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  • SunnyJimSunnyJim Posts: 1,106
    SunnyJim said:

    Betting Post:

    1700 Clonmel

    Heart Island 80-1 (VC)

    De Name Escapes Me 100-1 (BetFred)


    Either/both are value as ew punts if you have accounts with the bookmakers named (and haven't been restricted).



    1st De Name Escapes Me

  • Sensational call by Sunny Jim.

    De Name Escapes Me wins the bumper at Clonmel. First 50/1 winner I have backed in a very long while.

    Step forward Jim, and take a bow - and many a pint should we ever meet.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983

    SunnyJim said:

    SunnyJim said:

    Betting Post:

    1700 Clonmel

    Heart Island 80-1 (VC)

    De Name Escapes Me 100-1 (BetFred)


    Either/both are value as ew punts if you have accounts with the bookmakers named (and haven't been restricted).



    1st De Name Escapes Me

    Wow!

    What was the story?!
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983

    Sensational call by Sunny Jim.

    De Name Escapes Me wins the bumper at Clonmel. First 50/1 winner I have backed in a very long while.

    Step forward Jim, and take a bow - and many a pint should we ever meet.

    The best news to come out of Clonmel in years. Sadly I wasnt around for the original post, just caught up with it when I saw the post about the result.

  • Speedy said:

    Neil said:

    A fascinating article about a man who spent 7 days watching Russian TV. It goes a long way to explaining False Flag's state of mind. Doesnt leave any clues about how Flightpath ended up the way he did though.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/magazine/out-of-my-mouth-comes-unimpeachable-manly-truth.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

    That is why I don't watch much TV these past 3 years, apart from TV being obsolete.
    And also why the end of the old media will bring a very different social and political environment.
    The BBC are just as biased, but better at being subtle and of course biased against their own country, its institutions and (most of) its people rather than biased in favour of them.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited February 2015

    S & P on possible Grexit:

    All things considered, we believe that a Grexit would not lead to a degree of direct contagion that would drive other sovereigns out of the euro, not least because the eurozone rescue architecture is more robust than during the last Grexit scare in 2012.

    We believe that the financial burden of a Grexit on the remaining 18 eurozone sovereigns would be moderate and absorbed over decades, and we therefore do not expect that a Grexit, by itself, would have significant rating implications for these sovereign.


    http://www.theguardian.com/business/blog/live/2015/feb/19/greece-to-seek-bailout-extension-after-33bn-lifeline

    Today I got many calls around lunchtime suddenly and from people I haven't heard in a long time all asking me urgently about what is going on and will Greece leave the euro, I was out to get a coffee and hadn't heard about the German response, I immediately thought that something really big had happened.

    In my opinion Greece has surrendered, however the germans want more (germans being germans). That risks that Greece will get an alibi to leave the euro and put the blame all on Germany.
    For the first time the greek government has an excellent political excuse to sell to it's people and leave the eurozone without many political reactions either internal or external because everyone in europe can now blame Germany for it.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,500
    Neil said:

    A fascinating article about a man who spent 7 days watching Russian TV. It goes a long way to explaining False Flag's state of mind. Doesnt leave any clues about how Flightpath ended up the way he did though.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/magazine/out-of-my-mouth-comes-unimpeachable-manly-truth.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

    LOL, squareroot must be a fan as well
  • SunnyJimSunnyJim Posts: 1,106
    Neil said:




    SunnyJim said:

    SunnyJim said:

    Betting Post:

    1700 Clonmel

    Heart Island 80-1 (VC)

    De Name Escapes Me 100-1 (BetFred)


    Either/both are value as ew punts if you have accounts with the bookmakers named (and haven't been restricted).



    1st De Name Escapes Me

    Wow!

    What was the story?!

    I've spent too many years watching the prices whizz round on Betfair and you can often see where money is that shouldn't be.

    I've got a twitter feed where I put regular bets on (not sure if OGH is happy about a link - please delete if not).

    https://twitter.com/mick_tatlock



  • Paul_Mid_BedsPaul_Mid_Beds Posts: 1,409
    edited February 2015
    MikeK said:

    Guardian news ‏@guardiannews 41m41 minutes ago
    Police removal of 14-year-old girl's clothes was legal, court rules http://d.gu.com/8dWTzx

    This country is gradually descending into hell. How can this be right? Our judges and police are behaving as the gestapo did when the Nazis came to power in 1933. That soon changed to worse deeds, as we now know.

    Christopher Booker has written many times about how the Police effectively work as the parmilitary wing of social services arresting and holding parents on social service request when they want them out of the way.

    The public sector regards themselves as the masters and us as the servants who must obey. In Child protection cases, one of the worst things you can be accused of is ignoring the advice of the professionals (ie the state)

    Meanwhile a mother who smacked her child on the hand with a wooden spoon is in a crown court on charges of child cruelty (the child is probably already in care and due to be forcibly adopted) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11420374/Mother-who-hit-daughter-on-hand-with-wooden-spoon-charged-with-cruelty.html

    Its as if Eric Honeckers wife Margot was running UK social services, she certainly seems to be their icon.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dictators-wife-defiant-over-forced-adoptions-1817710.html

    "The families torn apart by Mrs Honecker's children's policy would not agree. Under the policy, the children of dissidents and East Germans who attempted to flee to the West were forcibly and permanently separated from their parents. Many were placed in foster homes or state adoption institutions, or with the families of childless Communist party activists.

    Many affected children and parents never saw each other again, "
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012

    Things must be bad in Euroland - the BBC are leading with it. Are there no Tories to bash?

    By the by, on the news the other day, I noticed the senior German negotiator was a very stern looking guy in a wheelchair. I thought "this won't end well for Greece - they've brought Dr Strangelove out of retirement...."

    Was that wrong?

    'Of course the whole point of the ''Doomsday Scenario'' is lost if you keep it a secret!'
  • IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    Speedy said:

    For the first time the greek government has an excellent political excuse to sell to it's people and leave the eurozone without many political reactions either internal or external because everyone in europe can now blame Germany for it.

    Which is interesting, because Tsipras and Varoufakis always wanted to leave the Euro, but had to moderate their policy to what the public wanted to get elected. If the Germans hand them a cast iron excuse to blame Germany for leaving they might not be able to believe their luck.

  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    SunnyJim said:

    Neil said:




    SunnyJim said:

    SunnyJim said:

    Betting Post:

    1700 Clonmel

    Heart Island 80-1 (VC)

    De Name Escapes Me 100-1 (BetFred)


    Either/both are value as ew punts if you have accounts with the bookmakers named (and haven't been restricted).



    1st De Name Escapes Me

    Wow!

    What was the story?!

    I've spent too many years watching the prices whizz round on Betfair and you can often see where money is that shouldn't be.

    I've got a twitter feed where I put regular bets on (not sure if OGH is happy about a link - please delete if not).

    https://twitter.com/mick_tatlock



    JackW's tipster of the year crown finally looks under threat! ;) (Unless his ARSE calls the GE to the last seat!)
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    Speedy said:

    Neil said:

    A fascinating article about a man who spent 7 days watching Russian TV. It goes a long way to explaining False Flag's state of mind. Doesnt leave any clues about how Flightpath ended up the way he did though.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/magazine/out-of-my-mouth-comes-unimpeachable-manly-truth.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

    That is why I don't watch much TV these past 3 years, apart from TV being obsolete.
    And also why the end of the old media will bring a very different social and political environment.
    The BBC are just as biased, but better at being subtle and of course biased against their own country, its institutions and (most of) its people rather than biased in favour of them.
    Nope it's just party political.
    Journalism functions like a religion but more flexible as it has no holy book, and journalists are like priests, they tell people what is right and what is wrong.
    When common people start to report their own news, that will be the end of journalism as a religion, and we are not very far from that moment as the existence of PB.com proves.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,963
    edited February 2015
    Huzzah for Mr. Jim's great success!

    Of course, if you want top notch F1 tips [repeated, as I post them here too], do follow MorrisF1 on Twitter.

    Edited extra bit: just followed on Twitter, and the odds quoted are 100/1!

    That sort of success may be enough to tempt me to bet peanuts on horse-racing again.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    SunnyJim said:

    Neil said:




    SunnyJim said:

    SunnyJim said:

    Betting Post:

    1700 Clonmel

    Heart Island 80-1 (VC)

    De Name Escapes Me 100-1 (BetFred)


    Either/both are value as ew punts if you have accounts with the bookmakers named (and haven't been restricted).



    1st De Name Escapes Me

    Wow!

    What was the story?!

    I've spent too many years watching the prices whizz round on Betfair and you can often see where money is that shouldn't be.

    I've got a twitter feed where I put regular bets on (not sure if OGH is happy about a link - please delete if not).

    https://twitter.com/mick_tatlock



    Blimey well done!
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,928
    Just spent the last 20 minutes watching Miliband's Marr interview from the start of the year. Not brilliant but far better than his dismal ratings would lead you to expect. He seems much better at this than the Obama style speeches which I suspect the people around him prefer to see him doing. He needs to get in the ring with Paxman and the like. Not saying he'd deliver any knockout blows but that hardly matters, surviving should be enough to garner some respect, even if grudging in some quarters.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFkvpzrH0Ik
  • Can I just thank Sunny Jim.

    Have you got Saturday's lottery numbers ?

    Tipster of the Year.

    Move over JackW.
  • Can I just thank Sunny Jim.

    Have you got Saturday's lottery numbers ?

    Tipster of the Year.

    Move over JackW.

    Han Solo: "I call it luck!"

    :)
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    May I say that after banging about UKIP chances in Castle Point for a year now, I do feel vindicated.
  • SunnyJim said:

    Neil said:




    SunnyJim said:

    SunnyJim said:

    Betting Post:

    1700 Clonmel

    Heart Island 80-1 (VC)

    De Name Escapes Me 100-1 (BetFred)


    Either/both are value as ew punts if you have accounts with the bookmakers named (and haven't been restricted).



    1st De Name Escapes Me

    Wow!

    What was the story?!

    I've spent too many years watching the prices whizz round on Betfair and you can often see where money is that shouldn't be.

    I've got a twitter feed where I put regular bets on (not sure if OGH is happy about a link - please delete if not).

    https://twitter.com/mick_tatlock




    Well that was a brilliant call by any standards, Sunny Jim.

    I don't normally follow tips from people whose track record I don't know, but there was something about that one that made me break my usual habit. Naturally my stakes were small and |I certainly didn't get 100/1 - Betfred don't like me, for some reason - but I made enough to be extremely grateful to you.

    I'm following your Twitter feed (I am sure Mike won't object to you flagging it here) and if we ever meet up, the first several are on me.

    Any chance you will be at the Festival?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,133
    edited February 2015

    Floater said:

    Floater said:

    Have the Germans just thrown Greece under the bus?

    The Greek bus is hanging over cliff. Tsipras is saying "Hang on a minute, lads. I've got a great idea".
    Remind me how that worked out :-)
    Steady on, we never actually see the bus fall over!

    Apparently the "great idea" was (if you want to know)... that they would run the bus until the fuel run out. This would lower the weight at the back and they could all get out the front. The bus would then crash down the mountain side and the gold captured by the Mafia. Film 2 would be the chase across Europe to get it back. I think it works best the way it was left though.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7845533.stm

    "The Royal Society of Chemistry has announced the winner of a competition to solve the conundrum at the end of the iconic UK film The Italian Job." (article from back in 2009!)
  • Paul_Mid_BedsPaul_Mid_Beds Posts: 1,409
    edited February 2015
    Speedy said:

    May I say that after banging about UKIP chances in Castle Point for a year now, I do feel vindicated.

    I don't know why, the actual poll showed UKIP three points ahead. It was then adjusteed, as most polls now are, apparently because they don't believe voters since they made the pollsters look silly in 1992 and the pollsters think more will vote Tory than say they will.

    Dosen't seem to occur to the pollsters that with the whole establishment monstering UKIP as beyond the pale and racist, that rather more people might vote UKIP than are willing to admit it, especially in traditionally Labour voting households where gullible fellow family members still belive in Labour and political correctness.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Indigo said:

    Anorak said:

    Indigo said:

    This partisan bullshit is tiring. The judges, who one must assume have at least a passing familiarity with the criminal justice system fell that while it was legal, it was not the best approach. They expressed concern that the police's immediate instinct with a distressed minor was to take her clothes off, rather than say sit her down with a cup of tea and let her calm down, while someone called so see if her parents were available. Since no one tried, we shall never know if they could have been there in half an hour and this whole sorry business could have been avoided.

    Police not covered in glory, rapped on the knuckles, no real harm done to the girl. Stripped of the politics, it's hardly an earth-shattering story, is it.
    Well it wouldn't be if the usual suspects didn't treat every such story as a personal attack on the government and cut and paste in large chunks of irrelevancies wrapped in a ladle full of hyperbole in order to say that it was nothing to do with Dave and the Tories are blameless, rather than making an entirely correct and adult observation such as yours above.
    Grow up, you are the one twisting a few statements of fact about the story (from the link itself) into some defence of the government. Why say nothing when the actions are grossly misrepresented and compared to the gestapo.
    What should worry everybody is that a 14 year old girl had consumed a bottle of vodka.
    For the most part I think our police force are useless even allowing for the fag end of society they are left to deal with, and the government's treatment of the police federation is entirely justified.
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @Speedy

    'For the first time the greek government has an excellent political excuse to sell to it's people and leave the eurozone without many political reactions either internal or external because everyone in europe can now blame Germany for it.'

    Greece won't leave or be kicked out,just a lot of froth on both sides for domestic consumption, as usual a last minute fudge will be found.
  • My latest post, trying to make sense of all the polling around UKIP:

    http://newstonoone.blogspot.com/2015/02/purples-reined-current-polling-and.html
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,041
    Indigo said:

    Speedy said:

    For the first time the greek government has an excellent political excuse to sell to it's people and leave the eurozone without many political reactions either internal or external because everyone in europe can now blame Germany for it.

    Which is interesting, because Tsipras and Varoufakis always wanted to leave the Euro, but had to moderate their policy to what the public wanted to get elected. If the Germans hand them a cast iron excuse to blame Germany for leaving they might not be able to believe their luck.

    Perhaps the Germans just want them out of the Euro, and are doing their best to encourage an exit?
  • Mr. D, for, Greeky, ze currency iz over.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited February 2015
    Hmmm, perhaps America has decided to dump the Ukrainian president, this is a scathing article against Poroshenko and the timing for it is very suspicious:

    http://www.newsweek.com/2015/02/27/explosive-court-case-puts-chocolate-king-dock-307920.html
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,848

    Speedy said:

    May I say that after banging about UKIP chances in Castle Point for a year now, I do feel vindicated.

    I don't know why, the actual poll showed UKIP three points ahead. It was then adjusteed, as most polls now are, apparently because they don't believe voters since they made the pollsters look silly in 1992 and the pollsters think more will vote Tory than say they will.

    Dosen't seem to occur to the pollsters that with the whole establishment monstering UKIP as beyond the pale and racist, that rather more people might vote UKIP than are willing to admit it, especially in traditionally Labour voting households where gullible fellow family members still belive in Labour and political correctness.
    I agree up to a point, but the trouble is, the propaganda does have an effect. We can speak of brow beaten 'shy kippers', but at what point do they get too shy to vote?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    Speedy said:

    May I say that after banging about UKIP chances in Castle Point for a year now, I do feel vindicated.

    I don't know why, the actual poll showed UKIP three points ahead. It was then adjusteed, as most polls now are, apparently because they don't believe voters since they made the pollsters look silly in 1992 and the pollsters think more will vote Tory than say they will.

    Dosen't seem to occur to the pollsters that with the whole establishment monstering UKIP as beyond the pale and racist, that rather more people might vote UKIP than are willing to admit it, especially in traditionally Labour voting households where gullible fellow family members still belive in Labour and political correctness.
    Think he is agreeing w you

    What these polls also don't take into account is ukip lsunching the GE campaign in castle point last week... I don't know if that makes any major difference but obv it won't be in these findings
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    It's all about the bets you didn't make D:


    Pulpstar Posts: 12,516
    3:25PM
    SunnyJim said:
    Betting Post:

    1700 Clonmel

    Heart Island 80-1 (VC)

    De Name Escapes Me 100-1 (BetFred)


    Either/both are value as ew punts if you have accounts with the bookmakers named (and haven't been restricted).

    Not following you in but reminded me I had some cash not working for me with Victor

    #liquidity ...

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    antifrank said:

    My latest post, trying to make sense of all the polling around UKIP:

    http://newstonoone.blogspot.com/2015/02/purples-reined-current-polling-and.html

    The David Cameron to top vote share in his seat of all the leaders looks very good after UKIP's raincheck today.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited February 2015
    antifrank said:

    My latest post, trying to make sense of all the polling around UKIP:

    http://newstonoone.blogspot.com/2015/02/purples-reined-current-polling-and.html

    Excellent use of 'unchartered territory'
  • Speedy said:

    May I say that after banging about UKIP chances in Castle Point for a year now, I do feel vindicated.

    I don't know why, the actual poll showed UKIP three points ahead. It was then adjusteed, as most polls now are, apparently because they don't believe voters since they made the pollsters look silly in 1992 and the pollsters think more will vote Tory than say they will.

    Dosen't seem to occur to the pollsters that with the whole establishment monstering UKIP as beyond the pale and racist, that rather more people might vote UKIP than are willing to admit it, especially in traditionally Labour voting households where gullible fellow family members still belive in Labour and political correctness.
    I agree up to a point, but the trouble is, the propaganda does have an effect. We can speak of brow beaten 'shy kippers', but at what point do they get too shy to vote?
    Didn't UKIP under-perform their polling at the Euro-elections?
  • isam said:

    antifrank said:

    My latest post, trying to make sense of all the polling around UKIP:

    http://newstonoone.blogspot.com/2015/02/purples-reined-current-polling-and.html

    Excellent use of 'unchartered territory'
    The whole bloody post is one long "I dunno lol". That, and no one else does either.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,963
    edited February 2015
    F1: Marussia to seek return as Manor F1:
    http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/17581/9721785/marussia-to-exit-administration-with-the-aim-of-returning-to-f1-in-2015

    Edited extra bit: they've left administration, which is very significant, but a return isn't quite 100% yet, I think.
  • DUP seek a judicial review over the debates:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-31538562
  • Fantastic set of leading questions from ComRes (courtesy of our host). Note especially the change in wording from the second question to the third question:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-OZBNyIgAAE6Bs.jpg

    I congratulate them on finding 14% of the population willing to disagree with a tautology.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    Speedy said:

    May I say that after banging about UKIP chances in Castle Point for a year now, I do feel vindicated.

    I don't know why, the actual poll showed UKIP three points ahead. It was then adjusteed, as most polls now are, apparently because they don't believe voters since they made the pollsters look silly in 1992 and the pollsters think more will vote Tory than say they will.

    Dosen't seem to occur to the pollsters that with the whole establishment monstering UKIP as beyond the pale and racist, that rather more people might vote UKIP than are willing to admit it, especially in traditionally Labour voting households where gullible fellow family members still belive in Labour and political correctness.
    I agree up to a point, but the trouble is, the propaganda does have an effect. We can speak of brow beaten 'shy kippers', but at what point do they get too shy to vote?
    Didn't UKIP under-perform their polling at the Euro-elections?
    ICM had them at 20% at this stage
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Speedy said:

    May I say that after banging about UKIP chances in Castle Point for a year now, I do feel vindicated.

    I don't know why, the actual poll showed UKIP three points ahead. It was then adjusteed, as most polls now are, apparently because they don't believe voters since they made the pollsters look silly in 1992 and the pollsters think more will vote Tory than say they will.

    Dosen't seem to occur to the pollsters that with the whole establishment monstering UKIP as beyond the pale and racist, that rather more people might vote UKIP than are willing to admit it, especially in traditionally Labour voting households where gullible fellow family members still belive in Labour and political correctness.
    I agree up to a point, but the trouble is, the propaganda does have an effect. We can speak of brow beaten 'shy kippers', but at what point do they get too shy to vote?
    Didn't UKIP under-perform their polling at the Euro-elections?
    Yes the "2-seat-major-party" underwhelmed even on shocking low turn outs.

    I note the DUP are seeking a judicial review after being excluded from the proposed debates - they have a point if every 2 bit, 2 MP mob can get in - why not them ?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-31538562
  • FalseFlagFalseFlag Posts: 1,801
    edited February 2015
    Speedy said:

    Hmmm, perhaps America has decided to dump the Ukrainian president, this is a scathing article against Poroshenko and the timing for it is very suspicious:

    http://www.newsweek.com/2015/02/27/explosive-court-case-puts-chocolate-king-dock-307920.html

    Semenchenko has held a press conference heavily criticising the UAF General staff and very carefully the President, calling the Debaltseve retreat a "total disaster". It was, I am hearing several thousand killed and captured, some of the very few battle worthy units destroyed. Huge amounts of armour and heavy artillery captured too, rebels have always prospered through more highly motivated infantry plus superior leadership whilst being outgunned in artillery and armour.

    More importantly, however he proceeded to announce the creation of an "alternative general headquarters" headed by himself and 6 other leaders, including Yarosh of Right Sector. According to him a number of brigade leaders have signed up to be a part of this "alternative headquarters".

    The war is even more unpopular amongst the Ukrainian people now, Europe has distanced itself from the US (http://russia-insider.com/en/opinion/2015/02/18/3599) so the neo con crazies in Washington and London might be getting desperate. Or maybe they have suddenly become realists and will seek a peaceful settlement.
  • DUP seek a judicial review over the debates:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-31538562

    I wouldn't be surprised if they win as well. My reading of Ofcom rules is that the TV companies have screwed up. Under the rules I think they should have invited the BNP, DUP and Sinn Fein to the debates as well.


  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    antifrank said:

    Fantastic set of leading questions from ComRes (courtesy of our host). Note especially the change in wording from the second question to the third question:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-OZBNyIgAAE6Bs.jpg

    I congratulate them on finding 14% of the population willing to disagree with a tautology.

    Always been fascinated by the instruction on batteries: Insert Correctly. Do Not Misuse. Surely if anything is labelled Do Not Misuse, then absolutely everything should be.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    Foxtrot Oscar Bennett.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31535635

    No taxpayers' money for Greens or any other party.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,041
    antifrank said:

    Fantastic set of leading questions from ComRes (courtesy of our host). Note especially the change in wording from the second question to the third question:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-OZBNyIgAAE6Bs.jpg

    I congratulate them on finding 14% of the population willing to disagree with a tautology.

    Interesting that they didn't ask "I would like to find ways of lowering the amount of tax I pay".
  • FalseFlag said:

    Speedy said:

    Hmmm, perhaps America has decided to dump the Ukrainian president, this is a scathing article against Poroshenko and the timing for it is very suspicious:

    http://www.newsweek.com/2015/02/27/explosive-court-case-puts-chocolate-king-dock-307920.html

    Semenchenko has held a press conference heavily criticising the UAF General staff and very carefully the President, calling the Debaltseve retreat a "total disaster". It was, I am hearing several thousand killed and captured, some of the very few battle worthy units destroyed.

    More importantly, however he proceeded to announce the creation of an "alternative general headquarters" headed by himself and 6 other leaders, including Yarosh of Right Sector. According to him a number of brigade leaders have signed up to be a part of this "alternative headquarters".

    The war is even more unpopular amongst the Ukrainian people now, Europe has distanced itself from the US (http://russia-insider.com/en/opinion/2015/02/18/3599) so the neo con crazies in Washington and London might be getting desperate. Or maybe they have suddenly become realists and will seek a peaceful settlement.

    Is there a genuine East - West split in the peoples views, in which case partition seems inevitable to me after this. The only real argument would be where the border would be, with Russia keen to take places like Kharkov, Odessa and link up with trans dniester and Ukraine rather less keen on becoming landlocked?

    It seems to me that Ukraine is fairly artificial construct that USA was keen to support as a buffer zone between Russia and Europe.

    Its being suggested that the next flashpoint is the Baltic states. I think it is but not in the way they imagine. I suspect it will follow this with Belarus being admitted to the federation then, Russia will start flexing its muscles about access to its province of East Prussia, which it is unable to access directly due to the Lithuanian corridor, in an eerie repeat of History.

  • Speedy said:

    May I say that after banging about UKIP chances in Castle Point for a year now, I do feel vindicated.

    I don't know why, the actual poll showed UKIP three points ahead. It was then adjusteed, as most polls now are, apparently because they don't believe voters since they made the pollsters look silly in 1992 and the pollsters think more will vote Tory than say they will.

    Dosen't seem to occur to the pollsters that with the whole establishment monstering UKIP as beyond the pale and racist, that rather more people might vote UKIP than are willing to admit it, especially in traditionally Labour voting households where gullible fellow family members still belive in Labour and political correctness.
    I agree up to a point, but the trouble is, the propaganda does have an effect. We can speak of brow beaten 'shy kippers', but at what point do they get too shy to vote?
    Didn't UKIP under-perform their polling at the Euro-elections?
    Five polls overstated them, six understated them in the week running up to polling day
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    edited February 2015
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  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,928

    DUP seek a judicial review over the debates:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-31538562

    I can understand the Scottish and Welsh nationalist backlash but why do the DUP care? Surely it would farcical to invite them to take part if their opponents weren't there too?
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    new thread
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2960021/Labour-accepts-385-000-accountancy-giant-Miliband-s-MPs-accuse-promoting-tax-dodging-industrial-scale.html#ixzz3SDWNyuWX
  • FalseFlagFalseFlag Posts: 1,801

    FalseFlag said:

    Speedy said:

    Hmmm, perhaps America has decided to dump the Ukrainian president, this is a scathing article against Poroshenko and the timing for it is very suspicious:

    http://www.newsweek.com/2015/02/27/explosive-court-case-puts-chocolate-king-dock-307920.html

    Semenchenko has held a press conference heavily criticising the UAF General staff and very carefully the President, calling the Debaltseve retreat a "total disaster". It was, I am hearing several thousand killed and captured, some of the very few battle worthy units destroyed.

    More importantly, however he proceeded to announce the creation of an "alternative general headquarters" headed by himself and 6 other leaders, including Yarosh of Right Sector. According to him a number of brigade leaders have signed up to be a part of this "alternative headquarters".

    The war is even more unpopular amongst the Ukrainian people now, Europe has distanced itself from the US (http://russia-insider.com/en/opinion/2015/02/18/3599) so the neo con crazies in Washington and London might be getting desperate. Or maybe they have suddenly become realists and will seek a peaceful settlement.

    Is there a genuine East - West split in the peoples views, in which case partition seems inevitable to me after this. The only real argument would be where the border would be, with Russia keen to take places like Kharkov, Odessa and link up with trans dniester and Ukraine rather less keen on becoming landlocked?

    It seems to me that Ukraine is fairly artificial construct that USA was keen to support as a buffer zone between Russia and Europe.

    Its being suggested that the next flashpoint is the Baltic states. I think it is but not in the way they imagine. I suspect it will follow this with Belarus being admitted to the federation then, Russia will start flexing its muscles about access to its province of East Prussia, which it is unable to access directly due to the Lithuanian corridor, in an eerie repeat of History.

    There is clear East West spilt reflected in voting patterns, religious affiliation, language, ethnicity and history. The whole south from Odessa to Donbass as well as everything East of the Dnieper is Russian orientated.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    "Ed Miliband has been confronted by a disgruntled voter for failing to give the “working class man” a say on Europe.
    Peter Baldwin, an electrician at BAE Systems in Lancashire, challenged the Labour leader over his failure to back a vote on Britain’s membership of the European Union during a factory visit.
    He said the party’s refusal to propose a referendum was putting him off voting Labour and warned that the scale of immigration was forcing British workers out of jobs.
    The episode, caught on camera by the BBC, has echoes of the moment Gordon Brown got challenged over immigration while campaigning in Rochester by Gillian Duffy.
    It came as Mr Miliband was being introduced to workers at the jet fighter factory in front of the cameras.

    “At this moment in time I don’t feel like voting Labour,” Mr Baldwin told the Labour leader when they met.
    Asked by Mr Miliband what his “biggest issues” with the party were, Mr Baldwin continued: “This morning we were sat in the brewery over there [for workers].
    “They’re all leaning now towards Ukip. Now, the question on everybody’s mind is the referendum. I know what you’re going to say, but the working class man in here wants to have a say.”


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ed-miliband/11423668/Ed-Miliband-confronted-by-working-class-voter-over-Europe.html
  • DarnDarn Posts: 1

    Speedy said:

    May I say that after banging about UKIP chances in Castle Point for a year now, I do feel vindicated.

    I don't know why, the actual poll showed UKIP three points ahead. It was then adjusteed, as most polls now are, apparently because they don't believe voters since they made the pollsters look silly in 1992 and the pollsters think more will vote Tory than say they will.

    Dosen't seem to occur to the pollsters that with the whole establishment monstering UKIP as beyond the pale and racist, that rather more people might vote UKIP than are willing to admit it, especially in traditionally Labour voting households where gullible fellow family members still belive in Labour and political correctness.
    I agree up to a point, but the trouble is, the propaganda does have an effect. We can speak of brow beaten 'shy kippers', but at what point do they get too shy to vote?
    Didn't UKIP under-perform their polling at the Euro-elections?
    Five polls overstated them, six understated them in the week running up to polling day
    The 5 under-estimates were all by by ICM (1poll) and YouGov - of one or two points - before being bang on in their final poll. Whereas the pollsters that over-estimated were by 4, 5, 5, 6, 6 and 8 points.
  • It's easy to say "UKIP" three months out. In the reality of a GE campaign I suspect they will fall back further.

    Carswell is probably safe; Reckless, who knows? Beyond that ... I suspect nil, none, zilch.
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