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    EastwingerEastwinger Posts: 351
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    PClippPClipp Posts: 2,138
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610
    I'll be glad when it's over. At this point I'm pretty much resigned to Ed being PM in an unstable partnership with the SNP and other leftist parties. Hopefully it will give the Tories a chance to regroup in opposition and actually start to make the party fit for the modern era.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,888
    edited May 2015
    3. Same as below - but I still think that there may be a chance of a 1992.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,985
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    PClippPClipp Posts: 2,138
    It´s like the count tomorrow evening....
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
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    DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    MaxPB said:

    I'll be glad when it's over. At this point I'm pretty much resigned to Ed being PM in an unstable partnership with the SNP and other leftist parties. Hopefully it will give the Tories a chance to regroup in opposition and actually start to make the party fit for the modern era.

    And more importantly, we'll be able to bet on their next leader.
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    Eh_ehm_a_ehEh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    Is this a rehearal for the Slab molification?
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,955
    Should I drink alcohol tomorrow evening? I am sorely tempted.
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    IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    Yes Southam - you will be adding to your terrible tipping history

    And you should take me out for that dinner you owe me
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,954
    I should have had money on next Tory leader well before now - presumably the odds will begin to move around quite a bit fairly soon.
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    IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    All about the ground game now.
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Well, I have been summoned to fly tomorrow night to Northern Ireland for my other half's 50th birthday. I will not be allowed to watch much election coverage and I certainly won't be allowed to spend time on a computer betting (my other half disapproves of this).

    My other half's disapproval of betting does not, however, extend to the proceeds. He has bought himself a car today.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,888
    IOS said:

    Yes Southam - you will be adding to your terrible tipping history

    And you should take me out for that dinner you owe me

    You're really setting yourself up for a fall here.
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    IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    edited May 2015
    According to the FT - Labour are going to be flooding marginals like Hornsey and Woodgreen with ..... 1,600 activists

    One thousand six hundred


    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7bf86804-f25a-11e4-892a-00144feab7de.html#axzz3ZO6khkJS
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,503
    SouthamObserver said:

    Should I drink alcohol tomorrow evening? I am sorely tempted.

    I think we all will be at this rate.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,556
    @PanelbaseMD: Final #GE2015 @panelbase GB poll: LAB 33% (-1), CON 31% (-1%), UKIP 16% (-1), LD 8% (NC), GRN 5% (+1), SNP 5%, OTH 2. Tables very shortly.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,930
    Good cartoon Marf!

    Well here we go, tomorrow's the day and no-one seems to have any idea of what the result might be! :o
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    SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @antifrank
    "He has bought himself a car today. "

    Was it an Irish Rover?
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,930
    kle4 said:

    I should have had money on next Tory leader well before now - presumably the odds will begin to move around quite a bit fairly soon.

    Lay the favourite. Especially if it's Boris.
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 1,882
    edited May 2015
    IOS said:

    According to the FT - Labour are going to be flooding marginals like Hornsey and Woodgreen with ..... 1,600 activists

    One thousand six hundred


    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7bf86804-f25a-11e4-892a-00144feab7de.html#axzz3ZO6khkJS

    They should stick some of them on a bus to Stevenage/Milton Keynes/Peterborough instead.
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    Eh_ehm_a_ehEh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    antifrank said:

    Well, I have been summoned to fly tomorrow night to Northern Ireland for my other half's 50th birthday. I will not be allowed to watch much election coverage and I certainly won't be allowed to spend time on a computer betting (my other half disapproves of this).

    My other half's disapproval of betting does not, however, extend to the proceeds. He has bought himself a car today.

    See Strangford and die.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,954
    The big question with these polls - is the Green vote being squeezed or not? ICM says yes, Panelbase says no.

    What's that? Will it impact the result? Don't be silly.
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Postal vote mess in Hackney.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-england-32607289

    20,000 registrations in one week?????

    The new Tower Hamlets.
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    IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    Do the Tories even have 1,600 people canvassing across London - let alone in one seat.
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    edited May 2015
    Tim Bouverie ‏@TimPBouverie ·
    EXCLUSIVE: Union bosses tell Miliband: Offer Lib Dems voting reform to keep Cameron out http://news.channel4.com/election2015/05/06/ … by @MichaelLCrick

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    OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    Sandpit said:

    Good cartoon Marf!

    Well here we go, tomorrow's the day and no-one seems to have any idea of what the result might be! :o

    Everyone seems very confident of what the result won't be, with precious few people expecting a majority of any kind, except of votes for the SNP in Scotland.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,930
    Casino_Royale said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Should I drink alcohol tomorrow evening? I am sorely tempted.

    I think we all will be at this rate.
    Quite. This is the election of a lifetime.

    Do any of the site's more esteemed contributors have memories of February 1974 and what that was like to live through?
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    NoEasyDayNoEasyDay Posts: 454
    Now we had thread the other day on Mikes meeting with the high and mighty of polling. The high and mighty said that the Tory wasted vote syndrome no longer existed. Mike could see little evidence of this.
    The population of the UK has increased by approx 10% in the last few years most of working/ voting age. We know 8 out 10 immigrants vote Labour. And even if they don't vote they can take part in polls. Where are all these folks registered to vote, well I doubt its Kensington and Chelsea. They will buy and rent where the housing is cheapest which is solidly working class areas. Labour constituencies, rock solid Labour constituencies. Labour wasted vote syndrome anybody ?
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Sandpit said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Should I drink alcohol tomorrow evening? I am sorely tempted.

    I think we all will be at this rate.
    Quite. This is the election of a lifetime.

    Do any of the site's more esteemed contributors have memories of February 1974 and what that was like to live through?
    We didn't have Twitter or even smart phones

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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Tykejohnno said:

    Tim Bouverie ‏@TimPBouverie ·
    EXCLUSIVE: Union bosses tell Miliband: Offer Lib Dems voting reform to keep Cameron out http://news.channel4.com/election2015/05/06/ … by @MichaelLCrick

    I could see the tories accepting voting reform.

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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,954
    Tykejohnno said:

    Tim Bouverie ‏@TimPBouverie ·
    EXCLUSIVE: Union bosses tell Miliband: Offer Lib Dems voting reform to keep Cameron out http://news.channel4.com/election2015/05/06/ … by @MichaelLCrick

    Ed's in favour of voting reform isn't he? So that should be an easy ask.
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Panelbase EICIPM! Lol loving this
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Jim Pickard ‏@PickardJE ·
    Panelbase: how many "decided" voters may yet change minds? Just 7% of SNP voters, 18% of Tories, 21% of Labour, 25% of UKIP, 31% of LibDems

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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,556
    @Survation: POLL ALERT: Multiple poll releases tonight. All will become clear following us & @damiansurvation for press releases: http://t.co/DKJOzF1mr0
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,930
    MikeSmithson said:

    Sandpit said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Should I drink alcohol tomorrow evening? I am sorely tempted.

    I think we all will be at this rate.
    Quite. This is the election of a lifetime.

    Do any of the site's more esteemed contributors have memories of February 1974 and what that was like to live through?
    We didn't have Twitter or even smart phones

    Ha, very good Mike, I did think of adding that we didn't have PB in 1974!

    BTW, will we be getting a donate button, as I'm hoping to win some money in the next couple of days and would like to contribute to your hosting bill? I'm sure I'm not the only one either!
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    Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 13,327
    kle4 said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Tim Bouverie ‏@TimPBouverie ·
    EXCLUSIVE: Union bosses tell Miliband: Offer Lib Dems voting reform to keep Cameron out http://news.channel4.com/election2015/05/06/ … by @MichaelLCrick

    Ed's in favour of voting reform isn't he? So that should be an easy ask.
    Saw that on C4 News.

    Chuka Umunna dissed it.
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    Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 25,509
    That ICM had 15% don't knows and a further 9% refused to say. That's 24% that we just don't know about. I'd like to know whether that is typical of polls - for instance what the 'don't know' quotient of ICM before the 2010 election was.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610
    Sandpit said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Should I drink alcohol tomorrow evening? I am sorely tempted.

    I think we all will be at this rate.
    Quite. This is the election of a lifetime.

    Do any of the site's more esteemed contributors have memories of February 1974 and what that was like to live through?
    I think 2010 was much more fun, this one has had two dreadful campaigns with each party locked into a competition over the worst one. The Lib Dems have been hilarious in their disowning of government policy on one side but then claiming others as their own. UKIP have basically been sidelined (possibly for their own good) and the Green leader is terrible and Australian to boot which people don't like (being lectured by an aussie on how to live has definitely not helped the Greens).

    Neither leader has really managed to give any amount of confidence that they would be a decent PM over the next cycle, Ed seems far too eager to be in No 10 and Dave the exact opposite.

    Honestly, for all the hype and almost years of build up, this has to be one of the most disappointing elections since 2001. Even 2005 had the knifing of IDS in the build up and the horrible "are you thinking what we're thinking" strapline from the Tories.
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @Survation: POLL ALERT: Multiple poll releases tonight. All will become clear following us & @damiansurvation for press releases: http://t.co/DKJOzF1mr0

    Covering their bases! Good on them
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,888
    And the Angus Reid prize goes to...
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @PanelbaseMD: Final #GE2015 @panelbase GB poll: LAB 33% (-1), CON 31% (-1%), UKIP 16% (-1), LD 8% (NC), GRN 5% (+1), SNP 5%, OTH 2. Tables very shortly.

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    JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,215
    edited May 2015
    MikeSmithson said:

    Sandpit said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Should I drink alcohol tomorrow evening? I am sorely tempted.

    I think we all will be at this rate.
    Quite. This is the election of a lifetime.

    Do any of the site's more esteemed contributors have memories of February 1974 and what that was like to live through?
    We didn't have Twitter or even smart phones

    Ah yes, the Who Governs Britain election (answer: well, anyone but you, Ted).

    I remember it like yesterday.....pretty well everyone (including Harold Wilson) expected Heath to win, although the Enoch Powell 'Vote Labour' speech the Saturday before polling day added more than a spice of uncertainty. The Tory campaigned was also derailed by the confusion over miners' pay through the relativities commission and other mishaps.

    And of course the other imponderable was the Liberal surge with Thorpe's popularity as the 'voice of moderation' increasing as the camapign progressed,

    At the close of poll, the BBC unveiled a some exit polls from individual seats and they all showed a swing to Labour.....which the results proper confirmed.
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    EPGEPG Posts: 6,013
    NoEasyDay said:

    Now we had thread the other day on Mikes meeting with the high and mighty of polling. The high and mighty said that the Tory wasted vote syndrome no longer existed. Mike could see little evidence of this.
    The population of the UK has increased by approx 10% in the last few years most of working/ voting age. We know 8 out 10 immigrants vote Labour. And even if they don't vote they can take part in polls. Where are all these folks registered to vote, well I doubt its Kensington and Chelsea. They will buy and rent where the housing is cheapest which is solidly working class areas. Labour constituencies, rock solid Labour constituencies. Labour wasted vote syndrome anybody ?

    They are pouring into wasted rock solid Labour constituencies like Hampstead and Kilburn, Battersea, and Yarmouth.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,954
    Sandpit said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Should I drink alcohol tomorrow evening? I am sorely tempted.

    I think we all will be at this rate.
    Quite. This is the election of a lifetime.

    Do any of the site's more esteemed contributors have memories of February 1974 and what that was like to live through?
    It's a secret that actually every poster on here is 25 years old or younger, hence the excitability combined with certainty of opinion.

    In all honesty, I too would be interested to know what it was like.
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    Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 13,327
    antifrank said:

    Well, I have been summoned to fly tomorrow night to Northern Ireland for my other half's 50th birthday. I will not be allowed to watch much election coverage and I certainly won't be allowed to spend time on a computer betting (my other half disapproves of this).

    My other half's disapproval of betting does not, however, extend to the proceeds. He has bought himself a car today.

    If your SNP bets come in you can buy him the Isle of Skye.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Just tallying up my betting before the big day and I have a fiver left on Will Hill anyone want to offer me a hot tip?
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    PurseybearPurseybear Posts: 766
    You can still get 17.5 tory majority.

    imho thats a value punt.
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    SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @kle4
    It was all a bit of a blur for me, Though I can say with reasonable certainty I was drunk after the local count.
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    edited May 2015
    I get the feeling the pollsters really, really don't want to be stung by a late surge. Though it must be the newspapers funding it too?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,556
    Alistair said:

    Just tallying up my betting before the big day and I have a fiver left on Will Hill anyone want to offer me a hot tip?

    Lib Dems hold Gordon
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610
    Purseybear said:

    You can still get 17.5 tory majority.

    imho thats a value punt.

    No way. No indications of a late swing, no rabble rousing speech from Dave. Nothing. He has been absolutely useless as a field marshal.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,352
    After all these polls and many calling it for labour spin has gone out to 25. Seems strange
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    TheKitchenCabinetTheKitchenCabinet Posts: 2,275
    Is it just me or has the Conservative-Labour spread just notched up to 25?
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    PurseybearPurseybear Posts: 766
    edited May 2015
    EPG said:

    NoEasyDay said:

    Now we had thread the other day on Mikes meeting with the high and mighty of polling. The high and mighty said that the Tory wasted vote syndrome no longer existed. Mike could see little evidence of this.
    The population of the UK has increased by approx 10% in the last few years most of working/ voting age. We know 8 out 10 immigrants vote Labour. And even if they don't vote they can take part in polls. Where are all these folks registered to vote, well I doubt its Kensington and Chelsea. They will buy and rent where the housing is cheapest which is solidly working class areas. Labour constituencies, rock solid Labour constituencies. Labour wasted vote syndrome anybody ?

    They are pouring into wasted rock solid Labour constituencies like Hampstead and Kilburn, Battersea, and Yarmouth.
    Battersea's rock solid tory #confused
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    After all these polls and many calling it for labour spin has gone out to 25. Seems strange

    Someone always knows. Someone always tells.
    Watch SPIN like a hawk and you'll know more than by reading polls
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    IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    One thousand six hundred ...... in one seat.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,352
    If spin is right DC would be PM
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    NoEasyDayNoEasyDay Posts: 454
    EPG said:

    NoEasyDay said:

    Now we had thread the other day on Mikes meeting with the high and mighty of polling. The high and mighty said that the Tory wasted vote syndrome no longer existed. Mike could see little evidence of this.
    The population of the UK has increased by approx 10% in the last few years most of working/ voting age. We know 8 out 10 immigrants vote Labour. And even if they don't vote they can take part in polls. Where are all these folks registered to vote, well I doubt its Kensington and Chelsea. They will buy and rent where the housing is cheapest which is solidly working class areas. Labour constituencies, rock solid Labour constituencies. Labour wasted vote syndrome anybody ?

    They are pouring into wasted rock solid Labour constituencies like Hampstead and Kilburn, Battersea, and Yarmouth.
    Hampstead and Kilburn the old witch had 10% lead athe last election will be closer to twenty this time round....still just one seat.
    But many more Labour votes.
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    I just know after all this the shy Tory factor or SOMETHING will ruin it all.
    Still, consolation prize is a severely weakened Tory minority and Clegg comeuppance
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    IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    Spin only screwed it up by around a hundred seats last time :-)
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    GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 1,999
    Tykejohnno said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Tim Bouverie ‏@TimPBouverie ·
    EXCLUSIVE: Union bosses tell Miliband: Offer Lib Dems voting reform to keep Cameron out http://news.channel4.com/election2015/05/06/ … by @MichaelLCrick

    I could see the tories accepting voting reform.

    Why would either main party go for voting reform when both could get around 42% of the votes on 33% of the vote under FPTP? The SNP would also lose out.

    Switching to PR would see UKIP and Greens benefit massively while Lab Con and SNP would be losers
    Switching to STV would see UKIP and Green gain but to a lesser extent (partly depending on the constituency sizes)
    AV would probably benefit the big 2 (although this has been rejected by the electorate)
    Instant runoff would benefit the big 2

    It would be quite amusing if PR came in and the result was a Con-UKIP coalition in 2020.
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    NoEasyDay said:

    EPG said:

    NoEasyDay said:

    Now we had thread the other day on Mikes meeting with the high and mighty of polling. The high and mighty said that the Tory wasted vote syndrome no longer existed. Mike could see little evidence of this.
    The population of the UK has increased by approx 10% in the last few years most of working/ voting age. We know 8 out 10 immigrants vote Labour. And even if they don't vote they can take part in polls. Where are all these folks registered to vote, well I doubt its Kensington and Chelsea. They will buy and rent where the housing is cheapest which is solidly working class areas. Labour constituencies, rock solid Labour constituencies. Labour wasted vote syndrome anybody ?

    They are pouring into wasted rock solid Labour constituencies like Hampstead and Kilburn, Battersea, and Yarmouth.
    Hampstead and Kilburn the old witch had 10% lead athe last election will be closer to twenty this time round....still just one seat.
    But many more Labour votes.
    She won by 43 votes.....
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    NoEasyDayNoEasyDay Posts: 454
    dyedwoolie said:

    NoEasyDay said:

    EPG said:

    NoEasyDay said:

    Now we had thread the other day on Mikes meeting with the high and mighty of polling. The high and mighty said that the Tory wasted vote syndrome no longer existed. Mike could see little evidence of this.
    The population of the UK has increased by approx 10% in the last few years most of working/ voting age. We know 8 out 10 immigrants vote Labour. And even if they don't vote they can take part in polls. Where are all these folks registered to vote, well I doubt its Kensington and Chelsea. They will buy and rent where the housing is cheapest which is solidly working class areas. Labour constituencies, rock solid Labour constituencies. Labour wasted vote syndrome anybody ?

    They are pouring into wasted rock solid Labour constituencies like Hampstead and Kilburn, Battersea, and Yarmouth.
    Hampstead and Kilburn the old witch had 10% lead athe last election will be closer to twenty this time round....still just one seat.
    But many more Labour votes.
    She won by 43 votes.....
    Still just one seat, but many more votes.
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    ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 4,993
    MaxPB said:

    Sandpit said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Should I drink alcohol tomorrow evening? I am sorely tempted.

    I think we all will be at this rate.
    Quite. This is the election of a lifetime.

    Do any of the site's more esteemed contributors have memories of February 1974 and what that was like to live through?
    I think 2010 was much more fun, this one has had two dreadful campaigns with each party locked into a competition over the worst one. The Lib Dems have been hilarious in their disowning of government policy on one side but then claiming others as their own. UKIP have basically been sidelined (possibly for their own good) and the Green leader is terrible and Australian to boot which people don't like (being lectured by an aussie on how to live has definitely not helped the Greens).

    Neither leader has really managed to give any amount of confidence that they would be a decent PM over the next cycle, Ed seems far too eager to be in No 10 and Dave the exact opposite.

    Honestly, for all the hype and almost years of build up, this has to be one of the most disappointing elections since 2001. Even 2005 had the knifing of IDS in the build up and the horrible "are you thinking what we're thinking" strapline from the Tories.
    Don't agree. I think the outcome was clear for pretty much every other election I've experienced from 79 onwards (even 2010, where a hung parliament was obvious - though most of us thought it would be due to a LD surge). The sheer unpredictability of this one makes it absolutely fascinating, despite the uninspiring nature of the campaigns.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,352
    IOS said:

    Spin only screwed it up by around a hundred seats last time :-)

    Are you expecting a conservative landslide then
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    IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    Kilburn - Easy Lab Hold

    Batersea - Easy Con Hold
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    IOS said:

    Spin only screwed it up by around a hundred seats last time :-)

    You mean Con 388 to Lab 163 is nailed on?! Golly!
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,763

    Jean Marie Le Pen considers setting up a party of the right of the Front National

    http://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/le-scan/decryptages/2015/05/06/25003-20150506ARTFIG00221-jean-marie-le-pen-peut-il-creer-un-nouveau-parti-a-la-droite-du-fn.php
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,888
    Purseybear said:

    EPG said:

    NoEasyDay said:

    Now we had thread the other day on Mikes meeting with the high and mighty of polling. The high and mighty said that the Tory wasted vote syndrome no longer existed. Mike could see little evidence of this.
    The population of the UK has increased by approx 10% in the last few years most of working/ voting age. We know 8 out 10 immigrants vote Labour. And even if they don't vote they can take part in polls. Where are all these folks registered to vote, well I doubt its Kensington and Chelsea. They will buy and rent where the housing is cheapest which is solidly working class areas. Labour constituencies, rock solid Labour constituencies. Labour wasted vote syndrome anybody ?

    They are pouring into wasted rock solid Labour constituencies like Hampstead and Kilburn, Battersea, and Yarmouth.
    Battersea's rock solid tory #confused
    And Hampstead Labour by just 42 votes...
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    edited May 2015
    Alanbrooke said:


    Jean Marie Le Pen considers setting up a party of the right of the Front National

    http://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/le-scan/decryptages/2015/05/06/25003-20150506ARTFIG00221-jean-marie-le-pen-peut-il-creer-un-nouveau-parti-a-la-droite-du-fn.php

    You want racism? I'll show you racism!
    Tw@t of a man
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    edited May 2015
    Nick Sutton ‏@suttonnick ·
    Thursday's Daily Mirror front page:
    Send 'em Packing
    #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers #GE2015

    The class war continues with the leftwing rag.
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    paulyorkpaulyork Posts: 50
    kle4 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Should I drink alcohol tomorrow evening? I am sorely tempted.

    I think we all will be at this rate.
    Quite. This is the election of a lifetime.

    Do any of the site's more esteemed contributors have memories of February 1974 and what that was like to live through?
    It's a secret that actually every poster on here is 25 years old or younger, hence the excitability combined with certainty of opinion.

    In all honesty, I too would be interested to know what it was like.
    Was 10 at that election and dont recall the details. Remember doing a speech in favour of joining the EEC at junior school the year before. If only id known.........
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,763
    dyedwoolie said:

    Alanbrooke said:


    Jean Marie Le Pen considers setting up a party of the right of the Front National

    http://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/le-scan/decryptages/2015/05/06/25003-20150506ARTFIG00221-jean-marie-le-pen-peut-il-creer-un-nouveau-parti-a-la-droite-du-fn.php

    You want racism? I'll show you racism!
    Tw@t of a man
    Less politics more family bust up
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    ProdicusProdicus Posts: 658
    edited May 2015
    Just got in. Missed lots of erm excitement and there's no hope of catching up on comments :-(

    Not exactly upcheering polls tonight. Oh, well.

    A propos, WTF are the stupid berks at the Sun thinking? (Let us pass quickly over that gruesomse FP baby thing. Come back Kelvin, all is forgiven.)

    Doesn't anyone in that office know the first rule of competition: NEVER re-broadcast your competitor's advertising?
    http://www.sunnation.co.uk/the-labour-supporting-press-are-getting-desperate/

    /facepalm

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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,930
    IOS said:

    One thousand six hundred ...... in one seat.

    Surely better to have 160 in each of 10 seats - or do they have 1,600 in every seat in London?
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    asjohnstoneasjohnstone Posts: 1,276
    NoEasyDay said:


    The population of the UK has increased by approx 10% in the last few years most of working/ voting age. We know 8 out 10 immigrants vote Labour. And even if they don't vote they can take part in polls. Where are all these folks registered to vote, well I doubt its Kensington and Chelsea. They will buy and rent where the housing is cheapest which is solidly working class areas. Labour constituencies, rock solid Labour constituencies. Labour wasted vote syndrome anybody ?

    The population of the UK hasn't increased 10% in the "last few years" it went up 7% between 2001 and 2011. It's mostly been driven by births rather than immigration. Read the 2011 census for the facts.

    Most of the immigration that has occurred has taken place from the EU, EU citizens can't vote.

    You're pretty much wrong about everything
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    ToffeenoseToffeenose Posts: 19
    GarethoftheVale2 said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Tim Bouverie ‏@TimPBouverie ·
    EXCLUSIVE: Union bosses tell Miliband: Offer Lib Dems voting reform to keep Cameron out http://news.channel4.com/election2015/05/06/ … by @MichaelLCrick

    I could see the tories accepting voting reform.

    Why would either main party go for voting reform when both could get around 42% of the votes on 33% of the vote under FPTP? The SNP would also lose out.

    Switching to PR would see UKIP and Greens benefit massively while Lab Con and SNP would be losers
    Switching to STV would see UKIP and Green gain but to a lesser extent (partly depending on the constituency sizes)
    AV would probably benefit the big 2 (although this has been rejected by the electorate)
    Instant runoff would benefit the big 2

    It would be quite amusing if PR came in and the result was a Con-UKIP coalition in 2020.
    Tykejohnno said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Tim Bouverie ‏@TimPBouverie ·
    EXCLUSIVE: Union bosses tell Miliband: Offer Lib Dems voting reform to keep Cameron out http://news.channel4.com/election2015/05/06/ … by @MichaelLCrick

    I could see the tories accepting voting reform.

    Given DC will quit at end of term even if he wins, I could see him taking it.

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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,556
    @TSEofPB: Latest Sheffield Hallam Lib Dem leaflet http://t.co/2cYwiD31HW
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    ToffeenoseToffeenose Posts: 19
    MikeSmithson said:

    Sandpit said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Should I drink alcohol tomorrow evening? I am sorely tempted.

    I think we all will be at this rate.
    Quite. This is the election of a lifetime.

    Do any of the site's more esteemed contributors have memories of February 1974 and what that was like to live through?
    We didn't have Twitter or even smart phones

    I didn't even have a phone in 1974.
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    vulpus_rexvulpus_rex Posts: 5
    I have three nephews voting for the first time. All conservative. They aren't particularly engaged with politics but they tell me they don't have to be to justify their position. If any of their friends challenge them they just respone with "Ed Milliband" and that quells any criticism.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,352
    Great game Barcelona v Bayern - very open - good to watch
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    ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 4,993
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @TSEofPB: Latest Sheffield Hallam Lib Dem leaflet http://t.co/2cYwiD31HW

    Tactical voting comes full circle. It was Labour votes that gifted the seat to the LDs in 1997 (when the Tory defeat was a major surprise).
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    enfantenfant Posts: 34
    For Artist.Stevenage will have more than enough members and supporters out tomorrow
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    BREAKING WIND NEWS **** BREAKING WIND NEWS **** BREAKING WIND NEWS ****

    The breaking news is that WIND is reporting to the JNN the contents of the eve of poll SUPER ARSE with added SUPER APLOMB 2015 General Election and "JackW Dozen" Projections. (Changes From 5th May Projection) :

    Con 302 (-2) .. Lab 251 (+2) .. LibDem 28 (NC) .. SNP 42 (NC) .. PC 3 .. NI 18 .. UKIP 3 .. Respect 1 .. Green 1 .. Ind 0 .. Speaker 1

    Conservatives 24 seats short of a majority

    Turnout Projection .. 68% (+0.5)
    ......................................................................................

    "JackW Dozen" - 13 seats that will shape the General Election result :

    Bury North - Con Hold
    Pudsey - Likely Con Hold
    Broxtowe - Likely Lab Gain
    Warwickshire North - Likely Con Hold
    Cambridge - LibDem Hold
    Ipswich - Con Hold
    Watford - TCTC - Con Hold
    Croydon Central - Con Hold
    Enfield North - Likely Lab Gain
    Cornwall North - Likely LibDem Hold
    Great Yarmouth - Con Hold
    Vale of Glamorgan - Con Hold
    Ochil and South Perthshire - SNP Gain

    Changes From 5 May - Watford moves from TCTC to TCTC Con Hold

    TCTC - Too Close To Call - Less than 500 votes
    Likely Hold/Gain - 500 - 2500 votes
    Gain/Hold - Over 2500
    .......................................................................................

    ARSE is sponsored by Auchentennach Fine Pies (Est 1745)

    WIND - Whimsical Independent News Division
    JNN - Jacobite News Network
    ARSE - Anonymous Random Selection of Electors
    APLOMB - Auchentennach Pies Leading Outsales Mainland Britain
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    JackW said:

    BREAKING WIND NEWS **** BREAKING WIND NEWS **** BREAKING WIND NEWS ****

    The breaking news is that WIND is reporting to the JNN the contents of the eve of poll SUPER ARSE with added SUPER APLOMB 2015 General Election and "JackW Dozen" Projections. (Changes From 5th May Projection) :

    Con 302 (-2) .. Lab 251 (+2) .. LibDem 28 (NC) .. SNP 42 (NC) .. PC 3 .. NI 18 .. UKIP 3 .. Respect 1 .. Green 1 .. Ind 0 .. Speaker 1

    Conservatives 24 seats short of a majority

    Turnout Projection .. 68% (+0.5)
    ......................................................................................

    "JackW Dozen" - 13 seats that will shape the General Election result :

    Bury North - Con Hold
    Pudsey - Likely Con Hold
    Broxtowe - Likely Lab Gain
    Warwickshire North - Likely Con Hold
    Cambridge - LibDem Hold
    Ipswich - Con Hold
    Watford - TCTC - Con Hold
    Croydon Central - Con Hold
    Enfield North - Likely Lab Gain
    Cornwall North - Likely LibDem Hold
    Great Yarmouth - Con Hold
    Vale of Glamorgan - Con Hold
    Ochil and South Perthshire - SNP Gain

    Changes From 5 May - Watford moves from TCTC to TCTC Con Hold

    TCTC - Too Close To Call - Less than 500 votes
    Likely Hold/Gain - 500 - 2500 votes
    Gain/Hold - Over 2500
    .......................................................................................

    ARSE is sponsored by Auchentennach Fine Pies (Est 1745)

    WIND - Whimsical Independent News Division
    JNN - Jacobite News Network
    ARSE - Anonymous Random Selection of Electors
    APLOMB - Auchentennach Pies Leading Outsales Mainland Britain

    Brave.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Thank you for the suggestions but I've decided to cover Lib Dems 11-30 seats at a 15% return
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    volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    Alistair said:

    Just tallying up my betting before the big day and I have a fiver left on Will Hill anyone want to offer me a hot tip?

    25-1 on an dead-heat on seat nos between Con and Lab.

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    OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    The Lib Dems are unlikely to have enough MPs to give either side a majority with a coalition, and so they are unlikely to be able to demand voting reform. I also expect that they will be wary of having another referendum on voting reform after the roaring success of the last one.

    I think we're more likely to have a grand coalition than we are to have voting reform.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,195
    asjohnstone said:

    NoEasyDay said:


    The population of the UK has increased by approx 10% in the last few years most of working/ voting age. We know 8 out 10 immigrants vote Labour. And even if they don't vote they can take part in polls. Where are all these folks registered to vote, well I doubt its Kensington and Chelsea. They will buy and rent where the housing is cheapest which is solidly working class areas. Labour constituencies, rock solid Labour constituencies. Labour wasted vote syndrome anybody ?

    The population of the UK hasn't increased 10% in the "last few years" it went up 7% between 2001 and 2011. It's mostly been driven by births rather than immigration. Read the 2011 census for the facts.

    Most of the immigration that has occurred has taken place from the EU, EU citizens can't vote.

    You're pretty much wrong about everything
    I guess that's why Ukip has a chance in Boston and Skegness. Do we have voter registration numbers yet? I'd be interested to see the numbers in areas of the country with large numbers of EU immigrants.
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    JonCisBackJonCisBack Posts: 911
    JackW do you take bets?!
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,289
    Toffeenose said:

    MikeSmithson said:

    Sandpit said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Should I drink alcohol tomorrow evening? I am sorely tempted.

    I think we all will be at this rate.
    Quite. This is the election of a lifetime.

    Do any of the site's more esteemed contributors have memories of February 1974 and what that was like to live through?
    We didn't have Twitter or even smart phones

    I didn't even have a phone in 1974.
    In them days we was glad to have the price of a cup o' tea.
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    edited May 2015
    Kevin Maguire ‏@Kevin_Maguire ·
    Mirror election day front page: "Mirror Removals...Send 'Em Packing" Eton, Chipping Norton, Westminster


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    LaurusLaurus Posts: 10
    Toffeenose said:

    MikeSmithson said:

    Sandpit said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Should I drink alcohol tomorrow evening? I am sorely tempted.

    I think we all will be at this rate.
    Quite. This is the election of a lifetime.

    Do any of the site's more esteemed contributors have memories of February 1974 and what that was like to live through?
    We didn't have Twitter or even smart phones

    I didn't even have a phone in 1974.
    I didn't even have a mortal existence.
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    peterbusspeterbuss Posts: 109
    kle4 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Should I drink alcohol tomorrow evening? I am sorely tempted.

    I think we all will be at this rate.
    Quite. This is the election of a lifetime.

    Do any of the site's more esteemed contributors have memories of February 1974 and what that was like to live through?
    It's a secret that actually every poster on here is 25 years old or younger, hence the excitability combined with certainty of opinion.

    In all honesty, I too would be interested to know what it was like.
    Whilst disappointed with the result I would rate it way above this one for the quality of the arguments and campaigning. Heath called an Election because he thought he would walk it and see the Miners off unfortunately half way through a report came out backing up the miners wage claim! Nevertheless the result was still a shock to many and we had the undignified sight of Heath clinging on whilst not even being the largest Party. We then all came back for a re run in October with just as inconclusive a result.
    I think this has been quite the worst GE I can remember for the paucity of arguments in any meaningful sense. Friday morning we will all have been served a right dogs breakfast.

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    ProdicusProdicus Posts: 658
    Seems I got home just in time for the big one:

    BREAKING WIND NEWS **** BREAKING WIND NEWS **** BREAKING WIND NEWS ****

    Phew.
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    acf2310acf2310 Posts: 141
    Stig Abell ‏@StigAbell 23m23 minutes ago
    Tories to lead coalition on weekdays; Labour at weekends and on holidays. Shared custody of Nick Clegg, obviously.

    YouGov is definitely looking like a 10,000 sample tie.
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    dr_spyn said:

    Toffeenose said:

    MikeSmithson said:

    Sandpit said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Should I drink alcohol tomorrow evening? I am sorely tempted.

    I think we all will be at this rate.
    Quite. This is the election of a lifetime.

    Do any of the site's more esteemed contributors have memories of February 1974 and what that was like to live through?
    We didn't have Twitter or even smart phones

    I didn't even have a phone in 1974.
    In them days we was glad to have the price of a cup o' tea.
    Tea? You were lucky.

    We used to live in a paper bag in middle of t'road.
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    JonCisBackJonCisBack Posts: 911
    I have a bad feeling it's going to turn out about as bad as possible for the torires - i.e. a narrow non-win

    CON 282
    Lab 264
    LD 31
    SNP 49
    PC 4
    UKIP 2
    NIre 18
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