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  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Hand was off the bat - batsman shouldn't have walked.
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789
    Just lost signal -- heard of wicket nine on PB
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Apparently that shouldn't have been out because his hand wasn't holding the bat

    If he hadn't walked off and waited for the decision it would have been given not out.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    No doubt about it televised cricket belongs on the BBC.What on earth is the point of having an Establishment if it does not represent the supremacy of cricket to all other sports in the nation's TV broadcasts?I refuse to have Murdoch in the house.

    Where do you negotiate with Rupe?

    In the WC at the bottom of the garden?

  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    REVIEW !
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Review..........
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,959
    I think he hit that.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Goal line review.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,986
    The tension, the drama, the excitement, oh wait, Ascot starts tomorrow !!
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Still one ball left.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    TGOHF said:

    Still one ball left.

    A minimum of one ball.

    {This is PB].

  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Great test match.

    Justice done.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Good finish though. Shove your soccerball up your Oezil.
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789
    Aaaargh what's going on???
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited June 2014
    "You never lose money by laying a Test Match draw".

    PB Golden Rule tarnished.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Maybe England lost the match so that Ballance could score a century. Interesting debating point.
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789
    Close but no cigar
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789
    AndyJS said:

    Maybe England lost the match so that Ballance could score a century. Interesting debating point.

    They didn't lose!

  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Isn't it about time the Portuguese devalued?

    Or is this not allowed?
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    England would likely have won but for their abysmal over rate in the SL first innings where they lost several overs.
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    YES vote percentage rising in the Line betting markets, now at:

    43.5% at Paddy Power
    44% at Ladbrokes

    10/11 both above and below the line.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    BobaFett said:

    AndyJS said:

    Maybe England lost the match so that Ballance could score a century. Interesting debating point.

    They didn't lose!

    You know what I mean. That was shorthand for losing the opportunity to win the match.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,514
    AveryLP said:

    Isn't it about time the Portuguese devalued?

    Or is this not allowed?

    They could devalue by 90% and then call the new currency the Osborne.

    22.7 Gordons = 1 Osborne
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Well I've lost all my bets today. But there's always Iran/Nigeria and USA/Ghana!
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    IndyRef Turnout

    Over 70% tightens to 4/6 at William Hill (from 8/11).

    The Ladbrokes Line is now at 78% Turnout -> 5/6 both above and below that line.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    YES vote percentage rising...

    Like a manhole cover in a flash flood.

    The promise of an effluent future.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    AveryLP said:

    Isn't it about time the Portuguese devalued?

    Or is this not allowed?

    They could devalue by 90% and then call the new currency the Osborne.

    22.7 Gordons = 1 Osborne
    Gordons?

    You are on the gin again, Mr. Brooke!

  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2014
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    Paddy Power

    Conservatives to poll more votes and win more seats than Labour 11/10
    Labour to poll more votes and win more seats than Conservatives 11/8
    Labour to poll fewer votes and win more seats than Conservatives 11/4
    Conservatives to poll fewer votes and win more seats than Labour 66/1
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    AndyJS said:

    Well I've lost all my bets today. But there's always Iran/Nigeria and USA/Ghana!

    Cover your losses by laying everything left on Obama to make a decision over Iraq.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    AveryLP said:

    AndyJS said:

    Well I've lost all my bets today. But there's always Iran/Nigeria and USA/Ghana!

    Cover your losses by laying everything left on Obama to make a decision over Iraq.
    LOL. I wish I could bet on Obama getting his Nobel Prize removed.
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    AveryLP said:

    YES vote percentage rising...

    Like a manhole cover in a flash flood.

    The promise of an effluent future.
    So, now you are likening Yes voters with effluent. Nice. CyberBritNats turn the stomach.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    AndyJS said:

    Well I've lost all my bets today. But there's always Iran/Nigeria and USA/Ghana!

    Placing your money in any venture involving Nigeria is an interesting notion .... or "brave" as civil servants are want to advise their minsters at times.

  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    AndyJS said:

    AveryLP said:

    AndyJS said:

    Well I've lost all my bets today. But there's always Iran/Nigeria and USA/Ghana!

    Cover your losses by laying everything left on Obama to make a decision over Iraq.
    LOL. I wish I could bet on Obama getting his Nobel Prize removed.
    Obama is all epideictic rhetoric, as LIAMT would say.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,514
    SeanT said:

    ToryJim said:

    dr_spyn said:

    2-0 Germany.

    Frau Merkel looked pleased
    Europe's most robust economy, Cameron bitch-slapped and 2-0 up against 10 man Portugal, why shouldn't she be looking pleased ?
    Germany Europe's most robust economy?

    Hmm. It's the biggest, by sheer size of population, but there are others which are considerably richer per head (Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, Austria) and others with lower unemployment, better growth, &c.

    Germany is best described as the "least damaged of Europe's large economies in the Great Recession", a rather different thing.



    nah they've been the worlds No1 or No2 exporter for the last decade, slugging it out with China. Germany is well ahead on GDP having recovered lost production in about 3 years. We've just reached our 2008 peak.

    They are of course heavily assisted by the Euro keeping their currency artifically low, hence why they love Europe and all the medlands are pissed off since they pick up the bill for germany's cost advantage.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2014
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2014
    Germany are the only football team that are both excellent and non-exciting to watch. Watching them play is a bit like watching an experiment in football tactics.
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    Couple of new Birmingham markets at Shadsy's. Rock solid LAB seats, so one wonders why he bothers.

    Birmingham Hodge Hill (Lab Maj, Liam Byrne = 10,302)

    Lab 1/100
    UKIP 25/1
    LD 66/1
    100 bar

    Birmingham Perry Barr (Lab Maj, Khalid Mahmood = 11,908)

    Lab 1/100
    Con 25/1
    UKIP 50/1
    LD 50/1
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,514
    AndyJS said:

    Germany are the only football team that are both excellent and non-exciting to watch. Watching them play is a bit like watching an experiment in football tactics.

    could we send them Rooney to liven things up ?
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    AndyJS said:
    Anyone backing No at 1.26 needs their head felt.

  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2014

    AndyJS said:
    Anyone backing No at 1.26 needs their head felt.

    Does that include the person who backed No with £400,000? I can't remember what the exact odds were in his case.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    So where is this ICM poll we are expecting?
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789
    AndyJS said:

    Well I've lost all my bets today. But there's always Iran/Nigeria and USA/Ghana!

    Me too. Bad day at the office ;-)

    I think a period of betting abstention from me would be welcome.
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789
    ToryJim said:

    So where is this ICM poll we are expecting?

    Not sure it's a VI poll - there's something up on the Grauniad about attitudes to the economy/recovery etc. it's quite boring
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Difficult to get to grips with the fact that the Iraqi armed forces have basically been taken over by Iran's Revolutionary Guards. But that looks like the current situation.
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    So typical of the perpetual liar Blair to try and blame his own stupidity on someone else.

    Its about time Chilcott told us the real facts.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Message to SeanT – lots of people who've just read Millions Of Women Are Waiting To Meet You on Amazon reviews are offering to buy you a drink. Just in case you didn't know.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    @LBC: On Ed Miliband, Harriet Harman tells @IainDale that: 'he was right to pose with the Sun and right to apologise for it afterwards'.

    Erm
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668
    Looks like I jumped the gun on WSJ. A bit embarrassing!
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    SeanT said:

    ToryJim said:

    @LBC: On Ed Miliband, Harriet Harman tells @IainDale that: 'he was right to pose with the Sun and right to apologise for it afterwards'.

    Erm

    Ed Miliband takes awkwardness to a new level of strato-awkwardness, where the toe-curling angels play harps of cringeworthiness.
    But this is Hattie desperately trying to square a circle
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2014
    Jon Snow and Ann Leslie discussing geriatric sex on Channel 4 News, with specific reference to chlamydia and gonorrhea.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @AndyJS

    Did they read SeanT's previous post then?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Get a room!
    AndyJS said:

    Jon Snow and Ann Leslie discussing geriatric sex on Channel 4 News, with specific reference to chlamydia and gonorrhea.

  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    Oh dear Lord can't imagine this being a success for LBC

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jun/16/harriet-harman-lbc-radio-phone-in
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 4,592
    AndyJS said:
    Woo-hoo! I've got a £1 on Nigeria with Broke Lads at 6/5.
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    AndyJS said:

    AndyJS said:
    Anyone backing No at 1.26 needs their head felt.

    Does that include the person who backed No with £400,000? I can't remember what the exact odds were in his case.
    1/4 (Hills)

    Yes.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    AndyJS said:
    Woo-hoo! I've got a £1 on Nigeria with Broke Lads at 6/5.
    Congrats.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2014
    "sean thomas knox @thomasknox · 23h

    Think this is the first World Cup where I don't give a fuck about the fact I don't give a fuck whether England win."


    https://twitter.com/thomasknox
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    @ALP

    Know your enemy...
    AveryLP said:

    199-7 and everyone is watching the Germans beat up the Portuguese.

    What happened to the Tebbit test?

  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    That's a very disappointing link. I was hoping that the High Pay Centre was a club I could join with refreshingly excessive subscription fee.

    Imagine my disappointment when I clicked on your link and found a socialist whinge-fest. Don't do this again, please.

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    edited June 2014
    SeanT said:


    I still get the odd email from guys who say "Thanks for changing my life and giving me the guts to go out there", etc

    Probably the nicest fanmail I get. OK, it's practically the only fanmail I get. But still nice.

    You really want fanmail that says "Thanks for changing my life and giving me the guts to go out there blood-eagling...."?
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Russia vs. the Ukraine: gas match

    Gazprom this morning turned off the supply of gas on credit to Ukraine. It followed the break-down of tripartite discussions including the EU over the payment of $1.95 bn of outstanding debt due for payment to Russia by 10.00 Moscow time.

    As ITAR-TASS put it

    Russian state energy giant Gazprom on Monday switched to prepayment mode in gas supplies to Ukraine’s state oil and gas company Naftogaz because Ukraine failed to pay part of its gas debt by the deadline of 10:00 Moscow time (06:00 GMT) Monday.

    The situation is not as critical as might appear due to the Ukraine stockpiling Russian gas supplies in underground bunkers over the past few months. It is thought the emergency stocks will cover the Ukraine's needs until December 2014.

    Again from ITAR-TASS:

    Ukraine had pumped astronomic amounts of gas to its own underground gas storage facilities. Out of more than 12.5 billion cubic meters of gas in Ukraine’s underground gas storage facilities (UGSF), 11.5 billion is unpaid Russian gas. [Alexei] Miller [CEO of Gazprom] also said that in order to get through the winter season comfortably, Ukraine must have more than 18 billion cubic meters of gas in its UGSFs.

    Between now and the onset of winter, the Ukraine is expected to try to negotiate 'reverse-flow' deals with EU countries supplied by Russia through the pipelines and compressor stations located on Ukraine's territory. Alive to this being a means by which the Ukraine could continue to default on gas payments to Russia, Gazprom has warned its EU customers of risks to supply through the Ukraine and switched volume to its Nord-Stream infrastructure which bypasses the Ukraine.

    So what is the dispute about? Just debt repayment? No, it is more about the costs of supply. The Ukraine wants gas supplied at the same price it is sold to Belarus and Kazakhstan. As Miller put it:

    The whole logic of negotiations, which the Ukrainian side tried to impose, was to get a super-low price at the level Russia sells gas to the countries of the Customs Union (of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan), he said.

    So Russia wants the Ukraine to pay a premium on its energy supplies for flirting with the EU and also expects the EU to pick up the Ukraine's tab in order to guarantee continuity of supply to Gazprom's customers west of the Ukraine.

    Will the EU allow this? Well, yes:

    Ukraine can use the European Union’s 1.6 billion-euro aid to repay its gas debts for Russian natural gas supplies, European Commission spokeswoman Pia Ahrenkilde Hansen said on Monday.

    [to be continued...]
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited June 2014
    Russia vs. the Ukraine: second half

    Does Russian need the money? Well, no, according to ITAR-TASS:

    Russia’s foreign debt (including the former Soviet Union’s obligations assumed by Russia) [...] stood at $55.79 billion as of January 1, 2014 and at $54.875 billion as of May 1, thus decreasing by 1.8% in the first five months of the year and by 0.1% in May..

    And what is more Russia was willing to continue to finance the Ukraine's continued supply of energy according to Alexander Novak, Russian Energy Minister:

    “We were ready to discuss the economic situation in Ukraine and were ready to put forward specific options of financial support,” Novak said.

    Some sanctions being imposed on Russia by the EU and US here. It very much looks as if Russia is bidding up the cost to the EU of gaining the Ukraine's political allegiance.

    All well and good you might say, but it us, the taxpayers, who will be paying the premium.

    Any comment, Socrates?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046
    edited June 2014
    GeoffM said:

    That's a very disappointing link. I was hoping that the High Pay Centre was a club I could join with refreshingly excessive subscription fee.

    Imagine my disappointment when I clicked on your link and found a socialist whinge-fest. Don't do this again, please.

    Socialists always consider the banker in South Kensington on a stonking great salary when they talk about pay inequality.

    They don't seem half as vexed by the fact that the UK (EDIT) average wage (£27,000) is over 60x the benchmark $2/day that so much of the world lives on and that, if they have a wage (or if they don't for that matter), they are unimaginably rich compared with such people.
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    TOPPING said:

    GeoffM said:

    That's a very disappointing link. I was hoping that the High Pay Centre was a club I could join with refreshingly excessive subscription fee.

    Imagine my disappointment when I clicked on your link and found a socialist whinge-fest. Don't do this again, please.

    Socialists always consider the banker in South Kensington on a stonking great salary when they talk about pay inequality.

    They don't seem half as vexed by the fact that the UK minimum wage (£27,000) is over 60x the benchmark $2/day that so much of the world lives on and that, if they have a wage (or if they don't for that matter), they are unimaginably rich compared with such people.
    The UK minimum wage is not £27,000
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046
    corporeal said:

    TOPPING said:

    GeoffM said:

    That's a very disappointing link. I was hoping that the High Pay Centre was a club I could join with refreshingly excessive subscription fee.

    Imagine my disappointment when I clicked on your link and found a socialist whinge-fest. Don't do this again, please.

    Socialists always consider the banker in South Kensington on a stonking great salary when they talk about pay inequality.

    They don't seem half as vexed by the fact that the UK minimum wage (£27,000) is over 60x the benchmark $2/day that so much of the world lives on and that, if they have a wage (or if they don't for that matter), they are unimaginably rich compared with such people.
    The UK minimum wage is not £27,000
    d'oh - average. Edited in original post.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @TOPPING
    Get the government to build mud huts so workers can afford to work for $2 a day, and have a roof over their heads?
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited June 2014
    AndyJS said:

    "sean thomas knox @thomasknox · 23h

    Think this is the first World Cup where I don't give a fuck about the fact I don't give a fuck whether England win."


    https://twitter.com/thomasknox

    If Sean were telling twitter truth the tweet would have read:

    "Think this is the first World Cup where I cared more about fucking around than England fucking up."

    Age slowly emasculates the best of us.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,337
    http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jun/16/scotland-police-investigate-online-abuse-jk-rowling

    Should have guessed it was Lord Foukes of Cumnock (he of comprehensive schools in his time, who'd have guessed?) who reported those cybernats - a name he reputedly himself invented.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046
    edited June 2014
    Smarmeron said:

    @TOPPING
    Get the government to build mud huts so workers can afford to work for $2 a day, and have a roof over their heads?

    Thing is, to, um, flesh out my comment, that many on the left (I appreciate you are, what was it, a "civilised anarchist"?) want to attack the symbol of the society in which they live which they believe represents a gross unfairness.

    But compared with so many in the LDCs everyone here is unimaginably wealthy. And it seems that those who complain about the pay inequality often believe that their own level of pay is about right and, as the cliche has it, those who earn far more, do so unfairly.

    But what would they have those "rich" do that they are not doing for those on $2/day?
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    corporeal said:

    TOPPING said:

    GeoffM said:

    That's a very disappointing link. I was hoping that the High Pay Centre was a club I could join with refreshingly excessive subscription fee.

    Imagine my disappointment when I clicked on your link and found a socialist whinge-fest. Don't do this again, please.

    Socialists always consider the banker in South Kensington on a stonking great salary when they talk about pay inequality.

    They don't seem half as vexed by the fact that the UK minimum wage (£27,000) is over 60x the benchmark $2/day that so much of the world lives on and that, if they have a wage (or if they don't for that matter), they are unimaginably rich compared with such people.
    The UK minimum wage is not £27,000
    Are you suggesting it might be lower?

    Oh dear!

  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @TOPPING

    They could stop exploiting them for a start? Remember that the rich are only rich until those below decide otherwise.
    ;-)
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046
    Smarmeron said:

    @TOPPING

    They could stop exploiting them for a start? Remember that the rich are only rich until those below decide otherwise.
    ;-)

    Is that the first line in the forthcoming UKIP manifesto?

    :)
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046
    Meanwhile it would be quite funny if a group of American cheerleaders turned up at the current world cup match and started cheering for Iran.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @TOPPING

    I am not sure, it will be interesting when it does come out.
    I believe Farage said it is due soon, and it will probably be the first manifesto of this coming election.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited June 2014
    Smarmeron said:

    @TOPPING

    They could stop exploiting them for a start? Remember that the rich are only rich until those below decide otherwise.
    ;-)

    Roman Abramovitch is reported to have purchased his own personally designed submarine. He has fitted it out with gold taps, jacuzzi baths and double beds.

    The ex-communist is so confident of avoiding the second revolution that he has offered $25 million to any outsider who can locate it.

    Get diving, Smarmy.

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    OK, season finale of Game of Thrones. All politics can stop for 70 minutes....
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578

    OK, season finale of Game of Thrones. All politics can stop for 70 minutes....

    Real world politics at any rate.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @AveryLP
    He may need it, the Russian people are starting to think unbridled capitalism is not quite what they imagined it would be, and are becoming distinctly anti Western in their outlook.
    You may need to show them your yellow boxes at this rate?
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    TOPPING said:

    GeoffM said:

    That's a very disappointing link. I was hoping that the High Pay Centre was a club I could join with refreshingly excessive subscription fee.

    Imagine my disappointment when I clicked on your link and found a socialist whinge-fest. Don't do this again, please.

    Socialists always consider the banker in South Kensington on a stonking great salary when they talk about pay inequality.

    They don't seem half as vexed by the fact that the UK (EDIT) average wage (£27,000) is over 60x the benchmark $2/day that so much of the world lives on and that, if they have a wage (or if they don't for that matter), they are unimaginably rich compared with such people.
    The oligarchs want everyone on $2/day and will buy as many members of the political class as they need to achieve it.
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    AveryLP said:

    corporeal said:

    TOPPING said:

    GeoffM said:

    That's a very disappointing link. I was hoping that the High Pay Centre was a club I could join with refreshingly excessive subscription fee.

    Imagine my disappointment when I clicked on your link and found a socialist whinge-fest. Don't do this again, please.

    Socialists always consider the banker in South Kensington on a stonking great salary when they talk about pay inequality.

    They don't seem half as vexed by the fact that the UK minimum wage (£27,000) is over 60x the benchmark $2/day that so much of the world lives on and that, if they have a wage (or if they don't for that matter), they are unimaginably rich compared with such people.
    The UK minimum wage is not £27,000
    Are you suggesting it might be lower?

    Oh dear!

    Oh dear yourself.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046
    MrJones said:

    TOPPING said:

    GeoffM said:

    That's a very disappointing link. I was hoping that the High Pay Centre was a club I could join with refreshingly excessive subscription fee.

    Imagine my disappointment when I clicked on your link and found a socialist whinge-fest. Don't do this again, please.

    Socialists always consider the banker in South Kensington on a stonking great salary when they talk about pay inequality.

    They don't seem half as vexed by the fact that the UK (EDIT) average wage (£27,000) is over 60x the benchmark $2/day that so much of the world lives on and that, if they have a wage (or if they don't for that matter), they are unimaginably rich compared with such people.
    The oligarchs want everyone on $2/day and will buy as many members of the political class as they need to achieve it.
    Putin's neutralisation of the oligarchs (by enriching them) has been one of his smartest moves. It has taken away at a stroke a powerful source of internal dissent.

    (Apologies if you were making some vital allegorical point concerning the UK.)
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578
    ToryJim said:

    @LBC: On Ed Miliband, Harriet Harman tells @IainDale that: 'he was right to pose with the Sun and right to apologise for it afterwards'.

    Erm

    That cannot possibly be genuine, can it? Dear gods. I'm sure they'll do an adequate or at least not disastrous job running the country in a year's time, but Labour really are not exuding much confidence in themselves.

  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @TOPPING

    Putin makes sure they don't use the money to wield political power, unless of course they agree with him.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Smarmeron said:

    @AveryLP
    He may need it, the Russian people are starting to think unbridled capitalism is not quite what they imagined it would be, and are becoming distinctly anti Western in their outlook.
    You may need to show them your yellow boxes at this rate?

    Nonsense, Smarmy.

    It has been said the USA is a nation which has moved from barbarism to decadence without encountering civilisation on the way.

    Russia is moving with ease from communism to global wealth without the need to call in aid an industrial revolution.

    More gas, vicar?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    edited June 2014
    Is Iran vs Nigeria the unofficial muslim world cup final ?
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    Pulpstar said:

    Is Iran vs Nigeria the unofficial muslim world cup final ?

    North Nigeria is muslim, south non-muslim, not sure who are the majority?
  • Andy_CookeAndy_Cooke Posts: 5,034
    On topic, I don't know if this has been covered in discussions over previous Ashcroft polls, but the high "other Others" score does seem rather chunky. It's not just that the traditional Others (not Con, Lab or LD) has jumped from 9% at the last election to 28% here, it's also that those who are neither "Big Three" voters or UKIP voters have gone from 6% to 13%.

    If we assume that SNP/Plaid aren't going to account for much more than 3-4% of the GB vote (due to the limited numbers of seats in which they stand), then that's about 10% to go to the Greens, BNP, English Democrats, Respect, TUSC ...

    The Greens aren't likely to stand in much more than half of the possible seats, I'd guess - so half (at least) of their vote share is going elsewhere or sitting on their hands. The same with a significant chunk of the others here.

    Where to? If it's close enough, even these numbers could be crucial.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,959
    I don't think we're getting the ICM tonight..

    ::Epic Sad Face::
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    Pulpstar said:

    Is Iran vs Nigeria the unofficial muslim world cup final ?

    Nah, Algeria are better than Iran.
  • Andy_CookeAndy_Cooke Posts: 5,034
    On a wider view, these low scores for all parties look to me simply that the public are supremely unimpressed by the range on offer. Are all of the Big 3 parties close to their tribal cores (well, the Yellows, for sure!)?
    Would that imply that the unimpressed masses are likely to be more fickle than normal in their allegiances? That the potential for shifting around is likely to be greater than we'd usually anticipate?
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    edited June 2014
    Smarmeron said:

    @TOPPING

    They could stop exploiting them for a start? Remember that the rich are only rich until those below decide otherwise.
    ;-)

    Does that include the super rich who are kicking inflated pigs bladders around Brazil this month, or are they a different kind of rich?

    Footballer £300k a week, good. Banker £300k a year, bad.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Pulpstar said:

    Is Iran vs Nigeria the unofficial muslim world cup final ?

    Which side is College supporting?

  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,376
    No sign of ICM then?

    Is The Guardian burying bad news? ;)
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @AveryLP

    Be careful what you say, or you may get a Putin polonium post through your letterbox (figuratively speaking).
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited June 2014

    Smarmeron said:

    @TOPPING

    They could stop exploiting them for a start? Remember that the rich are only rich until those below decide otherwise.
    ;-)

    Does that include the super rich who are kicking inflated pigs bladders around Brazil this month, or are they a different kind of rich?

    Footballer £300k a week, good. Banker £300k a year, bad.
    Look what OGH could buy if he were as rich as Rooney.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,959
    GIN1138 said:

    No sign of ICM then?

    Is The Guardian burying bad news? ;)

    Well the Guardian do have form for that
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,959
    Surely the unofficial Muslim world cup final will be when England play another Muslim Country?
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