The ISA & Gulf states are turning to Ukraine to buy interceptor drones because they’re running out of air defence missiles. You’d think the USA would have learnt from watching how the war in Ukraine developed, but no: fuck around and find out is the order of the day.
(It’s likely that the Ministry of War / Defence told Hegseth & Trump that this would happen & the idiots went ahead regardless.)
The obvious question arises: Will JD Vance say thank you?
No-one who’s actually living here with a regular job has any interest in leaving.
How do the actual locals (foreign and otherwise) feel about influencer types? Presumably they are only a small number, and it's meant to be a place for people to visit, but they are supremely annoying poseurs.
A police force which spent £34,300 buying electric tuk-tuks to help fight crime sold them after just two years - at a £28,350 loss.
Gwent Police bought the four three-wheelers using a Home Office fund to patrol parts of Newport and Abergavenny in 2022, and also to be used as safe spaces where crimes could be reported. But in June 2024 they went out of service and later that year were sold for £5,950 in total, a Freedom of Information request has found.
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
It's not, but nobody's suggesting we support Iranian regime in its slaughter.
No-one who’s actually living here with a regular job has any interest in leaving.
How do the actual locals (foreign and otherwise) feel about influencer types? Presumably they are only a small number, and it's meant to be a place for people to visit, but they are supremely annoying poseurs.
Yes they’re a very small number, and on a very general basis those encouraging inbound tourism are good for the economy.
Which doesn’t mean that they can’t come across as total aresholes in a time of crisis, especially those who flaunt ‘wealth’ as their MO.
One of the funniest things I ever saw here was a woman who had 10 changes of outfit on the beach, in the space of about three hours. She’d either bought one night in the nice hotel (£300) or bought a day pass to the beach (£60ish), but was determined to make sure she had a fortnight’s worth of photos of her on the beach.
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
That he has zero charisma is his major failing.
If that's his worst failing, he's better than many politicians!
It's not unknown to have stuff and then set about procuring more stuff!
I thought that, but when you read it, if they had tech they were happy with they wouldn't need this. It isn't restocking of missiles, its oh shit we need the following fast,
"seeks industry input on systems capable of detecting, tracking, identifying and defeating uncrewed aerial systems (UAS) from maritime platforms. The project aims to deliver a rapidly deployable capability that can be installed on Royal Navy vessels with minimal integration."
Now its been obvious for years now drones were going to be a massive problem, so it is clearly something that predates the current government.
Cheap, simple solutions were possible. A light cannon with a radar would kill most drones reliably. But that’s not sexy or rewarding for big defence contractors.
You know, I reckon people who are good at shooting pheasants would be pretty good at downing drones. Although their performance would drop off as the day went on.
No-one who’s actually living here with a regular job has any interest in leaving.
How do the actual locals (foreign and otherwise) feel about influencer types? Presumably they are only a small number, and it's meant to be a place for people to visit, but they are supremely annoying poseurs.
Maybe they are only supremely annoying on screen, but are lovely and down to earth in person?
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
That he has zero charisma is his major failing.
If that's his worst failing, he's better than many politicians!
If only he was his alternate reality persona, Ace Starmer!
It's not unknown to have stuff and then set about procuring more stuff!
I thought that, but when you read it, if they had tech they were happy with they wouldn't need this. It isn't restocking of missiles, its oh shit we need the following fast,
"seeks industry input on systems capable of detecting, tracking, identifying and defeating uncrewed aerial systems (UAS) from maritime platforms. The project aims to deliver a rapidly deployable capability that can be installed on Royal Navy vessels with minimal integration."
Now its been obvious for years now drones were going to be a massive problem, so it is clearly something that predates the current government.
Cheap, simple solutions were possible. A light cannon with a radar would kill most drones reliably. But that’s not sexy or rewarding for big defence contractors.
You know, I reckon people who are good at shooting pheasants would be pretty good at downing drones. Although their performance would drop off as the day went on.
Didn't think folk were supposed to be shooting peasants anymore?
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
It's not, but nobody's suggesting we support Iranian regime in its slaughter.
Everyone opposing deposing the Iranian regime is supporting leaving them in place to continue their slaughter.
You can't just wash your hands of the evil.
As John Stuart Mill said - Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.
It's not unknown to have stuff and then set about procuring more stuff!
I thought that, but when you read it, if they had tech they were happy with they wouldn't need this. It isn't restocking of missiles, its oh shit we need the following fast,
"seeks industry input on systems capable of detecting, tracking, identifying and defeating uncrewed aerial systems (UAS) from maritime platforms. The project aims to deliver a rapidly deployable capability that can be installed on Royal Navy vessels with minimal integration."
Now its been obvious for years now drones were going to be a massive problem, so it is clearly something that predates the current government.
Cheap, simple solutions were possible. A light cannon with a radar would kill most drones reliably. But that’s not sexy or rewarding for big defence contractors.
You know, I reckon people who are good at shooting pheasants would be pretty good at downing drones. Although their performance would drop off as the day went on.
Didn't think folk were supposed to be shooting peasants anymore?
Had a gamekeeper done for that locally a week or so ago. The interesting thing was that no one noticed that they had been shot for several days after the body was found.
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
It's not, but nobody's suggesting we support Iranian regime in its slaughter.
Everyone opposing deposing the Iranian regime is supporting leaving them in place to continue their slaughter.
You can't just wash your hands of the evil.
As John Stuart Mill said - Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.
The quickest way to peace in the Middle East is regime change in Israel.
The quickest way to peace in the World is a missile attack on the US Republican Convention
Sadly innocents would die, but a lot lot less than if these morons continue their bloodlust
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
These bikes that zoom about on pavements and cycle lanes, seemingly without the need to pedal. They seem to me to be the easy enforcement option, should one be needed.
The Police don't regularly enforce the law in respect illegal bikes (electric or motorcycles) because the only realistic way to stop these people if they try to get away is to knock them off, which opens up PC Plod to investigation, dismissal and possible charges if the scrote on the bike gets hurt.
I understand that, from time to time, the vehicles in question aren't moving. Perhaps that's when they could be checked for their legality
Sure, why hasn't anyone thought of that before...
A stationery ebike is likely to be so because it's unattended - if it has a rider they'll be off like a rabbit, and we have the scenario I mentioned before.
Checking its legality would entail taking it away to have the engine output, top speed and functioning of any pedal assist checked. How do the police notify the owner their property has been seized if they have no idea who the owner is? How do they return the bike if it proves to be legal? What happens if the bike is locked or chained in place, can the police defeat those locks and do they have to pay compensation for that if the bike is legal?
It's not even faintly feasible to have the police just snatching ebikes off the street at random. This problem won't go away until there's a mandatory registration scheme for ebikes.
Ummm: aren't throttle controlled ebikes simply banned in the UK?
A load of ebikes technically meet all the rules / reg or for "off road use any", but snip of one wire unlocks insanity mode (which they are really spec'ed for).
Sometimes it is a menu option, with the password on the dealer's website.
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
It's not, but nobody's suggesting we support Iranian regime in its slaughter.
Everyone opposing deposing the Iranian regime is supporting leaving them in place to continue their slaughter.
You can't just wash your hands of the evil.
As John Stuart Mill said - Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.
The quickest way to peace in the Middle East is regime change in Israel.
The quickest way to peace in the World is a missile attack on the US Republican Convention
Sadly innocents would die, but a lot lot less than if these morons continue their bloodlust
In the view of Yair Lipid, the opposition leader, tonight he is fully behind Netanyahu and Israel as a country is united in this fight
Also report from Tel Aviv everyone is on the same page against Iran
In fact name anyone who supports Iran other than Russia
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
It's not, but nobody's suggesting we support Iranian regime in its slaughter.
Everyone opposing deposing the Iranian regime is supporting leaving them in place to continue their slaughter.
You can't just wash your hands of the evil.
As John Stuart Mill said - Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.
The quickest way to peace in the Middle East is regime change in Israel.
The quickest way to peace in the World is a missile attack on the US Republican Convention
Sadly innocents would die, but a lot lot less than if these morons continue their bloodlust
In the view of Yair Lipid, the opposition leader, tonight he is fully behind Netanyahu and Israel as a country is united in this fight
Also report from Tel Aviv everyone is on the same page against Iran
That just confirms that Israel is a pariah nation. There is little / no love for Israel across the World. A country that commits war crimes and break international norms and conventions on a whim.
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
It's not, but nobody's suggesting we support Iranian regime in its slaughter.
Everyone opposing deposing the Iranian regime is supporting leaving them in place to continue their slaughter.
You can't just wash your hands of the evil.
As John Stuart Mill said - Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.
what side was that meant for or was it all encompassing, not a fag paper between them
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
It's not, but nobody's suggesting we support Iranian regime in its slaughter.
Everyone opposing deposing the Iranian regime is supporting leaving them in place to continue their slaughter.
You can't just wash your hands of the evil.
As John Stuart Mill said - Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.
The quickest way to peace in the Middle East is regime change in Israel.
The quickest way to peace in the World is a missile attack on the US Republican Convention
Sadly innocents would die, but a lot lot less than if these morons continue their bloodlust
In the view of Yair Lipid, the opposition leader, tonight he is fully behind Netanyahu and Israel as a country is united in this fight
Also report from Tel Aviv everyone is on the same page against Iran
That just confirms that Israel is a pariah nation. There is little / no love for Israel across the World. A country that commits war crimes and break international norms and conventions on a whim.
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
It's not, but nobody's suggesting we support Iranian regime in its slaughter.
Everyone opposing deposing the Iranian regime is supporting leaving them in place to continue their slaughter.
You can't just wash your hands of the evil.
As John Stuart Mill said - Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.
The quickest way to peace in the Middle East is regime change in Israel.
The quickest way to peace in the World is a missile attack on the US Republican Convention
Sadly innocents would die, but a lot lot less than if these morons continue their bloodlust
In the view of Yair Lipid, the opposition leader, tonight he is fully behind Netanyahu and Israel as a country is united in this fight
Also report from Tel Aviv everyone is on the same page against Iran
In fact name anyone who supports Iran other than Russia
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
It's not, but nobody's suggesting we support Iranian regime in its slaughter.
Everyone opposing deposing the Iranian regime is supporting leaving them in place to continue their slaughter.
You can't just wash your hands of the evil.
As John Stuart Mill said - Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.
The quickest way to peace in the Middle East is regime change in Israel.
The quickest way to peace in the World is a missile attack on the US Republican Convention
Sadly innocents would die, but a lot lot less than if these morons continue their bloodlust
In the view of Yair Lipid, the opposition leader, tonight he is fully behind Netanyahu and Israel as a country is united in this fight
Also report from Tel Aviv everyone is on the same page against Iran
In fact name anyone who supports Iran other than Russia
It's abundantly clear that Trump & team had no plan for what to do if the Iranians didn't immediately surrender. And I'm sure they were told by the professionals that an immediate surrender was highly unlikely. So now they're floating random low-probability options while lying their asses off.
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
It's not, but nobody's suggesting we support Iranian regime in its slaughter.
Everyone opposing deposing the Iranian regime is supporting leaving them in place to continue their slaughter.
You can't just wash your hands of the evil.
As John Stuart Mill said - Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.
The quickest way to peace in the Middle East is regime change in Israel.
The quickest way to peace in the World is a missile attack on the US Republican Convention
Sadly innocents would die, but a lot lot less than if these morons continue their bloodlust
In the view of Yair Lipid, the opposition leader, tonight he is fully behind Netanyahu and Israel as a country is united in this fight
Also report from Tel Aviv everyone is on the same page against Iran
That just confirms that Israel is a pariah nation. There is little / no love for Israel across the World. A country that commits war crimes and break international norms and conventions on a whim.
Israel is a democratic, free nation. Not an evil, authoritarian theocracy.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
These bikes that zoom about on pavements and cycle lanes, seemingly without the need to pedal. They seem to me to be the easy enforcement option, should one be needed.
The Police don't regularly enforce the law in respect illegal bikes (electric or motorcycles) because the only realistic way to stop these people if they try to get away is to knock them off, which opens up PC Plod to investigation, dismissal and possible charges if the scrote on the bike gets hurt.
I understand that, from time to time, the vehicles in question aren't moving. Perhaps that's when they could be checked for their legality
Sure, why hasn't anyone thought of that before...
A stationery ebike is likely to be so because it's unattended - if it has a rider they'll be off like a rabbit, and we have the scenario I mentioned before.
Checking its legality would entail taking it away to have the engine output, top speed and functioning of any pedal assist checked. How do the police notify the owner their property has been seized if they have no idea who the owner is? How do they return the bike if it proves to be legal? What happens if the bike is locked or chained in place, can the police defeat those locks and do they have to pay compensation for that if the bike is legal?
It's not even faintly feasible to have the police just snatching ebikes off the street at random. This problem won't go away until there's a mandatory registration scheme for ebikes.
Ummm: aren't throttle controlled ebikes simply banned in the UK?
It's a little complicated. No, they throttle only control aren't simply banned.
Some have a "walkalong" throttle - 4 mph. On at least one of mine - a British made respectable one that does not require pedalling at the 4mph option.
There is also a route to a "low power" version (250 W) of a moped license that fits within the rules subject to teh usual 250W / 15mph. It's a bit of a palaver to get, but there a couple of profe3ssional places that will do this for you when you buy it.
And there is also a need for some disabled people to have throttle controlled e-trikes and e-cycles - that is the category for what are called "clip on wheelchairs" and why the plie got confiused about then, but consider also someone paralysed from the waist down, or a double amputee at the thighs.
That's partly why this mobility aid definition stuff is so tricky. It's no good saying "No we won't do throttle control because a scrote will abuse it and some locals may have kittens, so you Mr Double Amputee must stay locked up at home or only go out on sticks or in a wheelchair".
It's about enforcing on the miscreants. We don't ban cars just because some people put loud exhausts and fake number plates on them. It's the same case.
Having said that, enforcement is a matter of will and police policy, not really technical difficulty, and there are a lot of easy things that can be done. My local police force refuse to do anything on this, hiding behind "we need more laws" (they don't - high power ones can be confiscated under "no motor insurance".
The IDF seem to be using the same playbook we saw in Gaza .
Indiscriminate bombing couched under the “we only hit military targets bullshit “.
Together with Trump deciding that now he wants to choose the next Iranian leader how long before civilians there who were anti the regime start turning against the so called good guys !
It's not unknown to have stuff and then set about procuring more stuff!
I thought that, but when you read it, if they had tech they were happy with they wouldn't need this. It isn't restocking of missiles, its oh shit we need the following fast,
"seeks industry input on systems capable of detecting, tracking, identifying and defeating uncrewed aerial systems (UAS) from maritime platforms. The project aims to deliver a rapidly deployable capability that can be installed on Royal Navy vessels with minimal integration."
Now its been obvious for years now drones were going to be a massive problem, so it is clearly something that predates the current government.
Cheap, simple solutions were possible. A light cannon with a radar would kill most drones reliably. But that’s not sexy or rewarding for big defence contractors.
You know, I reckon people who are good at shooting pheasants would be pretty good at downing drones. Although their performance would drop off as the day went on.
At least one point defence system that was developed used an auto-shotgun and camera tracking. So automated “a bloke with a shotgun”
I know a bloke who used to have some ZSU-23 for sale (deactivated). That would do the job really nicely.
If you want “Proper Procurement” Phalanx exists, is in the U.K. supply chain. It’s self contained and bolts to just about anything.
If you want more range, there’s Goalkeeper. Out of service with the U.K. - but probably in a warehouse somewhere.
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
That he has zero charisma is his major failing.
If that's his worst failing, he's better than many politicians!
We can only dream of a world where every nation is led by a low charisma technocrat.
Was it worth £200m? What did we learn? What sets us up better for the future?
My conclusion was not much and nothing. Others will disagree. They will think that it was useful to hold the powerful to account and to be seen to do so in the hope that those in charge next time are more careful. They might point at the poignant stories told by the victims and those who suffered loss. I am just not seeing it.
To me, this Inquiry, and so many recent inquiries, are too focused on the politics. They are obsessed with what could have been done differently with the benefits of hindsight. There was not enough focus on the future. How do we make better decisions? More experts or fewer? A wider range of voices or a clear direction? How do we correct mistakes in real time, make it easier for those in charge to change course?
I don't see the answers from this £200m. It wasn't a good use of money.
All this 'taking sides' stuff is playground nonsense, and really irritating. It's entirely coherent not to take sides and to come to a view that:
a) the current Iranian regime is absolutely vile and in an ideal world would be replaced rapidly with something better, and
b) something better in Iran will not be achieved by Israel/USA bombing the shit out of Iran given the inevitable 'collateral damage' that will ensue, in the form of many dead civilians and an even more unstable Middle East and world.
Yair Lapid, leader of the opposition in Israel, supports the war and Israel is united
Quite right too.
I hope Lapid wins the next election and then continues to be as forceful as Netanyahu has been, just minus the corruption.
You can cross your fingers for that but he'd be pressed to match the devastation of Gaza.
If Iran falls then hopefully that would never be necessary again.
If you want peace for Israel and Palestine then seeing Iran, which has funnelled billions to Hamas and Hezbollah, defeated would be a good step to enabling that.
If the Islamic Republic survives this and funds Hamas to rebuild then the cycle of violence will continue and another Gaza war is inevitable.
I’m now realising it didn’t take much duplicity from Blair back in the day for righties to whip themselves into a bellicose fury over Iraq. They pretty much did it themselves.
John Healey, in an interview on Sky from Cyprus, when asked did not specifically rule out taking offensive action according to the journalist interviewing him
No-one who’s actually living here with a regular job has any interest in leaving.
How do the actual locals (foreign and otherwise) feel about influencer types? Presumably they are only a small number, and it's meant to be a place for people to visit, but they are supremely annoying poseurs.
Yes they’re a very small number, and on a very general basis those encouraging inbound tourism are good for the economy.
Which doesn’t mean that they can’t come across as total aresholes in a time of crisis, especially those who flaunt ‘wealth’ as their MO.
One of the funniest things I ever saw here was a woman who had 10 changes of outfit on the beach, in the space of about three hours. She’d either bought one night in the nice hotel (£300) or bought a day pass to the beach (£60ish), but was determined to make sure she had a fortnight’s worth of photos of her on the beach.
The ISA & Gulf states are turning to Ukraine to buy interceptor drones because they’re running out of air defence missiles. You’d think the USA would have learnt from watching how the war in Ukraine developed, but no: fuck around and find out is the order of the day.
(It’s likely that the Ministry of War / Defence told Hegseth & Trump that this would happen & the idiots went ahead regardless.)
The obvious question arises: Will JD Vance say thank you?
In the key specific issue significant majority support Starmer's defensive approach.
The other 2 questions unfairly represent he PM. The question needs to be too firm Trump, too soft with Trump and about right.
The question leads anyone thinking too soft or too hard to say badly.
Everything changes in a heart beat if a British Aircraft is taken down by an Iranian missile
Absolutely knock it off Big_G, a major conflict occurs and you're still always just childishly finding the angle ON STARMER.
You're being every bit as utterly graceless as Badenoch.
I imagine you are going to tell me it's just politics, like after Southport when your boys on here were retweeting the lies of real life fascists and you were just going "boys will be boys", like you were some fag wielding roughun in the town park watching admiringly as the grandkid's American Bully rips squirrels to pieces in front of everone as you observe "they are just having a bit of fun!"
I bet even MexicanPete can't parody your one-eyedness any more.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
These bikes that zoom about on pavements and cycle lanes, seemingly without the need to pedal. They seem to me to be the easy enforcement option, should one be needed.
The Police don't regularly enforce the law in respect illegal bikes (electric or motorcycles) because the only realistic way to stop these people if they try to get away is to knock them off, which opens up PC Plod to investigation, dismissal and possible charges if the scrote on the bike gets hurt.
I understand that, from time to time, the vehicles in question aren't moving. Perhaps that's when they could be checked for their legality
Sure, why hasn't anyone thought of that before...
A stationery ebike is likely to be so because it's unattended - if it has a rider they'll be off like a rabbit, and we have the scenario I mentioned before.
Checking its legality would entail taking it away to have the engine output, top speed and functioning of any pedal assist checked. How do the police notify the owner their property has been seized if they have no idea who the owner is? How do they return the bike if it proves to be legal? What happens if the bike is locked or chained in place, can the police defeat those locks and do they have to pay compensation for that if the bike is legal?
It's not even faintly feasible to have the police just snatching ebikes off the street at random. This problem won't go away until there's a mandatory registration scheme for ebikes.
Ummm: aren't throttle controlled ebikes simply banned in the UK?
It's a little complicated. No, they throttle only control aren't simply banned.
Some have a "walkalong" throttle - 4 mph. On at least one of mine - a British made respectable one that does not require pedalling at the 4mph option.
There is also a route to a "low power" version (250 W) of a moped license that fits within the rules subject to teh usual 250W / 15mph. It's a bit of a palaver to get, but there a couple of profe3ssional places that will do this for you when you buy it.
And there is also a need for some disabled people to have throttle controlled e-trikes and e-cycles - that is the category for what are called "clip on wheelchairs" and why the plie got confiused about then, but consider also someone paralysed from the waist down, or a double amputee at the thighs.
That's partly why this mobility aid definition stuff is so tricky. It's no good saying "No we won't do throttle control because a scrote will abuse it and some locals may have kittens, so you Mr Double Amputee must stay locked up at home or only go out on sticks or in a wheelchair".
It's about enforcing on the miscreants. We don't ban cars just because some people put loud exhausts and fake number plates on them. It's the same case.
Having said that, enforcement is a matter of will and police policy, not really technical difficulty, and there are a lot of easy things that can be done. My local police force refuse to do anything on this, hiding behind "we need more laws" (they don't - high power ones can be confiscated under "no motor insurance".
The local branch of the Met, here, were quite clear that they thought a crack down on e-bikes would be spun against them as victimising ethnic minorities. So unless senior management prods them, they do nothing.
In the key specific issue significant majority support Starmer's defensive approach.
The other 2 questions unfairly represent he PM. The question needs to be too firm Trump, too soft with Trump and about right.
The question leads anyone thinking too soft or too hard to say badly.
Everything changes in a heart beat if a British Aircraft is taken down by an Iranian missile
Absolutely knock it off Big_G, a major conflict occurs and you're still always just childishly finding the angle ON STARMER.
You're being every bit as utterly graceless as Badenoch.
I imagine you are going to tell me it's just politics, like after Southport when your boys on here were retweeting the lies of real life fascists and you were just going "boys will be boys", like you were some fag wielding roughun in the town park watching admiringly as the grandkid's American Bully rips squirrels to pieces in front of everone as you observe "they are just having a bit of fun!"
I bet even MexicanPete can't parody your one-eyedness any more.
Someone has to tell the public the truth. We need to rearm and that is going to involve cuts to all sorts of other departments but especially stuff like the Triple bloody lock.
In the key specific issue significant majority support Starmer's defensive approach.
The other 2 questions unfairly represent he PM. The question needs to be too firm Trump, too soft with Trump and about right.
The question leads anyone thinking too soft or too hard to say badly.
Everything changes in a heart beat if a British Aircraft is taken down by an Iranian missile
Absolutely knock it off Big_G, a major conflict occurs and you're still always just childishly finding the angle ON STARMER.
You're being every bit as utterly graceless as Badenoch.
I imagine you are going to tell me it's just politics, like after Southport when your boys on here were retweeting the lies of real life fascists and you were just going "boys will be boys", like you were some fag wielding roughun in the town park watching admiringly as the grandkid's American Bully rips squirrels to pieces in front of everone as you observe "they are just having a bit of fun!"
I bet even MexicanPete can't parody your one-eyedness any more.
It may upset you, but Starmer is in a bind of his own making and if we lose an aircraft to an Iranian missile what would you do ?
There are lots of difficult questions but I am not going to be silenced by asking awkward questions
And this is not politics but a very serious war and your last paragraph is unworthy of you
Was it worth £200m? What did we learn? What sets us up better for the future?
My conclusion was not much and nothing. Others will disagree. They will think that it was useful to hold the powerful to account and to be seen to do so in the hope that those in charge next time are more careful. They might point at the poignant stories told by the victims and those who suffered loss. I am just not seeing it.
To me, this Inquiry, and so many recent inquiries, are too focused on the politics. They are obsessed with what could have been done differently with the benefits of hindsight. There was not enough focus on the future. How do we make better decisions? More experts or fewer? A wider range of voices or a clear direction? How do we correct mistakes in real time, make it easier for those in charge to change course?
I don't see the answers from this £200m. It wasn't a good use of money.
I can't even read the detail about it all now I am so angry these days about what a complete waste of time and opportunity this was.
We don't have answers to any of the serious questions and seem to have concluded we would do it all again only starting two weeks earlier.
John Healey, in an interview on Sky from Cyprus, when asked did not specifically rule out taking offensive action according to the journalist interviewing him
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
These bikes that zoom about on pavements and cycle lanes, seemingly without the need to pedal. They seem to me to be the easy enforcement option, should one be needed.
The Police don't regularly enforce the law in respect illegal bikes (electric or motorcycles) because the only realistic way to stop these people if they try to get away is to knock them off, which opens up PC Plod to investigation, dismissal and possible charges if the scrote on the bike gets hurt.
I understand that, from time to time, the vehicles in question aren't moving. Perhaps that's when they could be checked for their legality
Sure, why hasn't anyone thought of that before...
A stationery ebike is likely to be so because it's unattended - if it has a rider they'll be off like a rabbit, and we have the scenario I mentioned before.
Checking its legality would entail taking it away to have the engine output, top speed and functioning of any pedal assist checked. How do the police notify the owner their property has been seized if they have no idea who the owner is? How do they return the bike if it proves to be legal? What happens if the bike is locked or chained in place, can the police defeat those locks and do they have to pay compensation for that if the bike is legal?
It's not even faintly feasible to have the police just snatching ebikes off the street at random. This problem won't go away until there's a mandatory registration scheme for ebikes.
Ummm: aren't throttle controlled ebikes simply banned in the UK?
It's a little complicated. No, they throttle only control aren't simply banned.
Some have a "walkalong" throttle - 4 mph. On at least one of mine - a British made respectable one that does not require pedalling at the 4mph option.
There is also a route to a "low power" version (250 W) of a moped license that fits within the rules subject to teh usual 250W / 15mph. It's a bit of a palaver to get, but there a couple of profe3ssional places that will do this for you when you buy it.
And there is also a need for some disabled people to have throttle controlled e-trikes and e-cycles - that is the category for what are called "clip on wheelchairs" and why the plie got confiused about then, but consider also someone paralysed from the waist down, or a double amputee at the thighs.
That's partly why this mobility aid definition stuff is so tricky. It's no good saying "No we won't do throttle control because a scrote will abuse it and some locals may have kittens, so you Mr Double Amputee must stay locked up at home or only go out on sticks or in a wheelchair".
It's about enforcing on the miscreants. We don't ban cars just because some people put loud exhausts and fake number plates on them. It's the same case.
Having said that, enforcement is a matter of will and police policy, not really technical difficulty, and there are a lot of easy things that can be done. My local police force refuse to do anything on this, hiding behind "we need more laws" (they don't - high power ones can be confiscated under "no motor insurance".
The local branch of the Met, here, were quite clear that they thought a crack down on e-bikes would be spun against them as victimising ethnic minorities. So unless senior management prods them, they do nothing.
So we're only going to deal with white illegal immigrants then. Of course. And people wonder why Reform are winning.
John Healey, in an interview on Sky from Cyprus, when asked did not specifically rule out taking offensive action according to the journalist interviewing him
You'd be attacking him if he said the opposite
Complete hypocracy
I am reporting a conversation you can watch on Sky
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
It's not, but nobody's suggesting we support Iranian regime in its slaughter.
Everyone opposing deposing the Iranian regime is supporting leaving them in place to continue their slaughter.
You can't just wash your hands of the evil.
As John Stuart Mill said - Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.
The quickest way to peace in the Middle East is regime change in Israel.
The quickest way to peace in the World is a missile attack on the US Republican Convention
Sadly innocents would die, but a lot lot less than if these morons continue their bloodlust
In the view of Yair Lipid, the opposition leader, tonight he is fully behind Netanyahu and Israel as a country is united in this fight
Also report from Tel Aviv everyone is on the same page against Iran
In fact name anyone who supports Iran other than Russia
So what
Barbarism Mass Murder
Is mass murder andvbarbarism whoever does it.
Your defence of American and Israeli aggression is hypocritical if you don't accept it's no different to Iran or Russia.
Don't try and plead it's defensive?
Give that bastard Netanyahu an inch and hell take a thousand miles.
He is the most dangerous man on the planet bar none.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
These bikes that zoom about on pavements and cycle lanes, seemingly without the need to pedal. They seem to me to be the easy enforcement option, should one be needed.
The Police don't regularly enforce the law in respect illegal bikes (electric or motorcycles) because the only realistic way to stop these people if they try to get away is to knock them off, which opens up PC Plod to investigation, dismissal and possible charges if the scrote on the bike gets hurt.
I understand that, from time to time, the vehicles in question aren't moving. Perhaps that's when they could be checked for their legality
Sure, why hasn't anyone thought of that before...
A stationery ebike is likely to be so because it's unattended - if it has a rider they'll be off like a rabbit, and we have the scenario I mentioned before.
Checking its legality would entail taking it away to have the engine output, top speed and functioning of any pedal assist checked. How do the police notify the owner their property has been seized if they have no idea who the owner is? How do they return the bike if it proves to be legal? What happens if the bike is locked or chained in place, can the police defeat those locks and do they have to pay compensation for that if the bike is legal?
It's not even faintly feasible to have the police just snatching ebikes off the street at random. This problem won't go away until there's a mandatory registration scheme for ebikes.
Ummm: aren't throttle controlled ebikes simply banned in the UK?
It's a little complicated. No, they throttle only control aren't simply banned.
Some have a "walkalong" throttle - 4 mph. On at least one of mine - a British made respectable one that does not require pedalling at the 4mph option.
There is also a route to a "low power" version (250 W) of a moped license that fits within the rules subject to teh usual 250W / 15mph. It's a bit of a palaver to get, but there a couple of profe3ssional places that will do this for you when you buy it.
And there is also a need for some disabled people to have throttle controlled e-trikes and e-cycles - that is the category for what are called "clip on wheelchairs" and why the plie got confiused about then, but consider also someone paralysed from the waist down, or a double amputee at the thighs.
That's partly why this mobility aid definition stuff is so tricky. It's no good saying "No we won't do throttle control because a scrote will abuse it and some locals may have kittens, so you Mr Double Amputee must stay locked up at home or only go out on sticks or in a wheelchair".
It's about enforcing on the miscreants. We don't ban cars just because some people put loud exhausts and fake number plates on them. It's the same case.
Having said that, enforcement is a matter of will and police policy, not really technical difficulty, and there are a lot of easy things that can be done. My local police force refuse to do anything on this, hiding behind "we need more laws" (they don't - high power ones can be confiscated under "no motor insurance".
The local branch of the Met, here, were quite clear that they thought a crack down on e-bikes would be spun against them as victimising ethnic minorities. So unless senior management prods them, they do nothing.
So we're only going to deal with white illegal immigrants then. Of course. And people wonder why Reform are winning.
Nothing do with migrants.
The Met oscillate between being racist and being worried about being perceived to be racist. This is probably because their anti-racism stuff is performative rather than actually being anti-racist.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
These bikes that zoom about on pavements and cycle lanes, seemingly without the need to pedal. They seem to me to be the easy enforcement option, should one be needed.
The Police don't regularly enforce the law in respect illegal bikes (electric or motorcycles) because the only realistic way to stop these people if they try to get away is to knock them off, which opens up PC Plod to investigation, dismissal and possible charges if the scrote on the bike gets hurt.
I understand that, from time to time, the vehicles in question aren't moving. Perhaps that's when they could be checked for their legality
Sure, why hasn't anyone thought of that before...
A stationery ebike is likely to be so because it's unattended - if it has a rider they'll be off like a rabbit, and we have the scenario I mentioned before.
Checking its legality would entail taking it away to have the engine output, top speed and functioning of any pedal assist checked. How do the police notify the owner their property has been seized if they have no idea who the owner is? How do they return the bike if it proves to be legal? What happens if the bike is locked or chained in place, can the police defeat those locks and do they have to pay compensation for that if the bike is legal?
It's not even faintly feasible to have the police just snatching ebikes off the street at random. This problem won't go away until there's a mandatory registration scheme for ebikes.
Ummm: aren't throttle controlled ebikes simply banned in the UK?
What's odd about this discussion is that the police already have plenty of power to arrest and prosecute people doing this. It's just an enforcement issue. They do, occasionally, stop e-motorcyclists around here and do them for the full suite of motoring offences - insurance, licence, driving on a footpath etc etc.
But it's Facebook-led policing (with something of a ethnic element). Given the relative danger posed they'd be better off drug testing parents doing the school run.
Someone has to tell the public the truth. We need to rearm and that is going to involve cuts to all sorts of other departments but especially stuff like the Triple bloody lock.
The party is over.
Ending the triple lock will save no money in the immediate term because April's pension rise is already accounted for. Beyond that, it rather depends what replaces it and how those indexes move.
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
It's not, but nobody's suggesting we support Iranian regime in its slaughter.
Everyone opposing deposing the Iranian regime is supporting leaving them in place to continue their slaughter.
You can't just wash your hands of the evil.
As John Stuart Mill said - Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.
The quickest way to peace in the Middle East is regime change in Israel.
The quickest way to peace in the World is a missile attack on the US Republican Convention
Sadly innocents would die, but a lot lot less than if these morons continue their bloodlust
In the view of Yair Lipid, the opposition leader, tonight he is fully behind Netanyahu and Israel as a country is united in this fight
Also report from Tel Aviv everyone is on the same page against Iran
In fact name anyone who supports Iran other than Russia
So what
Barbarism Mass Murder
Is mass murder andvbarbarism whoever does it.
Your defence of American and Israeli aggression is hypocritical if you don't accept it's no different to Iran or Russia.
Don't try and plead it's defensive?
Give that bastard Netanyahu an inch and hell take a thousand miles.
He is the most dangerous man on the planet bar none.
Tonight his country is fully behind him and removing Netanyahu will not change Israels resolve
No-one who’s actually living here with a regular job has any interest in leaving.
How do the actual locals (foreign and otherwise) feel about influencer types? Presumably they are only a small number, and it's meant to be a place for people to visit, but they are supremely annoying poseurs.
Yes they’re a very small number, and on a very general basis those encouraging inbound tourism are good for the economy.
Which doesn’t mean that they can’t come across as total aresholes in a time of crisis, especially those who flaunt ‘wealth’ as their MO.
One of the funniest things I ever saw here was a woman who had 10 changes of outfit on the beach, in the space of about three hours. She’d either bought one night in the nice hotel (£300) or bought a day pass to the beach (£60ish), but was determined to make sure she had a fortnight’s worth of photos of her on the beach.
In the key specific issue significant majority support Starmer's defensive approach.
The other 2 questions unfairly represent he PM. The question needs to be too firm Trump, too soft with Trump and about right.
The question leads anyone thinking too soft or too hard to say badly.
Everything changes in a heart beat if a British Aircraft is taken down by an Iranian missile
Absolutely knock it off Big_G, a major conflict occurs and you're still always just childishly finding the angle ON STARMER.
You're being every bit as utterly graceless as Badenoch.
I imagine you are going to tell me it's just politics, like after Southport when your boys on here were retweeting the lies of real life fascists and you were just going "boys will be boys", like you were some fag wielding roughun in the town park watching admiringly as the grandkid's American Bully rips squirrels to pieces in front of everone as you observe "they are just having a bit of fun!"
I bet even MexicanPete can't parody your one-eyedness any more.
It may upset you, but Starmer is in a bind of his own making and if we lose an aircraft to an Iranian missile what would you do ?
There are lots of difficult questions but I am not going to be silenced by asking awkward questions
And this is not politics but a very serious war and your last paragraph is unworthy of you
How on earth is this a "bind of his own making". The only (and big) fault the government has made is not having some destroyers and frigates in the Gulf/Mediterraenan - and if they had done that you'd be accusing him of being a warmonger or putting British lives at risk.
Yair Lapid, leader of the opposition in Israel, supports the war and Israel is united
Quite right too.
I hope Lapid wins the next election and then continues to be as forceful as Netanyahu has been, just minus the corruption.
You can cross your fingers for that but he'd be pressed to match the devastation of Gaza.
If Iran falls then hopefully that would never be necessary again.
If you want peace for Israel and Palestine then seeing Iran, which has funnelled billions to Hamas and Hezbollah, defeated would be a good step to enabling that.
If the Islamic Republic survives this and funds Hamas to rebuild then the cycle of violence will continue and another Gaza war is inevitable.
It wasn't necessary the first time. But let's not. There's no point. I don't view everything that happens in the Middle East through the lens of Glory to Israel. You do.
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
It's not, but nobody's suggesting we support Iranian regime in its slaughter.
Everyone opposing deposing the Iranian regime is supporting leaving them in place to continue their slaughter.
You can't just wash your hands of the evil.
As John Stuart Mill said - Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.
The quickest way to peace in the Middle East is regime change in Israel.
The quickest way to peace in the World is a missile attack on the US Republican Convention
Sadly innocents would die, but a lot lot less than if these morons continue their bloodlust
In the view of Yair Lipid, the opposition leader, tonight he is fully behind Netanyahu and Israel as a country is united in this fight
Also report from Tel Aviv everyone is on the same page against Iran
In fact name anyone who supports Iran other than Russia
So what
Barbarism Mass Murder
Is mass murder andvbarbarism whoever does it.
Your defence of American and Israeli aggression is hypocritical if you don't accept it's no different to Iran or Russia.
Don't try and plead it's defensive?
Give that bastard Netanyahu an inch and hell take a thousand miles.
He is the most dangerous man on the planet bar none.
It is defensive.
Hamas triggered the war in Gaza. Its their fault people died in the crossfire. Iran funded Hamas. All the deaths in Gaza are ultimately Iran's responsibility.
Iran meanwhile slaughters unarmed innocents in cold blood without provocation.
If you can't discern the difference, it is because your moral compass is broken.
Was it worth £200m? What did we learn? What sets us up better for the future?
My conclusion was not much and nothing. Others will disagree. They will think that it was useful to hold the powerful to account and to be seen to do so in the hope that those in charge next time are more careful. They might point at the poignant stories told by the victims and those who suffered loss. I am just not seeing it.
To me, this Inquiry, and so many recent inquiries, are too focused on the politics. They are obsessed with what could have been done differently with the benefits of hindsight. There was not enough focus on the future. How do we make better decisions? More experts or fewer? A wider range of voices or a clear direction? How do we correct mistakes in real time, make it easier for those in charge to change course?
I don't see the answers from this £200m. It wasn't a good use of money.
I somewhat disagree. The inquiry does have lessons, but we're not going to learn them. An important one is to decide quickly if non medical interventions are necessary, and if so go early - you will save a lot of death and economic damage downstream.
Apparently the UK must just obey Trump at all times .
I’m sure the sovereignty warriors in the Reform and Tory parties will be outraged by this !
Tumbleweed ….
It's an odd form of Taking Back Control, isn't it.
The plan was always to become a vassal state of the USA . And with Badenoch and Farage they’re all in .
Piss off. We've been a vassal state to the USA since WW2, and the position has steadily worsened. The USA actually wanted us to get in and stay in - leaving was one of the nost rebellious things we've done.
In the key specific issue significant majority support Starmer's defensive approach.
The other 2 questions unfairly represent he PM. The question needs to be too firm Trump, too soft with Trump and about right.
The question leads anyone thinking too soft or too hard to say badly.
Everything changes in a heart beat if a British Aircraft is taken down by an Iranian missile
Absolutely knock it off Big_G, a major conflict occurs and you're still always just childishly finding the angle ON STARMER.
You're being every bit as utterly graceless as Badenoch.
I imagine you are going to tell me it's just politics, like after Southport when your boys on here were retweeting the lies of real life fascists and you were just going "boys will be boys", like you were some fag wielding roughun in the town park watching admiringly as the grandkid's American Bully rips squirrels to pieces in front of everone as you observe "they are just having a bit of fun!"
I bet even MexicanPete can't parody your one-eyedness any more.
It may upset you, but Starmer is in a bind of his own making and if we lose an aircraft to an Iranian missile what would you do ?
There are lots of difficult questions but I am not going to be silenced by asking awkward questions
And this is not politics but a very serious war and your last paragraph is unworthy of you
How on earth is this a "bind of his own making". The only (and big) fault the government has made is not having some destroyers and frigates in the Gulf/Mediterraenan - and if they had done that you'd be accusing him of being a warmonger or putting British lives at risk.
Actually no I would not - indeed John Healey said this was months in the planning so then why no naval ship in Cyprus ?
To be honest I'm kinda surprised. It implies that Iran was really restrained in its response during the 12-day war. I guess I'd assumed they simply didn't have the ability to hit back.
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
It's not, but nobody's suggesting we support Iranian regime in its slaughter.
Everyone opposing deposing the Iranian regime is supporting leaving them in place to continue their slaughter.
You can't just wash your hands of the evil.
As John Stuart Mill said - Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.
The quickest way to peace in the Middle East is regime change in Israel.
The quickest way to peace in the World is a missile attack on the US Republican Convention
Sadly innocents would die, but a lot lot less than if these morons continue their bloodlust
In the view of Yair Lipid, the opposition leader, tonight he is fully behind Netanyahu and Israel as a country is united in this fight
Also report from Tel Aviv everyone is on the same page against Iran
In fact name anyone who supports Iran other than Russia
So what
Barbarism Mass Murder
Is mass murder andvbarbarism whoever does it.
Your defence of American and Israeli aggression is hypocritical if you don't accept it's no different to Iran or Russia.
Don't try and plead it's defensive?
Give that bastard Netanyahu an inch and hell take a thousand miles.
He is the most dangerous man on the planet bar none.
It is defensive.
Hamas triggered the war in Gaza. Its their fault people died in the crossfire. Iran funded Hamas. All the deaths in Gaza are ultimately Iran's responsibility.
Iran meanwhile slaughters unarmed innocents in cold blood without provocation.
If you can't discern the difference, it is because your moral compass is broken.
Israel has the right to self-defence, same as we do or any other nation.
Had Hamas not attacked Israel, there would have been no war in Gaza.
To be honest I'm kinda surprised. It implies that Iran was really restrained in its response during the 12-day war. I guess I'd assumed they simply didn't have the ability to hit back.
The difference is that they were trying to hit back at Israel directly. The Gulf states are much easier targets for them.
Was it worth £200m? What did we learn? What sets us up better for the future?
My conclusion was not much and nothing. Others will disagree. They will think that it was useful to hold the powerful to account and to be seen to do so in the hope that those in charge next time are more careful. They might point at the poignant stories told by the victims and those who suffered loss. I am just not seeing it.
To me, this Inquiry, and so many recent inquiries, are too focused on the politics. They are obsessed with what could have been done differently with the benefits of hindsight. There was not enough focus on the future. How do we make better decisions? More experts or fewer? A wider range of voices or a clear direction? How do we correct mistakes in real time, make it easier for those in charge to change course?
I don't see the answers from this £200m. It wasn't a good use of money.
I can't even read the detail about it all now I am so angry these days about what a complete waste of time and opportunity this was.
We don't have answers to any of the serious questions and seem to have concluded we would do it all again only starting two weeks earlier.
Agreed. From those parts I watched on the Inquiry's YouTube channel, it seemed mostly concerned with gossip about who decided what when. The inquiry should have been laser-focussed on next time, when the vector will almost certainly be different and the people definitely will be.
Lordy. The state of my MP Lee Anderson. He is cross about MPs promoting dancing for health, since it is Angela Rippon probably for old people like him:
Dancing in Parliament.
Reform UK MP Lee Anderson told the Daily Mail: 'I walked into Portcullis House this morning and thought I'd walked straight into Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' video.
'Whilst the world is on the brink of World War Three, these dancing MPs have made it quite clear that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
PB Tories are very black and white.
No one with any morality is supportive of the Islamic Revolutionary regime, but Bibi's body count is catching them up.
Lovely houses, nice districts, tens of thousands of hard working decent honest people forced to flee Lebanon. No where to do, done nothing wrong
Because that megalananiac cunt wants more Arab blood.
I challenge anyone to watch that and to excuse it.
It's blood curling.
It's like us having to flee London because he thinks Hezbollah have 5 members on Clapham.
He has to be stopped
Now!
Israel are fully entitled to fight Hezbollah, who chose to start the fighting there.
The Lebanese government have said they wish to disarm and remove Hezbollah to end this violence.
Of course Iran has funded Hezbollah to the tune of billions.
If you want peace for Lebanon, you should want Israel to defeat the Islamic Republic, to destroy the sponsor of Hezbollah and to end the cycle of violence.
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
PB Tories are very black and white.
No one with any morality is supportive of the Islamic Revolutionary regime, but Bibi's body count is catching them up.
Do you think it's Allah's will that Israel exists?
So the public basically agrees with what the government is doing, while also thinking they're doing it badly. They can't win. Incidentally I think the way the official opposition is behaving during this national crisis is nothing short of scandalous.
That's because he can't give a straight message. Most people don't know what Starmers position is. I certainly don't. All we know is that he's not as far up Trumps backside as he usually is
Anyway not important. The Greens have caqptured the ground most of the public support. Don't touch Trump's adventurism with a bargepole. No ifs no buts. Nuance is not what people want. Do you want to slaughter people for Trump and Netanyahu. Yes or No.?
Explain how the slaughter of 40,000 of it's own people by the Iranian regime are any better
PB Tories are very black and white.
No one with any morality is supportive of the Islamic Revolutionary regime, but Bibi's body count is catching them up.
Don't support the regime, just don't want anything done to remove them from power?
Care to address the point by John Stuart Mill raised earlier?
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I’m sure the sovereignty warriors in the Reform and Tory parties will be outraged by this !
Tumbleweed ….
(It’s likely that the Ministry of War / Defence told Hegseth & Trump that this would happen & the idiots went ahead regardless.)
The obvious question arises: Will JD Vance say thank you?
Admittedly I imagine Cuba would be a much easier target.
A police force which spent £34,300 buying electric tuk-tuks to help fight crime sold them after just two years - at a £28,350 loss.
Gwent Police bought the four three-wheelers using a Home Office fund to patrol parts of Newport and Abergavenny in 2022, and also to be used as safe spaces where crimes could be reported. But in June 2024 they went out of service and later that year were sold for £5,950 in total, a Freedom of Information request has found.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7vjj4nv5elo
The other 2 questions unfairly represent he PM. The question needs to be too firm Trump, too soft with Trump and about right.
The question leads anyone thinking too soft or too hard to say badly.
Which doesn’t mean that they can’t come across as total aresholes in a time of crisis, especially those who flaunt ‘wealth’ as their MO.
One of the funniest things I ever saw here was a woman who had 10 changes of outfit on the beach, in the space of about three hours. She’d either bought one night in the nice hotel (£300) or bought a day pass to the beach (£60ish), but was determined to make sure she had a fortnight’s worth of photos of her on the beach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofibNrYDjdY
You can't just wash your hands of the evil.
As John Stuart Mill said - Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.
I hope Lapid wins the next election and then continues to be as forceful as Netanyahu has been, just minus the corruption.
The quickest way to peace in the World is a missile attack on the US Republican Convention
Sadly innocents would die, but a lot lot less than if these morons continue their bloodlust
Also report from Tel Aviv everyone is on the same page against Iran
In fact name anyone who supports Iran other than Russia
It's abundantly clear that Trump & team had no plan for what to do if the Iranians didn't immediately surrender. And I'm sure they were told by the professionals that an immediate surrender was highly unlikely. So now they're floating random low-probability options while lying their asses off.
https://bsky.app/profile/danmcfadden.bsky.social/post/3mgddrgoxic2j
Some have a "walkalong" throttle - 4 mph. On at least one of mine - a British made respectable one that does not require pedalling at the 4mph option.
There is also a route to a "low power" version (250 W) of a moped license that fits within the rules subject to teh usual 250W / 15mph. It's a bit of a palaver to get, but there a couple of profe3ssional places that will do this for you when you buy it.
And there is also a need for some disabled people to have throttle controlled e-trikes and e-cycles - that is the category for what are called "clip on wheelchairs" and why the plie got confiused about then, but consider also someone paralysed from the waist down, or a double amputee at the thighs.
That's partly why this mobility aid definition stuff is so tricky. It's no good saying "No we won't do throttle control because a scrote will abuse it and some locals may have kittens, so you Mr Double Amputee must stay locked up at home or only go out on sticks or in a wheelchair".
It's about enforcing on the miscreants. We don't ban cars just because some people put loud exhausts and fake number plates on them. It's the same case.
Having said that, enforcement is a matter of will and police policy, not really technical difficulty, and there are a lot of easy things that can be done. My local police force refuse to do anything on this, hiding behind "we need more laws" (they don't - high power ones can be confiscated under "no motor insurance".
Indiscriminate bombing couched under the “we only hit military targets bullshit “.
Together with Trump deciding that now he wants to choose the next Iranian leader how long before civilians there who were anti the regime start turning against the so called good guys !
Apparently she is about to get fired.
https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3mgdfam5h6c2m
I know a bloke who used to have some ZSU-23 for sale (deactivated). That would do the job really nicely.
If you want “Proper Procurement” Phalanx exists, is in the U.K. supply chain. It’s self contained and bolts to just about anything.
If you want more range, there’s Goalkeeper. Out of service with the U.K. - but probably in a warehouse somewhere.
Was it worth £200m? What did we learn? What sets us up better for the future?
My conclusion was not much and nothing. Others will disagree. They will think that it was useful to hold the powerful to account and to be seen to do so in the hope that those in charge next time are more careful. They might point at the poignant stories told by the victims and those who suffered loss. I am just not seeing it.
To me, this Inquiry, and so many recent inquiries, are too focused on the politics. They are obsessed with what could have been done differently with the benefits of hindsight. There was not enough focus on the future. How do we make better decisions? More experts or fewer? A wider range of voices or a clear direction? How do we correct mistakes in real time, make it easier for those in charge to change course?
I don't see the answers from this £200m. It wasn't a good use of money.
a) the current Iranian regime is absolutely vile and in an ideal world would be replaced rapidly with something better, and
b) something better in Iran will not be achieved by Israel/USA bombing the shit out of Iran given the inevitable 'collateral damage' that will ensue, in the form of many dead civilians and an even more unstable Middle East and world.
If you want peace for Israel and Palestine then seeing Iran, which has funnelled billions to Hamas and Hezbollah, defeated would be a good step to enabling that.
If the Islamic Republic survives this and funds Hamas to rebuild then the cycle of violence will continue and another Gaza war is inevitable.
You're being every bit as utterly graceless as Badenoch.
I imagine you are going to tell me it's just politics, like after Southport when your boys on here were retweeting the lies of real life fascists and you were just going "boys will be boys", like you were some fag wielding roughun in the town park watching admiringly as the grandkid's American Bully rips squirrels to pieces in front of everone as you observe "they are just having a bit of fun!"
I bet even MexicanPete can't parody your one-eyedness any more.
Starmer did not say what he states.
And the procurement is another rapid one of a number that have been in process for some time istm.
The party is over.
The UK's contribution to CEPI for next 5 years to develop vaccines for the next pandemic is £160m.
Seems kind of mad when you set them against each other like that.
It may upset you, but Starmer is in a bind of his own making and if we lose an aircraft to an Iranian missile what would you do ?
There are lots of difficult questions but I am not going to be silenced by asking awkward questions
And this is not politics but a very serious war and your last paragraph is unworthy of you
The other side have got far far more blood on their hands but are untouchable
Totally hypocritical
We don't have answers to any of the serious questions and seem to have concluded we would do it all again only starting two weeks earlier.
Complete hypocracy
Iran is an exporter of war
Barbarism
Mass Murder
Is mass murder andvbarbarism whoever does it.
Your defence of American and Israeli aggression is hypocritical if you don't accept it's no different to Iran or Russia.
Don't try and plead it's defensive?
Give that bastard Netanyahu an inch and hell take a thousand miles.
He is the most dangerous man on the planet bar none.
The Met oscillate between being racist and being worried about being perceived to be racist. This is probably because their anti-racism stuff is performative rather than actually being anti-racist.
The City of London police do rather better
But it's Facebook-led policing (with something of a ethnic element). Given the relative danger posed they'd be better off drug testing parents doing the school run.
https://x.com/MattCartoonist/status/2029608254834159867
Hamas triggered the war in Gaza. Its their fault people died in the crossfire. Iran funded Hamas. All the deaths in Gaza are ultimately Iran's responsibility.
Iran meanwhile slaughters unarmed innocents in cold blood without provocation.
If you can't discern the difference, it is because your moral compass is broken.
Had Hamas not attacked Israel, there would have been no war in Gaza.
It is as simple as that.
Lovely houses, nice districts, tens of thousands of hard working decent honest people forced to flee Lebanon. No where to do, done nothing wrong
Because that megalananiac c*nt wants more Arab blood.
I challenge anyone to watch that and to excuse it.
It's blood curling.
It's like us having to flee London because he thinks Hezbollah have 5 members on Clapham.
He has to be stopped
Now!
Dancing in Parliament.
Reform UK MP Lee Anderson told the Daily Mail: 'I walked into Portcullis House this morning and thought I'd walked straight into Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' video.
'Whilst the world is on the brink of World War Three, these dancing MPs have made it quite clear that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
'At least we've got a 5 per cent pay rise to look forward to,' Mr Anderson added, in a reference to the inflation-busting salary hike that MPs will get in April.
https://x.com/IsabelOakeshott/status/2029502746206835192
I checked and the Mail does not seem to have put its many young women in cleavage or bikinis into mourning for the duration.
No one with any morality is supportive of the Islamic Revolutionary regime, but Bibi's body count is catching them up.
The Lebanese government have said they wish to disarm and remove Hezbollah to end this violence.
Of course Iran has funded Hezbollah to the tune of billions.
If you want peace for Lebanon, you should want Israel to defeat the Islamic Republic, to destroy the sponsor of Hezbollah and to end the cycle of violence.
It’s all Iran’s fault and it’s just collateral damage.
That’s what our resident John Bolton’s will be saying.
Care to address the point by John Stuart Mill raised earlier?