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  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,916
    Hengists I agree

    Malcolm G Ha Ha! A bit far off though, even with retraining etc still only around 35-40% of the population have a degree
  • perdixperdix Posts: 1,806

    ONS (for our new Labour poster)
    73.2% of people aged 16-64 employed in Oct-Dec 2014. A record high http://ow.ly/JJlEC pic.twitter.com/vbZbCyecIf

    "Employed" but...

    Workfare counts as employed but they only get paid their JSA money

    Zero hours counts as employed (thats a million plus) but no guaranteed
    hours (so of course no guarantee of wages)

    Self employed count as employed though many of the newly self employed in
    the last 5 years are simply doing a few hours s/employment just
    to avoid the hassle of the job centre with no real genuine business or
    career prospects

    No wonder the tax take is a disaster area and if the Lib Dems
    harebrained idea to keep on raising the rate at which tax is levied at the bottom continues
    half the country soon wont be paying any tax..no wonder there is
    a black hole in NHS funding and the deficit has barely.come
    down at all in ths last 2 years (most of the fall.in the deficit was
    as a result of the aftermath of Darlings budgets in 09 and 10)

    The poor need to be helped by higher incomes, higher benefits
    and having better public services NOT by being taken out of tax






    I've seen statements that the average "zero hour" worker works about 25 hours a week.

    I've also seen statements that the vast majority are happy with the flexibility this brings to them.

    With a rigid labour market you become like France with twice the unemployment rate.

  • BTW,,,,House of Cards Season 3 is excellent...we have Russian President Putin, I mean Petrov on the scene.

    Please. No spoilers.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited February 2015
    Zero hours counts as employed (thats a million plus) but no guaranteed
    hours (so of course no guarantee of wages)

    No its not....its 600,000 that have a zero hour contract as their main job. The rest use them as a secondary income.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited February 2015
    FFS....Sky reporting "Jihadi John" as a promising undergraduate...no he wasn't, he went to one of the shittest universities in the UK and struggled to get a 2:2.
  • rcs1000 said:

    Dair said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage UKIP would back the Tories deficit reduction plans to ensure the deficit is eliminated by 2018, they would also end ringfencing of overseas aid, axe HS2 and quit the EU
    http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31656700

    Quitting the EU would eliminate a lot of "overseas" aid too, £10bn a year net.
    UKIP apparently want to join EFTA. That would mean they would pay around £15bn to the EU with no rebate.
    What a load of garbage.

    1. UKIP do not want to join EFTA.
    2. Even if they did the cost to the UK would be no where near £15 billion.

    As with so many occasions in the past you show your complete ignorance of the EU.
    If we joined EFTA and paid the same 'toll' as the Norwegians on a per £ of GDP basis, we'd pay a little less than £4bn. If we paid the same on a per person basis, we'd pay about £2.5bn. If we had the Swiss arrangement it would be even less - although that is slightly confused by the Swiss allowing the EU to capture the "common external tariff" on some goods imported into Switzerland via EU ports.
    Thanks Robert. Those were the figures I was working with as well but couldn't check them as I am on train at Newcastle at the moment. Dair really should check his facts before making wild claims
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,471
    edited February 2015
    Haven't been reading much so I don't know if this has already been posted, but this made me laugh:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GflWkDNFRZ4

    Oh, and RIP Leonard Nimoy.
  • Dair said:

    Artist said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage UKIP would back the Tories deficit reduction plans to ensure the deficit is eliminated by 2018.

    http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31656700

    That could put off some Labour tactical voters. The opposite of anti-austerity as you were.
    Dair said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage UKIP would back the Tories deficit reduction plans to ensure the deficit is eliminated by 2018, they would also end ringfencing of overseas aid, axe HS2 and quit the EU
    http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31656700

    Quitting the EU would eliminate a lot of "overseas" aid too, £10bn a year net.
    UKIP apparently want to join EFTA. That would mean they would pay around £15bn to the EU with no rebate.
    Not at the moment they don't:

    From UKIP's website:

    ///,i>– UKIP would not seek to remain in the European Free Trade Area (EFTA) or European Economic Area (EEA) while those treaties maintain a principle of free movement of labour, which prevents the UK managing its own borders.

    http://www.ukip.org/policies_for_people

    So no trade with Europe.

    Hahahaha. They really are a joke.
    And another idiotic post from Dair. Whilst I am in favour of EFTA membership, the idea that without it the EU would throw away the £80 billion balance of payments surplus they enjoy with us is frankly ludicrous.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Dair said:

    Artist said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage UKIP would back the Tories deficit reduction plans to ensure the deficit is eliminated by 2018.

    http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31656700

    That could put off some Labour tactical voters. The opposite of anti-austerity as you were.
    Dair said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage UKIP would back the Tories deficit reduction plans to ensure the deficit is eliminated by 2018, they would also end ringfencing of overseas aid, axe HS2 and quit the EU
    http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31656700

    Quitting the EU would eliminate a lot of "overseas" aid too, £10bn a year net.
    UKIP apparently want to join EFTA. That would mean they would pay around £15bn to the EU with no rebate.
    Not at the moment they don't:

    From UKIP's website:

    ///,i>– UKIP would not seek to remain in the European Free Trade Area (EFTA) or European Economic Area (EEA) while those treaties maintain a principle of free movement of labour, which prevents the UK managing its own borders.

    http://www.ukip.org/policies_for_people

    So no trade with Europe.

    Hahahaha. They really are a joke.
    Its not particularly a question of no trade. There would be trade under the conditions which would be affected by tariffs and quotas. Its anyone's guess how that would work out and if anyone really wants to go down that route they could never predict how it would end.
    The question is one of inward investment where we do very well at the moment and the effect on some of our successful but foreign owned industries like the car industry which could easily be relocated over time. All UKIP has to offer is a trade war - hardly a clever idea for a trading nation. UKIP pretend to offer an end to immigration but the reality is that achieve that they must offer an end to job creation.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    MP_SE said:

    Grauniad having a rant about Nargle Fargle:

    "The Resistible Rise of Arturo Ui.....posing like a movie gangster.....And we should be scared by this photograph.

    "This is a picture of a dangerous man.....It appears on publicity material in the US, where he has gone down like a stormtrooper......Farage has unveiled his inner gangster: the street fighter, the Machiavellian bastard, showing his arrogance and thuggishness....

    "Perhaps it is the real him, the beer hall – sorry, conference hall – rabble rouser.......anyone who underestimates his threat to British decency is a fool.....

    "....a politician who has successfully created a seat-winning British party to the right of the Conservatives. That phrase makes me shudder......a deeply un-British virus, a cancer.


    continued page 94

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/27/resistible-rise-of-nigel-farage-ukip

    The icing on the cake was the journalist implying he was some sort of fascist gangster because he was photographed puffing on a cigar. I have enjoyed many a cigar with people across the political spectrum and I doubt any of them are gangsters or thugs.
    Perhaps you need to grow up. We have already had one comment about a stupid photo of Miliband - taken un posed.
    Here we have a deliberate posed photo for his target audience in America. There is nothing accidental in it. Its pretty crass - and of course for his target 'WWC' audience in the UK it would be a smirk and pint. If there was ever a Farage photo to show what a charlatan he is its that one.

    I would have thought that pictures of Farage in the cosy company of right wing American politicians would go down like a bag of cold sick with lefties and certainly inspire anti UKIP voting strategies.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    HYUFD said:

    Sunil Indeed, and also tighten the immigration laws

    Artist Indeed, but I think if Labour voters are really anti austerity they will vote Labour, or Green or SNP, they are unlikely to vote UKIP, especially if they work in the public sector. Ex Labour voters voting UKIP tend to be be working class and work in the private sector or are retired, immigration and the EU are the main issues for them, I doubt they will be too concerned about slashing overseas aid and ending HS2 either

    'Anti Austerity' is just code for 'Socialism'. Or the same thing put another way ' refusal to live within your means'.
    Such a policy stripped down to its realities would have a predictable effect on the markets, both local and international.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012

    Speedy said:

    Bugger. Really sad about Leonard Nimoy. A real pioneer in TV Sci Fi.

    RIP.

    He was a very good actor but unfortunately he was typecast as Dr.Spock.
    RIP
    He played a villain in Columbo once :)
    He played 'Paris' in Mission Impossible for several seasons, using a whole range of characters and disguises. I don't think he was particularly typecast as 'Mr' Spock. I imagine he had a pretty busy career as an actor, writer and director - stage and screen. He did direct one of the better Star Trek movies and 'Three Men and a Little Lady'
  • calumcalum Posts: 3,046

    Speedy said:

    Bugger. Really sad about Leonard Nimoy. A real pioneer in TV Sci Fi.

    RIP.

    He was a very good actor but unfortunately he was typecast as Dr.Spock.
    RIP
    He played a villain in Columbo once :)
    He played 'Paris' in Mission Impossible for several seasons, using a whole range of characters and disguises. I don't think he was particularly typecast as 'Mr' Spock. I imagine he had a pretty busy career as an actor, writer and director - stage and screen. He did direct one of the better Star Trek movies and 'Three Men and a Little Lady'
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