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SystemSystem Posts: 11,014
edited April 2015 in General

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It's over. Now we wait for the poll to tell us who have won. pic.twitter.com/ssnQy2qi2l

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    isamisam Posts: 40,911
    Now over to Emily Maitlis for the post debates interviews with Cameron and Clegg that @ScottP mentioned...

    Oh its William Hague
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    isamisam Posts: 40,911
    edited April 2015
    Betfair position

    +38.24 Nige
    +21.32 Sturge
    -66.29 Ed
    -160 the field

    #boothefield
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    IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    Ed Miliband.

    Cameron is such a coward.
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    bunncobunnco Posts: 169
    edited April 2015
    SunNation twitter worm shows big loser is Daily Express's Desmond who saw £1.3m vanish into a puff of smoke.
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    IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    The fact that PB Tories were banging on about the audience shows how Miliband was getting the best of it.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,973
    Mr. IOS, I'm shocked, you're normally so pro-Cameron :p
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    isamisam Posts: 40,911
    edited April 2015
    O'Flynn "Nigel he only grown up in a student union debate"

    About right
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    BenMBenM Posts: 1,795
    bunnco said:

    SunNation twitter worm shows big loser is Daley Express's Desmond who saw £1.3m vanish into a puff of smoke.

    Farage's closing remarks massively ironic after tonight's news.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Non-representative anecdote but I just switched off PB and onto Facebook and at the time of writing I'm not seeing even a single post about this from any of by Facebook friends. Quite a few posts from across the political spectrum during and after the ITV debate.

    Curious as to how much of the nation's interest this will have taken.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607
    Is there a poll?
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    IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    Come on Morris.

    The expectations were so low for this - he walked through it as the center ground candidate. What's more tomorrow is going to be all about how Cameron won't debate him.... again!
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    IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    Philip

    Probably got around 4 million voters watching. Not as much as a main BBC programme but that's a hell of a lot!
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    IOS said:

    The fact that PB Tories were banging on about the audience shows how Miliband was getting the best of it.

    Not at all.

    I thought Sturgeon did best of those on stage. SNP will likely be locked into top spot in Scotland I think.

    The one who shocked me the most was the Green leader. She actually sounded sensible which is very concerning given her policies are anything but.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,973
    Mr. IOS, centre*, we're not Americans.

    [And you're missing a 'with'].

    Cameron's absence may be part of the political chatter for a while. I doubt it'll make a significant impact.
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    IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    Morris

    It's making Ed's personal rating going up and up and up..
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Danny Alexander - we would not work with SNP.

    So SNP winning Labour seats if that's true clearly help the Tories. It seems to answer the question as to which way the LD's would go if Lab+SNP = Tory seats and LD hold the balance of power.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,243
    FPT
    I thought Nicola and the Indian girl, Leanne, did best :)
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    RECKLESS on TV. No split with Farage!

    All this "I don't want Farage holding the balance of power".

    News flash: Farage won't be holding the balance of power.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Do we actually know that there are polls being carried out?
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,600
    edited April 2015
    Philip_Thompson said:

    IOS said:

    The fact that PB Tories were banging on about the audience shows how Miliband was getting the best of it.

    Not at all.

    I thought Sturgeon did best of those on stage. SNP will likely be locked into top spot in Scotland I think.

    The one who shocked me the most was the Green leader. She actually sounded sensible which is very concerning given her policies are anything but.
    Agree
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    DairDair Posts: 6,108
    I've still not had my invite from populus. Are they waiting till 10 ?
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,243
    SF actually won the popular vote in NI last time around
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    Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 25,361
    So who did win? I didn't watch it, but last time weren't there worms and polls and things?
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    FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. IOS, centre*, we're not Americans.

    [And you're missing a 'with'].

    Cameron's absence may be part of the political chatter for a while. I doubt it'll make a significant impact.

    With Cameron and Clegg involved we would have had a different 'debate'. Was the last one any use? Do these 15 to 1 type debates do anything?
    Remind me - how many days left to go? Quite a few. Did anyone today actually do anything significant to justify the claims made for these debates ?
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    weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Farage's comment about one house every 7 minutes.

    Comes out at 70,000 houses a year.

    Which seems about right to house 300,000 net immigrants.
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Sky News ✔ @SkyNews

    Our Sky News Twitter poll says Nicola Sturgeon won tonight's debate, while Natalie Bennett came last. pic.twitter.com/xZ7NaVUEpu

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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,846
    Sounds a great success

    Voters walked out of a Tory campaign event – leaving flailing David Cameron red faced as he defended Conservative cuts.

    The Prime Minister hoped to win over mobile phone workers with a town hall-style question-and-answer session.

    But the bid backfired when they subjected him to a 42-minute grilling him over food banks, legal aid cuts and slashing benefits for the most vulnerable.

    The flustered PM, sweat glistening at the base of his neck, watched as up to 30 of the 200-strong audience at O2 in Leeds walked out during his appearance, preferring to go back to work than listen to his electioneering.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,717
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. IOS, centre*, we're not Americans.

    [And you're missing a 'with'].

    Cameron's absence may be part of the political chatter for a while. I doubt it'll make a significant impact.

    Probably not, but he missed an opportunity to try and take Ed down, and Ed was not taken down by the others in a way which will stick.
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,921
    I really wouldn't worry about the polling on this. From the sound of it no-one did anything to change a single vote.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Danny565 said:

    Do we actually know that there are polls being carried out?

    Yes Survation for the Mirror.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Tykejohnno said:


    Sky News ✔ @SkyNews

    Our Sky News Twitter poll says Nicola Sturgeon won tonight's debate, while Natalie Bennett came last. pic.twitter.com/xZ7NaVUEpu

    Twitter poll?
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,973
    Mr. Jonnie, bit of an unfair comment, given Farage wants to cut the number of migrants entering the country.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 38,937
    Philip_Thompson said:

    Non-representative anecdote but I just switched off PB and onto Facebook and at the time of writing I'm not seeing even a single post about this from any of by Facebook friends. Quite a few posts from across the political spectrum during and after the ITV debate.

    Curious as to how much of the nation's interest this will have taken.

    Same here. Several photos of babies, lots of scenic views from round-coast walkers (lucky bu**ers), and one photo of a phone box.

    I guess I'm just not heavily enough involved with the political scene. :-)
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    bigjohnowls said:

    Sounds a great success

    Voters walked out of a Tory campaign event – leaving flailing David Cameron red faced as he defended Conservative cuts.

    The Prime Minister hoped to win over mobile phone workers with a town hall-style question-and-answer session.

    But the bid backfired when they subjected him to a 42-minute grilling him over food banks, legal aid cuts and slashing benefits for the most vulnerable.

    The flustered PM, sweat glistening at the base of his neck, watched as up to 30 of the 200-strong audience at O2 in Leeds walked out during his appearance, preferring to go back to work than listen to his electioneering.

    But I thought we were always told that private-sector workers didn't care about public spending?
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    SouthamObserver said:

    I really wouldn't worry about the polling on this. From the sound of it no-one did anything to change a single vote.

    Didn't watch it. My impression is the same as yours. The public will probably note the one on one debate challenge, but a fair percentage of the public will be glad to be spared the political clutter on the main TV channels.
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    isamisam Posts: 40,911
    edited April 2015
    Are they putting on Irish accents? I'm seeing Nigel Dods
    Scott_P • Posts: 8,205 April 15
    "SMukesh said:So Nick and Dave get an extra interview with Evan Davis as they aren't in tomorrow's debate.Is that correct?"

    Scott_P • Posts: 8,205 April 15
    "No
    All 3 leaders get Evan. Nick last Monday, Dave tonight, Ed next week.
    Immediately after the bunfight tomorrow, the Tories and Lib Dems get 30 mins with Emily Maitlis to respond"
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    SF actually won the popular vote in NI last time around

    Maybe controversial but Sinn Fein winning otherwise-SDLP seats is great as far as I'm concerned.

    We need an abstentionous party winning mainland Labour seats too.
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,050
    The loser is Cameron, of course. Even worse are the LD's who made themselves irrelevant- one step below loser, but I do not know how you can classify that.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607
    I will ask the question again, is there actually going to be a poll tonight?
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,800
    bigjohnowls said:

    Sounds a great success

    Voters walked out of a Tory campaign event – leaving flailing David Cameron red faced as he defended Conservative cuts.

    The Prime Minister hoped to win over mobile phone workers with a town hall-style question-and-answer session.

    But the bid backfired when they subjected him to a 42-minute grilling him over food banks, legal aid cuts and slashing benefits for the most vulnerable.

    The flustered PM, sweat glistening at the base of his neck, watched as up to 30 of the 200-strong audience at O2 in Leeds walked out during his appearance, preferring to go back to work than listen to his electioneering.

    Source?
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,973
    Incidentally, for those who missed it this morning, the latest episode in sci-fi pirate serial Zodiac Eclipse is up now:
    http://www.kraxon.com/zodiac-eclipse-negotiation/

    All episodes available for free viewing here [oldest at the bottom]:
    http://www.kraxon.com/category/zodiac-eclipse/
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    Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,297
    Sean_F said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Sounds a great success

    Voters walked out of a Tory campaign event – leaving flailing David Cameron red faced as he defended Conservative cuts.

    The Prime Minister hoped to win over mobile phone workers with a town hall-style question-and-answer session.

    But the bid backfired when they subjected him to a 42-minute grilling him over food banks, legal aid cuts and slashing benefits for the most vulnerable.

    The flustered PM, sweat glistening at the base of his neck, watched as up to 30 of the 200-strong audience at O2 in Leeds walked out during his appearance, preferring to go back to work than listen to his electioneering.

    Source?
    The Mirror I take it.

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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,901
    Just plain odd that Cameron didn't give a Tory voice tonight.

    Don't care about electoral tactics, it's wrong not to represent 30% of public opinion.
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    weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. Jonnie, bit of an unfair comment, given Farage wants to cut the number of migrants entering the country.

    I think the comment is pertinent. If you think it unfair then it has struck home. There is no indication that net migration is going to fall - and will rise substantially when Greece goes belly up. We only created 120,000 homes last year - take off the 70,000 or so for immigrants and that leaves 50,000 for people on waiting lists.
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    Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    bigjohnowls said:

    Sounds a great success

    Voters walked out of a Tory campaign event – leaving flailing David Cameron red faced as he defended Conservative cuts.

    The Prime Minister hoped to win over mobile phone workers with a town hall-style question-and-answer session.

    But the bid backfired when they subjected him to a 42-minute grilling him over food banks, legal aid cuts and slashing benefits for the most vulnerable.

    The flustered PM, sweat glistening at the base of his neck, watched as up to 30 of the 200-strong audience at O2 in Leeds walked out during his appearance, preferring to go back to work than listen to his electioneering.

    Until I read that I thought tonight's debate was the biggest political non-story of all time. I note you don't attribute it - Mirror?
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    IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    Jonathon - what do you expect. Short term aims and making mistakes.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,286
    Betfair Most Seats:

    Pre-debate: Con 1.54
    Post-debate: Con 1.53
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    EastwingerEastwinger Posts: 351
    bigjohnowls said:

    Sounds a great success

    Voters walked out of a Tory campaign event – leaving flailing David Cameron red faced as he defended Conservative cuts.

    The Prime Minister hoped to win over mobile phone workers with a town hall-style question-and-answer session.

    But the bid backfired when they subjected him to a 42-minute grilling him over food banks, legal aid cuts and slashing benefits for the most vulnerable.

    The flustered PM, sweat glistening at the base of his neck, watched as up to 30 of the 200-strong audience at O2 in Leeds walked out during his appearance, preferring to go back to work than listen to his electioneering.

    Wot, only 15% Labourites, surely some mistake.

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    SaltireSaltire Posts: 525
    Sean_F said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Sounds a great success

    Voters walked out of a Tory campaign event – leaving flailing David Cameron red faced as he defended Conservative cuts.

    The Prime Minister hoped to win over mobile phone workers with a town hall-style question-and-answer session.

    But the bid backfired when they subjected him to a 42-minute grilling him over food banks, legal aid cuts and slashing benefits for the most vulnerable.

    The flustered PM, sweat glistening at the base of his neck, watched as up to 30 of the 200-strong audience at O2 in Leeds walked out during his appearance, preferring to go back to work than listen to his electioneering.

    Source?
    Found this from (no surprise) the Guardian
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/16/tv-debate-pah-cameron-prefers-a-jolly-meet-and-greet-in-yorkshire
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,973
    Mr. Jonnie, struck home? I'm not voting UKIP.

    I am, however, off for the night. Goodnight, everyone.
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    MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Oooo. Couple of Kippers on BBC.
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    BenMBenM Posts: 1,795
    BBC Debate: Miliband scores and Farage misses

    http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2015/04/16/bbc-debate-miliband-scores-and-farage-misses
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,243
    MaxPB said:

    I will ask the question again, is there actually going to be a poll tonight?

    YouGov 10.30?
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Sturgeon won sky's twitter vote.

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/588807558854414337
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    DairDair Posts: 6,108
    MP_SE said:

    Oooo. Couple of Kippers on BBC.

    One of the Kippers on BBC wants to vote SNP now.

    Lulz.
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    CuthbertBedeCuthbertBede Posts: 19
    MaxPB said:

    I will ask the question again, is there actually going to be a poll tonight?

    I've answered a poll on the debate for Survation, so I assume that'll be out tonight.
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    MaxPB said:

    I will ask the question again, is there actually going to be a poll tonight?

    YouGov 10.30?
    Nothing but repeats....
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    saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245
    Sean_F said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Sounds a great success

    Voters walked out of a Tory campaign event – leaving flailing David Cameron red faced as he defended Conservative cuts.

    The Prime Minister hoped to win over mobile phone workers with a town hall-style question-and-answer session.

    But the bid backfired when they subjected him to a 42-minute grilling him over food banks, legal aid cuts and slashing benefits for the most vulnerable.

    The flustered PM, sweat glistening at the base of his neck, watched as up to 30 of the 200-strong audience at O2 in Leeds walked out during his appearance, preferring to go back to work than listen to his electioneering.

    Source?
    Strangely he forgot to attribute it.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,910
    Who won the debate?
    Our Twitter poll results:
    Sturgeon: 54%
    Miliband: 20%
    Farage: 17.5%
    Wood: 4.5%
    Bennett: 4%

    Bloody Hell.
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    CuthbertBede said:

    MaxPB said:

    I will ask the question again, is there actually going to be a poll tonight?

    I've answered a poll on the debate for Survation, so I assume that'll be out tonight.
    Ladbrokes is settling on survation I think.
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    James Chapman (Mail) @jameschappers

    Audience member: 'I thought Nicola Sturgeon was great. I was going to vote Ukip.' #leadersdebate

    LOL
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,983
    SNP dominate twitter, need to see a scientific poll
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    MaxPB said:

    I will ask the question again, is there actually going to be a poll tonight?

    YouGov 10.30?
    That's just the regular poll, not specific for the debate. People are betting on this but how will the winner be picked?
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,243
    Nicola for PM!

    :lol:
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    The Cameron thing where he got a bit of a hard time...once upon a time, that was called a normal day out campaigning, but these days hardly any politicians ever put themselves out there where they actually talk to an unfiltered audience with questions that haven't been vetted beforehand.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,600
    Sturgeon leading the BBC 10 o'clock news.......
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Boulton: "Leaders of the five main political parties have just finished debating..."
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Great segment for Miliband vs Sturgeon on BBC News at 10 introduction. Sturgeon looks very weak there.

    (Not what I thought over the 90 minutes overall)
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    MaxPB said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    MaxPB said:

    I will ask the question again, is there actually going to be a poll tonight?

    YouGov 10.30?
    That's just the regular poll, not specific for the debate. People are betting on this but how will the winner be picked?
    Survation for the Mirror.

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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,243
    MaxPB said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    MaxPB said:

    I will ask the question again, is there actually going to be a poll tonight?

    YouGov 10.30?
    That's just the regular poll, not specific for the debate. People are betting on this but how will the winner be picked?
    Oh sorry thought you meant "normal" polls!
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    StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092
    Come on survation, get that poll out already. Everyone's getting antsy enough to start talking about twitter sentiment analysis as if it's a real thing
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    MaxPB said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    MaxPB said:

    I will ask the question again, is there actually going to be a poll tonight?

    YouGov 10.30?
    That's just the regular poll, not specific for the debate. People are betting on this but how will the winner be picked?
    Survation.

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    TabmanTabman Posts: 1,046
    tyson said:

    The loser is Cameron, of course. Even worse are the LD's who made themselves irrelevant- one step below loser, but I do not know how you can classify that.

    AIUI the lib dems wanted to be there but we're prevented from attending. I'm not sure why though.
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    Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    tyson said:

    The loser is Cameron, of course. Even worse are the LD's who made themselves irrelevant- one step below loser, but I do not know how you can classify that.

    Absolutely baffling how their absence is to be explained. I wonder how many viewers thought they were excluded because they are now too minor a party to appear alongside big hitters like the Greens? 15%? 20%? Enough to damage them, anyway.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Pulpstar said:

    Who won the debate?
    Our Twitter poll results:
    Sturgeon: 54%
    Miliband: 20%
    Farage: 17.5%
    Wood: 4.5%
    Bennett: 4%

    Bloody Hell.

    And that is twitter for you...The media really should not be creating or quoting any sort of voodoo polls like this.
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    SaltireSaltire Posts: 525
    saddened said:

    Sean_F said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Sounds a great success

    Voters walked out of a Tory campaign event – leaving flailing David Cameron red faced as he defended Conservative cuts.

    The Prime Minister hoped to win over mobile phone workers with a town hall-style question-and-answer session.

    But the bid backfired when they subjected him to a 42-minute grilling him over food banks, legal aid cuts and slashing benefits for the most vulnerable.

    The flustered PM, sweat glistening at the base of his neck, watched as up to 30 of the 200-strong audience at O2 in Leeds walked out during his appearance, preferring to go back to work than listen to his electioneering.

    Source?
    Strangely he forgot to attribute it.
    I did find something similar from the Guardian. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/16/tv-debate-pah-cameron-prefers-a-jolly-meet-and-greet-in-yorkshire
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    BenMBenM Posts: 1,795
    I think the participants in all the debates in this campaign have done rather well. There hasn't been a complete disaster or meltdown.

    Which makes Cameron and Clegg's decision to sit this one out even more questionable.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,279
    An excellent debate.

    For the Cons.

    The impression now is that the SNP want to run the UK on their terms. No wonder Ed said he wouldn't have a coalition with them. It wasn't enough. Ed came over as someone who was more done to than doing. Nicola was strong but Nige was right - plenty of Brits won't like what they heard Nicola saying.

    Ed looks weak and those posters (with Salmond albeit) have never looked more acute.
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Nick Sutton ✔ @suttonnick

    Friday's Guardian front page:
    Call for new Bradford fire inquiry
    #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers pic.twitter.com/THBjNQgIDV

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    saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245
    Philip_Thompson said:

    Great segment for Miliband vs Sturgeon on BBC News at 10 introduction. Sturgeon looks very weak there.

    (Not what I thought over the 90 minutes overall)

    Careful, they'll kick off about the BBC again.
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    IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    BBC very very good for Ed.
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    MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Stereotomy said:

    Come on survation, get that poll out already. Everyone's getting antsy enough to start talking about twitter sentiment analysis as if it's a real thing

    I cannot do any work until I know the results..........

    The real loser tonight was the BBC. A real disgrace.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Guardian thinks the most important thing about tonights debate....that Farage thought the audience was bias.

    I glad I missed if that was the telling moment.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,243
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Who won the debate?
    Our Twitter poll results:
    Sturgeon: 54%
    Miliband: 20%
    Farage: 17.5%
    Wood: 4.5%
    Bennett: 4%

    Bloody Hell.

    And that is twitter for you...The media really should not be creating or quoting any sort of voodoo polls like this.
    Did you hear the election anorak from Warsaw who moved to Haiti?

    He became a Voodoo Pole!
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    StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092
    MP_SE said:

    The real loser tonight was the BBC. A real disgrace.

    ???????????????

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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607
    Philip_Thompson said:

    Great segment for Miliband vs Sturgeon on BBC News at 10 introduction. Sturgeon looks very weak there.

    (Not what I thought over the 90 minutes overall)

    Pro-Labour editing from the BBC? No real surprise, they might as well change their name to Labour Broadcast Service.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,096
    bigjohnowls said:

    Sounds a great success

    Voters walked out of a Tory campaign event – leaving flailing David Cameron red faced as he defended Conservative cuts.

    The Prime Minister hoped to win over mobile phone workers with a town hall-style question-and-answer session.

    But the bid backfired when they subjected him to a 42-minute grilling him over food banks, legal aid cuts and slashing benefits for the most vulnerable.

    The flustered PM, sweat glistening at the base of his neck, watched as up to 30 of the 200-strong audience at O2 in Leeds walked out during his appearance, preferring to go back to work than listen to his electioneering.

    Ed will be storming to victory if the 15% who walked out all vote for him.

    In Leeds.

    FFs....
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    bunncobunnco Posts: 169
    Good point from Toby Young over at The Telegraph: "Finally, the reason this was good for the Prime Minister is because it gave us a taste of the chaos that will ensue if Ed Miliband is in a position to form a government on May 8. This is what a “rainbow coalition” would look like – a weak Labour leader being pushed to the left by three anti-austerity party leaders."

    Spot On.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    IOS said:

    BBC very very good for Ed.

    Was that tonight, or last night, or the night before.I will predict tomorrow, the BBC very very good for Ed too.
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    saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245
    Saltire said:

    saddened said:

    Sean_F said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Sounds a great success

    Voters walked out of a Tory campaign event – leaving flailing David Cameron red faced as he defended Conservative cuts.

    The Prime Minister hoped to win over mobile phone workers with a town hall-style question-and-answer session.

    But the bid backfired when they subjected him to a 42-minute grilling him over food banks, legal aid cuts and slashing benefits for the most vulnerable.

    The flustered PM, sweat glistening at the base of his neck, watched as up to 30 of the 200-strong audience at O2 in Leeds walked out during his appearance, preferring to go back to work than listen to his electioneering.

    Source?
    Strangely he forgot to attribute it.
    I did find something similar from the Guardian. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/16/tv-debate-pah-cameron-prefers-a-jolly-meet-and-greet-in-yorkshire
    Thanks, it was either going to be them or the mirror
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    TwistedFireStopperTwistedFireStopper Posts: 2,538
    edited April 2015
    I'd make Sturgeon the clear winner, by a long way. Miliband didn't bomb, but didn't shine either, but on the whole, I'd guess he'd be happy. Farage was quite bold, I think, and won't have upset his core vote. Of the other two, Wood is pretty irrelevent, but did ok, and Bennett did better than I thought she would. Not really a game changer, but it gives Labour headlines to attack Cameron as a coward, so they'll be pleased.
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    BenMBenM Posts: 1,795
    bunnco said:

    Good point from Toby Young over at The Telegraph: "Finally, the reason this was good for the Prime Minister is because it gave us a taste of the chaos that will ensue if Ed Miliband is in a position to form a government on May 8. This is what a “rainbow coalition” would look like – a weak Labour leader being pushed to the left by three anti-austerity party leaders."

    Spot On.

    "chaos" hasn't really taken hold as a thing in this campaign.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    bunnco said:

    Good point from Toby Young over at The Telegraph: "Finally, the reason this was good for the Prime Minister is because it gave us a taste of the chaos that will ensue if Ed Miliband is in a position to form a government on May 8. This is what a “rainbow coalition” would look like – a weak Labour leader being pushed to the left by three anti-austerity party leaders."

    Spot On.

    Except the reason people fear the SNP is not because they're "anti-austerity". It's because people fear it would mean preferential treatment for Scotland and/or would pave the way for independence.
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    MarqueeMark said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Sounds a great success

    Voters walked out of a Tory campaign event – leaving flailing David Cameron red faced as he defended Conservative cuts.

    The Prime Minister hoped to win over mobile phone workers with a town hall-style question-and-answer session.

    But the bid backfired when they subjected him to a 42-minute grilling him over food banks, legal aid cuts and slashing benefits for the most vulnerable.

    The flustered PM, sweat glistening at the base of his neck, watched as up to 30 of the 200-strong audience at O2 in Leeds walked out during his appearance, preferring to go back to work than listen to his electioneering.

    Ed will be storming to victory if the 15% who walked out all vote for him.

    In Leeds.

    FFs....
    I saw something it was one person who walked out.

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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,279
    Ishmael_X said:

    tyson said:

    The loser is Cameron, of course. Even worse are the LD's who made themselves irrelevant- one step below loser, but I do not know how you can classify that.

    Absolutely baffling how their absence is to be explained. I wonder how many viewers thought they were excluded because they are now too minor a party to appear alongside big hitters like the Greens? 15%? 20%? Enough to damage them, anyway.
    It allowed Ed & Nicola to show their cards. Nicola couldn't help herself but spell out the type of UK she is prepared to accept in order to support Lab while Ed had nowhere to run bar refusing the "offer".
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    FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    BenM said:

    bunnco said:

    Good point from Toby Young over at The Telegraph: "Finally, the reason this was good for the Prime Minister is because it gave us a taste of the chaos that will ensue if Ed Miliband is in a position to form a government on May 8. This is what a “rainbow coalition” would look like – a weak Labour leader being pushed to the left by three anti-austerity party leaders."

    Spot On.

    "chaos" hasn't really taken hold as a thing in this campaign.
    it has if your posts are any guide
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited April 2015
    As predictable as the Mirror....

    You're not strong enough': Nightmare for Miliband as Sturgeon insists he cannot get to No.10 without her help

    Do I need to quote the source?

    And whatever Ed is on, I don't want any thanks...

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/16/20/27A49BC100000578-3042402-image-m-48_1429213684506.jpg
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,258
    After the hype from tonight settles down the remaining three weeks of this campaign will boil down to the economy, the relationship between labour and the SNP, and Trident. The part on Trident from Sturgeon and Wood tanked indicating that Trident and the Country's security is very important at present. I have been saying this on this forum for weeks and I am certain that David Cameron and the conservatives will be homing in on this and in view of the generally negative response to UKIP may well secure many returning voters. Should think Desmond from the Express may have some concerns on his investment tonight
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @bbcnickrobinson: The Ed v Nicola show. My blog on the debate and why David Cameron will be pleased he wasn't there http://t.co/xPrnEmYpWM
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    FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    saddened said:

    Saltire said:

    saddened said:

    Sean_F said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Sounds a great success

    Voters walked out of a Tory campaign event – leaving flailing David Cameron red faced as he defended Conservative cuts.

    The Prime Minister hoped to win over mobile phone workers with a town hall-style question-and-answer session.

    But the bid backfired when they subjected him to a 42-minute grilling him over food banks, legal aid cuts and slashing benefits for the most vulnerable.

    The flustered PM, sweat glistening at the base of his neck, watched as up to 30 of the 200-strong audience at O2 in Leeds walked out during his appearance, preferring to go back to work than listen to his electioneering.

    Source?
    Strangely he forgot to attribute it.
    I did find something similar from the Guardian. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/16/tv-debate-pah-cameron-prefers-a-jolly-meet-and-greet-in-yorkshire
    Thanks, it was either going to be them or the mirror
    Googling finds the quotes under a mirror banner.
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