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  • FT - Donations slump as Labour’s wealthy business backers flee

  • perdixperdix Posts: 1,806

    Australia joins Song Contest. Great - another country that won't vote for the UK.

    They will.

    Hell we even had an Aussie represent us in the Eurovision Song Contest
    Could we get together an Australian European Union with several EU members kicked out? Answers on a large postcard please.

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937

    FT - Donations slump as Labour’s wealthy business backers flee

    Good job Labour don't need a big injection of funds to shore up their Scottish heartlands.

    Oh.....

  • MTimT said:

    SandraM said:

    Will gays and greys be getting their own Labour battle buses?

    Soon there will be a whole fleet, or a caravan. So hot pink for wimmin, grey for old farts, rainbow for LGBT. Green for environmentalists. What colour(s) for new immigrants, union folk, students, public sector employees, teachers, health workers etc... I mean, surely there should be a bus for each of the interest groups?
    They should do it like the publicity caravan for Le Tour de France where they throw freebies out to people at the side of the road.

    I got a cow keyring. I treasure it.
    I got a nice Skoda hat amongst other things

  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,195

    FT - Donations slump as Labour’s wealthy business backers flee

    I have always thought that if Labour is getting support from 'wealthy business', then we must be doing something wrong.
  • AndyJS said:

    Two more police forces have been monitoring buyers of the Charlie Hebdo magazine:

    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/feb/10/police-several-forces-seek-details-charlie-hebdo-readers

    Nice to know they haven't anything more important to do...

    I told you there would be more.

    Anyone discovered buying it will be recorded on some 'hate crimes' list.
    I doubt these will be the last examples to come out.

  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    MikeK said:

    AndyJS said:

    "UKIP —the first 100 days". On Channel 4, Monday, 9pm.

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/ukip-the-first-100-days

    Probably a programme to blacken the name of UKIP, even if it is based on a seeming fantasy.
    -------------

    Anyway lets talk about the Greens:

    Vicky ‏@2tweetaboutit 25m25 minutes ago
    Greens finally admit a thousand members have not paid up | @MrSteerpike http://specc.ie/1AT57qv via @spectator

    The whole inflated Green membership scam is beginning to come undone. First 1,000 then.............
    Usual spectator nonsense.

    The actual figure is around 340 members may be lapsed but still counted.

    Steerpike just can't count.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937

    FT - Donations slump as Labour’s wealthy business backers flee

    I have always thought that if Labour is getting support from 'wealthy business', then we must be doing something wrong.
    Like winning elections?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,975
    Every time Cameron appears on the news giving his "I warn you...." speech you realize that he's not even a patch on Kinnock
  • Roger said:

    Every time Cameron appears on the news giving his "I warn you...." speech you realize that he's not even a patch on Kinnock

    LOL
  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245
    Roger said:

    Every time Cameron appears on the news giving his "I warn you...." speech you realize that he's not even a patch on Kinnock

    Yet he's the prime minister and Kinnock is a blowhard failure, life's strange.
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    Roger said:

    Every time Cameron appears on the news giving his "I warn you...." speech you realize that he's not even a patch on Kinnock

    No, you thank your lucky stars he isn't Kinnock
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    ***Calling anyone who had the UKIP seats x 4 to equal or beat LD seats***

    I only made a note of the bets with JohnO, Audrey and DavidL.. anyone else get involved? @Charles maybe?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,587

    I can't believe we have descended to Pinkvangate. Is there no real politics left to discuss?

    You mean that hasn't blown over in the last four hours?

    This is all the fault of fixed-term Parliaments. If it weren't for the fact that we know the election will certainly be on 7th May we would all be occupied with speculation on when the election would be called.
    So...nothing would actually be that different, only instead of knowing an election was on a certain date and engaging in petty politics, there'd be some uncertainty and engaging in petty politics?
  • @Sun_Politics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour have two-point lead over the Tories: CON 33%, LAB 35%, LD 6%, UKIP 13%, GRN 8%
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    edited February 2015
    Is that the sound of tumbling PB Hodges falling down the Crossover Polling Hill......AGAIN?

    The Last 19 polls, three Tory leads from Super Leader and Political Strategist Extraordinaire Cameron and only 11 polling leads for Ed is crap.

    January is the crossover month......February pulling away month.

    BASILISCIOUS!
  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245

    FT - Donations slump as Labour’s wealthy business backers flee

    I have always thought that if Labour is getting support from 'wealthy business', then we must be doing something wrong.
    Without wealthy business, who pays for the sweeties so beloved of progressives, such as yourself?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,975
    Sandra

    "Will gays and greys be getting their own Labour battle buses?"

    The gays are sharing the women's pink one
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    isam said:

    ***Calling anyone who had the UKIP seats x 4 to equal or beat LD seats***

    I only made a note of the bets with JohnO, Audrey and DavidL.. anyone else get involved? @Charles maybe?

    Yes, but I forget the terms.

    I'm still confident that the Lib Dems will make it into double figures...
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    35% strategy back on track!
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    @Sun_Politics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour have two-point lead over the Tories: CON 33%, LAB 35%, LD 6%, UKIP 13%, GRN 8%

    Rogue poll, evidently.

    That, or voodoo...may be an outlier? Definitely not Gold Standard....
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    Danny565 said:

    35% strategy back on track!

    SSSSSHHHHH don't mention the poll.Look..... Basil!
  • When are we expecting Swingover-Crossback to occur?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    Charles said:

    @Sun_Politics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour have two-point lead over the Tories: CON 33%, LAB 35%, LD 6%, UKIP 13%, GRN 8%

    Rogue poll, evidently.

    That, or voodoo...may be an outlier? Definitely not Gold Standard....
    Not what I am hearing on the doorstep. Did Unite pay for that. Labour bias polling company.
  • Is that the sound of tumbling PB Hodges falling down the Crossover Polling Hill......AGAIN?

    The Last 19 polls, three Tory leads from Super Leader and Political Strategist Extraordinaire Cameron and only 11 polling leads for Ed is crap.

    January is the crossover month......February pulling away month.

    BASILISCIOUS!

    Number of posts analysing 1pt Tory leads: 10,653
    Number of posts analysing polling average (forecast): 6
  • RobD said:

    AndyJS said:

    Thanks, I must have missed that discussion.

    AndyJS said:

    Apparently there was a BBC Woman's Hour poll done by TNS-BRMB giving Labour an 11% lead and putting them on 39% at the end of January. It was completely out of line with all other polls carried out at the time:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_United_Kingdom_general_election#2015

    Yes, we went over that at the time, and Number Cruncher got confirmation from TNS-BRMB that it hadn't been politically weighted. Unfortunately the Wikipedians are following process rather than using common sense.
    I wonder if I should keep it in my google doc (which hasn't been updated recently in any case).
    Remove it, it isn't a properly weighted poll.

    Either by past vote recall or demographics.

    Polls that aren't weighted are so 1992
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,587
    So, what will the first major act of PM Miliband's tenure be? Although he has put forth some ideas, I confess the idea there is a lack of clarity in what he will actually do does strike a chord with me, and other than a promise of a constitutional convention - one to fire up the public's imaginations, that, I am sure - I'm not really clear on what he will do to start off.

    I mean, I expect government departments to immediately stop making those nasty ideological cuts in favour of the pleasant Labour kind which for some reason the Tories left untouched despite being pretty painless of course, but that's more an ongoing theme than a catchy new policy to unveil quickly.
  • I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
  • glwglw Posts: 9,955
    kle4 said:

    So, what will the first major act of PM Miliband's tenure be?

    Probably closing the financial markets.
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371

    Is that the sound of tumbling PB Hodges falling down the Crossover Polling Hill......AGAIN?

    The Last 19 polls, three Tory leads from Super Leader and Political Strategist Extraordinaire Cameron and only 11 polling leads for Ed is crap.

    January is the crossover month......February pulling away month.

    BASILISCIOUS!

    Number of posts analysing 1pt Tory leads: 10,653
    Number of posts analysing polling average (forecast): 6
    PB Hodge rule number 1: Post loads of times about polls with a Tory lead
    PB Hodge rule number 2: Ignore all other polls
    PB Hodge rule number 3: Go back to rule number 1
  • kle4 said:

    So, what will the first major act of PM Miliband's tenure be? Although he has put forth some ideas, I confess the idea there is a lack of clarity in what he will actually do does strike a chord with me, and other than a promise of a constitutional convention - one to fire up the public's imaginations, that, I am sure - I'm not really clear on what he will do to start off.

    I mean, I expect government departments to immediately stop making those nasty ideological cuts in favour of the pleasant Labour kind which for some reason the Tories left untouched despite being pretty painless of course, but that's more an ongoing theme than a catchy new policy to unveil quickly.

    A lot will depend on the following

    1) Has he won the popular in i) GB ii) England

    2) What type of government he is leading, majority, minority, coalition/coalition with the Nats
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,587
    I used to think it was strange that some would have to rely on a 1992 'all the polls are/will be wrong' scenario (it is not impossible a Tory lead of significant enough size may emerge in the polls, but it is looking less and less likely the more times both sides hit their floor/ceiling) in order to end up with a Tory majority, but on reflection I think I get it. If it is correct, then everyone else looks a fool for getting their analysis so wrong and a great result is achieved. If it is wrong, well, there's not really anything that can be done to achieve a different outcome that is not already being tried, so why not go with the positive analysis.
  • Is that the sound of tumbling PB Hodges falling down the Crossover Polling Hill......AGAIN?

    The Last 19 polls, three Tory leads from Super Leader and Political Strategist Extraordinaire Cameron and only 11 polling leads for Ed is crap.

    January is the crossover month......February pulling away month.

    BASILISCIOUS!

    Number of posts analysing 1pt Tory leads: 10,653
    Number of posts analysing polling average (forecast): 6
    Are you sure you're not confusing 10,653 with the number of screen names you have on here?
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262

    Is that the sound of tumbling PB Hodges falling down the Crossover Polling Hill......AGAIN?

    The Last 19 polls, three Tory leads from Super Leader and Political Strategist Extraordinaire Cameron and only 11 polling leads for Ed is crap.

    January is the crossover month......February pulling away month.

    BASILISCIOUS!

    Number of posts analysing 1pt Tory leads: 10,653
    Number of posts analysing polling average (forecast): 6
    Number of variations of the login 'boba job': 537
  • Roger said:

    Every time Cameron appears on the news giving his "I warn you...." speech you realize that he's not even a patch on Kinnock

    :)
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371

    Is that the sound of tumbling PB Hodges falling down the Crossover Polling Hill......AGAIN?

    The Last 19 polls, three Tory leads from Super Leader and Political Strategist Extraordinaire Cameron and only 11 polling leads for Ed is crap.

    January is the crossover month......February pulling away month.

    BASILISCIOUS!

    Number of posts analysing 1pt Tory leads: 10,653
    Number of posts analysing polling average (forecast): 6
    Number of variations of the login 'boba job': 537

    Is that the sound of tumbling PB Hodges falling down the Crossover Polling Hill......AGAIN?

    The Last 19 polls, three Tory leads from Super Leader and Political Strategist Extraordinaire Cameron and only 11 polling leads for Ed is crap.

    January is the crossover month......February pulling away month.

    BASILISCIOUS!

    Number of posts analysing 1pt Tory leads: 10,653
    Number of posts analysing polling average (forecast): 6
    Are you sure you're not confusing 10,653 with the number of screen names you have on here?
    ECHO....ECHO.....ECHO....ECHO
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Thanks. 38 LD seems a courageous projection.



  • Roger said:

    Every time Cameron appears on the news giving his "I warn you...." speech you realize that he's not even a patch on Kinnock

    One of the weekend threads ask is Ed the new Kinnock?
  • saddosaddo Posts: 534

    @Sun_Politics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour have two-point lead over the Tories: CON 33%, LAB 35%, LD 6%, UKIP 13%, GRN 8%

    We must be underestimating the impact of the pretty pink van for gal's that Labour launched today.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,587

    kle4 said:

    So, what will the first major act of PM Miliband's tenure be? Although he has put forth some ideas, I confess the idea there is a lack of clarity in what he will actually do does strike a chord with me, and other than a promise of a constitutional convention - one to fire up the public's imaginations, that, I am sure - I'm not really clear on what he will do to start off.

    I mean, I expect government departments to immediately stop making those nasty ideological cuts in favour of the pleasant Labour kind which for some reason the Tories left untouched despite being pretty painless of course, but that's more an ongoing theme than a catchy new policy to unveil quickly.

    A lot will depend on the following

    1) Has he won the popular in i) GB ii) England

    2) What type of government he is leading, majority, minority, coalition/coalition with the Nats
    True. On present evidence a comfortable majority looks hard to obtain, and winning the popular vote is no certainty. Assuming the SNP surge happens as predicted, I'm guessing Ed will be just short a majority but not get a full coalition with anyone.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Charles said:

    isam said:

    ***Calling anyone who had the UKIP seats x 4 to equal or beat LD seats***

    I only made a note of the bets with JohnO, Audrey and DavidL.. anyone else get involved? @Charles maybe?

    Yes, but I forget the terms.

    I'm still confident that the Lib Dems will make it into double figures...
    It was Even money but I forget the amount

    Call it £50?
  • I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Those who prefer polling have ... the polls.

    We plumbed new depths today when Jack informed us that some Arse seats* were decided by just three votes. This in what is a made up forecast.



    *One for the pun-fans to enjoy
  • I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Thanks. 38 LD seems a courageous projection.



    Jack has always been bullish on the Lib Dem numbers.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,326

    AndyJS said:

    Two more police forces have been monitoring buyers of the Charlie Hebdo magazine:

    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/feb/10/police-several-forces-seek-details-charlie-hebdo-readers

    Nice to know they haven't anything more important to do...

    I told you there would be more.

    Anyone discovered buying it will be recorded on some 'hate crimes' list.
    I doubt these will be the last examples to come out.

    For any Plods reading this who have investigated all their crimes and are sitting around fiddling their fingers, I have acquired direct from France two copies of Charlie Hebdo. They're welcome to come and talk to me but I give them fair warning that they will get a lecture on free speech, abuse of the law, abuse of their public position and wasting public money. I will enjoy writing a letter to the Chief Constable and the judicial review should also be fun!

  • kle4 said:

    So, what will the first major act of PM Miliband's tenure be?

    Dystopia
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    kle4 said:

    So, what will the first major act of PM Miliband's tenure be? Although he has put forth some ideas, I confess the idea there is a lack of clarity in what he will actually do does strike a chord with me, and other than a promise of a constitutional convention - one to fire up the public's imaginations, that, I am sure - I'm not really clear on what he will do to start off.

    I mean, I expect government departments to immediately stop making those nasty ideological cuts in favour of the pleasant Labour kind which for some reason the Tories left untouched despite being pretty painless of course, but that's more an ongoing theme than a catchy new policy to unveil quickly.

    We all know this is just pie in the sky wishful thinking. We have still to get the crossover swingback to come. In January the Tory Party will have regular crossover polls, by February they will pull away and by March there will be consistant majority winning polls.
  • I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Those who prefer polling have ... the polls.

    We plumbed new depths today when Jack informed us that some Arse seats* were decided by just three votes. This in what is a made up forecast.



    *One for the pun-fans to enjoy
    Jack got the last election spot on.
  • Anyhoo, where's Scrapheap?
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262

    I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Those who prefer polling have ... the polls.

    We plumbed new depths today when Jack informed us that some Arse seats* were decided by just three votes. This in what is a made up forecast.



    *One for the pun-fans to enjoy
    Jack got the last election spot on.
    And bobaknob still hasn't got over it.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    edited February 2015
    Inevitable result of Lansley conflict of interest reforms IMO

    Trusted doctors are being offered bribes to send their patients to private ­hospitals, it has been claimed.

    The lucrative kickbacks for GPs and hospital specialists were “widespread” and worth “tens of thousands of pounds”, according to the concerned medic who lifted the lid on the scandal.

    Giving evidence to MPs, Dr Simon Peck claimed doctors were encouraged to use specific hospitals and laboratories for tests, drugs, referrals and even operations.

    In return, they received regular secret “commission” payments and free property rentals.

    He said the “profit-share” schemes made the NHS spend more and were not in patients’ best interests.

    In one case, a doctor is said to have earned enough to pay private school fees for his or her children.
  • kle4 said:

    So, what will the first major act of PM Miliband's tenure be? Although he has put forth some ideas, I confess the idea there is a lack of clarity in what he will actually do does strike a chord with me, and other than a promise of a constitutional convention - one to fire up the public's imaginations, that, I am sure - I'm not really clear on what he will do to start off.

    I mean, I expect government departments to immediately stop making those nasty ideological cuts in favour of the pleasant Labour kind which for some reason the Tories left untouched despite being pretty painless of course, but that's more an ongoing theme than a catchy new policy to unveil quickly.

    We all know this is just pie in the sky wishful thinking. We have still to get the crossover swingback to come. In January the Tory Party will have regular crossover polls, by February they will pull away and by March there will be consistant majority winning polls.
    The much vaunted St Valentine's Day Polling Massacre is soon upon us. Until we get to that I'm not saying owt.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,587

    kle4 said:

    So, what will the first major act of PM Miliband's tenure be?

    Dystopia
    Seems more a predicted consequence than an act. In a minority government I should think support for a Dystopia Bill would have a difficult passage through both Houses, you'd probably only get Galloway on board or something.
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371

    kle4 said:

    So, what will the first major act of PM Miliband's tenure be? Although he has put forth some ideas, I confess the idea there is a lack of clarity in what he will actually do does strike a chord with me, and other than a promise of a constitutional convention - one to fire up the public's imaginations, that, I am sure - I'm not really clear on what he will do to start off.

    I mean, I expect government departments to immediately stop making those nasty ideological cuts in favour of the pleasant Labour kind which for some reason the Tories left untouched despite being pretty painless of course, but that's more an ongoing theme than a catchy new policy to unveil quickly.

    We all know this is just pie in the sky wishful thinking. We have still to get the crossover swingback to come. In January the Tory Party will have regular crossover polls, by February they will pull away and by March there will be consistant majority winning polls.
    The much vaunted St Valentine's Day Polling Massacre is soon upon us. Until we get to that I'm not saying owt.
    I'm preparing myself for it.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,040

    Is that the sound of tumbling PB Hodges falling down the Crossover Polling Hill......AGAIN?

    The Last 19 polls, three Tory leads from Super Leader and Political Strategist Extraordinaire Cameron and only 11 polling leads for Ed is crap.

    January is the crossover month......February pulling away month.

    BASILISCIOUS!

    Number of posts analysing 1pt Tory leads: 10,653
    Number of posts analysing polling average (forecast): 6
    Number of variations of the login 'boba job': 537

    Is that the sound of tumbling PB Hodges falling down the Crossover Polling Hill......AGAIN?

    The Last 19 polls, three Tory leads from Super Leader and Political Strategist Extraordinaire Cameron and only 11 polling leads for Ed is crap.

    January is the crossover month......February pulling away month.

    BASILISCIOUS!

    Number of posts analysing 1pt Tory leads: 10,653
    Number of posts analysing polling average (forecast): 6
    Are you sure you're not confusing 10,653 with the number of screen names you have on here?
    ECHO....ECHO.....ECHO....ECHO
    Posted at the same time, so they may not have seen each others reply. We're all thinking it ;)
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064
    edited February 2015
    http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/crime/child-sexual-abuse-ring-in-halifax-25-men-charged-police-reaction-1-7096362

    Another "Asian" rape gang. Disgusting this time in Halifax. I think the word "widespread" is applicable.
  • Inevitable result of Lansley conflict of interest reforms IMO

    Trusted doctors are being offered bribes to send their patients to private ­hospitals, it has been claimed.

    The lucrative kickbacks for GPs and hospital specialists were “widespread” and worth “tens of thousands of pounds”, according to the concerned medic who lifted the lid on the scandal.

    Giving evidence to MPs, Dr Simon Peck claimed doctors were encouraged to use specific hospitals and laboratories for tests, drugs, referrals and even operations.

    In return, they received regular secret “commission” payments and free property rentals.

    He said the “profit-share” schemes made the NHS spend more and were not in patients’ best interests.

    In one case, a doctor is said to have earned enough to pay private school fees for his or her children.

    What the f--k is this? Source please
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    Inevitable result of Lansley conflict of interest reforms IMO

    Trusted doctors are being offered bribes to send their patients to private ­hospitals, it has been claimed.

    The lucrative kickbacks for GPs and hospital specialists were “widespread” and worth “tens of thousands of pounds”, according to the concerned medic who lifted the lid on the scandal.

    Giving evidence to MPs, Dr Simon Peck claimed doctors were encouraged to use specific hospitals and laboratories for tests, drugs, referrals and even operations.

    In return, they received regular secret “commission” payments and free property rentals.

    He said the “profit-share” schemes made the NHS spend more and were not in patients’ best interests.

    In one case, a doctor is said to have earned enough to pay private school fees for his or her children.

    Give a source so we can fry Lansley for turning the NHS into a Greek version of the NHS.
  • I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Those who prefer polling have ... the polls.

    We plumbed new depths today when Jack informed us that some Arse seats* were decided by just three votes. This in what is a made up forecast.



    *One for the pun-fans to enjoy
    Jack got the last election spot on.

    I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Those who prefer polling have ... the polls.

    We plumbed new depths today when Jack informed us that some Arse seats* were decided by just three votes. This in what is a made up forecast.



    *One for the pun-fans to enjoy
    Jack got the last election spot on.
    And bobaknob still hasn't got over it.
    It was putting my house on a Tory majority that did for me in 2010. I lost my shirt listening to the shills on here - more than I have ever lost betting in a single day ever.
  • bigjohnowls missed out it is from an article in Daily Mirror.
  • Speedy said:

    Inevitable result of Lansley conflict of interest reforms IMO

    Trusted doctors are being offered bribes to send their patients to private ­hospitals, it has been claimed.

    The lucrative kickbacks for GPs and hospital specialists were “widespread” and worth “tens of thousands of pounds”, according to the concerned medic who lifted the lid on the scandal.

    Giving evidence to MPs, Dr Simon Peck claimed doctors were encouraged to use specific hospitals and laboratories for tests, drugs, referrals and even operations.

    In return, they received regular secret “commission” payments and free property rentals.

    He said the “profit-share” schemes made the NHS spend more and were not in patients’ best interests.

    In one case, a doctor is said to have earned enough to pay private school fees for his or her children.

    Give a source so we can fry Lansley for turning the NHS into a Greek version of the NHS.
    My money is on the Daily Mirror being the source
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    Speedy said:

    Inevitable result of Lansley conflict of interest reforms IMO

    Trusted doctors are being offered bribes to send their patients to private ­hospitals, it has been claimed.

    The lucrative kickbacks for GPs and hospital specialists were “widespread” and worth “tens of thousands of pounds”, according to the concerned medic who lifted the lid on the scandal.

    Giving evidence to MPs, Dr Simon Peck claimed doctors were encouraged to use specific hospitals and laboratories for tests, drugs, referrals and even operations.

    In return, they received regular secret “commission” payments and free property rentals.

    He said the “profit-share” schemes made the NHS spend more and were not in patients’ best interests.

    In one case, a doctor is said to have earned enough to pay private school fees for his or her children.

    Give a source so we can fry Lansley for turning the NHS into a Greek version of the NHS.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nhs-doctors-taking-bribes-private-5142035

    GP Commissioning Healthcare is a MASSIVE conflict of interests
  • Inevitable result of Lansley conflict of interest reforms IMO

    Trusted doctors are being offered bribes to send their patients to private ­hospitals, it has been claimed.

    The lucrative kickbacks for GPs and hospital specialists were “widespread” and worth “tens of thousands of pounds”, according to the concerned medic who lifted the lid on the scandal.

    Giving evidence to MPs, Dr Simon Peck claimed doctors were encouraged to use specific hospitals and laboratories for tests, drugs, referrals and even operations.

    In return, they received regular secret “commission” payments and free property rentals.

    He said the “profit-share” schemes made the NHS spend more and were not in patients’ best interests.

    In one case, a doctor is said to have earned enough to pay private school fees for his or her children.

    I suggest you read up on him to see if he has an agenda.........
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Those who prefer polling have ... the polls.

    We plumbed new depths today when Jack informed us that some Arse seats* were decided by just three votes. This in what is a made up forecast.



    *One for the pun-fans to enjoy
    Jack got the last election spot on.

    I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Those who prefer polling have ... the polls.

    We plumbed new depths today when Jack informed us that some Arse seats* were decided by just three votes. This in what is a made up forecast.



    *One for the pun-fans to enjoy
    Jack got the last election spot on.
    And bobaknob still hasn't got over it.
    It was putting my house on a Tory majority that did for me in 2010. I lost my shirt listening to the shills on here - more than I have ever lost betting in a single day ever.
    Most pundits here are praetorian Tories, why did you listen to them?
    You should never take partisan advise seriously.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Inevitable result of Lansley conflict of interest reforms IMO

    Trusted doctors are being offered bribes to send their patients to private ­hospitals, it has been claimed.

    The lucrative kickbacks for GPs and hospital specialists were “widespread” and worth “tens of thousands of pounds”, according to the concerned medic who lifted the lid on the scandal.

    Giving evidence to MPs, Dr Simon Peck claimed doctors were encouraged to use specific hospitals and laboratories for tests, drugs, referrals and even operations.

    In return, they received regular secret “commission” payments and free property rentals.

    He said the “profit-share” schemes made the NHS spend more and were not in patients’ best interests.

    In one case, a doctor is said to have earned enough to pay private school fees for his or her children.

    Is this the Dr Simon Peck that is employed by AXA-PPP to drive down fees to keep insurers profitable by steering referals to the cheapest rather than the best practitioner?
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262

    bigjohnowls missed out it is from an article in Daily Mirror.

    It's hard to take any article seriously, from a newspaper that hacked so many phones.
  • Inevitable result of Lansley conflict of interest reforms IMO

    Trusted doctors are being offered bribes to send their patients to private ­hospitals, it has been claimed.

    The lucrative kickbacks for GPs and hospital specialists were “widespread” and worth “tens of thousands of pounds”, according to the concerned medic who lifted the lid on the scandal.

    Giving evidence to MPs, Dr Simon Peck claimed doctors were encouraged to use specific hospitals and laboratories for tests, drugs, referrals and even operations.

    In return, they received regular secret “commission” payments and free property rentals.

    He said the “profit-share” schemes made the NHS spend more and were not in patients’ best interests.

    In one case, a doctor is said to have earned enough to pay private school fees for his or her children.

    Is this the Dr Simon Peck that is employed by AXA-PPP to drive down fees to keep insurers profitable by steering referals to the cheapest rather than the best practitioner?
    I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you by that revelation.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited February 2015

    Speedy said:

    Inevitable result of Lansley conflict of interest reforms IMO

    Trusted doctors are being offered bribes to send their patients to private ­hospitals, it has been claimed.

    The lucrative kickbacks for GPs and hospital specialists were “widespread” and worth “tens of thousands of pounds”, according to the concerned medic who lifted the lid on the scandal.

    Giving evidence to MPs, Dr Simon Peck claimed doctors were encouraged to use specific hospitals and laboratories for tests, drugs, referrals and even operations.

    In return, they received regular secret “commission” payments and free property rentals.

    He said the “profit-share” schemes made the NHS spend more and were not in patients’ best interests.

    In one case, a doctor is said to have earned enough to pay private school fees for his or her children.

    Give a source so we can fry Lansley for turning the NHS into a Greek version of the NHS.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nhs-doctors-taking-bribes-private-5142035

    GP Commissioning Healthcare is a MASSIVE conflict of interests
    Take the pitchforks.
    Lansley deformed British Healthcare into Greek Healthcare (I read that the greek healthcare system is notorious for bribes).
  • Is that the sound of tumbling PB Hodges falling down the Crossover Polling Hill......AGAIN?

    The Last 19 polls, three Tory leads from Super Leader and Political Strategist Extraordinaire Cameron and only 11 polling leads for Ed is crap.

    January is the crossover month......February pulling away month.

    BASILISCIOUS!

    Number of posts analysing 1pt Tory leads: 10,653
    Number of posts analysing polling average (forecast): 6
    Number of variations of the login 'boba job': 537

    Is that the sound of tumbling PB Hodges falling down the Crossover Polling Hill......AGAIN?

    The Last 19 polls, three Tory leads from Super Leader and Political Strategist Extraordinaire Cameron and only 11 polling leads for Ed is crap.

    January is the crossover month......February pulling away month.

    BASILISCIOUS!

    Number of posts analysing 1pt Tory leads: 10,653
    Number of posts analysing polling average (forecast): 6
    Are you sure you're not confusing 10,653 with the number of screen names you have on here?
    ECHO....ECHO.....ECHO....ECHO
    A strong candidate for the most boringly obsessive meme ever on PB, among very stiff competition.

    Bournemouth
    Cocktails
    JackW's advanced age
    Muslims

    I could go on, but I won't, amid fear of actually boring my dear PB Tories to death.
  • bigjohnowls missed out it is from an article in Daily Mirror.

    It's hard to take any article seriously, from a newspaper that hacked so many phones.
    Funny how uninterested some media outlets are interested in this fact.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,963
    edited February 2015

    bigjohnowls missed out it is from an article in Daily Mirror.

    It's hard to take any article seriously, from a newspaper that hacked so many phones.
    Or did a front page based on obviously faked photos that placed the lives of British soldiers at risk.

    As Kenneth Clarke put it accurately, many years ago, when he said the Mirror is read by morons.
  • bigjohnowls missed out it is from an article in Daily Mirror.

    It's hard to take any article seriously, from a newspaper that hacked so many phones.
    Shootin' the messenger? :)
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    More good news!!

    The NHS has set aside £26billion – almost a quarter of its annual budget – to cover legal claims for negligence.
  • Inevitable result of Lansley conflict of interest reforms IMO

    Trusted doctors are being offered bribes to send their patients to private ­hospitals, it has been claimed.

    The lucrative kickbacks for GPs and hospital specialists were “widespread” and worth “tens of thousands of pounds”, according to the concerned medic who lifted the lid on the scandal.

    Giving evidence to MPs, Dr Simon Peck claimed doctors were encouraged to use specific hospitals and laboratories for tests, drugs, referrals and even operations.

    In return, they received regular secret “commission” payments and free property rentals.

    He said the “profit-share” schemes made the NHS spend more and were not in patients’ best interests.

    In one case, a doctor is said to have earned enough to pay private school fees for his or her children.

    Is this the Dr Simon Peck that is employed by AXA-PPP to drive down fees to keep insurers profitable by steering referals to the cheapest rather than the best practitioner?
    The very same, and given my job that's all I am going to say
  • Speedy said:

    I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Those who prefer polling have ... the polls.

    We plumbed new depths today when Jack informed us that some Arse seats* were decided by just three votes. This in what is a made up forecast.



    *One for the pun-fans to enjoy
    Jack got the last election spot on.

    I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Those who prefer polling have ... the polls.

    We plumbed new depths today when Jack informed us that some Arse seats* were decided by just three votes. This in what is a made up forecast.



    *One for the pun-fans to enjoy
    Jack got the last election spot on.
    And bobaknob still hasn't got over it.
    It was putting my house on a Tory majority that did for me in 2010. I lost my shirt listening to the shills on here - more than I have ever lost betting in a single day ever.
    Most pundits here are praetorian Tories, why did you listen to them?
    You should never take partisan advise seriously.
    Biggest betting mistake I ever made. I resolved never to back PB Tory advice ever again – so far it has been very profitable, including a nice earner on how many seats will be contested in 2015.

    They said 600.

    I backed 650.
  • Is that the sound of tumbling PB Hodges falling down the Crossover Polling Hill......AGAIN?

    The Last 19 polls, three Tory leads from Super Leader and Political Strategist Extraordinaire Cameron and only 11 polling leads for Ed is crap.

    January is the crossover month......February pulling away month.

    BASILISCIOUS!

    Number of posts analysing 1pt Tory leads: 10,653
    Number of posts analysing polling average (forecast): 6
    Number of variations of the login 'boba job': 537

    Is that the sound of tumbling PB Hodges falling down the Crossover Polling Hill......AGAIN?

    The Last 19 polls, three Tory leads from Super Leader and Political Strategist Extraordinaire Cameron and only 11 polling leads for Ed is crap.

    January is the crossover month......February pulling away month.

    BASILISCIOUS!

    Number of posts analysing 1pt Tory leads: 10,653
    Number of posts analysing polling average (forecast): 6
    Are you sure you're not confusing 10,653 with the number of screen names you have on here?
    ECHO....ECHO.....ECHO....ECHO
    A strong candidate for the most boringly obsessive meme ever on PB, among very stiff competition.

    Bournemouth
    Cocktails
    JackW's advanced age
    Muslims

    I could go on, but I won't, amid fear of actually boring my dear PB Tories to death.
    Oh no, the worst memes on PB were

    1) The time Dave went to Morrisons
    2) The time Dave rode a horse (which would lead to his resignation)
    3) The time George Osborne cried at a funeral
  • More good news!!

    The NHS has set aside £26billion – almost a quarter of its annual budget – to cover legal claims for negligence.

    How much have they set aside to cover the pensions of people who retired ludicrously early?
  • More good news!!

    The NHS has set aside £26billion – almost a quarter of its annual budget – to cover legal claims for negligence.

    Excellent news, helps enrich poor hard working solicitors.
  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245

    Speedy said:

    I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Those who prefer polling have ... the polls.

    We plumbed new depths today when Jack informed us that some Arse seats* were decided by just three votes. This in what is a made up forecast.



    *One for the pun-fans to enjoy
    Jack got the last election spot on.

    I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Those who prefer polling have ... the polls.

    We plumbed new depths today when Jack informed us that some Arse seats* were decided by just three votes. This in what is a made up forecast.



    *One for the pun-fans to enjoy
    Jack got the last election spot on.
    And bobaknob still hasn't got over it.
    It was putting my house on a Tory majority that did for me in 2010. I lost my shirt listening to the shills on here - more than I have ever lost betting in a single day ever.
    Most pundits here are praetorian Tories, why did you listen to them?
    You should never take partisan advise seriously.
    Biggest betting mistake I ever made. I resolved never to back PB Tory advice ever again – so far it has been very profitable, including a nice earner on how many seats will be contested in 2015.

    They said 600.

    I backed 650.
    More fibs.
  • Speedy said:

    Speedy said:

    Inevitable result of Lansley conflict of interest reforms IMO

    Trusted doctors are being offered bribes to send their patients to private ­hospitals, it has been claimed.

    The lucrative kickbacks for GPs and hospital specialists were “widespread” and worth “tens of thousands of pounds”, according to the concerned medic who lifted the lid on the scandal.

    Giving evidence to MPs, Dr Simon Peck claimed doctors were encouraged to use specific hospitals and laboratories for tests, drugs, referrals and even operations.

    In return, they received regular secret “commission” payments and free property rentals.

    He said the “profit-share” schemes made the NHS spend more and were not in patients’ best interests.

    In one case, a doctor is said to have earned enough to pay private school fees for his or her children.

    Give a source so we can fry Lansley for turning the NHS into a Greek version of the NHS.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nhs-doctors-taking-bribes-private-5142035

    GP Commissioning Healthcare is a MASSIVE conflict of interests
    Take the pitchforks.
    Lansley deformed British Healthcare into Greek Healthcare (I read that the greek healthcare system is notorious for bribes).
    It will be interesting to see if any evidence is brought forward to back up these claims. After all any doctor receiving these payments could face being struck off and any rep making them could face bribery charges
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited February 2015

    More good news!!

    The NHS has set aside £26billion – almost a quarter of its annual budget – to cover legal claims for negligence.

    When will the Labour party make a fuss about that and the bribes? Instead it's all about "Tory cuts on the NHS", to have a variety of slogans is not bad.
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262

    bigjohnowls missed out it is from an article in Daily Mirror.

    It's hard to take any article seriously, from a newspaper that hacked so many phones.
    Funny how uninterested some media outlets are interested in this fact.
    Fair play to The Independent, though I wonder how many read it these days.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/hacking-by-mirror-worse-than-at-murdoch-papers-9996698.html
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited February 2015
    Anybody who thinks the Mirror should be taken seriously these days, take one look at tomorrows front page....They make the Daily Express front pages sound reasonable.

    If they are to be believed, the Tories have sold off the NHS, but all they care about are apparently the "panicking Tories begging the city" for dosh.
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    edited February 2015

    More good news!!

    The NHS has set aside £26billion – almost a quarter of its annual budget – to cover legal claims for negligence.

    Is the quality of treatment really that bad?

    Looking forward to the urgent questions from Labour.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    Anybody who thinks the Mirror should be taken seriously these days, take one look at tomorrows front page....They make the Daily Express front pages sound reasonable.

    I beg to differ, they are not so bad, compared with the Sunday Sport the Mirror is like the New York Times.
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    Speedy said:

    Inevitable result of Lansley conflict of interest reforms IMO

    Trusted doctors are being offered bribes to send their patients to private ­hospitals, it has been claimed.

    The lucrative kickbacks for GPs and hospital specialists were “widespread” and worth “tens of thousands of pounds”, according to the concerned medic who lifted the lid on the scandal.

    Giving evidence to MPs, Dr Simon Peck claimed doctors were encouraged to use specific hospitals and laboratories for tests, drugs, referrals and even operations.

    In return, they received regular secret “commission” payments and free property rentals.

    He said the “profit-share” schemes made the NHS spend more and were not in patients’ best interests.

    In one case, a doctor is said to have earned enough to pay private school fees for his or her children.

    Give a source so we can fry Lansley for turning the NHS into a Greek version of the NHS.
    Drs have had rewards from drug companies for years, decades. Those NHS consultants working in private hospitals for 30 odd years never encourage patients to use them. Oh no.

    The NHS will only get worse, regardless of who is in power and the amount of money hosed into it. It needs breaking up so we can have a medical system designed for the needs and expectations now rather than one that was ok for needs and demands of 50 of years ago. A revolution is required in health provision. GPs don't work for modern demands, A&E is under stress. Top end salaries are OTT, admin is dire. There is very little right with NHS. That is not to say private is the answer, but the mess we have isn't either.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited February 2015

    bigjohnowls missed out it is from an article in Daily Mirror.

    It's hard to take any article seriously, from a newspaper that hacked so many phones.
    Funny how uninterested some media outlets are interested in this fact.
    Fair play to The Independent, though I wonder how many read it these days.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/hacking-by-mirror-worse-than-at-murdoch-papers-9996698.html
    The Independent are the only newspaper who have reported on this whole issue beyond the scope of MURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDOCH...they have been talking on about how widespead it was, "proper" hacking, company involvement, foreign agencies on a consistent basis.

    Might be to do with the fact that they are the only paper with basically clean hands.
  • With reference to today's discussions about 'austerity' and who gets the blame and how long it will continue two facts:

    During the last decade government debt has increased by £1.033 TRILLION pounds (or 229%).

    The UK is currently running the largest balance of payments deficit since records began.
  • saddened said:

    Speedy said:

    I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Those who prefer polling have ... the polls.

    We plumbed new depths today when Jack informed us that some Arse seats* were decided by just three votes. This in what is a made up forecast.



    *One for the pun-fans to enjoy
    Jack got the last election spot on.

    I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Those who prefer polling have ... the polls.

    We plumbed new depths today when Jack informed us that some Arse seats* were decided by just three votes. This in what is a made up forecast.



    *One for the pun-fans to enjoy
    Jack got the last election spot on.
    And bobaknob still hasn't got over it.
    It was putting my house on a Tory majority that did for me in 2010. I lost my shirt listening to the shills on here - more than I have ever lost betting in a single day ever.
    Most pundits here are praetorian Tories, why did you listen to them?
    You should never take partisan advise seriously.
    Biggest betting mistake I ever made. I resolved never to back PB Tory advice ever again – so far it has been very profitable, including a nice earner on how many seats will be contested in 2015.

    They said 600.

    I backed 650.
    More fibs.
    Entirely true. I'll dig out the bet slip sometime if you continue to obsessively hound me.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Speedy said:

    Speedy said:

    Inevitable result of Lansley conflict of interest reforms IMO

    Trusted doctors are being offered bribes to send their patients to private ­hospitals, it has been claimed.

    The lucrative kickbacks for GPs and hospital specialists were “widespread” and worth “tens of thousands of pounds”, according to the concerned medic who lifted the lid on the scandal.

    Giving evidence to MPs, Dr Simon Peck claimed doctors were encouraged to use specific hospitals and laboratories for tests, drugs, referrals and even operations.

    In return, they received regular secret “commission” payments and free property rentals.

    He said the “profit-share” schemes made the NHS spend more and were not in patients’ best interests.

    In one case, a doctor is said to have earned enough to pay private school fees for his or her children.

    Give a source so we can fry Lansley for turning the NHS into a Greek version of the NHS.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nhs-doctors-taking-bribes-private-5142035

    GP Commissioning Healthcare is a MASSIVE conflict of interests
    Take the pitchforks.
    Lansley deformed British Healthcare into Greek Healthcare (I read that the greek healthcare system is notorious for bribes).
    It will be interesting to see if any evidence is brought forward to back up these claims. After all any doctor receiving these payments could face being struck off and any rep making them could face bribery charges
    According to the Mirror article Dr Peck could not name a single Doctor doing this to the GMC, so the GMC threw out the complaint.

    Meanwhile Dr Peck's employer, AXA-PPP negotiates sweetheart deals with certain private hospitals and providers.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    philiph said:

    Speedy said:

    Inevitable result of Lansley conflict of interest reforms IMO

    Trusted doctors are being offered bribes to send their patients to private ­hospitals, it has been claimed.

    The lucrative kickbacks for GPs and hospital specialists were “widespread” and worth “tens of thousands of pounds”, according to the concerned medic who lifted the lid on the scandal.

    Giving evidence to MPs, Dr Simon Peck claimed doctors were encouraged to use specific hospitals and laboratories for tests, drugs, referrals and even operations.

    In return, they received regular secret “commission” payments and free property rentals.

    He said the “profit-share” schemes made the NHS spend more and were not in patients’ best interests.

    In one case, a doctor is said to have earned enough to pay private school fees for his or her children.

    Give a source so we can fry Lansley for turning the NHS into a Greek version of the NHS.
    Drs have had rewards from drug companies for years, decades. Those NHS consultants working in private hospitals for 30 odd years never encourage patients to use them. Oh no.

    The NHS will only get worse, regardless of who is in power and the amount of money hosed into it. It needs breaking up so we can have a medical system designed for the needs and expectations now rather than one that was ok for needs and demands of 50 of years ago. A revolution is required in health provision. GPs don't work for modern demands, A&E is under stress. Top end salaries are OTT, admin is dire. There is very little right with NHS. That is not to say private is the answer, but the mess we have isn't either.
    You reminded me of the massive NHS IT scandal, what happened to that?

    Oh and since I ran into the subject of greek healthcare, their PM is doing a Thatcher tonight in their parliament:
    Chris Morris @BBCChrisMorris · 50m 50 minutes ago
    If you had succeeded, #Tsipras says to the opposition, the people wouldn't have trusted us. So tell us something original. #Greece #handbags
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262

    bigjohnowls missed out it is from an article in Daily Mirror.

    It's hard to take any article seriously, from a newspaper that hacked so many phones.
    Funny how uninterested some media outlets are interested in this fact.
    Fair play to The Independent, though I wonder how many read it these days.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/hacking-by-mirror-worse-than-at-murdoch-papers-9996698.html
    The Independent are the only newspaper who have reported on this whole issue beyond the scope of MURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDOCH...they have been talking on about how widespead it was, "proper" hacking, company involvement, foreign agencies on a consistent basis.

    Might be to do with the fact that they are the only paper with basically clean hands.
    Piers Morgan should be doing time in the Scrubs.
  • Is that the sound of tumbling PB Hodges falling down the Crossover Polling Hill......AGAIN?

    The Last 19 polls, three Tory leads from Super Leader and Political Strategist Extraordinaire Cameron and only 11 polling leads for Ed is crap.

    January is the crossover month......February pulling away month.

    BASILISCIOUS!

    Number of posts analysing 1pt Tory leads: 10,653
    Number of posts analysing polling average (forecast): 6
    Number of variations of the login 'boba job': 537

    Is that the sound of tumbling PB Hodges falling down the Crossover Polling Hill......AGAIN?

    The Last 19 polls, three Tory leads from Super Leader and Political Strategist Extraordinaire Cameron and only 11 polling leads for Ed is crap.

    January is the crossover month......February pulling away month.

    BASILISCIOUS!

    Number of posts analysing 1pt Tory leads: 10,653
    Number of posts analysing polling average (forecast): 6
    Are you sure you're not confusing 10,653 with the number of screen names you have on here?
    ECHO....ECHO.....ECHO....ECHO
    A strong candidate for the most boringly obsessive meme ever on PB, among very stiff competition.

    Bournemouth
    Cocktails
    JackW's advanced age
    Muslims

    I could go on, but I won't, amid fear of actually boring my dear PB Tories to death.
    Oh no, the worst memes on PB were

    1) The time Dave went to Morrisons
    2) The time Dave rode a horse (which would lead to his resignation)
    3) The time George Osborne cried at a funeral
    I don't recall 1).

    2) and 3) were Tim's as I remember.

    Those were the days :)
  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245

    saddened said:

    Speedy said:

    I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Those who prefer polling have ... the polls.

    We plumbed new depths today when Jack informed us that some Arse seats* were decided by just three votes. This in what is a made up forecast.



    *One for the pun-fans to enjoy
    Jack got the last election spot on.

    I've been a bit busy. Anyone get a sight of Jack's ARSE today?

    Yes,

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/541853/#Comment_541853
    Those who prefer polling have ... the polls.

    We plumbed new depths today when Jack informed us that some Arse seats* were decided by just three votes. This in what is a made up forecast.



    *One for the pun-fans to enjoy
    Jack got the last election spot on.
    And bobaknob still hasn't got over it.
    It was putting my house on a Tory majority that did for me in 2010. I lost my shirt listening to the shills on here - more than I have ever lost betting in a single day ever.
    Most pundits here are praetorian Tories, why did you listen to them?
    You should never take partisan advise seriously.
    Biggest betting mistake I ever made. I resolved never to back PB Tory advice ever again – so far it has been very profitable, including a nice earner on how many seats will be contested in 2015.

    They said 600.

    I backed 650.
    More fibs.
    Entirely true. I'll dig out the bet slip sometime if you continue to obsessively hound me.
    Do so
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    SeanT said:

    Oh come on. Someone please ask me why I'm being smug.

    Heh, hah, etc

    No.
  • SeanT said:

    Oh come on. Someone please ask me why I'm being smug.

    Heh, hah, etc

    because you've got a great bird with a cracking arse?

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