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  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    Alistair said:


    Do you think it would have been easier for Bush and Co. to find support at home and in the wider world for war in Iraq with or without 9/11?

    Very hard to say. I imagine that without 9/11 they'd have concocted a weapons of mass destruction narrative (which they also did even with 9/11) to get the home support. It's not liking bombing Iraq was a unpopular policy domestically. Clinton would do it whenever he got bored.

    Having to deal with the Taliban/Al Qaeda was a massive headache for the Bush admin - 9/11 caused them massive problems which is the principle reason to think 9/11 being a false flag operation is ridiculous.
    Which country lies exactly in between Iraq and Afghanistan? Check your atlas!
    Iran offered support to America when it invaded Afghanistan. It was a moment of amazing possibility that Bush threw away with the ridiculous Axis of Evil speech.
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322

    Socrates said:


    I an not 'pro Putin'. Vladimir Putin is undoubtedly ruthless and growingly autocratic, but the caricature in the media of a Dick Darstardly style villain who invades on a whim is simply silly. Even Hitler had a game plan. Do I believe Putin's game plan is to control and dominate our country and my life? Nope. Is there anything to be gained from antagonising him? Nope. Are we doing it because America (who recently called him the biggest threat to humanity) are doing it? Yep. Is this an area where their interests and ours are misaligned, therefore we should shut our traps and see which way things go? Yep.

    Britain's and America's (and France's and Germany's) interest in Ukraine is entirely aligned. It is moral and good to encourage them to move to a democratic system, and it is very dangerous to allow nations to invade and annex part of their neighbours.
    It was hardly a move toward a democratic system to unseat the democratically elected (UN observed, so don't try it) President.

    Our policy toward Russia should be one of caution, cordial relations, and positive engagement, based on our scary energy needs.

    Here's our policy toward Saudi Arabia, a far worse and more pernicious energy rich country:

    http://www.spa.gov.sa/galupload/normal/119880_1352213987_9161.jpg

    America may not need Russian gas, and that's fine -their policy toward Russia is a reckless one of ramping up the rhetoric and seeking conflict. We should not be joining them -it is utterly counter to our own needs.
    There was civilian unrest due to the fact the President ordered snipers to kill unarmed protesters on the streets. As a result, the president skipped town. He was voted as having left power by the democratically elected parliament, and fresh elections were announced. None of that justifies for a second Russia annexing parts of the country.
  • Strasbourg was once Polish (Duchy-of-Alsace; due to inter-Euro stupidity).

    I don't think Strasbourg was ever Polish! It was German between 1871 and 1919, and was part of the Holy Roman Empire until 1697.

    Unless you're thinking of the other former German Strasburg, now the town of Brodnica in Poland?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brodnica

    It was not just India that was partitioned: Look at the history of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. When you have a brain-cell functioning please respond.... :(
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