheel Of Fortune turned at The Moment Of Truth! Now the Singled Out Blairites have shown 100% that they are The Biggest Losers after Corbyn's Epic Win, how many will stick it out and be Argumental in Labour politics Win, Lose or Draw, will there be any Defectors, and how many others will head for the Exit List, exploit their Connections and Want To Be Millionaires instead? (Greed! But a Family Fortune sounds more attractive than backbenching in The Bubble.) Oh how Labour miss their Golden Balls! Man Oh Man, Labour Had Talent, once.
    Oh!15 to 1! I made the series final of that once.
  • I really should have better things to do on my birthday.
  • JEOJEO Posts: 3,656

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I believe they call this a bitch fight. Between Owen Jones & Alastair Campbell (or rather Old Labour v New Labour)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COuffBNWEAAKjdI.jpg

    How many years since Old Labour last won an election? :D
    twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/642785117795168256
    I enjoyed the axis labels. I assume the official registration would be "New Labour (War Criminal) Party"
    I'm using a similar chart tomorrow afternoon.

    Number of general elections won in recent times by

    1) A Social liberal One Nation, not obsessed about Europe Tory

    2) Tory leaders/Party that wouldn't stop obsessing about the Europe
    Cameron's Conservative party has offered the most eurosceptic platform for decades, and has benefitted electorally for it, even though the leadership often had to be forced into such a position.
  • PMQs will be like 15 to 1 - Bercow asks Corbyn 'Question or Nominate?'

    Is 15 to 1 the odds of a Labour victory?
    Labour's been binging a lot of vintage gameshows recently.
    I'm sorry I haven't a clue.
    Pointless.
    The weakest link.
    Decimate.
    Shipwrecked.
    Shafted.
    They think it's all over.
    But the Knightmare continues.
    ...
    ....
    A quick read through your excellent list but you missed the chance to bring Room 101 into it.

    I doubt the Speaker will be so deadly to labour but Tory backbenchers should certainly call out 'Question or Nominate'.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,100

    OMFG - ISIS' latest plan to attack Britain

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COup5PNXAAAGIQR.jpg

    Hmmm. I got bitten by a spider earlier ...
    Is your name Peter Parker or Miles Morales?
    Well, like those two, my pseudonymous name starts with the same two letters.

    "Whilst posting on PB, mild-mannered engineer Josias Jessop was bitten by a small brown spider. Soon, he realised he had inherited the power of a small brown spider. He could weave small, three-centimetre webs and travel between countries in consignments of bananas."
    There are all sorts of nasty things that people who don't like one can do, providing they don't mind the random nature of the victims afflicting their 'own' people too.
  • MrsB, not just a pretty face ;)
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,117
    They can all do a LD's and go in for a spot of multi tasking and carry a few portfolios each. I'd give Dianne Abbot at least six ministries so she hasn't any time at all for self promotion on this week.
    SeanT said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Sky: "signs are he will be able to form a Shadow Cabinet..."

    Even the LibDems can do that....
    Quite. He has at least 15 MPs who back him, sincerely, and there are surely 50 arrant Nick Palmer style careerists in the wider party, who will follow any policy, including the obligatory composting of grandmothers - as long as it leads to preferment.

    It is literally impossible to imagine a leader *unable* to form a shadow cabinet.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,391
    edited September 2015
    RodCrosby said:

    Sky: "signs are he will be able to form a Shadow Cabinet..."

    Well thats just spiffing! He ***CAN*** form a Shadow Cabinet!

    Well done Jezza!



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