He was asked what the difference was, and apologised for the inference that the "you know" comment made.
But its a fact that most people would rather live next door to Germans than Romanians, and for the same reasons as Farage stated later.
I guess if it were you, the Romanian ambassador or a German prince as a neighbour would be much of a muchness, but try living in Barking for a while and answering the question honestly #cloudcuckooland
I never lived in Barking, but I did rent a bedroom in a shared house in Southwark; my brother lived in Mile End.
I'm sure that people would rather live next to a decent, hard working family with 2.4 children and a pet dog. They may assume that those characteristics are more likely to be found among one group vs another.
But a politician shouldn't try to win votes by giving voice to ugly sentiments.
Unless the time you lived in that area was in the last ten years, its completely meaningless
Farage answered a question honestly in a hostile interview, and it turns out he was on the right side of public opinion... he wasn't trying to win votes by it I shouldn't think, although he may well in areas of mass Eastern European immigration.. they cant afford your lofty morals
Would it have been acceptable if Farage had said most people wouldn't want to live next to Jews or Blacks?
What is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
Why pick out Farage? Opinion polls say that most people would prefer Germans over Romanians as neighbours
Because he's asking us to vote for him and his party.
Well he said what most people think, and his party are on the up
Tonight though is one ocassion where people may prefer Romanians as neighbours, as I guess most Germans will be very noisy until the early hours
He was asked what the difference was, and apologised for the inference that the "you know" comment made.
But its a fact that most people would rather live next door to Germans than Romanians, and for the same reasons as Farage stated later.
I guess if it were you, the Romanian ambassador or a German prince as a neighbour would be much of a muchness, but try living in Barking for a while and answering the question honestly #cloudcuckooland
I never lived in Barking, but I did rent a bedroom in a shared house in Southwark; my brother lived in Mile End.
I'm sure that people would rather live next to a decent, hard working family with 2.4 children and a pet dog. They may assume that those characteristics are more likely to be found among one group vs another.
But a politician shouldn't try to win votes by giving voice to ugly sentiments.
Unless the time you lived in that area was in the last ten years, its completely meaningless
Farage answered a question honestly in a hostile interview, and it turns out he was on the right side of public opinion... he wasn't trying to win votes by it I shouldn't think, although he may well in areas of mass Eastern European immigration.. they cant afford your lofty morals
Would it have been acceptable if Farage had said most people wouldn't want to live next to Jews or Blacks?
What is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
Why pick out Farage? Opinion polls say that most people would prefer Germans over Romanians as neighbours
But I suspect if you did an anonymous opinion poll, you might find that a most people would prefer White over Black neighbours. Or Christian over Jewish neighbours. It just isn't a polite comment to make.
Personally, I think Farage mis-spoke, and meant to say 'Roma'. And I also think people miss the rest of the comment, about unemployed men. (Frankly, who wouldn't rather have an employed family of any nationality, rather than unemployment men of any nationality?)
He was asked what the difference was, and apologised for the inference that the "you know" comment made.
But its a fact that most people would rather live next door to Germans than Romanians, and for the same reasons as Farage stated later.
I guess if it were you, the Romanian ambassador or a German prince as a neighbour would be much of a muchness, but try living in Barking for a while and answering the question honestly #cloudcuckooland
I never lived in Barking, but I did rent a bedroom in a shared house in Southwark; my brother lived in Mile End.
I'm sure that people would rather live next to a decent, hard working family with 2.4 children and a pet dog. They may assume that those characteristics are more likely to be found among one group vs another.
But a politician shouldn't try to win votes by giving voice to ugly sentiments.
Unless the time you lived in that area was in the last ten years, its completely meaningless
Farage answered a question honestly in a hostile interview, and it turns out he was on the right side of public opinion... he wasn't trying to win votes by it I shouldn't think, although he may well in areas of mass Eastern European immigration.. they cant afford your lofty morals
Would it have been acceptable if Farage had said most people wouldn't want to live next to Jews or Blacks?
What is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
Why pick out Farage? Opinion polls say that most people would prefer Germans over Romanians as neighbours
But I suspect if you did an anonymous opinion poll, you might find that a most people would prefer White over Black neighbours. Or Christian over Jewish neighbours. It just isn't a polite comment to make.
Personally, I think Farage mis-spoke, and meant to say 'Roma'. And I also think people miss the rest of the comment, about unemployed men. (Frankly, who wouldn't rather have an employed family of any nationality, rather than unemployment men of any nationality?)
So you would agree,the free movement of people needs changing ?
He was asked what the difference was, and apologised for the inference that the "you know" comment made.
But its a fact that most people would rather live next door to Germans than Romanians, and for the same reasons as Farage stated later.
I guess if it were you, the Romanian ambassador or a German prince as a neighbour would be much of a muchness, but try living in Barking for a while and answering the question honestly #cloudcuckooland
I never lived in Barking, but I did rent a bedroom in a shared house in Southwark; my brother lived in Mile End.
I'm sure that people would rather live next to a decent, hard working family with 2.4 children and a pet dog. They may assume that those characteristics are more likely to be found among one group vs another.
But a politician shouldn't try to win votes by giving voice to ugly sentiments.
Unless the time you lived in that area was in the last ten years, its completely meaningless
Farage answered a question honestly in a hostile interview, and it turns out he was on the right side of public opinion... he wasn't trying to win votes by it I shouldn't think, although he may well in areas of mass Eastern European immigration.. they cant afford your lofty morals
Would it have been acceptable if Farage had said most people wouldn't want to live next to Jews or Blacks?
What is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
Why pick out Farage? Opinion polls say that most people would prefer Germans over Romanians as neighbours
Because he's asking us to vote for him and his party.
Well he said what most people think, and his party are on the up
Tonight though is one ocassion where people may prefer Romanians as neighbours, as I guess most Germans will be very noisy until the early hours
I agree with Burke.
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
and again
parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices, ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole.
He was asked what the difference was, and apologised for the inference that the "you know" comment made.
But its a fact that most people would rather live next door to Germans than Romanians, and for the same reasons as Farage stated later.
I guess if it were you, the Romanian ambassador or a German prince as a neighbour would be much of a muchness, but try living in Barking for a while and answering the question honestly #cloudcuckooland
I never lived in Barking, but I did rent a bedroom in a shared house in Southwark; my brother lived in Mile End.
I'm sure that people would rather live next to a decent, hard working family with 2.4 children and a pet dog. They may assume that those characteristics are more likely to be found among one group vs another.
But a politician shouldn't try to win votes by giving voice to ugly sentiments.
Unless the time you lived in that area was in the last ten years, its completely meaningless
Farage answered a question honestly in a hostile interview, and it turns out he was on the right side of public opinion... he wasn't trying to win votes by it I shouldn't think, although he may well in areas of mass Eastern European immigration.. they cant afford your lofty morals
Would it have been acceptable if Farage had said most people wouldn't want to live next to Jews or Blacks?
What is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
Why pick out Farage? Opinion polls say that most people would prefer Germans over Romanians as neighbours
Because he's asking us to vote for him and his party.
Well he said what most people think, and his party are on the up
Tonight though is one ocassion where people may prefer Romanians as neighbours, as I guess most Germans will be very noisy until the early hours
I agree with Burke.
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
and again
parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices, ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole.
Anna Soubry has it right (talking about Farage)
"I do not like your tone. You don't talk facts, you talk prejudice, you scaremonger, you put fear in people's hearts."
Congrats to Germany, but if ever there was a slow news thread, this is it! Does confirm UKIP voters as most isolationist though, only party with a plurality refusing to back either
He was asked what the difference was, and apologised for the inference that the "you know" comment made.
But its a fact that most people would rather live next door to Germans than Romanians, and for the same reasons as Farage stated later.
I guess if it were you, the Romanian ambassador or a German prince as a neighbour would be much of a muchness, but try living in Barking for a while and answering the question honestly #cloudcuckooland
I never lived in Barking, but I did rent a bedroom in a shared house in Southwark; my brother lived in Mile End.
I'm sure that people would rather live next to a decent, hard working family with 2.4 children and a pet dog. They may assume that those characteristics are more likely to be found among one group vs another.
But a politician shouldn't try to win votes by giving voice to ugly sentiments.
Unless the time you lived in that area was in the last ten years, its completely meaningless
Farage answered a question honestly in a hostile interview, and it turns out he was on the right side of public opinion... he wasn't trying to win votes by it I shouldn't think, although he may well in areas of mass Eastern European immigration.. they cant afford your lofty morals
Would it have been acceptable if Farage had said most people wouldn't want to live next to Jews or Blacks?
What is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
Why pick out Farage? Opinion polls say that most people would prefer Germans over Romanians as neighbours
But I suspect if you did an anonymous opinion poll, you might find that a most people would prefer White over Black neighbours. Or Christian over Jewish neighbours. It just isn't a polite comment to make.
Personally, I think Farage mis-spoke, and meant to say 'Roma'. And I also think people miss the rest of the comment, about unemployed men. (Frankly, who wouldn't rather have an employed family of any nationality, rather than unemployment men of any nationality?)
Farage was asked the question! He didn't volunteer the description
The countries are no more than a proxy for how wealthy and law abiding you would like you neighbours to be, and the average stereotype is the only thing to use in a forced "one or the other"
It's like asking would you prefer very rich neighbours to move in or extremely poor? That's all it really boils down to, but people want to use faux outrage to bite ukip... Problem us, most people agreed with them
Nobody's fault, of course, but the bottle-warmer appears to be broken and we didn't notice. As a result the cat's bedtime milk was not at the correct temperature. Well, my dears, if looks could kill. He is settling down now next to Herself but I fear we are in for a dawn meow session as he takes his revenge.
He was asked what the difference was, and apologised for the inference that the "you know" comment made.
But its a fact that most people would rather live next door to Germans than Romanians, and for the same reasons as Farage stated later.
I guess if it were you, the Romanian ambassador or a German prince as a neighbour would be much of a muchness, but try living in Barking for a while and answering the question honestly #cloudcuckooland
I never lived in Barking, but I did rent a bedroom in a shared house in Southwark; my brother lived in Mile End.
I'm sure that people would rather live next to a decent, hard working family with 2.4 children and a pet dog. They may assume that those characteristics are more likely to be found among one group vs another.
But a politician shouldn't try to win votes by giving voice to ugly sentiments.
Unless the time you lived in that area was in the last ten years, its completely meaningless
Farage answered a question honestly in a hostile interview, and it turns out he was on the right side of public opinion... he wasn't trying to win votes by it I shouldn't think, although he may well in areas of mass Eastern European immigration.. they cant afford your lofty morals
Would it have been acceptable if Farage had said most people wouldn't want to live next to Jews or Blacks?
What is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
Why pick out Farage? Opinion polls say that most people would prefer Germans over Romanians as neighbours
Because he's asking us to vote for him and his party.
Well he said what most people think, and his party are on the up
Tonight though is one ocassion where people may prefer Romanians as neighbours, as I guess most Germans will be very noisy until the early hours
I agree with Burke.
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
and again
parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices, ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole.
Do you have any idea how pompous you come across?
He was asked a question, he answered honestly. It reflected public opinion, the establishment don't like that so tried to make something of it
He was asked what the difference was, and apologised for the inference that the "you know" comment made.
But its a fact that most people would rather live next door to Germans than Romanians, and for the same reasons as Farage stated later.
I guess if it were you, the Romanian ambassador or a German prince as a neighbour would be much of a muchness, but try living in Barking for a while and answering the question honestly #cloudcuckooland
I never lived in Barking, but I did rent a bedroom in a shared house in Southwark; my brother lived in Mile End.
I'm sure that people would rather live next to a decent, hard working family with 2.4 children and a pet dog. They may assume that those characteristics are more likely to be found among one group vs another.
But a politician shouldn't try to win votes by giving voice to ugly sentiments.
Unless the time you lived in that area was in the last ten years, its completely meaningless
Farage answered a question honestly in a hostile interview, and it turns out he was on the right side of public opinion... he wasn't trying to win votes by it I shouldn't think, although he may well in areas of mass Eastern European immigration.. they cant afford your lofty morals
Would it have been acceptable if Farage had said most people wouldn't want to live next to Jews or Blacks?
What is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
Why pick out Farage? Opinion polls say that most people would prefer Germans over Romanians as neighbours
Because he's asking us to vote for him and his party.
Well he said what most people think, and his party are on the up
Tonight though is one ocassion where people may prefer Romanians as neighbours, as I guess most Germans will be very noisy until the early hours
I agree with Burke.
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
and again
parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices, ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole.
Anna Soubry has it right (talking about Farage)
"I do not like your tone. You don't talk facts, you talk prejudice, you scaremonger, you put fear in people's hearts."
I saw that question time... That's was hammy acting worthy of Midsomer Murders
I never lived in Barking, but I did rent a bedroom in a shared house in Southwark; my brother lived in Mile End.
I'm sure that people would rather live next to a decent, hard working family with 2.4 children and a pet dog. They may assume that those characteristics are more likely to be found among one group vs another.
But a politician shouldn't try to win votes by giving voice to ugly sentiments.
Unless the time you lived in that area was in the last ten years, its completely meaningless
Farage answered a question honestly in a hostile interview, and it turns out he was on the right side of public opinion... he wasn't trying to win votes by it I shouldn't think, although he may well in areas of mass Eastern European immigration.. they cant afford your lofty morals
Would it have been acceptable if Farage had said most people wouldn't want to live next to Jews or Blacks?
What is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
Why pick out Farage? Opinion polls say that most people would prefer Germans over Romanians as neighbours
Because he's asking us to vote for him and his party.
Well he said what most people think, and his party are on the up
Tonight though is one ocassion where people may prefer Romanians as neighbours, as I guess most Germans will be very noisy until the early hours
I agree with Burke.
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
and again
parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices, ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole.
Anna Soubry has it right (talking about Farage)
"I do not like your tone. You don't talk facts, you talk prejudice, you scaremonger, you put fear in people's hearts."
I saw that question time... That's was hammy acting worthy of Midsomer Murders
Am I the only one who thinks it a little disturbing to see so many people with their iPhones at the end of their outstretched right arms, filming successful Germans?
Unless the time you lived in that area was in the last ten years, its completely meaningless
Farage answered a question honestly in a hostile interview, and it turns out he was on the right side of public opinion... he wasn't trying to win votes by it I shouldn't think, although he may well in areas of mass Eastern European immigration.. they cant afford your lofty morals
Would it have been acceptable if Farage had said most people wouldn't want to live next to Jews or Blacks?
What is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
Why pick out Farage? Opinion polls say that most people would prefer Germans over Romanians as neighbours
Because he's asking us to vote for him and his party.
Well he said what most people think, and his party are on the up
Tonight though is one ocassion where people may prefer Romanians as neighbours, as I guess most Germans will be very noisy until the early hours
I agree with Burke.
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
and again
parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices, ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole.
Anna Soubry has it right (talking about Farage)
"I do not like your tone. You don't talk facts, you talk prejudice, you scaremonger, you put fear in people's hearts."
I saw that question time... That's was hammy acting worthy of Midsomer Murders
But accurate.
Nah. She's no good. Faux outrage, not even a conservative.
Listen, on a topical theme, the German Romanian neighbour question, could just as easily be
"who would you prefer to take a penalty for your side, a German or an Romanian?"
You could say German and get Mrs Merkel, while the Romanian would have been Gheorge Hagi, but if you have to answer you'd be best off saying German on average. No more than that.
Am I the only one who thinks it a little disturbing to see so many people with their iPhones at the end of their outstretched right arms, filming successful Germans?
And Argentina. But my main bet was on Brazil. I cashed out once Neymar was injured but betting-wise, this was a poor World Cup. My main belief (aside from Brazil winning) was that the Americans would do better than expected, but I never worked out how to bet on it.
Actually a better way of making the German or Romanian neighbour point would be to make ourselves the active person... Anyone living in your street can afford to live there and in all probability has the same kind of earnings as you,
The question should be 'would you rather move to an area of England with a large population of Germans or Romanians ?'
And Argentina. But my main bet was on Brazil. I cashed out once Neymar was injured but betting-wise, this was a poor World Cup. My main belief (aside from Brazil winning) was that the Americans would do better than expected, but I never worked out how to bet on it.
Well I profited the enourmous amount of 55p from this match and in total 3.40 pounds throughout the world cup despite losing almost all my gains on germany vs ghana.
I never lived in Barking, but I did rent a bedroom in a shared house in Southwark; my brother lived in Mile End.
I'm sure that people would rather live next to a decent, hard working family with 2.4 children and a pet dog. They may assume that those characteristics are more likely to be found among one group vs another.
But a politician shouldn't try to win votes by giving voice to ugly sentiments.
Unless the time you lived in that area was in the last ten years, its completely meaningless
Farage answered a question honestly in a hostile interview, and it turns out he was on the right side of public opinion... he wasn't trying to win votes by it I shouldn't think, although he may well in areas of mass Eastern European immigration.. they cant afford your lofty morals
Would it have been acceptable if Farage had said most people wouldn't want to live next to Jews or Blacks?
What is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
Why pick out Farage? Opinion polls say that most people would prefer Germans over Romanians as neighbours
Because he's asking us to vote for him and his party.
Well he said what most people think, and his party are on the up
Tonight though is one ocassion where people may prefer Romanians as neighbours, as I guess most Germans will be very noisy until the early hours
I agree with Burke.
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
and again
parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices, ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole.
Anna Soubry has it right (talking about Farage)
"I do not like your tone. You don't talk facts, you talk prejudice, you scaremonger, you put fear in people's hearts."
I saw that question time... That's was hammy acting worthy of Midsomer Murders
But accurate.
I am very much looking forward to the return of Dr Palmer to Westminster at the next election. Not only because I consider him to be a good man but because it will be such a pleasure to see Ms Soubry out on her ear.
It seems to me like the Mirror is being fed a lot of information (I think by the Exaro news people), and trying to run with these stories, in the way in which the Guardian did for phone hacking.
Has King Dan announced that todays revelations about Tory ministers and Thatcher is a disaster for Miliband yet?
What 'revelations' were those?
The UK seems to have gone completely, utterly mad. Of course it's not the first time - some of the 'revelations' are almost word-for-word like those of the Popish plot, except that then it was crucifixes rather than rent boys that were the subject of the 'revelations'.
Congrats to Germany, but if ever there was a slow news thread, this is it! Does confirm UKIP voters as most isolationist though, only party with a plurality refusing to back either
I thought that - there go UKIP wanting to live on a nother planet again.
He was asked what the difference was, and apologised for the inference that the "you know" comment made.
But its a fact that most people would rather live next door to Germans than Romanians, and for the same reasons as Farage stated later.
I guess if it were you, the Romanian ambassador or a German prince as a neighbour would be much of a muchness, but try living in Barking for a while and answering the question honestly #cloudcuckooland
I never lived in Barking, but I did rent a bedroom in a shared house in Southwark; my brother lived in Mile End.
I'm sure that people would rather live next to a decent, hard working family with 2.4 children and a pet dog. They may assume that those characteristics are more likely to be found among one group vs another.
But a politician shouldn't try to win votes by giving voice to ugly sentiments.
Unless the time you lived in that area was in the last ten years, its completely meaningless
Farage answered a question honestly in a hostile interview, and it turns out he was on the right side of public opinion... he wasn't trying to win votes by it I shouldn't think, although he may well in areas of mass Eastern European immigration.. they cant afford your lofty morals
Would it have been acceptable if Farage had said most people wouldn't want to live next to Jews or Blacks?
What is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
Why pick out Farage? Opinion polls say that most people would prefer Germans over Romanians as neighbours
Because he's asking us to vote for him and his party.
Well he said what most people think, and his party are on the up
Tonight though is one ocassion where people may prefer Romanians as neighbours, as I guess most Germans will be very noisy until the early hours
I agree with Burke.
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
and again
parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices, ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole.
Anna Soubry has it right (talking about Farage)
"I do not like your tone. You don't talk facts, you talk prejudice, you scaremonger, you put fear in people's hearts."
I am very much looking forward to the return of Dr Palmer to Westminster at the next election. Not only because I consider him to be a good man but because it will be such a pleasure to see Ms Soubry out on her ear.
Yes, Nick is just your sort of politician:
Voted very strongly for the Iraq war Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war Voted strongly for more EU integration Voted very strongly against a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU Voted strongly for introducing ID cards Voted very strongly for Labour's anti-terrorism laws
Same could be said of Germany,look at the German Team/Squad that beat England in the european U-21's final 4 nil,only 5 years ago that went on to win the 2014 WC.
I am very much looking forward to the return of Dr Palmer to Westminster at the next election. Not only because I consider him to be a good man but because it will be such a pleasure to see Ms Soubry out on her ear.
Yes, he's just your sort of politician:
Voted very strongly for the Iraq war Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war Voted strongly for more EU integration Voted very strongly against a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU Voted strongly for introducing ID cards Voted very strongly for Labour's anti-terrorism laws
Congrats to Germany, but if ever there was a slow news thread, this is it! Does confirm UKIP voters as most isolationist though, only party with a plurality refusing to back either
I thought that - there go UKIP wanting to live on a nother planet again.
Alternatively it could imply that there are more UKIP supporters with no interest in the World Cup at all. It is a remarkably odd position to take to feel that someone ought to suport one team or another just for the sake of it.
And given that the 'neither' reply was given by 42% of respondents overall it seems that UKIP supporters are not so far from the norm with that attitude.
I am very much looking forward to the return of Dr Palmer to Westminster at the next election. Not only because I consider him to be a good man but because it will be such a pleasure to see Ms Soubry out on her ear.
Yes, he's just your sort of politician:
Voted very strongly for the Iraq war Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war Voted strongly for more EU integration Voted very strongly against a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU Voted strongly for introducing ID cards Voted very strongly for Labour's anti-terrorism laws
Would it have been acceptable if Farage had said most people wouldn't want to live next to Jews or Blacks?
What is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
Why pick out Farage? Opinion polls say that most people would prefer Germans over Romanians as neighbours
Because he's asking us to vote for him and his party.
Wes
I agree with Burke.
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
and again
parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices, ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole.
Anna Soubry has it right (talking about Farage)
"I do not like your tone. You don't talk facts, you talk prejudice, you scaremonger, you put fear in people's hearts."
I saw that question time... That's was hammy acting worthy of Midsomer Murders
But accurate.
I am very much looking forward to the return of Dr Palmer to Westminster at the next election. Not only because I consider him to be a good man but because it will be such a pleasure to see Ms Soubry out on her ear.
Yes, I'm shocked that Kippers want to see Labour MPs returned, so we won't have a referendum on the European Union.
He was asked what the difference was, and apologised for the inference that the "you know" comment made.
But its a fact that most people would rather live next door to Germans than Romanians, and for the same reasons as Farage stated later.
I guess if it were you, the Romanian ambassador or a German prince as a neighbour would be much of a muchness, but try living in Barking for a while and answering the question honestly #cloudcuckooland
I never lived in Barking, but I did rent a bedroom in a shared house in Southwark; my brother lived in Mile End.
I'm sure that people would rather live next to a decent, hard working family with 2.4 children and a pet dog. They may assume that those characteristics are more likely to be found among one group vs another.
But a politician shouldn't try to win votes by giving voice to ugly sentiments.
Unless the time you lived in that area was in the last ten years, its completely meaningless
Farage answered a question honestly in a hostile interview, and it turns out he was on the right side of public opinion... he wasn't trying to win votes by it I shouldn't think, although he may well in areas of mass Eastern European immigration.. they cant afford your lofty morals
Would it have been acceptable if Farage had said most people wouldn't want to live next to Jews or Blacks?
What is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
A good point but wasted on a UKIP supporter - there is nothing unacceptable that Farage can say, simply saying it makes it acceptable. Lines? Come on!
Congrats to Germany, but if ever there was a slow news thread, this is it! Does confirm UKIP voters as most isolationist though, only party with a plurality refusing to back either
I thought that - there go UKIP wanting to live on a nother planet again.
Alternatively it could imply that there are more UKIP supporters with no interest in the World Cup at all. It is a remarkably odd position to take to feel that someone ought to suport one team or another just for the sake of it.
And given that the 'neither' reply was given by 42% of respondents overall it seems that UKIP supporters are not so far from the norm with that attitude.
I thought that a strange criticism of ukip supporters
Obv I am one, and I didn't care who won tonight, not out of some pathological hatred of foreigners, but because I quite like both teams.... Is that ok?
Same could be said of Germany,look at the German Team/Squad that beat England in the european U-21's final 4 nil,only 5 years ago that went on to win the 2014 WC.
Germany: Neuer; Beck, J. Boateng, Höwedes, Boenisch; Hummels; Johnson, Castro, Khedira, Özil; S. Wagner
Of that England U21, Walcott would have been there at this WC and that is it. Germany, upteen in the team and Johnson was very good for USA in this world cup.
I am very much looking forward to the return of Dr Palmer to Westminster at the next election. Not only because I consider him to be a good man but because it will be such a pleasure to see Ms Soubry out on her ear.
Yes, Nick is just your sort of politician:
Voted very strongly for the Iraq war Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war Voted strongly for more EU integration Voted very strongly against a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU Voted strongly for introducing ID cards Voted very strongly for Labour's anti-terrorism laws
No he is a friend and, even though his views are very different to mine on many subjects, he is an honest man who doesn't hide his opinions. Believe it or not (and I know you might find this a difficult concept to grasp) somethings are more important than politics.
Would it have been acceptable if Farage had said most people wouldn't want to live next to Jews or Blacks?
What is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
Why pick out Farage? Opinion polls say that most people would prefer Germans over Romanians as neighbours
Because he's asking us to vote for him and his party.
Wes
I agree with Burke.
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
and again
parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices, ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole.
Anna Soubry has it right (talking about Farage)
"I do not like your tone. You don't talk facts, you talk prejudice, you scaremonger, you put fear in people's hearts."
I saw that question time... That's was hammy acting worthy of Midsomer Murders
But accurate.
I am very much looking forward to the return of Dr Palmer to Westminster at the next election. Not only because I consider him to be a good man but because it will be such a pleasure to see Ms Soubry out on her ear.
Yes, I'm shocked that Kippers want to see Labour MPs returned, so we won't have a referendum on the European Union.
I'm shocked I tell you.
See my answer to Richard N - and try not to faint at the horror of the thought that politics may not be the most important thing in the world.
Same could be said of Germany,look at the German Team/Squad that beat England in the european U-21's final 4 nil,only 5 years ago that went on to win the 2014 WC.
No he is a friend and, even though his views are very different to mine on many subjects, he is an honest man who doesn't hide his opinions. Believe it or not (and I know you might find this s difficult concept to grasp) somethings are more important than politics.
Yes, he is an honest man who doesn't hide his opinions, and yes, I like him too.
The amusing thing, though, is your hypocrisy. You go on and on about dislikiing party loyalists, and Nick is a good party loyalist. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but you seem to think there is, or at least you do in respect of others. And Anna Soubry is also honest and doesn't hide her opinions (which, incidentally, on all the issues you are particularly interested in, such as the EU and civil liberties, are much the same as Nick's), but you give her absolutely no credit for that.
Would it have been acceptable if Farage had said most people wouldn't want to live next to Jews or Blacks?
What is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
Why pick out Farage? Opinion polls say that most people would prefer Germans over Romanians as neighbours
Because he's asking us to vote for him and his party.
Wes
I agree with Burke.
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
and again
parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices, ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole.
Anna Soubry has it right (talking about Farage)
"I do not like your tone. You don't talk facts, you talk prejudice, you scaremonger, you put fear in people's hearts."
I saw that question time... That's was hammy acting worthy of Midsomer Murders
But accurate.
I am very much looking forward to the return of Dr Palmer to Westminster at the next election. Not only because I consider him to be a good man but because it will be such a pleasure to see Ms Soubry out on her ear.
Yes, I'm shocked that Kippers want to see Labour MPs returned, so we won't have a referendum on the European Union.
I'm shocked I tell you.
See my answer to Richard N - and try not to faint at the horror of the thought that politics may not be the most important thing in the world.
Oh it's not.
I shall be meeting the good Dr Palmer in September, I look forward to it.
No he is a friend and, even though his views are very different to mine on many subjects, he is an honest man who doesn't hide his opinions. Believe it or not (and I know you might find this s difficult concept to grasp) somethings are more important than politics.
Yes, he is an honest man who doesn't hide his opinions, and yes, I like him too.
The amusing thing, though, is your hypocrisy. You go on and on about dislikiing party loyalists, and Nick is a good party loyalist. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but you seem to think there is, or at least you do in respect of others. And Anna Soubry is also honest and doesn't hide her opinions, but you give her absolutely no credit for that.
Your prejudice is so transparent!
Did you miss the bit about him being a friend and that being more important than politics? Or were you just ignoring that because it doesn't fit with your fanatical party prejudice?
Edit: and just to make it absolutely clear what I mean by that, given a choice between Nick and Nigel Farage being elected, I would choose Nick.
I am very much looking forward to the return of Dr Palmer to Westminster at the next election. Not only because I consider him to be a good man but because it will be such a pleasure to see Ms Soubry out on her ear.
Yes, Nick is just your sort of politician:
Voted very strongly for the Iraq war Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war Voted strongly for more EU integration Voted very strongly against a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU Voted strongly for introducing ID cards Voted very strongly for Labour's anti-terrorism laws
No he is a friend and, even though his views are very different to mine on many subjects, he is an honest man who doesn't hide his opinions. Believe it or not (and I know you might find this a difficult concept to grasp) somethings are more important than politics.
Vote New Labour, a vote for change, a vote for honesty, a vote for peace, prosperity and freedom.
(Personally I believe that anyone who supported all those things should mandatory join the great Blair in spreading peace in the middle eastern tourist resorts and never to set foot in Britain again)
Did you miss the bit about him being a friend and that being more important than politics? Or were you just ignoring that because it doesn't fit with your fanatical party prejudice?
Oh, if you are saying we should choose MPs because they are friends, irrespective of policy and whether we get good government from it, and that your view is coloured by personal dislike of Anna Soubry, then that is fair enough, albeit childish.
100% disagreement record remains in place! well done
HEnry was great but he left after 10 days
Lawro, Pearce, Keown, Murphy etc not for me
I have to say both channels had some right duffers.
BBC....Savage.....
But ITV...Cannavaro & Childs to name two...only saved by Martin O'Neil getting beyond telling us that lad was good / bad.
Both channels need to look for those who can provide proper insight in the way Neville does on Sky. Somebody who played at the highest level, but is also able to provide high level analysis. I want to know why certain players / teams are doing what might seen totally wrong to us laymen.
Henry did well for the BBC. I think Murphy did ok for the BBC, but really I don't need 4 in the studio, then going to him pitch side with an interviewer, then 2 commentators, all telling me the same thing.
This is a growing trend, that you see a lot in American sports, and it doesn't provide a better experience as they have to rush around trying to get each talking head to say something.
In terms of insight into the South American game and players from that region, nobody can touch Tim Vickery.
No he is a friend and, even though his views are very different to mine on many subjects, he is an honest man who doesn't hide his opinions. Believe it or not (and I know you might find this s difficult concept to grasp) somethings are more important than politics.
Yes, he is an honest man who doesn't hide his opinions, and yes, I like him too.
The amusing thing, though, is your hypocrisy. You go on and on about dislikiing party loyalists, and Nick is a good party loyalist. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but you seem to think there is, or at least you do in respect of others. And Anna Soubry is also honest and doesn't hide her opinions, but you give her absolutely no credit for that.
Your prejudice is so transparent!
Did you miss the bit about him being a friend and that being more important than politics? Or were you just ignoring that because it doesn't fit with your fanatical party prejudice?
Edit: and just to make it absolutely clear what I mean by that, given a choice between Nick and Nigel Farage being elected, I would choose Nick.
If its a contest nationally that would make Farage win the biggest landslide in history. However I would like to see a pollster asking that question just to be sure. If Nick Clegg and Nigel Farage were the only candidates in your constituency who would you vote for?
Did you miss the bit about him being a friend and that being more important than politics? Or were you just ignoring that because it doesn't fit with your fanatical party prejudice?
Oh, if you are saying we should choose MPs because they are friends, irrespective of policy and whether we get good government from it, and that your view is coloured by personal dislike of Anna Soubry, then that is fair enough, albeit childish.
Why is it childish? I previously campaigned in two elections for a Tory MP who was a friend. It was my insight into his views on many matters resulting from personal contact with him that eventually made me change my opinion of him and stop supporting him. Surely personal interaction with someone gives a much better insight into their nature than simple political grandstanding?
SeanT says ... 'Farage's mistake was his failure of nerve. Of course what he really meant by 'Romanians' was Roma aka gypsies. But in trying to vaguely toe the PC line while being interestingly honest he said 'Romanians'. '
In fact the nationalities were put to him. He said, wink wink nudge nudge... pause whilst I blow my dog whistle, 'you know what the difference is'
I can safely say I don't like you Mr SeanT. No need for dog whistles from me on that. Indeed my flesh creeps reading what you write.
No he is a friend and, even though his views are very different to mine on many subjects, he is an honest man who doesn't hide his opinions. Believe it or not (and I know you might find this s difficult concept to grasp) somethings are more important than politics.
Yes, he is an honest man who doesn't hide his opinions, and yes, I like him too.
The amusing thing, though, is your hypocrisy. You go on and on about dislikiing party loyalists, and Nick is a good party loyalist. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but you seem to think there is, or at least you do in respect of others. And Anna Soubry is also honest and doesn't hide her opinions, but you give her absolutely no credit for that.
Your prejudice is so transparent!
Did you miss the bit about him being a friend and that being more important than politics? Or were you just ignoring that because it doesn't fit with your fanatical party prejudice?
Edit: and just to make it absolutely clear what I mean by that, given a choice between Nick and Nigel Farage being elected, I would choose Nick.
If its a contest nationally that would make Farage win the biggest landslide in history. However I would like to see a pollster asking that question just to be sure. If Nick Clegg and Nigel Farage were the only candidates in your constituency who would you vote for?
Haha if you think that would be a landslide, I can't imagine what you would think of a Nick Palmer vs Farage contest which is the choice on offer!!!!
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No he is a friend and, even though his views are very different to mine on many subjects, he is an honest man who doesn't hide his opinions. Believe it or not (and I know you might find this s difficult concept to grasp) somethings are more important than politics.
Yes, he is an honest man who doesn't hide his opinions, and yes, I like him too.
The amusing thing, though, is your hypocrisy. You go on and on about dislikiing party loyalists, and Nick is a good party loyalist. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but you seem to think there is, or at least you do in respect of others. And Anna Soubry is also honest and doesn't hide her opinions, but you give her absolutely no credit for that.
Your prejudice is so transparent!
Did you miss the bit about him being a friend and that being more important than politics? Or were you just ignoring that because it doesn't fit with your fanatical party prejudice?
Edit: and just to make it absolutely clear what I mean by that, given a choice between Nick and Nigel Farage being elected, I would choose Nick.
If its a contest nationally that would make Farage win the biggest landslide in history. However I would like to see a pollster asking that question just to be sure. If Nick Clegg and Nigel Farage were the only candidates in your constituency who would you vote for?
Sorry Speedy, maybe I wasn't clear. I was referring to Nick Palmer not Nick Clegg. I would choose Farage over Clegg any day.
Thanks for the friendly comments on the thread, all of them reciprocated. I'm not quite the party loyalist that I used to be, though that's moved me further from the Conservatives rather than closer.
Like most UKIP voters and 43% of Tories I just enjoyed the game tonight and didn't care who won. The result seemed an exact representation - both sides better at defence than offence, but Germany's endurance and precision narrowly beating Argentina's flair in the end. Would have been a shame it had gone to penalities.
An even better way of handling that Farage mistake would be to give it a rest by accepting it and moving on! Right now, I have this fecking nightmare scenario where you are on here in 40 years time still claiming that Farage's comments were misinterpreted and that he was right all along.
Actually a better way of making the German or Romanian neighbour point would be to make ourselves the active person... Anyone living in your street can afford to live there and in all probability has the same kind of earnings as you,
The question should be 'would you rather move to an area of England with a large population of Germans or Romanians ?'
The prospect of a new job for Mr Lansley appeared to have reached a dead end last night as the Conservatives ruled out choosing an MP as the next European commissioner.......
....Possible contenders for the European role include Lord Howard of Lympne, the former Conservative leader, Lord Hill of Oareford, the Tory leader in the upper chamber, and Baroness Wheatcroft, the former newspaper editor and business journalist.
Thanks for the friendly comments on the thread, all of them reciprocated. I'm not quite the party loyalist that I used to be, though that's moved me further from the Conservatives rather than closer.
Like most UKIP voters and 43% of Tories I just enjoyed the game tonight and didn't care who won. The result seemed an exact representation - both sides better at defence than offence, but Germany's endurance and precision narrowly beating Argentina's flair in the end. Would have been a shame it had gone to penalities.
Another victory for Deutschland! And for the EU.
I am modestly up on the WC; jr more so as he had Germany in the village sweepstake. I got landed with England...
An even better way of handling that Farage mistake would be to give it a rest by accepting it and moving on! Right now, I have this fecking nightmare scenario where you are on here in 40 years time still claiming that Farage's comments were misinterpreted and that he was right all along.
Actually a better way of making the German or Romanian neighbour point would be to make ourselves the active person... Anyone living in your street can afford to live there and in all probability has the same kind of earnings as you,
The question should be 'would you rather move to an area of England with a large population of Germans or Romanians ?'
Give it a while, according to polish goverment statistics 1.5 million poles left the country most of them to Britain in the 2004-2007 period. That was 1/7th of the polish workforce.
An even better way of handling that Farage mistake would be to give it a rest by accepting it and moving on! Right now, I have this fecking nightmare scenario where you are on here in 40 years time still claiming that Farage's comments were misinterpreted and that he was right all along.
Actually a better way of making the German or Romanian neighbour point would be to make ourselves the active person... Anyone living in your street can afford to live there and in all probability has the same kind of earnings as you,
The question should be 'would you rather move to an area of England with a large population of Germans or Romanians ?'
I never bring it up up, I respond to others, and if people try to make false accusations in 40 years time I'll be here to correct them as sure as you post pro Tory stuff while everyone else is akip
Thanks for the friendly comments on the thread, all of them reciprocated. I'm not quite the party loyalist that I used to be, though that's moved me further from the Conservatives rather than closer.
Like most UKIP voters and 43% of Tories I just enjoyed the game tonight and didn't care who won. The result seemed an exact representation - both sides better at defence than offence, but Germany's endurance and precision narrowly beating Argentina's flair in the end. Would have been a shame it had gone to penalities.
Another victory for Deutschland! And for the EU.
I am modestly up on the WC; jr more so as he had Germany in the village sweepstake. I got landed with England...
If the EU had a team they would have been knocked out a long time ago. Germany won because it trained systematically millions of german kids for a decade and selected the best from them. An EU team would be a multinational political mush not being able to form a proper team as there would be national quotas for selecting players and have governments bickering over who should be in it, as such not many of the super german team would have made it into an EU team.
Thanks for the friendly comments on the thread, all of them reciprocated. I'm not quite the party loyalist that I used to be, though that's moved me further from the Conservatives rather than closer.
Like most UKIP voters and 43% of Tories I just enjoyed the game tonight and didn't care who won. The result seemed an exact representation - both sides better at defence than offence, but Germany's endurance and precision narrowly beating Argentina's flair in the end. Would have been a shame it had gone to penalities.
Another victory for Deutschland! And for the EU.
I am modestly up on the WC; jr more so as he had Germany in the village sweepstake. I got landed with England...
That's 3 consecutive WC wins for Schengen countries (4 out of the last 5, and 2nd in the other one in 2002). Also wins in the last 5 European championships.
Thanks for the friendly comments on the thread, all of them reciprocated. I'm not quite the party loyalist that I used to be, though that's moved me further from the Conservatives rather than closer.
Like most UKIP voters and 43% of Tories I just enjoyed the game tonight and didn't care who won. The result seemed an exact representation - both sides better at defence than offence, but Germany's endurance and precision narrowly beating Argentina's flair in the end. Would have been a shame it had gone to penalities.
Another victory for Deutschland! And for the EU.
I am modestly up on the WC; jr more so as he had Germany in the village sweepstake. I got landed with England...
If the EU had a team they would have been knocked out a long time ago. Germany won because it trained systematically millions of german kids for a decade and selected the best from them. An EU team would be a multinational political mush not being able to form a proper team as there would be national quotas for selecting players and have governments bickering over who should be in it, as such not many of the super german team would have made it into an EU team.
You mean it would've been like the British team at the Olympics?
Thanks for the friendly comments on the thread, all of them reciprocated. I'm not quite the party loyalist that I used to be, though that's moved me further from the Conservatives rather than closer.
Like most UKIP voters and 43% of Tories I just enjoyed the game tonight and didn't care who won. The result seemed an exact representation - both sides better at defence than offence, but Germany's endurance and precision narrowly beating Argentina's flair in the end. Would have been a shame it had gone to penalities.
Another victory for Deutschland! And for the EU.
I am modestly up on the WC; jr more so as he had Germany in the village sweepstake. I got landed with England...
If the EU had a team they would have been knocked out a long time ago. Germany won because it trained systematically millions of german kids for a decade and selected the best from them. An EU team would be a multinational political mush not being able to form a proper team as there would be national quotas for selecting players and have governments bickering over who should be in it, as such not many of the super german team would have made it into an EU team.
You mean it would've been like the British team at the Olympics?
Surely it would be like the Lions.
Minor countries boosted by some star qualities from the top dog that is England.
100% disagreement record remains in place! well done
HEnry was great but he left after 10 days
Lawro, Pearce, Keown, Murphy etc not for me
I have to say both channels had some right duffers.
BBC....Savage.....
But ITV...Cannavaro & Childs to name two...only saved by Martin O'Neil getting beyond telling us that lad was good / bad.
Both channels need to look for those who can provide proper insight in the way Neville does on Sky. Somebody who played at the highest level, but is also able to provide high level analysis. I want to know why certain players / teams are doing what might seen totally wrong to us laymen.
Henry did well for the BBC. I think Murphy did ok for the BBC, but really I don't need 4 in the studio, then going to him pitch side with an interviewer, then 2 commentators, all telling me the same thing.
This is a growing trend, that you see a lot in American sports, and it doesn't provide a better experience as they have to rush around trying to get each talking head to say something.
In terms of insight into the South American game and players from that region, nobody can touch Tim Vickery.
I dislike Rio Ferdinand as a person but thought he did really well as a pundit. The one who speaks a lot of sense is Chris Waddle, if you can actually understand him.
Thanks for the friendly comments on the thread, all of them reciprocated. I'm not quite the party loyalist that I used to be, though that's moved me further from the Conservatives rather than closer.
Like most UKIP voters and 43% of Tories I just enjoyed the game tonight and didn't care who won. The result seemed an exact representation - both sides better at defence than offence, but Germany's endurance and precision narrowly beating Argentina's flair in the end. Would have been a shame it had gone to penalities.
Another victory for Deutschland! And for the EU.
I am modestly up on the WC; jr more so as he had Germany in the village sweepstake. I got landed with England...
If the EU had a team they would have been knocked out a long time ago. Germany won because it trained systematically millions of german kids for a decade and selected the best from them. An EU team would be a multinational political mush not being able to form a proper team as there would be national quotas for selecting players and have governments bickering over who should be in it, as such not many of the super german team would have made it into an EU team.
You mean it would've been like the British team at the Olympics?
Surely it would be like the Lions.
Minor countries boosted by some star qualities from the top dog that is England.
Just tried to do an EU. World Cup xi.... Just Germany semi final team with Robben and RvP instead of Klose and Ozil isn't it?
"word began spreading around Whitehall that the investigation was going to draw some harsh conclusions: both about Fox's personal conduct, and the mosaic of business arrangements that Werritty was involved in.
"I don't think the resignation was a done deal until early in the afternoon," said one Whitehall official. But the mood music from the Cabinet Office was that the inquiry was going to be very damaging. It didn't leave Liam very much choice."
Watching the verdict... Completely agree w Willis, Butcher and Colville, and said so to my folks/ tried to back it at the time... How did Kumar not get MOTM? Two 50s from no 9 and 5wickets???? Ridiculous
The UK seems to have gone completely, utterly mad. Of course it's not the first time - some of the 'revelations' are almost word-for-word like those of the Popish plot, except that then it was crucifixes rather than rent boys that were the subject of the 'revelations'.
Yet the government is intent on establishing a Hillsborough-style inquiry into this salacious gossip. Let us remember that that inquiry published findings in which "those concerned have not had the opportunity to respond to comments or criticism". No one had the opportunity to make submissions about the interpretation of evidence to the inquiry. No oral evidence was taken. There was no cross examination of witnesses or testing of documents. The findings of previous independent judicial inquiries were ignored without proper explanation. Under the policy of "families first", relatives of the deceased had access to the report before others with an interest in the findings. Is it any wonder that such a flawed and unfair model of inquiry is favoured by the government into the latest moral panic?
Thanks for the friendly comments on the thread, all of them reciprocated. I'm not quite the party loyalist that I used to be, though that's moved me further from the Conservatives rather than closer.
Like most UKIP voters and 43% of Tories I just enjoyed the game tonight and didn't care who won. The result seemed an exact representation - both sides better at defence than offence, but Germany's endurance and precision narrowly beating Argentina's flair in the end. Would have been a shame it had gone to penalities.
Another victory for Deutschland! And for the EU.
I am modestly up on the WC; jr more so as he had Germany in the village sweepstake. I got landed with England...
If the EU had a team they would have been knocked out a long time ago. Germany won because it trained systematically millions of german kids for a decade and selected the best from them. An EU team would be a multinational political mush not being able to form a proper team as there would be national quotas for selecting players and have governments bickering over who should be in it, as such not many of the super german team would have made it into an EU team.
You mean it would've been like the British team at the Olympics?
Surely it would be like the Lions.
Minor countries boosted by some star qualities from the top dog that is England.
Just tried to do an EU. World Cup xi.... Just Germany semi final team with Robben and RvP instead of Klose and Ozil isn't it?
Thanks for the friendly comments on the thread, all of them reciprocated. I'm not quite the party loyalist that I used to be, though that's moved me further from the Conservatives rather than closer.
Like most UKIP voters and 43% of Tories I just enjoyed the game tonight and didn't care who won. The result seemed an exact representation - both sides better at defence than offence, but Germany's endurance and precision narrowly beating Argentina's flair in the end. Would have been a shame it had gone to penalities.
Another victory for Deutschland! And for the EU.
I am modestly up on the WC; jr more so as he had Germany in the village sweepstake. I got landed with England...
If the EU had a team they would have been knocked out a long time ago. Germany won because it trained systematically millions of german kids for a decade and selected the best from them. An EU team would be a multinational political mush not being able to form a proper team as there would be national quotas for selecting players and have governments bickering over who should be in it, as such not many of the super german team would have made it into an EU team.
You mean it would've been like the British team at the Olympics?
Surely it would be like the Lions.
Minor countries boosted by some star qualities from the top dog that is England.
Just tried to do an EU. World Cup xi.... Just Germany semi final team with Robben and RvP instead of Klose and Ozil isn't it?
Just players at the World Cup? Or do we get to talk about Zlatan, Bale etc?
And nah. Howedes doesn't make the cut certainly. Pogba into midfield.
Thanks for the friendly comments on the thread, all of them reciprocated. I'm not quite the party loyalist that I used to be, though that's moved me further from the Conservatives rather than closer.
Like most UKIP voters and 43% of Tories I just enjoyed the game tonight and didn't care who won. The result seemed an exact representation - both sides better at defence than offence, but Germany's endurance and precision narrowly beating Argentina's flair in the end. Would have been a shame it had gone to penalities.
Another victory for Deutschland! And for the EU.
I am modestly up on the WC; jr more so as he had Germany in the village sweepstake. I got landed with England...
If the EU had a team they would have been knocked out a long time ago. Germany won because it trained systematically millions of german kids for a decade and selected the best from them. An EU team would be a multinational political mush not being able to form a proper team as there would be national quotas for selecting players and have governments bickering over who should be in it, as such not many of the super german team would have made it into an EU team.
You mean it would've been like the British team at the Olympics?
Surely it would be like the Lions.
Minor countries boosted by some star qualities from the top dog that is England.
Just tried to do an EU. World Cup xi.... Just Germany semi final team with Robben and RvP instead of Klose and Ozil isn't it?
I'd still want Iniesta in my team
Sorry I guess I meant based on performances in this World Cup
At about 49 minutes into the match, BBC1 showed us an annoyingly pointless and irrelevant shot of the statue of Jesus in Rio, with the sun behind it, instead of showing us the match which we wanted to watch.
Was that in the feed from Brazil, which was supplied to all broadcasters worldwide, or was it an editorial decision by the BBC in moving away from footage of the match as it was happening? In other words, did ITV and others show the same thing at the same time?
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Tonight though is one ocassion where people may prefer Romanians as neighbours, as I guess most Germans will be very noisy until the early hours
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/euro-2016/winner
Personally, I think Farage mis-spoke, and meant to say 'Roma'. And I also think people miss the rest of the comment, about unemployed men. (Frankly, who wouldn't rather have an employed family of any nationality, rather than unemployment men of any nationality?)
So you would agree,the free movement of people needs changing ?
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
and again
parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices, ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole.
"I do not like your tone. You don't talk facts, you talk prejudice, you scaremonger, you put fear in people's hearts."
The countries are no more than a proxy for how wealthy and law abiding you would like you neighbours to be, and the average stereotype is the only thing to use in a forced "one or the other"
It's like asking would you prefer very rich neighbours to move in or extremely poor? That's all it really boils down to, but people want to use faux outrage to bite ukip... Problem us, most people agreed with them
He was asked a question, he answered honestly. It reflected public opinion, the establishment don't like that so tried to make something of it
Listen, on a topical theme, the German Romanian neighbour question, could just as easily be
"who would you prefer to take a penalty for your side, a German or an Romanian?"
You could say German and get Mrs Merkel, while the Romanian would have been Gheorge Hagi, but if you have to answer you'd be best off saying German on average. No more than that.
The question should be 'would you rather move to an area of England with a large population of Germans or Romanians ?'
It maybe ,if England keep bringing through youth teams like this,but at all levels.
England win European Under-17 Championship on penalties
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27512259
And prem clubs give English youth a chance ;-)
Award winning author: I was abused at council care home linked to ex-Labour minister
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/award-winning-author-abused-council-3852554
It seems to me like the Mirror is being fed a lot of information (I think by the Exaro news people), and trying to run with these stories, in the way in which the Guardian did for phone hacking.
The UK seems to have gone completely, utterly mad. Of course it's not the first time - some of the 'revelations' are almost word-for-word like those of the Popish plot, except that then it was crucifixes rather than rent boys that were the subject of the 'revelations'.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/award-winning-author-abused-council-3852554
Voted very strongly for the Iraq war
Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war
Voted strongly for more EU integration
Voted very strongly against a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU
Voted strongly for introducing ID cards
Voted very strongly for Labour's anti-terrorism laws
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10472/nick_palmer/broxtowe/votes#home
Wrighty, Hoddle, and theme tune the main reasons
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/jun/29/england-under-21s
And given that the 'neither' reply was given by 42% of respondents overall it seems that UKIP supporters are not so far from the norm with that attitude.
I'm shocked I tell you.
Obv I am one, and I didn't care who won tonight, not out of some pathological hatred of foreigners, but because I quite like both teams.... Is that ok?
Germany: Neuer; Beck, J. Boateng, Höwedes, Boenisch; Hummels; Johnson, Castro, Khedira, Özil; S. Wagner
Of that England U21, Walcott would have been there at this WC and that is it. Germany, upteen in the team and Johnson was very good for USA in this world cup.
Seedorf, and Henry especially were excellent.
ITV punditry poor as usual.
The amusing thing, though, is your hypocrisy. You go on and on about dislikiing party loyalists, and Nick is a good party loyalist. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but you seem to think there is, or at least you do in respect of others. And Anna Soubry is also honest and doesn't hide her opinions (which, incidentally, on all the issues you are particularly interested in, such as the EU and civil liberties, are much the same as Nick's), but you give her absolutely no credit for that.
Your prejudice is so transparent!
I shall be meeting the good Dr Palmer in September, I look forward to it.
Edit: and just to make it absolutely clear what I mean by that, given a choice between Nick and Nigel Farage being elected, I would choose Nick.
HEnry was great but he left after 10 days
Lawro, Pearce, Keown, Murphy etc not for me
(Personally I believe that anyone who supported all those things should mandatory join the great Blair in spreading peace in the middle eastern tourist resorts and never to set foot in Britain again)
@corporeal "no you don't, he gets paid a fortune, people are starving in Africa" ????
BBC....Savage.....
But ITV...Cannavaro & Childs to name two...only saved by Martin O'Neil getting beyond telling us that lad was good / bad.
Both channels need to look for those who can provide proper insight in the way Neville does on Sky. Somebody who played at the highest level, but is also able to provide high level analysis. I want to know why certain players / teams are doing what might seen totally wrong to us laymen.
Henry did well for the BBC. I think Murphy did ok for the BBC, but really I don't need 4 in the studio, then going to him pitch side with an interviewer, then 2 commentators, all telling me the same thing.
This is a growing trend, that you see a lot in American sports, and it doesn't provide a better experience as they have to rush around trying to get each talking head to say something.
In terms of insight into the South American game and players from that region, nobody can touch Tim Vickery.
However I would like to see a pollster asking that question just to be sure.
If Nick Clegg and Nigel Farage were the only candidates in your constituency who would you vote for?
'Farage's mistake was his failure of nerve. Of course what he really meant by 'Romanians' was Roma aka gypsies. But in trying to vaguely toe the PC line while being interestingly honest he said 'Romanians'. '
In fact the nationalities were put to him. He said, wink wink nudge nudge... pause whilst I blow my dog whistle, 'you know what the difference is'
I can safely say I don't like you Mr SeanT. No need for dog whistles from me on that. Indeed my flesh creeps reading what you write.
Sky Bet @SkyBet 13m
One punter has well and truly #skybettered us. He placed this fivefold in August and has won over £83,000! Well done!
Man City to win Premier League
QPR to be promoted from the Sky Bet championship
Wolves to win Sky Bet League 1
Real Madrid to win the Champions League
Germany to win the World Cup
Like most UKIP voters and 43% of Tories I just enjoyed the game tonight and didn't care who won. The result seemed an exact representation - both sides better at defence than offence, but Germany's endurance and precision narrowly beating Argentina's flair in the end. Would have been a shame it had gone to penalities.
The prospect of a new job for Mr Lansley appeared to have reached a dead end last night as the Conservatives ruled out choosing an MP as the next European commissioner.......
....Possible contenders for the European role include Lord Howard of Lympne, the former Conservative leader, Lord Hill of Oareford, the Tory leader in the upper chamber, and Baroness Wheatcroft, the former newspaper editor and business journalist.
#FerFuxSake
I am modestly up on the WC; jr more so as he had Germany in the village sweepstake. I got landed with England...
Congratulations to Germany ! The best team won. Boateng Man of the Match.
Germany won because it trained systematically millions of german kids for a decade and selected the best from them.
An EU team would be a multinational political mush not being able to form a proper team as there would be national quotas for selecting players and have governments bickering over who should be in it, as such not many of the super german team would have made it into an EU team.
Time to start digging into those Saudi defence deals.
Minor countries boosted by some star qualities from the top dog that is England.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/oct/14/liam-fox-resignation-adam-werritty
"word began spreading around Whitehall that the investigation was going to draw some harsh conclusions: both about Fox's personal conduct, and the mosaic of business arrangements that Werritty was involved in.
"I don't think the resignation was a done deal until early in the afternoon," said one Whitehall official. But the mood music from the Cabinet Office was that the inquiry was going to be very damaging. It didn't leave Liam very much choice."
And nah. Howedes doesn't make the cut certainly. Pogba into midfield.
(Same goes for Portugal)
Total coincidence that Messi is sponsored by Adidas.
At about 49 minutes into the match, BBC1 showed us an annoyingly pointless and irrelevant shot of the statue of Jesus in Rio, with the sun behind it, instead of showing us the match which we wanted to watch.
Was that in the feed from Brazil, which was supplied to all broadcasters worldwide, or was it an editorial decision by the BBC in moving away from footage of the match as it was happening? In other words, did ITV and others show the same thing at the same time?