Trump: "I said, 'Why don't we just capture the ship? We could use it. Why did we sink them?' He said, 'It's more fun to sink them.' They like sinking them better."
It took Trump 10 days to create an energy crisis reminiscent of the 1970s, replace Ayatollah Khamenei with Ayatollah Khamenei, and weaken our alliances worldwide. He put American servicemembers in harm’s way, resulting in seven deaths. None of this made you safer or better off. https://x.com/CaptMarkKelly/status/2031072074114949516
Kelly is partially right, partially exaggerating and partially wrong.
We haven't got an energy crisis reminiscent of the 1970s (or even 2022) and Iran's military and power projection has taken another hammering.
Phil Stewart @phildstewart MORE - (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's administration is considering reducing oil sanctions on Russia to help cool a surge in global energy prices triggered by the U.S. and Israeli war on Iran, with an announcement possible as soon as Monday, according to three sources familiar with the planning.
Trump: "I said, 'Why don't we just capture the ship? We could use it. Why did we sink them?' He said, 'It's more fun to sink them.' They like sinking them better."
Are you finally recognising the fact that he's a sociopath, or just celebrating it ?
Good stuff on Hannah Fry regarding the US health insurance companies that Nigel Farage proposes to replace the NHS relying on AI algorithms for making life and death decisions to maximise profits.
I had no idea the old Glasgow Central Station was so magnificent. A beautiful Victorian pile
What a tragic loss. and even worse if Glasgow is now obliged to endure some modernist piece of shite
The city council must be FORCED to rebuild it, as it was, brick by brick
I wouldn't have had you down as a clinging-to-the-past type. I'd just have them rebuild it well, and perhaps not worry about all the disabled ramps and whatever else it is that handicaps them from doing so. Some of these locations represent art as much as functionality. (Although I'd be very keen that no actual artists should be involved (they know fuck all about art).
What? I've been ranting on about the awfulness of 90% of modern architecture since the PB Year Zero
Personally, I'd make architects and planners rebuild every single town they devastated from 1950-1990. With their bare hands. For no money. And if they are dead, make their kids do it. And their kids. And their kids, Unto the 9th generation. Also anyone leftwing
And rebuild the old building? The facade must live up to its ancestor (and that doesn't mean in any way the same) but otherwise let it rip. It was hardly a treasure if it had a vape shop.
Have you seen photos? It was majestic. A Scottish St Pancras
I don't know Glasgow well at all, been through said station only a couple of times, but I'm confused as to the extent of the damage. this article says -
"A fire broke out on the ground floor of a 19th-century commercial building around 3.46pm on Sunday, causing “enormous damage” and the loss of the building’s dome...Only the facade of the building at the corner of Gordon Street and Union Street has been left standing..."
It seems to from the graphic in that article that the major damage was limited to the historic building highlighted in orange at the corner of Gordon Street and Union Street, and the danger from that has caused the closure of the adjacent station? I could be wrong, but that seems massively inconvenient for Glaswegians, but not culturally catastrophic for the complex as a whole.
Ah, that's good to hear!
Thankyou. I have been misled - FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER - by people apparently over-reacting to this news on X, and claiming the whole shebang has gone. Clearly it's sad this other building is fried, but maybe they can rebuild that
As I get older I find I get MORE upset by the loss of beauty and heritage, and old stuff in general. I always expected I would care less and become more cynical. Tis not the case. Maybe it's because I'm an old git myself, so it's sublimated self preservation, but I think it is more accrued wisdom. As you age you realise how precious old things are - buildings, landscapes, rituals, even institutuons - and how easily they can be lost, or binned, only to be replaced with something much much worse
Presumably this is related to the way people become more conservative as they age. They literally see the need to CONSERVE
Apparently the trend of getting more conservative as they age is coming to an end - millenials are remaining left/liberal, by and large.
Which given more relaxed attitudes to sexuality, diet, and exercise, describes them.
Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 · 1h NEW: Rep. Kevin Kiley just announced that his decision to leave the Republican Party and register as an Independent will take effect immediately — further Mike Johnson's margins in the House.
War back on ! The market traders really don’t do themselves any favours .
My guess is that this war will go on for a very long time indeed.
Israel can hardly pull back and allow the Iranians to rebuild missiles and nuclear capability, and short of a ground war the Iranians won't mend their ways.
Trump will probably have to put troops on the ground to make the Hormuz straits safe - and that'll be no end of pain for all concerned.
Champagne all round in Moscow and FIFA HQs though.
It took Trump 10 days to create an energy crisis reminiscent of the 1970s, replace Ayatollah Khamenei with Ayatollah Khamenei, and weaken our alliances worldwide. He put American servicemembers in harm’s way, resulting in seven deaths. None of this made you safer or better off. https://x.com/CaptMarkKelly/status/2031072074114949516
Kelly is partially right, partially exaggerating and partially wrong.
We haven't got an energy crisis reminiscent of the 1970s (or even 2022) and Iran's military and power projection has taken another hammering.
Yes, it's hyperbole - not least because the US is far closer to self sufficiency in oil and gas (though "reminiscent" isn't the same thing as equivalent).
I like Kelly, but I don't think he's quite good enough to be the Democratic nominee in 2028.
The big unknown factor here is that at the time of the next general election Trump is very unlikely to be president. The positive and negative effects of this on Reform in particular would be interesting to investigate. There will also be new governments across various countries in Europe as well, which may have some influence, if a little less so.
(Knowing Starmer's luck, he will have detached us from the hated American sphere and rejoined the enlightened EU just in time to coincide with a progressive Democrat entering the White House and the National Rally taking power in Paris.)
Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 · 1h NEW: Rep. Kevin Kiley just announced that his decision to leave the Republican Party and register as an Independent will take effect immediately — further Mike Johnson's margins in the House.
Actually running as an Independent according to wiki, which is unusual - usually people just decide not to run again, but don't take any action against their own party and just bow out. So even if his run goes nowhere, that's interesting. Redistricting behind the calculation?
Pretty darn quick to get disillusioned with the national party though - he took office in 2023, what did he think he was walking into?
War back on ! The market traders really don’t do themselves any favours .
If I was being sceptical I would suggest Trump may be playing the markets for his gain
He'll announce something stupid soon about markets being too free and crypto being the future. Wars are far too unpredictable when you have alternatively the US treasury at your back for insider trading.
War back on ! The market traders really don’t do themselves any favours .
My guess is that this war will go on for a very long time indeed.
Israel can hardly pull back and allow the Iranians to rebuild missiles and nuclear capability, and short of a ground war the Iranians won't mend their ways.
Trump will probably have to put troops on the ground to make the Hormuz straits safe - and that'll be no end of pain for all concerned.
Champagne all round in Moscow and FIFA HQs though.
The IRGC says any Arab or European country that expels the ambassadors of Israel and the United States from its territory will, starting tomorrow, have full authority and freedom to pass through the Strait of Hormuz.
Trump: "I said, 'Why don't we just capture the ship? We could use it. Why did we sink them?' He said, 'It's more fun to sink them.' They like sinking them better."
Using a torpedo meant at least one pedo got fired by America.
Trump is farcical and stupid if he TACOs out now and ends the war prematurely before regime change. What a moron.
They have air supremacy, should be pressing on until the regime collapses.
But even before the first missiles fired by both sides scribed “in the name of God - death to the evil enemy” we discussed TACO, and you did agree, Iraq will hang over the objectives and operation - ultimately proving lack of seriousness in regime change?
Is failed State and ethnic war the worst of all outcomes from here - the outcome TACO is trying to avoid?
The regime surviving is the worst of all outcomes.
Failed state and civil war would be an improvement.
It’s unfair for you to call it TACO.
Electioneering Bibi has got what he wanted and needed. He has come from toast to re-elected with increased majority and even greater power. The Saudi’s and friends got what they wanted and needed - and the way that politics works there, probably all the bungs to Trump family got the US military involved.
In the shadows around Bibi and Trump - Iranian people rising up and over throwing the security forces and military? Long shot bonus. Achieve our mission and avoid ethnic war and failed state? Yes.
It’s unfair for you to call it TACO, and also a poor reading of what was in front of you. Regime change was always as much to do with you, yourself, projecting what you wanted, as it was any clear signal or operational set up they were serious about regime change. What did they actually give you, in convincing plans, consistent messaging, and a purely short term {2 month} air campaign, that convinced you they were serious?
The IRGC says any Arab or European country that expels the ambassadors of Israel and the United States from its territory will, starting tomorrow, have full authority and freedom to pass through the Strait of Hormuz.
I hate to agree with Trump on anything, but I wouldn’t believe the IRGC if they said that Johnson is a liar or Trump is a CSO.
This is not an offer I would be taking up, even apart from rubbing up the Button Mushroom the wrong way.
Trump: "I said, 'Why don't we just capture the ship? We could use it. Why did we sink them?' He said, 'It's more fun to sink them.' They like sinking them better."
Using a torpedo meant at least one pedo got fired by America.
He didn't deserve punishment, he deserved...gunishment!
Away from economic and political turmoil, the good news (for many) is Cheltenham starts tomorrow.
My third favourite meeting of the year (after Royal Ascot and York Ebor) and 50,000+ will descend on Prestbury Park for four days of quality eating and drinking with some horse racing added.
Three championship level races tomorrow. In the opening Supreme Novices Hurdle, I fancy OLD PARK STAR to give Nicky Henderson a good start to the meeting. In the Arkle Challenge Trophy, I'm against both the front two in the market and prefer KARGESE.
FInally, the Champion Hurdle and again I'm against the fancied runners. I think the front three in the market can all be opposed - it would be wonderful to see GOLDEN ACE retain her title but I think PONIROS is a stand out each way play at 16s.
Absolutely Stodge!
The War, it’s boring now. Even Trump bored of it. It’s time for The Festival! 🏇🏻
I’ll be back on in the morning with all tomorrow’s seven winners. Back out to the shed now, and then bed.
Away from economic and political turmoil, the good news (for many) is Cheltenham starts tomorrow.
My third favourite meeting of the year (after Royal Ascot and York Ebor) and 50,000+ will descend on Prestbury Park for four days of quality eating and drinking with some horse racing added.
Three championship level races tomorrow. In the opening Supreme Novices Hurdle, I fancy OLD PARK STAR to give Nicky Henderson a good start to the meeting. In the Arkle Challenge Trophy, I'm against both the front two in the market and prefer KARGESE.
FInally, the Champion Hurdle and again I'm against the fancied runners. I think the front three in the market can all be opposed - it would be wonderful to see GOLDEN ACE retain her title but I think PONIROS is a stand out each way play at 16s.
Absolutely Stodge!
The War, it’s boring now. Even Trump bored of it. It’s time for The Festival! 🏇🏻
I’ll be back on in the morning with all tomorrow’s seven winners. Back out to the shed now, and then bed.
🏇🏻 🏇🏻
One problem Trump has is that the stories are pointing to the fact Cuba could collapse within days / weeks and it won't be the main story due to Iran...
To have anyone on this site still be fans of Trump is mindboggling.
I don't know many Trumpers (not many I know are Trumpers at any rate), it can be important to see how such people think.
My shy Trumper acquaintance (the kind who clearly doesn't like the vulgarity but says Trump turns out to be right on most things) hasn't brought up the war, unsurprisingly, but more surprisingly neither has the proud Trumper acquaintance, so I've lost my usual partial insight into that world.
Just been watching the Ch4 Blair doc. All that debate and diplomacy before Iraq. UN resolutions, the sense of what Europe thinks being important, the agonising over legality. Different world. And despite ending up with a disastrous decision I'd say a better one.
Anyone know why Herman Munster attended the homecoming of bodies of US troops wearing a white cap.
Disrespectful scruffy twat
I think that's probably the answer.
Fairly obviously - he is paranoid about appearing to be balding. Hence the increasingly ludicrous combover hairstyle. Since air moving around rapidly is a feature of airbases, he was afraid not to wear his hat.
Just been watching the Ch4 Blair doc. All that debate and diplomacy before Iraq. UN resolutions, the sense of what Europe thinks being important, the agonising over legality. Different world. And despite ending up with a disastrous decision I'd say a better one.
At least there was a concern about how things were to be done.
It's like war crimes - they happen with all sides despite the rules they put in place, but if you just go full Russia and decide war crimes should be the main strategy it is definitely worse.
I suppose I do know quite a few Reform people so I probably know several more Trumpers than I realise through that, but even with Reform they aren't universally enamoured of the man.
Diversity is not our strength. If it were, politicians like Starmer wouldn't feel the need to say it. It is a load of bullshit. Mass immigration from Islamic countries has caused untold problems that wouldn't have existed without it.
“People are using the situation in Iran to divide communities. Diversity is our strength.” - Starmer
Diversity is not our strength. If it were, politicians like Starmer wouldn't feel the need to say it. It is a load of bullshit. Mass immigration from Islamic countries has caused untold problems that wouldn't have existed without it.
“People are using the situation in Iran to divide communities. Diversity is our strength.” - Starmer
To Nigel Farage, cutting council tax is raising it by 3%.
And people honestly think he’s not like every other politician? He’s as slippery as they come.
I've often wondered if being seen as just like most other politicians can be the kiss of doom for some politicians. It's a fine line to be perceived as different enough, without being too out there and no longer appealing to the masses who expect a certain look, feel, and sound from their political leaders. You need to be unique enough to stand out, but within an accepted range.
With Farage perhaps lining up a bunch of clapped out Tory retreads and those with frustrated ambitions makes him seem a little bit more...usual, than some of his supporters will like, although the hope would be it brings in more of the 'normal' folk instead.
Just been watching the Ch4 Blair doc. All that debate and diplomacy before Iraq. UN resolutions, the sense of what Europe thinks being important, the agonising over legality. Different world. And despite ending up with a disastrous decision I'd say a better one.
At least there was a concern about how things were to be done.
It's like war crimes - they happen with all sides despite the rules they put in place, but if you just go full Russia and decide war crimes should be the main strategy it is definitely worse.
Impunity is glorified now. We're definitely regressing.
To Nigel Farage, cutting council tax is raising it by 3%.
And people honestly think he’s not like every other politician? He’s as slippery as they come.
I've often wondered if being seen as just like most other politicians can be the kiss of doom for some politicians. It's a fine line to be perceived as different enough, without being too out there and no longer appealing to the masses who expect a certain look, feel, and sound from their political leaders. You need to be unique enough to stand out, but within an accepted range.
With Farage perhaps lining up a bunch of clapped out Tory retreads and those with frustrated ambitions makes him seem a little bit more...usual, than some of his supporters will like, although the hope would be it brings in more of the 'normal' folk instead.
Perhaps people crave a certain uniqueness though? Hence Boris' majority. And Jezza with the second highest Labour vote of the past 60 years. And then there's Trump. Someone who looks, feels and sounds different, but was actually competent at the job could be very electorally successful. Such as Thatcher?
To Nigel Farage, cutting council tax is raising it by 3%.
And people honestly think he’s not like every other politician? He’s as slippery as they come.
I've often wondered if being seen as just like most other politicians can be the kiss of doom for some politicians. It's a fine line to be perceived as different enough, without being too out there and no longer appealing to the masses who expect a certain look, feel, and sound from their political leaders. You need to be unique enough to stand out, but within an accepted range.
With Farage perhaps lining up a bunch of clapped out Tory retreads and those with frustrated ambitions makes him seem a little bit more...usual, than some of his supporters will like, although the hope would be it brings in more of the 'normal' folk instead.
Perhaps people crave a certain uniqueness though? Hence Boris' majority. And Jezza with the second highest Labour vote of the past 60 years. And then there's Trump. Someone who looks and sounds different, but was actually competent could be very electorally successful. Such as Thatcher?
I think kind of proves my point - Boris had a distinctive style but his political leanings were not that extreme within his party. Corbyn struck a chord with many people with his directness, his simplicity, his earnestness, but once he'd had more time his more unique elements did not aide him any longer (ok, that he never had unity in the party did not help).
Trump kind of goes against my point, because he is so unique and outthere but has managed to 100% capture the GOP to his personal whims, but I'm hoping it's a theory that just doesn't apply across the Atlantic.
To Nigel Farage, cutting council tax is raising it by 3%.
And people honestly think he’s not like every other politician? He’s as slippery as they come.
I've often wondered if being seen as just like most other politicians can be the kiss of doom for some politicians. It's a fine line to be perceived as different enough, without being too out there and no longer appealing to the masses who expect a certain look, feel, and sound from their political leaders. You need to be unique enough to stand out, but within an accepted range.
With Farage perhaps lining up a bunch of clapped out Tory retreads and those with frustrated ambitions makes him seem a little bit more...usual, than some of his supporters will like, although the hope would be it brings in more of the 'normal' folk instead.
Perhaps people crave a certain uniqueness though? Hence Boris' majority. And Jezza with the second highest Labour vote of the past 60 years. And then there's Trump. Someone who looks, feels and sounds different, but was actually competent at the job could be very electorally successful. Such as Thatcher?
People want charisma and competence, in my lifetime of PMs only Thatcher, Blair and at a push Cameron have really managed both. Starmer sad to say manages neither
He's rude, crude, selfish, bitter, vindictive, and insanely vainglorious. And that's not getting into personal and professional conduct.
Even if I liked the policies they supported I could not like such a person on an individual level, and I'm someone who would defend voting for a representative who was not an angel of personal morality if I thought they were doing the right things.
Reporter: A video appears to show a tomahawk missile likely destroyed that Iranian girls school. Will the US accept any responsibility?
Trump: I will say that the tomahawk is sold and used by other countries. And whether it's Iran who also has some tomahawks, they wish they had more, but whether it's Iran or somebody else, a tomahawk is very generic. That’s being investigated. https://x.com/Acyn/status/2031131478617444468
Are you asking for a justification as to why Trump is called "odious" or the psychology of his odiousness?
For the first question you just need to read the Trump entries in the Epstein Files and for the second question I suspect that it relates to his innate narcissism and sociopathy.
Reporter: A video appears to show a tomahawk missile likely destroyed that Iranian girls school. Will the US accept any responsibility?
Trump: I will say that the tomahawk is sold and used by other countries. And whether it's Iran who also has some tomahawks, they wish they had more, but whether it's Iran or somebody else, a tomahawk is very generic. That’s being investigated. https://x.com/Acyn/status/2031131478617444468
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We haven't got an energy crisis reminiscent of the 1970s (or even 2022) and Iran's military and power projection has taken another hammering.
Why should we pay for the BBC when we keep.getting ess but have to.pay more?
Give us the full library .
Aaron Rupar
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Trump: "We've already won in many ways, but we haven't won enough"
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2031114477647581194
Nothing can persuade them to make even the mildest critical statement about Putin
https://x.com/anneapplebaum/status/2030291682504110240
It is extraordinary. Trump has talked shit about or denigrated almost every leader you can think of at some point, from allies to enemies.
And yet his entire administration bends over backwards not to offend Putin.
Bi.
And Large.
(I thank you)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blYzc63wTU8
@kylegriffin1
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NEW: Rep. Kevin Kiley just announced that his decision to leave the Republican Party and register as an Independent will take effect immediately — further Mike Johnson's margins in the House.
https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/2031094118927958379
Israel can hardly pull back and allow the Iranians to rebuild missiles and nuclear capability, and short of a ground war the Iranians won't mend their ways.
Trump will probably have to put troops on the ground to make the Hormuz straits safe - and that'll be no end of pain for all concerned.
Champagne all round in Moscow and FIFA HQs though.
I like Kelly, but I don't think he's quite good enough to be the Democratic nominee in 2028.
(Knowing Starmer's luck, he will have detached us from the hated American sphere and rejoined the enlightened EU just in time to coincide with a progressive Democrat entering the White House and the National Rally taking power in Paris.)
Pretty darn quick to get disillusioned with the national party though - he took office in 2023, what did he think he was walking into?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojtaba_Khamenei
..His wife, his parents, and one of his sons were killed in the 2026 US–Israeli strikes, according to the Iranian government...
The IRGC says any Arab or European country that expels the ambassadors of Israel and the United States from its territory will, starting tomorrow, have full authority and freedom to pass through the Strait of Hormuz.
Fun fact:
Back in 1982, the only countries operating the Type 42 destroyer were the UK and... Argentina.
Disrespectful scruffy twat
Electioneering Bibi has got what he wanted and needed. He has come from toast to re-elected with increased majority and even greater power. The Saudi’s and friends got what they wanted and needed - and the way that politics works there, probably all the bungs to Trump family got the US military involved.
In the shadows around Bibi and Trump - Iranian people rising up and over throwing the security forces and military? Long shot bonus. Achieve our mission and avoid ethnic war and failed state? Yes.
It’s unfair for you to call it TACO, and also a poor reading of what was in front of you. Regime change was always as much to do with you, yourself, projecting what you wanted, as it was any clear signal or operational set up they were serious about regime change. What did they actually give you, in convincing plans, consistent messaging, and a purely short term {2 month} air campaign, that convinced you they were serious?
It’s unfair for you to call it TACO.
This is not an offer I would be taking up, even apart from rubbing up the Button Mushroom the wrong way.
https://youtu.be/pQCrcAFuI-E?si=E7AGtFV5BVtCCw5T&t=9274
The War, it’s boring now. Even Trump bored of it. It’s time for The Festival! 🏇🏻
I’ll be back on in the morning with all tomorrow’s seven winners. Back out to the shed now, and then bed.
🏇🏻 🏇🏻
My shy Trumper acquaintance (the kind who clearly doesn't like the vulgarity but says Trump turns out to be right on most things) hasn't brought up the war, unsurprisingly, but more surprisingly neither has the proud Trumper acquaintance, so I've lost my usual partial insight into that world.
Q: You said the war is 'very complete.' But your defense secretary says 'this is just the beginning.' So which is it?
TRUMP: You could say both
It's like war crimes - they happen with all sides despite the rules they put in place, but if you just go full Russia and decide war crimes should be the main strategy it is definitely worse.
“People are using the situation in Iran to divide communities. Diversity is our strength.” - Starmer
The man is a complete embarrassment.
https://x.com/Suffragent_/status/2030981525777396201?s=20
And people honestly think he’s not like every other politician? He’s as slippery as they come.
We were talking about racial vs cultural characteristics the other day.
One cultural stereotype that many do actually hold to, is the culturally specific style(s) of humour.
With Farage perhaps lining up a bunch of clapped out Tory retreads and those with frustrated ambitions makes him seem a little bit more...usual, than some of his supporters will like, although the hope would be it brings in more of the 'normal' folk instead.
Hence Boris' majority.
And Jezza with the second highest Labour vote of the past 60 years.
And then there's Trump.
Someone who looks, feels and sounds different, but was actually competent at the job could be very electorally successful.
Such as Thatcher?
Trump kind of goes against my point, because he is so unique and outthere but has managed to 100% capture the GOP to his personal whims, but I'm hoping it's a theory that just doesn't apply across the Atlantic.
He refused to leave his parish and his town, saying that the only weapons they carry are peace, love, and prayer.
Today, Father Pierre Al-Rai was killed by Israeli army artillery shelling.
https://x.com/IhabHassane/status/2031072179639464065
Even if I liked the policies they supported I could not like such a person on an individual level, and I'm someone who would defend voting for a representative who was not an angel of personal morality if I thought they were doing the right things.
I'm firmly in the nurture camp. I don't think people as newly born babies are hard coded for anything in terms of personality or character.
Reporter: A video appears to show a tomahawk missile likely destroyed that Iranian girls school. Will the US accept any responsibility?
Trump: I will say that the tomahawk is sold and used by other countries. And whether it's Iran who also has some tomahawks, they wish they had more, but whether it's Iran or somebody else, a tomahawk is very generic. That’s being investigated.
https://x.com/Acyn/status/2031131478617444468
For the first question you just need to read the Trump entries in the Epstein Files and for the second question I suspect that it relates to his innate narcissism and sociopathy.
EXCL: One in four settled status migrants from outside the EU are claiming benefits, analysis reveals.
It has led Tories to warn that Britain must not remain a “cash machine for the world”.
Not an American boy."