Only a fifth of Britons oppose putting animals on the bank notes instead of Churchill

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Only a fifth of Britons oppose putting animals on the bank notes instead of Churchill– politicalbetting.com

With historical figures set to be replaced on banknotes with wildlife. How does voting intention vary by which animal people would most like to see on a bank note? ??Bambi fans must vote Labour as the party leads among those who fancy a deer on their cash.

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Sandpit

Happy St Patrick’s day to PB!

And with that I’ll be off, those half-price pints of Guinness at the local Irish pub aren’t going to drink themselves! Cheers.

HYUFD

So only Reform voters are more likely to oppose than support Churchill's image being replaced by a badger then. Even Churchill's granddaughter is not opposed

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/winston-churchills-granddaughter-dismisses-right-wing-fury-over-banknote-change-404024/

another_richard

The purpose of rabbits is to be eaten by more important animals.

Hares are the superior leporid.

wooliedyed

Rage, rage against the Unwinstoning of your banknote.
The 23% who want vermin foxes on notes can do one though

IanB2

So long as the squirrels on the bank notes are red - the ones who have been here for thousands of years, as Leon regularly reminds us.

Nigelb

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another_richard said:

Nigelb said:

Alanbrooke said:

Reeves says she will stop UK Tech drifting abroad.

So that's another piece of national prosperity fked

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0k16zdr1r1o

The government just announced billions of new funding for both fusion and quantum computing.
Which sounds fairly positive on that score.

The government announcing funding and funding actually happening are not the same thing:

A Guardian investigation has examined a series of massive AI investments announced by the government over the past two years, comparing what was promised with what has so far been delivered.

The investigation centres on two companies backed by the chipmaker Nvidia and central to the UK’s AI plans, Nscale and CoreWeave.

It has found that large, promised sums do not represent real investments into the UK’s economy, that new datacentres are not in fact new, and that a giant supercomputer set to be online later this year is still being used by a construction company in Essex.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/09/key-takeaways-on-ai-phantom-investments-uk

Yes, but that was promised US investment.

The fusion and quantum computing money is UK government funding.

ydoethur

How did I guess that TSE would make silly remarks about coins in a thread about notes?

He should really be campaigning for better punning opportunities. So, for example, should Scottish notes have thistles on them so when we accept them we can say "thistle do nicely?'

Or five pound notes feature heroic figures from the past, notably Lady Godiva? While ten pound notes could feature Wyn Evans. Recast the £20 note as £25 and have Valegro on the front of it.

Stuartinromford

So Reform voters are the outliers again- not just in their opposition, but in the intensity of their opposition.

One has to wonder how much it's a "it's happening under Starmer's government, so I strongly oppose it" reflex. Something that Kemi's Conservatives are too prone to doing as well.

Sean_F

Yougov have Reform 25%, Green 19%, Labour 18%, Con 17%, Lib Dem 14%

wooliedyed

Sean_F said:

Yougov have Reform 25%, Green 19%, Labour 18%, Con 17%, Lib Dem 14%

Labour 17% not 18%

another_richard

Nigelb said:

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another_richard said:

Nigelb said:

Alanbrooke said:

Reeves says she will stop UK Tech drifting abroad.

So that's another piece of national prosperity fked

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0k16zdr1r1o

The government just announced billions of new funding for both fusion and quantum computing.
Which sounds fairly positive on that score.

The government announcing funding and funding actually happening are not the same thing:

A Guardian investigation has examined a series of massive AI investments announced by the government over the past two years, comparing what was promised with what has so far been delivered.

The investigation centres on two companies backed by the chipmaker Nvidia and central to the UK’s AI plans, Nscale and CoreWeave.

It has found that large, promised sums do not represent real investments into the UK’s economy, that new datacentres are not in fact new, and that a giant supercomputer set to be online later this year is still being used by a construction company in Essex.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/09/key-takeaways-on-ai-phantom-investments-uk

Yes, but that was promised US investment.

The fusion and quantum computing money is UK government funding.

And how often does UK government funding achieve the results it was claimed it would ?

Still the lawyers and consultants will doubtless get even richer. Yet again.

TheScreamingEagles

ydoethur said:

How did I guess that TSE would make silly remarks about coins in a thread about notes?

He should really be campaigning for better punning opportunities. So, for example, should Scottish notes have thistles on them so when we accept them we can say "thistle do nicely?'

Or five pound notes feature heroic figures from the past, notably Lady Godiva? While ten pound notes could feature Wyn Evans. Recast the £20 note as £25 and have Valegro on the front of it.

https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2023/03/19/thistle-do-nicely-for-starmer/

ydoethur

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

AnneJGP

I think it's a pity to move away from the historical figures series but a wildlife series is as good as anything else. Given how infrequently a person actually looks at the picture anyway it hardly matters.

Good morning, everyone.

Eabhal

Rabbits?! This is a list of the least interesting list British fauna. And Hedwig was not a Barn Owl, FFS.

I'm sure this will be a vicious debate but I'd go for:

• Hare (mountain or brown)
  
• Grey seal (the dolphin murderer variety)
  
• Scottish Crossbill
  
• Basking Shark
  
• Natterjacks
  
• Horseshoe bats
  
• Caper/Wildcats
  
• Manx Shearwater
  

AnneJGP

wooliedyed said:

Rage, rage against the Unwinstoning of your banknote.
The 23% who want vermin foxes on notes can do one though

Did anyone write in rats?

wooliedyed

Wayne Rooney banging that granny would make a good fiver picture

AnneJGP

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

wooliedyed

AnneJGP said:

wooliedyed said:

Rage, rage against the Unwinstoning of your banknote.
The 23% who want vermin foxes on notes can do one though

Did anyone write in rats?

An excellent choice!

Pigeons, foxes and rats

AnneJGP

wooliedyed said:

Wayne Rooney banging that granny would make a good fiver picture

They might be able to raise quite a lot of money by selling off a spot for someone's personal picture.

ydoethur

AnneJGP said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

First issued 1745, demonetised 1945. Sample here (you need to scroll right to the bottom past the other old denominations).

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/withdrawn-banknotes

wooliedyed

AnneJGP said:

wooliedyed said:

Wayne Rooney banging that granny would make a good fiver picture

They might be able to raise quite a lot of money by selling off a spot for someone's personal picture.

Imagine if it was an ex? Ugh

Sean_F

AnneJGP said:

wooliedyed said:

Wayne Rooney banging that granny would make a good fiver picture

They might be able to raise quite a lot of money by selling off a spot for someone's personal picture.

It could be like that Walker’s crisps advert, with people nominating Harold Shipman or Peter Sutcliffe.

Malmesbury

AnneJGP said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/withdrawn-banknotes

They were…

ydoethur

wooliedyed said:

AnneJGP said:

wooliedyed said:

Wayne Rooney banging that granny would make a good fiver picture

They might be able to raise quite a lot of money by selling off a spot for someone's personal picture.

Imagine if it was an ex? Ugh

As Donald Trump's wives all said...

HYUFD

Sean_F said:

Yougov have Reform 25%, Green 19%, Labour 18%, Con 17%, Lib Dem 14%

Greens higher than other polls except FON, Reform lower though still ahead

Roger

FPT what passes for debate in the US. (It's interesting)

'Micro-penis Mark Levin is a real piece of work' says Megyn Kelly.......(It's not size it's what you do with it says Anna)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvMm5v1Qj4

TheScreamingEagles

ydoethur said:

AnneJGP said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

First issued 1745, demonetised 1945. Sample here (you need to scroll right to the bottom past the other old denominations).

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/withdrawn-banknotes

Having £1,000 banknotes would make me pro-cash, it'd be equivalent of my AMEX Centurion chargecard.

boulay

AnneJGP said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

We have £100 notes here but they don’t usually end up in cash machines so not used much unless you specifically ask for them at the bank. They were issued to celebrate the late Queen’s diamond Jubilee.

ydoethur

TheScreamingEagles said:

ydoethur said:

AnneJGP said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

First issued 1745, demonetised 1945. Sample here (you need to scroll right to the bottom past the other old denominations).

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/withdrawn-banknotes

Having £1,000 banknotes would make me pro-cash, it'd be equivalent of my AMEX Centurion chargecard.

Fun fact for you:

They were demonetised after the Allies found the Nazis had produced around £300 million of near-perfect fake notes, especially £5 notes, which they used to fund the theft and extortion of all Europe, plus enormous amounts of espionage activity (because people trusted the British pound rather more than the Reichsmark or their own local currencies). It was called Operation Bernhard. This was made materially easier by the fact the old notes were printed on one side of simple paper, and although they had watermarks they were not standard from note to note making them pretty much useless as a security measure.

As a result, the Bank of England had to hurriedly design new notes with some half-decent security features.

Taz

Eabhal said:

Rabbits?! This is a list of the least interesting list British fauna. And Hedwig was not a Barn Owl, FFS.

I'm sure this will be a vicious debate but I'd go for:

• Hare (mountain or brown)
  
• Grey seal (the dolphin murderer variety)
  
• Scottish Crossbill
  
• Basking Shark
  
• Natterjacks
  
• Horseshoe bats
  
• Caper/Wildcats
  
• Manx Shearwater
  

Eresus Niger, the ladybird spider. One of our most gorgeous spiders.

Either that or Dolomedes.

Selebian

AnneJGP said:

I think it's a pity to move away from the historical figures series but a wildlife series is as good as anything else. Given how infrequently a person actually looks at the picture anyway it hardly matters.

Good morning, everyone.

I look forward to being the manager of a hedgehog fund.

Taz

wooliedyed said:

Wayne Rooney banging that granny would make a good fiver picture

He’s good at something then.

You a fan of the GSC @Brixian59 ?

ydoethur

Selebian said:

AnneJGP said:

I think it's a pity to move away from the historical figures series but a wildlife series is as good as anything else. Given how infrequently a person actually looks at the picture anyway it hardly matters.

Good morning, everyone.

I look forward to being the manager of a hedgehog fund.

Hedgehogs annoy me.

Why can't they just share the hedge?

DavidL

another_richard said:

The purpose of rabbits is to be eaten by more important animals.

Hares are the superior leporid.

But, but Bright Eyes. And sundry Potter characters like Peter.

Selebian

Sean_F said:

AnneJGP said:

wooliedyed said:

Wayne Rooney banging that granny would make a good fiver picture

They might be able to raise quite a lot of money by selling off a spot for someone's personal picture.

It could be like that Walker’s crisps advert, with people nominating Harold Shipman or Peter Sutcliffe.

Banknotey McBanknoteface...

ydoethur

DavidL said:

another_richard said:

The purpose of rabbits is to be eaten by more important animals.

Hares are the superior leporid.

But, but Bright Eyes. And sundry Potter characters.

It took a moment to realise you meant Beatrix not Harry.

Brixian59

Taz said:

wooliedyed said:

Wayne Rooney banging that granny would make a good fiver picture

He’s good at something then.

You a fan of the GSC @Brixian59 ?

GSC?

DavidL

Roger said:

FPT what passes for debate in the US. (It's interesting)

'Micro-penis Mark Levin is a real piece of work' says Megyn Kelly.......(It's not size it's what you do with it says Anna)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvMm5v1Qj4

Maybe @Leon is more sophisticated than we appreciate.

Big_Ian

I don't really care so long as there are lots of pretty blacklight easter eggs on them, like the Scottish notes have.

AnneJGP

ydoethur said:

AnneJGP said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

First issued 1745, demonetised 1945. Sample here (you need to scroll right to the bottom past the other old denominations).

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/withdrawn-banknotes

Wow. Thank you. Ceased to be legal tender in 1945. No wonder the samples look tatty.

TheScreamingEagles

ydoethur said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

ydoethur said:

AnneJGP said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

First issued 1745, demonetised 1945. Sample here (you need to scroll right to the bottom past the other old denominations).

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/withdrawn-banknotes

Having £1,000 banknotes would make me pro-cash, it'd be equivalent of my AMEX Centurion chargecard.

Fun fact for you:

They were demonetised after the Allies found the Nazis had produced around £300 million of near-perfect fake notes, especially £5 notes, which they used to fund the theft and extortion of all Europe, plus enormous amounts of espionage activity (because people trusted the British pound rather more than the Reichsmark or their own local currencies). It was called Operation Bernhard. This was made materially easier by the fact the old notes were printed on one side of simple paper, and although they had watermarks they were not standard from note to note making them pretty much useless as a security measure.

As a result, the Bank of England had to hurriedly design new notes with some half-decent security features.

Further proof that cash is only used by criminals and Nazis.

DavidL

ydoethur said:

DavidL said:

another_richard said:

The purpose of rabbits is to be eaten by more important animals.

Hares are the superior leporid.

But, but Bright Eyes. And sundry Potter characters.

It took a moment to realise you meant Beatrix not Harry.

Hence the edit!

Malmesbury

This is all nonsense



Put a true leader on all the money.

See the greatest speech ever https://youtu.be/XEECxN5P1nw?si=hP-TdNZMizrkZ_RV

Theuniondivvie

boulay said:

AnneJGP said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

We have £100 notes here but they don’t usually end up in cash machines so not used much unless you specifically ask for them at the bank. They were issued to celebrate the late Queen’s diamond Jubilee.

One hundred and twenty thousandth of an Andrew pay off.
We have £100 notes up here, they do occasionally turn up over the counter. We're way ahead on the wild shit on banknotes thing: mackerel, bridges, castles.

Morris_Dancer

TheScreamingEagles said:

ydoethur said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

ydoethur said:

AnneJGP said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

First issued 1745, demonetised 1945. Sample here (you need to scroll right to the bottom past the other old denominations).

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/withdrawn-banknotes

Having £1,000 banknotes would make me pro-cash, it'd be equivalent of my AMEX Centurion chargecard.

Fun fact for you:

They were demonetised after the Allies found the Nazis had produced around £300 million of near-perfect fake notes, especially £5 notes, which they used to fund the theft and extortion of all Europe, plus enormous amounts of espionage activity (because people trusted the British pound rather more than the Reichsmark or their own local currencies). It was called Operation Bernhard. This was made materially easier by the fact the old notes were printed on one side of simple paper, and although they had watermarks they were not standard from note to note making them pretty much useless as a security measure.

As a result, the Bank of England had to hurriedly design new notes with some half-decent security features.

Further proof that cash is only used by criminals and Nazis.

Good morning, everyone.

You should be ashamed, Mr. Eagles, of your blatant numismatiphobia. Huzzah for hard currency!

ydoethur

TheScreamingEagles said:

ydoethur said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

ydoethur said:

AnneJGP said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

First issued 1745, demonetised 1945. Sample here (you need to scroll right to the bottom past the other old denominations).

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/withdrawn-banknotes

Having £1,000 banknotes would make me pro-cash, it'd be equivalent of my AMEX Centurion chargecard.

Fun fact for you:

They were demonetised after the Allies found the Nazis had produced around £300 million of near-perfect fake notes, especially £5 notes, which they used to fund the theft and extortion of all Europe, plus enormous amounts of espionage activity (because people trusted the British pound rather more than the Reichsmark or their own local currencies). It was called Operation Bernhard. This was made materially easier by the fact the old notes were printed on one side of simple paper, and although they had watermarks they were not standard from note to note making them pretty much useless as a security measure.

As a result, the Bank of England had to hurriedly design new notes with some half-decent security features.

Further proof that cash is only used by criminals and Nazis.

I thought Donald Trump preferred wire transfers?

ydoethur

Roger said:

FPT what passes for debate in the US. (It's interesting)

'Micro-penis Mark Levin is a real piece of work' says Megyn Kelly.......(It's not size it's what you do with it says Anna)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvMm5v1Qj4

Trump's undersized cock and its link to his increasingly bizarre actions sparks a mass debate.

Malmesbury

ydoethur said:

Selebian said:

AnneJGP said:

I think it's a pity to move away from the historical figures series but a wildlife series is as good as anything else. Given how infrequently a person actually looks at the picture anyway it hardly matters.

Good morning, everyone.

I look forward to being the manager of a hedgehog fund.

Hedgehogs annoy me.

Why can't they just share the hedge?

They are behind all the great evils.

South Sea Bubble - Hedgehogs
Great Depression - Hedgehogs
People named Piers - Hedgehogs

Nigelb

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

Take note that it's notaphilists whom you would excite.

ydoethur

Theuniondivvie said:

boulay said:

AnneJGP said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

We have £100 notes here but they don’t usually end up in cash machines so not used much unless you specifically ask for them at the bank. They were issued to celebrate the late Queen’s diamond Jubilee.

One hundred and twenty thousandth of an Andrew pay off.
We have £100 notes up here, they do occasionally turn up over the counter. We're way ahead on the wild shit on banknotes thing: mackerel, bridges, castles.

Dormice!

https://en.numista.com/219935

Theuniondivvie

ydoethur said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

ydoethur said:

AnneJGP said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

First issued 1745, demonetised 1945. Sample here (you need to scroll right to the bottom past the other old denominations).

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/withdrawn-banknotes

Having £1,000 banknotes would make me pro-cash, it'd be equivalent of my AMEX Centurion chargecard.

Fun fact for you:

They were demonetised after the Allies found the Nazis had produced around £300 million of near-perfect fake notes, especially £5 notes, which they used to fund the theft and extortion of all Europe, plus enormous amounts of espionage activity (because people trusted the British pound rather more than the Reichsmark or their own local currencies). It was called Operation Bernhard. This was made materially easier by the fact the old notes were printed on one side of simple paper, and although they had watermarks they were not standard from note to note making them pretty much useless as a security measure.

As a result, the Bank of England had to hurriedly design new notes with some half-decent security features.

Good tv series with Michael Elphick I recall.
Operation Bernhard features in the new Peaky Blinders film which I will not be bothering with.

TheScreamingEagles

Morris_Dancer said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

ydoethur said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

ydoethur said:

AnneJGP said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

First issued 1745, demonetised 1945. Sample here (you need to scroll right to the bottom past the other old denominations).

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/withdrawn-banknotes

Having £1,000 banknotes would make me pro-cash, it'd be equivalent of my AMEX Centurion chargecard.

Fun fact for you:

They were demonetised after the Allies found the Nazis had produced around £300 million of near-perfect fake notes, especially £5 notes, which they used to fund the theft and extortion of all Europe, plus enormous amounts of espionage activity (because people trusted the British pound rather more than the Reichsmark or their own local currencies). It was called Operation Bernhard. This was made materially easier by the fact the old notes were printed on one side of simple paper, and although they had watermarks they were not standard from note to note making them pretty much useless as a security measure.

As a result, the Bank of England had to hurriedly design new notes with some half-decent security features.

Further proof that cash is only used by criminals and Nazis.

Good morning, everyone.

You should be ashamed, Mr. Eagles, of your blatant numismatiphobia. Huzzah for hard currency!

Being serious for a moment, the reason I generally use cards to pay for everything is two main reasons

1) Cashback

2) Section 75 protection for purchases over £100 on credit cards.

ydoethur

Nigelb said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

Take note that it's notaphilists whom you would excite.

Whether he's called Phil or not I'm sure he'll get the horn.

DavidL

Theuniondivvie said:

boulay said:

AnneJGP said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

We have £100 notes here but they don’t usually end up in cash machines so not used much unless you specifically ask for them at the bank. They were issued to celebrate the late Queen’s diamond Jubilee.

One hundred and twenty thousandth of an Andrew pay off.
We have £100 notes up here, they do occasionally turn up over the counter. We're way ahead on the wild shit on banknotes thing: mackerel, bridges, castles.

Once again the private sector proves more innovative.

Morris_Dancer

TheScreamingEagles said:

Morris_Dancer said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

ydoethur said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

ydoethur said:

AnneJGP said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

First issued 1745, demonetised 1945. Sample here (you need to scroll right to the bottom past the other old denominations).

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/withdrawn-banknotes

Having £1,000 banknotes would make me pro-cash, it'd be equivalent of my AMEX Centurion chargecard.

Fun fact for you:

They were demonetised after the Allies found the Nazis had produced around £300 million of near-perfect fake notes, especially £5 notes, which they used to fund the theft and extortion of all Europe, plus enormous amounts of espionage activity (because people trusted the British pound rather more than the Reichsmark or their own local currencies). It was called Operation Bernhard. This was made materially easier by the fact the old notes were printed on one side of simple paper, and although they had watermarks they were not standard from note to note making them pretty much useless as a security measure.

As a result, the Bank of England had to hurriedly design new notes with some half-decent security features.

Further proof that cash is only used by criminals and Nazis.

Good morning, everyone.

You should be ashamed, Mr. Eagles, of your blatant numismatiphobia. Huzzah for hard currency!

Being serious for a moment, the reason I generally use cards to pay for everything is two main reasons

1) Cashback

2) Section 75 protection for purchases over £100 on credit cards.

Well, if we're being serious:

1) I like collecting variant coins, so tend to pay for smaller things in cash.

2) I also usually use a credit card online.

3) I do have real concerns about the risks of abolishing real money.

FF43

A reverse ferret on the banknotes?

AugustusCarp2

The decline in the use of coins in everyday life may be good for the NHS, but it's bad for primary school teachers. Mental arithmetic exercises using pounds and pennies, how much change, how many sweets for these coins etc. are now going the way of the rod, pole and perch.

Morris_Dancer

Some good news, UK-Ukraine defence pact:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c15xeyny73wo

ydoethur

FF43 said:

A reverse ferret on the banknotes?

Well, they might get a chicken out.

Morris_Dancer

AugustusCarp2 said:

The decline in the use of coins in everyday life may be good for the NHS, but it's bad for primary school teachers. Mental arithmetic exercises using pounds and pennies, how much change, how many sweets for these coins etc. are now going the way of the rod, pole and perch.

Mr. Carp, not just that, there's a very real difference in the 'weight' of money and spending when it's actually handing over twenty pound notes rather than typing on a screen.

Nigelb

DavidL said:

another_richard said:

The purpose of rabbits is to be eaten by more important animals.

Hares are the superior leporid.

But, but Bright Eyes. And sundry Potter characters like Peter.

Of all the Potter characters, Ginger and Pickles deserve a spot on a bank note.
Their example is a salutary warning of the dangers of unlimited credit.

Theuniondivvie

The polish is quickly coming off ol' Merz who afaics seems to vacillate and reverse positions as much as Starmer.

Katja Hoyer
@hoyer_kat
·
9m
Merz is one of the most unpopular German chancellors ever. What's he done to lose trust? Nothing. That's the problem. Voters don't want strategic political caution. They want change. If Merz won't deliver it, they'll look elsewhere, I argue @Bloomberg
👇

https://x.com/hoyer_kat/status/2033829405085007934?s=20

wooliedyed

https://news.sky.com/story/voters-split-over-whether-starmer-is-handling-iran-war-well-13520603

As has been pointed out before, hes on the side of the public ref involvement but they are more likely to think hes handling it badly. Maybe thats allowing all the bombing from our bases he stopped them bombing from.

The public support help on oil but want much much more.

Suggests no appreciablec war bounce

Alphabet_Soup

FF43 said:

A reverse ferret on the banknotes?

Or perhaps a bucolic tableau of red squirrels welcoming grey squirrels to the wildwood.

DavidL

ydoethur said:

Theuniondivvie said:

boulay said:

AnneJGP said:

ydoethur said:

Other suggestions:

£50 notes should have a stag and a hind on them, so anything you buy with them is two deer.

We should bring back £1000 banknotes and have rhinos on them, both to honour the slang term for money from the eighteenth century and because it would give numismatists the horn.

One pound notes should be for 105 pence and have a certain type of fowl on them.

When did we have £1000 banknotes? I wasn't aware they were ever a thing.

We have £100 notes here but they don’t usually end up in cash machines so not used much unless you specifically ask for them at the bank. They were issued to celebrate the late Queen’s diamond Jubilee.

One hundred and twenty thousandth of an Andrew pay off.
We have £100 notes up here, they do occasionally turn up over the counter. We're way ahead on the wild shit on banknotes thing: mackerel, bridges, castles.

Dormice!

https://en.numista.com/219935

No it’s a harvest mouse. A wee sleekit cowerin’ timerous beastie to be exact.

Nigelb

FF43 said:

A reverse ferret on the banknotes?

And an obverse ferret on the coins.

DavidL

Nigelb said:

DavidL said:

another_richard said:

The purpose of rabbits is to be eaten by more important animals.

Hares are the superior leporid.

But, but Bright Eyes. And sundry Potter characters like Peter.

Of all the Potter characters, Ginger and Pickles deserve a spot on a bank note.
Their example is a salutary warning of the dangers of unlimited credit.

Controversial. Surely that is government policy (and not just of this government to be fair)?

DavidL

Morris_Dancer said:

Some good news, UK-Ukraine defence pact:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c15xeyny73wo

Probably the most important contribution that Starmer will ever make to our defence capabilities.

Roger

Morris_Dancer said:

Some good news, UK-Ukraine defence pact:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c15xeyny73wo

If Zelenski has the available capacity to help the US and Israel in their illegal invasion they shouldn't be surprised if the public lose interest in spending their money supporting Zelenski.

Nigelb

DavidL said:

Nigelb said:

DavidL said:

another_richard said:

The purpose of rabbits is to be eaten by more important animals.

Hares are the superior leporid.

But, but Bright Eyes. And sundry Potter characters like Peter.

Of all the Potter characters, Ginger and Pickles deserve a spot on a bank note.
Their example is a salutary warning of the dangers of unlimited credit.

Controversial. Surely that is government policy (and not just of this government to be fair)?

I thought you were of the Tabitha Twitchit tendency ?

Sean_F

Roger said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Some good news, UK-Ukraine defence pact:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c15xeyny73wo

If Zelenski has the available capacity to help the US and Israel in their illegal invasion they shouldn't be surprised if the public lose interest in spending their money supporting Zelenski.

Iran has supplied 60,000 drones to Russia. I think Ukraine is entitled to retaliate.

Nigelb

I have a feeling that's a phrase he's used several times before.

"It's Little Unfair" of Iran to Fight Back.
-Donald Trump
https://x.com/hippyygoat/status/2033647783899500577

DavidL

Nigelb said:

DavidL said:

Nigelb said:

DavidL said:

another_richard said:

The purpose of rabbits is to be eaten by more important animals.

Hares are the superior leporid.

But, but Bright Eyes. And sundry Potter characters like Peter.

Of all the Potter characters, Ginger and Pickles deserve a spot on a bank note.
Their example is a salutary warning of the dangers of unlimited credit.

Controversial. Surely that is government policy (and not just of this government to be fair)?

I thought you were of the Tabitha Twitchit tendency ?

Nah, I learned a long time ago to laugh at the absurdities and vicissitudes of life. Crying gets you nowhere.

Mexicanpete

Theuniondivvie said:

The polish is quickly coming off ol' Merz who afaics seems to vacillate and reverse positions as much as Starmer.

Katja Hoyer
@hoyer_kat
·
9m
Merz is one of the most unpopular German chancellors ever. What's he done to lose trust? Nothing. That's the problem. Voters don't want strategic political caution. They want change. If Merz won't deliver it, they'll look elsewhere, I argue @Bloomberg
👇

https://x.com/hoyer_kat/status/2033829405085007934?s=20

You could substitute the word Merz for Starmer too.

At least Zack is heading to the top of the opinion polls. Some undiluted Marxist student politics government would be welcome in this World of Trumpian insanity.

stodge

Morning all

A week on and already $100 oil seems just to be a thing - I wonder if we'll be thinking that in a month or two.

On topic - a misstep by Ed Davey if I'm honest. It's not an issue about which to get excited - I don't care, the value of money will always be more better than what is on the notes and coins.

As a Lib Dem supporter, I'm worried "noises off" are prompting him to feel he needs to get an improved public profile and to respond to anything and everything - that might be okay for a rent-a-quote Government or Opposition backbencher but leaders need to pick their ground better. I do think he's done better on opposing Trump and there's a constituency (72 if not more) who will probably support that.

I'm also interested in what's happening to Merz - he too is learning the toughest lesson of politics and leadership. Sometimes it doesn't matter if you're doing the right thing because frightened, angry people will always say you're doing the wrong thing.

I'm in a minority here (as usual) - I think Starmer is doing reasonably well - but the problem is the contempt is so embedded among some it will always come out as opposition. Even when Starmer gets it right, plenty will say he's getting it wrong and that's probably going to be the case to the minute he leaves 10 Downing Street and some will be still having a go as his car reaches the Palace.

Barnesian

wooliedyed said:

Rage, rage against the Unwinstoning of your banknote.
The 23% who want vermin foxes on notes can do one though

Foxes aren't vermin

Mexicanpete

Anyhoo. Where's Bibi?

Nigelb

DavidL said:

Nigelb said:

DavidL said:

Nigelb said:

DavidL said:

another_richard said:

The purpose of rabbits is to be eaten by more important animals.

Hares are the superior leporid.

But, but Bright Eyes. And sundry Potter characters like Peter.

Of all the Potter characters, Ginger and Pickles deserve a spot on a bank note.
Their example is a salutary warning of the dangers of unlimited credit.

Controversial. Surely that is government policy (and not just of this government to be fair)?

I thought you were of the Tabitha Twitchit tendency ?

Nah, I learned a long time ago to laugh at the absurdities and vicissitudes of life. Crying gets you nowhere.

No crying - she made bank when Ginger and Pickles went bust.
Beatrix Potter was a substantial economist.

Brixian59

Mexicanpete said:

Anyhoo. Where's Bibi?

Dead hopefully

HYUFD

Mexicanpete said:

Theuniondivvie said:

The polish is quickly coming off ol' Merz who afaics seems to vacillate and reverse positions as much as Starmer.

Katja Hoyer
@hoyer_kat
·
9m
Merz is one of the most unpopular German chancellors ever. What's he done to lose trust? Nothing. That's the problem. Voters don't want strategic political caution. They want change. If Merz won't deliver it, they'll look elsewhere, I argue @Bloomberg
👇

https://x.com/hoyer_kat/status/2033829405085007934?s=20

You could substitute the word Merz for Starmer too.

At least Zack is heading to the top of the opinion polls. Some undiluted Marxist student politics government would be welcome in this World of Trumpian insanity.

No he isn't, Reform still lead the polls and Polanski is still polling well below what Corbyn got

Nigelb

Barnesian said:

wooliedyed said:

Rage, rage against the Unwinstoning of your banknote.
The 23% who want vermin foxes on notes can do one though

Foxes aren't vermin

Maybe not, but they've made a right mess of my garden.

HYUFD

Theuniondivvie said:

The polish is quickly coming off ol' Merz who afaics seems to vacillate and reverse positions as much as Starmer.

Katja Hoyer
@hoyer_kat
·
9m
Merz is one of the most unpopular German chancellors ever. What's he done to lose trust? Nothing. That's the problem. Voters don't want strategic political caution. They want change. If Merz won't deliver it, they'll look elsewhere, I argue @Bloomberg
👇

https://x.com/hoyer_kat/status/2033829405085007934?s=20

Yet the CDU still lead most polls with the SPD a poor third behind the AfD.

Merz's position is sensible and he is heading for re election as Chancellor comfortably

Pulpstar

Surely a bat should be on one (Or a hundred million) of the notes flying through an HS2 bat tunnel.

bondegezou

FPT...

Luckyguy1983 said:

bondegezou said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

Reeves says she will stop UK Tech drifting abroad.

So that's another piece of national prosperity fked

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0k16zdr1r1o

As the article notes one of the attractions abroad is tax breaks. Here, Reeves thinks the government spending more money is the solution. It is the problem in a nutshell.

She also thinks the EU is the key to our well being. Though how taking on an additional 19000 pieces of regulation is going to help escapes me.

The woman couldnt spell IQ

To simplify, British companies currently have to follow 19000 pieces of UK regulation, but if they then want expand into Europe, they have to follow another 19000 pieces of EU regulation. Better then to just align the regulation, so there’s only one set of regulations.

Regularity alignment would simply force us to be as uncompetitive as the EU. I grant you we're currently there anyway, but there's always a chance of a Government coming in that actually wants the country to succeed.

I work with digital health start-ups. I write papers on digital health regulation. The companies I know want regulatory alignment. They want easy access to bigger markets. They accept the need for regulation in a safety-critical, health context, but they want clarity: they want to know what they need to do. They also want the promise of a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow: that is, if they jump through the hoops, there will be a reward. The UK going it alone on regulations is not top of their list.

Mexicanpete

Brixian59 said:

Mexicanpete said:

Anyhoo. Where's Bibi?

Dead hopefully

Well that's t'internet rumour. Six fingers, no teeth, then teeth. One would have thought Mossad AI would be top drawer.

Mexicanpete

HYUFD said:

Mexicanpete said:

Theuniondivvie said:

The polish is quickly coming off ol' Merz who afaics seems to vacillate and reverse positions as much as Starmer.

Katja Hoyer
@hoyer_kat
·
9m
Merz is one of the most unpopular German chancellors ever. What's he done to lose trust? Nothing. That's the problem. Voters don't want strategic political caution. They want change. If Merz won't deliver it, they'll look elsewhere, I argue @Bloomberg
👇

https://x.com/hoyer_kat/status/2033829405085007934?s=20

You could substitute the word Merz for Starmer too.

At least Zack is heading to the top of the opinion polls. Some undiluted Marxist student politics government would be welcome in this World of Trumpian insanity.

No he isn't, Reform still lead the polls and Polanski is still polling well below what Corbyn got

I said "heading to the top". Reform look like they are in freefall. The Trump factor?

Nigelb

bondegezou said:

FPT...

Luckyguy1983 said:

bondegezou said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

Reeves says she will stop UK Tech drifting abroad.

So that's another piece of national prosperity fked

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0k16zdr1r1o

As the article notes one of the attractions abroad is tax breaks. Here, Reeves thinks the government spending more money is the solution. It is the problem in a nutshell.

She also thinks the EU is the key to our well being. Though how taking on an additional 19000 pieces of regulation is going to help escapes me.

The woman couldnt spell IQ

To simplify, British companies currently have to follow 19000 pieces of UK regulation, but if they then want expand into Europe, they have to follow another 19000 pieces of EU regulation. Better then to just align the regulation, so there’s only one set of regulations.

Regularity alignment would simply force us to be as uncompetitive as the EU. I grant you we're currently there anyway, but there's always a chance of a Government coming in that actually wants the country to succeed.

I work with digital health start-ups. I write papers on digital health regulation. The companies I know want regulatory alignment. They want easy access to bigger markets. They accept the need for regulation in a safety-critical, health context, but they want clarity: they want to know what they need to do. They also want the promise of a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow: that is, if they jump through the hoops, there will be a reward. The UK going it alone on regulations is not top of their list.

Similarly, I think, with biopharma.
Those arguing Brexit was good for the industry are bonkers.

bondegezou

FPT...

Sandpit said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

bondegezou said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

Reeves says she will stop UK Tech drifting abroad.

So that's another piece of national prosperity fked

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0k16zdr1r1o

As the article notes one of the attractions abroad is tax breaks. Here, Reeves thinks the government spending more money is the solution. It is the problem in a nutshell.

She also thinks the EU is the key to our well being. Though how taking on an additional 19000 pieces of regulation is going to help escapes me.

The woman couldnt spell IQ

To simplify, British companies currently have to follow 19000 pieces of UK regulation, but if they then want expand into Europe, they have to follow another 19000 pieces of EU regulation. Better then to just align the regulation, so there’s only one set of regulations.

Regularity alignment would simply force us to be as uncompetitive as the EU. I grant you we're currently there anyway, but there's always a chance of a Government coming in that actually wants the country to succeed.

Signing up to unknown future EU legislation is absolutely the worst possible option, because every single piece of it will be framed inside the EU as “how we can we use this new law to screw the British?”

Meanwhile most of the British political class will enjoy being screwed, because to them more EU is ideology over pragmatism.

This is just a bizarre paranoia. There is one global power out there who has been very explicitly trying to screw us in recent months, and that's the US under Trump. We have good relationships with the EU and the EU understands that both sides can win from easing trade barriers, e.g. through regulatory alignment.

ydoethur

Nigelb said:

bondegezou said:

FPT...

Luckyguy1983 said:

bondegezou said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

Reeves says she will stop UK Tech drifting abroad.

So that's another piece of national prosperity fked

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0k16zdr1r1o

As the article notes one of the attractions abroad is tax breaks. Here, Reeves thinks the government spending more money is the solution. It is the problem in a nutshell.

She also thinks the EU is the key to our well being. Though how taking on an additional 19000 pieces of regulation is going to help escapes me.

The woman couldnt spell IQ

To simplify, British companies currently have to follow 19000 pieces of UK regulation, but if they then want expand into Europe, they have to follow another 19000 pieces of EU regulation. Better then to just align the regulation, so there’s only one set of regulations.

Regularity alignment would simply force us to be as uncompetitive as the EU. I grant you we're currently there anyway, but there's always a chance of a Government coming in that actually wants the country to succeed.

I work with digital health start-ups. I write papers on digital health regulation. The companies I know want regulatory alignment. They want easy access to bigger markets. They accept the need for regulation in a safety-critical, health context, but they want clarity: they want to know what they need to do. They also want the promise of a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow: that is, if they jump through the hoops, there will be a reward. The UK going it alone on regulations is not top of their list.

Similarly, I think, with biopharma.
Those arguing Brexit was good for the industry are bonkers.

Well, Johnson was certainly a bonker. Well known for it.

Nigelb

But enough of the nattering nabobs of negativity.

https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2033499266715369549
Prior to 2026 the UK had never minted a Unicorn in Defence.

It has now minted two in two months.

One of them hasn't even announced it publicly.

The first is UK-Ukrainian UFORCE, which develops autonomous systems across air, sea and land, and has supported more than 150,000 missions during the war in Ukraine.

It has just raised a $50m seed at a $1bn+ valuation.

The second is
@roark_aerospace
. The company intentionally keeps an incredibly low profile and chose not to announce its recent $210m Series B.

It did $197m of revenue last year and is on track to do $400m this year.

It is great to see the UK finally waking up to the need to build and back defence companies.

wooliedyed

stodge said:

Morning all

I'm in a minority here (as usual) - I think Starmer is doing reasonably well - but the problem is the contempt is so embedded among some it will always come out as opposition. Even when Starmer gets it right, plenty will say he's getting it wrong and that's probably going to be the case to the minute he leaves 10 Downing Street and some will be still having a go as his car reaches the Palace.

Clipped for reply....
Ive never liked him and i know im a bit of a waspish wasp, however to explain where i think the contempt comes from....
There is zero accountability with him. Nothing ever crosses his desk, nothing is his fault. Or, worse, he says 'i take responsibility' (mandy appointment) and then has his CoS removed and says the "process' wasnt robust enough. Then follow a more robust one! If theres a rickety bridge over a gorge with no handrail you dont just assume its safe because 'thats the process for crossing'
Nothing crosses his desk, everything is a chance to talk about his alleged hardships, everybody else pays and process trumps all, even results.
His inability to deal with problems because he has to follow process will be his epitaph. He will walk to his own political demise because there was a signpost telling him he must

bondegezou

FPT...

Sandpit said:

Nigelb said:

Alanbrooke said:

Reeves says she will stop UK Tech drifting abroad.

So that's another piece of national prosperity fked

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0k16zdr1r1o

The government just announced billions of new funding for both fusion and quantum computing.
Which sounds fairly positive on that score.

Do nuclear fusion and quantum computing not both require massive amounts of energy?

The single biggest thing the government could be doing right now is lowering the price of energy, but instead there’s Ed Miliband.

The point of nuclear fusion is ultimately to generate energy. Cheap energy prices makes fusion power development less attractive.

A quantum computer will do a number on your energy bill, but should, in the long run, be cheaper than conventional supercomputers, so, no, relatively speaking, they do not require massive amounts of energy.

MattW

Barnesian said:

wooliedyed said:

Rage, rage against the Unwinstoning of your banknote.
The 23% who want vermin foxes on notes can do one though

Foxes aren't vermin

I tend to agree on the selections of animals - how bloody uninteresting.

Where are pine martens, stoats, lobsters ("a Peter") and the great Lurch that has been wandering the dark woodlands and blasted heaths of Nottinghamshire (we do have them) for 20,000 years making a ceaseless moaning noise - The Anderson. And of course the Hairy Beaver, beloved of fake journalists (but that is allegedly German).

I DEMAND A 30p NOTE !!!, so I can purchase Lemon Herberts one at a time.

Mexicanpete

HYUFD said:

Theuniondivvie said:

The polish is quickly coming off ol' Merz who afaics seems to vacillate and reverse positions as much as Starmer.

Katja Hoyer
@hoyer_kat
·
9m
Merz is one of the most unpopular German chancellors ever. What's he done to lose trust? Nothing. That's the problem. Voters don't want strategic political caution. They want change. If Merz won't deliver it, they'll look elsewhere, I argue @Bloomberg
👇

https://x.com/hoyer_kat/status/2033829405085007934?s=20

Yet the CDU still lead most polls with the SPD a poor third behind the AfD.

Merz's position is sensible and he is heading for re election as Chancellor comfortably

But the trend is not your friend.

Starmer was wildly unpopular by 5/7/24. It has taken Merz a little longer for the shine to come off.

MattW

bondegezou said:

FPT...

Luckyguy1983 said:

bondegezou said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

Reeves says she will stop UK Tech drifting abroad.

So that's another piece of national prosperity fked

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0k16zdr1r1o

As the article notes one of the attractions abroad is tax breaks. Here, Reeves thinks the government spending more money is the solution. It is the problem in a nutshell.

She also thinks the EU is the key to our well being. Though how taking on an additional 19000 pieces of regulation is going to help escapes me.

The woman couldnt spell IQ

To simplify, British companies currently have to follow 19000 pieces of UK regulation, but if they then want expand into Europe, they have to follow another 19000 pieces of EU regulation. Better then to just align the regulation, so there’s only one set of regulations.

Regularity alignment would simply force us to be as uncompetitive as the EU. I grant you we're currently there anyway, but there's always a chance of a Government coming in that actually wants the country to succeed.

I work with digital health start-ups. I write papers on digital health regulation. The companies I know want regulatory alignment. They want easy access to bigger markets. They accept the need for regulation in a safety-critical, health context, but they want clarity: they want to know what they need to do. They also want the promise of a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow: that is, if they jump through the hoops, there will be a reward. The UK going it alone on regulations is not top of their list.

Brexit Benefit? We get to write an entire extra set of regulations that nobody uses?

You clearly need to go into regulation writing.

Andy_JS

Mexicanpete said:

HYUFD said:

Mexicanpete said:

Theuniondivvie said:

The polish is quickly coming off ol' Merz who afaics seems to vacillate and reverse positions as much as Starmer.

Katja Hoyer
@hoyer_kat
·
9m
Merz is one of the most unpopular German chancellors ever. What's he done to lose trust? Nothing. That's the problem. Voters don't want strategic political caution. They want change. If Merz won't deliver it, they'll look elsewhere, I argue @Bloomberg
👇

https://x.com/hoyer_kat/status/2033829405085007934?s=20

You could substitute the word Merz for Starmer too.

At least Zack is heading to the top of the opinion polls. Some undiluted Marxist student politics government would be welcome in this World of Trumpian insanity.

No he isn't, Reform still lead the polls and Polanski is still polling well below what Corbyn got

I said "heading to the top". Reform look like they are in freefall. The Trump factor?

They've dropped only slightly, and most of that is probably due to losing support to Lowe's party.

wooliedyed

Barnesian said:

wooliedyed said:

Rage, rage against the Unwinstoning of your banknote.
The 23% who want vermin foxes on notes can do one though

Foxes aren't vermin

Not by DEFRA definition, no. But they are. They can sue me if i'm being bigotted about them.

Andy_JS

"PolliticsUK
@PolliticsUK
🚨 Westminster Voting Intention:

➡️ REF: 25% (+2)
🟢 GRN: 19% (=)
🌳 CON: 17% (-2)
🌹 LAB: 17% (=)
🔶 LDEM: 14% (=)

From
@YouGov

From 15th - 16th March
Changes with 10th March

*standard YouGov adjustments"

https://x.com/PolliticsUK/status/2033810027908092069

bondegezou

wooliedyed said:

Sean_F said:

Yougov have Reform 25%, Green 19%, Labour 18%, Con 17%, Lib Dem 14%

Labour 17% not 18%

Is the gap between first and fifth shrinking ever more? It's 11% here. It was 40% two years ago.