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  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,873
    Before the new thread thanks @ydoethur for an interesting article.

    Smaller class sizes would be better for everyone, it might even encourage a pick up in the TFR!
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,799

    https://x.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/2039812602851623263

    BREAKING: Russia, China, and France are blocking an Arab-backed push at the UN Security Council to authorize military action against Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, per NYT.

    According to diplomats, the three veto powers oppose any resolution language that would permit the use of force.

    Know who your enemies are.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,820
    edited 6:32AM
    PaulM said:

    Nigelb said:

    Not their job to say what's constitutional.

    The Justice Department said that a federal law enacted in the wake of the Watergate scandal that requires the president to preserve certain documents and turn them over to the National Archives at the end of his administration is unconstitutional.
    https://x.com/CBSNews/status/2039779903147487633

    Since the Justice Department has to follow the constitution, the OLC can be asked to give an advisory opinion on whether a particular law is constitutional and should be followed. The US government has to operate day to day, it can't be in limbo waiting for someone to bring a lawsuit and it to work its way through the system to the US Supreme Court. Particularly since in the Archives case the government itself would be the only ones with standing to challenge it.
    It can, but this is clearly bullshit.
    The government isn't "in limbo" because it can't destroy documents which it legally has to preserve.

    Don't be absurd.

    I note you didn't mention this.
    ..The Presidential Records Act has no enforcement mechanism, but Mr. Trump repeatedly invoked the law after he was indicted in 2023 on charges stemming from his alleged mishandling of sensitive government records after the end of his first term in January 2021. ..
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,496
    Sandpit said:

    https://x.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/2039812602851623263

    BREAKING: Russia, China, and France are blocking an Arab-backed push at the UN Security Council to authorize military action against Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, per NYT.

    According to diplomats, the three veto powers oppose any resolution language that would permit the use of force.

    Know who your enemies are.
    Yet it’s being reported France is willing to help open the strait !

    https://x.com/osint613/status/2039952505057030430?s=61
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,747
    rcs1000 said:

    This is the best Downfall parody I've seen in a long while

    https://substack.com/@irishpoliticsnewsletter/note/c-236251777?r=2a9ngu

    Trump doesn’t have that much self awareness.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,847
    With the possible exception of Laura Trott and Victoria Atkins he really is the biggest Clown in the Tory Village.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 17,015
    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,820
    Hegseth is removing 2 additional Army generals tonight: Gen. David Hodne, head of Transformation and Training Command, and Maj. Gen. William Green Jr., head of the chaplain corps -Washington Post
    https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2039853346555678725

    The man is a stupid drunk.
    But he's also dangerous.

  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,747
    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 17,015
    And now it’s a breathless British space scientist getting excited that “we” are going to the moon again.

    It’s telling. “We” are not going to the moon, the Americans are. I’d love to give the benefit of the doubt and conclude she means humans, but let’s be honest, if and when China is flying people to the moon she won’t be talking about “we”.

    I don’t think a lot of Brits have yet woken up to the reality the USA is no longer a fraternal ally.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,820
    Taz said:

    Sandpit said:

    https://x.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/2039812602851623263

    BREAKING: Russia, China, and France are blocking an Arab-backed push at the UN Security Council to authorize military action against Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, per NYT.

    According to diplomats, the three veto powers oppose any resolution language that would permit the use of force.

    Know who your enemies are.
    Yet it’s being reported France is willing to help open the strait !

    https://x.com/osint613/status/2039952505057030430?s=61
    It is, but it doesn't want to go to war with Iran.

    Seems reasonable to me.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,799
    Taz said:

    Sandpit said:

    https://x.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/2039812602851623263

    BREAKING: Russia, China, and France are blocking an Arab-backed push at the UN Security Council to authorize military action against Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, per NYT.

    According to diplomats, the three veto powers oppose any resolution language that would permit the use of force.

    Know who your enemies are.
    Yet it’s being reported France is willing to help open the strait !

    https://x.com/osint613/status/2039952505057030430?s=61
    I shall believe anyone is going to help open the Strait, when their men and materiel turn up at least somewhere close.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,109
    MelonB said:

    And now it’s a breathless British space scientist getting excited that “we” are going to the moon again.

    It’s telling. “We” are not going to the moon, the Americans are. I’d love to give the benefit of the doubt and conclude she means humans, but let’s be honest, if and when China is flying people to the moon she won’t be talking about “we”.

    I don’t think a lot of Brits have yet woken up to the reality the USA is no longer a fraternal ally.

    The European Space Agency made some components for the mission and at least one of the project managers is a Brit
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,109
    edited 7:02AM

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Good morning

    It is simply inexplicable that despite everything about Farage and Reform they lead the polls and are winning locals

    The greens are also surprising on the upside, and apart from SNP and Plaid all the other parties are really suffering and that includes the Lib Dems

    This talks to the utter disillusionment with politics and the desire to vote for NOA

    Politics is witnessing an earthquake and frankly being the government of the day is a very unhappy place and about to become worse with decisions on spending, borrowing, and taxing being the nightmare
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,496
    This is nuts

    ‘ JUST IN: You do not fire your Army Chief of Staff in the middle of a war for no reason. You fire him because of what comes next.

    Pete Hegseth called General Randy George on April 2 and told him to retire immediately. The Pentagon confirmed it within hours. No reason was given. Not publicly. Not privately. A senior Army official told Fox News that Hegseth offered George nothing: no misconduct, no operational failure, no policy disagreement on the record. Just a phone call and a career ending in the middle of the most significant American combat operation in two decades.

    George is the 24th general or admiral Hegseth has removed. But he is not the 24th. He is the one that matters. The Army Chief of Staff. The man whose signature sits between a president’s intent and the order that sends soldiers across a beach or into a tunnel complex. The 82nd Airborne is deploying right now. Marines from the 31st MEU are staged on the USS Tripoli. JSOC operators are at forward bases in Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE. Kharg Island, 90 percent of Iranian oil exports, sits 16 kilometres off a coast that someone will have to decide whether to approach. And the four-star general whose job it was to advise whether that approach should happen was removed 48 hours after Trump told the nation the war would continue for two to three more weeks’


    https://x.com/shanaka86/status/2039864630701662461?s=61
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,799
    edited 7:07AM
    MelonB said:

    And now it’s a breathless British space scientist getting excited that “we” are going to the moon again.

    It’s telling. “We” are not going to the moon, the Americans are. I’d love to give the benefit of the doubt and conclude she means humans, but let’s be honest, if and when China is flying people to the moon she won’t be talking about “we”.

    I don’t think a lot of Brits have yet woken up to the reality the USA is no longer a fraternal ally.

    It’s much more of an international project than the Americans might want you to believe from their coverage.

    A number of Western countries and companies have been involved in the design and construction of SLS / Artemis, including at least ESA and BAe from the UK.
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,496
    Sandpit said:

    Taz said:

    Sandpit said:

    https://x.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/2039812602851623263

    BREAKING: Russia, China, and France are blocking an Arab-backed push at the UN Security Council to authorize military action against Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, per NYT.

    According to diplomats, the three veto powers oppose any resolution language that would permit the use of force.

    Know who your enemies are.
    Yet it’s being reported France is willing to help open the strait !

    https://x.com/osint613/status/2039952505057030430?s=61
    I shall believe anyone is going to help open the Strait, when their men and materiel turn up at least somewhere close.
    I share that view.

    Until there is firm action it’s all piss and wind.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 17,015
    Scott_xP said:

    MelonB said:

    And now it’s a breathless British space scientist getting excited that “we” are going to the moon again.

    It’s telling. “We” are not going to the moon, the Americans are. I’d love to give the benefit of the doubt and conclude she means humans, but let’s be honest, if and when China is flying people to the moon she won’t be talking about “we”.

    I don’t think a lot of Brits have yet woken up to the reality the USA is no longer a fraternal ally.

    The European Space Agency made some components for the mission and at least one of the project managers is a Brit
    Here’s Trump’s commentary on truth social:

    We are WINNING, in Space, on Earth, and everywhere in between — Economically, Militarily, and now, BEYOND THE STARS. Nobody comes close! America doesn’t just compete, we DOMINATE, and the whole World is watching. God bless our incredible Astronauts, God bless NASA, and God bless the Greatest Nation ever to exist, the United States of America!

    Not really giving one small step for mankind vibes.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,650
    edited 7:13AM

    rcs1000 said:

    This is the best Downfall parody I've seen in a long while

    https://substack.com/@irishpoliticsnewsletter/note/c-236251777?r=2a9ngu

    Trump doesn’t have that much any self awareness.
    'Corrected that for you'.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,451
    Taz said:

    This is nuts

    ‘ JUST IN: You do not fire your Army Chief of Staff in the middle of a war for no reason. You fire him because of what comes next.

    Pete Hegseth called General Randy George on April 2 and told him to retire immediately. The Pentagon confirmed it within hours. No reason was given. Not publicly. Not privately. A senior Army official told Fox News that Hegseth offered George nothing: no misconduct, no operational failure, no policy disagreement on the record. Just a phone call and a career ending in the middle of the most significant American combat operation in two decades.

    George is the 24th general or admiral Hegseth has removed. But he is not the 24th. He is the one that matters. The Army Chief of Staff. The man whose signature sits between a president’s intent and the order that sends soldiers across a beach or into a tunnel complex. The 82nd Airborne is deploying right now. Marines from the 31st MEU are staged on the USS Tripoli. JSOC operators are at forward bases in Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE. Kharg Island, 90 percent of Iranian oil exports, sits 16 kilometres off a coast that someone will have to decide whether to approach. And the four-star general whose job it was to advise whether that approach should happen was removed 48 hours after Trump told the nation the war would continue for two to three more weeks’


    https://x.com/shanaka86/status/2039864630701662461?s=61

    I think the last time there was an enforced change of Chief in an operation this significant was when Truman fired MacArthur in 1951.

    This was because MacArthur had not only been trying to ignore Truman's orders but had threatened to invade China and was demanding, publicly, that Truman use nukes.

    I haven't seen anything along those lines from George.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,650
    Never mind the end of Western Civilisation, somebody need to start campaigning for Britain to leave the EU:

    "Marmalade has long been a quintessential British preserve, with some recipes handed down between multiple generations.
    But jars of the fruity spread could look a little different on shop shelves under the UK government's planned EU food deal, it has emerged."


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0e53x475qjo

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,451

    Never mind the end of Western Civilisation, somebody need to start campaigning for Britain to leave the EU:

    "Marmalade has long been a quintessential British preserve, with some recipes handed down between multiple generations.
    But jars of the fruity spread could look a little different on shop shelves under the UK government's planned EU food deal, it has emerged."


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0e53x475qjo

    I was so getting vibes of Yes Minister and the sausage crisis from that one.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,650

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Good morning

    It is simply inexplicable that despite everything about Farage and Reform they lead the polls and are winning locals

    The greens are also surprising on the upside, and apart from SNP and Plaid all the other parties are really suffering and that includes the Lib Dems

    This talks to the utter disillusionment with politics and the desire to vote for NOA

    Politics is witnessing an earthquake and frankly being the government of the day is a very unhappy place and about to become worse with decisions on spending, borrowing, and taxing being the nightmare
    Can't disagree with any of that Big_G. All very depressing.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,650
    edited 7:19AM
    ydoethur said:

    Never mind the end of Western Civilisation, somebody need to start campaigning for Britain to leave the EU:

    "Marmalade has long been a quintessential British preserve, with some recipes handed down between multiple generations.
    But jars of the fruity spread could look a little different on shop shelves under the UK government's planned EU food deal, it has emerged."


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0e53x475qjo

    I was so getting vibes of Yes Minister and the sausage crisis from that one.
    Fortunately Mrs P. makes all our citrus and sugar fruity spreads.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 17,015
    ydoethur said:

    Never mind the end of Western Civilisation, somebody need to start campaigning for Britain to leave the EU:

    "Marmalade has long been a quintessential British preserve, with some recipes handed down between multiple generations.
    But jars of the fruity spread could look a little different on shop shelves under the UK government's planned EU food deal, it has emerged."


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0e53x475qjo

    I was so getting vibes of Yes Minister and the sausage crisis from that one.
    It’s a fascinating little insight into how EU product regulation works.

    Britain as a member refused to allow the term marmalade to be used for anything but citrus. Other countries wanted the meaning broadened. But we got our way. Then we left, so the rules got relaxed.

    Who said we never had any influence during our membership? We got to decide naming conventions for fruity spreads!
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,747
    MelonB said:

    And now it’s a breathless British space scientist getting excited that “we” are going to the moon again.

    It’s telling. “We” are not going to the moon, the Americans are. I’d love to give the benefit of the doubt and conclude she means humans, but let’s be honest, if and when China is flying people to the moon she won’t be talking about “we”.

    I don’t think a lot of Brits have yet woken up to the reality the USA is no longer a fraternal ally.

    One of the astronauts is Canadian.
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,496
    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    This is nuts

    ‘ JUST IN: You do not fire your Army Chief of Staff in the middle of a war for no reason. You fire him because of what comes next.

    Pete Hegseth called General Randy George on April 2 and told him to retire immediately. The Pentagon confirmed it within hours. No reason was given. Not publicly. Not privately. A senior Army official told Fox News that Hegseth offered George nothing: no misconduct, no operational failure, no policy disagreement on the record. Just a phone call and a career ending in the middle of the most significant American combat operation in two decades.

    George is the 24th general or admiral Hegseth has removed. But he is not the 24th. He is the one that matters. The Army Chief of Staff. The man whose signature sits between a president’s intent and the order that sends soldiers across a beach or into a tunnel complex. The 82nd Airborne is deploying right now. Marines from the 31st MEU are staged on the USS Tripoli. JSOC operators are at forward bases in Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE. Kharg Island, 90 percent of Iranian oil exports, sits 16 kilometres off a coast that someone will have to decide whether to approach. And the four-star general whose job it was to advise whether that approach should happen was removed 48 hours after Trump told the nation the war would continue for two to three more weeks’


    https://x.com/shanaka86/status/2039864630701662461?s=61

    I think the last time there was an enforced change of Chief in an operation this significant was when Truman fired MacArthur in 1951.

    This was because MacArthur had not only been trying to ignore Truman's orders but had threatened to invade China and was demanding, publicly, that Truman use nukes.

    I haven't seen anything along those lines from George.
    Bit of background from the NY Times.

    https://x.com/tripgabriel/status/2039854432112738700?s=61
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,847
    Sandpit said:

    MelonB said:

    And now it’s a breathless British space scientist getting excited that “we” are going to the moon again.

    It’s telling. “We” are not going to the moon, the Americans are. I’d love to give the benefit of the doubt and conclude she means humans, but let’s be honest, if and when China is flying people to the moon she won’t be talking about “we”.

    I don’t think a lot of Brits have yet woken up to the reality the USA is no longer a fraternal ally.

    It’s much more of an international project than the Americans might want you to believe from their coverage.

    A number of Western countries and companies have been involved in the design and construction of SLS / Artemis, including at least ESA and BAe from the UK.
    Maybe all those European Component companies should withdraw support until MAGA is dead.

  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,799

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Good morning

    It is simply inexplicable that despite everything about Farage and Reform they lead the polls and are winning locals

    The greens are also surprising on the upside, and apart from SNP and Plaid all the other parties are really suffering and that includes the Lib Dems

    This talks to the utter disillusionment with politics and the desire to vote for NOA

    Politics is witnessing an earthquake and frankly being the government of the day is a very unhappy place and about to become worse with decisions on spending, borrowing, and taxing being the nightmare
    People are becoming disillusioned with politics, or should I say disillusioned with the politicians, who appear unable to make difficult decisions and to articulate anything unpopular to the public.

    The current lot appear to be masters of announcing an unpopular policy, running with it for weeks, and then reversing course after too much media/backbencher pressure, therefore upsetting both those in favour of, and those against, the actual policy.

    It’s not a surprise that people are turning to NOTA parties.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,847

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Meanwhile in Dimsville, the Tories continue to ape Reform aping MAGA. Spending countless time attacking Reform for aping the Tories aping MAGA.

    A fight to the death on the Right of British politics that is a truly enedifying sight for any One Nation traditional Tory.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,817
    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    This is nuts

    ‘ JUST IN: You do not fire your Army Chief of Staff in the middle of a war for no reason. You fire him because of what comes next.

    Pete Hegseth called General Randy George on April 2 and told him to retire immediately. The Pentagon confirmed it within hours. No reason was given. Not publicly. Not privately. A senior Army official told Fox News that Hegseth offered George nothing: no misconduct, no operational failure, no policy disagreement on the record. Just a phone call and a career ending in the middle of the most significant American combat operation in two decades.

    George is the 24th general or admiral Hegseth has removed. But he is not the 24th. He is the one that matters. The Army Chief of Staff. The man whose signature sits between a president’s intent and the order that sends soldiers across a beach or into a tunnel complex. The 82nd Airborne is deploying right now. Marines from the 31st MEU are staged on the USS Tripoli. JSOC operators are at forward bases in Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE. Kharg Island, 90 percent of Iranian oil exports, sits 16 kilometres off a coast that someone will have to decide whether to approach. And the four-star general whose job it was to advise whether that approach should happen was removed 48 hours after Trump told the nation the war would continue for two to three more weeks’


    https://x.com/shanaka86/status/2039864630701662461?s=61

    I think the last time there was an enforced change of Chief in an operation this significant was when Truman fired MacArthur in 1951.

    This was because MacArthur had not only been trying to ignore Truman's orders but had threatened to invade China and was demanding, publicly, that Truman use nukes.

    I haven't seen anything along those lines from George.
    Bit of background from the NY Times.

    https://x.com/tripgabriel/status/2039854432112738700?s=61
    Interesting article. Was it the cancellation of defence contractors' orders that was the trigger?

    There seems to be a pivot by Trump from religion (evangelicals) to war (and defence contractors' bottom line). An indication that Trump no longer believes he can go for a third term but wants to collect as many trophies and cash in the next 3 years (or 6 months depending on the mid terms)
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 1,325
    ydoethur said:

    Never mind the end of Western Civilisation, somebody need to start campaigning for Britain to leave the EU:

    "Marmalade has long been a quintessential British preserve, with some recipes handed down between multiple generations.
    But jars of the fruity spread could look a little different on shop shelves under the UK government's planned EU food deal, it has emerged."


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0e53x475qjo

    I was so getting vibes of Yes Minister and the sausage crisis from that one.
    I suppose that if you're Spanish or Portuguese then it must seem impossibly arrogant of the English to take the name of your ancient quince spread and make it almost universally mean something quite different. It would be like if the whole world believed that pigs in blankets were those weird American pseudo sausage rolls.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,082

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Good morning

    It is simply inexplicable that despite everything about Farage and Reform they lead the polls and are winning locals

    The greens are also surprising on the upside, and apart from SNP and Plaid all the other parties are really suffering and that includes the Lib Dems

    This talks to the utter disillusionment with politics and the desire to vote for NOA

    Politics is witnessing an earthquake and frankly being the government of the day is a very unhappy place and about to become worse with decisions on spending, borrowing, and taxing being the nightmare
    Can't disagree with any of that Big_G. All very depressing.
    It's depressing, but not entirely surprising. After all, things don't feel great, and Farage's message- it's not your fault, it's Them- is always popular in those circumstances.

    That a lot of the reasons things don't feel great (not all, but a lot) follow fairly smoothly from decisions we have democratically made over the decades is just customary procedure. We expect the government to do more, despite reducing and selling off its capacity to do so. The impressive thing is that the plates kept spinning for so long, really.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,531
    Brixian59 said:

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Meanwhile in Dimsville, the Tories continue to ape Reform aping MAGA. Spending countless time attacking Reform for aping the Tories aping MAGA.

    A fight to the death on the Right of British politics that is a truly enedifying sight for any One Nation traditional Tory.
    I suspect the existential threat is to Labour with the Green break out. I have told you all before, The Tory party are like cockroaches they survive Armageddon.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 59,066
    Brixian59 said:

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Meanwhile in Dimsville, the Tories continue to ape Reform aping MAGA. Spending countless time attacking Reform for aping the Tories aping MAGA.

    A fight to the death on the Right of British politics that is a truly enedifying sight for any One Nation traditional Tory.
    Welcome to Dimsville.

    Population: you.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,451
    Stereodog said:

    ydoethur said:

    Never mind the end of Western Civilisation, somebody need to start campaigning for Britain to leave the EU:

    "Marmalade has long been a quintessential British preserve, with some recipes handed down between multiple generations.
    But jars of the fruity spread could look a little different on shop shelves under the UK government's planned EU food deal, it has emerged."


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0e53x475qjo

    I was so getting vibes of Yes Minister and the sausage crisis from that one.
    I suppose that if you're Spanish or Portuguese then it must seem impossibly arrogant of the English to take the name of your ancient quince spread and make it almost universally mean something quite different. It would be like if the whole world believed that pigs in blankets were those weird American pseudo sausage rolls.
    To be fair though, the German word for jam is 'marmalade' pronounced 'mah marlarder.' So it's not just us.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 59,066

    Brixian59 said:

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Meanwhile in Dimsville, the Tories continue to ape Reform aping MAGA. Spending countless time attacking Reform for aping the Tories aping MAGA.

    A fight to the death on the Right of British politics that is a truly enedifying sight for any One Nation traditional Tory.
    I suspect the existential threat is to Labour with the Green break out. I have told you all before, The Tory party are like cockroaches they survive Armageddon.
    The voters will let Reform have a go at filling the potholes.

    But they won't let Reform run the country.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,484

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Good morning

    It is simply inexplicable that despite everything about Farage and Reform they lead the polls and are winning locals

    The greens are also surprising on the upside, and apart from SNP and Plaid all the other parties are really suffering and that includes the Lib Dems

    This talks to the utter disillusionment with politics and the desire to vote for NOA

    Politics is witnessing an earthquake and frankly being the government of the day is a very unhappy place and about to become worse with decisions on spending, borrowing, and taxing being the nightmare
    Can't disagree with any of that Big_G. All very depressing.
    It's depressing, but not entirely surprising. After all, things don't feel great, and Farage's message- it's not your fault, it's Them- is always popular in those circumstances.

    That a lot of the reasons things don't feel great (not all, but a lot) follow fairly smoothly from decisions we have democratically made over the decades is just customary procedure. We expect the government to do more, despite reducing and selling off its capacity to do so. The impressive thing is that the plates kept spinning for so long, really.
    The plates are going to come crashing down .

    The choice is either a big increase in taxes or huge cuts to services , the triple lock going and big cuts to other welfare spending .

  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,945
    edited 7:45AM
    For those whom enjoy EU stories about banning bananas that bend to the right instead of to the left, happy days are back. This time it's marmalade.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0e53x475qjo

    Edit: I see that I am not the first to spot this development.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 71,021

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Good morning

    It is simply inexplicable that despite everything about Farage and Reform they lead the polls and are winning locals

    The greens are also surprising on the upside, and apart from SNP and Plaid all the other parties are really suffering and that includes the Lib Dems

    This talks to the utter disillusionment with politics and the desire to vote for NOA

    Politics is witnessing an earthquake and frankly being the government of the day is a very unhappy place and about to become worse with decisions on spending, borrowing, and taxing being the nightmare
    Can't disagree with any of that Big_G. All very depressing.
    It's depressing, but not entirely surprising. After all, things don't feel great, and Farage's message- it's not your fault, it's Them- is always popular in those circumstances.

    That a lot of the reasons things don't feel great (not all, but a lot) follow fairly smoothly from decisions we have democratically made over the decades is just customary procedure. We expect the government to do more, despite reducing and selling off its capacity to do so. The impressive thing is that the plates kept spinning for so long, really.
    Polanski has same message, except them is 'the billionaires'.

  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,817

    Brixian59 said:

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Meanwhile in Dimsville, the Tories continue to ape Reform aping MAGA. Spending countless time attacking Reform for aping the Tories aping MAGA.

    A fight to the death on the Right of British politics that is a truly enedifying sight for any One Nation traditional Tory.
    I suspect the existential threat is to Labour with the Green break out. I have told you all before, The Tory party are like cockroaches they survive Armageddon.
    The voters will let Reform have a go at filling the potholes.

    But they won't let Reform run the country.
    I wondered why they were making such a play for my constituency. It's pothole central down here.
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,496

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Good morning

    It is simply inexplicable that despite everything about Farage and Reform they lead the polls and are winning locals

    The greens are also surprising on the upside, and apart from SNP and Plaid all the other parties are really suffering and that includes the Lib Dems

    This talks to the utter disillusionment with politics and the desire to vote for NOA

    Politics is witnessing an earthquake and frankly being the government of the day is a very unhappy place and about to become worse with decisions on spending, borrowing, and taxing being the nightmare
    It’s not inexplicable at all, for either party.

    They largely represent groups of voters who feel the main parties do not work for them full stop. Be it the young or hard left or people in deindustrialised left behind towns.

    If politics had worked for them and these regions the attraction of NOTA would be far less.

    Voting for the main three parties simply just gets many people more of the same and when that more of the same is just crap then they have little to lose.

    Look at the forecast for Brum. Islamist’s, Refrom and Green as the three main parties.

    Still, blame the voters is what many here do instead of trying to grasp why the dissillusionment.

    I like my Labour MP. I’ve always voted Labour. No more. I’m not yet convinced by Reform. So next time I won’t vote, as it stands.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,833

    Brixian59 said:

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Meanwhile in Dimsville, the Tories continue to ape Reform aping MAGA. Spending countless time attacking Reform for aping the Tories aping MAGA.

    A fight to the death on the Right of British politics that is a truly enedifying sight for any One Nation traditional Tory.
    I suspect the existential threat is to Labour with the Green break out. I have told you all before, The Tory party are like cockroaches they survive Armageddon.
    The voters will let Reform have a go at filling the potholes.

    But they won't let Reform run the country.
    The mayoral limousine is going to be replaced by a clown car in quite a few local authorities in May.

    Goodness knows what bunch of chancers will be trying to run Bradford.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 59,066
    1,230 Russian troops and 65 of their artillery pieces no longer reporting for duty today.

    It is said that the Russians need to recruit 1,100 a day just to keep the number of forces static. So the troops available for the SMO have actually been reducing for the past couple of weeks.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 71,021
    Battlebus said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    This is nuts

    ‘ JUST IN: You do not fire your Army Chief of Staff in the middle of a war for no reason. You fire him because of what comes next.

    Pete Hegseth called General Randy George on April 2 and told him to retire immediately. The Pentagon confirmed it within hours. No reason was given. Not publicly. Not privately. A senior Army official told Fox News that Hegseth offered George nothing: no misconduct, no operational failure, no policy disagreement on the record. Just a phone call and a career ending in the middle of the most significant American combat operation in two decades.

    George is the 24th general or admiral Hegseth has removed. But he is not the 24th. He is the one that matters. The Army Chief of Staff. The man whose signature sits between a president’s intent and the order that sends soldiers across a beach or into a tunnel complex. The 82nd Airborne is deploying right now. Marines from the 31st MEU are staged on the USS Tripoli. JSOC operators are at forward bases in Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE. Kharg Island, 90 percent of Iranian oil exports, sits 16 kilometres off a coast that someone will have to decide whether to approach. And the four-star general whose job it was to advise whether that approach should happen was removed 48 hours after Trump told the nation the war would continue for two to three more weeks’


    https://x.com/shanaka86/status/2039864630701662461?s=61

    I think the last time there was an enforced change of Chief in an operation this significant was when Truman fired MacArthur in 1951.

    This was because MacArthur had not only been trying to ignore Truman's orders but had threatened to invade China and was demanding, publicly, that Truman use nukes.

    I haven't seen anything along those lines from George.
    Bit of background from the NY Times.

    https://x.com/tripgabriel/status/2039854432112738700?s=61
    Interesting article. Was it the cancellation of defence contractors' orders that was the trigger?

    There seems to be a pivot by Trump from religion (evangelicals) to war (and defence contractors' bottom line). An indication that Trump no longer believes he can go for a third term but wants to collect as many trophies and cash in the next 3 years (or 6 months depending on the mid terms)
    Sacking all the generals with direct experience of the war in Iraq one by one.

    Not going to be a problem when they invade Iran... no siree. It'll all be fine.

  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,484

    1,230 Russian troops and 65 of their artillery pieces no longer reporting for duty today.

    It is said that the Russians need to recruit 1,100 a day just to keep the number of forces static. So the troops available for the SMO have actually been reducing for the past couple of weeks.

    They used to just try and recruit from rural areas but now apparently they’re going into universities and more urban areas .

    Richer Russians aren’t so interested in their sons being used as cannon fodder .
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 59,066
    algarkirk said:

    For those whom enjoy EU stories about banning bananas that bend to the right instead of to the left, happy days are back. This time it's marmalade.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0e53x475qjo

    Edit: I see that I am not the first to spot this development.

    I wonder if the nation's branches of the Women's Institute will comply?

    What next? "I bought this jam, but it contained no musicians having a good time..."
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 71,021
    Hegseth also sacked the army's head chaplain.

    Presumably he wasn't 'end of days', swivel-eyed, christian nationalist enough for Hegseth.

  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 27,117
    Scott_xP said:

    MelonB said:

    And now it’s a breathless British space scientist getting excited that “we” are going to the moon again.

    It’s telling. “We” are not going to the moon, the Americans are. I’d love to give the benefit of the doubt and conclude she means humans, but let’s be honest, if and when China is flying people to the moon she won’t be talking about “we”.

    I don’t think a lot of Brits have yet woken up to the reality the USA is no longer a fraternal ally.

    The European Space Agency made some components for the mission and at least one of the project managers is a Brit
    One of the astronauts went on holiday to Scotland once, and anothers nephew really like fish and chips too.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 59,066
    nico67 said:

    1,230 Russian troops and 65 of their artillery pieces no longer reporting for duty today.

    It is said that the Russians need to recruit 1,100 a day just to keep the number of forces static. So the troops available for the SMO have actually been reducing for the past couple of weeks.

    They used to just try and recruit from rural areas but now apparently they’re going into universities and more urban areas .

    Richer Russians aren’t so interested in their sons being used as cannon fodder .
    There are lots of stories of press gangs - young men summoned to court, only to find it is a recruiting officer tasked with signing him up.

    I think it is now widely understood that signing up for the Russian army is a short-term death sentence.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,531
    edited 7:56AM

    Brixian59 said:

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Meanwhile in Dimsville, the Tories continue to ape Reform aping MAGA. Spending countless time attacking Reform for aping the Tories aping MAGA.

    A fight to the death on the Right of British politics that is a truly enedifying sight for any One Nation traditional Tory.
    I suspect the existential threat is to Labour with the Green break out. I have told you all before, The Tory party are like cockroaches they survive Armageddon.
    The voters will let Reform have a go at filling the potholes.

    But they won't let Reform run the country.
    The Tory brand is still shot away after Johnson and Truss defacated all over it, but I suspect the Conservative Party survive and then thrive as some sort of Reform- Conservative alliance before jettisoning the racist Reform moniker. I suspect the new improved party will not welcome the likes of Spreadsheet and Dom Grieve back.

    Labour could well be finished under Starmer. Having a poor war (with the Leader of the Free World outraged at their treacherous behaviour) against a resurgent LOTO, who to be fair hasn't put a foot wrong on PB. Bookending a hundred years would be a fitting end.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 59,066

    Hegseth also sacked the army's head chaplain.

    Presumably he wasn't 'end of days', swivel-eyed, christian nationalist enough for Hegseth.

    Presumably he wasn't signed up to the war crime "no quarter" mentality.

    It may take a while, but it will be most satisfying seeing Hegseth sentenced to 800 years in chokey.

    If he doesn't get fragged first.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,282
    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    This is nuts

    ‘ JUST IN: You do not fire your Army Chief of Staff in the middle of a war for no reason. You fire him because of what comes next.

    Pete Hegseth called General Randy George on April 2 and told him to retire immediately. The Pentagon confirmed it within hours. No reason was given. Not publicly. Not privately. A senior Army official told Fox News that Hegseth offered George nothing: no misconduct, no operational failure, no policy disagreement on the record. Just a phone call and a career ending in the middle of the most significant American combat operation in two decades.

    George is the 24th general or admiral Hegseth has removed. But he is not the 24th. He is the one that matters. The Army Chief of Staff. The man whose signature sits between a president’s intent and the order that sends soldiers across a beach or into a tunnel complex. The 82nd Airborne is deploying right now. Marines from the 31st MEU are staged on the USS Tripoli. JSOC operators are at forward bases in Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE. Kharg Island, 90 percent of Iranian oil exports, sits 16 kilometres off a coast that someone will have to decide whether to approach. And the four-star general whose job it was to advise whether that approach should happen was removed 48 hours after Trump told the nation the war would continue for two to three more weeks’


    https://x.com/shanaka86/status/2039864630701662461?s=61

    I think the last time there was an enforced change of Chief in an operation this significant was when Truman fired MacArthur in 1951.

    This was because MacArthur had not only been trying to ignore Truman's orders but had threatened to invade China and was demanding, publicly, that Truman use nukes.

    I haven't seen anything along those lines from George.
    Possibly fired for not wanting to invade China and not demanding to use nukes.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 27,117

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    This is nuts

    ‘ JUST IN: You do not fire your Army Chief of Staff in the middle of a war for no reason. You fire him because of what comes next.

    Pete Hegseth called General Randy George on April 2 and told him to retire immediately. The Pentagon confirmed it within hours. No reason was given. Not publicly. Not privately. A senior Army official told Fox News that Hegseth offered George nothing: no misconduct, no operational failure, no policy disagreement on the record. Just a phone call and a career ending in the middle of the most significant American combat operation in two decades.

    George is the 24th general or admiral Hegseth has removed. But he is not the 24th. He is the one that matters. The Army Chief of Staff. The man whose signature sits between a president’s intent and the order that sends soldiers across a beach or into a tunnel complex. The 82nd Airborne is deploying right now. Marines from the 31st MEU are staged on the USS Tripoli. JSOC operators are at forward bases in Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE. Kharg Island, 90 percent of Iranian oil exports, sits 16 kilometres off a coast that someone will have to decide whether to approach. And the four-star general whose job it was to advise whether that approach should happen was removed 48 hours after Trump told the nation the war would continue for two to three more weeks’


    https://x.com/shanaka86/status/2039864630701662461?s=61

    I think the last time there was an enforced change of Chief in an operation this significant was when Truman fired MacArthur in 1951.

    This was because MacArthur had not only been trying to ignore Truman's orders but had threatened to invade China and was demanding, publicly, that Truman use nukes.

    I haven't seen anything along those lines from George.
    Possibly fired for not wanting to invade China and not demanding to use nukes.
    China? Nothing wrong with an autocratic regime led by a megalomaniac dictator in the MAGA world. More likely not fancying invading Canada or Denmark.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,531

    nico67 said:

    1,230 Russian troops and 65 of their artillery pieces no longer reporting for duty today.

    It is said that the Russians need to recruit 1,100 a day just to keep the number of forces static. So the troops available for the SMO have actually been reducing for the past couple of weeks.

    They used to just try and recruit from rural areas but now apparently they’re going into universities and more urban areas .

    Richer Russians aren’t so interested in their sons being used as cannon fodder .
    There are lots of stories of press gangs - young men summoned to court, only to find it is a recruiting officer tasked with signing him up.

    I think it is now widely understood that signing up for the Russian army is a short-term death sentence.
    Has anyone thought about conscripting the entire PLP to the Russian Army?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 59,066

    Brixian59 said:

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Meanwhile in Dimsville, the Tories continue to ape Reform aping MAGA. Spending countless time attacking Reform for aping the Tories aping MAGA.

    A fight to the death on the Right of British politics that is a truly enedifying sight for any One Nation traditional Tory.
    I suspect the existential threat is to Labour with the Green break out. I have told you all before, The Tory party are like cockroaches they survive Armageddon.
    The voters will let Reform have a go at filling the potholes.

    But they won't let Reform run the country.
    The Tory brand is still shot away after Johnson and Truss defacated all over it, but I suspect the Conservative Party survive and then thrive as some sort of Reform- Conservative alliance before jettisoning the racist Reform moniker. I suspect the new improved party will not welcome the likes of Spreadsheet and Dom Grieve back.

    Labour could well be finished under Starmer. Having a poor war (with the Leader of the Free World outraged at their treacherous behaviour) against a resurgent LOTO, who to be fair hasn't put a foot wrong. Bookending a hundred years would be a fitting end.
    The only story coming out of the May locals will be the devastation of Labour in its heartlands. It is already scoring under 1% across swathes of the country where it was not competitive.

    If they are to survive, they need to govern W-A-Y better. And they need to get Medieval on Farage's ass.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,109

    Hegseth also sacked the army's head chaplain.

    Presumably he wasn't 'end of days', swivel-eyed, christian nationalist enough for Hegseth.

    It's much simpler than that

    Have a guess what colour the guy's skin is...
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,289
    algarkirk said:

    For those whom enjoy EU stories about banning bananas that bend to the right instead of to the left, happy days are back. This time it's marmalade.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0e53x475qjo

    Edit: I see that I am not the first to spot this development.

    A minor example of the sovereignty outcome of Brexit where you have to follow rules the UK no longer has any say in making.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 28,140
    Scott_xP said:

    MelonB said:

    And now it’s a breathless British space scientist getting excited that “we” are going to the moon again.

    It’s telling. “We” are not going to the moon, the Americans are. I’d love to give the benefit of the doubt and conclude she means humans, but let’s be honest, if and when China is flying people to the moon she won’t be talking about “we”.

    I don’t think a lot of Brits have yet woken up to the reality the USA is no longer a fraternal ally.

    The European Space Agency made some components for the mission and at least one of the project managers is a Brit
    The windscreen on the 747 is (or was?) built in Britain. The 747 is not considered British.
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,496
    edited 8:09AM

    Brixian59 said:

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Meanwhile in Dimsville, the Tories continue to ape Reform aping MAGA. Spending countless time attacking Reform for aping the Tories aping MAGA.

    A fight to the death on the Right of British politics that is a truly enedifying sight for any One Nation traditional Tory.
    I suspect the existential threat is to Labour with the Green break out. I have told you all before, The Tory party are like cockroaches they survive Armageddon.
    The voters will let Reform have a go at filling the potholes.

    But they won't let Reform run the country.
    The Tory brand is still shot away after Johnson and Truss defacated all over it, but I suspect the Conservative Party survive and then thrive as some sort of Reform- Conservative alliance before jettisoning the racist Reform moniker. I suspect the new improved party will not welcome the likes of Spreadsheet and Dom Grieve back.

    Labour could well be finished under Starmer. Having a poor war (with the Leader of the Free World outraged at their treacherous behaviour) against a resurgent LOTO, who to be fair hasn't put a foot wrong. Bookending a hundred years would be a fitting end.
    The only story coming out of the May locals will be the devastation of Labour in its heartlands. It is already scoring under 1% across swathes of the country where it was not competitive.

    If they are to survive, they need to govern W-A-Y better. And they need to get Medieval on Farage's ass.
    They need to govern for the whole country inckuding the former heartlands instead of just take them for granted. As they always have.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 27,117
    viewcode said:

    Scott_xP said:

    MelonB said:

    And now it’s a breathless British space scientist getting excited that “we” are going to the moon again.

    It’s telling. “We” are not going to the moon, the Americans are. I’d love to give the benefit of the doubt and conclude she means humans, but let’s be honest, if and when China is flying people to the moon she won’t be talking about “we”.

    I don’t think a lot of Brits have yet woken up to the reality the USA is no longer a fraternal ally.

    The European Space Agency made some components for the mission and at least one of the project managers is a Brit
    The windscreen on the 747 is (or was?) built in Britain. The 747 is not considered British.
    More to the point, if the US find some new technologies that aid the economy or defence they are not sharing it with us, because they no longer like or respect us. We are wishy washy woke liberals in their eyes, and that is a sin.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,531

    Brixian59 said:

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Meanwhile in Dimsville, the Tories continue to ape Reform aping MAGA. Spending countless time attacking Reform for aping the Tories aping MAGA.

    A fight to the death on the Right of British politics that is a truly enedifying sight for any One Nation traditional Tory.
    I suspect the existential threat is to Labour with the Green break out. I have told you all before, The Tory party are like cockroaches they survive Armageddon.
    The voters will let Reform have a go at filling the potholes.

    But they won't let Reform run the country.
    The Tory brand is still shot away after Johnson and Truss defacated all over it, but I suspect the Conservative Party survive and then thrive as some sort of Reform- Conservative alliance before jettisoning the racist Reform moniker. I suspect the new improved party will not welcome the likes of Spreadsheet and Dom Grieve back.

    Labour could well be finished under Starmer. Having a poor war (with the Leader of the Free World outraged at their treacherous behaviour) against a resurgent LOTO, who to be fair hasn't put a foot wrong. Bookending a hundred years would be a fitting end.
    The only story coming out of the May locals will be the devastation of Labour in its heartlands. It is already scoring under 1% across swathes of the country where it was not competitive.

    If they are to survive, they need to govern W-A-Y better. And they need to get Medieval on Farage's ass.
    The voter has had enough of 80 years of Labour and Conservative failure. Labour are holding the parcel when the music stops so the Conservatives survive and Labour don't. Zack is now on board as a proper socialist while Starmer is a poor facsimile of a Tory. The media remains pro-Conservative and anti Labour (and in the spirit of my enemy's enemy is my friend are supporting Zack).

    The Conservative name thrives via Reform, but it won't be a party McMillan and Heath would recognise.

    Make no mistake, this Government is poor, but your Government from 2016 was even worse.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,109
    edited 8:11AM

    MelonB said:

    Jenrick just on Today yet again pretending he was never in the Tory party let alone a cabinet minister,

    Amongst other things he was banging on about “the net zero madness”. This seems to be the latest US culture war import. Nevermind the physics, let’s treat global climate as a social science. What next: guns, or abortion?

    Reform continue to ape MAGA, while MAGA’s incompetence, corruption and general disregard for reality continues to wreck the US and the global economy.
    Good morning

    It is simply inexplicable that despite everything about Farage and Reform they lead the polls and are winning locals

    The greens are also surprising on the upside, and apart from SNP and Plaid all the other parties are really suffering and that includes the Lib Dems

    This talks to the utter disillusionment with politics and the desire to vote for NOA

    Politics is witnessing an earthquake and frankly being the government of the day is a very unhappy place and about to become worse with decisions on spending, borrowing, and taxing being the nightmare
    Can't disagree with any of that Big_G. All very depressing.
    I would like it but I really do not

    What scares me is this has no end in sight and economic disruption across the globe creating very angry electorates

    Anyway, happy easter to everyone no matter who your God is
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