One of the UK Independence party’s most generous donors has dropped his threat never to fund the party again, and plans to spend £100,000 helping to run its general election campaign.
Stuart Wheeler, who has given Ukip more than £700,000 during the past five years, has threatened to stop donating to the party after a row over the fate of his ally Neil Hamilton, the party’s deputy chairman.
But in an interview with the Financial Times, Mr Wheeler said he had decided to give a further £100,000 during the next few months in an effort to secure the seats Ukip is targeting at May’s election.
Despite his donations, Mr Wheeler predicted the party would fall well short of the £7m-£8m target he said had been set by Nigel Farage, the party’s leader.
Surprised nobody has mentioned why Eddy Spheroids gets receipts for everything...expenses...remember his / his wifes were a very interesting setup and it was only a friendly Telegraph journo of his that decided they weren't worth more of a look into.
Also, I see that Ed Miliband is being business friendly again...YOU MUST TAKE APRRENTICES OR ELSE...don't mean to be funny, but not all businesses are applicable for taking apprentices. Also, he is again making these blanket commitments that all young people with x grades get one, the only way that is possible is if the state are going to start creating lots of them in the public sector, which means one thing...more spending.
Gordo used to make these kind of promises and of course found it just isn't that simple. Same with Ed's "I will get x thousand more home carers" even though he can't make that happen.
Surprised nobody has mentioned why Eddy Spheroids gets receipts for everything...expenses...remember his / his wives were a very interesting setup and it was only a friendly Telegraph journo of his that decided they weren't worth more of a look into.
I imagine his receipts were in order for his house transactions...
One of the UK Independence party’s most generous donors has dropped his threat never to fund the party again, and plans to spend £100,000 helping to run its general election campaign.
Stuart Wheeler, who has given Ukip more than £700,000 during the past five years, has threatened to stop donating to the party after a row over the fate of his ally Neil Hamilton, the party’s deputy chairman.
But in an interview with the Financial Times, Mr Wheeler said he had decided to give a further £100,000 during the next few months in an effort to secure the seats Ukip is targeting at May’s election.
Despite his donations, Mr Wheeler predicted the party would fall well short of the £7m-£8m target he said had been set by Nigel Farage, the party’s leader.
Surprised nobody has mentioned why Eddy Spheroids gets receipts for everything...expenses...remember his / his wifes were a very interesting setup and it was only a friendly Telegraph journo of his that decided they weren't worth more of a look into.
Also, I see that Ed Miliband is being business friendly again...YOU MUST TAKE APRRENTICES OR ELSE...don't mean to be funny, but not all businesses are applicable for taking apprentices. Also, he is again making these blanket commitments that all young people with x grades get one, the only way that is possible is if the state are going to start creating lots of them in the public sector, which means one thing...more spending.
Gordo used to make these kind of promises and of course found it just isn't that simple. Same with Ed's "I will get x thousand more home carers" even though he can't make that happen.
Unless their promises get the proper level of scrutiny, it won't matter a jot. Sounds good to his target audience.
On the plus side, the more leftward he travels, the more clear-blue-water opens up and the more polarised the election becomes. In this event, I would expect to see some claw-back from the UKIP highs and a reduction in others.
Interesting conversation about receipts cash etc. I think most people who get work done where the bill is over say £300 and the workman asks for cash (they know where you live so no question about the probity of your cheque/card) are telling you that they want the transaction to be unrecorded.
As Izzy says any workman can demand cash. What would be interesting is knowing whether you bear any responsibility if he says i'll give you £50 discount for cash without receipt?
So to be clear. "Ed's great week" has so far seen Labour lead slashed by a third as the newspapers might have it, or 'no change' as those a little better versed in MOE & so forth would see it?
Just as well his major Economy announcement wasn't distracted by any extraneous factors.....
Interesting conversation about receipts cash etc. I think most people who get work done where the bill is over say £300 and the workman asks for cash (they know where you live so no question about the probity of your cheque/card) are telling you that they want the transaction to be unrecorded.
As Izzy says any workman can demand cash. What would be interesting is knowing whether you bear any responsibility if he says i'll give you £50 discount for cash without receipt?
Workman paid in cash, bad job, letter to HMRC with hints about odd bookeeping.
Interesting conversation about receipts cash etc. I think most people who get work done where the bill is over say £300 and the workman asks for cash (they know where you live so no question about the probity of your cheque/card) are telling you that they want the transaction to be unrecorded.
As Izzy says any workman can demand cash. What would be interesting is knowing whether you bear any responsibility if he says i'll give you £50 discount for cash without receipt?
Really...have you seen how much credit card companies charge...especially if the customer is waving an American Express card. My local mechanic recently informed me that he wont take AE anymore and is reviewing all the costs of other providers.
When I saw the populus I thought the drops for both Labour & Conservative was down to the negativity generated by all the mudslinging nonsense about legal tax avoidance. The I saw ICM - and it suggests that the s*** is primarily hitting Labour. What joy!:)
"Martin Boon, of ICM Unlimited, cautions against putting too much weight on any single survey, but also said: “As the days tick down to 7 May, it could just be that some of those voters who have been flirting with upstart parties during much of this parliament are finally returning to the more established political tribes, and to the Conservatives in particular.”
Obviously not as confident as the Tory Pom Pom girls on here
Interesting conversation about receipts cash etc. I think most people who get work done where the bill is over say £300 and the workman asks for cash (they know where you live so no question about the probity of your cheque/card) are telling you that they want the transaction to be unrecorded.
As Izzy says any workman can demand cash. What would be interesting is knowing whether you bear any responsibility if he says i'll give you £50 discount for cash without receipt?
Businesses need turnover of c £80k or more to be VAT registered. Many local businesses like window cleaners or hedge trimmers do not charge VAT.
It's up to the trader to provide an invoice. Labour as ever don't understand either small companies or the tax laws.
Can I be the first to say it's good to have ICM back as the Gold Standard
The Grauniad agrees:
But having come closest to predicting three of the last four general elections, ICM’s regular phone poll for the Guardian is seen as the gold standard, and so Monday’s result will bring the Tories particular cheer.
"Martin Boon, of ICM Unlimited, cautions against putting too much weight on any single survey, but also said: “As the days tick down to 7 May, it could just be that some of those voters who have been flirting with upstart parties during much of this parliament are finally returning to the more established political tribes, and to the Conservatives in particular.”
Obviously not as confident as the Tory Pom Pom girls on here
It is clearly an outlier..I think what we are seeing though is the full on assault by Labour / Guardian / BBC over tax issues doesn't seem to have moved the needle at all towards Labour. I think for us who bet for a living that is significant.
"But having come closest to predicting three of the last four general elections, ICM’s regular phone poll for the Guardian is seen as the gold standard, and so Monday’s result will bring the Tories particular cheer."
Well I sometimes read the Guardian but had no idea they read me!
"Martin Boon, of ICM Unlimited, cautions against putting too much weight on any single survey, but also said: “As the days tick down to 7 May, it could just be that some of those voters who have been flirting with upstart parties during much of this parliament are finally returning to the more established political tribes, and to the Conservatives in particular.”
Obviously not as confident as the Tory Pom Pom girls on here
Because there is a more than 50% chance that this is an outlier. Remember what Mike says about polling companies, it is the ones without outliers that are not reliable. The key is figuring out what the outliers actually are, on the face of it this is probably an outlier, ICM just can't come out and declare that their poll is probably rubbish though.
1) 1 in 20 polls is an outlier 2) You can't call a trend based on one poll, we need to some more polling 3) But it is ICM, the Gold Standard, but 1 and 2 still apply.
Interesting conversation about receipts cash etc. I think most people who get work done where the bill is over say £300 and the workman asks for cash (they know where you live so no question about the probity of your cheque/card) are telling you that they want the transaction to be unrecorded.
As Izzy says any workman can demand cash. What would be interesting is knowing whether you bear any responsibility if he says i'll give you £50 discount for cash without receipt?
Businesses need turnover of c £80k or more to be VAT registered. Many local businesses like window cleaners or hedge trimmers do not charge VAT.
It's up to the trader to provide an invoice. Labour as ever don't understand either small companies or the tax laws.
At that level its more likely they wont put it through the books at all. VAT or no VAT
"Martin Boon, of ICM Unlimited, cautions against putting too much weight on any single survey, but also said: “As the days tick down to 7 May, it could just be that some of those voters who have been flirting with upstart parties during much of this parliament are finally returning to the more established political tribes, and to the Conservatives in particular.”
Obviously not as confident as the Tory Pom Pom girls on here
It is clearly an outlier..I think what we are seeing though is the full on assault by Labour / Guardian / BBC over tax issues doesn't seem to have moved the needle at all towards Labour. I think for us who bet for a living that is significant.
Tax avoidance is mostly preaching to the converted [though some of those have fecked off to the Greens & SNP, hence the necessity of doing so]. Elections are won in the centre ground.
1) 1 in 20 polls is an outlier 2) You can't call a trend based on one poll, we need to some more polling 3) But it is ICM, the Gold Standard, but 1 and 2 still apply.
Didn't ICM have Labour in front by a big amount last August when the rest of the polls were showing it to be very tight? What are the chances of two outliers in six months?
"Ever since Miliband was told on Thursday of Lord Fink’s admission, just before delivering a speech on education at his old school, the mood in the Labour Party has been transformed. Even frontbenchers who used to fear the worst are now wondering how long Tory discipline can hold if Labour’s slim lead in the polls continues. One of them quips: ‘I wonder when they’ll start to get the willies.’"
"But having come closest to predicting three of the last four general elections, ICM’s regular phone poll for the Guardian is seen as the gold standard, and so Monday’s result will bring the Tories particular cheer."
Well I sometimes read the Guardian but had no idea they read me!
I'm sure they hang on every word.......
John Rentoul either posts here, reads here, or thinks the same as some of the posters on here, as ideas first floated here often end up in his column.....
I think the polling point that 'Miliband has poorer ratings in Scotland than Cameron' first saw the light of day here......
"Martin Boon, of ICM Unlimited, cautions against putting too much weight on any single survey, but also said: “As the days tick down to 7 May, it could just be that some of those voters who have been flirting with upstart parties during much of this parliament are finally returning to the more established political tribes, and to the Conservatives in particular.”
Obviously not as confident as the Tory Pom Pom girls on here
Because there is a more than 50% chance that this is an outlier. Remember what Mike says about polling companies, it is the ones without outliers that are not reliable. The key is figuring out what the outliers actually are, on the face of it this is probably an outlier, ICM just can't come out and declare that their poll is probably rubbish though.
Outlier doesn't mean ignore. It just means that the true position is probably closer to what you would have expected.
Really we should just treat all polls as new information and feed them into our prior expectation - and that prior expectation should be affected both by other polls, and by events.
1) 1 in 20 polls is an outlier 2) You can't call a trend based on one poll, we need to some more polling 3) But it is ICM, the Gold Standard, but 1 and 2 still apply.
Didn't ICM have Labour in front by a big amount last August when the rest of the polls were showing it to be very tight? What are the chances of two outliers in six months?
They did, when either side, it was a Tory lead of 1/Lab lead of 2.
I have my own theory, that we're going to see more outliers in 6 party politics.
Edit: I have asked if ICM have changed their methodology, but normally they flag up in advance if they have undertaken a change in methodology.
Tories up a lot, Labour well within the MoE. I think that should count as a good poll for the Tories rather than a particularly bad one for Labour...but then again we live in an era of bashing our enemies rather than touting our own credentials.
Labour lead 1.5% largest for 4 weeks Labour's 33.9% largest ELBOW score this year UKIP have their lowest ELBOW score 14.2% since 5th October LibDem lead of 1.3% over Greens largest for 5 weeks Greens lowest score 6.2% of this year
You should chuck those grapes, they seem to be a bit sour.
But there does seem to be something of a pattern, Anorak, whereby Labour register a string of small leads which are interrupted occasionally by a thumping great Tory lead.
It's usually Lord Ashcroft, but this time ICM. Not sure what to make of it.
With UKIP's share of the vote in single figures, perhaps Stuart Wheeler will decide that discretion is the better part of valour and keep his would-be donor cash in his trousers.
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Stuart Wheeler, who has given Ukip more than £700,000 during the past five years, has threatened to stop donating to the party after a row over the fate of his ally Neil Hamilton, the party’s deputy chairman.
But in an interview with the Financial Times, Mr Wheeler said he had decided to give a further £100,000 during the next few months in an effort to secure the seats Ukip is targeting at May’s election.
Despite his donations, Mr Wheeler predicted the party would fall well short of the £7m-£8m target he said had been set by Nigel Farage, the party’s leader.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/bbce45fa-ac7f-11e4-9aaa-00144feab7de.html#axzz3RudC7aHV
Also, I see that Ed Miliband is being business friendly again...YOU MUST TAKE APRRENTICES OR ELSE...don't mean to be funny, but not all businesses are applicable for taking apprentices. Also, he is again making these blanket commitments that all young people with x grades get one, the only way that is possible is if the state are going to start creating lots of them in the public sector, which means one thing...more spending.
Gordo used to make these kind of promises and of course found it just isn't that simple. Same with Ed's "I will get x thousand more home carers" even though he can't make that happen.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5325590/Ed-Balls-and-Yvette-Cooper-flipped-homes-three-times-MPs-expenses.html
Both Ed's talking plenty of spheroids at the moment, sadly a lot of voters will believe them.
"I have given money for two particular constituencies — South Thanet and Ashford. "
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/2015guide/ashford/
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UKIP's best fundraising year to date was 2013, £2.4 million.
http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/find-information-by-subject/political-parties-campaigning-and-donations/political-parties-annual-accounts/details-of-accounts
Con 36 (+6) Lab 32 (-1) LD 10 (-1) UKIP 9 (-2) Greens 7 (-2)
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/16/tories-up-six-points-latest-icm-opinion-poll
On the plus side, the more leftward he travels, the more clear-blue-water opens up and the more polarised the election becomes. In this event, I would expect to see some claw-back from the UKIP highs and a reduction in others.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02k40z5
Edit: not for long, obviously
I think I might have damaged a rib or two laughing.
As Izzy says any workman can demand cash. What would be interesting is knowing whether you bear any responsibility if he says i'll give you £50 discount for cash without receipt?
Cross over.
Outlier?
Call in the respondents for re-education.
Just as well his major Economy announcement wasn't distracted by any extraneous factors.....
Share price in tisues has just rocketed.
Those goalposts have just dropped onto Basil's head.
Oh well, I expect normal business will resume shortly, but you'd need a heart of stone...etc, etc...
Don't disappear now, TSE ...... just when we need you to present those deep blue bar charts.
Perhaps OGH will do the honours instead?
Obviously not as confident as the Tory Pom Pom girls on here
It's up to the trader to provide an invoice. Labour as ever don't understand either small companies or the tax laws.
I've heard its only their final poll that matters...
But having come closest to predicting three of the last four general elections, ICM’s regular phone poll for the Guardian is seen as the gold standard, and so Monday’s result will bring the Tories particular cheer.
No wonder Labour are desperate to keep photos of Ed's nowhere near their campaign literature.
"But having come closest to predicting three of the last four general elections, ICM’s regular phone poll for the Guardian is seen as the gold standard, and so Monday’s result will bring the Tories particular cheer."
Well I sometimes read the Guardian but had no idea they read me!
Now I'm going to sit in the corner and p1ss myself laughing
1) 1 in 20 polls is an outlier
2) You can't call a trend based on one poll, we need to some more polling
3) But it is ICM, the Gold Standard, but 1 and 2 still apply.
We are all cartoonists now!
Heartless ex-Tory contributing to unemployment.
Just goes to show how damaging it was to Conservative chances at this election to lose that vote.
Out of the last 28 polls Tory lead in 4
Then again, if 99% of the polls this year were right I would win quite a lot...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2954033/JAMES-FORSYTH-Watch-Ed-tax-triumph-bite-backside.html
"Ever since Miliband was told on Thursday of Lord Fink’s admission, just before delivering a speech on education at his old school, the mood in the Labour Party has been transformed.
Even frontbenchers who used to fear the worst are now wondering how long Tory discipline can hold if Labour’s slim lead in the polls continues.
One of them quips: ‘I wonder when they’ll start to get the willies.’"
John Rentoul either posts here, reads here, or thinks the same as some of the posters on here, as ideas first floated here often end up in his column.....
I think the polling point that 'Miliband has poorer ratings in Scotland than Cameron' first saw the light of day here......
The Tories are feeling the surge, but it will be a b*gger to clean off of their keyboards
Really we should just treat all polls as new information and feed them into our prior expectation - and that prior expectation should be affected both by other polls, and by events.
I have my own theory, that we're going to see more outliers in 6 party politics.
Edit: I have asked if ICM have changed their methodology, but normally they flag up in advance if they have undertaken a change in methodology.
"Another day down - another day without a breakthrough for the Tories - another day closer to Ed Miliband being PM.
I wonder if the press will suddenly panic and go into reverse. Realise the inevitable and try and buy some favours from Ed?"
Now he knows what recency bias is.
That said, it is obviously in the bag for Dave now. All we need is a deck of cards to occupy our time between now and the formality of May 7.
For example, in December they had the Tories on 28% - Now they have them at 36%...
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/voting-intention-2/icm
https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/567038686290653184
Labour lead 1.5% largest for 4 weeks
Labour's 33.9% largest ELBOW score this year
UKIP have their lowest ELBOW score 14.2% since 5th October
LibDem lead of 1.3% over Greens largest for 5 weeks
Greens lowest score 6.2% of this year
It's usually Lord Ashcroft, but this time ICM. Not sure what to make of it.
https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/567039449570107393
https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/567055328991514624