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  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578

    Ed Miliband’s Labour party leadership was plunged into fresh crisis as senior Labour MPs revealed that at least 20 shadow ministers were on the brink of calling for him to stand down.

    The frontbenchers are willing to go public with their demand if the former home secretary, Alan Johnson, indicates that he would be prepared to step into the breach, should Labour be left leaderless just months from a general election. The senior status of the potential rebels and their numbers represent another grievous blow to Miliband’s authority, after attempts by his aides to minimise the extent of dissatisfaction in the party.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/08/ed-miliband-crisis-labour-mps-back-leadership-change

    There are over 20 shadow minister?! That seems excessive, I didn't realise oppositions had the Minister of State level appointments shadowed as well as the real front benchers.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    Ed Miliband’s Labour party leadership was plunged into fresh crisis as senior Labour MPs revealed that at least 20 shadow ministers were on the brink of calling for him to stand down.

    The frontbenchers are willing to go public with their demand if the former home secretary, Alan Johnson, indicates that he would be prepared to step into the breach, should Labour be left leaderless just months from a general election. The senior status of the potential rebels and their numbers represent another grievous blow to Miliband’s authority, after attempts by his aides to minimise the extent of dissatisfaction in the party.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/08/ed-miliband-crisis-labour-mps-back-leadership-change

    Lucy Powell has done an AMAZING job of getting her man in the news...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Opinium

    Lab 32 (-1) Con 29 (-4) UKIP 19 (+1) LD 9 (+3)

    The LDs do seem to be moving up a bit in most polls. Maybe 6% represented a bottoming out for them.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033
    Speedy said:

    Opinium

    Lab 32 (-1) Con 29 (-4) UKIP 19 (+1) LD 9 (+3)

    That is the real story of the day.
    Lib Dems up a third, I know!
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited November 2014
    kle4 said:

    Ed Miliband’s Labour party leadership was plunged into fresh crisis as senior Labour MPs revealed that at least 20 shadow ministers were on the brink of calling for him to stand down.

    The frontbenchers are willing to go public with their demand if the former home secretary, Alan Johnson, indicates that he would be prepared to step into the breach, should Labour be left leaderless just months from a general election. The senior status of the potential rebels and their numbers represent another grievous blow to Miliband’s authority, after attempts by his aides to minimise the extent of dissatisfaction in the party.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/08/ed-miliband-crisis-labour-mps-back-leadership-change

    There are over 20 shadow minister?! That seems excessive, I didn't realise oppositions had the Minister of State level appointments shadowed as well as the real front benchers.
    That is a clue about the truthfulness of the story.
    At least we know that the Guardian is after Ed.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578
    Hah, Con down again. The UKIP narrative of this being a fight between two losers really does seem to be playing out, even if they personally do not end up doing as well as current polls suggest they might.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Opinium

    Lab 32 (-1) Con 29 (-4) UKIP 19 (+1) LD 9 (+3)

    Baxter puts Labour 8 seats over winning post with these figures.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578
    Speedy said:

    kle4 said:

    Ed Miliband’s Labour party leadership was plunged into fresh crisis as senior Labour MPs revealed that at least 20 shadow ministers were on the brink of calling for him to stand down.

    The frontbenchers are willing to go public with their demand if the former home secretary, Alan Johnson, indicates that he would be prepared to step into the breach, should Labour be left leaderless just months from a general election. The senior status of the potential rebels and their numbers represent another grievous blow to Miliband’s authority, after attempts by his aides to minimise the extent of dissatisfaction in the party.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/08/ed-miliband-crisis-labour-mps-back-leadership-change

    There are over 20 shadow minister?! That seems excessive, I didn't realise oppositions had the Minister of State level appointments shadowed as well as the real front benchers.
    At least we know that the Guardian is after Ed.
    As traitorous as when they backed the LDs I guess.
  • kle4 said:

    Ed Miliband’s Labour party leadership was plunged into fresh crisis as senior Labour MPs revealed that at least 20 shadow ministers were on the brink of calling for him to stand down.

    The frontbenchers are willing to go public with their demand if the former home secretary, Alan Johnson, indicates that he would be prepared to step into the breach, should Labour be left leaderless just months from a general election. The senior status of the potential rebels and their numbers represent another grievous blow to Miliband’s authority, after attempts by his aides to minimise the extent of dissatisfaction in the party.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/08/ed-miliband-crisis-labour-mps-back-leadership-change

    There are over 20 shadow minister?! That seems excessive, I didn't realise oppositions had the Minister of State level appointments shadowed as well as the real front benchers.
    Miliband has so many shadow ministers, if he was to get into government now and wanted to give them all the same job as an actual minister, he would breach he legal maximum. There was an article in the papers a few weeks back and it was staggering how many he had (and so do the coalition)...there really is a minister for things about as important as tiddlywinks these days.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,173
    Speedy said:

    Opinium

    Lab 32 (-1) Con 29 (-4) UKIP 19 (+1) LD 9 (+3)

    That is the real story of the day.
    Somehow I doubt it - although the supplementals feature heavily in the Guardian article.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,989
    Evening again all :)

    Another dreadful poll for the Conservatives. 29% would be a worse result than either 1997 or 2001. Yet no one seems to think their leader is under any kind of threat on here.

    How low do the Tories have to go before the knives are out for Cameron - 25% or the first poll showing them in third behind UKIP ?
  • Opinium = interesting :)
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    AndyJS said:

    Opinium

    Lab 32 (-1) Con 29 (-4) UKIP 19 (+1) LD 9 (+3)

    The LDs do seem to be moving up a bit in most polls. Maybe 6% represented a bottoming out for them.
    Scrapping on the bottom I believe, instead of 7 now the average is 8.
  • Ha!

    Dave Cameron = Ed Miliband :)
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    Ed M won't like that right wing Observer's headlines.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,960
    edited November 2014
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  • felix said:

    RobD said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Scott_P said:

    The #webackEd hashtag is brilliant. You can wind people up no end...

    like the #edforpm but where's my free owl?
    If I wasn't on my mobile I'd so be linking the Ed owl pic!
    Must say I thought it was quite a hoot - I'll get my coat...
    Too many Tweets make a Too-wit-too-woo?

    :)
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    stodge said:

    Evening again all :)

    Another dreadful poll for the Conservatives. 29% would be a worse result than either 1997 or 2001. Yet no one seems to think their leader is under any kind of threat on here.

    How low do the Tories have to go before the knives are out for Cameron - 25% or the first poll showing them in third behind UKIP ?

    I believe if that moment arrives the first one to call for his departure will be TSE.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    stodge said:

    Evening again all :)

    Another dreadful poll for the Conservatives. 29% would be a worse result than either 1997 or 2001. Yet no one seems to think their leader is under any kind of threat on here.

    How low do the Tories have to go before the knives are out for Cameron - 25% or the first poll showing them in third behind UKIP ?

    That's because most people expect some measure of swingback between now and the election. Ed should further ahead than 3%.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578
    stodge said:

    Evening again all :)

    Another dreadful poll for the Conservatives. 29% would be a worse result than either 1997 or 2001. Yet no one seems to think their leader is under any kind of threat on here.

    How low do the Tories have to go before the knives are out for Cameron - 25% or the first poll showing them in third behind UKIP ?

    The latter, if only because I can conceive of a poll, rogue or not, where UKIP have more than 26, so Con need not fall that far before being behind them at some point.

    Of course the knives are already our for him, there seems a core of MPs who absolutely detest him and would do anything to see him fail, it's just they haven't seen a good opportunity to plunge those knives yet. As their goal is surely to purge the party of the Cameroonians as a whole, I would guess they would prefer to lose heavily in 2015 with Cameron so they can excise the lot, rather than switch to another Cameroon who might do a little better and delay the necessary cleansing fire.
  • NinoinozNinoinoz Posts: 1,312


    Tim Stanley ‏@timothy_stanley 1h1 hour ago

    #webackEd because it'll be nice to change that pub quiz answer from Michael foot to someone new.

    Sorry to be gauche here, but what's the question that Neil Kinnock, John Smith or Gordon Brown isn't the answer?

    A donkey jacket would be warm tomorrow, though.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    AndyJS said:

    Speedy said:

    Canvass anecdotes as usual: busy week and several hundred contacted - responses much in line with recent weeks. If the electorate is convulsed with horror over either Cameron or Miliband they're concealing it well. As before, not many don't knows, lots of settled Lab/Con/UKIP votes, almost no LibDems.

    My favourite this week was an elderly lady who's just moved here from Shropshire:

    Lady: I don't know much about local affairs, you see.
    Me: Well, it's a super-marginal, so you'll be much-wooed.
    Lady (wistfully): That's nice - it's been a while since that happened...

    Does it look like comfortable Labour gain?
    Nick's too modest to say he's going to win easily.
    Although this going to be the weirdest election of our lifetimes, I think Broxtowe can pretty much definitely be put in the Labour box. Ladbrokes offering 2/7. Better than the bank.
    Yes, I have been quite heavily on this bet for some time now.

    If Nick wins then I win and the country loses. And then I lose when my UK tax bill goes up.
    But I'll have some winnings to set against it.
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