But as we now all know thanks to Peter Oborne the Telegraph just pull stories out of their backside. Not a single name on their story. In the honesty stakes I'd almost put them up there with Grant Shapps
Isn't Peter Oborne's allegation more that the Telegraph just pull stories?
...about anyone with a large advertising budget.
So all Labour need to do is sink some dough into Telegraph ads, and the paper will transform into The Guardian before their very eyes? Shame they're skint.
@rowenamason: Miliband is demanding apology from IDS over claims he avoided tax and accusing him of bringing politics into disrepute by repeating a lie
Wow, Milliband has just turned a winning hand into a losing hand. He's discaraded the pair from a full house to try and draw 4 of a kind. What a maroon.
Not so sure about that.
And have you tried Holdem? Much better game than Draw!
My best game is Pot Limit Omaha High-Low but I vastly prefer Draw to Texas Holdem, partly because there's a lot more action so I don't get bored and mostly because other players are rank rotten at playing draw, especially sit'n'gos.
I have been mulling a version of Holdem that includes changing cards. Why couldn't you have a system whereby you could change up to two cards at any time? (but in only one transaction) I have never dared suggest it to my card school, which is extremely conservative and has stuck with holdem for years...
We play all sorts of variations., my fav being one where you are dealt 6 cards which you separate into 2 hands (betting on each separately), then after the flop have to discard one from each hand that you are still playing.
But yeah, I like Omaha high/low > Omaha > Holdem > Stud > Draw
Jeremy Hunt: Labour’s attempts to weaponise English NHS undermined yet again by new Welsh A&E stats: 82.3% of patients seen in 4hrs v.s 92.9% in England.
Just by way of puncturing our little bubble still further, it should be noted that betting on Who Killed Lucy Beale? has vastly exceeded betting on the General Election so far, according to most bookies' reps.
Just by way of puncturing our little bubble still further, it should be noted that betting on Who Killed Lucy Beale? has vastly exceeded betting on the General Election so far, according to most bookies' reps.
"Yeah, I'm not sure that IDS making dodgy claims about his education is a great defence against the so-called scourge of tax avoiders going to the bother of varying his father's will in order to put him in a position to avoid inheritance tax."
What matters is whether he looks and sounds like a tax fiddler. I maintain he doesn't. In fact he strikes me as the last person likely to try to avoid tax,
By contrast IDS strikes me and most people as as about as sleazy as it's possible for a politician to be and in the court of public opinion that's all that'll matter
Tribal politics is both childish and depressing and you are possibly the worst I have ever known.
Please give it up as you look more stupid with each post.
Jeremy Hunt: Labour’s attempts to weaponise English NHS undermined yet again by new Welsh A&E stats: 82.3% of patients seen in 4hrs v.s 92.9% in England.
I was intrigued that R4 Today's line on this was "they may have spent less on the Welsh NHS, but they've spent a lot more on social care". Who's idea is it to combine the two budgets?
Extraordinary how few competition entries predict an overall majority.
It rather supports the view that odds of 1/4 NOM (1.25 Betfair) are generous.
Well, you'd be very brave to forecast that far away from the models/polls. But a 300+ forecast for either side might suggest that the predictor could foresee an overall majority 20% of the time.
Anyhow, never mind your humorous yet pusillanimous entry: who do you actually think will win, young man?
"You've clearly never met the man. I can tell you he would never be gratuitously rude to someone he has never met."
Happily I haven't but a quick flick through the wiki entry I posted will show you why that doesn't upset me. He and truth are strangers and to accuse a fellow politician of dirty dealing shows the measure of the man. But if you really want a judgement of the man you call friend read this.....
Just by way of puncturing our little bubble still further, it should be noted that betting on Who Killed Lucy Beale? has vastly exceeded betting on the General Election so far, according to most bookies' reps.
@Roger Ahh, but he has delivered Universal Credit under budget.... the papers were full of it (actually the papers are always full of "IT") Which budget, and which part seems to be shrouded in mystery, along with coherent figures from his department.
@rowenamason: Miliband is demanding apology from IDS over claims he avoided tax and accusing him of bringing politics into disrepute by repeating a lie
Wow, Milliband has just turned a winning hand into a losing hand. He's discaraded the pair from a full house to try and draw 4 of a kind. What a maroon.
Not so sure about that.
And have you tried Holdem? Much better game than Draw!
My best game is Pot Limit Omaha High-Low but I vastly prefer Draw to Texas Holdem, partly because there's a lot more action so I don't get bored and mostly because other players are rank rotten at playing draw, especially sit'n'gos.
My preferred game is Pot limit Omaha high - less sit n gos and tournies to play though (than Texas) but I mainly play cash in any event
I appreciate his existence. The appalling policies, the constant sneer, the way he has managed to unify so many people charities and the church against him. All positives for the Labour Party.
I appreciate his existence. The appalling policies, the constant sneer, the way he has managed to unify so many people charities and the church against him. All positives for the Labour Party.
If he has upset the people charities and the church then he is doing a good job.
@rowenamason: Miliband is demanding apology from IDS over claims he avoided tax and accusing him of bringing politics into disrepute by repeating a lie
Wow, Milliband has just turned a winning hand into a losing hand. He's discaraded the pair from a full house to try and draw 4 of a kind. What a maroon.
Not so sure about that.
And have you tried Holdem? Much better game than Draw!
My best game is Pot Limit Omaha High-Low but I vastly prefer Draw to Texas Holdem, partly because there's a lot more action so I don't get bored and mostly because other players are rank rotten at playing draw, especially sit'n'gos.
My preferred game is Pot limit Omaha high - less sit n gos and tournies to play though (than Texas) but I mainly play cash in any event
I once entered a Pot Limit Omaha High Tournament by mistake, didn't realise until about the 5th hand where the pot was not split between two people. I had never played High only before but still managed to make it to the final table but using my Pot Limit knowledge and quickly googling some starting hand strengths. I went out to a 4-of-a-kind to my-nut-flush in a piece of incredibly idiotic play by me (so idiotic I can still remember it).
Just by way of puncturing our little bubble still further, it should be noted that betting on Who Killed Lucy Beale? has vastly exceeded betting on the General Election so far, according to most bookies' reps.
Personally I think we should introduce a pb panel of 'experts' (long time contributors) to give their predictions. Have people of various political persuasions too.
Can I just say that Chris Bryant's latest - unsubstantiated - accusation is really vile.
The question about Telegraph sitting on email re: child abuse?
Yes. And the way in which he has now put what he claims to be the contents of email into the public domain.
He's retweeting Tom Watson... Unless you're talking about something else?
Chris Bryant retweeted tom_watson @tom_watson · 5h 5 hours ago Are executives at the Telegraph sitting on emails that may help the police inquiry into child abuse? medium.com/@tom_watson/the-revelatio…
Personally I think we should introduce a pb panel of 'experts' (long time contributors) to give their predictions. Have people of various political persuasions too.
It was entertaining enough the last time it was done!
@Roger Ahh, but he has delivered Universal Credit under budget.... the papers were full of it (actually the papers are always full of "IT") Which budget, and which part seems to be shrouded in mystery, along with coherent figures from his department.
It's amazing how any project can come in under budget when you write gigantic chunks of it off.
Sad that it would have to come to this, but I'd be happy to do this in the UK
Norwegian Muslims plan to form a “ring of peace” around a synagogue in Oslo this Saturday as a gesture of solidarity with the Jewish community in the Scandinavian country.
“If the jihadists want to use violence in the name of Islam, they must go through us Muslims first,” one of the event’s planners told Hope Not Hate, a grassroots anti-extremism organization based in Britain.
“Muslims want to show that we deeply despise all types hatred of Jews, and that we are there to support them,” the group said in a statement to Hope Not Hate.
That must be the most ludicrous set of forecasts ever produced , Lib Dems to gain Derb shire Dales and Bedford , numerous Green gains and Plaid almost sweeping Wales , What planet does the forecaster come from ?
That must be the most ludicrous set of forecasts ever produced , Lib Dems to gain Derb shire Dales and Bedford , numerous Green gains and Plaid almost sweeping Wales , What planet does the forecaster come from ?
Hah - amongst the ludicrous ones though some are quite plausible. Yeovil for instance...
Redcar is a bit of an oddity though. Should be an easy retake for Labour. But as the party has just deselected most of the sitting councillors leading to a symbolic tearing up a big Labour membership card for the meeja outside our PPC's office, who knows what will happen
Redcar is a bit of an oddity though. Should be an easy retake for Labour. But as the party has just deselected most of the sitting councillors leading to a symbolic tearing up a big Labour membership card for the meeja outside our PPC's office, who knows what will happen
Dunno but 50+% for the Lib Dems there is for the birds.
Redcar is a bit of an oddity though. Should be an easy retake for Labour. But as the party has just deselected most of the sitting councillors leading to a symbolic tearing up a big Labour membership card for the meeja outside our PPC's office, who knows what will happen
So long as Vera Baird isn't the Labour candidate, Labour gain nailed on.
Somebody with a laughable expectation of UKIP's performance by the look of the spreadsheet.
Despite the incredulously bullish Lib Dem expectation in England, whoever has done the spreadsheet still forecasts the Lib Dems to finish 4th or lower in Norwich South.
Is 14-1 the longest odds for any MP to hold their seat at this moment in time ?
Redcar is a bit of an oddity though. Should be an easy retake for Labour. But as the party has just deselected most of the sitting councillors leading to a symbolic tearing up a big Labour membership card for the meeja outside our PPC's office, who knows what will happen
Voters rarely pay attention to the shenanigans of councillors but it does seem like more of a feud / personality clash than an average deselection row. I see the independents actually held on to the leadership of the council. One was talking about the possibility of running for the Greens in May (the President of the RMT is the Green party GE candidate there) but I have no idea what if any approaches have been made. Would have been even more fun if Swales had not stood down already.
Well why not. Stockton South MP James Wharton keeps taking photos of himself on Stockton High Street and campaigning on it as an issue in his leaflets.
Stockton High Street is in Stockton North with Alex Cunningham as the MP.
Somebody with a laughable expectation of UKIP's performance by the look of the spreadsheet.
Despite the incredulously bullish Lib Dem expectation in England, whoever has done the spreadsheet still forecasts the Lib Dems to finish 4th or lower in Norwich South.
Is 14-1 the longest odds for any MP to hold their seat at this moment in time ?
The Lib Dems will certainly finish 4th in Norwich South
Well why not. Stockton South MP James Wharton keeps taking photos of himself on Stockton High Street and campaigning on it as an issue in his leaflets.
Stockton High Street is in Stockton North with Alex Cunningham as the MP.
That's a bit different, surely? - the High Street is of interest to residents in both constituencies.
Stop talking about Labour gaining Enfield Southgate.
It brings back bad memories for us Blues
Lab won the 2014 locals here. GE turnout should be even better for them. You can see why the local MP is out canvassing though it would be better for him to stay within the constituency. 8/1 is not bad at all...
Can I just say that Chris Bryant's latest - unsubstantiated - accusation is really vile.
The question about Telegraph sitting on email re: child abuse?
Yes. And the way in which he has now put what he claims to be the contents of email into the public domain.
He's retweeting Tom Watson... Unless you're talking about something else?
Chris Bryant retweeted tom_watson @tom_watson · 5h 5 hours ago Are executives at the Telegraph sitting on emails that may help the police inquiry into child abuse? medium.com/@tom_watson/the-revelatio…
Implication from here is that it is Bryant not watson making the comments
Sad that it would have to come to this, but I'd be happy to do this in the UK
Norwegian Muslims plan to form a “ring of peace” around a synagogue in Oslo this Saturday as a gesture of solidarity with the Jewish community in the Scandinavian country.
“If the jihadists want to use violence in the name of Islam, they must go through us Muslims first,” one of the event’s planners told Hope Not Hate, a grassroots anti-extremism organization based in Britain.
“Muslims want to show that we deeply despise all types hatred of Jews, and that we are there to support them,” the group said in a statement to Hope Not Hate.
Interesting that Shadsy has Labour on 278, just ahead of the Tories on 272 in this first PB.com GE 2015 seats competition. For those of a nervous disposition or for anyone considering their first political bet, one can do a whole lot worse than simply following the lead set by the Sage of the Magic Sign ..... I'll be surprised if he's more than 10 seats out on either of these assessments.
Btw, are the powers that be any closer to settling on a venue for an all-night gathering of PBers on GE night after considerable initial enthusiasm for such an event had been expressed?
I'll be surprised if he's more than 10 seats out on either of these assessments.
Given that we're in February, I expect shadsy himself will be pretty surprised if he's within 10 seats on both. As should anyone, whatever their prediction. Even MikeK might be 10 seats out if UKIP just do a bit better in Glasgow.
Well why not. Stockton South MP James Wharton keeps taking photos of himself on Stockton High Street and campaigning on it as an issue in his leaflets.
Stockton High Street is in Stockton North with Alex Cunningham as the MP.
That's a bit different, surely? - the High Street is of interest to residents in both constituencies.
Lots of things are of interest outside the constituency. Point is that MPs aren't supposed to cross boundaries without informing the relevant MP. Wharton does it a lot (to the point of a public reprimand from the speaker).
Are all vote share predictions screwing up the averages. I assume Bill97 is counting on a "Respect" surge - which is no more ludicrous than MikeK's prediction.
Stop talking about Labour gaining Enfield Southgate.
It brings back bad memories for us Blues
Lab won the 2014 locals here. GE turnout should be even better for them. You can see why the local MP is out canvassing though it would be better for him to stay within the constituency. 8/1 is not bad at all...
Labour won the 1986 locals in Finchley. The 1987 result was somewhat different.
If Labour take Southgate, they'll have a majority of 100 or so.
I'll be surprised if he's more than 10 seats out on either of these assessments.
Given that we're in February, I expect shadsy himself will be pretty surprised if he's within 10 seats on both. As should anyone, whatever their prediction. Even MikeK might be 10 seats out if UKIP just do a bit better in Glasgow.
There was a cricket-specialist firm that let you pick your own 55-run middle (on an ODI innings) at even money. Surprisingly large, isn't it?
Likewise I think one could let people name their own 35-seat band for either of the major parties at present and lay that at evens.
Well why not. Stockton South MP James Wharton keeps taking photos of himself on Stockton High Street and campaigning on it as an issue in his leaflets.
Stockton High Street is in Stockton North with Alex Cunningham as the MP.
That's a bit different, surely? - the High Street is of interest to residents in both constituencies.
Lots of things are of interest outside the constituency. Point is that MPs aren't supposed to cross boundaries without informing the relevant MP. Wharton does it a lot (to the point of a public reprimand from the speaker).
You've got to feel sorry for MP for Westminster, all those other MPs invading their turf!
Redcar is a bit of an oddity though. Should be an easy retake for Labour. But as the party has just deselected most of the sitting councillors leading to a symbolic tearing up a big Labour membership card for the meeja outside our PPC's office, who knows what will happen
The only way Labour don't gain Redcar is if The Disgruntled form a Redcar Independents group..... That would throw all the pieces up in the air.
Stop talking about Labour gaining Enfield Southgate.
It brings back bad memories for us Blues
Lab won the 2014 locals here. GE turnout should be even better for them. You can see why the local MP is out canvassing though it would be better for him to stay within the constituency. 8/1 is not bad at all...
Labour won the 1986 locals in Finchley. The 1987 result was somewhat different.
If Labour take Southgate, they'll have a majority of 100 or so.
Not if they bomb in the Midlands they won't - not enough Marginals/semi-marginals in London for a major surge there to counteract a poor performance in the Midlands.
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Papers playing by Tory rules you mean, but not all the media are poodles?
But yeah, I like Omaha high/low > Omaha > Holdem > Stud > Draw
More over-round than the Grand National SPs.
It rather supports the view that odds of 1/4 NOM (1.25 Betfair) are generous.
8/1 with BFSB
That's definitely not a betting tip
IDS (RTB)?
Lib Dem getting over 50% of the vote in Redcar...
Please give it up as you look more stupid with each post.
Anyhow, never mind your humorous yet pusillanimous entry: who do you actually think will win, young man?
"You've clearly never met the man.
I can tell you he would never be gratuitously rude to someone he has never met."
Happily I haven't but a quick flick through the wiki entry I posted will show you why that doesn't upset me. He and truth are strangers and to accuse a fellow politician of dirty dealing shows the measure of the man. But if you really want a judgement of the man you call friend read this.....
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/12/iain-duncan-smith-fiddling-figures
Ahh, but he has delivered Universal Credit under budget.... the papers were full of it (actually the papers are always full of "IT")
Which budget, and which part seems to be shrouded in mystery, along with coherent figures from his department.
EDIT: Oh. That one. Jesus. Wasn't he a vicar, as well?
Basically people are bad at Pot Limit.
Chris Bryant retweeted
tom_watson @tom_watson · 5h 5 hours ago
Are executives at the Telegraph sitting on emails that may help the police inquiry into child abuse? medium.com/@tom_watson/the-revelatio…
"Which side of the bet do you want ?"
I want to bet on Reckless. It seems very few of the bookmakers are taking constituency bets
Norwegian Muslims plan to form a “ring of peace” around a synagogue in Oslo this Saturday as a gesture of solidarity with the Jewish community in the Scandinavian country.
“If the jihadists want to use violence in the name of Islam, they must go through us Muslims first,” one of the event’s planners told Hope Not Hate, a grassroots anti-extremism organization based in Britain.
“Muslims want to show that we deeply despise all types hatred of Jews, and that we are there to support them,” the group said in a statement to Hope Not Hate.
http://www.jpost.com/International/Norwegian-Muslims-to-form-ring-of-peace-around-Oslo-synagogue-as-gesture-of-solidarity-with-Jews-391381
Given Ladbrokes is 8-11, definitely value if you aren't in already.
Things will get worse before they get better. How much worse depends most of all on the political class, as well as the media.
The must be a bucketful of 'should be a labour retake, but...' seats
http://labourlist.org/2015/02/tory-mp-goes-doorknocking-in-the-wrong-constituency/
Nurse!!
There's some sloppy errors like getting Dumfries and Galloway confused with Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale & Tweedsdale along with the insanity
Is 14-1 the longest odds for any MP to hold their seat at this moment in time ?
Stockton High Street is in Stockton North with Alex Cunningham as the MP.
If they can beat UKIP.
https://www.redbridge.gov.uk/electionresults/2014/local
Obviously those are relevant to Ilford North....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enfield_Council_election,_2014
It brings back bad memories for us Blues
Lib Dem GAIN Bedford !
Bedford LD 35.6% CON 31.9% LAB 29.9%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESxaGRjXhCk
http://order-order.com/2015/02/18/tories-deny-watsons-theory-re-bryant-and-thetelegraph/
The quiet man...
Btw, are the powers that be any closer to settling on a venue for an all-night gathering of PBers on GE night after considerable initial enthusiasm for such an event had been expressed?
This is what happened to their PPC - http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/ukip-parliamentary-candidate-leaves-over-chairman-s-criminal-record-1-6546275
That said, this election is very difficult to call.
£1000 per month is what you spend on lunch. (Copyright: Neil Kinnock)
And you can get your hedge cut for £10. (Copyright: Ed Balls)
MikeK 6 2 0 604 1 19
Warren Swan 29 28 6 24 7 4
trev bevan 29 37 10 8 10 6
Joshua Dixon 31 31 14 13 5 5
Pete Garrard 32 37 6 14 4 3
richard prew 34 32 10 11 6 7
Matthew Duddy 35 29 10 10 5 3
Theo Barclay 35 33 8 12 6 6
Mr_James 36 36 12 8 4 2
barry clark 39 27 7 8 2 14
Are all vote share predictions screwing up the averages. I assume Bill97 is counting on a "Respect" surge - which is no more ludicrous than MikeK's prediction.
Pay Per View....
If Labour take Southgate, they'll have a majority of 100 or so.
Likewise I think one could let people name their own 35-seat band for either of the major parties at present and lay that at evens.