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  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,531
    Regarding the Clarkson fracas, are there many job situations where one wouldn't be suspended for trying to punch a colleague/subordinate/superior? Apart from a couple of casual labouring jobs, I've never worked in one.
  • ajb1970ajb1970 Posts: 2
    I agree is bad politics with the electorate but perhaps Farage's thinking more about his position as UKIP leader should be fail to get elected.
  • I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    edited March 2015

    Regarding the Clarkson fracas, are there many job situations where one wouldn't be suspended for trying to punch a colleague/subordinate/superior? Apart from a couple of casual labouring jobs, I've never worked in one.

    I worked in a warehouse one summer where it was quite common occurrence....normally those fighting were closely related.
  • DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626
    welshowl said:

    Urgh, the Beeb love-In at chez miliband is quite sick-making.

    Urgh, the Beeb love-In at chez miliband is quite sick-making.

    In fairness it's a series. Sturgeon next week. I assume Farage, Clegg, Cameron follow.
    I'm aware, but still sickeningly sycophantic.

    Will Sturgeon's piece be the same?
  • JEOJEO Posts: 3,656
    I wonder whether Nigel Farage, for all his authenticity branding, is playing political games here. The people voting for Al Murray are those that wish to mock UKIP, not those who are inclined to support them. That means every extra vote Murray gets is a vote for which the Conservatives can not compete. It's completely in UKIP's interest to play him up as a result.

    Personally, I wish Al Murray had looked for his advertising elsewhere. If he genuinely opposed Nigel Farage, he would do his best to stay away from electoral politics, which are a serious matter.
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    welshowl said:

    Urgh, the Beeb love-In at chez miliband is quite sick-making.

    Urgh, the Beeb love-In at chez miliband is quite sick-making.

    In fairness it's a series. Sturgeon next week. I assume Farage, Clegg, Cameron follow.
    Camerons will be a fantastic insight into the real Dave.
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    Ishmael_X said:

    surbiton said:

    RobD said:

    Dair said:

    The Electoral Commission doesn;t make its judgement based on acronyms. They aren't comparing FUKP to UKIP.

    Source? And if not, why not I wonder.
    The local paper reports it here: http://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/news/its-official---the-pub-33177/

    It quotes the Electoral Commission as follows:

    "We concluded that this party name, if used on a ballot paper, was not likely to lead to electors confusing it with another registered party. At the same time we refused to register the emblem that the Free United Kingdom Party is currently using for campaigning purposes. This is clearly similar to UKIP’s registered emblem and as a result we judged that there was a clear risk of voter confusion. The party may use this emblem in other contexts but it may not use it on ballot papers. The acronym FUKP will also not appear on the ballot paper."

    Sufficient for you? And if not, why not I wonder?
    I think that is OK. UKIP supporters are not literate enough to read the full name of any party.
    I'm a UKIP supporter on and off, and I've got a first from Oxford and a PhD from a Russell Group university. Easy claims to make on the internet, but you can have anything upwards of £500 at evens on either or both of them if you want to question them.

    After your silly little sneer I think you owe it to us to disclose the exact height of literacy from which you are sneering.
    Noticed on here in the last month or so,the labour supporters are showing who are the real nasty party.
    Yeah, see his "Israel" effort below.

    He seems to have gone a bit quiet, though, which is good.
  • saddosaddo Posts: 534

    saddo said:

    Miliband really is in the brown stuff, if him and his handlers think using Big Gordo's election playbook, with Mrs Brown to the fore is a step forward towards Number 10.

    2 things stand out in the Guardian article:

    Mr & Mrs Ed apparently talk about "vested interests" at home. Do these people actually have a life?

    Best part is the Guardian edit comment at the end where they say:

    "This article was amended on 10 March 2015. The original references to Justine Thornton have been changed to reflect Labour’s statement that she wished to use the surname Miliband in political life."

    Obviously some Labour staffer realised that an article about family life didn't come across all that well without the family name.

    Remember this is a couple who only got married once he became party leader and didn't bother putting his name on his son's birth certificate. Very Odd Ed and Odd Justine.

    Not really. It is quite common for lady lawyers to practice under their maiden names - I know one married to a Tory MP who does. Not having to explain that in every interview Justine does seems sensible.
    My point is both that she's never before to my knowledge, ever been referred to as "Justine Miliband" in any context and that the Labour party minders who sat in on the interview and The Guardian journo who wrote it had no idea of her new name either.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,742
    It's that time of the day again !
  • Pulpstar said:

    It's that time of the day again !

    Hammer time?
  • DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626
    @EmClarkson1: Oh God, BBC please take him back... He's started cooking...
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @SunPolitics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Tories ahead by two: CON 33%, LAB 31%, LD 8%, UKIP 15%, GRN 6%
  • @SunPolitics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Tories ahead by two: CON 33%, LAB 31%, LD 8%, UKIP 15%, GRN 6%
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    Tory lead cut in half.
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    CON 33%, LAB 31%, LD 8%, UKIP 15%, GRN 6%
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,742

    Pulpstar said:

    It's that time of the day again !

    Hammer time?
    CON lead by 2. CON 33, LAB 31, LD 8, UKIP 15, GRN 6. http://opinionbee.uk/poll/2017
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Sun Politics ✔ @SunPolitics

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Tories ahead by two: CON 33%, LAB 31%, LD 8%, UKIP 15%, GRN 6%
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    Tory lead cut in half.

    Sleazy broken tories
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    Ishmael_X said:

    Tory lead cut in half.

    Sleazy broken tories
    ....cut in half
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,449

    Tory lead cut in half.

    You can't touch this.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,496
    Have we had tonight's YouGov poll yet?
  • Not another blue lead... surely reds will be back in front after justine's intervention.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    edited March 2015
    Basil prays to the heavens that Clarkson has knocked Miliband off the telly.

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7087/7402687046_140b588593_z.jpg
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,548

    surbiton said:

    Islamic State posts Israeli Arab 'spy death video'

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31822703

    As far as Israel is concerned, it will be one less Arab.
    There are some Arab Israeli citizens.

    Just as Muslim and Arab aren't synonymous [80% of Muslims aren't Arabs] nor are Israeli and Jew.
    Not all Palestinians are Muslims either. There is quite a significant Arab Christian community. Though one fears for their future if IS is not defeated - and soon.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,741
    edited March 2015
    Very good poll for Con.

    Totally unrealistic to think true lead could be higher than 2%.

    The main thing is that it is another Con lead - which provides further evidence that Con has now edged ahead.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,232
    Let's see if the Blues can get the hattrick tomorrow....
  • DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626

    Ishmael_X said:

    Tory lead cut in half.

    Sleazy broken tories
    ....cut in half
    Debate backlash?
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    GIN1138 said:

    Have we had tonight's YouGov poll yet?

    50% cut in Tory lead. Shares in tissues start to slide. A number of redundancies announced in keyboard cleaning companies.

    Basil turns over in bed......another day on holiday.
  • RobD said:

    Let's see if the Blues can get the hattrick tomorrow....

    Tonight's was the hat-trick.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,872

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    The coin should display two dead Frenchmen, on top of a pile of dead Frenchmen.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,015
    I went to the same school as Al Murray and we used to play Dulwich (Farage's school) at Rugby. However Farage is a few years older than Murray so it's unlikely they crossed swords on the playing fields of Eton. Incidentally whenever Al came back to the school some of the Masters had great difficulty in understanding that he was a comedian and wondered what he did for a day job.
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371

    Ishmael_X said:

    Tory lead cut in half.

    Sleazy broken tories
    ....cut in half
    Debate backlash?
    Debatable.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,496
    edited March 2015

    GIN1138 said:

    Have we had tonight's YouGov poll yet?

    50% cut in Tory lead. Shares in tissues start to slide. A number of redundancies announced in keyboard cleaning companies.

    Basil turns over in bed......another day on holiday.
    edit
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371

    Basil prays to the heavens that Clarkson has knocked Miliband off the telly.

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7087/7402687046_140b588593_z.jpg

    LOL!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,232

    RobD said:

    Let's see if the Blues can get the hattrick tomorrow....

    Tonight's was the hat-trick.
    Well, a hattrick in YouGov/The Sun polls!
  • Sean_F said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    The coin should display two dead Frenchmen, on top of a pile of dead Frenchmen.
    We should also rename London St Pancras, to London Agincourt.
  • PurseybearPurseybear Posts: 766
    Cyclefree said:

    surbiton said:

    Islamic State posts Israeli Arab 'spy death video'

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31822703

    As far as Israel is concerned, it will be one less Arab.
    There are some Arab Israeli citizens.

    Just as Muslim and Arab aren't synonymous [80% of Muslims aren't Arabs] nor are Israeli and Jew.
    Not all Palestinians are Muslims either. There is quite a significant Arab Christian community. Though one fears for their future if IS is not defeated - and soon.
    Yes indeed.

    Good tory lead again. Looks like they've edged ahead by a whisker.
  • PurseybearPurseybear Posts: 766
    edited March 2015

    RobD said:

    Let's see if the Blues can get the hattrick tomorrow....

    Tonight's was the hat-trick.
    When was the last time for a tory YG hat trick?
  • DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626
    GIN1138 said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Have we had tonight's YouGov poll yet?

    50% cut in Tory lead. Shares in tissues start to slide. A number of redundancies announced in keyboard cleaning companies.

    Basil turns over in bed......another day on holiday
    Snip LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
    Can you edit that? Long lines play havoc I with the formatting on mobile devices...
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,496
    GIN1138 said:

    Have we had tonight's YouGov poll yet?

    Hello?

  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    When the patriotic clamour for a bank holiday on 21 October, I am tempted to counter-propose 22 October, on the basis that it would both be an appropriate Apologise-to-the-French-for-Trafalgar day, and roughly mark the start of Diwali.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,232
    GIN1138 said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Have we had tonight's YouGov poll yet?

    Hello?

    We're over here, GIN!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    edited March 2015
    Clarkson attacked Oisin Tymon for not sorting out his dinner according to the Mirror.

    Got to be more to it than that.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Not another blue lead... surely reds will be back in front after justine's intervention.

    She loves him so much she took his name - oh no she could put be bothered ...
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,496

    GIN1138 said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Have we had tonight's YouGov poll yet?

    50% cut in Tory lead. Shares in tissues start to slide. A number of redundancies announced in keyboard cleaning companies.

    Basil turns over in bed......another day on holiday
    Snip LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
    Can you edit that? Long lines play havoc I with the formatting on mobile devices...
    I did for you. x

  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,232

    Clarkson attacked Oisin Tymon for not sorting out his dinner according to the Mirror.

    Got to be more to it than that.

    What a lame excuse!
  • Ishmael_X said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    When the patriotic clamour for a bank holiday on 21 October, I am tempted to counter-propose 22 October, on the basis that it would both be an appropriate Apologise-to-the-French-for-Trafalgar day, and roughly mark the start of Diwali.
    The 25th of October would be my choice.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,872

    Sean_F said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    The coin should display two dead Frenchmen, on top of a pile of dead Frenchmen.
    We should also rename London St Pancras, to London Agincourt.
    It's with that kind of thinking that the Conservatives will get back votes from UKIP.

    Labour's poll rating seems to have slipped to 1987's level.
  • DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626
    GIN1138 said:

    GIN1138 said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Have we had tonight's YouGov poll yet?

    50% cut in Tory lead. Shares in tissues start to slide. A number of redundancies announced in keyboard cleaning companies.

    Basil turns over in bed......another day on holiday
    Snip LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
    Can you edit that? Long lines play havoc I with the formatting on mobile devices...
    I did for you. x

    Bless you dearheart
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,996

    Sean_F said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    The coin should display two dead Frenchmen, on top of a pile of dead Frenchmen.
    We should also rename London St Pancras, to London Agincourt.
    You do know that France won the Hundred Years War don't you ???

    And we should be thankful that it did and so removed a source of continental dynastic entanglements.

    The battles which should be honoured are those of 1759.
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    Sean_F said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    The coin should display two dead Frenchmen, on top of a pile of dead Frenchmen.
    LOL
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,015
    Starting to get rather worried about these polls. The thing about Scotland is it could easily become a double whammy for Labour. Losing seats to the SNP which then convinces English voters that a Labour government would be in the pocket of the SNP. It's an absolute nightmare.
  • DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626

    Sean_F said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    The coin should display two dead Frenchmen, on top of a pile of dead Frenchmen.
    We should also rename London St Pancras, to London Agincourt.
    *wipes patriotic tear from eye*
    I'd vote for you TSE.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,496
    Sean_F said:



    Labour's poll rating seems to have slipped to 1987's level.

    Sadly the Tories hasn't risen accordingly... But we always knew Cam was not The Blessed Margaret! :(

  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Blame Labour for Top Gears demise


    @LizKershawDJ: Top Tip for @JeremyClarkson Thinking of generating multi million £££ for the BBC and the UK? Then don't challenge BBC unionised staff
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,729
    edited March 2015
    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    The coin should display two dead Frenchmen, on top of a pile of dead Frenchmen.
    We should also rename London St Pancras, to London Agincourt.
    It's with that kind of thinking that the Conservatives will get back votes from UKIP.

    Labour's poll rating seems to have slipped to 1987's level.
    If the Tories had me in charge, we'd be polling around 60%.

    I remember in the mid 1990s, the French Government complained about Eurostar terminating at Waterloo, and wanting it to be renamed.

    Yes, the country, that has a train station called Gare d'Austerlitz
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976

    @JeremyClarkson: Sorry Ed. It seems I knocked your "I'm a human" piece down the news agenda.

    Arf - I seem to recall Jeremy Clarkson knocking the Union's 'one million march' off the front pages. - he appears to be making a habit of it.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,996
    Re polls and betting.

    I think we should spare a thought for our old friend tim.

    Who was placing bets on the basis of the equation:

    2015 Lab = 2010 Lab + 1/2 2010 LD

    Well I did warn him ...
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,120
    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    Justine's word 'decency' links in nicely with the Clarkson debacle. Just looking at a re-run of his insensitive gaffes on 4 reminds me of how truly awful he is. We have Clarkson insulting Brown's lack of sight in one eye, deliberately using two racist terms, provoking Argentinian ire through unwise number plates etc.etc. The man's a dated menace and needs to be off air as soon as possible.

    I don't follow. Why does he need to be off air? if you don't like him, don't watch Top Gear.

    roseree- I mean ffs. We don't live in North Korea.

    I am always happy that Clarkson has such a high profile because he openly and proudly displays the oafish, ignorant stupidity of the right wing Tories. We know they ALL do it behind our backs- I mean ALL of them in their gentlemen's clubs, their soireees, their smug dinner parties. Tory policies reek of the self satisfied, conceited disdain of the plebs from tax cuts, to free schools to bedroom taxes, but very few (aka Clarkson) are prepared to articulate their vile views publicly. Boris Johnson would fit into this category, but he still harbours ambitions. In the future, if BJ's plans fail, expect to see him driving a sports car in Top Gear and slagging off plebs.
    You do realise that Top Gear is, by far, the BBC's most successful and profitable programme, generating around £300m a year?

    If it is kicked into touch by some bien pensant producer, somewhat akin to yourself, or surbiton, or whoever, then all your precious unwatchable-but-worthy BBC programming will suffer, indeed the entire corporation would be in trouble, as would any business which lost its most profitable asset overnight.

    BBC-felchers of the Left might ponder that. They might also ponder WHY Clarkson is so popular. Right now #BringBackClarkson is trending number 6, worldwide.

    seanT- I'd no rather see Clarkson expunged from our TV than you stopping to post at pbCOM. I love polemic; colourful people with colourful views. Clarkson is a showman and often funny. I don't think anything could be drearier than Harman's pink bus preaching kitchen table politics.

    I actually like Boris too. Entertaining and fun. But whether I want them taking responsibility for the decisions on behalf of the poorest, disenfranchised, most vulnerable- people they obviously have nothing in common with.. that is another matter.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    edited March 2015
    @TGOHF
    "Blame Labour for Top Gears demise"

    Still working on linking them to the ebola virus Harry?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    TGOHF said:

    Blame Labour for Top Gears demise


    @LizKershawDJ: Top Tip for @JeremyClarkson Thinking of generating multi million £££ for the BBC and the UK? Then don't challenge BBC unionised staff

    What's all that about?
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915
    Evening all. 2nd, 5th and 6th October 2014 was the last time YouGov gave 3 consecutive Tory leads of 1,2 and 2. So we shall see what happens tomorrow night.
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    It's an absolute nightmare.

    English voters might be reassured if ed ruled out any coalition with the SNP.

    But he won;'t.

    This simply can't go on. The prospect of SNP lab coalition is destroying labour in both countries.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @taffys

    Has Dave ruled out a coalition with anyone yet?
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    Ishmael_X said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    When the patriotic clamour for a bank holiday on 21 October, I am tempted to counter-propose 22 October, on the basis that it would both be an appropriate Apologise-to-the-French-for-Trafalgar day, and roughly mark the start of Diwali.
    The 25th of October would be my choice.
    Feck yeah, St Crispin's Day. Waterloo was good, but Waterloo for some reason never got the Shakespeare treatment.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,449
    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    The coin should display two dead Frenchmen, on top of a pile of dead Frenchmen.
    We should also rename London St Pancras, to London Agincourt.
    It's with that kind of thinking that the Conservatives will get back votes from UKIP.

    Labour's poll rating seems to have slipped to 1987's level.
    That would be terrific if you did, Sean. As a brother in arms, I don't like being in a different place to you!

    And on that bombshell (© Clarkson) I'm hitting the sack.
  • Starting to get rather worried about these polls. The thing about Scotland is it could easily become a double whammy for Labour. Losing seats to the SNP which then convinces English voters that a Labour government would be in the pocket of the SNP. It's an absolute nightmare.

    Its happening already and is only going to intensify. Toxic for labour
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    I'd be much more worried over this at the BBC:

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/08/bbc-whistleblowers-jimmy-savile

    The whistleblowers who broke the Jimmy Savile story have seen their careers nosedive while executives protect their own status
  • Ishmael_X said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    When the patriotic clamour for a bank holiday on 21 October, I am tempted to counter-propose 22 October, on the basis that it would both be an appropriate Apologise-to-the-French-for-Trafalgar day, and roughly mark the start of Diwali.
    The 25th of October would be my choice.
    Feck yeah, St Crispin's Day. Waterloo was good, but Waterloo for some reason never got the Shakespeare treatment.
    But Waterloo got the ABBA treatment, which is nearly as good.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,232

    Evening all. 2nd, 5th and 6th October 2014 was the last time YouGov gave 3 consecutive Tory leads of 1,2 and 2. So we shall see what happens tomorrow night.

    What about when you consider polls for The Sun only.
  • My other proposal to get the Tories polling 60% plus, in the Tory Manifesto I would write this

    "I David Cameron, promise my EU renegotiation strategy in the next parliament will be based on the Battle of Waterloo. An Eton educated Conservative Prime Minister uniting Europe to give the French a damn good thrashing"
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,548
    edited March 2015

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html


    And we can put my profile on the other side - the Italo/Irish/British four-greats-granddaughter of Napoleon himself! Epater les Francais!

  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Smarmeron said:

    @TGOHF
    "Blame Labour for Top Gears demise"

    Still working on linking them to the ebola virus Harry?

    They are a bunch of chimps.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,232

    I'd be much more worried over this at the BBC:

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/08/bbc-whistleblowers-jimmy-savile

    The whistleblowers who broke the Jimmy Savile story have seen their careers nosedive while executives protect their own status

    To be fair, they could be crap employees.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,449

    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    The coin should display two dead Frenchmen, on top of a pile of dead Frenchmen.
    We should also rename London St Pancras, to London Agincourt.
    It's with that kind of thinking that the Conservatives will get back votes from UKIP.

    Labour's poll rating seems to have slipped to 1987's level.
    If the Tories had me in charge, we'd be polling around 60%.

    I remember in the mid 1990s, the French Government complained about Eurostar terminating at Waterloo, and wanting it to be renamed.

    Yes, the country, that has a train station called Gare d'Austerlitz
    Extend it to all our mainline London terminals:

    London Quebec
    London Vitoria
    London Blenheim
    London Crecy
    London Poitiers
  • Sean_F said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    The coin should display two dead Frenchmen, on top of a pile of dead Frenchmen.
    We should also rename London St Pancras, to London Agincourt.
    You do know that France won the Hundred Years War don't you ???

    And we should be thankful that it did and so removed a source of continental dynastic entanglements.

    The battles which should be honoured are those of 1759.
    I do, but Agincourt was awesome.

    David Cameron = Longbow

    Ed Miliband = Crossbow
  • UKPR - Libdems release Hornsey & Woodgreen Constituency Poll

    http://tinyurl.com/njkxzhl

    Lab 37
    LD 36
    Con 15
    Green 7
    UKIP 3
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    edited March 2015
    Newsnight rewriting economic history of the 90's.....
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,808

    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    The coin should display two dead Frenchmen, on top of a pile of dead Frenchmen.
    We should also rename London St Pancras, to London Agincourt.
    It's with that kind of thinking that the Conservatives will get back votes from UKIP.

    Labour's poll rating seems to have slipped to 1987's level.
    If the Tories had me in charge, we'd be polling around 60%.

    I remember in the mid 1990s, the French Government complained about Eurostar terminating at Waterloo, and wanting it to be renamed.

    Yes, the country, that has a train station called Gare d'Austerlitz
    "undermine the unity of the Eurozone"? - you would have to have a heart of stone not to... etc etc.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,996
    BTW the number of French people who have heard of the battle of Agincourt is approximately equal to the number of English people who have heard of the battles of Formigny and Castillon.

  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464

    My other proposal to get the Tories polling 60% plus, in the Tory Manifesto I would write this

    "I David Cameron, promise my EU renegotiation strategy in the next parliament will be based on the Battle of Waterloo. An Eton educated Conservative Prime Minister uniting Europe to give the French a damn good thrashing"

    Merkel = Bluecher?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Sean_F said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    The coin should display two dead Frenchmen, on top of a pile of dead Frenchmen.
    We should also rename London St Pancras, to London Agincourt.
    You do know that France won the Hundred Years War don't you ???

    And we should be thankful that it did and so removed a source of continental dynastic entanglements.

    The battles which should be honoured are those of 1759.
    I do, but Agincourt was awesome.

    David Cameron = Longbow

    Ed Miliband = Crossbow
    Point of order! The crossbow was not crap, but the tactics used by the crossbowmen against the English were.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,372

    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    The coin should display two dead Frenchmen, on top of a pile of dead Frenchmen.
    We should also rename London St Pancras, to London Agincourt.
    It's with that kind of thinking that the Conservatives will get back votes from UKIP.

    Labour's poll rating seems to have slipped to 1987's level.
    If the Tories had me in charge, we'd be polling around 60%.

    I remember in the mid 1990s, the French Government complained about Eurostar terminating at Waterloo, and wanting it to be renamed.

    Yes, the country, that has a train station called Gare d'Austerlitz
    Extend it to all our mainline London terminals:

    London Quebec
    London Vitoria
    London Blenheim
    London Crecy
    London Poitiers
    We should have renamed Waterloo La Belle Alliance and maintained with a straight face it was a reference to the EU.

  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,232

    BTW the number of French people who have heard of the battle of Agincourt is approximately equal to the number of English people who have heard of the battles of Formigny and Castillon.

    Exactly why the Eurostar terminus should be named after it! ;)
  • BTW the number of French people who have heard of the battle of Agincourt is approximately equal to the number of English people who have heard of the battles of Formigny and Castillon.

    I'm aware of them all.

    One of the reasons I learned French, was so I could mock them in their own language.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,742
    Who is likely to become chancellor if the Tories stay on btw ?

  • Sean_F said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    The coin should display two dead Frenchmen, on top of a pile of dead Frenchmen.
    We should also rename London St Pancras, to London Agincourt.
    You do know that France won the Hundred Years War don't you ???

    And we should be thankful that it did and so removed a source of continental dynastic entanglements.

    The battles which should be honoured are those of 1759.
    I do, but Agincourt was awesome.

    David Cameron = Longbow

    Ed Miliband = Crossbow
    Point of order! The crossbow was not crap, but the tactics used by the crossbowmen against the English were.
    I know,

    Also, I would like to point out The Welsh contribution that day as well.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    RobD said:

    I'd be much more worried over this at the BBC:

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/08/bbc-whistleblowers-jimmy-savile

    The whistleblowers who broke the Jimmy Savile story have seen their careers nosedive while executives protect their own status

    To be fair, they could be crap employees.
    The scandal is simply this: the BBC is forcing out or demoting the journalists who exposed Jimmy Savile as a voracious abuser of girls. As Meirion Jones put it to me: “There is a small group of powerful people at the BBC who think it would have been better if the truth about Savile had never come out. And they aim to punish the reporters who revealed it.”
  • Pulpstar said:

    Who is likely to become chancellor if the Tories stay on btw ?

    Ozzy.

    He doesn't want to be Foreign Secretary, and anywhere else is a demotion.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    TGOHF said:

    Blame Labour for Top Gears demise


    @LizKershawDJ: Top Tip for @JeremyClarkson Thinking of generating multi million £££ for the BBC and the UK? Then don't challenge BBC unionised staff

    What's all that about?

    The BBC is understood to have banned all staff from talking about the incident which, unlike Clarkson’s previous gaffes, involves a complaint from another member of staff and could result in a grievance procedure.
  • Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    The coin should display two dead Frenchmen, on top of a pile of dead Frenchmen.
    We should also rename London St Pancras, to London Agincourt.
    It's with that kind of thinking that the Conservatives will get back votes from UKIP.

    Labour's poll rating seems to have slipped to 1987's level.
    If the Tories had me in charge, we'd be polling around 60%.

    I remember in the mid 1990s, the French Government complained about Eurostar terminating at Waterloo, and wanting it to be renamed.

    Yes, the country, that has a train station called Gare d'Austerlitz
    Extend it to all our mainline London terminals:

    London Quebec
    London Vitoria
    London Blenheim
    London Crecy
    London Poitiers
    We should have renamed Waterloo La Belle Alliance and maintained with a straight face it was a reference to the EU.

    Oh for a like button.
  • welshowl said:

    My other proposal to get the Tories polling 60% plus, in the Tory Manifesto I would write this

    "I David Cameron, promise my EU renegotiation strategy in the next parliament will be based on the Battle of Waterloo. An Eton educated Conservative Prime Minister uniting Europe to give the French a damn good thrashing"

    Merkel = Bluecher?
    That works for me.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,742

    Pulpstar said:

    Who is likely to become chancellor if the Tories stay on btw ?

    Ozzy.

    He doesn't want to be Foreign Secretary, and anywhere else is a demotion.
    Let me rephrase, who is likely to be after Ozzy.

    Is my Hammond bet dead ?
  • Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Who is likely to become chancellor if the Tories stay on btw ?

    Ozzy.

    He doesn't want to be Foreign Secretary, and anywhere else is a demotion.
    Let me rephrase, who is likely to be after Ozzy.

    Is my Hammond bet dead ?
    Yup, He's staying on as Foreign Secretary until the referendum (as he's an outer, Dave can't ditch him)

    So after Ozzy, if they maintain their trajectories, I reckon it might be Javid or Hunt.

    Hunt has been quietly impressive as Health Secretary.

    Labour have thrown everything at the NHS this year, and it's resulted in bugger all shifts in VI.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Pulpstar said:

    Who is likely to become chancellor if the Tories stay on btw ?

    I have a slip with Gove at 50/1.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Pulpstar

    No it isn't... it's only resting!
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,372

    I went to the same school as Al Murray and we used to play Dulwich (Farage's school) at Rugby. However Farage is a few years older than Murray so it's unlikely they crossed swords on the playing fields of Eton. Incidentally whenever Al came back to the school some of the Masters had great difficulty in understanding that he was a comedian and wondered what he did for a day job.

    I have difficulty understanding that as well.



  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    I've just had a brilliant idea for what we should put on a £2 coin


    The French government is attempting to block a coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo, claiming it is a “symbol that is negative” and would undermine the unity of the eurozone.

    In an extraordinary intervention, France wants to block plans for a €2 coin to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the historic battle fought by the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815.

    A draft design of the coin was submitted to the Council of the European Union by Belgium, the site of the battle, in February this year.

    However, just days letter France objected to the coin, claiming it could cause “hostile reactions in France” and undermine the eurozone

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11462782/French-try-to-block-Battle-of-Waterloo-coin.html

    The coin should display two dead Frenchmen, on top of a pile of dead Frenchmen.
    We should also rename London St Pancras, to London Agincourt.
    It's with that kind of thinking that the Conservatives will get back votes from UKIP.

    Labour's poll rating seems to have slipped to 1987's level.
    If the Tories had me in charge, we'd be polling around 60%.

    I remember in the mid 1990s, the French Government complained about Eurostar terminating at Waterloo, and wanting it to be renamed.

    Yes, the country, that has a train station called Gare d'Austerlitz
    Extend it to all our mainline London terminals:

    London Quebec
    London Vitoria
    London Blenheim
    London Crecy
    London Poitiers
    We should have renamed Waterloo La Belle Alliance and maintained with a straight face it was a reference to the EU.

    Genius.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,372


    Sun Politics ✔ @SunPolitics

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Tories ahead by two: CON 33%, LAB 31%, LD 8%, UKIP 15%, GRN 6%

    That puts Others on 7% which must be a stonking figure for the SNP.
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