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  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,548

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    This event - http://www.independent.co.uk/livelondon/# - is happening next Tuesday.

    Coincidentally, Maajid Nawaz has just asked Galloway whether he's libelled him - http://hurryupharry.org/2015/03/11/galloway-libels-liberal-muslim/.

    It might make a good intro to the PB drinks later on........

    Galloway might need all those £5k's he has been collecting from people being nasty about him on twitter...
    Frankly were I Galloway I'd be wary about going into a courtroom to be asked about my attitude to Jews.......but as I don't want to get OGH into trouble I will say no more.

    MODERATORS: if you think necessary I'm happy to delete.

    Old George does very well these days, I am sure he can afford a tip top lawyer.

    £100k a year from Press TV and £100k a year from Al-Mayadeen TV.

    http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/11556866.George_Galloway__39_s_outside_earnings_third_highest_of_all_MPs/
    It's not his ability to afford a lawyer I was querying.

    I know you weren't, just saying he could afford some tip top legal advice on tricky issues. But probably better not to go any further...
    After Mrs Hodge - who has been royally criticised in pretty much all the papers today - he is someone I'd like to see taken down a peg or two.

    We should have a list of overrated egomaniacs whose balloons need pricking.

    Every time she gets above herself, someone should just mention Islington to her.

    And PWC.

    And Stemcor.

    And the family trust.

    And her being Minister for Children when Rotherham was happening.

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,149

    That may be as good as it gets with yeti stories.

    I seem to remember reading a Philip Kerr novel 20 odd years ago involving yeti. He did an excellent job, as does Mr T and as does Frederick Forsyth, of blurring the line between what's factual and what's novel so thoroughly that you can't tell where he's left off relating facts and where he's started making it up.

    The trouble though with yeti stories is they live above the snowline and they do bugger all. Who cares?

    If anyone likes spy stories can I recommend Edward Wilson. He messes with your head.
    Some of the later Philip Kerr Nazi Germany detective stories have outstanding. Almost up there with Michael Connelly in the genre.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,548
    malcolmg said:

    Greece threatens to seize Germany property:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31831694

    They really are stupid and deluded.
    The joys of "ever closer union" eh?!
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    malcolmg said:

    Greece threatens to seize Germany property:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31831694

    They really are stupid and deluded.
    Indeed. I'm trying to work out if Varoufakis' much vaunted game theory expertise just consists of rolling the dice.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    dr_spyn said:

    now Cameron wades in.

    Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 5s6 seconds ago
    PM David Cameron who is Jeremy #Clarkson's MP says presenter is a "great talent" and hopes his suspension from Top Gear "can be sorted out"

    The full quote:

    David Cameron tells BBC Midlands Today 'Jeremy Clarkson is a great talent, its a great programme, he's a friend so I hope it can be sorted out'.

    What are country supper friends for but to spout quease making platitudes in moments of crisis.
    Standing by his friend? Hoping that it can be sorted out?

    The Total and Utter Bastard!
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    welshowl said:

    malcolmg said:

    Greece threatens to seize Germany property:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31831694

    They really are stupid and deluded.
    Indeed. I'm trying to work out if Varoufakis' much vaunted game theory expertise just consists of rolling the dice.
    He should know that no amount of gamesmanship can make up a for a bad set of cards.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,149
    Given there seem to be no takers on the LibDem-SeanT longetivity bet (or at least none on the LibDem side), how about Clarkson longetivity versus the Euro.

    Both are creaky and look rather unhealthy. But both have survived many predictions of their demise...
  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245

    dr_spyn said:

    now Cameron wades in.

    Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 5s6 seconds ago
    PM David Cameron who is Jeremy #Clarkson's MP says presenter is a "great talent" and hopes his suspension from Top Gear "can be sorted out"

    The full quote:

    David Cameron tells BBC Midlands Today 'Jeremy Clarkson is a great talent, its a great programme, he's a friend so I hope it can be sorted out'.

    What are country supper friends for but to spout quease making platitudes in moments of crisis.
    What would you like him to have said?
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    This event - http://www.independent.co.uk/livelondon/# - is happening next Tuesday.

    Coincidentally, Maajid Nawaz has just asked Galloway whether he's libelled him - http://hurryupharry.org/2015/03/11/galloway-libels-liberal-muslim/.

    It might make a good intro to the PB drinks later on........

    Galloway might need all those £5k's he has been collecting from people being nasty about him on twitter...
    Frankly were I Galloway I'd be wary about going into a courtroom to be asked about my attitude to Jews.......but as I don't want to get OGH into trouble I will say no more.

    MODERATORS: if you think necessary I'm happy to delete.

    Old George does very well these days, I am sure he can afford a tip top lawyer.

    £100k a year from Press TV and £100k a year from Al-Mayadeen TV.

    http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/11556866.George_Galloway__39_s_outside_earnings_third_highest_of_all_MPs/
    It's not his ability to afford a lawyer I was querying.

    I know you weren't, just saying he could afford some tip top legal advice on tricky issues. But probably better not to go any further...
    After Mrs Hodge - who has been royally criticised in pretty much all the papers today - he is someone I'd like to see taken down a peg or two.

    We should have a list of overrated egomaniacs whose balloons need pricking.

    Every time she gets above herself, someone should just mention Islington to her.

    And Stemcor.

    What in particular about Stemcor?
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792

    dr_spyn said:

    now Cameron wades in.

    Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 5s6 seconds ago
    PM David Cameron who is Jeremy #Clarkson's MP says presenter is a "great talent" and hopes his suspension from Top Gear "can be sorted out"

    The full quote:

    David Cameron tells BBC Midlands Today 'Jeremy Clarkson is a great talent, its a great programme, he's a friend so I hope it can be sorted out'.

    What are country supper friends for but to spout quease making platitudes in moments of crisis.
    Standing by his friend? Hoping that it can be sorted out?

    The Total and Utter Bastard!
    They're English. That's enough to damn them in ThUD's wee nationalist mind. Curries and Tunnocks with Sir Rupert are his ticket.

  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034

    welshowl said:

    malcolmg said:

    Greece threatens to seize Germany property:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31831694

    They really are stupid and deluded.
    Indeed. I'm trying to work out if Varoufakis' much vaunted game theory expertise just consists of rolling the dice.
    He should know that no amount of gamesmanship can make up a for a bad set of cards.
    Initially, I thought that Varoufakis was trying to improve his cards by creating new issues. Now I just think he is an incompetent boor in love with the sound of his own voice. That his boss should tell him publicly to talk less and do more only reinforces that impression.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,527
    edited March 2015
    2 cameroonian pom pom boys so far, not bad for 5 minutes.

    edit: 4!
  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245

    2 cameroonian pom pom boys so far, not bad for 5 minutes.

    edit: 4!

    What would you have liked him to have said?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,062


    It's not just that Clarkson is boorish it's that he takes pride in it. There was a helicopter waiting for him to take him to his hotel in Yorkshire. He kept it waiting for three hours while he was in a pub. When he finally arrived at the hotel dinner had finished so he drunkenly punched the producer.

    A complete twat. If he'd have been working with me he'd have been fired and I'd have made sure everyone knew why and I've worked with much bigger names than that clown.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,527
    saddened said:

    2 cameroonian pom pom boys so far, not bad for 5 minutes.

    edit: 4!

    What would you have liked him to have said?
    I'm used to Cameron keeping his head down in the area of my particular political interest, but my expectations certainly wouldn't rise above queasy platitudes; liking doesn't come into it.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,449

    dr_spyn said:

    now Cameron wades in.

    Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 5s6 seconds ago
    PM David Cameron who is Jeremy #Clarkson's MP says presenter is a "great talent" and hopes his suspension from Top Gear "can be sorted out"

    The full quote:

    David Cameron tells BBC Midlands Today 'Jeremy Clarkson is a great talent, its a great programme, he's a friend so I hope it can be sorted out'.

    What are country supper friends for but to spout quease making platitudes in moments of crisis.
    Standing by his friend? Hoping that it can be sorted out?

    The Total and Utter Bastard!
    Cameron is very loyal to his friends.
  • rcs1000 said:

    Greece threatens to seize Germany property:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31831694

    That's nothing. Their defence minister recently sad that - if the rest of the EU didn't accede to Greek demands - that Greece would flood Europe with illegal migrants "including jihadists".

    It's not clear how this threat would be delivered, or indeed where Greece was planning on sourcing the jihadists.

    It is fair to say that the rest of the Eurozone is beginning to shrug its shoulders and say "fuck it, let'em go."
    and you were sure the Greeks matter would be settled... That makes me certain they are exiting.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738
    This is the same sort of nonsense attack on Dave this evening that was being laid on Miliband last night.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,548
    rcs1000 said:

    Greece threatens to seize Germany property:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31831694

    That's nothing. Their defence minister recently sad that - if the rest of the EU didn't accede to Greek demands - that Greece would flood Europe with illegal migrants "including jihadists".

    It's not clear how this threat would be delivered, or indeed where Greece was planning on sourcing the jihadists.

    It is fair to say that the rest of the Eurozone is beginning to shrug its shoulders and say "fuck it, let'em go."
    There are quite a few of them on the Libyan coast and they've already threatened to conquer Rome. Getting there via Athens is not that hard.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    Ken MacQuarrie, the man who oversaw the BBC inquiry into the Lord McAlpine affair, will be in charge of the investigation into Clarkson's behaviour, the Radio Times reports.
  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245

    saddened said:

    2 cameroonian pom pom boys so far, not bad for 5 minutes.

    edit: 4!

    What would you have liked him to have said?
    I'm used to Cameron keeping his head down in the area of my particular political interest, but my expectations certainly wouldn't rise above queasy platitudes; liking doesn't come into it.
    So no clue. Not unexpected.
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    Roger said:



    It's not just that Clarkson is boorish it's that he takes pride in it. There was a helicopter waiting for him to take him to his hotel in Yorkshire. He kept it waiting for three hours while he was in a pub. When he finally arrived at the hotel dinner had finished so he drunkenly punched the producer.

    A complete twat. If he'd have been working with me he'd have been fired and I'd have made sure everyone knew why and I've worked with much bigger names than that clown.

    hope you can back that up Wodger cause if not , its libellous...
  • I cannot believe the amount of airtime that the BBC are giving to themselves and that oaf Clarkson. Yes he is an oaf, no I do not like his programme, but yes I think the leftie media are out to get him. The Clarkson matter seems to be more important to the BBC News agenda than decisions about divorce settlements and other real national matters. FFS it is even on the "one show"!
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,496
    (Just For Fun)

    YouGov Prediction:

    Con lead 2%

  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,527
    edited March 2015
    saddened said:

    saddened said:

    2 cameroonian pom pom boys so far, not bad for 5 minutes.

    edit: 4!

    What would you have liked him to have said?
    I'm used to Cameron keeping his head down in the area of my particular political interest, but my expectations certainly wouldn't rise above queasy platitudes; liking doesn't come into it.
    So no clue. Not unexpected.
    Pom poms waving frantically: entirely expected.
  • On C4 News Labour peer Joan Bakewell is looking a bit unhinged.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,548
    Neil said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    This event - http://www.independent.co.uk/livelondon/# - is happening next Tuesday.

    Coincidentally, Maajid Nawaz has just asked Galloway whether he's libelled him - http://hurryupharry.org/2015/03/11/galloway-libels-liberal-muslim/.

    It might make a good intro to the PB drinks later on........

    Galloway might need all those £5k's he has been collecting from people being nasty about him on twitter...
    Frankly were I Galloway I'd be wary about going into a courtroom to be asked about my attitude to Jews.......but as I don't want to get OGH into trouble I will say no more.

    MODERATORS: if you think necessary I'm happy to delete.

    Old George does very well these days, I am sure he can afford a tip top lawyer.

    £100k a year from Press TV and £100k a year from Al-Mayadeen TV.

    http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/11556866.George_Galloway__39_s_outside_earnings_third_highest_of_all_MPs/
    It's not his ability to afford a lawyer I was querying.

    I know you weren't, just saying he could afford some tip top legal advice on tricky issues. But probably better not to go any further...
    After Mrs Hodge - who has been royally criticised in pretty much all the papers today - he is someone I'd like to see taken down a peg or two.

    We should have a list of overrated egomaniacs whose balloons need pricking.

    Every time she gets above herself, someone should just mention Islington to her.

    And Stemcor.

    What in particular about Stemcor?
    We've been through this before, as I'm sure you remember.

    It pays very little tax - rather less than me - and earns considerably more. All perfectly lawful of course.

    But then what PWC did and the CEO of HSBC did was all perfectly lawful and it didn't stop her shouting at them so others can play at the game. Sauce for the goose and all that.

  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,548
    saddened said:

    dr_spyn said:

    now Cameron wades in.

    Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 5s6 seconds ago
    PM David Cameron who is Jeremy #Clarkson's MP says presenter is a "great talent" and hopes his suspension from Top Gear "can be sorted out"

    The full quote:

    David Cameron tells BBC Midlands Today 'Jeremy Clarkson is a great talent, its a great programme, he's a friend so I hope it can be sorted out'.

    What are country supper friends for but to spout quease making platitudes in moments of crisis.
    What would you like him to have said?
    Did he have to say anything at all? He's PM not some HR director.

  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245

    saddened said:

    saddened said:

    2 cameroonian pom pom boys so far, not bad for 5 minutes.

    edit: 4!

    What would you have liked him to have said?
    I'm used to Cameron keeping his head down in the area of my particular political interest, but my expectations certainly wouldn't rise above queasy platitudes; liking doesn't come into it.
    So no clue. Not unexpected.
    Pom poms waving frantically: entirely expected.
    Your good at snide comments but that's it. So stick with it, you'll embarrass yourself less.
  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245
    Cyclefree said:

    saddened said:

    dr_spyn said:

    now Cameron wades in.

    Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 5s6 seconds ago
    PM David Cameron who is Jeremy #Clarkson's MP says presenter is a "great talent" and hopes his suspension from Top Gear "can be sorted out"

    The full quote:

    David Cameron tells BBC Midlands Today 'Jeremy Clarkson is a great talent, its a great programme, he's a friend so I hope it can be sorted out'.

    What are country supper friends for but to spout quease making platitudes in moments of crisis.
    What would you like him to have said?
    Did he have to say anything at all? He's PM not some HR director.

    So when asked a direct question your advice would be for him to say "no comment"?
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    rcs1000 said:

    Greece threatens to seize Germany property:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31831694

    That's nothing. Their defence minister recently sad that - if the rest of the EU didn't accede to Greek demands - that Greece would flood Europe with illegal migrants "including jihadists".

    It's not clear how this threat would be delivered, or indeed where Greece was planning on sourcing the jihadists.

    It is fair to say that the rest of the Eurozone is beginning to shrug its shoulders and say "fuck it, let'em go."
    One of Greece's problems is a huge number of asylum seekers/ economic immigrants.
  • SeanT said:

    I cannot believe the amount of airtime that the BBC are giving to themselves and that oaf Clarkson. Yes he is an oaf, no I do not like his programme, but yes I think the leftie media are out to get him. The Clarkson matter seems to be more important to the BBC News agenda than decisions about divorce settlements and other real national matters. FFS it is even on the "one show"!

    To be fair the financial future of the BBC rather depends on how this is resolved. So they're probably all a bit worried.
    If that is so (I see it as a problem of >2% of the BBC revenue), then the last thing the BBC should do is keep going on and on and on about it whipping up leftie folk to demand his head in some macho posturing about what sounds like a drunken fracas after a very long day.
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    SeanT said:

    Roger said:



    It's not just that Clarkson is boorish it's that he takes pride in it. There was a helicopter waiting for him to take him to his hotel in Yorkshire. He kept it waiting for three hours while he was in a pub. When he finally arrived at the hotel dinner had finished so he drunkenly punched the producer.

    A complete twat. If he'd have been working with me he'd have been fired and I'd have made sure everyone knew why and I've worked with much bigger names than that clown.

    Darling Rogerdamus, has it occurred to you that, if somehow you were in this situation (producing Jeremy Clarkson) and you decided to have Clarkson fired, things might not quite pan out that way?

    I mean, it's a difficult decision for the suits, isn't it? Who do you sack from the show, Jeremy Clarkson, probably the most popular TV presenter in the world, with 300 million viewers worldwide, or.. um.... er.... that Roger from pb... who did that tampax advert in the 1970s.. but who is REALLY angry.

    Which one gets the boot?

    Tricky.
    Agreed it is tricky , sack that popular Jimmy Saville , the thug Clarkson or feed some innocent bystanders to the fish , how would a hyperventilating hysterical twat like yourself resolve such moral conundrums ?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    Its all getting a bit testy on here this evening.
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095

    Its all getting a bit testy on here this evening.

    almost like PMQ's !!!
  • SeanT said:

    Roger said:



    It's not just that Clarkson is boorish it's that he takes pride in it. There was a helicopter waiting for him to take him to his hotel in Yorkshire. He kept it waiting for three hours while he was in a pub. When he finally arrived at the hotel dinner had finished so he drunkenly punched the producer.

    A complete twat. If he'd have been working with me he'd have been fired and I'd have made sure everyone knew why and I've worked with much bigger names than that clown.

    Darling Rogerdamus, has it occurred to you that, if somehow you were in this situation (producing Jeremy Clarkson) and you decided to have Clarkson fired, things might not quite pan out that way?

    I mean, it's a difficult decision for the suits, isn't it? Who do you sack from the show, Jeremy Clarkson, probably the most popular TV presenter in the world, with 300 million viewers worldwide, or.. um.... er.... that Roger from pb... who did that tampax advert in the 1970s.. but who is REALLY angry.

    Which one gets the boot?

    Tricky.
    Agreed it is tricky , sack that popular Jimmy Saville , the thug Clarkson or feed some innocent bystanders to the fish , how would a hyperventilating hysterical twat like yourself resolve such moral conundrums ?
    Equating Saville with Clarkson is despicable. Clarkson's an oaf, Saville was an evil monster just like Cyril Smith who destroyed many people's lives. Please have a sense of perspective. Clarkson may be a Conservative, that does not entitle you to portray him in that light.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,232

    Its all getting a bit testy on here this evening.

    Just as well i can't hear you...

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8evDPNCEAEIl-Z.jpg
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,527
    saddened said:

    saddened said:

    saddened said:

    2 cameroonian pom pom boys so far, not bad for 5 minutes.

    edit: 4!

    What would you have liked him to have said?
    I'm used to Cameron keeping his head down in the area of my particular political interest, but my expectations certainly wouldn't rise above queasy platitudes; liking doesn't come into it.
    So no clue. Not unexpected.
    Pom poms waving frantically: entirely expected.
    Your good at snide comments but that's it. So stick with it, you'll embarrass yourself less.
    'You're'
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,738

    saddened said:

    saddened said:

    saddened said:

    2 cameroonian pom pom boys so far, not bad for 5 minutes.

    edit: 4!

    What would you have liked him to have said?
    I'm used to Cameron keeping his head down in the area of my particular political interest, but my expectations certainly wouldn't rise above queasy platitudes; liking doesn't come into it.
    So no clue. Not unexpected.
    Pom poms waving frantically: entirely expected.
    Your good at snide comments but that's it. So stick with it, you'll embarrass yourself less.
    'You're'
    lol
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    GIN1138 said:

    (Just For Fun)

    YouGov Prediction:

    Con lead 2%

    I reckon a tie tonight.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,232

    saddened said:

    saddened said:

    saddened said:

    2 cameroonian pom pom boys so far, not bad for 5 minutes.

    edit: 4!

    What would you have liked him to have said?
    I'm used to Cameron keeping his head down in the area of my particular political interest, but my expectations certainly wouldn't rise above queasy platitudes; liking doesn't come into it.
    So no clue. Not unexpected.
    Pom poms waving frantically: entirely expected.
    Your good at snide comments but that's it. So stick with it, you'll embarrass yourself less.
    'You're'
    Ooooooo
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,738
    @ Roger

    ignore that nasty SeanT Roger, I bought loads of tampons in the seventies on the strength of your adverts.
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    dr_spyn said:

    All it needs now is Ed to demand a judge led inquiry into Clarksongate.

    Ed to demand a law that right wing car fanatics should be banned from TV
  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245

    saddened said:

    saddened said:

    saddened said:

    2 cameroonian pom pom boys so far, not bad for 5 minutes.

    edit: 4!

    What would you have liked him to have said?
    I'm used to Cameron keeping his head down in the area of my particular political interest, but my expectations certainly wouldn't rise above queasy platitudes; liking doesn't come into it.
    So no clue. Not unexpected.
    Pom poms waving frantically: entirely expected.
    Your good at snide comments but that's it. So stick with it, you'll embarrass yourself less.
    'You're'
    Good, you've taken my advice, well done, a good decision.
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095

    SeanT said:

    Roger said:



    It's not just that Clarkson is boorish it's that he takes pride in it. There was a helicopter waiting for him to take him to his hotel in Yorkshire. He kept it waiting for three hours while he was in a pub. When he finally arrived at the hotel dinner had finished so he drunkenly punched the producer.

    A complete twat. If he'd have been working with me he'd have been fired and I'd have made sure everyone knew why and I've worked with much bigger names than that clown.

    Darling Rogerdamus, has it occurred to you that, if somehow you were in this situation (producing Jeremy Clarkson) and you decided to have Clarkson fired, things might not quite pan out that way?

    I mean, it's a difficult decision for the suits, isn't it? Who do you sack from the show, Jeremy Clarkson, probably the most popular TV presenter in the world, with 300 million viewers worldwide, or.. um.... er.... that Roger from pb... who did that tampax advert in the 1970s.. but who is REALLY angry.

    Which one gets the boot?

    Tricky.
    Agreed it is tricky , sack that popular Jimmy Saville , the thug Clarkson or feed some innocent bystanders to the fish , how would a hyperventilating hysterical twat like yourself resolve such moral conundrums ?
    You know a lot about polling, but your comment about Clarkson puts you in the complete shit category.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @TCPoliticalBetting

    Clarkson is selfish, full of his own importance and expects everything handed to him on a silver platter. And you think he "may" be a Tory?
    #beardefecation
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    weejonnie said:

    dr_spyn said:

    All it needs now is Ed to demand a judge led inquiry into Clarksongate.

    Ed to demand a law that right wing car fanatics should be banned from TV
    Plus 6 "questions" at next weeks PMQ's stating that Cameron's judgement is fatally flawed and everybody can see what kind of man he is because of being a friend of Clarkson.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
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  • TCPoliticalBettingTCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    edited March 2015
    Let us compare two histories. Child abuse and tax evasion.
    1. Margaret Hodge "In 1985, Demetrious Panton wrote to Islington Council to complain about the abuse that he had suffered while in the council's care in the 1970s and 1980s." Hodge was Islington Council Leader from1982 until 1992. In 2003 she responded to Panton by letter, in which she apologised for referring to him as 'an extremely disturbed person' in an earlier letter to the BBC chairman" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hodge
    2. HSBC slated for having one of its subsiduaries in Switzerland apparently engaged in tax evasion.

    The damage to the children in Islington should have resulted in Hodge being judged as unfit and her response to Panton was far worse than the reaction of HSBC's bosses, yet they were not paid public servants.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,548
    saddened said:

    Cyclefree said:

    saddened said:

    dr_spyn said:

    now Cameron wades in.

    Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 5s6 seconds ago
    PM David Cameron who is Jeremy #Clarkson's MP says presenter is a "great talent" and hopes his suspension from Top Gear "can be sorted out"

    The full quote:

    David Cameron tells BBC Midlands Today 'Jeremy Clarkson is a great talent, its a great programme, he's a friend so I hope it can be sorted out'.

    What are country supper friends for but to spout quease making platitudes in moments of crisis.
    What would you like him to have said?
    Did he have to say anything at all? He's PM not some HR director.

    So when asked a direct question your advice would be for him to say "no comment"?
    "I don't comment on HR matters of entities which are not run by the government."

    Or "It's for the BBC to sort out".

    Or, even, just a smile and a murmured "I've got a country to run" or say nothing.

    This idea that the the PM has to comment on whatever froth is currently exercising people (and however nice or not the programme is or Clarkson is it's froth) is just silly.

    I mean - if I got a petition of a squillion people to complain about the positioning of my local bus stop outside Tesco and how it was stopping Emma Thompson who lives nearby from getting to her acting job on time should the PM really be commenting?

    This sort of stuff doesn't make the PM look in touch, it makes him look needy and frivolous. It's a bit below the dignity of the office, no? There are some serious political problems to be dealing with at the moment. The catering arrangements on Top Gear are not one of them.

  • BlueberryBlueberry Posts: 408
    As well as being a massive earner for the BBC, Clarkson is also a useful foil against well-founded accusations of left-wing bias. There's no obvious replacement for him, not least because the BBC hasn't commission politically incorrect comedy for years. He'll be a big loss.
  • TCPoliticalBettingTCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    edited March 2015
    Smarmeron said:

    @TCPoliticalBetting

    Clarkson is selfish, full of his own importance and expects everything handed to him on a silver platter. And you think he "may" be a Tory?
    #beardefecation

    Smarmeron said:

    @TCPoliticalBetting


    #beardefecation

    Well if you are of the baby eating mentality, then chuck stones at an oaf and ignore the really evil people around us.
  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245

    weejonnie said:

    dr_spyn said:

    All it needs now is Ed to demand a judge led inquiry into Clarksongate.

    Ed to demand a law that right wing car fanatics should be banned from TV
    Plus 6 "questions" at next weeks PMQ's stating that Cameron's judgement is fatally flawed and everybody can see what kind of man he is because of being a friend of Clarkson.
    He'll probably go on the NHS,

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/03/exclusive-the-nhs-report-that-labour-tried-to-block/

    Or possibly not.
  • TCPoliticalBettingTCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    edited March 2015
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  • frpenkridgefrpenkridge Posts: 670
    edited March 2015
    I'd like to think I'm a typical PB Tory (Nasty, British and short), but I couldn't care less about the Clarkson saga, one way or the other.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @TCPoliticalBetting

    Do you throw punches at the people under you, when you get upset as well then?
  • Smarmeron said:

    @TCPoliticalBetting

    Do you throw punches at the people under you, when you get upset as well then?

    When did you stop beating your wife question? Have a sense of perspective please.
  • Blueberry said:

    As well as being a massive earner for the BBC, Clarkson is also a useful foil against well-founded accusations of left-wing bias. There's no obvious replacement for him, not least because the BBC hasn't commission politically incorrect comedy for years. He'll be a big loss.

    Mrs Brown's Boys goes close to that aim.
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    New thread
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    welshowl said:

    malcolmg said:

    Greece threatens to seize Germany property:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31831694

    They really are stupid and deluded.
    Indeed. I'm trying to work out if Varoufakis' much vaunted game theory expertise just consists of rolling the dice.
    There is nothing wrong with a good toss of the dice; providing they're loaded. ;)
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,548
    edited March 2015

    Let us compare two histories. Child abuse and tax evasion.
    1. Margaret Hodge "In 1985, Demetrious Panton wrote to Islington Council to complain about the abuse that he had suffered while in the council's care in the 1970s and 1980s." Hodge was Islington Council Leader from1982 until 1992. In 2003 she responded to Panton by letter, in which she apologised for referring to him as 'an extremely disturbed person' in an earlier letter to the BBC chairman" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hodge
    2. HSBC slated for having one of its subsiduaries in Switzerland apparently engaged in tax evasion.

    The damage to the children in Islington should have resulted in Hodge being judged as unfit and her response to Panton was far worse than the reaction of HSBC's bosses, yet they were not paid public servants.

    Apart from Hodge's hypocrisy and self-righteousness, what really irks me is that, having gone through the Islington experience, she - of all people - should have understood how things can go wrong and how even senior/experienced and - let us be charitable - well-meaning people can get things wrong.

    That understanding can and should have informed her approach to similar scandals elsewhere. Not in the sense of letting other people off the hook but in the sense of trying to come up with changes/improvements which have a real chance of making things better, informed by her own experiences. But that would require her to accept that she did wrong and really really learn from what went wrong. And that level of what I would call repentance - rather than remorse - which is superficial requires a level of self-knowledge and humility, which seems entirely absent in her.

    And it is a pity because the lashing of HSBC turned into a performance rather than into something potentially useful.

    People make mistakes. It's whether they learn from them and how they react to them which is measure of them. On that measure, Hodge has failed. The hypocrisy is merely the icing on the cake.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    edited March 2015
    Cameron knows Clarkson personally, so he is bound to be asked his opinion on by journalists, I am sure he was more than happy to make a comment on this issue. At some point in the next 24/48hrs I fully expect to hear the views of all the party Leaders on the issue of Clarkson vs the BBC, I would be more surprised if we didn't. Its not just PB.com that has spent the most of the afternoon/evening talking about Clarkson, the whole country is talking about it.
    Cyclefree said:

    saddened said:

    Cyclefree said:

    saddened said:

    dr_spyn said:

    now Cameron wades in.

    Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 5s6 seconds ago
    PM David Cameron who is Jeremy #Clarkson's MP says presenter is a "great talent" and hopes his suspension from Top Gear "can be sorted out"

    The full quote:

    David Cameron tells BBC Midlands Today 'Jeremy Clarkson is a great talent, its a great programme, he's a friend so I hope it can be sorted out'.

    What are country supper friends for but to spout quease making platitudes in moments of crisis.
    What would you like him to have said?
    Did he have to say anything at all? He's PM not some HR director.

    So when asked a direct question your advice would be for him to say "no comment"?
    "I don't comment on HR matters of entities which are not run by the government."

    Or "It's for the BBC to sort out".

    Or, even, just a smile and a murmured "I've got a country to run" or say nothing.

    This idea that the the PM has to comment on whatever froth is currently exercising people (and however nice or not the programme is or Clarkson is it's froth) is just silly.

    I mean - if I got a petition of a squillion people to complain about the positioning of my local bus stop outside Tesco and how it was stopping Emma Thompson who lives nearby from getting to her acting job on time should the PM really be commenting?

    This sort of stuff doesn't make the PM look in touch, it makes him look needy and frivolous. It's a bit below the dignity of the office, no? There are some serious political problems to be dealing with at the moment. The catering arrangements on Top Gear are not one of them.

  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Smarmeron said:

    @TCPoliticalBetting

    Clarkson is selfish, full of his own importance and expects everything handed to him on a silver platter. And you think he "may" be a Tory?
    #beardefecation

    Says you who calls someone thick on here and then tells them not to bother posting to you because they not up to your standard.


  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    Smarmeron said:

    @TCPoliticalBetting

    Clarkson is selfish, full of his own importance and expects everything handed to him on a silver platter. And you think he "may" be a Tory?
    #beardefecation

    Says you who calls someone thick on here and then tells them not to bother posting to you because they not up to your standard.
    Christ, Smarmie said that? The dim leftie against whom all other dim lefties are judged?

    What enrages the lefties beyond belief is that Clarkson is funny, and they have thought since the 80s that they own comedy. Their picture of the future is Ben Elton yelling FATCHAA at an audience in Hampstead, forever.

    Oh, and that people in white vans with England flags in the window are the sort of people who find Clarkson funny.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Cyclefree said:

    Neil said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    This event - http://www.independent.co.uk/livelondon/# - is happening next Tuesday.

    Coincidentally, Maajid Nawaz has just asked Galloway whether he's libelled him - http://hurryupharry.org/2015/03/11/galloway-libels-liberal-muslim/.

    It might make a good intro to the PB drinks later on........

    Galloway might need all those £5k's he has been collecting from people being nasty about him on twitter...
    Frankly were I Galloway I'd be wary about going into a courtroom to be asked about my attitude to Jews.......but as I don't want to get OGH into trouble I will say no more.

    MODERATORS: if you think necessary I'm happy to delete.

    Old George does very well these days, I am sure he can afford a tip top lawyer.

    £100k a year from Press TV and £100k a year from Al-Mayadeen TV.

    http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/11556866.George_Galloway__39_s_outside_earnings_third_highest_of_all_MPs/
    It's not his ability to afford a lawyer I was querying.

    I know you weren't, just saying he could afford some tip top legal advice on tricky issues. But probably better not to go any further...
    After Mrs Hodge - who has been royally criticised in pretty much all the papers today - he is someone I'd like to see taken down a peg or two.

    We should have a list of overrated egomaniacs whose balloons need pricking.

    Every time she gets above herself, someone should just mention Islington to her.

    And Stemcor.

    What in particular about Stemcor?
    We've been through this before, as I'm sure you remember.

    It pays very little tax - rather less than me - and earns considerably more. All perfectly lawful of course.

    But then what PWC did and the CEO of HSBC did was all perfectly lawful and it didn't stop her shouting at them so others can play at the game. Sauce for the goose and all that.

    It paid very little tax in one particular year due to offsetting losses.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    This is some Cornish liberal party standing aside for Ukip... Any effect likely?

    Nigel Farage (@Nigel_Farage)
    11/03/2015 22:53
    Liberal Party urges supporters to vote Ukip: po.st/CaXiMA





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