"We've certainly seen a reverse ferret from Nigel Farage during the course of the day. In the interview with Trevor Phillips he was quite clear - asked if he thought there was a need for a law against discrimination on the grounds of nationality, race, colour, Mr Farage said 'No'. Today, though, he is making it quite clear that he thinks there's no need to fiddle with the rules around discrimination - but he does think there is a need to make it possible for employers to hire on the basis of nationality. It is a retreat from this interview... And that's provoked a huge political backlash from his opponents."
@Ishmael_X Farage says no need to fiddle around with the laws on discrimination. I think you should ask him if there's no need to fiddle around with the law which caused industrial scale racist sexual exploitation of children. And do it in a way that implies he must support the exploitation otherwise.
I don't understand the question. You could ask him yourself, perhaps?
Why would I ask? I don't try to insinuate that anyone who advocates not changing the race relations laws must therefore support all the effects they've had.
EdM being questioned tonight BBC3 8pm He faces 100 voters aged 16-34.
Operation Humanize Ed Part 2....I presume he will be doing Loose Women, This Morning etc shortly.
I wonder if Dave will run away from these kind of opportunities as well?
Let's hope he does better than Gordon if asked what his favourite biscuit is. For my part, I voted LD because Clegg's answer matched my own exactly, namely "Rich Tea “when dunked” in tea and Hob Nobs “when not dunked""
Farage's Leader rating boost is outside the MoE.....
Mind you the UKIP score is up too.
I think the UKIP score is really a reversion to the mean. It is starting to look (and this surprises me) as if the UKIP figure won't be much squeezed as the election approaches.
You do spout a load of rubbish, Charles, though not always of course. But in this case, yes.
We have a broken voting system, which you Tories insisted in keeping when we had the chance to replace it.
It is a characteristic of the English that, when something does not work, we do something practical about it. And finally the law catches up.
Your lot need to change the rules so that people´s votes really do start to count. Mine never does. I always get a stupid Tory MP.
Well, "we Tories" insisted on giving the people a say. Admittedly it was a forced choice between two flawed systems, but the decision was resoundingly in favour of the current approach.
I agree that FPTP doesn't work. So campaign for change. Get MPs elected to Parliament. Ensure a popular upsurge and demand for a new system.
But don't, in your arrogance, take away someone else's right to choose their local representative according to the rules that currently exist. Because that is what you are doing.
Just looked back at the previous threads. I agree, vote trading shouldn't be acceptable.
If people are betting on a seat then shouldn't vote trading be declared somehow? Punters take their bets on their own heads of course but the whole point of vote trading is to influence the result.
I think you should get sacked for behaviour like that.
I can see how being a star TV presenter would complicate that though.
Outside the public sector or very large corporations with process based HR, it is IMHO something that gets you fired if they would be glad to see the back of you or need to shed staff. Otherwise it tends to get sorted out unless the matter is so serious that Knacker gets involved.
I think in an organisation of any size you want to encourage professional problem-solving behaviour.
I quite like the Disneyland notion of being 'on stage' at work, (although Disneyland's work culture is reported to be poisonous!)
Farage's Leader rating boost is outside the MoE.....
Mind you the UKIP score is up too.
I think the UKIP score is really a reversion to the mean. It is starting to look (and this surprises me) as if the UKIP figure won't be much squeezed as the election approaches.
There's a reason Dave's ratings are almost godlike amongst Conservative voters.
Yeah this isn't his story though it's just something he had passed on
Apparently Clarkson said 'where's our food you f- ing lazy Irish Cnut' to the producer before the punch
Provided the producer was Irish and could be shown to have been lazy in not organising food, I can't see any problem.
The sort of everyday language used at work around the country.
Arguments at work can end up with a punch ot two. I can recall an argument at a board meeting of the UK's biggest exporter when the overseas sales director and the distribution director disagreed over who was responsible for missing export targets. It ended in a punch up but they stepped outside the board room to do it. The next day they carried on working together, no problem and no one was bothered. In fact the fight meant they had respect for each other and that they really caried about the business.
You seem to be struggling with the concept that assaulting a colleague might be something your employer could take a dim view of. It's not really that difficult a concept to grasp.
It is quite possible to take a very dim view of it but not to suspend Clarkson, thereby creating other victims by making the production unit redundant and closing the most popular export earning of the BBC.
EdM being questioned tonight BBC3 8pm He faces 100 voters aged 16-34.
Operation Humanize Ed Part 2....I presume he will be doing Loose Women, This Morning etc shortly.
I wonder if Dave will run away from these kind of opportunities as well?
Let's hope he does better than Gordon if asked what his favourite biscuit is. For my part, I voted LD because Clegg's answer matched my own exactly, namely "Rich Tea “when dunked” in tea and Hob Nobs “when not dunked""
Milk chocolate Hob Nobs are one of the truly great inventions.
EdM being questioned tonight BBC3 8pm He faces 100 voters aged 16-34.
Operation Humanize Ed Part 2....I presume he will be doing Loose Women, This Morning etc shortly.
I wonder if Dave will run away from these kind of opportunities as well?
Let's hope he does better than Gordon if asked what his favourite biscuit is. For my part, I voted LD because Clegg's answer matched my own exactly, namely "Rich Tea “when dunked” in tea and Hob Nobs “when not dunked""
Yeah this isn't his story though it's just something he had passed on
Apparently Clarkson said 'where's our food you f- ing lazy Irish Cnut' to the producer before the punch
Provided the producer was Irish and could be shown to have been lazy in not organising food, I can't see any problem.
The sort of everyday language used at work around the country.
Arguments at work can end up with a punch ot two. I can recall an argument at a board meeting of the UK's biggest exporter when the overseas sales director and the distribution director disagreed over who was responsible for missing export targets. It ended in a punch up but they stepped outside the board room to do it. The next day they carried on working together, no problem and no one was bothered. In fact the fight meant they had respect for each other and that they really caried about the business.
You seem to be struggling with the concept that assaulting a colleague might be something your employer could take a dim view of. It's not really that difficult a concept to grasp.
Are you sure Jeremy Clarkson and the Top Gear producer are both employees of the BBC?
I liked the Watch series - and Moist Von Lipwick - as the series settled down to something more like alternate reality rather than high fantasy. But the wizards were always there.
Yeah this isn't his story though it's just something he had passed on
Apparently Clarkson said 'where's our food you f- ing lazy Irish Cnut' to the producer before the punch
Provided the producer was Irish and could be shown to have been lazy in not organising food, I can't see any problem.
The sort of everyday language used at work around the country.
Arguments at work can end up with a punch ot two. I can recall an argument at a board meeting of the UK's biggest exporter when the overseas sales director and the distribution director disagreed over who was responsible for missing export targets. It ended in a punch up but they stepped outside the board room to do it. The next day they carried on working together, no problem and no one was bothered. In fact the fight meant they had respect for each other and that they really caried about the business.
You seem to be struggling with the concept that assaulting a colleague might be something your employer could take a dim view of. It's not really that difficult a concept to grasp.
Are you sure Jeremy Clarkson and the Top Gear producer are both employees of the BBC?
Yeah this isn't his story though it's just something he had passed on
Apparently Clarkson said 'where's our food you f- ing lazy Irish Cnut' to the producer before the punch
Provided the producer was Irish and could be shown to have been lazy in not organising food, I can't see any problem.
The sort of everyday language used at work around the country.
Arguments at work can end up with a punch ot two. I can recall an argument at a board meeting of the UK's biggest exporter when the overseas sales director and the distribution director disagreed over who was responsible for missing export targets. It ended in a punch up but they stepped outside the board room to do it. The next day they carried on working together, no problem and no one was bothered. In fact the fight meant they had respect for each other and that they really caried about the business.
You seem to be struggling with the concept that assaulting a colleague might be something your employer could take a dim view of. It's not really that difficult a concept to grasp.
Are you sure Jeremy Clarkson and the Top Gear producer are both employees of the BBC?
Pretty sure they are, Jezza sold his stake in Top Gear back to the Beeb a while ago I think
Yeah this isn't his story though it's just something he had passed on
Apparently Clarkson said 'where's our food you f- ing lazy Irish Cnut' to the producer before the punch
Provided the producer was Irish and could be shown to have been lazy in not organising food, I can't see any problem.
The sort of everyday language used at work around the country.
Arguments at work can end up with a punch ot two. I can recall an argument at a board meeting of the UK's biggest exporter when the overseas sales director and the distribution director disagreed over who was responsible for missing export targets. It ended in a punch up but they stepped outside the board room to do it. The next day they carried on working together, no problem and no one was bothered. In fact the fight meant they had respect for each other and that they really caried about the business.
You seem to be struggling with the concept that assaulting a colleague might be something your employer could take a dim view of. It's not really that difficult a concept to grasp.
Are you sure Jeremy Clarkson and the Top Gear producer are both employees of the BBC?
IIRC Clarkson sold his share of the show to the BBC in 2012 and in return received a multi million pound contract. As such it would seem the BBC are his employer rather than his client.
Top Gear: Jeremy Clarkson netted more than £14m from show last year Presenter received £4.8m dividend and £8.4m share buyout from BBC Worldwide, plus his presenter's salary of nearly £1m
'Ashcroft & ICM link back to 2010 vote but dilute it to take account of false recall. That is their primary means of political weighting. Are you saying that they might as well make it up?'
What I do find strange is we get told the Lib Dems have done private polling that shows they are 'competitive' in seats like Solihull,two weeks later the data still isn't published and then Survation who apparently carried out the poll,but without any input on the questions, then appear to distance themselves from it.
Yeah this isn't his story though it's just something he had passed on
Apparently Clarkson said 'where's our food you f- ing lazy Irish Cnut' to the producer before the punch
Provided the producer was Irish and could be shown to have been lazy in not organising food, I can't see any problem.
The sort of everyday language used at work around the country.
Arguments at work can end up with a punch ot two. I can recall an argument at a board meeting of the UK's biggest exporter when the overseas sales director and the distribution director disagreed over who was responsible for missing export targets. It ended in a punch up but they stepped outside the board room to do it. The next day they carried on working together, no problem and no one was bothered. In fact the fight meant they had respect for each other and that they really caried about the business.
You seem to be struggling with the concept that assaulting a colleague might be something your employer could take a dim view of. It's not really that difficult a concept to grasp.
Are you sure Jeremy Clarkson and the Top Gear producer are both employees of the BBC?
IIRC Clarkson sold his share of the show to the BBC in 2012 and in return received a multi million pound contract. As such it would seem the BBC are his employer rather than his client.
Top Gear: Jeremy Clarkson netted more than £14m from show last year Presenter received £4.8m dividend and £8.4m share buyout from BBC Worldwide, plus his presenter's salary of nearly £1m
Politics can go hang today. The passing of Sir Terry Pratchett is one of the saddest events of recent times for me.
Rest in peace and thanks for giving me more enjoyment and enlightenment than any other author of modern times.
Agreed. I can think of no other author who I have read so much and so consistently for almost 20 years now, and one who has at various times made me both laugh and think in a way far too many 'serious' works fail to do even the latter.
I often read by chapters... which was something of a drawback when I tried doing it with the first book of his I read.
The Moist von Lipwig series are your friend there, those have proper chapters.
A good comic writer as I said below (4:47pm), but by no means the best fantasy writer. Not a touch on GRR Martin, Tolkien, Robert Jordan, Brandon Sanderson, Tad Williams and Steven Erikson, to name just a few.
Yeah this isn't his story though it's just something he had passed on
Apparently Clarkson said 'where's our food you f- ing lazy Irish Cnut' to the producer before the punch
Provided the producer was Irish and could be shown to have been lazy in not organising food, I can't see any problem.
The sort of everyday language used at work around the country.
Arguments at work can end up with a punch ot two. I can recall an argument at a board meeting of the UK's biggest exporter when the overseas sales director and the distribution director disagreed over who was responsible for missing export targets. It ended in a punch up but they stepped outside the board room to do it. The next day they carried on working together, no problem and no one was bothered. In fact the fight meant they had respect for each other and that they really caried about the business.
You seem to be struggling with the concept that assaulting a colleague might be something your employer could take a dim view of. It's not really that difficult a concept to grasp.
Why, you can barely go three feet in a proper workplace without being assaulted, it's child's play. Any words to the contrary are leftist conspiracies.
As anotherdave says, it's merely the fact of him being a tv presenter, that is a big star, that is complicating matters, if indeed things happened as we hear. There's no way the BBC want to fire such a money spinner for them no matter what he did, but sometimes your hand is forced.
Liverpool didn't want to sell Suarez either I'd bet, but another biting incident had been set as a red line, unfortunately for them.
Although there was a view that long before the last incident that a deal in principle had been done between Barca and Saurez if not Liverpool. Some even believe that that last biting incident was a ruse to force Saurez's price down or / and force Liverpool's hand (and help Barca's FFP woes).
'Ashcroft & ICM link back to 2010 vote but dilute it to take account of false recall. That is their primary means of political weighting. Are you saying that they might as well make it up?'
What I do find strange is we get told the Lib Dems have done private polling that shows they are 'competitive' in seats like Solihull,two weeks later the data still isn't published and then Survation who apparently carried out the poll,but without any input on the questions, then appear to distance themselves from it.
EdM being questioned tonight BBC3 8pm He faces 100 voters aged 16-34.
Operation Humanize Ed Part 2....I presume he will be doing Loose Women, This Morning etc shortly.
I wonder if Dave will run away from these kind of opportunities as well?
Let's hope he does better than Gordon if asked what his favourite biscuit is. For my part, I voted LD because Clegg's answer matched my own exactly, namely "Rich Tea “when dunked” in tea and Hob Nobs “when not dunked""
Milk chocolate Hob Nobs are one of the truly great inventions.
I MUST SAY THESE ARE VERY GOOD BISCUITS. HOW DO THEY GET THE BITS OF CHOCOLATE IN?
No, I said that either you deny the offences took place or you deny that they were facilitated by the race relations legislation. You need to brush up on your Boolean operators.
It may be perfectly possible to believe what you believe, but the fact remains that the current legislation acted as a de facto exemption from the law for one particular race. Are you happy with that situation? Or do you think we should tell ourselves that it is absolutely fine, because that is not the effect the statute was intended to have?
I do not deny the offences took place. Nor do I deny the attitudes behind why they were overlooked. I have been - from memory - rather more vigorous than you in criticising those attitudes.
The reasons why such attitudes developed and took root are rather more complex than you seem to allow. The fact that some people have - wrongly - shouted "racism" in order to try and avoid scrutiny does not mean that we should not continue to deal sensibly with genuine discrimination on irrelevant grounds when it occurs.
The fact that so many people have cheered the idea of getting rid of anti-discrimination laws suggests to me that some of them, anyway, are quite indifferent to the harm that such discrimination causes, both to individuals and wider society. Using child rape as the justification for why the removal of anti-discrimination laws is necessary is pretty low, frankly. We will end up dealing with neither problem properly.
Why is it "pretty low, frankly", if the anti-discrimination laws facilitate large-scale child-rape, as seems to be accepted in two highly authoritative reports into the affair? Like saying that "Using lung cancer as the justification for why the introduction of plain packaging is necessary is pretty low, frankly." You seem to think that legislation is incapable of being damaging, if it is well-intended.
Re your last sentence: I don't think that at all. I am well aware of the law of unintended consequences and wished Parliament legislated less but better.
The two reports did not say that anti-discrimination legislation facilitated the rapes. They said that there were a range of attitudes, amongst which a desire not to criticise certain communities was one, which created the climate in which these rapes happened and were not dealt with.
There may well be a need to deal with the unintended consequences of anti-discrimination legislation but it seems to me a tad worrying that so many people are so keen to want to be able to discriminate against fellow citizens or so oblivious to the harm that can result from such discrimination.
Why is the lower figure of 34% given instead of the 36%, the higher figure being the responses of those polled. Why all the emphasis on 'certainty to vote' all of a sudden? Labour is on 36% in this poll!
Yeah this isn't his story though it's just something he had passed on
Apparently Clarkson said 'where's our food you f- ing lazy Irish Cnut' to the producer before the punch
Provided the producer was Irish and could be shown to have been lazy in not organising food, I can't see any problem.
The sort of everyday language used at work around the country.
Arguments at work can end up with a punch ot two. I can recall an argument at a board meeting of the UK's biggest exporter when the overseas sales director and the distribution director disagreed over who was responsible for missing export targets. It ended in a punch up but they stepped outside the board room to do it. The next day they carried on working together, no problem and no one was bothered. In fact the fight meant they had respect for each other and that they really caried about the business.
You seem to be struggling with the concept that assaulting a colleague might be something your employer could take a dim view of. It's not really that difficult a concept to grasp.
It is quite possible to take a very dim view of it but not to suspend Clarkson, thereby creating other victims by making the production unit redundant and closing the most popular export earning of the BBC.
What other behaviour do you think Clarkson should be allowed to get away with in the name of the greater good? Eating the producer's first born son?
Why is the lower figure of 34% given instead of the 36%, the higher figure being the responses of those polled. Why all the emphasis on 'certainty to vote' all of a sudden? Labour is on 36% in this poll!
Why is the lower figure of 34% given instead of the 36%, the higher figure being the responses of those polled. Why all the emphasis on 'certainty to vote' all of a sudden? Labour is on 36% in this poll!
It isn't all of a sudden, with MORI the certain to vote figures are the top line results. The other figure includes those that say they won't (or are very unlikely to) vote.
Why is the lower figure of 34% given instead of the 36%, the higher figure being the responses of those polled. Why all the emphasis on 'certainty to vote' all of a sudden? Labour is on 36% in this poll!
Ipsos MORI always have certainty to vote figures. Those are the figures I and my fellow Wikipedians enter in the table here:
» show previous quotes Provided the producer was Irish and could be shown to have been lazy in not organising food, I can't see any problem.
The sort of everyday language used at work around the country.
Arguments at work can end up with a punch ot two. I can recall an argument at a board meeting of the UK's biggest exporter when the overseas sales director and the distribution director disagreed over who was responsible for missing export targets. It ended in a punch up but they stepped outside the board room to do it. The next day they carried on working together, no problem and no one was bothered. In fact the fight meant they had respect for each other and that they really caried about the business. "
From a site that occasionaly hosted Tapestry this has to be one of the most barking mad posts I've read. This is the BBC not a Chinese take-away. No wonder Saville survived for long. They probably had someone like you in HR
Mr. kle4, single volumes occurring in a single world, with characters and places revisited, is what I like best of all. You get the best of both worlds [from both a writing and reading perspective].
That said, certain stories do demand greater length [hence why my WIP is part one of a trilogy].
That's nuts. No way is it a two in three chance from this point that the Conservatives will get most seats. It's not even clear that the Conservatives are in the lead (cf this poll).
Why is the lower figure of 34% given instead of the 36%, the higher figure being the responses of those polled. Why all the emphasis on 'certainty to vote' all of a sudden? Labour is on 36% in this poll!
Ipsos MORI always have certainty to vote figures. Those are the figures I and my fellow Wikipedians enter in the table here:
I agree that FPTP doesn't work. So campaign for change. Get MPs elected to Parliament. Ensure a popular upsurge and demand for a new system. But don't, in your arrogance, take away someone else's right to choose their local representative according to the rules that currently exist. Because that is what you are doing.
Not arrogance at all, Charles. The worms are turning, because we are tired of having useless Tory MPs imposed on us, who then speak and vote completely against our interests; and yet have the gall to boast that they represent all their constituents.
I am glad to see you speaking out against FPTP, Charles - and I did recognise that you do talk good sense some of the time.....
But if you have a corrupt and broken electoral system, which neither Labour nor the Tories are prepared to improve (out of self-interest, of course), then we have to do what we can to bring about a change - within the law, of course.
So the Tories can either use authoritarian means to clamp down on vote-swapping. Or they can work with others to bring about a voting system where most votes help to get somebody elected.
Why is the lower figure of 34% given instead of the 36%, the higher figure being the responses of those polled. Why all the emphasis on 'certainty to vote' all of a sudden? Labour is on 36% in this poll!
Ipsos MORI always have certainty to vote figures. Those are the figures I and my fellow Wikipedians enter in the table here:
No, I said that either you deny the offences took place or you deny that they were facilitated by the race relations legislation. You need to brush up on your Boolean operators.
It may be perfectly possible to believe what you believe, but the fact remains that the current legislation acted as a de facto exemption from the law for one particular race. Are you happy with that situation? Or do you think we should tell ourselves that it is absolutely fine, because that is not the effect the statute was intended to have?
I do not deny the offences took place. Nor do I deny the attitudes behind why they were overlooked. I have been - from memory - rather more vigorous than you in criticising those attitudes.
The reasons why such attitudes developed and took root are rather more complex than you seem to allow.
The fact that so many people have cheered the idea of getting rid of anti-discrimination laws suggests to me that some of them, anyway, are quite indifferent to the harm that such discrimination causes, both to individuals and wider society. Using child rape as the justification for why the removal of anti-discrimination laws is necessary is pretty low, frankly. We will end up dealing with neither problem properly.
Why is it "pretty low, frankly", if the anti-discrimination laws facilitate large-scale child-rape, as seems to be accepted in two highly authoritative reports into the affair? Like saying that "Using lung cancer as the justification for why the introduction of plain packaging is necessary is pretty low, frankly." You seem to think that legislation is incapable of being damaging, if it is well-intended.
Re your last sentence: I don't think that at all. I am well aware of the law of unintended consequences and wished Parliament legislated less but better.
The two reports did not say that anti-discrimination legislation facilitated the rapes. They said that there were a range of attitudes, amongst which a desire not to criticise certain communities was one, which created the climate in which these rapes happened and were not dealt with.
There may well be a need to deal with the unintended consequences of anti-discrimination legislation but it seems to me a tad worrying that so many people are so keen to want to be able to discriminate against fellow citizens or so oblivious to the harm that can result from such discrimination.
Your middle paragraph makes the most impossibly fine distinction I have ever seen in print. Otherwise, I don't think we really disagree very much.
Why is the lower figure of 34% given instead of the 36%, the higher figure being the responses of those polled. Why all the emphasis on 'certainty to vote' all of a sudden? Labour is on 36% in this poll!
Ipsos MORI always have certainty to vote figures. Those are the figures I and my fellow Wikipedians enter in the table here:
Yeah this isn't his story though it's just something he had passed on
Apparently Clarkson said 'where's our food you f- ing lazy Irish Cnut' to the producer before the punch
Provided the producer was Irish and could be shown to have been lazy in not organising food, I can't see any problem.
The sort of everyday language used at work around the country.
Arguments at work can end up with a punch ot two. I can recall an argument at a board meeting of the UK's biggest exporter when the overseas sales director and the distribution director disagreed over who was responsible for missing export targets. It ended in a punch up but they stepped outside the board room to do it. The next day they carried on working together, no problem and no one was bothered. In fact the fight meant they had respect for each other and that they really caried about the business.
You seem to be struggling with the concept that assaulting a colleague might be something your employer could take a dim view of. It's not really that difficult a concept to grasp.
It is quite possible to take a very dim view of it but not to suspend Clarkson, thereby creating other victims by making the production unit redundant and closing the most popular export earning of the BBC.
What other behaviour do you think Clarkson should be allowed to get away with in the name of the greater good? Eating the producer's first born son?
Banter about "slopes" (not to be confused with racism, no, sirree).
Why is the lower figure of 34% given instead of the 36%, the higher figure being the responses of those polled. Why all the emphasis on 'certainty to vote' all of a sudden? Labour is on 36% in this poll!
Ipsos MORI always have certainty to vote figures. Those are the figures I and my fellow Wikipedians enter in the table here:
Why is the lower figure of 34% given instead of the 36%, the higher figure being the responses of those polled. Why all the emphasis on 'certainty to vote' all of a sudden? Labour is on 36% in this poll!
Ipsos MORI always have certainty to vote figures. Those are the figures I and my fellow Wikipedians enter in the table here:
Why is the lower figure of 34% given instead of the 36%, the higher figure being the responses of those polled. Why all the emphasis on 'certainty to vote' all of a sudden? Labour is on 36% in this poll!
Ipsos MORI always have certainty to vote figures. Those are the figures I and my fellow Wikipedians enter in the table here:
Why is the lower figure of 34% given instead of the 36%, the higher figure being the responses of those polled. Why all the emphasis on 'certainty to vote' all of a sudden? Labour is on 36% in this poll!
Ipsos MORI always have certainty to vote figures. Those are the figures I and my fellow Wikipedians enter in the table here:
Why is the lower figure of 34% given instead of the 36%, the higher figure being the responses of those polled. Why all the emphasis on 'certainty to vote' all of a sudden? Labour is on 36% in this poll!
Ipsos MORI always have certainty to vote figures. Those are the figures I and my fellow Wikipedians enter in the table here:
Is this about the rather bitchy article in the Mail by Mrs Gove about Ms Miliband's kitchen?
Sort of. The kitchen Ed and Justine were pictured in for their touchy feely "aren't we a nice family" piece created some speculation in the media for being awfully small and somewhat soul-less.
Turns out that is not the family kitchen of their home, it's their "second kitchen"
Is this about the rather bitchy article in the Mail by Mrs Gove about Ms Miliband's kitchen?
Sort of. The kitchen Ed and Justine were pictured in for their touchy feely "aren't we a nice family" piece created some speculation in the media for being awfully small and somewhat soul-less.
Turns out that is not the family kitchen of their home, it's their "second kitchen"
Arhhhhh....I see....is the kitchen for the staff? It looks very much like the kitchen for a lodger / nanny.
I thought Ed wasn't into spin etc...he was a straight kinda of guy?
Is this about the rather bitchy article in the Mail by Mrs Gove about Ms Miliband's kitchen?
Sort of. The kitchen Ed and Justine were pictured in for their touchy feely "aren't we a nice family" piece created some speculation in the media for being awfully small and somewhat soul-less.
Turns out that is not the family kitchen of their home, it's their "second kitchen"
It's the kind of thing you could imagine tim wittering on about for days if it were Cameron.
That would be incredibly boring and pointless too of course.
Is this about the rather bitchy article in the Mail by Mrs Gove about Ms Miliband's kitchen?
Sort of. The kitchen Ed and Justine were pictured in for their touchy feely "aren't we a nice family" piece created some speculation in the media for being awfully small and somewhat soul-less.
Turns out that is not the family kitchen of their home, it's their "second kitchen"
It's the kind of thing you could imagine tim wittering on about for days if it were Cameron.
That would be incredibly boring and pointless too of course.
Funny you should say that....already making potentially libelous statements on twitter.
Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 2m2 minutes ago New Scottish poll - YouGov for Times - due out at 10pm. Will things still be as dire for Labour? At start of Feb YouGov had SNP 21% ahead
Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 27s28 seconds ago Extraordinarily, given its importance on May 7th, there've only been 7 published all Scotland polls since start of the year.
Is this about the rather bitchy article in the Mail by Mrs Gove about Ms Miliband's kitchen?
Sort of. The kitchen Ed and Justine were pictured in for their touchy feely "aren't we a nice family" piece created some speculation in the media for being awfully small and somewhat soul-less.
Turns out that is not the family kitchen of their home, it's their "second kitchen"
It's the kind of thing you could imagine tim wittering on about for days if it were Cameron.
That would be incredibly boring and pointless too of course.
Funny you should say that....already making potentially libelous statements on twitter.
He's been droning on about 'child props' all week. Must have seen the Miliband promo on BBC World.
Andrea Parma retweeted James Reed @JamesReedYP 1h1 hour ago #Labour selection panel has decided #Halifax will be an all-woman shortlist #electionyorks
Excellent! Any plans for the winnings? More punts??
Not till I lose some of the alcohol from my bloodstream. Mind you Mrs BJ supped me under the table. Could be my lucky night if she is still conscious by the time we get home.
Andrea Parma retweeted James Reed @JamesReedYP 1h1 hour ago #Labour selection panel has decided #Halifax will be an all-woman shortlist #electionyorks
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Mind you the UKIP score is up too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmyTTfyYKXM
I quite like the Disneyland notion of being 'on stage' at work, (although Disneyland's work culture is reported to be poisonous!)
A sad loss for millions.
Top Gear: Jeremy Clarkson netted more than £14m from show last year
Presenter received £4.8m dividend and £8.4m share buyout from BBC Worldwide, plus his presenter's salary of nearly £1m
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jul/16/jeremy-clarkson-top-gear-bbc-worldwide
Sad to see fantasy author Terry Pratchett has died - I'll miss the failed wizaed Rincewind, "the magical equivalent to the number zero" - RIP
Con 33.8
Lab 32.6
UKIP 14.2
LD 7.7
Grn 5.8
'Ashcroft & ICM link back to 2010 vote but dilute it to take account of false recall. That is their primary means of political weighting. Are you saying that they might as well make it up?'
What I do find strange is we get told the Lib Dems have done private polling that shows they are 'competitive' in seats like Solihull,two weeks later the data still isn't published and then Survation who apparently carried out the poll,but without any input on the questions, then appear to distance themselves from it.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/mar/09/jeremy-clarksons-company-makes-600000-profit
RIP Terry Pratchett.
The two reports did not say that anti-discrimination legislation facilitated the rapes. They said that there were a range of attitudes, amongst which a desire not to criticise certain communities was one, which created the climate in which these rapes happened and were not dealt with.
There may well be a need to deal with the unintended consequences of anti-discrimination legislation but it seems to me a tad worrying that so many people are so keen to want to be able to discriminate against fellow citizens or so oblivious to the harm that can result from such discrimination.
http://www.itv.com/news/2015-03-12/tory-legal-battle-against-reckless-held-in-secret/
Labour's Harriet Harman attacks Nigel Farage, calls on women to vote and defends her pink van on a visit to Wales
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/labours-harriet-harman-attacks-nigel-8829655
If Farage is Marmite, Harman is like finding maggots in your piece of pie.......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_United_Kingdom_general_election
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Provided the producer was Irish and could be shown to have been lazy in not organising food, I can't see any problem.
The sort of everyday language used at work around the country.
Arguments at work can end up with a punch ot two. I can recall an argument at a board meeting of the UK's biggest exporter when the overseas sales director and the distribution director disagreed over who was responsible for missing export targets. It ended in a punch up but they stepped outside the board room to do it. The next day they carried on working together, no problem and no one was bothered. In fact the fight meant they had respect for each other and that they really caried about the business. "
From a site that occasionaly hosted Tapestry this has to be one of the most barking mad posts I've read. This is the BBC not a Chinese take-away. No wonder Saville survived for long. They probably had someone like you in HR
That said, certain stories do demand greater length [hence why my WIP is part one of a trilogy].
Maskerade is also very funny as are all the witches series.
I am glad to see you speaking out against FPTP, Charles - and I did recognise that you do talk good sense some of the time.....
But if you have a corrupt and broken electoral system, which neither Labour nor the Tories are prepared to improve (out of self-interest, of course), then we have to do what we can to bring about a change - within the law, of course.
So the Tories can either use authoritarian means to clamp down on vote-swapping. Or they can work with others to bring about a voting system where most votes help to get somebody elected.
Most PB Tories seem to prefer the former.
Saxmund on 13th February:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_United_Kingdom_general_election&action=history
twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/574992041421193216
https://twitter.com/TNS_UK/status/574983816890171393
Perfect
Turns out that is not the family kitchen of their home, it's their "second kitchen"
I thought Ed wasn't into spin etc...he was a straight kinda of guy?
That would be incredibly boring and pointless too of course.
But I shall leave it there for now
New Scottish poll - YouGov for Times - due out at 10pm. Will things still be as dire for Labour? At start of Feb YouGov had SNP 21% ahead
Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 27s28 seconds ago
Extraordinarily, given its importance on May 7th, there've only been 7 published all Scotland polls since start of the year.
FARAGE THE MOST POPULAR LEADER?????
UP 5.5 POINTS ON THE LEADER RATINGS???
FARAGE THE MOST POPULAR YOU SAY MIKE?!
Do what..? - Is it the whole country, or just twitter that makes people sound slightly daft?
If the latter, it's comparable. If the former, Left Foot Forward are silly sausages.
Speaking of silliness:
https://twitter.com/hugorifkind/status/576079818443386880
I highly recommend watching the old Louis Theroux documentaries with the likes of Clifford, Savile, etc, they are really eye opening.
They are 9/4 now, if anyone wants to buy the bet off me let me know
I have £50@33/1 on the following things not happening at Cheltenham tomorrow
3 or more Irish trained winners
2 or more AP McCoy ridden winners
A winning distance of 17l or more
Anyone able to tell me the true odds?
James Reed @JamesReedYP 1h1 hour ago
#Labour selection panel has decided #Halifax will be an all-woman shortlist #electionyorks
@£79 -The bread maker was a kitchen appliance, rather than a full time patisserie chef I think