Thank God for Ed Miliband, without him the Tories wouldn't have a chance.
You really think David Miliband or Ed Balls would be on the cusp of victory right now?
I don't rate any of them, but Ed has proven to be remarkably poor at the job. For a man who boasts about his intellectual self-confidence he has very little of interest to say.
Labour faces near wipeout in Scotland next May in a setback that could cost Ed Miliband the general election, according to a new poll for The Times.
Mr Miliband’s personal ratings have also plunged since the referendum seven weeks ago, the YouGov poll of Scottish voters has found. Only 15 per cent trust him, down from 25 per cent on the eve of the independence vote. Labour supporters are more likely to distrust him.
True but you then have to hope you get them right and that UNS applies. You get into a tricky scenario where you have to apply regional trends (eg Lab strong in London etc etc) to make money.
I am happy to back CMS at longer than even money as if I am wrong Labour win anyway.
I'm driven mostly by the markets. I have taken Tory Most Seats, as it is clearly value at longer than evens. What price would you need to back it?
The last value bet on here was NOT the usual suspects saying how there was value in backing the Blues at circa 4-1 in Rochester.... worst confirmation bias I could have needed to see me bulk up on it.....
Thank God for Ed Miliband, without him the Tories wouldn't have a chance.
You really think David Miliband or Ed Balls would be on the cusp of victory right now?
I don't rate any of them, but Ed has proven to be remarkably poor at the job. For a man who boasts about his intellectual self-confidence he has very little of interest to say.
His real problem is, if you were to be charitable towards him, that even if he has saved all his announcements until the last 6 months, the narrative is so set against him that any policy will be rubbished, from free owls to deficit reduction. He is no longer seen as a serious contender by too many.
I'm driven mostly by the markets. I have taken Tory Most Seats, as it is clearly value at longer than evens. What price would you need to back it?
The last value bet on here was NOT the usual suspects saying how there was value in backing the Blues at circa 4-1 in Rochester.... worst confirmation bias I could have needed to see me bulk up on it.....
Doh!!! Curse that hound dog pig traitor.
That was possibly me. I took backed the Tories at 4-1 - which now rates as my worst ever bet!!
I'm driven mostly by the markets. I have taken Tory Most Seats, as it is clearly value at longer than evens. What price would you need to back it?
The last value bet on here was NOT the usual suspects saying how there was value in backing the Blues at circa 4-1 in Rochester.... worst confirmation bias I could have needed to see me bulk up on it.....
Doh!!! Curse that hound dog pig traitor.
That was possibly me. I took backed the Tories at 4-1 - which now rates as my worst ever bet!!
Could easy cash in on LAB most seats to be in profit either way.
My hearts not in it thats why i am a rubbish gambler maybe.
May well still reduce potential Gain/Loss a bit further though.
Reduce your loss from a grand on that bet at least - crikey oh riley
Your heart shouldn't really be in any bets when it comes to political gambling I think. Your head should ^_~
Indeed. My problem is I have a bias in backing outcomes I don't want. But betting bias is bias, whichever way it plays, it ain't good.
I never back on the outcome of a Chelsea match for that reason.
Very wise Nigel. I have lost lots on money in tournaments betting on England not to qualify although that said I won last time taking Uruguay for the win. It felt no better at all, England losing.
Have the "party of the working class" really got an Education Secretary who is the son of a Baron named Tristram having been to Eton?
Thats The Hon. Dr Tristram Julian William Hunt FRHistS MP to you......and not that it should matter where his parents decided to educate him (tho it seems to excite some on the left), but his Labour councillor father sent him to University College School....not Eton......
I really do hope Labour win the South Yorkshire Police Commissioner by-election.
If Labour lose it, then they might ditch Ed.
Damnit, I should have given Lab my second pref.
muppet - we also need UKIP to lose some of the narrative of their 'roll' they are on.... where can I bet on the tory's winning Rochester in the GE even if the pig dog does cling on for a few more squalid months.
I'm driven mostly by the markets. I have taken Tory Most Seats, as it is clearly value at longer than evens. What price would you need to back it?
The last value bet on here was NOT the usual suspects saying how there was value in backing the Blues at circa 4-1 in Rochester.... worst confirmation bias I could have needed to see me bulk up on it.....
Doh!!! Curse that hound dog pig traitor.
That was possibly me. I took backed the Tories at 4-1 - which now rates as my worst ever bet!!
You aren't a Spurs fan/victim are you too....
No. A big fan of another similarly underachieving club but I don't reveal biographical details on here, as much as I would like to. Too many oddballs about, sadly. (Your good self not in any way included in that)
@OliverKamm: White poppy created by Peace Pledge Union in 1930s, whose chair (Canon Stuart Morris) was member of pro-Nazi org.
Ouch-tastic!
Orwell summed them up well:
"Since pacifists have more freedom of action in countries where traces of democracy survive, pacifism can act more effectively against democracy than for it. Objectively, the pacifist is pro-Nazi."
Chris Bryant (@ChrisBryantMP) 30/10/2014 17:52 David Coburn, UKIP MEP, crafted his words to be as deliberately offensive as possible equating gays with nazis and calling them queens.
I think if we take a poll of PBers at Dirty Dicks it will be significantly different to that taken at the Ilkley meet where we had 100% agreement on the next PM.
I think if we take a poll of PBers at Dirty Dicks it will be significantly different to that taken at the Ilkley meet where we had 100% agreement on the next PM.
4 months is a long time in Politics.
We just lulled you into a false sense of security in Ilkley.
I think if we take a poll of PBers at Dirty Dicks it will be significantly different to that taken at the Ilkley meet where we had 100% agreement on the next PM.
4 months is a long time in Politics.
Most seats is a coin flip now. Ed may still yet be PM...
I really do hope Labour win the South Yorkshire Police Commissioner by-election.
If Labour lose it, then they might ditch Ed.
Damnit, I should have given Lab my second pref.
muppet - we also need UKIP to lose some of the narrative of their 'roll' they are on.... where can I bet on the tory's winning Rochester in the GE even if the pig dog does cling on for a few more squalid months.
If only this election had been conducted under AV.
I am rather surprised at Labour's awful polling in Scotland. I wonder if Ed will come under vast pressure before Christmas. The Conservatives must be enjoying the time off.
Thats The Hon. Dr Tristram Julian William Hunt FRHistS MP to you......and not that it should matter where his parents decided to educate him (tho it seems to excite some on the left), but his Labour councillor father sent him to University College School....not Eton......
I could be wrong, but I seem to recall Cameron pointing out that they went to the same school.
I'm driven mostly by the markets. I have taken Tory Most Seats, as it is clearly value at longer than evens. What price would you need to back it?
The last value bet on here was NOT the usual suspects saying how there was value in backing the Blues at circa 4-1 in Rochester.... worst confirmation bias I could have needed to see me bulk up on it.....
Doh!!! Curse that hound dog pig traitor.
That was possibly me. I took backed the Tories at 4-1 - which now rates as my worst ever bet!!
You aren't a Spurs fan/victim are you too....
No. A big fan of another similarly underachieving club but I don't reveal biographical details on here, as much as I would like to. Too many oddballs about, sadly. (Your good self not in any way included in that)
Hey, I'm a definite odd-ball.... how dare you.
Who else bets on Rev Oswald from Bread and TBA Tory in Rochester just because I'm a tory at the 'wet' side of the team who wants turncoats vanquished even though their EU views always sat at odds to mine whilst in the same team.
They are the KP's of the Tory party.... trouble inside, trouble outside but bottom line we're weaker versus the main enemy, the Aussies without them.
I really do hope Labour win the South Yorkshire Police Commissioner by-election.
If Labour lose it, then they might ditch Ed.
Damnit, I should have given Lab my second pref.
muppet - we also need UKIP to lose some of the narrative of their 'roll' they are on.... where can I bet on the tory's winning Rochester in the GE even if the pig dog does cling on for a few more squalid months.
If only this election had been conducted under AV.
Would we be able to have a thread, reimagining Rochester under AV? That will be a cracker.
Don't you come across any Labour opinions when you're going about your wide political floating voter Tory member reading rounds?
In short: we're worried. But laughing at over-excited ignorant Tories at the same time, because we understand what's happening.
(always wrong, never learn)
Like you understood that it was safe to make all those hilarious "crossover" jokes because it would never happen, and that ed's attack on lord Freud was a strategic masterstroke. LOL. It must be bloody embarrassing being you.
I really do hope Labour win the South Yorkshire Police Commissioner by-election.
If Labour lose it, then they might ditch Ed.
Damnit, I should have given Lab my second pref.
muppet - we also need UKIP to lose some of the narrative of their 'roll' they are on.... where can I bet on the tory's winning Rochester in the GE even if the pig dog does cling on for a few more squalid months.
If only this election had been conducted under AV.
Would we be able to have a thread, reimagining Rochester under AV? That will be a cracker.
AV - what is this concept?? I think we need say 120 threads on it please.
AV of course will also be a further hit to Poch's Spurs job too.
Thats The Hon. Dr Tristram Julian William Hunt FRHistS MP to you......and not that it should matter where his parents decided to educate him (tho it seems to excite some on the left), but his Labour councillor father sent him to University College School....not Eton......
I could be wrong, but I seem to recall Cameron pointing out that they went to the same school.
"Tristram Hunt, their shadow education secretary, like me, had one of the best educations money can buy,"
I really do hope Labour win the South Yorkshire Police Commissioner by-election.
If Labour lose it, then they might ditch Ed.
Damnit, I should have given Lab my second pref.
muppet - we also need UKIP to lose some of the narrative of their 'roll' they are on.... where can I bet on the tory's winning Rochester in the GE even if the pig dog does cling on for a few more squalid months.
If only this election had been conducted under AV.
Would we be able to have a thread, reimagining Rochester under AV? That will be a cracker.
AV - what is this concept?? I think we need say 120 threads on it please.
Mike's planning to go on holiday next April and May, so I'll do a daily thread on electoral reform, and the merits of various electoral systems.
Have the "party of the working class" really got an Education Secretary who is the son of a Baron named Tristram having been to Eton?
Tristam Hunt did not go to Eton. He went to University College School.
"It may be inverted snobbishness but I don't want old style, Old Etonian Tories of the old school to succeed me and go back to the old complacent, consensus ways. John Major is someone who has fought his way up from the bottom and is far more in tune with the skilled and ambitious and worthwhile working classes than Douglas Hurd is." - Maggie Thatcher, November 1990.
@OliverKamm: White poppy created by Peace Pledge Union in 1930s, whose chair (Canon Stuart Morris) was member of pro-Nazi org.
Ouch-tastic!
Orwell summed them up well:
"Since pacifists have more freedom of action in countries where traces of democracy survive, pacifism can act more effectively against democracy than for it. Objectively, the pacifist is pro-Nazi."
The most staggering part of the poll, is that 37% trust Gordon Brown ? I mean what? What precisely does Labour have to do to these people before that realise they are getting rivitted wrotten? Start a nuclear war .....what?? I mean seriously what?
Phew, that must be a relief for Scottish Labour. Rather than the worrying 25 point swing against them since the last GE which IpsosMORI are reporting, YouGov report just a 19 point swing. With seven months to go, under Ed's inspirational leadership and with SLAB united and fighting-fit, they'll be cautiously optimistic, though of course not complacent.
Chris Bryant (@ChrisBryantMP) 30/10/2014 17:52 David Coburn, UKIP MEP, crafted his words to be as deliberately offensive as possible equating gays with nazis and calling them queens.
It might be better off to back the Tories not at most seats but in the individual seats markets.
There's a few ricks there if the Tories are going to be the largest party.
I can confirm that the individual seat markets are at present the way to go if you believe that the Conservatives will get most seats. I'll give more details in the next couple of days.
However, it's much more complicated than it was in 2010 because of the multiple axes of British politics operating at present.
@OliverKamm: White poppy created by Peace Pledge Union in 1930s, whose chair (Canon Stuart Morris) was member of pro-Nazi org.
Ouch-tastic!
Orwell summed them up well:
"Since pacifists have more freedom of action in countries where traces of democracy survive, pacifism can act more effectively against democracy than for it. Objectively, the pacifist is pro-Nazi."
As Sunder Katwala observes: The SNP last held balance of power in the Commons in deciding the 1979 no confidence vote against Jim Callaghan, ushering in Thatcher era
@OliverKamm: White poppy created by Peace Pledge Union in 1930s, whose chair (Canon Stuart Morris) was member of pro-Nazi org.
Ouch-tastic!
Orwell summed them up well:
"Since pacifists have more freedom of action in countries where traces of democracy survive, pacifism can act more effectively against democracy than for it. Objectively, the pacifist is pro-Nazi."
Orwell was not always right. Being opposed to a war does not mean being pro enemy.
So for example Nigel Farage opposing the British forces bombing Iraq does not make him an Islamist.
Nor has Nigel Farage suggested leaving Syria to the tender mercies of IS - as some Peace Pledge Union members did with Europe and the Nazis.
Certainly in the 1930s there were some pro fascists in the PPU, but it was a diverse organisation where Christians and Socialists dominated.
It is worth noting that in the 1930s a lot of people were not yet awake to the evil of nazism, but that would include the many in the SNP, Conservative party, Prince of Wales and the Daily Mail.
The PPU thought that the root of Nazism was in the unreasonable Versaillies treaty of 1919.
It might be better off to back the Tories not at most seats but in the individual seats markets.
There's a few ricks there if the Tories are going to be the largest party.
I can confirm that the individual seat markets are at present the way to go if you believe that the Conservatives will get most seats. I'll give more details in the next couple of days.
However, it's much more complicated than it was in 2010 because of the multiple axes of British politics operating at present.
Tell me about it.
I've also been thinking is there any potential for Con gains from Labour next year.
As Sunder Katwala observes: The SNP last held balance of power in the Commons in deciding the 1979 no confidence vote against Jim Callaghan, ushering in Thatcher era
Vote SNP, get Dave!
I thought it was Frank McManus (Republican from Fermanagh & S Tyrone) abstaining that caused Callaghan to lose the vote?
It might be better off to back the Tories not at most seats but in the individual seats markets.
There's a few ricks there if the Tories are going to be the largest party.
I can confirm that the individual seat markets are at present the way to go if you believe that the Conservatives will get most seats. I'll give more details in the next couple of days.
However, it's much more complicated than it was in 2010 because of the multiple axes of British politics operating at present.
Tell me about it.
I've also been thinking is there any potential for Con gains from Labour next year.
For all those who can't bear to sleep before finding out who 9% of the the Yorkshire electorate picked to run the fuzz (not me), the action-packed webiste is here:
It might be better off to back the Tories not at most seats but in the individual seats markets.
There's a few ricks there if the Tories are going to be the largest party.
I can confirm that the individual seat markets are at present the way to go if you believe that the Conservatives will get most seats. I'll give more details in the next couple of days.
However, it's much more complicated than it was in 2010 because of the multiple axes of British politics operating at present.
Tell me about it.
I've also been thinking is there any potential for Con gains from Labour next year.
Southampton Itchen according to more than one constituency poll. I can't think of any others.
Always been a big fan of Anthony Horowitz, he did more to get all three of my boys reading more books than JK Rowling managed! And he is always a great addition to any BBC QuestionTime panel, often even more on top of the issues of the day and the facts behind them than some of the politicians!
It might be better off to back the Tories not at most seats but in the individual seats markets.
There's a few ricks there if the Tories are going to be the largest party.
I can confirm that the individual seat markets are at present the way to go if you believe that the Conservatives will get most seats. I'll give more details in the next couple of days.
However, it's much more complicated than it was in 2010 because of the multiple axes of British politics operating at present.
Tell me about it.
I've also been thinking is there any potential for Con gains from Labour next year.
I really do hope Labour win the South Yorkshire Police Commissioner by-election.
If Labour lose it, then they might ditch Ed.
Damnit, I should have given Lab my second pref.
muppet - we also need UKIP to lose some of the narrative of their 'roll' they are on.... where can I bet on the tory's winning Rochester in the GE even if the pig dog does cling on for a few more squalid months.
If only this election had been conducted under AV.
Would we be able to have a thread, reimagining Rochester under AV? That will be a cracker.
AV - what is this concept?? I think we need say 120 threads on it please.
AV of course will also be a further hit to Poch's Spurs job too.
As Sunder Katwala observes: The SNP last held balance of power in the Commons in deciding the 1979 no confidence vote against Jim Callaghan, ushering in Thatcher era
Vote SNP, get Dave!
I thought it was Frank McManus (Republican from Fermanagh & S Tyrone) abstaining that caused Callaghan to lose the vote?
As Sunder Katwala observes: The SNP last held balance of power in the Commons in deciding the 1979 no confidence vote against Jim Callaghan, ushering in Thatcher era
Vote SNP, get Dave!
I thought it was Frank McManus (Republican from Fermanagh & S Tyrone) abstaining that caused Callaghan to lose the vote?
In a one vote loss there are many ways of skinning the cat - but the SNP got the ball rolling by tabling the first motion of no confidence and their 11 votes against the government were pretty decisive:
@OliverKamm: White poppy created by Peace Pledge Union in 1930s, whose chair (Canon Stuart Morris) was member of pro-Nazi org.
Ouch-tastic!
Orwell summed them up well:
"Since pacifists have more freedom of action in countries where traces of democracy survive, pacifism can act more effectively against democracy than for it. Objectively, the pacifist is pro-Nazi."
Orwell was not always right. Being opposed to a war does not mean being pro enemy.
So for example Nigel Farage opposing the British forces bombing Iraq does not make him an Islamist.
Nor has Nigel Farage suggested leaving Syria to the tender mercies of IS - as some Peace Pledge Union members did with Europe and the Nazis.
Certainly in the 1930s there were some pro fascists in the PPU, but it was a diverse organisation where Christians and Socialists dominated.
It is worth noting that in the 1930s a lot of people were not yet awake to the evil of nazism, but that would include the many in the SNP, Conservative party, Prince of Wales and the Daily Mail.
The PPU thought that the root of Nazism was in the unreasonable Versaillies treaty of 1919.
The Communists had already killed many more than the Nazis ever did, in Bavaria, Hungary, Russia etc. and were rightly regarded as the greater evil.
If anyone knows someone living in the UAE that understands betting and has time on their hands i need someone to help with some work at the Pakistan vs Australia cricket
I really do hope Labour win the South Yorkshire Police Commissioner by-election.
If Labour lose it, then they might ditch Ed.
Damnit, I should have given Lab my second pref.
muppet - we also need UKIP to lose some of the narrative of their 'roll' they are on.... where can I bet on the tory's winning Rochester in the GE even if the pig dog does cling on for a few more squalid months.
If only this election had been conducted under AV.
Would we be able to have a thread, reimagining Rochester under AV? That will be a cracker.
AV - what is this concept?? I think we need say 120 threads on it please.
AV of course will also be a further hit to Poch's Spurs job too.
Fitalass Indeed, the Alex Rider films with Alex Pettyfer were also hugely successful. my father recently told me his mother knew the Horowitz family and he went on several holidays with them and even when younger he was an interesting guy
As Sunder Katwala observes: The SNP last held balance of power in the Commons in deciding the 1979 no confidence vote against Jim Callaghan, ushering in Thatcher era
Vote SNP, get Dave!
I thought it was Frank McManus (Republican from Fermanagh & S Tyrone) abstaining that caused Callaghan to lose the vote?
In a one vote loss there are many ways of skinning the cat - but the SNP got the ball rolling by tabling the first motion of no confidence and their 11 votes against the government were pretty decisive:
Alan Johnson on BBC: Nick Clegg didn't even bother voting in the PCC election.
Not sure how he would know that information. Clegg may have voted by post, for example.
Cause he or his spokesman said so the other day.
He said as there would be no Lib Dem candidate in the election he would not be voting.
Just reeks of petty sour grapes to me: he and his party didn't want PCCs but now they exist he would do well to rise above past disagreements and get Lib Dems standing, for the good of democracy if nothing else. They are the Liberal Democrats aren't they?
I really do hope Labour win the South Yorkshire Police Commissioner by-election.
If Labour lose it, then they might ditch Ed.
Damnit, I should have given Lab my second pref.
muppet - we also need UKIP to lose some of the narrative of their 'roll' they are on.... where can I bet on the tory's winning Rochester in the GE even if the pig dog does cling on for a few more squalid months.
If only this election had been conducted under AV.
Would we be able to have a thread, reimagining Rochester under AV? That will be a cracker.
AV - what is this concept?? I think we need say 120 threads on it please.
AV of course will also be a further hit to Poch's Spurs job too.
How did you vote on AV, IYDMMA?
If the AV vote were to be re-held now, do PBers reckon it would get the same result?
Tristrum Hunt is a very strange man. People in Stoke will vote for anything wearing a red rosette, clearly.
He polled just 12,600 votes, one of the lowest totals of any winning MP (excluding island constituencies).
He was rather famously parachuted in by Mandleson into a safe seat in place of a local councillor.
There was quite a strong kipper and BNP vote in 2010, but hard to see him losing in anything other than a landslide against Labour.
UKIP are an increasing threat to Labour in Stoke, although I think Stoke North is most likely to change hands since the MP there is retiring after 25 years.
Yep, that awful interview by Ed Miliband on SkyNews has to be one of his worst outings yet on a news Channel. Not only was Ed Miliband smirking, he actually laughed when he talked about Scotland voting NO in the Indy Referendum. So glad that he found the result of a very tough two year debate about the future of Scotland and its people so amusing. That Miliband interview was so poor, it proved in spades why Scottish Labour need a far stronger Leader to make up for Miliband's failure to connect with their base up here. I suspect that Jim Murphy and nearly all Scottish Labour's MP's and MSP's now realise that fact only too well.
I really do hope Labour win the South Yorkshire Police Commissioner by-election.
If Labour lose it, then they might ditch Ed.
Damnit, I should have given Lab my second pref.
muppet - we also need UKIP to lose some of the narrative of their 'roll' they are on.... where can I bet on the tory's winning Rochester in the GE even if the pig dog does cling on for a few more squalid months.
If only this election had been conducted under AV.
Would we be able to have a thread, reimagining Rochester under AV? That will be a cracker.
AV - what is this concept?? I think we need say 120 threads on it please.
AV of course will also be a further hit to Poch's Spurs job too.
How did you vote on AV, IYDMMA?
If the AV vote were to be re-held now, do PBers reckon it would get the same result?
It would probably be an even bigger No, since people are grumpier now than they were in 2011.
I really do hope Labour win the South Yorkshire Police Commissioner by-election.
If Labour lose it, then they might ditch Ed.
Damnit, I should have given Lab my second pref.
muppet - we also need UKIP to lose some of the narrative of their 'roll' they are on.... where can I bet on the tory's winning Rochester in the GE even if the pig dog does cling on for a few more squalid months.
If only this election had been conducted under AV.
Would we be able to have a thread, reimagining Rochester under AV? That will be a cracker.
AV - what is this concept?? I think we need say 120 threads on it please.
AV of course will also be a further hit to Poch's Spurs job too.
Yep, that awful interview by Ed Miliband on SkyNews has to be one of his worst outings yet on a news Channel. Not only was Ed Miliband smirking, he actually laughed when he talked about Scotland voting NO in the Indy Referendum. So glad that he found the result of a very tough two year debate about the future of Scotland and its people so amusing. That Miliband interview was so poor, it proved in spades why Scottish Labour need a far stronger Leader to make up for Miliband's failure to connect with their base up here. I suspect that Jim Murphy and nearly all Scottish Labour's MP's and MSP's now realise that fact only too well.
I really do hope Labour win the South Yorkshire Police Commissioner by-election.
If Labour lose it, then they might ditch Ed.
Damnit, I should have given Lab my second pref.
muppet - we also need UKIP to lose some of the narrative of their 'roll' they are on.... where can I bet on the tory's winning Rochester in the GE even if the pig dog does cling on for a few more squalid months.
If only this election had been conducted under AV.
Would we be able to have a thread, reimagining Rochester under AV? That will be a cracker.
AV - what is this concept?? I think we need say 120 threads on it please.
AV of course will also be a further hit to Poch's Spurs job too.
How did you vote on AV, IYDMMA?
Could have sworn you were on PB long before the AV vote. Anyway, I voted NO too, but only because STV wasn't an option
If anyone knows someone living in the UAE that understands betting and has time on their hands i need someone to help with some work at the Pakistan vs Australia cricket
Few quid in it
I don't but I'm loving watching the Aussies getting trashed. The only Aussies that haven't bowled this innings are Brad Haddin and the openers.
I actually feel sorry for Miliband sometimes. He's a nice guy and he's clearly trying to learn social skills and body language to come over as strong/normal. But he's just got so far to go. And, on top of that, he's just not got the intellect to be a great thinker or the right instincts to be a leader of men. What's particularly sad is that he is bright enough to know that he's out of his depth but is trying to put a brave face on it.
Yep, that awful interview by Ed Miliband on SkyNews has to be one of his worst outings yet on a news Channel. Not only was Ed Miliband smirking, he actually laughed when he talked about Scotland voting NO in the Indy Referendum. So glad that he found the result of a very tough two year debate about the future of Scotland and its people so amusing. That Miliband interview was so poor, it proved in spades why Scottish Labour need a far stronger Leader to make up for Miliband's failure to connect with their base up here. I suspect that Jim Murphy and nearly all Scottish Labour's MP's and MSP's now realise that fact only too well.
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My hearts not in it thats why i am a rubbish gambler maybe.
May well still reduce potential Gain/Loss a bit further though.
Your heart shouldn't really be in any bets when it comes to political gambling I think. Your head should ^_~
Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB
LAB HOLD Ironbridge Gorge on Telford & Wrekin
LAB 325
CON 276
UKIP 136
True but you then have to hope you get them right and that UNS applies. You get into a tricky scenario where you have to apply regional trends (eg Lab strong in London etc etc) to make money.
I am happy to back CMS at longer than even money as if I am wrong Labour win anyway.
Doh!!! Curse that hound dog pig traitor.
It makes the member for St Helen's and his butler look normal.
So when they do lose, you have winnings to drown your sorrows.
Well if they do win, then you're chuffed to buggery and the money is irrelevant.
The blank sheet of paper has become the vacant stare...?
But 10/11 and 11/8 should really be a no brainer shouldnt it.
Win/Win i suppose Just taken a bit of the 2.36 now worst case less than £700
Probably down to 2.1 in next few days
If Labour lose it, then they might ditch Ed.
Damnit, I should have given Lab my second pref.
Again.
Just I've never seen so many original thoughts from you.
From your own actual brain and everything! Well done!
"Since pacifists have more freedom of action in countries where traces of democracy survive, pacifism can act more effectively against democracy than for it. Objectively, the pacifist is pro-Nazi."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_Pledge_Union
Chris Bryant (@ChrisBryantMP)
30/10/2014 17:52
David Coburn, UKIP MEP, crafted his words to be as deliberately offensive as possible equating gays with nazis and calling them queens.
4 months is a long time in Politics.
Like the Rebel Alliance at the Battle of Yavin
I'[m not ruling anything in, or out.
Who else bets on Rev Oswald from Bread and TBA Tory in Rochester just because I'm a tory at the 'wet' side of the team who wants turncoats vanquished even though their EU views always sat at odds to mine whilst in the same team.
They are the KP's of the Tory party.... trouble inside, trouble outside but bottom line we're weaker versus the main enemy, the Aussies without them.
AV of course will also be a further hit to Poch's Spurs job too.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/04/tristram-hunt-condemns-david-cameron-low-rent-pr-man
Rather funny article where Hunt condemns Cameron for personal abuse, then describes him as a 'low-rent PR man'.......
- Maggie Thatcher, November 1990.
So for example Nigel Farage opposing the British forces bombing Iraq does not make him an Islamist.
Similarly being allied with Stalin did not make Churchill a Communist.
Red rosé Donkey country for sure
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Not popular but true.
However, it's much more complicated than it was in 2010 because of the multiple axes of British politics operating at present.
Vote SNP, get Dave!
It is worth noting that in the 1930s a lot of people were not yet awake to the evil of nazism, but that would include the many in the SNP, Conservative party, Prince of Wales and the Daily Mail.
The PPU thought that the root of Nazism was in the unreasonable Versaillies treaty of 1919.
I've also been thinking is there any potential for Con gains from Labour next year.
https://www.barnsley.gov.uk/services/council-and-democracy/councillors-democracy-and-elections/voting/current-elections
Yeah, there's a line for the result. It's not available yet. Keep reloading!
He said as there would be no Lib Dem candidate in the election he would not be voting.
But that is one of the seats I've backed
IIRC my first post was met with a snidey remark about my screen name. Hence my mission to use Mr et al courtesy and welcoming newbies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_vote_of_no_confidence_in_the_government_of_James_Callaghan
There was quite a strong kipper and BNP vote in 2010, but hard to see him losing in anything other than a landslide against Labour.
Few quid in it
McManus lost his seat in 1974!
FPTP isn't perfect - but it's clear.
EDIT - you can ask me anything. I have no shame or quarms.