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  • oldnatoldnat Posts: 136

    USA! USA! USA!

    :)

    My son just posted the same thing! So 3 USAs seemed to win, what about all the others?

  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    fitalass said:

    If the release of the Chilcott report in imminent, then the timing couldn't be worse for both Blair or the current Labour party.

    The Mole in The First Post - Is Blair mad – or just defending himself ahead of Chilcot report?


    Er why will it be bad for the Labour party ? More Labour MPs voted against the war than did the Tories, who trooped en masse to vote for it.

    Most of the public do not think Blair as Labour. I certainly don't. I rejoined the Party after the war criminal left office !
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited June 2014
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    OT: It is Gove wot did it !
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    It was a Labour Prime Minister and a Labour Government that took us into the Iraq war, and trying to dismiss Blair as a Labour PM or that Labour Government majority back then is pathetic! Iraq is just as much a legacy of the last Labour Government as the dire economic legacy they left the country.
    surbiton said:

    fitalass said:

    If the release of the Chilcott report in imminent, then the timing couldn't be worse for both Blair or the current Labour party.

    The Mole in The First Post - Is Blair mad – or just defending himself ahead of Chilcot report?


    Er why will it be bad for the Labour party ? More Labour MPs voted against the war than did the Tories, who trooped en masse to vote for it.

    Most of the public do not think Blair as Labour. I certainly don't. I rejoined the Party after the war criminal left office !
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    Said it at the time on this site, and I will say it again. There was an unspoken rule that what ever spin a UK Government puts on its policies or record, the one thing you don't ever do is mislead the country or the HoC's when it comes to the reason for taking the nation to war. Its not expenses etc which destroyed the voters trust in our politicians, its the last Labour Governments behaviour over Iraq. And the Conservatives were on the Opposition benches, and very much reliant on the Government to be honest with them as was the rest of the country at the time!

    But more important than that, it wasn't the Conservatives on the Opposition benches who took the decisions that led to catastrophic mistakes being made in the first days and weeks in Iraq after the invasion. That responsibility lies solely with Bush in the White House, and Blair and his collective Labour Government Cabinet in No10. Bush senior and John Major didn't make the same mistakes back in the first Iraq war. Both Afghanistan and Iraq might be in a different place right now if Bush and Blair had made the right decisions when they initially went into both these countries. But they didn't, and we are where we are now because of that, and a lot of British soldiers died long after each of these interventions as a result.
    oldnat said:

    fitalass said:

    If the release of the Chilcott report in imminent, then the timing couldn't be worse for both Blair or the current Labour party.

    The Mole in The First Post - Is Blair mad – or just defending himself ahead of Chilcot report?

    Thanks for the link. I'm not sure that the Chilcot report will be good for the Tories who voted for the Iraq war either.
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    BobaFett said:

    Hare kare by Portugal - how professional footballers come to headbutt an opponent on the field of play is beyond me.

    I assume you mean "hara kiri" (/pedant)

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