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  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 40,815
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,538
    Scott_xP said:

    @peark.es‬

    Putin offers to cut off intel to Iran if the US cuts off Ukraine.

    https://bsky.app/profile/peark.es/post/3mhitvmfvhk2g

    No brainer. That'll teach the cowards.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,625
    Meanwhile, Ukraine is taking out Russian helicopters with cheap loitering drones.

    https://x.com/usf_army/status/2034972662502465759

    The next war could look very different to the current one, let alone the last one.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,360
    https://x.com/john_hudson/status/2035014541101195614

    New report on the chasm between the US & Israel’s end game:
    “Israel is pursuing a scorched-earth campaign of regime change, which isn't our goal,” says senior admin official. “Bibi wants to wreck Iran’s economy & decimate its energy infrastructure. Trump wants to keep it intact”
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,541
    edited 3:56PM
    kinabalu said:

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    Commentary on here seem pretty quiet about the economic impact of the war in Iran.

    PB, too, has been successfully hijacked by Farage’s ability to set the media agenda.

    It's pretty simple.
    If the war isn't over soon, it's pretty likely the world economy will see an oil and gas shock without real precedent. It could make the 70s look like a blip.

    And the UK economy will be screwed for another decade (at least).

    If it's over by next week, then we might be fine.
    Or not.

    Trump casually threatens to use nuclear weapons to end the war "in two seconds" while sitting right next to the Prime Minister of Japan—the only country to ever suffer an atomic bombing. The host calls him a complete sociopath.
    https://x.com/FurkanGozukara/status/2034797512712753489

    Unusual take - the atomic bombs on Japan saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
    Is that an "Unusual take"?

    In the context that use of nuclear weapons is seen as horrific, I think it is.
    Hang on - justified or not it comfortably fits the category of horrific events in history.
    “Prometheus stole fire from the Gods and gave it to Man. For this, he was chained to a rock and tortured for Eternity.”
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,824
    Battlebus said:

    The King's visit must be off now. Calling our military "cowards" is the ultimate insult to our military's leader. Trump must know the effect it will have and probably doesn't care.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ce84073mr06t

    I doubt Trump would be that bothered anyway now if one of King George III's descendants boycotts the US independence anniversary celebrations he will host as President of the US Republic
  • eekeek Posts: 32,954

    https://x.com/john_hudson/status/2035014541101195614

    New report on the chasm between the US & Israel’s end game:
    “Israel is pursuing a scorched-earth campaign of regime change, which isn't our goal,” says senior admin official. “Bibi wants to wreck Iran’s economy & decimate its energy infrastructure. Trump wants to keep it intact”

    Trump really should have checked what Israel's end game was before joining in.

    I wonder when it will dawn on him that he isn't going to be remembered the way he wanted to be...
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,824

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Sean_F said:

    HYUFD said:

    Sean_F said:

    nico67 said:

    Let us not forget that every time inflation spikes, the pensioners are given a budget-destroying increase under the triple lock.

    If the Government have any sense they will finally axe that now, as they should have done after the last election which they won without the grey vote.

    So they won't.
    You still need some grey vote to get elected .

    Unless there’s a cross party agreement to get rid of the triple lock then I don’t see it going anytime soon .
    There’s no point being in government, if you can’t take a decision some people will not like. The triple lock has to go.
    Politically risky, 65% of voters overall want to definitely or probably keep the triple lock, just 11% to scrap it.

    Even 38% of Labour voters definitely want to keep the triple lock and 42% of UK voters overall want to definitely keep the triple lock

    https://yougov.com/en-gb/daily-results/20250709-b3999-1
    People want lots of things that are unwise, unaffordable, or unattainable. Sometimes, leadership means saying “I want, doesn’t get.”
    Not if it means political suicide, Labour might be able to get away with means testing the triple lock but not scrapping it altogether
    They will have no choice and many more unpopular decisions beckon

    The days of overborrowing and overspending are simply over
    They do, Starmer would be dumped for Rayner in 5 minutes if he tried scrapping the triple lock with Reeves and he knows it, no political leader could get away with it except maybe Polanski as most of his voters are under 35. However like Corbyn the Greens are pledged to keep the triple lock and will just hammer the rich and business and high earners with tax instead to pay for it
    You need to wake up

    Everybody is going to be poorer and that is across society

    I am not even thinking of labour's internal battles -10 year gilts are closing in on 5.00 %

    https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/bond/tmbmkgb-10y?countrycode=bx

    Just take that on board
    It doesn't matter what gilts do, no Labour leader will commit political suicide by scrapping the triple lock, indeed no leader of any political party has said they will not increase the state pension at least in line with inflation
  • eekeek Posts: 32,954
    Sean_F said:
    In the playground you call someone a coward in the hope that it will change their mind and they join in.

    Outside of the playground it simply doesn't work - Iran is not our war and we should be emphasising that it's Trump's mess to fix..
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,538

    Eabhal said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    He's awake, and madder than ever

    @atrupar.com‬

    Trump: "Without USA, NATO IS A PAPER TIGER! Now that the fight is Militarily WON, with very little danger for them, they complain about high oil prices they are forced to pay, but don’t want to help open the Strait of Hormuz. So easy for them to do, with so little risk. COWARDS, & we will REMEMBER!"

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mhinpcqxbc2s

    If its really easy with no risk why don't the US just get on with it themselves? Who do you think you are kidding Mr Trump?
    Arguably the US is the biggest geopolitical beneficiary of major economic disruption. They are unusually self-sufficient.
    High oil prices are really good for energy companies in Texas, but they don't do much for the denizens of Detroit.
    It must be a very small list of countries that benefit overall from an oil/gas crisis. And a number of those can't now export them anyway.
    I assume Norway is doing very well.
    One or two countries making hay while the world suffers reminds me of that Vincent Price film The Masque of the Red Death. He gets his chips eventually. Can't keep the horror at bay. It seeps in.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,772
    I was just commenting how fortunate our daughter is to have completed her divorce [ amicable], sold the family home and bought her own home close to us all before this happened..

    The prospects for the house market must be dire especially if we see sustained and prolonged interest rate rises together with increased energy, food and living costs

    I really do not think the public have woken up yet to just how serious this is
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,957

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  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 15,500


    The hatred of Muslims seals up 99% of the Indian vote for Reform.

    India is only 80% Hindu, Little Miss Angry.
    I didn’t mean actual India. The UK dispora.

    Indians don’t really like Pakistan very much do they?
    It's Afghanistan at war with Pakistan?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Afghanistan–Pakistan_conflict
    I have the impression India and Pakistan shelling each other on a weekly if not Daily basis.

    When you look at it, neighbours are not very neighbourly. India Pakistan, Greece Turkey, Scotland Ireland Wales v England. The bad bit is lives of minorities - not just “no dogs and no Irish” signs in windows when looking for a bed for the night, but gunman who have murdered minorities being installed as President’s and Prime Ministers.

    Why can’t people love their neighbours and love their minorities?
    Sultan Ahmad Baheen, former Afghan ambassador to China, suggested that the Pakistani attacks coincided with the 2026 Iran war to minimize international attention on the airstrikes. He claimed that "Pakistan does not want a fully stable and independent Afghanistan" in the long term, but rather a political landscape in Kabul that remains dependent on Islamabad.
    You’ve clearly letting your bias show.

    When are you signing up 😆
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,278
    Sean_F said:
    A depraved and possibly dying old dotard with no moral sense is cultivating a sense of grievance. This is not going to end well, although old bone spurs couldn't really be less prepared for a successful war, he is still able to cause planet level chaos. We will need to keep very cool heads to stop this turning into a total catastrophe.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,596

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Sean_F said:

    HYUFD said:

    Sean_F said:

    nico67 said:

    Let us not forget that every time inflation spikes, the pensioners are given a budget-destroying increase under the triple lock.

    If the Government have any sense they will finally axe that now, as they should have done after the last election which they won without the grey vote.

    So they won't.
    You still need some grey vote to get elected .

    Unless there’s a cross party agreement to get rid of the triple lock then I don’t see it going anytime soon .
    There’s no point being in government, if you can’t take a decision some people will not like. The triple lock has to go.
    Politically risky, 65% of voters overall want to definitely or probably keep the triple lock, just 11% to scrap it.

    Even 38% of Labour voters definitely want to keep the triple lock and 42% of UK voters overall want to definitely keep the triple lock

    https://yougov.com/en-gb/daily-results/20250709-b3999-1
    People want lots of things that are unwise, unaffordable, or unattainable. Sometimes, leadership means saying “I want, doesn’t get.”
    Not if it means political suicide, Labour might be able to get away with means testing the triple lock but not scrapping it altogether
    They will have no choice and many more unpopular decisions beckon

    The days of overborrowing and overspending are simply over
    They do, Starmer would be dumped for Rayner in 5 minutes if he tried scrapping the triple lock with Reeves and he knows it, no political leader could get away with it except maybe Polanski as most of his voters are under 35. However like Corbyn the Greens are pledged to keep the triple lock and will just hammer the rich and business and high earners with tax instead to pay for it
    You need to wake up

    Everybody is going to be poorer and that is across society

    I am not even thinking of labour's internal battles -10 year gilts are closing in on 5.00 %

    https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/bond/tmbmkgb-10y?countrycode=bx

    Just take that on board
    Your rather pathetic sense of glee has a sniff of nausea.

    How long before your blaming Rachel from Accounts.
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