FIFA announce 2022 World Cup Final will be played on the 18th December 2022. The Sunday before Christmas.. Just when everyone is busy getting ready for Christmas.
#boycottworldcup2022
At least we know the home nations will not be involved.
Do we? I'd have thought England will still be in the top 20 countries in the world and potentially could get there although given whats going on in Qatar we really should not go. We should boycott it. Hundreds if not thousands of foreign workers are dying doing construction work over there.
I detest the Islamist targetting of civilians as much as the IRA. There's a perverse dignity about what the Kamikaze did. And given the Japs were nuked after the Battle of the Midway - well I can't really quibble about morality here
They really were no different to suicide bombers of today since their planes were flying bombs and they were waved off as heroes destined never to return
Yes and no.
The Kamikazi pilots hurled themselves at heavily armed military shipping. You can see the anti aircraft fire pouring out at them in the World at War programme. Their enemies were seasoned troops with a fighting chance of survival.
Suicide bombers go for civilians.
This is what annoys me about islamists. A decent army would go through them like a dose of salts.
While the south Mediterranean nutters are the last people who I would stand up for, exactly why should anyone fight a war in a way that their enemy is rather better at than them? Once you start a war the end largely justifies the means.
@rowenamason: Ukip saying they have suspended Janice Atkinson MEP
@BBCBreaking: UKIP MEP & #GE2015 candidate Janice Atkinson suspended from party over "allegations of serious financial nature" http://t.co/7YyhsDasmw
Would be good if the first the media, and therefore the public, got to hear about MPs irregularities in the three main parties was an annoucement by their party that they had been suspended.
I detest the Islamist targetting of civilians as much as the IRA. There's a perverse dignity about what the Kamikaze did. And given the Japs were nuked after the Battle of the Midway - well I can't really quibble about morality here
They really were no different to suicide bombers of today since their planes were flying bombs and they were waved off as heroes destined never to return
Yes and no.
The Kamikazi pilots hurled themselves at heavily armed military shipping. You can see the anti aircraft fire pouring out at them in the World at War programme. Their enemies were seasoned troops with a fighting chance of survival.
Suicide bombers go for civilians.
This is what annoys me about islamists. A decent army would go through them like a dose of salts.
While the south Mediterranean nutters are the last people who I would stand up for, exactly why should anyone fight a war in a way that their enemy is rather better at than them? Once you start a war the end largely justifies the means.
Are you thinking of a later battle? THe kamikazes didn't come in till well after Midway IIRC (apart from the odd chap in a damaged plane on the spur of the moment).
Ignoring posts like Roger's meal with his mate.. and Rosaree's ridiculous posts what actual vibes are you getting re Budget 2015???. I've met lots of people but not a soul has mentioned it in any way whatsoever.
A couple of people looking up the figures but no great enthusiasms but no complaints either.
I think it was basically a large dog whistle, saying if we win things will carry on much the way they are but if you are daft enough to vote for Dwayne Dibley heaven knows what might happen.
FIFA announce 2022 World Cup Final will be played on the 18th December 2022. The Sunday before Christmas.. Just when everyone is busy getting ready for Christmas.
#boycottworldcup2022
A lot of the World wont! Its not the Christian Cup!
And I'm not religious but it will severely disrupt two seasons football for the continent of the most heavily viewed football there is with considerable financial implications for the clubs and their sponsors and why because a bunch of fat cat Oil Shieks bribed a bunch of corrupt administrators.
That's why it should be boycotted. FIFA represent everything that is wrong with unaccountable global organisations and as for Blatter. I hope its a complete and utter failure.
Oh and thats not even going into the alleged issues around slave labour being used to build the stadiums.
There could well be reasons why its dodgy to have the Cup in Qatar, but personally I think its will be quite fun to have the World Cup at Christmas time.. Clubs play all summer virtually anyway for filthy lucre and most players will not be playing in it anyway
AFAIK the Kamikaze were deployed after the Midway when the Japs were in full lock down mode and practicing using wooden guns, bamboo spears et al. I watched that episode of The World At War about 5hrs ago.
I detest the Islamist targetting of civilians as much as the IRA. There's a perverse dignity about what the Kamikaze did. And given the Japs were nuked after the Battle of the Midway - well I can't really quibble about morality here
They really were no different to suicide bombers of today since their planes were flying bombs and they were waved off as heroes destined never to return
Yes and no.
The Kamikazi pilots hurled themselves at heavily armed military shipping. You can see the anti aircraft fire pouring out at them in the World at War programme. Their enemies were seasoned troops with a fighting chance of survival.
Suicide bombers go for civilians.
This is what annoys me about islamists. A decent army would go through them like a dose of salts.
While the south Mediterranean nutters are the last people who I would stand up for, exactly why should anyone fight a war in a way that their enemy is rather better at than them? Once you start a war the end largely justifies the means.
Are you thinking of a later battle? THe kamikazes didn't come in till well after Midway IIRC (apart from the odd chap in a damaged plane on the spur of the moment).
FIFA announce 2022 World Cup Final will be played on the 18th December 2022. The Sunday before Christmas.. Just when everyone is busy getting ready for Christmas.
#boycottworldcup2022
A lot of the World wont! Its not the Christian Cup!
And I'm not religious but it will severely disrupt two seasons football for the continent of the most heavily viewed football there is with considerable financial implications for the clubs and their sponsors and why because a bunch of fat cat Oil Shieks bribed a bunch of corrupt administrators.
That's why it should be boycotted. FIFA represent everything that is wrong with unaccountable global organisations and as for Blatter. I hope its a complete and utter failure.
Oh and thats not even going into the alleged issues around slave labour being used to build the stadiums.
There could well be reasons why its dodgy to have the Cup in Qatar, but personally I think its will be quite fun to have the World Cup at Christmas time.. Clubs play all summer virtually anyway for filthy lucre and most players will not be playing in it anyway
Well I'm sure all those that have died building the stadiums will think its quite fun too!
Ignoring posts like Roger's meal with his mate.. and Rosaree's ridiculous posts what actual vibes are you getting re Budget 2015???. I've met lots of people but not a soul has mentioned it in any way whatsoever.
Seems to me it was completely meh, and meh is exactly what was needed. That is why the dim lefties are seething, because they were hoping GO was going to abolish IHT and put a 35% cap on bankers' income tax.
@rowenamason: Ukip saying they have suspended Janice Atkinson MEP
@BBCBreaking: UKIP MEP & #GE2015 candidate Janice Atkinson suspended from party over "allegations of serious financial nature" http://t.co/7YyhsDasmw
Whatever happened to about those allegations made against Amjad Bashir? I believe evidence was passed to the police so maybe they are still investigating it.
Looks like Ms Atkinson has been filmed asking a restaurant to inflate a bill to claim back on expenses.
If Diane James dropped out because she didn't had a chance to win in NW Hampshire she could try Folkstone now that there is an urgent need by UKIP to plug a gap at a winnable seat for them.
However the first ones to show up to the selection battle will probably be the Hamiltons again.
OT. I went to a photographic exhibition today in Liverpool looking at the work of Martin Parr and Tony Ray Jones. Tony died in his early 30's but was one of the first of what are now called 'street photograhers'.
Anyway my reason for posting is to say that all those who think of Liverpool as it used to be.... well its changed. Its really vibrant and noisy. Full of galleries restaurants and wide boulevard streets. A cross between Covent Garden and Nice. You're still can't escape the Beatles and Gerry and the Pacemakers but nontheless well worth a visit
Ignoring posts like Roger's meal with his mate.. and Rosaree's ridiculous posts what actual vibes are you getting re Budget 2015???. I've met lots of people but not a soul has mentioned it in any way whatsoever.
I've heard 2 comments only - one decrying the state of local government after yet more cuts (given that no side is going to stop cutting such an easy target), but that was at a local government office in fairness, and the other was a 'you cannot trust a word any of them say' comment that just happened to apply to the budget (this from someone I know has never voted and probably never will. So next to nothing.
Falseflag Indeed, some neoconservatives may prefer Hillary to Paul
TUD Ultimataly it is Islamists who will have to beat ISIS and the Taliban, whether the Iraqi and Afghan and Pakistani armies, the Kurds, Assad and Iran
If Diane James dropped out because she didn't had a chance to win in NW Hampshire she could try Folkstone now that there is an urgent need by UKIP to plug a gap at a winnable seat for them.
However the first ones to show up to the selection battle will probably be the Hamiltons again.
James dropped out because of illness to a close relative.
@rowenamason: Ukip saying they have suspended Janice Atkinson MEP
@BBCBreaking: UKIP MEP & #GE2015 candidate Janice Atkinson suspended from party over "allegations of serious financial nature" http://t.co/7YyhsDasmw
Whatever happened to about those allegations made against Amjad Bashir? I believe evidence was passed to the police so maybe they are still investigating it.
Looks like Ms Atkinson has been filmed asking a restaurant to inflate a bill to claim back on expenses.
Why is everyone so hooked up with expenses, whether an MP or an MEP or a CEO or a simple employee or even university lecturer there are always instances where they are trying to get money with the expenses trick.
I can fully understand why someone who is poor or middle class trying to get their hands on more money by shady schemes like those, however someone with a large salary has no reason to do it.
@rowenamason: Ukip saying they have suspended Janice Atkinson MEP
@BBCBreaking: UKIP MEP & #GE2015 candidate Janice Atkinson suspended from party over "allegations of serious financial nature" http://t.co/7YyhsDasmw
Whatever happened to about those allegations made against Amjad Bashir? I believe evidence was passed to the police so maybe they are still investigating it.
Looks like Ms Atkinson has been filmed asking a restaurant to inflate a bill to claim back on expenses.
But they have allowances... they do not need to claim expenses. Thats what Farage said over his office bills. Does it make sense, or rather is it believable, for any member of any parliament to ask a member of the public to inflate a bill to fake expenses??
@rowenamason: Ukip saying they have suspended Janice Atkinson MEP
@BBCBreaking: UKIP MEP & #GE2015 candidate Janice Atkinson suspended from party over "allegations of serious financial nature" http://t.co/7YyhsDasmw
Whatever happened to about those allegations made against Amjad Bashir? I believe evidence was passed to the police so maybe they are still investigating it.
Looks like Ms Atkinson has been filmed asking a restaurant to inflate a bill to claim back on expenses.
Guido understands Atkinson racked up a bill at a restaurant, then allegedly returned at a later date and was filmed haggling with staff to increase the bill so she could claim it on her expenses.
If Diane James dropped out because she didn't had a chance to win in NW Hampshire she could try Folkstone now that there is an urgent need by UKIP to plug a gap at a winnable seat for them.
However the first ones to show up to the selection battle will probably be the Hamiltons again.
James dropped out because of illness to a close relative.
Well some known figure who has a positive profile has to plug the gap in Folkestone for UKIP.
Ignoring posts like Roger's meal with his mate.. and Rosaree's ridiculous posts what actual vibes are you getting re Budget 2015???. I've met lots of people but not a soul has mentioned it in any way whatsoever.
A couple of people looking up the figures but no great enthusiasms but no complaints either.
I think it was basically a large dog whistle, saying if we win things will carry on much the way they are but if you are daft enough to vote for Dwayne Dibley heaven knows what might happen.
Yes but that is still not stopping the BBC and its correspondents spreading Labours rumours of cuts. They are also managing to do a hagiography of Sturgeon.
Just the opposite. The facts changed. Instead of doing what Labour or Tory do and try and argue black is white, the SNP have just accepted the numbers, adjusted their outlook and moved on.
Hence : -
New full-scale Scottish poll from Survation -
SNP 47.1% Labour 28.0% Conservatives 14.5% Liberal Democrats 4.0% UKIP 3.4% Greens 2.3%
Lab could end austerity on 7/5/15 and stick within their plans according to IFS.
75% of welfare cuts fall on workers according to IFS
You seem remarkably excited by the discovery that Labour would increase borrowing, compared with Osborne. Hadn't you realised that if you borrow more you can spend more, in the short term at least?
Just the opposite. The facts changed. Instead of doing what Labour or Tory do and try and argue black is white, the SNP have just accepted the numbers, adjusted their outlook and moved on.
Hence : -
New full-scale Scottish poll from Survation -
SNP 47.1% Labour 28.0% Conservatives 14.5% Liberal Democrats 4.0% UKIP 3.4% Greens 2.3%
Ignoring posts like Roger's meal with his mate.. and Rosaree's ridiculous posts what actual vibes are you getting re Budget 2015???. I've met lots of people but not a soul has mentioned it in any way whatsoever.
A couple of people looking up the figures but no great enthusiasms but no complaints either.
I think it was basically a large dog whistle, saying if we win things will carry on much the way they are but if you are daft enough to vote for Dwayne Dibley heaven knows what might happen.
Yes but that is still not stopping the BBC and its correspondents spreading Labours rumours of cuts. They are also managing to do a hagiography of Sturgeon.
Of course there will be cuts. But other than those directly affected most people are not greatly bothered. After all Labour have been bleating about cuts and bedroom taxes for years and what happened - the end of the world failed to materialise and the economy started to recover. They also suspect that Labour just means no cuts for a while then Greek style cuts when the the IMF get called in after a couple of years of fiscal F88kwittery
Lab could end austerity on 7/5/15 and stick within their plans according to IFS.
75% of welfare cuts fall on workers according to IFS
You seem remarkably excited by the discovery that Labour would increase borrowing. Hadn't you realised that if you borrow more you can spend more, in the short term at least?
Indeed, until it all goes wrong, the IMF get called in and the Greek style cuts start.
While I think Gideons recovery is to an extent a debt fuelled bubble, its pretty obvious that another term of Labour being compassionate with other peoples money would bring the economy to ruin.
I must stay the attrition rate for UKIP MEPs, as well as leading Westminster candidates, is quite spectacular.
What a fine, moral party they are, so unlike those LibLabCon spivs.
The attrition rate of UKIP MEPS is quite remarkable. For so few MEPs they have such a high level of jailbirds, defections, resignations and scandals. Yet before each European elections the UKIP party tells us that it has done a better professional job (than the previous time) in selecting its candidates.....
At least their candidates do get attrited, and by them. You happy that Aidan Burley retains the whip, and was never deselected?
He went to a stag party dressed in a silly costume and behaved very badly. Reprehensible for someone in his position, but not quite comparable with fraud, is it? And he's not standing as a candidate.
The attrition rate of UKIP MEPS is quite remarkable. For so few MEPs they have such a high level of jailbirds, defections, resignations and scandals. Yet before each European elections the UKIP party tells us that it has done a better professional job (than the previous time) in selecting its candidates.....
The practice of inflating expenses is quite common in other fields. The real popular one was consultants billing the full cost of hotels to their clients only to receive a rebate from the hotel chain. They did this with flights, trains, etc. These firms still do work for the public sector...
At least their candidates do get attrited, and by them. You happy that Aidan Burley retains the whip, and was never deselected?
He went to a stag party dressed in a silly costume and behaved very badly. Reprehensible for someone in his position, but not quite comparable with fraud, is it? And he's not standing as a candidate.
I'd probably vote for Aiden tbh if he was standing. Getting sick of press hatchet jobs right now !
The practice of inflating expenses is quite common in other fields. The real popular one was consultants billing the full cost of hotels to their clients only to receive a rebate from the hotel chain. They did this with flights, trains, etc. These firms still do work for the public sector...
I'd argue airmiles are at least as corrupt a system. Employees deliberately select flights so as to recieve a kickback.
Lab could end austerity on 7/5/15 and stick within their plans according to IFS.
75% of welfare cuts fall on workers according to IFS
You seem remarkably excited by the discovery that Labour would increase borrowing, compared with Osborne. Hadn't you realised that if you borrow more you can spend more, in the short term at least?
Had you realized that we have much worse cuts to come under the Tories than those seen so far.
You expect it will be as obvious where these will fall in the manifesto as the VAT increase in 2010 was?
Lab could end austerity on 7/5/15 and stick within their plans according to IFS.
75% of welfare cuts fall on workers according to IFS
You seem remarkably excited by the discovery that Labour would increase borrowing, compared with Osborne. Hadn't you realised that if you borrow more you can spend more, in the short term at least?
Had you realized that we have much worse cuts to come under the Tories than those seen so far.
You expect it will be as obvious where these will fall in the manifesto as the VAT increase in 2010 was?
How do you propose Balls cuts the deficit without cutting spending? Please tell.
Lab could end austerity on 7/5/15 and stick within their plans according to IFS.
75% of welfare cuts fall on workers according to IFS
You seem remarkably excited by the discovery that Labour would increase borrowing, compared with Osborne. Hadn't you realised that if you borrow more you can spend more, in the short term at least?
Had you realized that we have much worse cuts to come under the Torieswhoever wins the election than those seen so far.
You expect it will be as obvious where these will fall in the manifesto as the VAT increase in 2010 was?
I must stay the attrition rate for UKIP MEPs, as well as leading Westminster candidates, is quite spectacular.
What a fine, moral party they are, so unlike those LibLabCon spivs.
Cycling has achieved a reputation as a dopers paradise because it is one of the few sports which makes a serious attempt to limit doping.
Which it did because it's reputation was in tatters after the winners of - what - twenty four Tour de France's had to be vacated due to doping.
There are bigger sports with similar rates of top events being won by people clearly following a doping regime. Without arousing your father's fear of litigation by naming specifics, it's pretty obvious that some sports have clearly succeeded in a see no evil, hear no evil approach. Given journalists clearly can't make or spread accusations which aren't propagated by the official anti-doping bodies, it's been a very successful way to avoid the perception of an issue.
Have the chances of a UKIP win in Folkestone & Hythe just improved?
Depending on who the new candidate is, probably. I for one, am not sorry to see Janice Atkinson go. It's good that UKIP will not tolerate underhand deals and potential criminal activities; unlike the Lab/Lib/Cons who hug their own malefactors to their flat and mucky bosoms.
Had you realized that we have much worse cuts to come under the Tories than those seen so far.
Of course I realised. Osborne has been completely clear on this. We need to continue getting spending down to sane levels, of course.
If Labour want to run on a platform of fiscal irresponsibility, that's fine by me. At least that would be honest.
Presumably you are covered by the triple lock so your benefits are safe?
Are you mad? Unlike you, I have no taxpayer-funded, inflation-linked pension - I'm still working and desperately trying to top up my pension pot as best I can. Of course I have little prospect of being able to afford any index-linking.
Lab could end austerity on 7/5/15 and stick within their plans according to IFS.
75% of welfare cuts fall on workers according to IFS
You seem remarkably excited by the discovery that Labour would increase borrowing, compared with Osborne. Hadn't you realised that if you borrow more you can spend more, in the short term at least?
Had you realized that we have much worse cuts to come under the Torieswhoever wins the election than those seen so far.
You expect it will be as obvious where these will fall in the manifesto as the VAT increase in 2010 was?
Fixed that for you
Not according to the IFS.
Only those parties who want to wreck the welfare state to give millionaires more tax cuts for political doctrine reasons would need to make cuts worse than already seen.
Have the chances of a UKIP win in Folkestone & Hythe just improved?
Depending on who the new candidate is, probably. I for one, am not sorry to see Janice Atkinson go. It's good that UKIP will not tolerate underhand deals and potential criminal activities; unlike the Lab/Lib/Cons who hug their own malefactors to their flat and mucky bosoms.
I must stay the attrition rate for UKIP MEPs, as well as leading Westminster candidates, is quite spectacular.
What a fine, moral party they are, so unlike those LibLabCon spivs.
At least their candidates do get attrited, and by them. You happy that Aidan Burley retains the whip, and was never deselected?
Of course most parties have the 1% or so of of unfit people. But for UKIP it usually averages >10% of UKIP MEPs lost through poor vetting.
No, no, no. You cannot run the "1%" line if you then have a committee of enquiry which concludes that the 1%er in this instance was "not a racist" and - do not read on if you have a mouthful of hot coffee - was only at fault in not showing his deep disapproval of the Nazi toast clearly enough.
Ukip is a young party with a lot of candidacies to fill and attracts a lot of nutters. The tories are in their, what, fourth century?
For the avoidance of doubt, can we have a full list of UKIP MEPs and candidates whom UKIP supporters disown? It would save time having to go through the 'not sorry to see X go' bit each time one bites the dust.
The practice of inflating expenses is quite common in other fields. The real popular one was consultants billing the full cost of hotels to their clients only to receive a rebate from the hotel chain. They did this with flights, trains, etc. These firms still do work for the public sector...
I'd argue airmiles are at least as corrupt a system. Employees deliberately select flights so as to recieve a kickback.
Robert, that works both ways. By always using one airline, even if it costs me a hundred bucks more per flight, I automatically get upgraded from economy to economy plus, thus obviating the need for business flight fares on the long trips. Saves money for the organization and gives me air miles. Some things are win win, not zero sum game.
Talking of Nicola...she's growing on me. Her complaints about sexism had the ring of truth. Apart from SeanT on here suggesting she looked like a pole dancer I hadn't heard anything. Anyway she sounded genuinely upset and I felt sorry for her
Talking of Nicola...she's growing on me. Her complaints about sexism had the ring of truth. Apart from SeanT on here suggesting she looked like a pole dancer I hadn't heard anything. Anyway she sounded genuinely upset and I felt sorry for her
Did I miss a story? Ms Sturgeon was upset by SeanT?
Lab could end austerity on 7/5/15 and stick within their plans according to IFS.
75% of welfare cuts fall on workers according to IFS
You seem remarkably excited by the discovery that Labour would increase borrowing, compared with Osborne. Hadn't you realised that if you borrow more you can spend more, in the short term at least?
Had you realized that we have much worse cuts to come under the Torieswhoever wins the election than those seen so far.
You expect it will be as obvious where these will fall in the manifesto as the VAT increase in 2010 was?
Fixed that for you
Not according to the IFS.
Only those parties who want to wreck the welfare state to give millionaires more tax cuts for political doctrine reasons would need to make cuts worse than already seen.
The Conservatives will choose to cut. The others would be compelled to cut far more heavily against their will by the IMF etc. within 30 months of taking power.
UK National Debt is 1.5 Trillion pounds
At 2-3% interest that is £30-45 billion pounds a year interest payments
If the markets lose confidence then that interest rate goes up to 5 or 7% which means £75-105 Billion a year in interest.
Sorry but Browns profiligacy ensured a national debt which means the moneymen have the government by the balls whoever is in power, even if it were Balls.
Had you realized that we have much worse cuts to come under the Tories than those seen so far.
Of course I realised. Osborne has been completely clear on this. We need to continue getting spending down to sane levels, of course.
If Labour want to run on a platform of fiscal irresponsibility, that's fine by me. At least that would be honest.
Presumably you are covered by the triple lock so your benefits are safe?
Are you mad? Unlike you, I have no taxpayer-funded, inflation-linked pension - I'm still working and desperately trying to top up my pension pot as best I can. Of course I have little prospect of being able to afford any index-linking.
And to think the blues complain about the politics of envy.
Lab could end austerity on 7/5/15 and stick within their plans according to IFS.
I don't understand how they've come to this conclusion? The deficit is still rather big. If Labour are going to continue to (foolishly) pledge to balance the books, then I don't understand how significant cuts (or tax rises) would be avoided?
But in any case, I hope it's right, and Labour wake up and run simply on a straightforward "Stop the Cuts" ticket. It would be rather negative, but atleast it would give them some focus and put in voters' minds a clear reason why they should vote Labour, a damn improvement on the recent weeks' of drift and no clear message of why someone should vote Labour atall.
Lab could end austerity on 7/5/15 and stick within their plans according to IFS.
75% of welfare cuts fall on workers according to IFS
You seem remarkably excited by the discovery that Labour would increase borrowing, compared with Osborne. Hadn't you realised that if you borrow more you can spend more, in the short term at least?
Had you realized that we have much worse cuts to come under the Torieswhoever wins the election than those seen so far.
You expect it will be as obvious where these will fall in the manifesto as the VAT increase in 2010 was?
Fixed that for you
Not according to the IFS.
Only those parties who want to wreck the welfare state to give millionaires more tax cuts for political doctrine reasons would need to make cuts worse than already seen.
Would that be those tax cuts that are now set 5% higher than all but 39 days of Labours 13 year tenure?
At least their candidates do get attrited, and by them. You happy that Aidan Burley retains the whip, and was never deselected?
He went to a stag party dressed in a silly costume and behaved very badly. Reprehensible for someone in his position, but not quite comparable with fraud, is it? And he's not standing as a candidate.
If we are doing moral calculus, one restaurant bill is hardly doing a Lord Taylor of Warwick either. And Atkinson isn't standing as a candidate now either, so I don't see your point there.
Lab could end austerity on 7/5/15 and stick within their plans according to IFS.
75% of welfare cuts fall on workers according to IFS
You seem remarkably excited by the discovery that Labour would increase borrowing, compared with Osborne. Hadn't you realised that if you borrow more you can spend more, in the short term at least?
Had you realized that we have much worse cuts to come under the Torieswhoever wins the election than those seen so far.
You expect it will be as obvious where these will fall in the manifesto as the VAT increase in 2010 was?
Fixed that for you
Not according to the IFS.
Only those parties who want to wreck the welfare state to give millionaires more tax cuts for political doctrine reasons would need to make cuts worse than already seen.
The conservatives will choose to cut. The others would be compelled to cut against their will by the IMF within 30 months of taking power.
No need for IMF
IFS think Lab plans prudent Tory plans vicious dont they?
Just the opposite. The facts changed. Instead of doing what Labour or Tory do and try and argue black is white, the SNP have just accepted the numbers, adjusted their outlook and moved on.
Hence : -
New full-scale Scottish poll from Survation -
SNP 47.1% Labour 28.0% Conservatives 14.5% Liberal Democrats 4.0% UKIP 3.4% Greens 2.3%
The SNP gave a range of figures based on what they perceived. Their perceptions were wrong. ie ''admit for the first time that the SNP had got its independence predictions for North Sea oil wrong'' The facts did not change. Here is a fact ''the growing shortfall in Scotland’s finances is the equivalent of a 17p hike in income tax.'' and anotherone ''Two years ago, the OBR predicted that oil would generate £4.4 billion in 2017/18 but the Scottish Government insisted revenues would be as high as £11.8 billion.''
If we are doing moral calculus, one restaurant bill is hardly doing a Lord Taylor of Warwick either. And Atkinson isn't standing as a candidate now either, so I don't see your point there.
No, you don't see the point.
I don't know what the facts of the case are, of course, but the allegation made by the Sun against Ms Atkinson, appears to be such that, if it were true, it would be attempted fraud and thus a criminal offence. Of course there may be a perfectly innocent explanation, but UKIP's own statement is pretty strong.
"For the avoidance of doubt, can we have a full list of UKIP MEPs and candidates whom UKIP supporters disown? It would save time having to go through the 'not sorry to see X go' bit each time one bites the dust."
Excellent suggestion. Perhaps to save time they could just post the name of the person they would be sorry to lose
Just the opposite. The facts changed. Instead of doing what Labour or Tory do and try and argue black is white, the SNP have just accepted the numbers, adjusted their outlook and moved on.
Hence : -
New full-scale Scottish poll from Survation -
SNP 47.1% Labour 28.0% Conservatives 14.5% Liberal Democrats 4.0% UKIP 3.4% Greens 2.3%
The SNP gave a range of figures based on what they perceived. Their perceptions were wrong. ie ''admit for the first time that the SNP had got its independence predictions for North Sea oil wrong'' The facts did not change. Here is a fact ''the growing shortfall in Scotland’s finances is the equivalent of a 17p hike in income tax.'' and anotherone ''Two years ago, the OBR predicted that oil would generate £4.4 billion in 2017/18 but the Scottish Government insisted revenues would be as high as £11.8 billion.''
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I think it was basically a large dog whistle, saying if we win things will carry on much the way they are but if you are daft enough to vote for Dwayne Dibley heaven knows what might happen.
No shortage of volunteers.
@rowenamason: Ukip Janice Atkinson suspension appears to be related to a story due to be published in the Sun
Oh
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/23/qatar-nepal-workers-world-cup-2022-death-toll-doha
The last constituency poll (conducted many years ago) there was:
CON 35, UKIP 28, LAB 21, LD 10
Looks like Ms Atkinson has been filmed asking a restaurant to inflate a bill to claim back on expenses.
However the first ones to show up to the selection battle will probably be the Hamiltons again.
Anyway my reason for posting is to say that all those who think of Liverpool as it used to be.... well its changed. Its really vibrant and noisy. Full of galleries restaurants and wide boulevard streets. A cross between Covent Garden and Nice. You're still can't escape the Beatles and Gerry and the Pacemakers but nontheless well worth a visit
Nahh, they all moved to London and got jobs in finance.
More money, and no chance of prison.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/SNP/11483905/Nicola-Sturgeon-admits-independence-oil-figures-were-wrong.html
TUD Ultimataly it is Islamists who will have to beat ISIS and the Taliban, whether the Iraqi and Afghan and Pakistani armies, the Kurds, Assad and Iran
New full-scale Scottish poll from Survation -
SNP 47%
Labour 28%'
On the site that can't be linked to.
I can fully understand why someone who is poor or middle class trying to get their hands on more money by shady schemes like those, however someone with a large salary has no reason to do it.
Does it make sense, or rather is it believable, for any member of any parliament to ask a member of the public to inflate a bill to fake expenses??
Guido understands Atkinson racked up a bill at a restaurant, then allegedly returned at a later date and was filmed haggling with staff to increase the bill so she could claim it on her expenses.
If true how stupid could she be?
http://order-order.com/2015/03/19/ukip-suspend-janice-atkinson/
Big boost for Ed
IFS say lowest paid hardest hit by tax and benefit changes under coalition.
OBR says immigrants are the main reason for the recovery of the economy
What a fine, moral party they are, so unlike those LibLabCon spivs.
Hence : -
New full-scale Scottish poll from Survation -
SNP 47.1%
Labour 28.0%
Conservatives 14.5%
Liberal Democrats 4.0%
UKIP 3.4%
Greens 2.3%
75% of welfare cuts fall on workers according to IFS
While I think Gideons recovery is to an extent a debt fuelled bubble, its pretty obvious that another term of Labour being compassionate with other peoples money would bring the economy to ruin.
@GuidoFawkes: It was the Sun wot done for Janice Atkinson: story here >> http://t.co/pmDjPggUFa
Acccusations of Expense Fiddling
http://order-order.com/2015/03/19/ukip-suspend-janice-atkinson/
Accusations of Racism
http://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/news/11868250.Ukip_candidate_resigns__Jonathan_Stanley_leaves_party__citing__open_racism_and_bullying_/?ref=twtrec
"Roger.. are all the thieves still there.."
Not obvious. Its changed. A real trendy city. Nothing like the place you and your girl with the beehive used to frequent in the 60's
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0eph2WA201rodtd1o1_1280.jpg
maybe they should ascend to the moral heights of the SNP
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/snp-suspends-member-over-ruth-davidson-abuse-1-3722396
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31871532
You expect it will be as obvious where these will fall in the manifesto as the VAT increase in 2010 was?
If Labour want to run on a platform of fiscal irresponsibility, that's fine by me. At least that would be honest.
http://www.iaindale.com/posts/2013/08/23/conservativehome-diary-week-19-the-perils-of-appearing-on-any-questions
Only those parties who want to wreck the welfare state to give millionaires more tax cuts for political doctrine reasons would need to make cuts worse than already seen.
Ukip is a young party with a lot of candidacies to fill and attracts a lot of nutters. The tories are in their, what, fourth century?
Neil Hamilton gets a chance at last...?
UK National Debt is 1.5 Trillion pounds
At 2-3% interest that is £30-45 billion pounds a year interest payments
If the markets lose confidence then that interest rate goes up to 5 or 7% which means £75-105 Billion a year in interest.
Sorry but Browns profiligacy ensured a national debt which means the moneymen have the government by the balls whoever is in power, even if it were Balls.
But in any case, I hope it's right, and Labour wake up and run simply on a straightforward "Stop the Cuts" ticket. It would be rather negative, but atleast it would give them some focus and put in voters' minds a clear reason why they should vote Labour, a damn improvement on the recent weeks' of drift and no clear message of why someone should vote Labour atall.
An odious piece of gristle in the bean stew of the conservative party is a prime ingredient on UKIP's plate.
IFS think Lab plans prudent Tory plans vicious dont they?
ie
''admit for the first time that the SNP had got its independence predictions for North Sea oil wrong''
The facts did not change.
Here is a fact
''the growing shortfall in Scotland’s finances is the equivalent of a 17p hike in income tax.''
and anotherone
''Two years ago, the OBR predicted that oil would generate £4.4 billion in 2017/18 but the Scottish Government insisted revenues would be as high as £11.8 billion.''
''In an attempt to repair the damage, the pair yesterday published revised figures that estimate oil will generate between £10.2 billion and £25.8 billion more over the next five years than the latest estimates by the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR).''
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/9922636/Alex-Salmond-plucks-26-billion-of-oil-out-of-thin-air.html
I don't know what the facts of the case are, of course, but the allegation made by the Sun against Ms Atkinson, appears to be such that, if it were true, it would be attempted fraud and thus a criminal offence. Of course there may be a perfectly innocent explanation, but UKIP's own statement is pretty strong.
"For the avoidance of doubt, can we have a full list of UKIP MEPs and candidates whom UKIP supporters disown? It would save time having to go through the 'not sorry to see X go' bit each time one bites the dust."
Excellent suggestion. Perhaps to save time they could just post the name of the person they would be sorry to lose
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/19/george-osborne-cuts-30bn-eliminate-deficit-2019-welfare-squeeze