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This bet makes me disgusted in myself – politicalbetting.com

Tucker Carlson as the next president is something I didn’t expect to write even in these fevered times but I can see the logic. One of the principles behind MAGA was no more foreign wars and with DonaldTrump resiling from that Tucker Carlson might harness those disappointed by the invents in the Middle East.

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  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,555
    First?
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,744
    When facing Carlson, would you want to be in Rubio's shoes? Or even Vance's?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,969
    Battlebus said:

    When facing Carlson, would you want to be in Rubio's shoes? Or even Vance's?

    I suspect little Marco is going to end up taking the blame for Iran.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,161

    Battlebus said:

    When facing Carlson, would you want to be in Rubio's shoes? Or even Vance's?

    I suspect little Marco is going to end up taking the blame for Iran.
    Certainly Vance will try to pin it on both Trump and Rubio.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,969
    Kemi Badenoch needs to fire Priti Patel.

    EXCLUSIVE: Tory ex-Home Secretary Priti Patel BLOCKED the FBI from quizzing Andrew over Epstein

    Priti Patel prevented the FBI from questioning Andrew about his links to the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, despite officers having 'documentary evidence suggesting he knew about sex trafficking'


    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-ex-home-secretary-priti-36901236
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,831
    He's going to be fighting for that smallish pool of voters that MTG has already claimed as hers: batshit MAGA disappointed with Trump.

    As a means to grift millions, he might run. But it will have to be as an independent outside of the Republican Party. Either Trump screws the pooch so badly that the brand is toxic and the Dems walk the next; or else there is still some value in the Trump brand and one of the offspring gets pitched in to carry thename forward.

    Which is why Carlson won't run, still less he won't win.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,744
    edited 7:51AM

    Kemi Badenoch needs to fire Priti Patel.

    EXCLUSIVE: Tory ex-Home Secretary Priti Patel BLOCKED the FBI from quizzing Andrew over Epstein

    Priti Patel prevented the FBI from questioning Andrew about his links to the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, despite officers having 'documentary evidence suggesting he knew about sex trafficking'


    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-ex-home-secretary-priti-36901236

    Patel - close to Israel. Epstein - close to Israel. Wonder who has the pics?

    ... and you've missed the shoes joke.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,969
    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,203

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Miliband, obviously. Hero of our times. Who better to name a new town after?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,969
    geoffw said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    How about naming them after some characteristic feature of the town itself?
    Up to 12 places will be announced, about three of which do not have an obvious name. The Times has seen five names proposed by officials. Elizabethtown, after the late Queen, is a top contender.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,561

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    - Atherton (after the famously dour England cricket captain)
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,969
    FF43 said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Miliband, obviously. Hero of our times. Who better to name a new town after?
    There's public consultations involved, so Towny McTownface.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,528

    geoffw said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    How about naming them after some characteristic feature of the town itself?
    Up to 12 places will be announced, about three of which do not have an obvious name. The Times has seen five names proposed by officials. Elizabethtown, after the late Queen, is a top contender.
    Too cumbersome. Lizville better
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,654

    FF43 said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Miliband, obviously. Hero of our times. Who better to name a new town after?
    There's public consultations involved, so Towny McTownface.
    I used to think Townsville in Queensland had the best name, but sadly it is named for Mr Towns.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,831
    ydoethur said:

    Battlebus said:

    When facing Carlson, would you want to be in Rubio's shoes? Or even Vance's?

    I suspect little Marco is going to end up taking the blame for Iran.
    Certainly Vance will try to pin it on both Trump and Rubio.
    Er...Hegseth?

    It will be like Putin, not being told the true state of the armed forces because bad news get rewarded with falling out a window.

    He would have got away with keeping the Straits of Hormuz open, if it weren't for those pesky Iranian kids...

    I'm starting to think that whoever is the Democratic nominee in 2028, they are going to ride a landslide win based on bringing Biblical retribution upon everybody involved with this Adminisration. Ezekial 25:17 shit. Including the promise of show trials, very long jail terms and seizure of ALL the wealth garnered from the grift. America will demand it; the incoming President will need to offer it to the world by way of an apology.

    Anything less will be deemed cowardice.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,756

    FF43 said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Miliband, obviously. Hero of our times. Who better to name a new town after?
    There's public consultations involved, so Towny McTownface.
    We already have Blair Atholl
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,840
    edited 8:03AM
    geoffw said:

    geoffw said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    How about naming them after some characteristic feature of the town itself?
    Up to 12 places will be announced, about three of which do not have an obvious name. The Times has seen five names proposed by officials. Elizabethtown, after the late Queen, is a top contender.
    Too cumbersome. Lizville better
    Lizville is too French. Bettysburg would be suitable.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,156
    There was a PB poster who used to wax lyrical about Tucker, he virtually orgasmed to death over his Putin interview. Given that poster voted for Starmer, Boris and Brexit, his endorsement may not be auspicious.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,535

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Queen Elizabeth II already has two tube lines named after her. (I know the Elizabeth line isn’t technically a tube line.)
    Emmeline Pankhurst was a terrorist. Æthelstan (successfully) invaded Scotland, which might not go down well.

    I suggest Petaton, named after Peta, the No 10 cat in the sixties and seventies.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,648
    Err, a definite QTWTAIN for this one.

    Most people formed a view of him as a conservative journalist and commentator over three decades - until about two years ago. Modern Tucker is someone quite different to the Fox News guy.

    Can I see him running, possibly, but in recent months his show has turned into the same sort of antisemetic conspiracy theory usually associated with the likes of Candace Owens.

    He recently ‘bought’ a house in Qatar, and let’s not forget his trip last year to Moscow to give Putin a soft-soap interview in the middle of the Ukraine war, featuring added bonus content walking around the fancy part of town and saying how much better it is than America.

    My money for ‘28 GOP nomination is on Rubio so far.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,895

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Elizabethtown is a little colonial (and wasn’t there a terrible zombie movie called that).

    Attleeton and Athelstan are a little pretentious.

    Pankhurst and Seacole work (although the latter should be far inland just to confuse future generations)
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,156
    geoffw said:

    geoffw said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    How about naming them after some characteristic feature of the town itself?
    Up to 12 places will be announced, about three of which do not have an obvious name. The Times has seen five names proposed by officials. Elizabethtown, after the late Queen, is a top contender.
    Too cumbersome. Lizville better
    Lizhampton, giving that requisite Carry On bit of British sniggering.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,831

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    - Atherton (after the famously dour England cricket captain)
    Boycott the naming process. Or Boycott.

    Pankhurst sounds like Parkhurst. Seacole like Sick-hole. Soon to be Shit-hole. Athelstan - like, aren't their already enough ungovernable Stans in the world?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,535

    geoffw said:

    geoffw said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    How about naming them after some characteristic feature of the town itself?
    Up to 12 places will be announced, about three of which do not have an obvious name. The Times has seen five names proposed by officials. Elizabethtown, after the late Queen, is a top contender.
    Too cumbersome. Lizville better
    Lizville is too French. Bettysburg would be suitable.
    Buffyville, after the Queen Mother.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,528

    geoffw said:

    geoffw said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    How about naming them after some characteristic feature of the town itself?
    Up to 12 places will be announced, about three of which do not have an obvious name. The Times has seen five names proposed by officials. Elizabethtown, after the late Queen, is a top contender.
    Too cumbersome. Lizville better
    Lizville is too French. Bettysburg would be suitable.
    Battenberg then, for cakes and Phil

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,386

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Naming towns after people is a bit naff.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,969

    geoffw said:

    geoffw said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    How about naming them after some characteristic feature of the town itself?
    Up to 12 places will be announced, about three of which do not have an obvious name. The Times has seen five names proposed by officials. Elizabethtown, after the late Queen, is a top contender.
    Too cumbersome. Lizville better
    Lizville is too French. Bettysburg would be suitable.
    Buffyville, after the Queen Mother.
    Talking about Buffy, tremendously sad news to wake up to.

    Nicholas Brendon, Buffy the Vampire Slayer actor, dies at 54

    Family says actor, who played Xander in hit TV series, died on Friday ‘in his sleep of natural causes’


    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2026/mar/20/nicholas-brendon-buffy-the-vampire-slayer-actor-dies
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,386

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    - Atherton (after the famously dour England cricket captain)
    Hamilton
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,840
    Hearing Trump's absolute refusal to accept that the Ukrainians have helped the US with drone defence in the Middle East makes clear *again* how deep-seated his personal animus against Zelensky and Ukraine is.

    I think this bet is terrible, btw. Three weeks into the war, still fighting, yet 100% won, the US doesn't use Hormuz, yet gas prices are up, easy to keep it open, but the US can't do it alone. Even despite all of these massive contradictions Trump is able to keep the overwhelming support of his MAGA base.

    I know I've been surprised that the war is still going, but it's clear that Trump is desperate for it to end (100% won is a tell) so I just can't see it dragging on for long enough for his base to finally recognise they've been had.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,386
    Foxy said:

    FF43 said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Miliband, obviously. Hero of our times. Who better to name a new town after?
    There's public consultations involved, so Towny McTownface.
    I used to think Townsville in Queensland had the best name, but sadly it is named for Mr Towns.
    Villetown - which could be shorten to the more descriptive Viletown.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,648
    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Naming towns after people is a bit naff.
    How many pubs have changed their name from “Duke of York” in recent years?

    Much easier to name new towns after local landmarks or features. The only person worthy of it is probably the late Queen Elizabeth II
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,682
    Good morning, everyone.

    F1: rather surprised Wheatley's leaving Audi. Their performance is better than expected (high DNS rate, but others have that or DNFs too).

    Likely off to Aston Martin, but that team was so much better run when it had a shoestring budget.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,386

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Queen Elizabeth II already has two tube lines named after her. (I know the Elizabeth line isn’t technically a tube line.)
    Emmeline Pankhurst was a terrorist. Æthelstan (successfully) invaded Scotland, which might not go down well.

    I suggest Petaton, named after Peta, the No 10 cat in the sixties and seventies.
    An extremely heavy name.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,738

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Those are terrible. Should name them after a local feature, with the appropriate Saxon/Norse/Gaelic.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,386

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Queen Elizabeth II already has two tube lines named after her. (I know the Elizabeth line isn’t technically a tube line.)
    Emmeline Pankhurst was a terrorist. Æthelstan (successfully) invaded Scotland, which might not go down well.

    I suggest Petaton, named after Peta, the No 10 cat in the sixties and seventies.
    Good idea- Palmerston would be a great name for a new town. Pronounceable, strong cadence, nod to linguistic heritage, significant in history
    We've had no '-ham's.

    Beckham ??
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,213
    edited 8:18AM

    geoffw said:

    geoffw said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    How about naming them after some characteristic feature of the town itself?
    Up to 12 places will be announced, about three of which do not have an obvious name. The Times has seen five names proposed by officials. Elizabethtown, after the late Queen, is a top contender.
    Too cumbersome. Lizville better
    Lizville is too French. Bettysburg would be suitable.
    Buffyville, after the Queen Mother.
    Sticking with combining two random people or things like Milton and Keynes, if the new town were to be built in the Cambridgeshire fens one could incorporate an existing local town name, for example Yaxley. To spice things up one could add a name from recent history, for example, the surname of a much loved fallen Beatle.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,528
    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Queen Elizabeth II already has two tube lines named after her. (I know the Elizabeth line isn’t technically a tube line.)
    Emmeline Pankhurst was a terrorist. Æthelstan (successfully) invaded Scotland, which might not go down well.

    I suggest Petaton, named after Peta, the No 10 cat in the sixties and seventies.
    An extremely heavy name.
    The committee will have to weigh it up

  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,911

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Queen Elizabeth II already has two tube lines named after her. (I know the Elizabeth line isn’t technically a tube line.)
    Emmeline Pankhurst was a terrorist. Æthelstan (successfully) invaded Scotland, which might not go down well.

    I suggest Petaton, named after Peta, the No 10 cat in the sixties and seventies.
    Good idea- Palmerston would be a great name for a new town. Pronounceable, strong cadence, nod to linguistic heritage, significant in history
    Churchill, as a sop to the five pound note obsessives.

    To be built somewhere in the Fens, for comedy value.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,840
    edited 8:16AM
    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Naming towns after people is a bit naff.
    There are a lot of place names in England named after people: someone's field, or someone's village, etc, but the names are so old, and have been subtly corrupted, that we don't recognise them as such anymore.

    So it's a weird combination of being completely normal, and sounding really odd and lame.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,535

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Elizabethtown is a little colonial (and wasn’t there a terrible zombie movie called that).

    Attleeton and Athelstan are a little pretentious.

    Pankhurst and Seacole work (although the latter should be far inland just to confuse future generations)
    Instead of Seacole, just call it Florence, after Florence Nightingale. I believe Florence is a tried and tested name for a town.

    Or Parthenope, after Florence Nightingale’s sister.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,738
    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Naming towns after people is a bit naff.
    How many pubs have changed their name from “Duke of York” in recent years?

    Much easier to name new towns after local landmarks or features. The only person worthy of it is probably the late Queen Elizabeth II
    Pubs should be banned from changing their names if built more than 50 years ago. They are an important part of local history.

    George VI was a Duke of York and he led us through the war.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,528
    Eabhal said:

    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Naming towns after people is a bit naff.
    How many pubs have changed their name from “Duke of York” in recent years?

    Much easier to name new towns after local landmarks or features. The only person worthy of it is probably the late Queen Elizabeth II
    Pubs should be banned from changing their names if built more than 50 years ago. They are an important part of local history.

    George VI was a Duke of York and he led us through the war.
    Going uphill before it became downhill

  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,156
    edited 8:22AM
    On the island (sic) of Harris there’s the town of Leverburgh (originally Obbe) named after Lord Leverhulme. In those days you could just buy a village and name it after yourself.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,756
    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Naming towns after people is a bit naff.
    Saltaire is nice.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 18,061
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/20/fema-gregg-phillips-waffle-house

    Your regular reminder that the Trump Administration is composed of absolute loons.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,535

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/20/fema-gregg-phillips-waffle-house

    Your regular reminder that the Trump Administration is composed of absolute loons.

    Believes that both COVID-19 and its vaccine were engineered to kill people.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,738

    On the island (sic) of Harris there’s the town of Leverburgh (originally Obbe) named after Lord Leverhulme. In those days you could just buy a village and name it after yourself.

    And plenty of new ones liked Grantown. Perhaps if new estates, towns were named after politicians we’d have a lot more of them.

    “Raynerwick”
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,969
    To show our pro-Europeanism and our history we should name these new towns after towns in Europe.

    Waterloo, Agincourt, Trafalgar, Mers-el-Kébir* etc.

    *It is clear French Algiers was European.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,969
    edited 8:27AM

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/20/fema-gregg-phillips-waffle-house

    Your regular reminder that the Trump Administration is composed of absolute loons.

    We don't need reminding, we see it every day.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,749

    I’ve got it! Attenborough! Celebrates a national treasure and already sounds like a town name.

    That’s actually rather good.

    But naming stuff after people who haven’t been dead for about 200 years gets you into the whole controversy-finds-you thing.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,833
    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Queen Elizabeth II already has two tube lines named after her. (I know the Elizabeth line isn’t technically a tube line.)
    Emmeline Pankhurst was a terrorist. Æthelstan (successfully) invaded Scotland, which might not go down well.

    I suggest Petaton, named after Peta, the No 10 cat in the sixties and seventies.
    An extremely heavy name.
    Be done with it and just go for Chavsville.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,840

    I’ve got it! Attenborough! Celebrates a national treasure and already sounds like a town name.

    Attenborough is a district in Beeston, on the edge of Nottingham - so there's an Attenborough rail station.

    Not an impediment - there are plenty of repeated place names in England. Bradford (Devon) used to confuse a popular dating site a couple of decades ago, making a bunch of confused people in West Yorkshire match with people in Exeter instead of those in Leeds.
  • eekeek Posts: 32,967

    On the island (sic) of Harris there’s the town of Leverburgh (originally Obbe) named after Lord Leverhulme. In those days you could just buy a village and name it after yourself.

    So Redrow, Wilson Barratt and Wimpy it is then
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,193
    Fucker Carlson is far worse than Trump.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,911

    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Naming towns after people is a bit naff.
    There are a lot of place names in England named after people: someone's field, or someone's village, etc, but the names are so old, and have been subtly corrupted, that we don't recognise them as such anymore.

    So it's a weird combination of being completely normal, and sounding really odd and lame.
    Suspect there's an analogue of Adam's Law of Technology here; any new name for a new town will sound wrong and artificial, because it wasn't there when we grew up.

    Maybe we should come at this the other way. Instead of commemorating anyone, get AI to generate 100 things that sound like British place names, focus group them to find the least obtrusive three, and then make up a story about them.

    Sort of like Lymeswold.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,213
    edited 8:31AM
    Combining names with geographic features (like Dickens Heath) is another favourite for the new town planners. Thatcher Turning, Beckham Bend or Trump Spur?
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,389

    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Naming towns after people is a bit naff.
    Saltaire is nice.
    Wedgwood?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,648

    I’ve got it! Attenborough! Celebrates a national treasure and already sounds like a town name.

    Attenborough is a district in Beeston, on the edge of Nottingham - so there's an Attenborough rail station.

    Not an impediment - there are plenty of repeated place names in England. Bradford (Devon) used to confuse a popular dating site a couple of decades ago, making a bunch of confused people in West Yorkshire match with people in Exeter instead of those in Leeds.
    There’s quite a few of those around. Farnborough, Kent is a good one, except that there’s no airshow there; and a friend of mine once managed to miss a concert at Leeds Castle, which is 300 miles from the city of the same name.

    In the US there’s at least a couple of dozen Springvilles.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,535
    Foxy said:

    FF43 said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Miliband, obviously. Hero of our times. Who better to name a new town after?
    There's public consultations involved, so Towny McTownface.
    I used to think Townsville in Queensland had the best name, but sadly it is named for Mr Towns.
    One is reminded of Torpenhow. Tor- means hill. -pen means hill. -how means hill.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,472
    I do hope they don't come up with Mandeltown.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,831

    geoffw said:

    geoffw said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    How about naming them after some characteristic feature of the town itself?
    Up to 12 places will be announced, about three of which do not have an obvious name. The Times has seen five names proposed by officials. Elizabethtown, after the late Queen, is a top contender.
    Too cumbersome. Lizville better
    Lizville is too French. Bettysburg would be suitable.
    Buffyville, after the Queen Mother.
    The Queen Mother was a Vampie Slayer?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,213

    Fucker Carlson is far worse than Trump.

    I have told you before there are no stages of ultimate evil. Evil is evil. Trump and Carlson are equally reprehensible. Tucker's advantage is he at least knows his own name.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,688
    Fuel prices would be lower with Tucker
  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 448
    With impeccable timing Starmer decides now to allow US bases to fly ostensibly defensive missions to the war. His permanently pained expression comes from all that time sitting on the spiked fence.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,833
    “Working Person Habitation Zone 1”

    Much clearer and ideologically pure. Bang on trend for modern Britain. Means we can build more with no need for spending money on naming committees.
  • eekeek Posts: 32,967
    edited 8:40AM
    You could have the build train station in more suitable location approach. Which gave us Amersham on the Hill (because the original village is in the valley below) and Beaconsfield Old Town (as they didn’t want to be associated with the new fangled bit),

    West Wycombe is another example - a village West of Wycombe.

    There are maps where Middlesbrough is called Port Darlington so that would work especially if the stream is suitably small

    So my approach would be take a town on a different motorway and add New, east or west to the name and see what happens. The place near Peterborough could be East (or West) Bath
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,840

    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Naming towns after people is a bit naff.
    There are a lot of place names in England named after people: someone's field, or someone's village, etc, but the names are so old, and have been subtly corrupted, that we don't recognise them as such anymore.

    So it's a weird combination of being completely normal, and sounding really odd and lame.
    Suspect there's an analogue of Adam's Law of Technology here; any new name for a new town will sound wrong and artificial, because it wasn't there when we grew up.

    Maybe we should come at this the other way. Instead of commemorating anyone, get AI to generate 100 things that sound like British place names, focus group them to find the least obtrusive three, and then make up a story about them.

    Sort of like Lymeswold.
    You don't need to use AI. There are a whole bunch of place name generator tables used for RPGs. Just roll a few dice.

    I think that, with a bit of effort, you could generate a new place name by simulating the process many of our existing place names have gone through.

    So, take Æthelstan as an example. I'm sure if you asked an expert on Anglo-Saxon place names they could tell you that "Æthelstan's town" would probably have been something like "Æthelstan's burgh", which through centuries of usage would have been shortened to the more easily pronounced "Stanborough" or "Athelsbury". Job done.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,161
    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Queen Elizabeth II already has two tube lines named after her. (I know the Elizabeth line isn’t technically a tube line.)
    Emmeline Pankhurst was a terrorist. Æthelstan (successfully) invaded Scotland, which might not go down well.

    I suggest Petaton, named after Peta, the No 10 cat in the sixties and seventies.
    Good idea- Palmerston would be a great name for a new town. Pronounceable, strong cadence, nod to linguistic heritage, significant in history
    We've had no '-ham's.

    Beckham ??
    Sylvester Stallone?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,433

    Kemi Badenoch needs to fire Priti Patel.

    EXCLUSIVE: Tory ex-Home Secretary Priti Patel BLOCKED the FBI from quizzing Andrew over Epstein

    Priti Patel prevented the FBI from questioning Andrew about his links to the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, despite officers having 'documentary evidence suggesting he knew about sex trafficking'


    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-ex-home-secretary-priti-36901236

    She was right to block it.
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,959
    edited 8:43AM
    Foxy said:

    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Naming towns after people is a bit naff.
    How many pubs have changed their name from “Duke of York” in recent years?

    Much easier to name new towns after local landmarks or features. The only person worthy of it is probably the late Queen Elizabeth II
    The king found it simpler to rename the Duke of York person than the pubs.

    Shows how clever he is...
    Not quite the same thing but I think similar. Yesterday in a WhatsApp reply to a friend I typed ‘Yep’, to indicate my agreement. Now I never say ‘Yep’ in real life. Or for that matter ‘Howdie pardner’ when meeting a friend, which belongs in the same lexicon as ‘Yep’ in my brain’s library system for the filing of phrases.

    So what to do? I can’t cope with having two personalities. Shall I stop typing ‘Yep’ or shall I adopt ‘Yep’ in day to day conversation. And other phrases commonly used by the late, great Deputy Dawg? It’s a cotton-picking problem.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,213
    For Midlands new towns what about the names of Mercian Kings like Leofric (Lady G.'s husband) or of course Eadric.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,433
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Queen Elizabeth II already has two tube lines named after her. (I know the Elizabeth line isn’t technically a tube line.)
    Emmeline Pankhurst was a terrorist. Æthelstan (successfully) invaded Scotland, which might not go down well.

    I suggest Petaton, named after Peta, the No 10 cat in the sixties and seventies.
    Good idea- Palmerston would be a great name for a new town. Pronounceable, strong cadence, nod to linguistic heritage, significant in history
    We've had no '-ham's.

    Beckham ??
    Sylvester Stallone?
    Those names are ghastly.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,353
    Starmer ends up in the worst of all worlds .

    Which seems to sum up his premiership !
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,654
    ydoethur said:

    geoffw said:

    geoffw said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    How about naming them after some characteristic feature of the town itself?
    Up to 12 places will be announced, about three of which do not have an obvious name. The Times has seen five names proposed by officials. Elizabethtown, after the late Queen, is a top contender.
    Too cumbersome. Lizville better
    Lizhampton, giving that requisite Carry On bit of British sniggering.
    If they're going to lead us a dance over names, they shuold call it after our own King and give us a Charleston.
    The dance being named after the SC city, in turn being named for the king when the city was founded. Completing the circle.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,161

    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Naming towns after people is a bit naff.
    There are a lot of place names in England named after people: someone's field, or someone's village, etc, but the names are so old, and have been subtly corrupted, that we don't recognise them as such anymore.

    So it's a weird combination of being completely normal, and sounding really odd and lame.
    Suspect there's an analogue of Adam's Law of Technology here; any new name for a new town will sound wrong and artificial, because it wasn't there when we grew up.

    Maybe we should come at this the other way. Instead of commemorating anyone, get AI to generate 100 things that sound like British place names, focus group them to find the least obtrusive three, and then make up a story about them.

    Sort of like Lymeswold.
    You don't need to use AI. There are a whole bunch of place name generator tables used for RPGs. Just roll a few dice.

    I think that, with a bit of effort, you could generate a new place name by simulating the process many of our existing place names have gone through.

    So, take Æthelstan as an example. I'm sure if you asked an expert on Anglo-Saxon place names they could tell you that "Æthelstan's town" would probably have been something like "Æthelstan's burgh", which through centuries of usage would have been shortened to the more easily pronounced "Stanborough" or "Athelsbury". Job done.
    Telford and Milton Keynes were both named after people.

    Although at least with Telford there was some logic given its links to industry and his own links to Shropshire.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,860

    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Naming towns after people is a bit naff.
    There are a lot of place names in England named after people: someone's field, or someone's village, etc, but the names are so old, and have been subtly corrupted, that we don't recognise them as such anymore.

    So it's a weird combination of being completely normal, and sounding really odd and lame.
    Suspect there's an analogue of Adam's Law of Technology here; any new name for a new town will sound wrong and artificial, because it wasn't there when we grew up.

    Maybe we should come at this the other way. Instead of commemorating anyone, get AI to generate 100 things that sound like British place names, focus group them to find the least obtrusive three, and then make up a story about them.

    Sort of like Lymeswold.
    You don't need to use AI. There are a whole bunch of place name generator tables used for RPGs. Just roll a few dice.

    I think that, with a bit of effort, you could generate a new place name by simulating the process many of our existing place names have gone through.

    So, take Æthelstan as an example. I'm sure if you asked an expert on Anglo-Saxon place names they could tell you that "Æthelstan's town" would probably have been something like "Æthelstan's burgh", which through centuries of usage would have been shortened to the more easily pronounced "Stanborough" or "Athelsbury". Job done.
    Athelstan is on a roll at the moment, next year being the 1100th anniversary of the Treaty of Eamont Bridge (just south of Penrith) in 927, an arguable date for the founding of England.

    David Woodman's recent 'The First King of England' (Princeton UP) highly recommended.

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,161

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Queen Elizabeth II already has two tube lines named after her. (I know the Elizabeth line isn’t technically a tube line.)
    Emmeline Pankhurst was a terrorist. Æthelstan (successfully) invaded Scotland, which might not go down well.

    I suggest Petaton, named after Peta, the No 10 cat in the sixties and seventies.
    Good idea- Palmerston would be a great name for a new town. Pronounceable, strong cadence, nod to linguistic heritage, significant in history
    We've had no '-ham's.

    Beckham ??
    Sylvester Stallone?
    Those names are ghastly.
    I was just trying to think of the world's greatest ham.
  • eekeek Posts: 32,967
    Sandpit said:

    I’ve got it! Attenborough! Celebrates a national treasure and already sounds like a town name.

    Attenborough is a district in Beeston, on the edge of Nottingham - so there's an Attenborough rail station.

    Not an impediment - there are plenty of repeated place names in England. Bradford (Devon) used to confuse a popular dating site a couple of decades ago, making a bunch of confused people in West Yorkshire match with people in Exeter instead of those in Leeds.
    There’s quite a few of those around. Farnborough, Kent is a good one, except that there’s no airshow there; and a friend of mine once managed to miss a concert at Leeds Castle, which is 300 miles from the city of the same name.

    In the US there’s at least a couple of dozen Springvilles.
    I think you may be confused there are definitely 34 States with a Springfield (it’s why the Simpsons used the name as there was a local town with the name).
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,161
    eek said:

    You could have the build train station in more suitable location approach. Which gave us Amersham on the Hill (because the original village is in the valley below) and Beaconsfield Old Town (as they didn’t want to be associated with the new fangled bit),

    West Wycombe is another example - a village West of Wycombe.

    There are maps where Middlesbrough is called Port Darlington so that would work especially if the stream is suitably small

    So my approach would be take a town on a different motorway and add New, east or west to the name and see what happens. The place near Peterborough could be East (or West) Bath

    IN Yorkshire in 1895 a Unionist candidate criticised laissez faire by noting the railway station was a long way from the village.

    Back came the reply, 'Appen was near t'railway.'
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,654

    Nigelb said:

    The proposed names the Government is considering calling its new towns

    - Elizabethtown (after the Queen)
    - Pankhurst (after suffragette Emmeline)
    - Attleeton (after ex-PM)
    - Athelstan (first King of England)
    - Seacole (after nurse Mary)


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea09d6e1-85bc-4c2f-b24f-8999ef9b9006?shareToken=d69d8a19030b64732d1ebcaeee4c5a6e

    Naming towns after people is a bit naff.
    There are a lot of place names in England named after people: someone's field, or someone's village, etc, but the names are so old, and have been subtly corrupted, that we don't recognise them as such anymore.

    So it's a weird combination of being completely normal, and sounding really odd and lame.
    Suspect there's an analogue of Adam's Law of Technology here; any new name for a new town will sound wrong and artificial, because it wasn't there when we grew up.

    Maybe we should come at this the other way. Instead of commemorating anyone, get AI to generate 100 things that sound like British place names, focus group them to find the least obtrusive three, and then make up a story about them.

    Sort of like Lymeswold.
    You don't need to use AI. There are a whole bunch of place name generator tables used for RPGs. Just roll a few dice.

    I think that, with a bit of effort, you could generate a new place name by simulating the process many of our existing place names have gone through.

    So, take Æthelstan as an example. I'm sure if you asked an expert on Anglo-Saxon place names they could tell you that "Æthelstan's town" would probably have been something like "Æthelstan's burgh", which through centuries of usage would have been shortened to the more easily pronounced "Stanborough" or "Athelsbury". Job done.
    A bit like race horses, heavy metal bands or porn stars, just randomly combine words.

    Indeed just name the town for the W3W address of its centre. This also has the advantage that sozzled travel hacks can navigate there easily.
  • eekeek Posts: 32,967
    Oh I missed a really obvious example as well. Newton Aycliffe is a New Town built next to a village called Aycliffe (which is now Aycliffe village.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,608
    nico67 said:

    Starmer ends up in the worst of all worlds .

    Which seems to sum up his premiership !

    How so?

    He promised "defensive" support.

    This is defensive support is it not?
    IF it assists in opening up Strait Of Hormuz - it'll b a win win and definitely a win for UK fuel prices.

    It's not as if the RAF are involved and we are talking Fairford and Chagos!
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 35,429
    ydoethur said:

    Battlebus said:

    When facing Carlson, would you want to be in Rubio's shoes? Or even Vance's?

    I suspect little Marco is going to end up taking the blame for Iran.
    Certainly Vance will try to pin it on both Trump and Rubio.
    Hard to pin Iran on Rubio. The question is whether Rubio can now persuade Trump to attack Cuba as a distraction from the Middle East and to impress Rubio's constituents.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,213
    nico67 said:

    Starmer ends up in the worst of all worlds .

    Which seems to sum up his premiership !

    I don't see what much else he can do. Is telling the US they can't use their own bases at Fairford and Diego Garcia practical? Nonetheless if it accelerates his defenestration, more power to his elbow.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,161
    eek said:

    Oh I missed a really obvious example as well. Newton Aycliffe is a New Town built next to a village called Aycliffe (which is now Aycliffe village.

    If Gloucestershire goes for this new town of 8,000 people off junction 2 of the M50, they could call it 'Redmarley Newtown' to contrast with 'Redmarley D'Abitot.'
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,608

    Kemi Badenoch needs to fire Priti Patel.

    EXCLUSIVE: Tory ex-Home Secretary Priti Patel BLOCKED the FBI from quizzing Andrew over Epstein

    Priti Patel prevented the FBI from questioning Andrew about his links to the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, despite officers having 'documentary evidence suggesting he knew about sex trafficking'


    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-ex-home-secretary-priti-36901236

    She was right to block it.
    PRITTI PATEL will sack Badenoch

    PRITTI PATEL PULLS ALL THE STRINGS !

    If Kemi hasn't sacked Pritti Patel and Timothy Nick by Monday she is showling gutless cowadice!
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,711
    eek said:

    You could have the build train station in more suitable location approach. Which gave us Amersham on the Hill (because the original village is in the valley below) and Beaconsfield Old Town (as they didn’t want to be associated with the new fangled bit),

    West Wycombe is another example - a village West of Wycombe.

    There are maps where Middlesbrough is called Port Darlington so that would work especially if the stream is suitably small

    So my approach would be take a town on a different motorway and add New, east or west to the name and see what happens. The place near Peterborough could be East (or West) Bath

    Bedlington Station.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,353
    Brixian59 said:

    nico67 said:

    Starmer ends up in the worst of all worlds .

    Which seems to sum up his premiership !

    How so?

    He promised "defensive" support.

    This is defensive support is it not?
    IF it assists in opening up Strait Of Hormuz - it'll b a win win and definitely a win for UK fuel prices.

    It's not as if the RAF are involved and we are talking Fairford and Chagos!
    I expect the US was doing this anyway but public perception after seeing this splashed across the media isn’t great .

    It looks like an expansion even if it really isn’t .
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,608
    There is a new town adjacent to Poole being built called Barrymore
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,213
    ydoethur said:

    eek said:

    Oh I missed a really obvious example as well. Newton Aycliffe is a New Town built next to a village called Aycliffe (which is now Aycliffe village.

    If Gloucestershire goes for this new town of 8,000 people off junction 2 of the M50, they could call it 'Redmarley Newtown' to contrast with 'Redmarley D'Abitot.'
    And close by, Much Marcle could become Much Greater Marcle.
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