"Compassion" is a complete red herring in most political arguments, but definitely so here. Mostly because its incredibly easy to signal compassion while doing absolutely nothing.
According to our friend EPG down thread that is as it should be action is apparently a conservative thing, so now we know
You're signalling your own virtue now, by exhorting alleged layabouts to get up of their bums. "Action not words" is a conservative virtue which people like to signal by telling others what to do and being disgusted when they don't agree.
"Compassion" is a complete red herring in most political arguments, but definitely so here. Mostly because its incredibly easy to signal compassion while doing absolutely nothing.
According to our friend EPG down thread that is as it should be action is apparently a conservative thing, so now we know
Hahaha!
I am really just trying to put down virtue signalling as a conservative meme. Everyone does it, left or right. Like the Cole Porter song.
Pay a few grand, repatriate and make them wealthy in migrant donor states.
How will that discourage anyone? It's an incentive.
I think I said solutions, not disincentives.
Cheaper and quicker than legal fees.
There is of course a final solution. A very cheap and most effective way to deal with swarms of unwanted undesirables.
You really are sick.
I actually find it sick and disgusting just how little compassion people on this site have for these desperate migrants.
Compassion we have.
It doesn't mean we have to let them all in.
We also have responsibilities and obligations to the people of this country.
The numbers of illegal immigrants getting through on back of lorries or other ways through the tunnel,the camp at Calais should be empty in a couple of months,then wait for the next intake.
Oh dear what a sad example of mans inhumanity to man this thread is. It's not easy to put yourself in someone else's shoes but when you read a thread like this it's difficult not to wish that the contributors are the ones trapped in Calais.
It would be much easier then to believe they were getting the retribution those on this thread seem to think they deserve
Obviously I meant experience of the European boat migrants, that have come up through Lampedousa- and, have been stranded in Libya- and a few I guess are amongst the group up now in Calais.
But you make my case perfectly Cyclefree- absolutely perfectly so thank you. As your friend is a refugee, you know him and you cannot speak highly enough of him.
The Eritreans that I know are lovely people. These same people who are the alleged undeserving thugs. My car broke down and they bent over backwards to help me- they lent me their phone and bought me food and drinks. They are trying their best for their families and have terrible stories about their treatment, particularly in Libya, but more recently in Italy too.
These are the people I am now reading on this site are no better than thugs and criminals because they are taking desperate measures to improve their plight, are being vilified, been referred to as swarms, demonised- and when someone referred today to "solutions" to deal with them, I couldn't stop myself from making the comparison. Rule of Godwin applies.
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I am really just trying to put down virtue signalling as a conservative meme. Everyone does it, left or right. Like the Cole Porter song.
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It would be much easier then to believe they were getting the retribution those on this thread seem to think they deserve
Obviously I meant experience of the European boat migrants, that have come up through Lampedousa- and, have been stranded in Libya- and a few I guess are amongst the group up now in Calais.
But you make my case perfectly Cyclefree- absolutely perfectly so thank you. As your friend is a refugee, you know him and you cannot speak highly enough of him.
The Eritreans that I know are lovely people. These same people who are the alleged undeserving thugs. My car broke down and they bent over backwards to help me- they lent me their phone and bought me food and drinks. They are trying their best for their families and have terrible stories about their treatment, particularly in Libya, but more recently in Italy too.
These are the people I am now reading on this site are no better than thugs and criminals because they are taking desperate measures to improve their plight, are being vilified, been referred to as swarms, demonised- and when someone referred today to "solutions" to deal with them, I couldn't stop myself from making the comparison. Rule of Godwin applies.