Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
No reason why Deliveroo couldn't be made responsible.
All it would take is a change in the law. The law can be whatever Parliament votes for it to be.
Fix the mess. That's your job as a Government.
I take it you didn’t read the actual issue. So let’s try a different example which is how do you determine at every point of every delivery that the person you think is delivering the order is the person actually delivering the order
You make the company that facilitated the order (Deliveroo in this instance) subject to strict liability.
Ignorance is no excuse. If anyone is found delivering, who was not the person they thought should be delivering, and has no right to do so, then they are held liable to a large fine.
That puts the burden on them to find solutions to only let people with permission do their work.
Now define facilitate the order in a way that Deliveroo can’t get out of it
Interesting PB split on this reckless illegal war. Not far off a 50/50 - so more support on here than out 'there'. Bit like the Conservative Party.
I suspect it is more a 30/50/20 with 30 strongly against, 20 typically (with an obvious exception) less strongly in favour and the biggest group a bit resigned about it all, suspicious of motives, hoping it ends quickly and we can all get back to normal.
Yep. Trouble is, this IS normal for Trump2. The next thing could easily be worse. It's going to be a long 4 years.
You think only 4 years? You missed out on Trump 2024, time to get onside with Trump 2028.......
I cannot imagine his health will give him that much longer. He does not convince of a man who will reach a significantly older age than he currently has.
This is all because Labour can’t bear to leave the ECHR and look “cruel” in the upper middle social circles to which they aspire
We need a party and a PM that gives not a fuck what they think in Barnsbury and Brooklyn
Make arriving in Britain without documents illegal. Make crossing the channel without permission illegal. Punish and deport. Job done
That is literally what is already happening. To "punish and deport" you need to catch them, intern them, process them, deport them.
None of those things are simple and every single step gets protested. Which is why no government has managed to properly get on top of it and why Farage wouldn't either if he ever became PM.
The law can be changed.
Australia abolished the crossings by saying you will be immediately deported to another country and processed there. Not spend years in the UK undergoing appeals and processes here: go directly abroad, do not pass go, do not collect £10,000.
How much were Rwanda charging per immigrant?
Australia actually didn’t have much of a problem relative to us.
3,000 miles by boat is very different from 25 miles across a relatively flat channel
Distance is not the big problem, people were making the journey prior to the law being changed there (by the Australian Labor Party).
Once you change the law to "go directly to [Rwanda], do not pass Go, do not collect £10,000" and eliminate processes within this country, then the number of people making the journey would rapidly collapse to zero as it did there, because why bother making the journey if you have no hope of staying here, even as a valid asylum seeker?
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
No reason why Deliveroo couldn't be made responsible.
All it would take is a change in the law. The law can be whatever Parliament votes for it to be.
Fix the mess. That's your job as a Government.
I take it you didn’t read the actual issue. So let’s try a different example which is how do you determine at every point of every delivery that the person you think is delivering the order is the person actually delivering the order
Is the answer digital ID cards?
On one level yes, on another level it’s training everyone to be able to see if the digital ID isn’t a fact one saved as a photo on your phone that you pull up on demand.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
No reason why Deliveroo couldn't be made responsible.
All it would take is a change in the law. The law can be whatever Parliament votes for it to be.
Fix the mess. That's your job as a Government.
Government doesn’t need a new Act to make a dent in this, it just needs to enforce what already exists. - Put the delivery platforms on a short leash: high-frequency, random rider re-verification, proper device binding, and nuke account renting from orbit. - Target the organisers and repeat offenders with Immigration Enforcement ops, not just the bloke on the bike. - Get police doing regular hotspot crackdowns on illegal derestricted e-bikes (if it’s effectively a moped, treat it like one: seize it). - Publicise penalties and actually use them so “facilitating illegal work” becomes financially and reputationally toxic.
This is all doable now. The only thing missing is sustained follow-through.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
I have a sneaking suspicion any crackdown on loopholes in the laws on self employment and sub contracting might not be universally popular on here.
There should be a minimum requirement of £40/hour or £200/day for self-employed contractors running limited companies.
Only Mr. Trump, perhaps, could have harnessed the country’s exhaustion with war and wound up trying make regime change great again.
He is a most unusual figure. But the road to his war was paved by many. Without fundamental change, the United States will remain on the same path — continually resorting to force, at growing cost, in a region of diminishing importance.
The "he shouldn't have glassed that lass, but he's a mate, so I have to support him" argument has no moral justification. And given that said mate is utterly unreliable, no practical one either.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
No reason why Deliveroo couldn't be made responsible.
All it would take is a change in the law. The law can be whatever Parliament votes for it to be.
Fix the mess. That's your job as a Government.
I take it you didn’t read the actual issue. So let’s try a different example which is how do you determine at every point of every delivery that the person you think is delivering the order is the person actually delivering the order
You make the company that facilitated the order (Deliveroo in this instance) subject to strict liability.
Ignorance is no excuse. If anyone is found delivering, who was not the person they thought should be delivering, and has no right to do so, then they are held liable to a large fine.
That puts the burden on them to find solutions to only let people with permission do their work.
Now define facilitate the order in a way that Deliveroo can’t get out of it
An order that Deliveroo has processed and taken any payment for in any form.
McGovern: Republicans can't answer because they were against war with Iran until exactly the second Donald Trump decided to go to war, and now they're all running around sounding like neocon lunatics.
America can't take this level of gaslighting. I went to the classified briefing. There was no imminent threat, I guess, unless Republicans want to redefine the word imminent to mean stretching back 47 years.
This whole thing is just so transparently built on lies. Republicans went from imminent threat to regime change to nukes, back to imminent threat in the last 24 hours. This is Iraq 2.0. I still remember the lies about WMDs. I voted against that war, too. At least George Bush had the decency to lie to people's face.
It's not Donald Trump's kids that will have to go fight and die for their draft dodging dad. It's not the children of of the billionaire Epstein class. It's working class kids who are going to put their lives on the line. Shame on Republicans. I'm sick of this bs. We're spending billions of dollars a day on a war, and we can't even get Republicans to join us to expand health care in America.
How the hell is this America first? You guys broke your top campaign promise. Good luck with that. I hope the defense contractor money was worth it. Shame on you all. The mask is off. You're all just a bunch of pathetic Neocon Warmongers.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Nick Ferrari had it on his LBC show this morning. Phones ringing off the hook about it. People furious !
So just get to the UK and we give you £10k to fly home business class. And buy a new wardrobe and pay off a chunk of your mortgage. Then do it again, and again…
These people don’t need paying they need punishing. Build a supermax jail on the Isle of Sheppey. Arrive in the UK illegally, you get sent there. THEN we send you home after 2 miserable years. We give you NOTHING
Surely part of the T's and C's is that this is a one off thing, and you irrevocably sign away any rights you may have had under any circumstances to claim asylum in the UK at any time in the future, or to enter the UK via any other route*.
At that point, paying people £10k to go away is probably worth it. If the government isn't insisting on this as part of the package, then they are mugs, and crossing the channel, collecting £10k, being back for another next week will be all the rage (aren't some of the "three in, one out" deal lads in their third trip round now?).
*there could possibly be a route to a future legal entry if all the normal qualifications for a visa are met, and the £10k is repaid plus a considerable interest payment.
Interesting PB split on this reckless illegal war. Not far off a 50/50 - so more support on here than out 'there'. Bit like the Conservative Party.
I suspect it is more a 30/50/20 with 30 strongly against, 20 typically (with an obvious exception) less strongly in favour and the biggest group a bit resigned about it all, suspicious of motives, hoping it ends quickly and we can all get back to normal.
Yep. Trouble is, this IS normal for Trump2. The next thing could easily be worse. It's going to be a long 4 years.
You think only 4 years? You missed out on Trump 2024, time to get onside with Trump 2028.......
I cannot imagine his health will give him that much longer. He does not convince of a man who will reach a significantly older age than he currently has.
Perhaps one of the tech bros will create an AI Trump replica to succeed him and he can be the first ETERNAL President?
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
No reason why Deliveroo couldn't be made responsible.
All it would take is a change in the law. The law can be whatever Parliament votes for it to be.
Fix the mess. That's your job as a Government.
I take it you didn’t read the actual issue. So let’s try a different example which is how do you determine at every point of every delivery that the person you think is delivering the order is the person actually delivering the order
You make the company that facilitated the order (Deliveroo in this instance) subject to strict liability.
Ignorance is no excuse. If anyone is found delivering, who was not the person they thought should be delivering, and has no right to do so, then they are held liable to a large fine.
That puts the burden on them to find solutions to only let people with permission do their work.
Now define facilitate the order in a way that Deliveroo can’t get out of it
An order that Deliveroo has processed and taken any payment for in any form.
Yes, UK contract law says that the contract is with the company who takes the money.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
That is exactly what this would do. It would aim to close a large number of loopholes as well.
The scam where care home owners would invent fake jobs and sell visas for them was just part of what is happening.
Now that one has been shut down, the next scam is inventing jobs that pay far more than the visa limit the government sets. Then sell visas for that (handing fees). Which is part of why you see adverts for high paying jobs, which no one replies to.
Someone pays for the visa and when they arrive - no job. Or the job actually pays less than minimum wage.
Just rewatched Wag the Dog, a darkly satirical movie from 1997 about the White House creating a carefully scripted war right before an important election to distract voters from a sex scandal involving an underaged girl. Really. https://x.com/MattKibbe/status/2029253763798589801
You'd have to give me more than £10k to go back to Afghanistan! South Sudan's a bit more problematic but only a bit.
Isn't all this based on a Swedish scheme that seems to work? Or was it Denmark? Or maybe a bit of both.
Questionable the Danish policy does actually work.
Politically it appears to be neutral for the Danish Social Democrats. The gains they have made from anti-immigrant parties are offset by leakage to liberal parties of voters repelled by the policy.
This and other anti-liberal policies have been a disaster for Starmer and Labour, as shown in Gorton and Denon where Labour has lost half its previous voters to the Greens, while not picking up any voters from Reform, ending up third in a previously safe Labour seat.
The actual effects of the policy on migrants and society are hard to determine but there is a measurable worsening of integration.
Raskin: I heard one of our colleagues across the aisle just say, “Well, yes, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 does give Congress the exclusive, plenary, comprehensive power to declare war and not the president. And we could be debating it, but the president has already taken us to war, so it’s too late. It would undermine the cause for us to debate it.” .. https://x.com/Acyn/status/2029312275476299920
Raskin: I heard one of our colleagues across the aisle just say, “Well, yes, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 does give Congress the exclusive, plenary, comprehensive power to declare war and not the president. And we could be debating it, but the president has already taken us to war, so it’s too late. It would undermine the cause for us to debate it.” .. https://x.com/Acyn/status/2029312275476299920
That clause is obsolete.
Virtually every single President since WWII has taken America into conflicts without Congressional approval.
Not one President since WWII has achieved Congressional approval for going into a conflict.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The trouble is a significant segment of the voters wants to believe in Farage's MIT - Magic Immigration Tree, whereby simply deploying the Royal Navy in the Channel magically ends all the problems.
Surely the Iran war has demonstrated that we don't seem to have a functioning Royal Navy we can deploy...
It has been reported that Trump / Israelis was never asking Starmer to actually be involved in attacking Iran, it was simply about being allowed to use airbases because they don't think we really have much to capability these days to add anything extra to an attack compared to combined might of the US / Israelis.
And they'd be right. When you consider the commitments the UK has in terms of defending the Falklands, Britain, Eastern Europe, wherever. The problems with maintenance due to funding squeezes. How many spare aircraft does the UK have that it could deploy to an operation in the Middle East?
I think I saw that UK F-35B aircraft were being used in defence of Cyprus. If I remember correctly the F35B is the carrier variant of the F35. The British aircraft carriers are currently in Portsmouth (PoW) and off the coast of Nova Scotia (QEII). So it looks like British airpower is so stretched that we've had to send the planes for our carriers to Cyprus (and Britain doesn't have enough F35B's for both carriers to start with).
The British armed forces are a Potemkin force. It's going to take a lot of money, a fair bit of time, and some appropriate focus to start putting it right. [Editor's Note: Current budget plans have spending on Britain's non-nuclear armed forces being cut over the next few years.]
HMS QE is in bits in Rosyth which I guess technically is off the coast of Nova Scotia, just a fucking long way off.
The carriers aren't of any use in this situation because we already have Akrotiri for defending the airspace around Akrotiri. That's what it's for.
The 35 Bravo vs drone shoot down wasn't to protect Crab Air's Mediterranean STD incubator, it was over Jordan to protect "coalition forces". i.e. The Zionist Entity.
This is all because Labour can’t bear to leave the ECHR and look “cruel” in the upper middle social circles to which they aspire
We need a party and a PM that gives not a fuck what they think in Barnsbury and Brooklyn
Make arriving in Britain without documents illegal. Make crossing the channel without permission illegal. Punish and deport. Job done
That is literally what is already happening. To "punish and deport" you need to catch them, intern them, process them, deport them.
None of those things are simple and every single step gets protested. Which is why no government has managed to properly get on top of it and why Farage wouldn't either if he ever became PM.
The law can be changed.
Australia abolished the crossings by saying you will be immediately deported to another country and processed there. Not spend years in the UK undergoing appeals and processes here: go directly abroad, do not pass go, do not collect £10,000.
How much were Rwanda charging per immigrant?
Australia actually didn’t have much of a problem relative to us.
3,000 miles by boat is very different from 25 miles across a relatively flat channel
Selective mining of beaches knowing where every mine is to ease removal
Ask the Germans to man gun turrets
Barbed wire for 30 miles
Make the distance so large it's mot in range.
Declare Minefield for 5 years Verboten
Stop the flow Recompense those businesses affected
On the "voluntary repatriation" question, I'm unclear as to whether this applies to rejected asylum seekers (why would it, they will be deported anyway?) or to those who were once granted asylum but now wish to return home.
Even during Freedom of Movement, if someone from within the EU wanted to go back to their country of origin but didn't have the funds, the fare would be paid to get them back - that offer was usually refused as sleeping rough in East London was deemed preferable to having a roof in Romania or elsewhere.
Sweden (or Denmark) has offered individuals money to renounce citizenship and return to the country of origin so if a Syrian refugee (for example) wanted to go back and help rebuild, they would be offered an amount of money to return and any left over would presumably help the reconstruction of the local economy.
I imagine the "line" among many here would be compulsory repatriation for not just failed asylum seekers but all successful ones and many other British citizens whose skin colour, religion and choice of football team aren't part of the "cultural fit".
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
No reason why Deliveroo couldn't be made responsible.
All it would take is a change in the law. The law can be whatever Parliament votes for it to be.
Fix the mess. That's your job as a Government.
I take it you didn’t read the actual issue. So let’s try a different example which is how do you determine at every point of every delivery that the person you think is delivering the order is the person actually delivering the order
You make the company that facilitated the order (Deliveroo in this instance) subject to strict liability.
Ignorance is no excuse. If anyone is found delivering, who was not the person they thought should be delivering, and has no right to do so, then they are held liable to a large fine.
That puts the burden on them to find solutions to only let people with permission do their work.
Now define facilitate the order in a way that Deliveroo can’t get out of it
Draft the law to an unlimited max fine, catch one illegal Deliveroo rider properly and levy a US style class action type fine on Deliveroo.
Interesting PB split on this reckless illegal war. Not far off a 50/50 - so more support on here than out 'there'. Bit like the Conservative Party.
I suspect it is more a 30/50/20 with 30 strongly against, 20 typically (with an obvious exception) less strongly in favour and the biggest group a bit resigned about it all, suspicious of motives, hoping it ends quickly and we can all get back to normal.
Yep. Trouble is, this IS normal for Trump2. The next thing could easily be worse. It's going to be a long 4 years.
You think only 4 years? You missed out on Trump 2024, time to get onside with Trump 2028.......
The chances of Trump seeing out his term diminish further with every passing day
Raskin: I heard one of our colleagues across the aisle just say, “Well, yes, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 does give Congress the exclusive, plenary, comprehensive power to declare war and not the president. And we could be debating it, but the president has already taken us to war, so it’s too late. It would undermine the cause for us to debate it.” .. https://x.com/Acyn/status/2029312275476299920
That clause is obsolete.
Virtually every single President since WWII has taken America into conflicts without Congressional approval.
Not one President since WWII has achieved Congressional approval for going into a conflict.
Whoever would have imagined that a 200+ year old document written by a slave owning oligarchy, far from being a shining light for the whole world to envy, might be a bit not fit for the modern age?
Interesting PB split on this reckless illegal war. Not far off a 50/50 - so more support on here than out 'there'. Bit like the Conservative Party.
I suspect it is more a 30/50/20 with 30 strongly against, 20 typically (with an obvious exception) less strongly in favour and the biggest group a bit resigned about it all, suspicious of motives, hoping it ends quickly and we can all get back to normal.
Yep. Trouble is, this IS normal for Trump2. The next thing could easily be worse. It's going to be a long 4 years.
You think only 4 years? You missed out on Trump 2024, time to get onside with Trump 2028.......
The chances of Trump seeing out his term diminish further with every passing day
Interesting PB split on this reckless illegal war. Not far off a 50/50 - so more support on here than out 'there'. Bit like the Conservative Party.
I suspect it is more a 30/50/20 with 30 strongly against, 20 typically (with an obvious exception) less strongly in favour and the biggest group a bit resigned about it all, suspicious of motives, hoping it ends quickly and we can all get back to normal.
Yep. Trouble is, this IS normal for Trump2. The next thing could easily be worse. It's going to be a long 4 years.
You think only 4 years? You missed out on Trump 2024, time to get onside with Trump 2028.......
The chances of Trump seeing out his term diminish further with every passing day
I’m keen to do the indoor food market, Buda Castle, the shoes and the Basilica
Anything else ?
Wifey and I are foody too.
Stopping in the Aria. So slumming it by PB standards.
One of Budapest's historic Turkish baths. I have been to the one at Hotel Gellért (stand in film location for any Belle Epoque hotel ) but there are several others.
Budapest has a lively arts scene - check What's On if anything interests you and your wife.
Plenty of good restaurants but not able to recommend any particular ones as it's been a while since I was there.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
That is exactly what this would do. It would aim to close a large number of loopholes as well.
The scam where care home owners would invent fake jobs and sell visas for them was just part of what is happening.
Now that one has been shut down, the next scam is inventing jobs that pay far more than the visa limit the government sets. Then sell visas for that (handing fees). Which is part of why you see adverts for high paying jobs, which no one replies to.
Someone pays for the visa and when they arrive - no job. Or the job actually pays less than minimum wage.
One of the lessons learned in the sandpit in the past couple of decades, is that “agencies” are all fraudsters.
The immigrant employee needs to apply directly to the government for visas, with no-one else in the way. Their employer can apply on their behalf, if that employer commits to paying the agreed salary every month through an escrow provider.
Raskin: I heard one of our colleagues across the aisle just say, “Well, yes, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 does give Congress the exclusive, plenary, comprehensive power to declare war and not the president. And we could be debating it, but the president has already taken us to war, so it’s too late. It would undermine the cause for us to debate it.” .. https://x.com/Acyn/status/2029312275476299920
That clause is obsolete.
Virtually every single President since WWII has taken America into conflicts without Congressional approval.
Not one President since WWII has achieved Congressional approval for going into a conflict.
Complete and utter balls.
The only reason the Senate isn't enforcing its powers under this clause is that the Republicans refuse to do so - and indeed just voted against doing so. It doesn't make the power "obsolete", while the US remains a constitutional democracy,
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
No reason why Deliveroo couldn't be made responsible.
All it would take is a change in the law. The law can be whatever Parliament votes for it to be.
Fix the mess. That's your job as a Government.
I take it you didn’t read the actual issue. So let’s try a different example which is how do you determine at every point of every delivery that the person you think is delivering the order is the person actually delivering the order
Is the answer digital ID cards?
On one level yes, on another level it’s training everyone to be able to see if the digital ID isn’t a fact one saved as a photo on your phone that you pull up on demand.
It would be trivial to create an app, as part of a minimal ID scheme, that when presented with the QR code on the card, looks up the individual. And/or a website.
If he/she exists, the photo and name are displayed. So copying/lending a card would get the wrong photo.
I spoke to my family's Iranian heritage friends who have been giving me the grim updates about the regime.
In short the Americans and Israelis have the lost the Iranian people, the indiscriminate bombing and sheer nastiness of the targeting shows this isn't about nukes.
They never thought they'd cheer the fact that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is alive, somebody needs to explain how somebody who is nearly 70, been out of power for years, has nothing to do with the nuclear plans now was targeted?
It has damaged the dissident movement, it has allowed the Mullahs to say the dissidents are the Zionist's useful idiots.
And I've spoken to Iranians in exile (not just "heritage" friends, who happen to share my exact political opinions) who say the precise opposite and cheer regime change.
What we have here is Trump Derangement Syndrome on an absolutely epic scale and, because Israel is involved, that being supercharged on steroids.
Let's set aside whether regime change is legal or not.
Is this regime change? It wasn't in Venezuela - the regime continues with a new leader. And Iran has a new leader and the regime continues.
Is there a war plan for regime change? To be executed how? Who is to replace the regime?
This is the essentials of the war plan.
Hegseth: Flying over their capital. Death and destruction from the sky all day long. We're playing for keeps. Our warfighters have maximum authorities granted personally by the president and yours truly. Our rules of engagement are bold, precise, and designed to unleash American power, not shackle it. This was never meant to be a fair fight, and it is not a fair fight. We are punching them while they're down, which is exactly how it should be. https://x.com/Acyn/status/2029182895013916898
I don't believe anything beyond that has been made public. Or even communicated with US allies.
In case you don't think that comment from Hegseth characteristic.
I don’t know why but the latest official White House post using call of duty video game edit with real war footage as a hype video (complete with “+100” point kill graphics) made me pretty sick to my stomach more than anything else they’ve put out. https://x.com/LumberTrading/status/2029346944943046947
Interesting PB split on this reckless illegal war. Not far off a 50/50 - so more support on here than out 'there'. Bit like the Conservative Party.
I suspect it is more a 30/50/20 with 30 strongly against, 20 typically (with an obvious exception) less strongly in favour and the biggest group a bit resigned about it all, suspicious of motives, hoping it ends quickly and we can all get back to normal.
Yep. Trouble is, this IS normal for Trump2. The next thing could easily be worse. It's going to be a long 4 years.
You think only 4 years? You missed out on Trump 2024, time to get onside with Trump 2028.......
The chances of Trump seeing out his term diminish further with every passing day
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
No reason why Deliveroo couldn't be made responsible.
All it would take is a change in the law. The law can be whatever Parliament votes for it to be.
Fix the mess. That's your job as a Government.
I take it you didn’t read the actual issue. So let’s try a different example which is how do you determine at every point of every delivery that the person you think is delivering the order is the person actually delivering the order
Is the answer digital ID cards?
On one level yes, on another level it’s training everyone to be able to see if the digital ID isn’t a fact one saved as a photo on your phone that you pull up on demand.
It would be trivial to create an app, as part of a minimal ID scheme, that when presented with the QR code on the card, looks up the individual. And/or a website.
If he/she exists, the photo and name are displayed. So copying/lending a card would get the wrong photo.
Still a training issue and you also need the wtf do you do now bit. Mind you a potential £50k award for a citizen’s arrest would encourage people to learn how the software works
Interesting PB split on this reckless illegal war. Not far off a 50/50 - so more support on here than out 'there'. Bit like the Conservative Party.
I suspect it is more a 30/50/20 with 30 strongly against, 20 typically (with an obvious exception) less strongly in favour and the biggest group a bit resigned about it all, suspicious of motives, hoping it ends quickly and we can all get back to normal.
Yep. Trouble is, this IS normal for Trump2. The next thing could easily be worse. It's going to be a long 4 years.
You think only 4 years? You missed out on Trump 2024, time to get onside with Trump 2028.......
I cannot imagine his health will give him that much longer. He does not convince of a man who will reach a significantly older age than he currently has.
Perhaps one of the tech bros will create an AI Trump replica to succeed him and he can be the first ETERNAL President?
Running a few numbers, to get a bit more on the consequences of the oil and gas question.
In 2010 the USA used 1.44x as much oil as the EU. In 2025 it is 1.8x as much.
For gas the ratios are 1.49x and 2.56x .
There are other factors, such as the USA being a major source of oil and gas, but prices are set worldwide.
I'd value comments.
USA is technically self-reliant in oil (fracking is huge in the US) but still needs to trade to get some of the variants: I think from Canada?
But (I think) @rcs1000 is the person to ask for US oil. @Richard_Tyndall works in the industry and may also assist.
Self reliance doesn't matter as much as you'd think, for various reasons.
Firstly, energy prices are interlinked. Oil in particular is a global market. Absent government intevention and local taxes, the prices of various different forms of energy (particularly transportable energy) are highly correlated. Now, this isn't 100% (only a relatively small portion of US natural gas can be exported due to a lack of liquification plants), but it does mean that the US will be significantly (economically) affected by any restriction to global energy supply.
Of course, you might be thinking that the US could simply get around that by ... say ... banning the export of US oil.
But, secondly, even though the US is technically self reliant in oil (as in they use less than they produce), they are big importers. (Because lots of their refineries are setup to process heavy crude, while a lot of the new production is of light crudes and NGLs.) This means they can't just seal themselves off from the rest of the world, and have the government mandate that oil companies sell all their production to Americans at low rates.
Americans drive more than Europeans. They are more reliant on their cars. And their cars are less efficient. This means that if the price of oil rises, people will see it in higher gas (petrol) bills. And given concerns about affordability, this is probably not good news for the Republicans.
Interesting PB split on this reckless illegal war. Not far off a 50/50 - so more support on here than out 'there'. Bit like the Conservative Party.
I suspect it is more a 30/50/20 with 30 strongly against, 20 typically (with an obvious exception) less strongly in favour and the biggest group a bit resigned about it all, suspicious of motives, hoping it ends quickly and we can all get back to normal.
Yep. Trouble is, this IS normal for Trump2. The next thing could easily be worse. It's going to be a long 4 years.
You think only 4 years? You missed out on Trump 2024, time to get onside with Trump 2028.......
I cannot imagine his health will give him that much longer. He does not convince of a man who will reach a significantly older age than he currently has.
Perhaps one of the tech bros will create an AI Trump replica to succeed him and he can be the first ETERNAL President?
Westworld was NOT a documentary...
Not seen it but am a bit bemused as to why of all the sci fi options the world has decided Terminator is the best to recreate. We need John Connor.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
Similarly, years ago the government banned asylum seekers from working, because it was said they were all economic migrants, and if they weren't allowed to work while waiting for their asylum claim to be decided, they wouldn't come. Now people are upset that asylum seekers are housed and fed at the State's expense, rather than working for their living...
Just deport them immediately or stop the boats getting into UK waters, it is a joke.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
The law punishes employers who hire people without the right to work, but there's a massive great loophole in there in that it doesn't include 'independent contractors', which Uber, minicab firms, Deliveroo and the like abuse.
Interesting PB split on this reckless illegal war. Not far off a 50/50 - so more support on here than out 'there'. Bit like the Conservative Party.
I suspect it is more a 30/50/20 with 30 strongly against, 20 typically (with an obvious exception) less strongly in favour and the biggest group a bit resigned about it all, suspicious of motives, hoping it ends quickly and we can all get back to normal.
Yep. Trouble is, this IS normal for Trump2. The next thing could easily be worse. It's going to be a long 4 years.
You think only 4 years? You missed out on Trump 2024, time to get onside with Trump 2028.......
I cannot imagine his health will give him that much longer. He does not convince of a man who will reach a significantly older age than he currently has.
Perhaps one of the tech bros will create an AI Trump replica to succeed him and he can be the first ETERNAL President?
Westworld was NOT a documentary...
Not seen it but am a bit bemused as to why of all the sci fi options the world has decided Terminator is the best to recreate. We need John Connor.
Series 1 is brilliant, with a superb twist. Downhill from there sadly.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
The law punishes employers who hire people without the right to work, but there's a massive great loophole in there in that it doesn't include 'independent contractors', which Uber, minicab firms, Deliveroo and the like abuse.
Yep and all of them do everything they possibly can to ensure they workers are independent contractors.
But hey I’ve spent a couple of hours chatting to the experts on this as to where the snags within UK law are, but that’s not stopped others on here finding quick perfect solutions (which are neither, quick, perfect or practical).
So the public are not behind the government's mishandling of the Iran war. What a massive surprise
Given the inanity of right wing media these days it is surprising that Starmer is not on 0% with their audience. 34% think he is doing a good job, the same as the number of people who voted for him.
Shabana Mahmood confirms that failed asylum seekers will get a £10,000 exit payment to leave voluntarily, up to a maximum of £40,000 per family.
The Home Secretary says this is cheaper than forcibly removing them, which can involve costly court battles.
But this will ask serious questions of our asylum system: Come illegally to Britain, have your claim rejected, and be sent on your way with a five-figure sum.
Anybody remember BASIC?
10 GET ON ILLEGAL BOAT 20 ENTER BRITAIN 30 RECIEVE £10000 40 LEAVE BRITAIN 50 GOTO 10
I do remember basic, but this is how I'd do it now
I think you have to return to your country of origin, so it's not quite as simple as that. Certainly, it's not trivial to get from -say- Afghanistan to the UK.
But for people from North Africa, it's a different story. (Although one would assume with a competent government, those leaving would forfeit any right to return to the UK in any capacity... oh wait... ahhh... I see the issue...)
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The trouble is a significant segment of the voters wants to believe in Farage's MIT - Magic Immigration Tree, whereby simply deploying the Royal Navy in the Channel magically ends all the problems.
Surely the Iran war has demonstrated that we don't seem to have a functioning Royal Navy we can deploy...
It has been reported that Trump / Israelis was never asking Starmer to actually be involved in attacking Iran, it was simply about being allowed to use airbases because they don't think we really have much to capability these days to add anything extra to an attack compared to combined might of the US / Israelis.
And they'd be right. When you consider the commitments the UK has in terms of defending the Falklands, Britain, Eastern Europe, wherever. The problems with maintenance due to funding squeezes. How many spare aircraft does the UK have that it could deploy to an operation in the Middle East?
I think I saw that UK F-35B aircraft were being used in defence of Cyprus. If I remember correctly the F35B is the carrier variant of the F35. The British aircraft carriers are currently in Portsmouth (PoW) and off the coast of Nova Scotia (QEII). So it looks like British airpower is so stretched that we've had to send the planes for our carriers to Cyprus (and Britain doesn't have enough F35B's for both carriers to start with).
The British armed forces are a Potemkin force. It's going to take a lot of money, a fair bit of time, and some appropriate focus to start putting it right. [Editor's Note: Current budget plans have spending on Britain's non-nuclear armed forces being cut over the next few years.]
HMS QE is in bits in Rosyth which I guess technically is off the coast of Nova Scotia, just a fucking long way off.
The carriers aren't of any use in this situation because we already have Akrotiri for defending the airspace around Akrotiri. That's what it's for.
The 35 Bravo vs drone shoot down wasn't to protect Crab Air's Mediterranean STD incubator, it was over Jordan to protect "coalition forces". i.e. The Zionist Entity.
Do you think it's Allah's will that Israel exists?
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
The law punishes employers who hire people without the right to work, but there's a massive great loophole in there in that it doesn't include 'independent contractors', which Uber, minicab firms, Deliveroo and the like abuse.
It should absolutely be on the platforms to vet their contractors.
If I pay Uber and my driver turns out to be a convicted rapist, that needs to be Uber’s problem.
If their vetted driver lets the convicted rapist drive the car, that’s still Uber’s problem, because that’s the company taking the money.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
Similarly, years ago the government banned asylum seekers from working, because it was said they were all economic migrants, and if they weren't allowed to work while waiting for their asylum claim to be decided, they wouldn't come. Now people are upset that asylum seekers are housed and fed at the State's expense, rather than working for their living...
Just deport them immediately or stop the boats getting into UK waters, it is a joke.
"Just deport them immediately" - to where? "stop the boats getting into UK waters" - How? Happy to have the Navy (what navy) sink them and drown those in the boats?
So the public are not behind the government's mishandling of the Iran war. What a massive surprise
Given the inanity of right wing media these days it is surprising that Starmer is not on 0% with their audience. 34% think he is doing a good job, the same as the number of people who voted for him.
This is all because Labour can’t bear to leave the ECHR and look “cruel” in the upper middle social circles to which they aspire
We need a party and a PM that gives not a fuck what they think in Barnsbury and Brooklyn
Make arriving in Britain without documents illegal. Make crossing the channel without permission illegal. Punish and deport. Job done
That is literally what is already happening. To "punish and deport" you need to catch them, intern them, process them, deport them.
None of those things are simple and every single step gets protested. Which is why no government has managed to properly get on top of it and why Farage wouldn't either if he ever became PM.
The law can be changed.
Australia abolished the crossings by saying you will be immediately deported to another country and processed there. Not spend years in the UK undergoing appeals and processes here: go directly abroad, do not pass go, do not collect £10,000.
Offshore processing also makes sure you can't disappear into the local informal labour market.
With that said, Australia does have a bunch of poor Pacific island neighbours who were happy to earn money from having processing centers on them. We don't have that advantage. But I'm sure something could be done. We could probably do something in North Africa.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
Similarly, years ago the government banned asylum seekers from working, because it was said they were all economic migrants, and if they weren't allowed to work while waiting for their asylum claim to be decided, they wouldn't come. Now people are upset that asylum seekers are housed and fed at the State's expense, rather than working for their living...
Just deport them immediately or stop the boats getting into UK waters, it is a joke.
"Just deport them immediately" - to where? "stop the boats getting into UK waters" - How? Happy to have the Navy (what navy) sink them and drown those in the boats?
Raskin: I heard one of our colleagues across the aisle just say, “Well, yes, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 does give Congress the exclusive, plenary, comprehensive power to declare war and not the president. And we could be debating it, but the president has already taken us to war, so it’s too late. It would undermine the cause for us to debate it.” .. https://x.com/Acyn/status/2029312275476299920
That clause is obsolete.
Virtually every single President since WWII has taken America into conflicts without Congressional approval.
Not one President since WWII has achieved Congressional approval for going into a conflict.
Complete and utter balls.
The only reason the Senate isn't enforcing its powers under this clause is that the Republicans refuse to do so - and indeed just voted against doing so. It doesn't make the power "obsolete", while the US remains a constitutional democracy,
Raskin: I heard one of our colleagues across the aisle just say, “Well, yes, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 does give Congress the exclusive, plenary, comprehensive power to declare war and not the president. And we could be debating it, but the president has already taken us to war, so it’s too late. It would undermine the cause for us to debate it.” .. https://x.com/Acyn/status/2029312275476299920
That clause is obsolete.
Virtually every single President since WWII has taken America into conflicts without Congressional approval.
Not one President since WWII has achieved Congressional approval for going into a conflict.
Complete and utter balls.
The only reason the Senate isn't enforcing its powers under this clause is that the Republicans refuse to do so - and indeed just voted against doing so. It doesn't make the power "obsolete", while the US remains a constitutional democracy,
There have been 14 US Presidents since WWII.
Of those the number of US Presidents who have taken America into conflicts without Congressional approval is . . . 14
The number who have not is . . . 0
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 14 times out of 14 . . . sorry, that clause is obsolete.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
The law punishes employers who hire people without the right to work, but there's a massive great loophole in there in that it doesn't include 'independent contractors', which Uber, minicab firms, Deliveroo and the like abuse.
It should absolutely be on the platforms to vet their contractors.
If I pay Uber and my driver turns out to be a convicted rapist, that needs to be Uber’s problem.
If their vetted driver lets the convicted rapist drive the car, that’s still Uber’s problem, because that’s the company taking the money.
The problem you have is that UK (self) employment law boils down to the fact if I can get someone else to do my job for me that allows me to be self employed.
And no one in 60 years has come up with a fix that has a better definition for self employment.
Now it’s utterly insane but right of substitution is the easiest way of showing you are outside IR35
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The trouble is a significant segment of the voters wants to believe in Farage's MIT - Magic Immigration Tree, whereby simply deploying the Royal Navy in the Channel magically ends all the problems.
Surely the Iran war has demonstrated that we don't seem to have a functioning Royal Navy we can deploy...
It has been reported that Trump / Israelis was never asking Starmer to actually be involved in attacking Iran, it was simply about being allowed to use airbases because they don't think we really have much to capability these days to add anything extra to an attack compared to combined might of the US / Israelis.
And they'd be right. When you consider the commitments the UK has in terms of defending the Falklands, Britain, Eastern Europe, wherever. The problems with maintenance due to funding squeezes. How many spare aircraft does the UK have that it could deploy to an operation in the Middle East?
I think I saw that UK F-35B aircraft were being used in defence of Cyprus. If I remember correctly the F35B is the carrier variant of the F35. The British aircraft carriers are currently in Portsmouth (PoW) and off the coast of Nova Scotia (QEII). So it looks like British airpower is so stretched that we've had to send the planes for our carriers to Cyprus (and Britain doesn't have enough F35B's for both carriers to start with).
The British armed forces are a Potemkin force. It's going to take a lot of money, a fair bit of time, and some appropriate focus to start putting it right. [Editor's Note: Current budget plans have spending on Britain's non-nuclear armed forces being cut over the next few years.]
If this is true of the RN and RAF, it can also be true of the USN and the USAF. I have had misgivings about these attacks since they were launched. The damage that the Americans have been taking- accurate missile attacks against specific radar installations, and buildings within military bases shows that the Iranians are much stronger than, for example, the Russians.
The massive use of counter measures is not sustainable- there are not sufficient anti missile systems available to defend the myriad of bases in Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, KSA and UAE.
The truth is that Trump has blundered into a war without a clear plan to set, let alone achieve, the goals now declared. The idea that messianic visions can achieve victory is disturbing because it is totally irrational and reflects the utterly unprofessional leadership in the Pentagon.
The continuing threats and bullying *of NATO alies* will not get Trump what he wants, and the UK and the EU NATO states should not be forced into backing the USA in their incompetently planned and strategically misconceived mess.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
The law punishes employers who hire people without the right to work, but there's a massive great loophole in there in that it doesn't include 'independent contractors', which Uber, minicab firms, Deliveroo and the like abuse.
It should absolutely be on the platforms to vet their contractors.
If I pay Uber and my driver turns out to be a convicted rapist, that needs to be Uber’s problem.
If their vetted driver lets the convicted rapist drive the car, that’s still Uber’s problem, because that’s the company taking the money.
Yes; unfortunately, that's not the way it works right now.
There need to be extremely large fines -as there are in Norway- to make sure that platform companies enforce the law.
Interesting PB split on this reckless illegal war. Not far off a 50/50 - so more support on here than out 'there'. Bit like the Conservative Party.
I suspect it is more a 30/50/20 with 30 strongly against, 20 typically (with an obvious exception) less strongly in favour and the biggest group a bit resigned about it all, suspicious of motives, hoping it ends quickly and we can all get back to normal.
Yep. Trouble is, this IS normal for Trump2. The next thing could easily be worse. It's going to be a long 4 years.
You think only 4 years? You missed out on Trump 2024, time to get onside with Trump 2028.......
I cannot imagine his health will give him that much longer. He does not convince of a man who will reach a significantly older age than he currently has.
Perhaps one of the tech bros will create an AI Trump replica to succeed him and he can be the first ETERNAL President?
Westworld was NOT a documentary...
Not seen it but am a bit bemused as to why of all the sci fi options the world has decided Terminator is the best to recreate. We need John Connor.
Series 1 is brilliant, with a superb twist. Downhill from there sadly.
Think that is a very typical pattern. Death counts in a lot of dramas rise exponentially by series at the expense of believability. Very few can carry that off (Breaking Bad), far more common is it getting silly pretty quickly (24, Sons of Anarchy, Peaky Blinders).
Similar pattern in comedy, a lot of comedians have enough great material for their first couple of shows and then struggle to produce anything of quality ever again. Doesn't seem to apply in quite the same way for musicians.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
No reason why Deliveroo couldn't be made responsible.
All it would take is a change in the law. The law can be whatever Parliament votes for it to be.
Fix the mess. That's your job as a Government.
I take it you didn’t read the actual issue. So let’s try a different example which is how do you determine at every point of every delivery that the person you think is delivering the order is the person actually delivering the order
Every smartphone has biometric verification. The person who's account it is will need to provide their biometric data on sign up and then the person doing the deliveries will need to verify on device their biometrics randomly a few times an hour. If there are mismatches the account is flagged and suspended. It's really not very difficult. Make the rider app incompatible with devices that don't have biometric verification or have sideloading enabled.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
The law punishes employers who hire people without the right to work, but there's a massive great loophole in there in that it doesn't include 'independent contractors', which Uber, minicab firms, Deliveroo and the like abuse.
It should absolutely be on the platforms to vet their contractors.
If I pay Uber and my driver turns out to be a convicted rapist, that needs to be Uber’s problem.
If their vetted driver lets the convicted rapist drive the car, that’s still Uber’s problem, because that’s the company taking the money.
Yes; unfortunately, that's not the way it works right now.
There need to be extremely large fines -as there are in Norway- to make sure that platform companies enforce the law.
Surely it should need only one rape, before the courts shut down the entire business model?
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
These bikes that zoom about on pavements and cycle lanes, seemingly without the need to pedal. They seem to me to be the easy enforcement option, should one be needed.
Indeed: there are people who are basically on motorbikes*, and there is essentially zero enforcement.
Electric bikes with throttles should be treated as motorcycles, and require registration, tax, insurance and a license. If you ride an illegal vehicle, it should (a) be impounded, and (b) you should face prosecution.
The Lebanese government announced: canceling visa-free entry for Iranian citizens into the country, declaring a ban on the activity of Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) personnel in the country.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
The law punishes employers who hire people without the right to work, but there's a massive great loophole in there in that it doesn't include 'independent contractors', which Uber, minicab firms, Deliveroo and the like abuse.
It should absolutely be on the platforms to vet their contractors.
If I pay Uber and my driver turns out to be a convicted rapist, that needs to be Uber’s problem.
If their vetted driver lets the convicted rapist drive the car, that’s still Uber’s problem, because that’s the company taking the money.
Yes; unfortunately, that's not the way it works right now.
There need to be extremely large fines -as there are in Norway- to make sure that platform companies enforce the law.
Surely it should need only one rape, before the courts shut down the entire business model?
The business model shouldn't be illegal (there's nothing wrong with independent contractors), but those taking the money should be taking the responsibility.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
No reason why Deliveroo couldn't be made responsible.
All it would take is a change in the law. The law can be whatever Parliament votes for it to be.
Fix the mess. That's your job as a Government.
I take it you didn’t read the actual issue. So let’s try a different example which is how do you determine at every point of every delivery that the person you think is delivering the order is the person actually delivering the order
Spot checks.
The police setup Deliveroo / Just Eat accounts, and order a pizza or six.
If the person who delivers the food is not allowed to work in the UK, Deliveroo / Just Eat gets 100k fine. Every time it happens, the fine doubles.
Just Eat / Deliveroo would rapidly find a technical solution to the problem.
Shabana Mahmood confirms that failed asylum seekers will get a £10,000 exit payment to leave voluntarily, up to a maximum of £40,000 per family.
The Home Secretary says this is cheaper than forcibly removing them, which can involve costly court battles.
But this will ask serious questions of our asylum system: Come illegally to Britain, have your claim rejected, and be sent on your way with a five-figure sum.
Anybody remember BASIC?
10 GET ON ILLEGAL BOAT 20 ENTER BRITAIN 30 RECIEVE £10000 40 LEAVE BRITAIN 50 GOTO 10
I do remember basic, but this is how I'd do it now
I think you have to return to your country of origin, so it's not quite as simple as that. Certainly, it's not trivial to get from -say- Afghanistan to the UK.
But for people from North Africa, it's a different story. (Although one would assume with a competent government, those leaving would forfeit any right to return to the UK in any capacity... oh wait... ahhh... I see the issue...)
If you are French can you apply? I mean its a shithole over there...
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
Similarly, years ago the government banned asylum seekers from working, because it was said they were all economic migrants, and if they weren't allowed to work while waiting for their asylum claim to be decided, they wouldn't come. Now people are upset that asylum seekers are housed and fed at the State's expense, rather than working for their living...
Just deport them immediately or stop the boats getting into UK waters, it is a joke.
"Just deport them immediately" - to where? "stop the boats getting into UK waters" - How? Happy to have the Navy (what navy) sink them and drown those in the boats?
Scotland.
And then we can put a massive great wall.
I believe the foundations are already in place just north of Berwick
Raskin: I heard one of our colleagues across the aisle just say, “Well, yes, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 does give Congress the exclusive, plenary, comprehensive power to declare war and not the president. And we could be debating it, but the president has already taken us to war, so it’s too late. It would undermine the cause for us to debate it.” .. https://x.com/Acyn/status/2029312275476299920
That clause is obsolete.
Virtually every single President since WWII has taken America into conflicts without Congressional approval.
Not one President since WWII has achieved Congressional approval for going into a conflict.
Complete and utter balls.
The only reason the Senate isn't enforcing its powers under this clause is that the Republicans refuse to do so - and indeed just voted against doing so. It doesn't make the power "obsolete", while the US remains a constitutional democracy,
Raskin: I heard one of our colleagues across the aisle just say, “Well, yes, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 does give Congress the exclusive, plenary, comprehensive power to declare war and not the president. And we could be debating it, but the president has already taken us to war, so it’s too late. It would undermine the cause for us to debate it.” .. https://x.com/Acyn/status/2029312275476299920
That clause is obsolete.
Virtually every single President since WWII has taken America into conflicts without Congressional approval.
Not one President since WWII has achieved Congressional approval for going into a conflict.
Complete and utter balls.
The only reason the Senate isn't enforcing its powers under this clause is that the Republicans refuse to do so - and indeed just voted against doing so. It doesn't make the power "obsolete", while the US remains a constitutional democracy,
There have been 14 US Presidents since WWII.
Of those the number of US Presidents who have taken America into conflicts without Congressional approval is . . . 14
The number who have not is . . . 0
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 14 times out of 14 . . . sorry, that clause is obsolete.
Congress did pass -for example- the Gulf of Tonkin resolution authorizing force. Likewise, Afghanstan and Gulf Wars I and II had Congressional approval.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
The law punishes employers who hire people without the right to work, but there's a massive great loophole in there in that it doesn't include 'independent contractors', which Uber, minicab firms, Deliveroo and the like abuse.
Yep and all of them do everything they possibly can to ensure they workers are independent contractors.
But hey I’ve spent a couple of hours chatting to the experts on this as to where the snags within UK law are, but that’s not stopped others on here finding quick perfect solutions (which are neither, quick, perfect or practical).
A relative, who runs a high end building business, talked to some high level people in the civil service (clients) regarding the illegal building trade.
He made the point that, by correlating building work with people withdrawing big piles of cash to pay the builder, you would catch the dodgy builders by the score.
He was told that it was unspoken government policy to let it be.
This was under Blair.
I’m quite sure that every time that coding the employment loopholes is raised, a whole raft of opposition is presented. See the deputation from the care homes when their visa supply was cut off.
I'm wondering what the Venn diagram for enthusiasm for piling red tape on businesses folk don't like, and those advocating removing all regulations for everything else.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
No reason why Deliveroo couldn't be made responsible.
All it would take is a change in the law. The law can be whatever Parliament votes for it to be.
Fix the mess. That's your job as a Government.
I take it you didn’t read the actual issue. So let’s try a different example which is how do you determine at every point of every delivery that the person you think is delivering the order is the person actually delivering the order
Spot checks.
The police setup Deliveroo / Just Eat accounts, and order a pizza or six.
If the person who delivers the food is not allowed to work in the UK, Deliveroo / Just Eat gets 100k fine. Every time it happens, the fine doubles.
Just Eat / Deliveroo would rapidly find a technical solution to the problem.
Knowing our police force they would ask for delivery to the police station
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
No reason why Deliveroo couldn't be made responsible.
All it would take is a change in the law. The law can be whatever Parliament votes for it to be.
Fix the mess. That's your job as a Government.
I take it you didn’t read the actual issue. So let’s try a different example which is how do you determine at every point of every delivery that the person you think is delivering the order is the person actually delivering the order
Spot checks.
The police setup Deliveroo / Just Eat accounts, and order a pizza or six.
If the person who delivers the food is not allowed to work in the UK, Deliveroo / Just Eat gets 100k fine. Every time it happens, the fine doubles.
Just Eat / Deliveroo would rapidly find a technical solution to the problem.
No need to double.
Under my scheme, the deliveroo riders would rock up at the police station.
Of course, there would be no actual illegal working to report, by the time the law came in.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
These bikes that zoom about on pavements and cycle lanes, seemingly without the need to pedal. They seem to me to be the easy enforcement option, should one be needed.
The Police don't regularly enforce the law in respect illegal bikes (electric or motorcycles) because the only realistic way to stop these people if they try to get away is to knock them off, which opens up PC Plod to investigation, dismissal and possible charges if the scrote on the bike gets hurt.
Interesting PB split on this reckless illegal war. Not far off a 50/50 - so more support on here than out 'there'. Bit like the Conservative Party.
I suspect it is more a 30/50/20 with 30 strongly against, 20 typically (with an obvious exception) less strongly in favour and the biggest group a bit resigned about it all, suspicious of motives, hoping it ends quickly and we can all get back to normal.
Yep. Trouble is, this IS normal for Trump2. The next thing could easily be worse. It's going to be a long 4 years.
You think only 4 years? You missed out on Trump 2024, time to get onside with Trump 2028.......
I cannot imagine his health will give him that much longer. He does not convince of a man who will reach a significantly older age than he currently has.
Perhaps one of the tech bros will create an AI Trump replica to succeed him and he can be the first ETERNAL President?
Westworld was NOT a documentary...
Not seen it but am a bit bemused as to why of all the sci fi options the world has decided Terminator is the best to recreate. We need John Connor.
Series 1 is brilliant, with a superb twist. Downhill from there sadly.
Think that is a very typical pattern. Death counts in a lot of dramas rise exponentially by series at the expense of believability. Very few can carry that off (Breaking Bad), far more common is it getting silly pretty quickly (24, Sons of Anarchy, Peaky Blinders).
Similar pattern in comedy, a lot of comedians have enough great material for their first couple of shows and then struggle to produce anything of quality ever again. Doesn't seem to apply in quite the same way for musicians.
That's pretty true. I think in Westworld the creators/writers had one brilliant idea that worked really well and then tried to do the same in the next three series, with ever decreasing success. If it had been only one series it would have had people clamouring for more. Sadly we got more, and it wasn't as good.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
No reason why Deliveroo couldn't be made responsible.
All it would take is a change in the law. The law can be whatever Parliament votes for it to be.
Fix the mess. That's your job as a Government.
I take it you didn’t read the actual issue. So let’s try a different example which is how do you determine at every point of every delivery that the person you think is delivering the order is the person actually delivering the order
Spot checks.
The police setup Deliveroo / Just Eat accounts, and order a pizza or six.
If the person who delivers the food is not allowed to work in the UK, Deliveroo / Just Eat gets 100k fine. Every time it happens, the fine doubles.
Just Eat / Deliveroo would rapidly find a technical solution to the problem.
Knowing our police force they would ask for delivery to the police station
In the more enterprising stations it may also involve £10k cash to be delivered inside the box instead of the pizza......
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
No reason why Deliveroo couldn't be made responsible.
All it would take is a change in the law. The law can be whatever Parliament votes for it to be.
Fix the mess. That's your job as a Government.
I take it you didn’t read the actual issue. So let’s try a different example which is how do you determine at every point of every delivery that the person you think is delivering the order is the person actually delivering the order
Spot checks.
The police setup Deliveroo / Just Eat accounts, and order a pizza or six.
If the person who delivers the food is not allowed to work in the UK, Deliveroo / Just Eat gets 100k fine. Every time it happens, the fine doubles.
Just Eat / Deliveroo would rapidly find a technical solution to the problem.
Proof you aren't the police before setting up an account?
I'm wondering what the Venn diagram for enthusiasm for piling red tape on businesses folk don't like, and those advocating removing all regulations for everything else.
I’m an enthusiast for having
- simple regulations - actually enforcing them
It’s already fairly simple to find out someone’s employment status. I help do the paperwork for my relatives business.
The “it’s a bit tricky” brigade are really saying “if I can’t employ people illegally, my costs will go up”
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
Mahmood offfering £10,000 per person with a limit of £40,000 for asylum seekers to return to their country
Not sure that will go down well
Public - Give us solutions to the asylum seeker crisis Govt - Here is a partial solution that saves money and reduces the scale of the crisis Public - Not like that!
The public would prefer a solution which doesn't drive up the numbers of people trying to get here.
What about this -
1) increase the fine for illegal employment or paying less than minimum wage to £100k per instance 2) break the “ltd” and “subcontractor” shielding, used to evade (1) 3) half the fine goes to those giving evidence 4) if those giving evidence need it, they get indefinite leave to remain, plus their £50k 5) announce the law, when passed will come into force 12 months from the passage of the bill.
Call it the Employment Protection Bill.
Edit: this specifically targets the exploiters. Who are the modern equivalent of the worst Victorian factory owners.
Just forcing deliveroo, just eat and Uber Eats to only use people with the right to work would fix half the issue
I often walk past one of the asylum seeker hotels in the toon when parking in Manors and walking into Newcastle. There are a fair few of their bikes outside
There’s no will to deal with it so it persists.
There is a will to deal with the issue, it’s just that Deliveroo and co are doing everything possible to keep the situation as it currently exists.
I was chatting with the civil service policy officer about it last year and it sounded a nightmare trying to find a solution to the current mess now they’ve been ruled as self employed
Deliveroo and co don't set the law, the Government with its landslide majority in Parliament does.
If the Civil Service thinks its a nightmare, then change the goddamn law. Get a bill through our sovereign Parliament.
Changing the law is the goddamn problem - UK employment law is an utter mess, and the issue you need to fix is making someone in the middle of the chain but 3 levels above the illegal worker responsible for the worker being legal.
Now you could make the end user of Deliveroo responsible for the check but that’s not going to go down well.
No reason why Deliveroo couldn't be made responsible.
All it would take is a change in the law. The law can be whatever Parliament votes for it to be.
Fix the mess. That's your job as a Government.
I take it you didn’t read the actual issue. So let’s try a different example which is how do you determine at every point of every delivery that the person you think is delivering the order is the person actually delivering the order
Spot checks.
The police setup Deliveroo / Just Eat accounts, and order a pizza or six.
If the person who delivers the food is not allowed to work in the UK, Deliveroo / Just Eat gets 100k fine. Every time it happens, the fine doubles.
Just Eat / Deliveroo would rapidly find a technical solution to the problem.
And the police get a tasty snack too. Everyone wins.
I'm wondering what the Venn diagram for enthusiasm for piling red tape on businesses folk don't like, and those advocating removing all regulations for everything else.
Government should be putting its resources into dismantling illegal and exploitative industries, and should be leaving the average new company and small business the f**k alone.
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Once you change the law to "go directly to [Rwanda], do not pass Go, do not collect £10,000" and eliminate processes within this country, then the number of people making the journey would rapidly collapse to zero as it did there, because why bother making the journey if you have no hope of staying here, even as a valid asylum seeker?
Government doesn’t need a new Act to make a dent in this, it just needs to enforce what already exists.
- Put the delivery platforms on a short leash: high-frequency, random rider re-verification, proper device binding, and nuke account renting from orbit.
- Target the organisers and repeat offenders with Immigration Enforcement ops, not just the bloke on the bike.
- Get police doing regular hotspot crackdowns on illegal derestricted e-bikes (if it’s effectively a moped, treat it like one: seize it).
- Publicise penalties and actually use them so “facilitating illegal work” becomes financially and reputationally toxic.
This is all doable now. The only thing missing is sustained follow-through.
He is a most unusual figure. But the road to his war was paved by many. Without fundamental change, the United States will remain on the same path — continually resorting to force, at growing cost, in a region of diminishing importance.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/05/opinion/iran-trump-war-foreign-policy.html
And given that said mate is utterly unreliable, no practical one either.
America can't take this level of gaslighting. I went to the classified briefing. There was no imminent threat, I guess, unless Republicans want to redefine the word imminent to mean stretching back 47 years.
This whole thing is just so transparently built on lies. Republicans went from imminent threat to regime change to nukes, back to imminent threat in the last 24 hours. This is Iraq 2.0. I still remember the lies about WMDs. I voted against that war, too. At least George Bush had the decency to lie to people's face.
It's not Donald Trump's kids that will have to go fight and die for their draft dodging dad. It's not the children of of the billionaire Epstein class. It's working class kids who are going to put their lives on the line. Shame on Republicans. I'm sick of this bs. We're spending billions of dollars a day on a war, and we can't even get Republicans to join us to expand health care in America.
How the hell is this America first? You guys broke your top campaign promise. Good luck with that. I hope the defense contractor money was worth it. Shame on you all. The mask is off. You're all just a bunch of pathetic Neocon Warmongers.
https://x.com/Acyn/status/2029320414485463300
At that point, paying people £10k to go away is probably worth it. If the government isn't insisting on this as part of the package, then they are mugs, and crossing the channel, collecting £10k, being back for another next week will be all the rage (aren't some of the "three in, one out" deal lads in their third trip round now?).
*there could possibly be a route to a future legal entry if all the normal qualifications for a visa are met, and the £10k is repaid plus a considerable interest payment.
Follow the money.
The scam where care home owners would invent fake jobs and sell visas for them was just part of what is happening.
Now that one has been shut down, the next scam is inventing jobs that pay far more than the visa limit the government sets. Then sell visas for that (handing fees). Which is part of why you see adverts for high paying jobs, which no one replies to.
Someone pays for the visa and when they arrive - no job. Or the job actually pays less than minimum wage.
Just rewatched Wag the Dog, a darkly satirical movie from 1997 about the White House creating a carefully scripted war right before an important election to distract voters from a sex scandal involving an underaged girl. Really.
https://x.com/MattKibbe/status/2029253763798589801
Politically it appears to be neutral for the Danish Social Democrats. The gains they have made from anti-immigrant parties are offset by leakage to liberal parties of voters repelled by the policy.
This and other anti-liberal policies have been a disaster for Starmer and Labour, as shown in Gorton and Denon where Labour has lost half its previous voters to the Greens, while not picking up any voters from Reform, ending up third in a previously safe Labour seat.
The actual effects of the policy on migrants and society are hard to determine but there is a measurable worsening of integration.
https://ukandeu.ac.uk/denmarks-migration-policy-an-example-to-follow/
Raskin: I heard one of our colleagues across the aisle just say, “Well, yes, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 does give Congress the exclusive, plenary, comprehensive power to declare war and not the president. And we could be debating it, but the president has already taken us to war, so it’s too late. It would undermine the cause for us to debate it.” ..
https://x.com/Acyn/status/2029312275476299920
Virtually every single President since WWII has taken America into conflicts without Congressional approval.
Not one President since WWII has achieved Congressional approval for going into a conflict.
Ask the Germans to man gun turrets
Barbed wire for 30 miles
Make the distance so large it's mot in range.
Declare Minefield for 5 years Verboten
Stop the flow
Recompense those businesses affected
Not rocket science
Even during Freedom of Movement, if someone from within the EU wanted to go back to their country of origin but didn't have the funds, the fare would be paid to get them back - that offer was usually refused as sleeping rough in East London was deemed preferable to having a roof in Romania or elsewhere.
Sweden (or Denmark) has offered individuals money to renounce citizenship and return to the country of origin so if a Syrian refugee (for example) wanted to go back and help rebuild, they would be offered an amount of money to return and any left over would presumably help the reconstruction of the local economy.
I imagine the "line" among many here would be compulsory repatriation for not just failed asylum seekers but all successful ones and many other British citizens whose skin colour, religion and choice of football team aren't part of the "cultural fit".
Has anyone told Hollywood?
Budapest has a lively arts scene - check What's On if anything interests you and your wife.
Plenty of good restaurants but not able to recommend any particular ones as it's been a while since I was there.
The immigrant employee needs to apply directly to the government for visas, with no-one else in the way. Their employer can apply on their behalf, if that employer commits to paying the agreed salary every month through an escrow provider.
The only reason the Senate isn't enforcing its powers under this clause is that the Republicans refuse to do so - and indeed just voted against doing so. It doesn't make the power "obsolete", while the US remains a constitutional democracy,
If he/she exists, the photo and name are displayed. So copying/lending a card would get the wrong photo.
https://x.com/i/status/2029552157813313548
https://x.com/i/status/2029552155162513704
Firstly, energy prices are interlinked. Oil in particular is a global market. Absent government intevention and local taxes, the prices of various different forms of energy (particularly transportable energy) are highly correlated. Now, this isn't 100% (only a relatively small portion of US natural gas can be exported due to a lack of liquification plants), but it does mean that the US will be significantly (economically) affected by any restriction to global energy supply.
Of course, you might be thinking that the US could simply get around that by ... say ... banning the export of US oil.
But, secondly, even though the US is technically self reliant in oil (as in they use less than they produce), they are big importers. (Because lots of their refineries are setup to process heavy crude, while a lot of the new production is of light crudes and NGLs.) This means they can't just seal themselves off from the rest of the world, and have the government mandate that oil companies sell all their production to Americans at low rates.
Americans drive more than Europeans. They are more reliant on their cars. And their cars are less efficient. This means that if the price of oil rises, people will see it in higher gas (petrol) bills. And given concerns about affordability, this is probably not good news for the Republicans.
Spain has a 2-3 day head start being closer so that’s hardly fair
What a massive surprise
Some people think he should have not allowed any US aircraft at all from UK bases v those who think he should have been more bullish .
The question picks up 2 extremes of dissatisfaction
Too much towards War
About Right Balance
Too little against War
Would be more representive.
The question should be about War Policy
Too aggressive
About Right
Not aggressive enough
But hey I’ve spent a couple of hours chatting to the experts on this as to where the snags within UK law are, but that’s not stopped others on here finding quick perfect solutions (which are neither, quick, perfect or practical).
But for people from North Africa, it's a different story. (Although one would assume with a competent government, those leaving would forfeit any right to return to the UK in any capacity... oh wait... ahhh... I see the issue...)
If I pay Uber and my driver turns out to be a convicted rapist, that needs to be Uber’s problem.
If their vetted driver lets the convicted rapist drive the car, that’s still Uber’s problem, because that’s the company taking the money.
"stop the boats getting into UK waters" - How? Happy to have the Navy (what navy) sink them and drown those in the boats?
With that said, Australia does have a bunch of poor Pacific island neighbours who were happy to earn money from having processing centers on them. We don't have that advantage. But I'm sure something could be done. We could probably do something in North Africa.
No appetite for deep involvement though
Almost none at all for no involvement
And then we can put a massive great wall.
Of those the number of US Presidents who have taken America into conflicts without Congressional approval is . . . 14
The number who have not is . . . 0
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 14 times out of 14 . . . sorry, that clause is obsolete.
And no one in 60 years has come up with a fix that has a better definition for self employment.
Now it’s utterly insane but right of substitution is the easiest way of showing you are outside IR35
The massive use of counter measures is not sustainable- there are not sufficient anti missile systems available to defend the myriad of bases in Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, KSA and UAE.
The truth is that Trump has blundered into a war without a clear plan to set, let alone achieve, the goals now declared. The idea that messianic visions can achieve victory is disturbing because it is totally irrational and reflects the utterly unprofessional leadership in the Pentagon.
The continuing threats and bullying *of NATO alies* will not get Trump what he wants, and the UK and the EU NATO states should not be forced into backing the USA in their incompetently planned and strategically misconceived mess.
This is indeed going to be Trump's Suez.
There need to be extremely large fines -as there are in Norway- to make sure that platform companies enforce the law.
Similar pattern in comedy, a lot of comedians have enough great material for their first couple of shows and then struggle to produce anything of quality ever again. Doesn't seem to apply in quite the same way for musicians.
International Law...not involved....defensive actions....
Electric bikes with throttles should be treated as motorcycles, and require registration, tax, insurance and a license. If you ride an illegal vehicle, it should (a) be impounded, and (b) you should face prosecution.
* Which are illegal under current law.
The Lebanese government announced: canceling visa-free entry for Iranian citizens into the country, declaring a ban on the activity of Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) personnel in the country.
The police setup Deliveroo / Just Eat accounts, and order a pizza or six.
If the person who delivers the food is not allowed to work in the UK, Deliveroo / Just Eat gets 100k fine. Every time it happens, the fine doubles.
Just Eat / Deliveroo would rapidly find a technical solution to the problem.
https://x.com/joanireid/status/2013296482510602537?s=61
He made the point that, by correlating building work with people withdrawing big piles of cash to pay the builder, you would catch the dodgy builders by the score.
He was told that it was unspoken government policy to let it be.
This was under Blair.
I’m quite sure that every time that coding the employment loopholes is raised, a whole raft of opposition is presented. See the deputation from the care homes when their visa supply was cut off.
Under my scheme, the deliveroo riders would rock up at the police station.
Of course, there would be no actual illegal working to report, by the time the law came in.
Big numbers.
- simple regulations
- actually enforcing them
It’s already fairly simple to find out someone’s employment status. I help do the paperwork for my relatives business.
The “it’s a bit tricky” brigade are really saying “if I can’t employ people illegally, my costs will go up”