Ed Miliband said it himself that 75% of students wont repay their student loan....so by cutting fees to £6000, he is giving a tax cut to the 25% who will benefited the most from their uni education. Seems a bit of the wrong way around to me.
The Times sure seems to have it in for Christie though.
Sorry, wasn't around yesterday. Yes, the NYT will have it in for any GOP candidate who they fear could compete with Hillary in the GE. It is entirely partisan in that respect.
But it is a very valid point that Christie shot to fame as someone to take on the unions and fix the budget problems arising from pensions and mandated benefits and that now that storyline is falling apart, particularly as Walker has risen with a far more compelling version of the same story AND has strong real conservative credentials. It perhaps makes Walker less attractive in the GE, but makes it a lot more likely that he can prevail in the primaries.
The politics of Ed's announcement are a bit odd. If we assume for the sake of argument that the tax-increase side is correct, i.e. that they could raise £3bn from their pension raid, then spending that money on reducing the contribution which well-off graduates will in the future have to make to their university education is an interesting priority at a time of tough spending decisions.
By being one, do I really constantly have to remind people on here about how idiots see this?
We are lowering the cost of going to University. For poorer people. For young, poorer people.
Ta-daaarh!
You can take your Mr Lewises and your fiscal implications and your marginal tax rates and your propensity to earn and stick them where the sun don't shine.
The politics of Ed's announcement are a bit odd. If we assume for the sake of argument that the tax-increase side is correct, i.e. that they could raise £3bn from their pension raid, then spending that money on reducing the contribution which well-off graduates will in the future have to make to their university education is an interesting priority at a time of tough spending decisions.
I think they are relying on people not doing the math.
Essentially, they are raiding the well-off for up to £3bn
They are spending it on something nice and fluffy that they hope will win them votes.
But the "spending" doesn't actually cost them anything new in cash terms...which in their mad world allows them to spend it again on something else that is nice and fluffy.
So when I edit PB, does this give me an excuse to embed pictures of pretty ladies in hot pants?
The Producers sounds like a play with a very poor taste theme. Doubt it'll do very well at the box office - wouldn't like to be a backer of it personally.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?
After 33 previews, the original Broadway production opened at the St. James Theatre on April 19, 2001, starring Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, and ran for 2,502 performances, winning a record-breaking 12 Tony Awards.
So what you're saying is that despite the poor taste theme about nazis, The Producers did much better than Pulpstar suggested and didn't lose its backers money after all? How unexpected, somebody should write a play about that!
Hurrah !
Hey, you kids must be very young!
Anybody of my generation will remember Mel Brookes' film as one of the funniest and most cutting comedies ever to hit the silver screen. (It was made in 1968 and yes it was a Talkie.)
If you haven't seen it, just get a copy and watch. You won't regret it.
Was remade as a musical film in 2005. Brooks was screenwriter and song-writer
@Charles "Essentially, they are raiding the well-off for up to £3bn" How very dare they, Money should come from the bottom! How much is Ozzie going to cut the social security budget by?
Ros Altmann@rosaltmann·14m14 minutes ago Calcns used for final salary-type pensions allow members £50kpa pension (20x£50k=£1m) but DC members need £2m for £50k jtlife infln annuity
Labour doing exactly the same thing Osborne did to the private sector once again.
Doesn't make it right.
It's just a less partisan way of putting it.
Yes but it is fair to be a partisan point as it's a cut not proposed by the Tories but by Labour and to a level even worse than that set by the blues. The gesture politics on the £150k thing is just bollocks.
The politics of Ed's announcement are a bit odd. If we assume for the sake of argument that the tax-increase side is correct, i.e. that they could raise £3bn from their pension raid, then spending that money on reducing the contribution which well-off graduates will in the future have to make to their university education is an interesting priority at a time of tough spending decisions.
By being one, do I really constantly have to remind people on here about how idiots see this?
We are lowering the cost of going to University. For poorer people. For young, poorer people.
Ta-daaarh!
You can take your Mr Lewises and your fiscal implications and your marginal tax rates and your propensity to earn and stick them where the sun don't shine.
You suggesting idiots vote for Labour ?
First, yes.
Secondly, I am making the subsidiary point that the Great British Public scrutinise and analyse such policies for about 1/1,000,000,000th of a moment. And it's the headlines that matter.
UK management does not understand intellectual property rights very well. When I started at Sony it was the same with Japanese management, it has been drilled into them over the last few years how important protecting company IP is from predatory companies like Apple in jurisdictions where prior art has become meaningless (the US) so it's comforting to see Japan higher up the list than what I remember in 2009. Sony specifically is very good at exploiting its vast patent portfolio but that is a recent development based on practices in SCA rolled out to the rest of the company.
I just hope that BIS does the same as the Japanese commerce department and drills UK management on the importance of IP rights and filing early and often.
The politics of Ed's announcement are a bit odd. If we assume for the sake of argument that the tax-increase side is correct, i.e. that they could raise £3bn from their pension raid, then spending that money on reducing the contribution which well-off graduates will in the future have to make to their university education is an interesting priority at a time of tough spending decisions.
By being one, do I really constantly have to remind people on here about how idiots see this?
We are lowering the cost of going to University. For poorer people. For young, poorer people.
Ta-daaarh!
You can take your Mr Lewises and your fiscal implications and your marginal tax rates and your propensity to earn and stick them where the sun don't shine.
You suggesting idiots vote for Labour ?
First, yes.
Secondly, I am making the subsidiary point that the Great British Public scrutinise and analyse such policies for about 1/1,000,000,000th of a moment. And it's the headlines that matter.
I don't disagree, but it is interested despite the massive misrepresentation of what the current system involved at the time of its introduction, with huge amount of shouting about screwing the poor...it seems that the message of how it actually works has got through to all students, and not least ones from poorer backgrounds i.e. you are only actually going to pay back based upon you future success and there is no upfront fee.
However, I am sure this new wheeze will get equally poor reporting and all we will hear is fee cut, fee cut...
@Pulpstar I have no idea about the content, but the cast list looks interesting?
If you have never seen The Producers, you simply must. It's a truly brilliant comedy.
Amongst its many virtues is the ruthlessness with which it kicks political correctness into the long grass and stamps it mercilessly into the dirt.
I don't remember that bit
I don't know how you can forget such deathless lines as:
"Don't be dumb, be a smarty Come and join the Nazi Party"
Lethal.
Hitler screaming "I just want a little peace..."
"A little piece of Poland, a little piece of France...."
Sadly, one has to be a little careful quoting some of these glorious lines. Taken out of context, they can sound dreadful, but of course in context the deliciousness of the irony is exquisite.
So when I edit PB, does this give me an excuse to embed pictures of pretty ladies in hot pants?
The Producers sounds like a play with a very poor taste theme. Doubt it'll do very well at the box office - wouldn't like to be a backer of it personally.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?
After 33 previews, the original Broadway production opened at the St. James Theatre on April 19, 2001, starring Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, and ran for 2,502 performances, winning a record-breaking 12 Tony Awards.
So what you're saying is that despite the poor taste theme about nazis, The Producers did much better than Pulpstar suggested and didn't lose its backers money after all? How unexpected, somebody should write a play about that!
Hurrah !
Hey, you kids must be very young!
Anybody of my generation will remember Mel Brookes' film as one of the funniest and most cutting comedies ever to hit the silver screen. (It was made in 1968 and yes it was a Talkie.)
If you haven't seen it, just get a copy and watch. You won't regret it.
Was remade as a musical film in 2005. Brooks was screenwriter and song-writer
The original was so good I would never watch the remake.
"Spring time, for Hitler and Germany. Deutschland is happy and gay"
"Spring time, for Hitler and Germany. Winter for Poland and France" ...
But a system based on the assumption that half the stated debt will never be paid back is essentially dumb in an entirely non-political way.
Why? It's just a question of terminology. If you call it (as Martin Lewis sensibly suggests) a 'high-earning graduate contribution', it makes good sense.
I understood we already had a system whereby high earning graduates made a contibutiuon. It's called higher rate taxation and goes up to 45% of salary.
Why should people under 25 have to pay this tax and further 9% ?
@FrancisUrquhart "you are only actually going to pay back based upon you future success"
The Tories brought in an anti aspirational system?
No that would be a perpetual graduate tax, the current system is a capped graduate tax with the cap set at around £45,000. Given that most will only pay back £27-30k of their loan amount Ed is proposing a tax cut for the richest graduates. It literally makes no sense from a leftist point of view.
But a system based on the assumption that half the stated debt will never be paid back is essentially dumb in an entirely non-political way.
Why? It's just a question of terminology. If you call it (as Martin Lewis sensibly suggests) a 'high-earning graduate contribution', it makes good sense.
I understood we already had a system whereby high earning graduates made a contibutiuon. It's called higher rate taxation and goes up to 45% of salary.
Why should people under 25 have to pay this tax and further 9% ?
Because they're benefiting from a university education.
New Labour introduced the crackpot "50%" target. And noone has the heart or sense to get rid of it.
The politics of Ed's announcement are a bit odd. If we assume for the sake of argument that the tax-increase side is correct, i.e. that they could raise £3bn from their pension raid, then spending that money on reducing the contribution which well-off graduates will in the future have to make to their university education is an interesting priority at a time of tough spending decisions.
By being one, do I really constantly have to remind people on here about how idiots see this?
We are lowering the cost of going to University. For poorer people. For young, poorer people.
Ta-daaarh!
You can take your Mr Lewises and your fiscal implications and your marginal tax rates and your propensity to earn and stick them where the sun don't shine.
You suggesting idiots vote for Labour ?
First, yes.
Secondly, I am making the subsidiary point that the Great British Public scrutinise and analyse such policies for about 1/1,000,000,000th of a moment. And it's the headlines that matter.
I don't disagree, but it is interested despite the massive misrepresentation of what the current system involved at the time of its introduction, with huge amount of shouting about screwing the poor...it seems that the message of how it actually works has got through to all students, and not least ones from poorer backgrounds i.e. you are only actually going to pay back based upon you future success and there is no upfront fee.
However, I am sure this new wheeze will get equally poor reporting and all we will hear is fee cut, fee cut...
I think a bold move by GO (and not possible right at this moment) is to reduce the thresholds of salary for payback. He has in effect created an ATM and can draw it down when the Cons' political capital is a bit stronger.
"Why should high-earning graduates with good jobs be exempt from sharing the burden...etc..etc"
Would infuriate Cons supporters (ie whose children are due to become those high-earners) but might be smart politics at the right time.
So when I edit PB, does this give me an excuse to embed pictures of pretty ladies in hot pants?
The Producers sounds like a play with a very poor taste theme. Doubt it'll do very well at the box office - wouldn't like to be a backer of it personally.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?
After 33 previews, the original Broadway production opened at the St. James Theatre on April 19, 2001, starring Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, and ran for 2,502 performances, winning a record-breaking 12 Tony Awards.
So what you're saying is that despite the poor taste theme about nazis, The Producers did much better than Pulpstar suggested and didn't lose its backers money after all? How unexpected, somebody should write a play about that!
Hurrah !
Hey, you kids must be very young!
Anybody of my generation will remember Mel Brookes' film as one of the funniest and most cutting comedies ever to hit the silver screen. (It was made in 1968 and yes it was a Talkie.)
If you haven't seen it, just get a copy and watch. You won't regret it.
Was remade as a musical film in 2005. Brooks was screenwriter and song-writer
See the original if you can.
There is one shot in which the camera pans along the front row of the mortified audience watching the appalling production. They are all slack-jawed in horror at what they are seeing on the stage, until you get to the writer himself dressed in full Nazi regalia and wearing a tin-hat and broad grin.
Ros Altmann@rosaltmann·14m14 minutes ago Calcns used for final salary-type pensions allow members £50kpa pension (20x£50k=£1m) but DC members need £2m for £50k jtlife infln annuity
Yeah I thought there was some sleight of hand there. So assuming Ms Altmann's right (she usually is!) if you've been saving diligently to a DC scheme for decades, Ed's intending to disadvantage you compared to DB schemes, which are virtually all in the public sector of course because Govts of all stripes have made life so ridiculously complex and expensive that they've ceased to exist in the private sector.
Just like brother Gordon he can't help himself when faced with the temptation of other people's savings.
However mad our tuition fees policy and its (non) repayment is - it's only a fraction of the insanity in the USA, simply becasue uni is WAY more expensive there. The student debt bubble is approaching bank / credit bubble in size and it is seriously non performing.
Here a hardworking student can work part time (pulling pints in the evening, as an Uber driver, zero hours contractor or whatever) and eat a big chunk out of their student loan as they go. It is possible to get a debt free degree.
But a system based on the assumption that half the stated debt will never be paid back is essentially dumb in an entirely non-political way.
Why? It's just a question of terminology. If you call it (as Martin Lewis sensibly suggests) a 'high-earning graduate contribution', it makes good sense.
I understood we already had a system whereby high earning graduates made a contibutiuon. It's called higher rate taxation and goes up to 45% of salary.
Why should people under 25 have to pay this tax and further 9% ?
Because they're benefiting from a university education.
New Labour introduced the crackpot "50%" target. And noone has the heart or sense to get rid of it.
How can that be, Cameron has been taking tough decisions for 5 years now ?
So when I edit PB, does this give me an excuse to embed pictures of pretty ladies in hot pants?
The Producers sounds like a play with a very poor taste theme. Doubt it'll do very well at the box office - wouldn't like to be a backer of it personally.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?
After 33 previews, the original Broadway production opened at the St. James Theatre on April 19, 2001, starring Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, and ran for 2,502 performances, winning a record-breaking 12 Tony Awards.
So what you're saying is that despite the poor taste theme about nazis, The Producers did much better than Pulpstar suggested and didn't lose its backers money after all? How unexpected, somebody should write a play about that!
Hurrah !
Hey, you kids must be very young!
Anybody of my generation will remember Mel Brookes' film as one of the funniest and most cutting comedies ever to hit the silver screen. (It was made in 1968 and yes it was a Talkie.)
If you haven't seen it, just get a copy and watch. You won't regret it.
Was remade as a musical film in 2005. Brooks was screenwriter and song-writer
See the original if you can.
There is one shot in which the camera pans along the front row of the mortified audience watching the appalling production. They are all slack-jawed in horror at what they are seeing on the stage, until you get to the writer himself dressed in full Nazi regalia and wearing a tin-hat and broad grin.
One of the great pan shots of all time.
PtP I posted the link to the video of that song and the pan shot below.
Douglas Carswell MP@DouglasCarswell · 2h 2 hours ago They might sneer in SW1. But in Thanet, Ukip has an 11 point lead .....
Or maybe not.
Andrew Cooper @AndrewCooper__ The Survation poll in S.Thanet showing Farage ahead says nearly twice as many people voted UKIP there in 2010 as actually did #roguepoll Retweeted by Stephen Tall
But a system based on the assumption that half the stated debt will never be paid back is essentially dumb in an entirely non-political way.
Why? It's just a question of terminology. If you call it (as Martin Lewis sensibly suggests) a 'high-earning graduate contribution', it makes good sense.
I understood we already had a system whereby high earning graduates made a contibutiuon. It's called higher rate taxation and goes up to 45% of salary.
Why should people under 25 have to pay this tax and further 9% ?
Because they're benefiting from a university education.
New Labour introduced the crackpot "50%" target. And noone has the heart or sense to get rid of it.
Shame no one taught you that no one can be hyphenated but that it is never one word.
@Charles "Essentially, they are raiding the well-off for up to £3bn" How very dare they, Money should come from the bottom! How much is Ozzie going to cut the social security budget by?
The point is it's in the State's interest to encourage the virtuous behaviour of pension saving so as not to be a burden on the self same State in future decades. Both main parties (yes the Tories screwed up on this in the 80's by not allowing pensions to be overfunded as it might be seen as tax avoidance), but especially Labour under Blair and Brown (and now probably Ed) have made this virtuous activity ever more difficult as they keep putting their sticky fingers in for money in the here and now for whatever the latest pet cause is.
@MaxPB Very little of what governments do makes much sense. A governments main function is to gain and retain power.
But Ed Miliband isn't in government and this proposal goes against everything Labour stands for. The current loan/capped tax system is quite progressive so the richest graduates pay back the most money and the lower earners don't. The headlines are surely not worth giving lawyers, dentists, doctors and bankers a £15,000 tax cut?
It's a lot like Labour introducing tax credits for working people. It is state sponsored corporate subsidisation of low wages. It makes no sense to let companies off the hook so they can get away with paying less than a real living wage.
Douglas Carswell MP@DouglasCarswell · 2h 2 hours ago They might sneer in SW1. But in Thanet, Ukip has an 11 point lead .....
Or maybe not.
Andrew Cooper @AndrewCooper__ The Survation poll in S.Thanet showing Farage ahead says nearly twice as many people voted UKIP there in 2010 as actually did #roguepoll Retweeted by Stephen Tall
Is that Populus boy and Tory stooge Andrew Cooper (recently made Lord Cooper of Windrush courtesy of David Cameron) by any chance that is casting aspersions on Survation's polling methods?
@MaxPB Not in government = try to gain power In government = try to retain power Any useful laws and acts are merely a coincidence of trying to solve the above. It is of course insane, but it is what we get.
The polls are not reliable since we have not really been in this situation before (Con-LiB coalition), looking at real results it does not look like Labour are making enough head way. They should be ahead in local by-elections even if Labour voters don't normally turnout if the government isn't being decided.
@MaxPB Not in government = try to gain power In government = try to retain power Any useful laws and acts are merely a coincidence of trying to solve the above. It is of course insane, but it is what we get.
But I thought Miliband was a man of great principle....not like all those other politicians that just want power?
@MaxPB Not in government = try to gain power In government = try to retain power Any useful laws and acts are merely a coincidence of trying to solve the above. It is of course insane, but it is what we get.
I'm not arguing against that point, the system is highly flawed, what I am saying is I don't understand Ed giving rich graduates a £15k tax cut. It goes against everything both he and Labour stand for. Even the smallest amount of critical thinking and people will realise that this is a regressive policy.
@Charles "Essentially, they are raiding the well-off for up to £3bn" How very dare they, Money should come from the bottom! How much is Ozzie going to cut the social security budget by?
The point is it's in the State's interest to encourage the virtuous behaviour of pension saving so as not to be a burden on the self same State in future decades. Both main parties (yes the Tories screwed up on this in the 80's by not allowing pensions to be overfunded as it might be seen as tax avoidance), but especially Labour under Blair and Brown (and now probably Ed) have made this virtuous activity ever more difficult as they keep putting their sticky fingers in for money in the here and now for whatever the latest pet cause is.
As Miliband himself said, this idea is only for the manifesto and will be re-examined later. Read into that what you will.
Regardless, it does increasingly look as if most pensions are for mugs.
@Charles "Essentially, they are raiding the well-off for up to £3bn" How very dare they, Money should come from the bottom! How much is Ozzie going to cut the social security budget by?
So when I edit PB, does this give me an excuse to embed pictures of pretty ladies in hot pants?
The Producers sounds like a play with a very poor taste theme. Doubt it'll do very well at the box office - wouldn't like to be a backer of it personally.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?
After 33 previews, the original Broadway production opened at the St. James Theatre on April 19, 2001, starring Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, and ran for 2,502 performances, winning a record-breaking 12 Tony Awards.
So what you're saying is that despite the poor taste theme about nazis, The Producers did much better than Pulpstar suggested and didn't lose its backers money after all? How unexpected, somebody should write a play about that!
Hurrah !
Hey, you kids must be very young!
Anybody of my generation will remember Mel Brookes' film as one of the funniest and most cutting comedies ever to hit the silver screen. (It was made in 1968 and yes it was a Talkie.)
If you haven't seen it, just get a copy and watch. You won't regret it.
Was remade as a musical film in 2005. Brooks was screenwriter and song-writer
See the original if you can.
There is one shot in which the camera pans along the front row of the mortified audience watching the appalling production. They are all slack-jawed in horror at what they are seeing on the stage, until you get to the writer himself dressed in full Nazi regalia and wearing a tin-hat and broad grin.
One of the great pan shots of all time.
PtP I posted the link to the video of that song and the pan shot below.
Thanks Tim. Just watch it and found it just as funny as ever.
So when I edit PB, does this give me an excuse to embed pictures of pretty ladies in hot pants?
The Producers sounds like a play with a very poor taste theme. Doubt it'll do very well at the box office - wouldn't like to be a backer of it personally.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?
After 33 previews, the original Broadway production opened at the St. James Theatre on April 19, 2001, starring Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, and ran for 2,502 performances, winning a record-breaking 12 Tony Awards.
So what you're saying is that despite the poor taste theme about nazis, The Producers did much better than Pulpstar suggested and didn't lose its backers money after all? How unexpected, somebody should write a play about that!
Hurrah !
Hey, you kids must be very young!
Anybody of my generation will remember Mel Brookes' film as one of the funniest and most cutting comedies ever to hit the silver screen. (It was made in 1968 and yes it was a Talkie.)
If you haven't seen it, just get a copy and watch. You won't regret it.
Was remade as a musical film in 2005. Brooks was screenwriter and song-writer
See the original if you can.
There is one shot in which the camera pans along the front row of the mortified audience watching the appalling production. They are all slack-jawed in horror at what they are seeing on the stage, until you get to the writer himself dressed in full Nazi regalia and wearing a tin-hat and broad grin.
One of the great pan shots of all time.
There's also a great Busby Berkeley-type shot from the air of all the dancers whirling round in the shape of a black Swastika.
The Nazi girls in the photograph look rather attractive. Some delegates must be getting hot under the collar.
But a system based on the assumption that half the stated debt will never be paid back is essentially dumb in an entirely non-political way.
Why? It's just a question of terminology. If you call it (as Martin Lewis sensibly suggests) a 'high-earning graduate contribution', it makes good sense.
I understood we already had a system whereby high earning graduates made a contibutiuon. It's called higher rate taxation and goes up to 45% of salary.
Why should people under 25 have to pay this tax and further 9% ?
Because they're benefiting from a university education.
New Labour introduced the crackpot "50%" target. And noone has the heart or sense to get rid of it.
Shame no one taught you that no one can be hyphenated but that it is never one word.
Your second "no one" should be in quotation marks, and "noöne" is legitimate though old-fashioned.
Douglas Carswell MP@DouglasCarswell · 2h 2 hours ago They might sneer in SW1. But in Thanet, Ukip has an 11 point lead .....
Or maybe not.
Andrew Cooper @AndrewCooper__ The Survation poll in S.Thanet showing Farage ahead says nearly twice as many people voted UKIP there in 2010 as actually did #roguepoll Retweeted by Stephen Tall
Is that Populus boy and Tory stooge Andrew Cooper (recently made Lord Cooper of Windrush courtesy of David Cameron) by any chance that is casting aspersions on Survation's polling methods?
Douglas Carswell MP@DouglasCarswell · 2h 2 hours ago They might sneer in SW1. But in Thanet, Ukip has an 11 point lead .....
Or maybe not.
Andrew Cooper @AndrewCooper__ The Survation poll in S.Thanet showing Farage ahead says nearly twice as many people voted UKIP there in 2010 as actually did #roguepoll Retweeted by Stephen Tall
Is that Populus boy and Tory stooge Andrew Cooper (recently made Lord Cooper of Windrush courtesy of David Cameron) by any chance that is casting aspersions on Survation's polling methods?
Dog fight in the polling industry?
Populus mostly give Labour leads (apart from the odd tie, like Monday).
Douglas Carswell MP@DouglasCarswell · 2h 2 hours ago They might sneer in SW1. But in Thanet, Ukip has an 11 point lead .....
Or maybe not.
Andrew Cooper @AndrewCooper__ The Survation poll in S.Thanet showing Farage ahead says nearly twice as many people voted UKIP there in 2010 as actually did #roguepoll Retweeted by Stephen Tall
Is that Populus boy and Tory stooge Andrew Cooper (recently made Lord Cooper of Windrush courtesy of David Cameron) by any chance that is casting aspersions on Survation's polling methods?
Dog fight in the polling industry?
Who paid for the Thanet poll ?
It's no secret Alan Bown did.(its all over the Survation web release of it)......
So when I edit PB, does this give me an excuse to embed pictures of pretty ladies in hot pants?
The Producers sounds like a play with a very poor taste theme. Doubt it'll do very well at the box office - wouldn't like to be a backer of it personally.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?
After 33 previews, the original Broadway production opened at the St. James Theatre on April 19, 2001, starring Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, and ran for 2,502 performances, winning a record-breaking 12 Tony Awards.
So what you're saying is that despite the poor taste theme about nazis, The Producers did much better than Pulpstar suggested and didn't lose its backers money after all? How unexpected, somebody should write a play about that!
Hurrah !
Hey, you kids must be very young!
Anybody of my generation will remember Mel Brookes' film as one of the funniest and most cutting comedies ever to hit the silver screen. (It was made in 1968 and yes it was a Talkie.)
If you haven't seen it, just get a copy and watch. You won't regret it.
Was remade as a musical film in 2005. Brooks was screenwriter and song-writer
See the original if you can.
There is one shot in which the camera pans along the front row of the mortified audience watching the appalling production. They are all slack-jawed in horror at what they are seeing on the stage, until you get to the writer himself dressed in full Nazi regalia and wearing a tin-hat and broad grin.
One of the great pan shots of all time.
The Nazi girls in the photograph look rather attractive. Some delegates must be getting hot under the collar.
I also thought that about the kipper's in attendance. Hope they have CPR machines near to hand?
So, what if Osborne stands up at budget and announces the same higher tax payer changes ( or similar) but that the money saved is either used for the defecit or for a tax cut for middle incomes? Can Labour stick with a policy for low voters or folk who are 75%+ chance of voting.
So when I edit PB, does this give me an excuse to embed pictures of pretty ladies in hot pants?
The Producers sounds like a play with a very poor taste theme. Doubt it'll do very well at the box office - wouldn't like to be a backer of it personally.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?
After 33 previews, the original Broadway production opened at the St. James Theatre on April 19, 2001, starring Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, and ran for 2,502 performances, winning a record-breaking 12 Tony Awards.
Soa pans along the front row of the mortified audience watching the appalling production. They are all slack-jawed in horror at what they are seeing on the stage, until you get to the writer himself dressed in full Nazi regalia and wearing a tin-hat and broad grin.
One of the great pan shots of all time.
There's also a great Busby Berkeley-type shot from the air of all the dancers whirling round in the shape of a black Swastika.
The Nazi girls in the photograph look rather attractive. Some delegates must be getting hot under the collar.
Sure you're right, Sean, but then how many of them will have seen me in my thigh-high boots?
So when I edit PB, does this give me an excuse to embed pictures of pretty ladies in hot pants?
The Producers sounds like a play with a very poor taste theme. Doubt it'll do very well at the box office - wouldn't like to be a backer of it personally.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?
After 33 previews, the original Broadway production opened at the St. James Theatre on April 19, 2001, starring Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, and ran for 2,502 performances, winning a record-breaking 12 Tony Awards.
So what you're saying is that despite the poor taste theme about nazis, The Producers did much better than Pulpstar suggested and didn't lose its backers money after all? How unexpected, somebody should write a play about that!
Hurrah !
Hey, you kids must be very young!
Anybody of my generation will remember Mel Brookes' film as one of the funniest and most cutting comedies ever to hit the silver screen. (It was made in 1968 and yes it was a Talkie.)
If you haven't seen it, just get a copy and watch. You won't regret it.
Was remade as a musical film in 2005. Brooks was screenwriter and song-writer
See the original if you can.
There is one shot in which the camera pans along the front row of the mortified audience watching the appalling production. They are all slack-jawed in horror at what they are seeing on the stage, until you get to the writer himself dressed in full Nazi regalia and wearing a tin-hat and broad grin.
One of the great pan shots of all time.
The Nazi girls in the photograph look rather attractive. Some delegates must be getting hot under the collar.
I also thought that about the kipper's in attendance. Hope they have CPR machines near to hand?
Helmer's probably asked one for a cheeky massage. And received a slap.
So, what if Osborne stands up at budget and announces the same higher tax payer changes ( or similar) but that the money saved is either used for the defecit or for a tax cut for middle incomes? Can Labour stick with a policy for low voters or folk who are 75%+ chance of voting.
When Darling did something similar with Inheritance Tax, it didnt really come out as a masterstroke. It just looked desperate and a bit me-too..
Douglas Carswell MP@DouglasCarswell · 2h 2 hours ago They might sneer in SW1. But in Thanet, Ukip has an 11 point lead .....
Or maybe not.
Andrew Cooper @AndrewCooper__ The Survation poll in S.Thanet showing Farage ahead says nearly twice as many people voted UKIP there in 2010 as actually did #roguepoll Retweeted by Stephen Tall
Is that Populus boy and Tory stooge Andrew Cooper (recently made Lord Cooper of Windrush courtesy of David Cameron) by any chance that is casting aspersions on Survation's polling methods?
Dog fight in the polling industry?
Populus mostly give Labour leads (apart from the odd tie, like Monday).
So what is the relevance of that. Did I even mention Populus's polls?
So when I edit PB, does this give me an excuse to embed pictures of pretty ladies in hot pants?
The Producers sounds like a play with a very poor taste theme. Doubt it'll do very well at the box office - wouldn't like to be a backer of it personally.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?
After 33 previews, the original Broadway production opened at the St. James Theatre on April 19, 2001, starring Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, and ran for 2,502 performances, winning a record-breaking 12 Tony Awards.
So what you're saying is that despite the poor taste theme about nazis, The Producers did much better than Pulpstar suggested and didn't lose its backers money after all? How unexpected, somebody should write a play about that!
Hurrah !
Hey, you kids must be very young!
Anybody of my generation will remember Mel Brookes' film as one of the funniest and most cutting comedies ever to hit the silver screen. (It was made in 1968 and yes it was a Talkie.)
If you haven't seen it, just get a copy and watch. You won't regret it.
Was remade as a musical film in 2005. Brooks was screenwriter and song-writer
See the original if you can.
There is one shot in which the camera pans along the front row of the mortified audience watching the appalling production. They are all slack-jawed in horror at what they are seeing on the stage, until you get to the writer himself dressed in full Nazi regalia and wearing a tin-hat and broad grin.
One of the great pan shots of all time.
The Nazi girls in the photograph look rather attractive. Some delegates must be getting hot under the collar.
I also thought that about the kipper's in attendance. Hope they have CPR machines near to hand?
Helmer's probably asked one for a cheeky massage. And received a slap.
Douglas Carswell MP@DouglasCarswell · 2h 2 hours ago They might sneer in SW1. But in Thanet, Ukip has an 11 point lead .....
Or maybe not.
Andrew Cooper @AndrewCooper__ The Survation poll in S.Thanet showing Farage ahead says nearly twice as many people voted UKIP there in 2010 as actually did #roguepoll Retweeted by Stephen Tall
Is that Populus boy and Tory stooge Andrew Cooper (recently made Lord Cooper of Windrush courtesy of David Cameron) by any chance that is casting aspersions on Survation's polling methods?
Dog fight in the polling industry?
Populus mostly give Labour leads (apart from the odd tie, like Monday).
Strangely, they haven't put the Conservatives ahead since August, when, in general, they were giving Labour bigger leads.
So when I edit PB, does this give me an excuse to embed pictures of pretty ladies in hot pants?
The Producers sounds like a play with a very poor taste theme. Doubt it'll do very well at the box office - wouldn't like to be a backer of it personally.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?
After 33 previews, the original Broadway production opened at the St. James Theatre on April 19, 2001, starring Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, and ran for 2,502 performances, winning a record-breaking 12 Tony Awards.
So what you're saying is that despite the poor taste theme about nazis, The Producers did much better than Pulpstar suggested and didn't lose its backers money after all? How unexpected, somebody should write a play about that!
Hurrah !
Hey, you kids must be very young!
Anybody of my generation will remember Mel Brookes' film as one of the funniest and most cutting comedies ever to hit the silver screen. (It was made in 1968 and yes it was a Talkie.)
If you haven't seen it, just get a copy and watch. You won't regret it.
Was remade as a musical film in 2005. Brooks was screenwriter and song-writer
See the original if you can.
There is one shot in which the camera pans along the front row of the mortified audience watching the appalling production. They are all slack-jawed in horror at what they are seeing on the stage, until you get to the writer himself dressed in full Nazi regalia and wearing a tin-hat and broad grin.
One of the great pan shots of all time.
The Nazi girls in the photograph look rather attractive. Some delegates must be getting hot under the collar.
I also thought that about the kipper's in attendance. Hope they have CPR machines near to hand?
Helmer's probably asked one for a cheeky massage. And received a slap.
@DPJHodges: Comres poll for ITV News. 44% of people believe Ukip is a racist party.
Did it indicate how many of those thought it a good thing?
It is rather similar to the Com Res numbers who say that UKIP have the best policy on immigration.
Back on topic (kind of) and Mike's picture of the Producers girls, I should think the publicity will do the Kippers no harm at all.
UKIP has a massive advantage over the other Parties in respect of its ability to take a joke, and laugh at itself at times. If anybody seriously thought they were the National Socialists in disguise, it wouldn't be funny. They aren't, so it is.
So when I edit PB, does this give me an excuse to embed pictures of pretty ladies in hot pants?
The Producers sounds like a play with a very poor taste theme. Doubt it'll do very well at the box office - wouldn't like to be a backer of it personally.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?
After 33 previews, the original Broadway production opened at the St. James Theatre on April 19, 2001, starring Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, and ran for 2,502 performances, winning a record-breaking 12 Tony Awards.
So what you're saying is that despite the poor taste theme about nazis, The Producers did much better than Pulpstar suggested and didn't lose its backers money after all? How unexpected, somebody should write a play about that!
Hurrah !
Hey, you kids must be very young!
Anybody of my generation will remember Mel Brookes' film as one of the funniest and most cutting comedies ever to hit the silver screen. (It was made in 1968 and yes it was a Talkie.)
If you haven't seen it, just get a copy and watch. You won't regret it.
Was remade as a musical film in 2005. Brooks was screenwriter and song-writer
See the original if you can.
There is one shot in which the camera pans along the front row of the mortified audience watching the appalling production. They are all slack-jawed in horror at what they are seeing on the stage, until you get to the writer himself dressed in full Nazi regalia and wearing a tin-hat and broad grin.
One of the great pan shots of all time.
The Nazi girls in the photograph look rather attractive. Some delegates must be getting hot under the collar.
I also thought that about the kipper's in attendance. Hope they have CPR machines near to hand?
Helmer's probably asked one for a cheeky massage. And received a slap.
Springtime for Farage?
Springtime for Farage: A Gay Romp with Nigel and Suzanne at Margate
So when I edit PB, does this give me an excuse to embed pictures of pretty ladies in hot pants?
The Producers sounds like a play with a very poor taste theme. Doubt it'll do very well at the box office - wouldn't like to be a backer of it personally.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?
After 33 previews, the original Broadway production opened at the St. James Theatre on April 19, 2001, starring Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, and ran for 2,502 performances, winning a record-breaking 12 Tony Awards.
Douglas Carswell MP@DouglasCarswell · 2h 2 hours ago They might sneer in SW1. But in Thanet, Ukip has an 11 point lead .....
Or maybe not.
Andrew Cooper @AndrewCooper__ The Survation poll in S.Thanet showing Farage ahead says nearly twice as many people voted UKIP there in 2010 as actually did #roguepoll Retweeted by Stephen Tall
Is that Populus boy and Tory stooge Andrew Cooper (recently made Lord Cooper of Windrush courtesy of David Cameron) by any chance that is casting aspersions on Survation's polling methods?
Dog fight in the polling industry?
Populus mostly give Labour leads (apart from the odd tie, like Monday).
Strangely, they haven't put the Conservatives ahead since August, when, in general, they were giving Labour bigger leads.
Indeed, just two Tory leads in August, and one in May. None this year.
So when I edit PB, does this give me an excuse to embed pictures of pretty ladies in hot pants?
The Producers sounds like a play with a very poor taste theme. Doubt it'll do very well at the box office - wouldn't like to be a backer of it personally.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?
After 33 previews, the original Broadway production opened at the St. James Theatre on April 19, 2001, starring Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, and ran for 2,502 performances, winning a record-breaking 12 Tony Awards.
So when I edit PB, does this give me an excuse to embed pictures of pretty ladies in hot pants?
The Producers sounds like a play with a very poor taste theme. Doubt it'll do very well at the box office - wouldn't like to be a backer of it personally.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?
After 33 previews, the original Broadway production opened at the St. James Theatre on April 19, 2001, starring Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, and ran for 2,502 performances, winning a record-breaking 12 Tony Awards.
So what you're saying is that despite the poor taste theme about nazis, The Producers did much better than Pulpstar suggested and didn't lose its backers money after all? How unexpected, somebody should write a play about that!
Hurrah !
Hey, you kids must be very young!
Anybody of my generation will remember Mel Brookes' film as one of the funniest and most cutting comedies ever to hit the silver screen. (It was made in 1968 and yes it was a Talkie.)
If you haven't seen it, just get a copy and watch. You won't regret it.
Was remade as a musical film in 2005. Brooks was screenwriter and song-writer
See the original if you can.
There is one shot in which the camera pans along the front row of the mortified audience watching the appalling production. They are all slack-jawed in horror at what they are seeing on the stage, until you get to the writer himself dressed in full Nazi regalia and wearing a tin-hat and broad grin.
One of the great pan shots of all time.
The Nazi girls in the photograph look rather attractive. Some delegates must be getting hot under the collar.
I also thought that about the kipper's in attendance. Hope they have CPR machines near to hand?
Helmer's probably asked one for a cheeky massage. And received a slap.
So, what if Osborne stands up at budget and announces the same higher tax payer changes ( or similar) but that the money saved is either used for the defecit or for a tax cut for middle incomes? Can Labour stick with a policy for low voters or folk who are 75%+ chance of voting.
When Darling did something similar with Inheritance Tax, it didnt really come out as a masterstroke. It just looked desperate and a bit me-too..
Except that if (under Labour's logic) the money was required to reduce the fees from £9k to £6k then Labour has to dream up another area to tax.
I hate all his stuff - it's all one line away from a fart joke. Or is a fart joke.
The version I saw was clever, nuanced and pantomime. It was so totally different from the Blazing Saddles style of Mel B. I hate Gene Wilder as well, so that film really had no chance.
So when I edit PB, does this give me an excuse to embed pictures of pretty ladies in hot pants?
The Producers sounds like a play with a very poor taste theme. Doubt it'll do very well at the box office - wouldn't like to be a backer of it personally.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?
After 33 previews, the original Broadway production opened at the St. James Theatre on April 19, 2001, starring Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, and ran for 2,502 performances, winning a record-breaking 12 Tony Awards.
Douglas Carswell MP@DouglasCarswell · 2h 2 hours ago They might sneer in SW1. But in Thanet, Ukip has an 11 point lead .....
Or maybe not.
Andrew Cooper @AndrewCooper__ The Survation poll in S.Thanet showing Farage ahead says nearly twice as many people voted UKIP there in 2010 as actually did #roguepoll Retweeted by Stephen Tall
Is that Populus boy and Tory stooge Andrew Cooper (recently made Lord Cooper of Windrush courtesy of David Cameron) by any chance that is casting aspersions on Survation's polling methods?
Dog fight in the polling industry?
Populus mostly give Labour leads (apart from the odd tie, like Monday).
Strangely, they haven't put the Conservatives ahead since August, when, in general, they were giving Labour bigger leads.
Indeed, just two Tory leads in August, and one in May. None this year.
Is it possible to produce a subset of ELBOW limited to pollsters with a track record - i.e. Ipsos-Mori, YouGov, Opinium, ComRes phone and ICM, as per this thread:
@TCPoliticalBetting For a great number of Tories on here, the existence of magic money trees enables their lifestyles. Denying it's existence will make the worlds economy collapse. There are some who hold the view that this might not be such a bad thing
I'm very fond of Ridley's The Good Wife TV show - lots of clever character interplay and plotting for a legal drama.
Speaking of legal dramas and thinking of Boston Legal - I see William Shatner is in Haven S5 later this year - YEAH. That'll be weird, all sci-supernatural with no space craft.
Douglas Carswell MP@DouglasCarswell · 2h 2 hours ago They might sneer in SW1. But in Thanet, Ukip has an 11 point lead .....
Or maybe not.
Andrew Cooper @AndrewCooper__ The Survation poll in S.Thanet showing Farage ahead says nearly twice as many people voted UKIP there in 2010 as actually did #roguepoll Retweeted by Stephen Tall
Is that Populus boy and Tory stooge Andrew Cooper (recently made Lord Cooper of Windrush courtesy of David Cameron) by any chance that is casting aspersions on Survation's polling methods?
Dog fight in the polling industry?
Populus mostly give Labour leads (apart from the odd tie, like Monday).
Strangely, they haven't put the Conservatives ahead since August, when, in general, they were giving Labour bigger leads.
Indeed, just two Tory leads in August, and one in May. None this year.
Is it possible to produce a subset of ELBOW limited to pollsters with a track record - i.e. Ipsos-Mori, YouGov, Opinium, ComRes phone and ICM, as per this thread:
Here's an idea, with subjects such as science, technology, engineering, maths and medicine, why don't we get rid of tuition fees, after all we don't have enough home grown experts in that field. Its called investing in our future.
If somebody wants to waste three years doing media studies charge them.
Douglas Carswell MP@DouglasCarswell · 2h 2 hours ago They might sneer in SW1. But in Thanet, Ukip has an 11 point lead .....
Or maybe not.
Andrew Cooper @AndrewCooper__ The Survation poll in S.Thanet showing Farage ahead says nearly twice as many people voted UKIP there in 2010 as actually did #roguepoll Retweeted by Stephen Tall
Is that Populus boy and Tory stooge Andrew Cooper (recently made Lord Cooper of Windrush courtesy of David Cameron) by any chance that is casting aspersions on Survation's polling methods?
Dog fight in the polling industry?
Populus mostly give Labour leads (apart from the odd tie, like Monday).
Strangely, they haven't put the Conservatives ahead since August, when, in general, they were giving Labour bigger leads.
Indeed, just two Tory leads in August, and one in May. None this year.
Is it possible to produce a subset of ELBOW limited to pollsters with a track record - i.e. Ipsos-Mori, YouGov, Opinium, ComRes phone and ICM, as per this thread:
Best cartoon I have seen from Marf, absolutely brilliant
Wonder if people are slowly realising that predicting trouble doesn't cause trouble, and isn't desiring trouble... hopefully, just a shame it had to come to this
Here's an idea, with subjects such as science, technology, engineering, maths and medicine, why don't we get rid of tuition fees, after all we don't have enough home grown experts in that field. Its called investing in our future.
If somebody wants to waste three years doing media studies charge them.
Presumably, you'd place restrictions on the eventual careers of such people?
Otherwise it's "Whoopee, free first class science degree!", and then walk into a City job as a highly paid Analyst.
@blackburn63 If you want people to stop doing nonsensical degrees, or "wasting" time at university, educate employers and HR staff. Degrees are just a lazy way of making a guess at who can perform a function, and how much pay they should receive in most cases.
Douglas Carswell MP@DouglasCarswell · 2h 2 hours ago They might sneer in SW1. But in Thanet, Ukip has an 11 point lead .....
Or maybe not.
Andrew Cooper @AndrewCooper__ The Survation poll in S.Thanet showing Farage ahead says nearly twice as many people voted UKIP there in 2010 as actually did #roguepoll Retweeted by Stephen Tall
Is that Populus boy and Tory stooge Andrew Cooper (recently made Lord Cooper of Windrush courtesy of David Cameron) by any chance that is casting aspersions on Survation's polling methods?
Dog fight in the polling industry?
Populus mostly give Labour leads (apart from the odd tie, like Monday).
Strangely, they haven't put the Conservatives ahead since August, when, in general, they were giving Labour bigger leads.
Indeed, just two Tory leads in August, and one in May. None this year.
Is it possible to produce a subset of ELBOW limited to pollsters with a track record - i.e. Ipsos-Mori, YouGov, Opinium, ComRes phone and ICM, as per this thread:
Currently we've started splitting YG from non-YouGov, as mentioned up-thread.
And as an extra-special service, could you perhaps produce a sub-set of ELBOW limited to polls that only show the Tories in the lead? (You may even find that you could sell these for a reasonable price.)
@TCPoliticalBetting For a great number of Tories on here, the existence of magic money trees enables their lifestyles. Denying it's existence will make the worlds economy collapse. There are some who hold the view that this might not be such a bad thing
Sorry unable to see what point of mine you are responding to as I have not mentioned the socialists magic money tree.
I always thought government missed a trick when they changed the system. They could have set up a scheme whereby for instance graduates who go to work in the NHS, for ever year they are there the government pays off x% of their loan.
That way we can leverage it such that we don't train a load of dentists (at way more the cost of £9k a year) and then after a just a few years they go into private only practice or off abroad.
@TCPoliticalBetting You are indeed correct. Though the point is valid as a general statement, money and stocks are faith based and only have the value of that faith. Apologies anyway.
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A twit can never re-tweet enough?
Essentially, they are raiding the well-off for up to £3bn
They are spending it on something nice and fluffy that they hope will win them votes.
But the "spending" doesn't actually cost them anything new in cash terms...which in their mad world allows them to spend it again on something else that is nice and fluffy.
"Essentially, they are raiding the well-off for up to £3bn"
How very dare they, Money should come from the bottom!
How much is Ozzie going to cut the social security budget by?
"A little piece of Poland, a little piece of France...."
Secondly, I am making the subsidiary point that the Great British Public scrutinise and analyse such policies for about 1/1,000,000,000th of a moment. And it's the headlines that matter.
That lot should all probably pay for itself in the round
I just hope that BIS does the same as the Japanese commerce department and drills UK management on the importance of IP rights and filing early and often.
However, I am sure this new wheeze will get equally poor reporting and all we will hear is fee cut, fee cut...
Glad you've had the pleasure too.
"Spring time, for Hitler and Germany. Deutschland is happy and gay"
"Spring time, for Hitler and Germany. Winter for Poland and France" ...
Brillant!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmYIo7bcUw
"you are only actually going to pay back based upon you future success"
The Tories brought in an anti aspirational system?
Why should people under 25 have to pay this tax and further 9% ?
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/02/cage-deserve-all-the-scrutiny-the-relevant-authorities-can-muster/
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktmNEWwH69s
New Labour introduced the crackpot "50%" target. And noone has the heart or sense to get rid of it.
"Why should high-earning graduates with good jobs be exempt from sharing the burden...etc..etc"
Would infuriate Cons supporters (ie whose children are due to become those high-earners) but might be smart politics at the right time.
There is one shot in which the camera pans along the front row of the mortified audience watching the appalling production. They are all slack-jawed in horror at what they are seeing on the stage, until you get to the writer himself dressed in full Nazi regalia and wearing a tin-hat and broad grin.
One of the great pan shots of all time.
Just like brother Gordon he can't help himself when faced with the temptation of other people's savings.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/let-s-carry-on-for-a-bit
Some of you guys with big SNP books might want to sling the rev a couple of ecumenical quid. I'm sure he'll be doing his bit for the cause.
Here a hardworking student can work part time (pulling pints in the evening, as an Uber driver, zero hours contractor or whatever) and eat a big chunk out of their student loan as they go. It is possible to get a debt free degree.
Very little of what governments do makes much sense.
A governments main function is to gain and retain power.
Douglas Carswell MP@DouglasCarswell · 2h 2 hours ago
They might sneer in SW1. But in Thanet, Ukip has an 11 point lead .....
Or maybe not.
Andrew Cooper @AndrewCooper__
The Survation poll in S.Thanet showing Farage ahead says nearly twice as many people voted UKIP there in 2010 as actually did #roguepoll
Retweeted by Stephen Tall
He might as well.
It's a lot like Labour introducing tax credits for working people. It is state sponsored corporate subsidisation of low wages. It makes no sense to let companies off the hook so they can get away with paying less than a real living wage.
Swing-back is happening....
Its just happening very late in the day..
Dog fight in the polling industry?
Not in government = try to gain power
In government = try to retain power
Any useful laws and acts are merely a coincidence of trying to solve the above.
It is of course insane, but it is what we get.
Regardless, it does increasingly look as if most pensions are for mugs.
Thanks Tim. Just watch it and found it just as funny as ever.
Timeless wit.
The Nazi girls in the photograph look rather attractive. Some delegates must be getting hot under the collar.
Not as easy as it looks, this pedantry stuff.
"Stop putting words into my mouth."
I didn't. I made a statement then asked you a question to clarify your position on the matter.
"John, you must make a site visit".
UKIP has a massive advantage over the other Parties in respect of its ability to take a joke, and laugh at itself at times. If anybody seriously thought they were the National Socialists in disguise, it wouldn't be funny. They aren't, so it is.
I LOL like a drain. I was converted, I still hate Mel Brookes.
He's okay as a big fish in a small pond. No chance on the national stage.
http://www.rogerhelmermep.co.uk/about-roger/
Will Vangelis score it again ?!
Way more important than a piffling General Election this lot.
The version I saw was clever, nuanced and pantomime. It was so totally different from the Blazing Saddles style of Mel B. I hate Gene Wilder as well, so that film really had no chance.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2015/02/26/all-current-surveys-with-con-leads-are-from-pollsters-whichve-been-tested-in-a-ge-unlike-all-but-one-of-those-with-lab-leads/
For a great number of Tories on here, the existence of magic money trees enables their lifestyles.
Denying it's existence will make the worlds economy collapse.
There are some who hold the view that this might not be such a bad thing
Speaking of legal dramas and thinking of Boston Legal - I see William Shatner is in Haven S5 later this year - YEAH. That'll be weird, all sci-supernatural with no space craft.
(OK that's quite enough Surrey tennis for today - MS)
If somebody wants to waste three years doing media studies charge them.
Wonder if people are slowly realising that predicting trouble doesn't cause trouble, and isn't desiring trouble... hopefully, just a shame it had to come to this
Otherwise it's "Whoopee, free first class science degree!", and then walk into a City job as a highly paid Analyst.
If you want people to stop doing nonsensical degrees, or "wasting" time at university, educate employers and HR staff.
Degrees are just a lazy way of making a guess at who can perform a function, and how much pay they should receive in most cases.
That way we can leverage it such that we don't train a load of dentists (at way more the cost of £9k a year) and then after a just a few years they go into private only practice or off abroad.
You are indeed correct.
Though the point is valid as a general statement, money and stocks are faith based and only have the value of that faith.
Apologies anyway.
My comment was a statement of fact, not an opinion.