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  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,080

    Scott_xP said:

    @JStein_WaPo

    SCOOP: Trump aides are struggling to spend an extra $500 billion on the military, delaying budget

    Trump agreed to Hegseth’s bid for *~50%~* military spending boost

    Vought & others objected internally

    It’s so much $ they can’t figure out how to spend it

    https://x.com/JStein_WaPo/status/2025187555189150155?s=20

    MAGA is so often performative. It’s about generating social media headlines. A big increase in military spending sounds good. They don’t care that there’s no actual plan what to do with money.

    Reform or Restore would be the same here.
    What do you think Britain is doing at the moment? We are touting a big increase in the headline figure military spend, and planning to use it to pay for Chagos. Presumably we can deter the enemy parachute regiments by waving the Chagos agreement at them.
    We haven’t increased our military budget by 50% and left an alcoholic misogynist in charge of how to spend the money, so, no, I don’t see the similarity.
    Then let me help you. It is a performative increase, with no plan on how to use the additional budget to better protect the nation. So exactly what you just decribed.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,080
    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    Mine wasn't junk mail. It had useful information on it. He thought it was junk mail but I wasn't to know that and didn't want to deny him the choice.
    Every purveyor of junk mail thinks their junk mail has useful information in it. It was publicity material aimed at persuading the recipient, not a personal letter or a personal bill. That is junk mail.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,674

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    I tend to just enjoy having fun with canvassers by finding incredibly obscure or entirely made up reasons I wouldnt be voting for their party.
    'Not after the Falconsgate thing mate, no'
    It was the poor old Greens before i moved, they were the only ones who bothered. Clive Lewis lot just used to leaflet and run and the Tories snd LD gave up long ago.
    Im expecting Ref and Con to come calling here. The Tory might get a cuppa if Im in a good mood, Reform will be told not until Nigel addresses that whole Fishing farrago.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,542

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    It does seem like a lot of people are on a hair trigger these days. It's weird. Whatever happened to the rule that if you haven't got something nice to say then don't say anything at all? People do annoying things to me all day long, but do I ever say anything to them about it? Of course I don't! I go home and complain to my wife about it instead.
    Goodness, if we go down that road I'm going to have to listen to my wife's complaints.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 521
    Dura_Ace said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:
    I have posted on PB a few times over the years that a senior politician once told me that they wouldn’t be surprised to wake up one day to the news that Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor’s bodyguards had shot and killed AMW.

    Getting Indiraed is the technical term.
    I wonder if he sometimes now wishes they had.
    I do wonder in all this if AMW may compromise his brother, or even if Charles is interviewed over just what he knew when his mother and himself paid the money to Virginia Giuffre

    This could get even more of a problem for the royals
    If anything Charles has come out well this week, especially once it became clear he advised against his brother being appointed the trade envoy where he leaked inforrmation but his mother overruled him and Mandelson ensured Andrew got the job anyway.

    Andrew has of course faced no charges as yet about sex and was only arrested in relation to leaking information as a trade envoy
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/38288484/mandelson-pushed-prince-andrew-trade-envoy-despite-king-concerns/
    As PB’s premier royalist, what do your think of Andrew paying £12m of the queen’s (and possibly others’) money with her full support to a woman he said he’d never met, for something he never did?
    A civil settlement but he has faced no criminal charges or even been arrested in connection with Giuffre
    A civil settlement for what ?

    That has to be investigated
    No it doesn't, there is a much lower burden of evidence required in a civil than criminal case
    I do not think you quite understand how serious all this is

    The question is why did such a huge sum of money have to be paid with the late queen and charles knowledge to an accuser of AMW, and who sadly committed suicide
    If the late Queen wished to spend some of her money for a civil settlement between Andrew and Giuffre that was her business, she is dead now anyway so can't be questioned on it
    1.5m of it apparently came from one of the other crowned thieves. Probably Chaz as I doubt any of the others would have the means or motivation to drop a seven figure sum in hush money to a teenage sex slave. He has Questions To Answer.
    shame you can't FOI the Royal family
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 18,934

    Scott_xP said:

    @JStein_WaPo

    SCOOP: Trump aides are struggling to spend an extra $500 billion on the military, delaying budget

    Trump agreed to Hegseth’s bid for *~50%~* military spending boost

    Vought & others objected internally

    It’s so much $ they can’t figure out how to spend it

    https://x.com/JStein_WaPo/status/2025187555189150155?s=20

    MAGA is so often performative. It’s about generating social media headlines. A big increase in military spending sounds good. They don’t care that there’s no actual plan what to do with money.

    Reform or Restore would be the same here.
    What do you think Britain is doing at the moment? We are touting a big increase in the headline figure military spend, and planning to use it to pay for Chagos. Presumably we can deter the enemy parachute regiments by waving the Chagos agreement at them.
    We haven’t increased our military budget by 50% and left an alcoholic misogynist in charge of how to spend the money, so, no, I don’t see the similarity.
    Then let me help you. It is a performative increase, with no plan on how to use the additional budget to better protect the nation. So exactly what you just decribed.
    Your sums don’t remotely add up. Go on, show your working. Show how the big increase in headline military spend is going to go on Chagos.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,777

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    It does seem like a lot of people are on a hair trigger these days. It's weird. Whatever happened to the rule that if you haven't got something nice to say then don't say anything at all? People do annoying things to me all day long, but do I ever say anything to them about it? Of course I don't! I go home and complain to my wife about it instead.
    I'm a Daoist.
    I go with the flow, in my own way.
    I don't let small things upset me, and I don't stress about big things i can't influence.
    I focus on things I can influence like delivering leaflets. I live in the moment and enjoys encounters like the one yesterday.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,271
    pm215 said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    It's a tough call, personally I don't think election related materials are junk mail. Elections are important. If I see a 'no junk mail' sticker and I'm delivering an election leaflet I will usually post it. If it says 'no leaflets' explicitly I won't post it.
    I hate to break it to you, but the recipients probably consider political literature to be junkier than sofa sales and parish newsletters.
    Personally I do not put political leaflets through "no junk mail" doors -- it seems much more likely to me that the recipient will consider it junk and get pissed off at the party for a net negative effect, than that they are, as it were, a political junkie who both wants the leaflet and is sufficiently on the fence that it might actually change their vote.

    He must get really riled up when the postie puts it through his letterbox, as they legally have to.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,542
    Leon said:

    DoctorG said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Theres new Holyrood polling out from Find Out Now in the National. Lets just say its sub optimal for Tory and Lab!

    Constituency
    SNP 36
    Ref 21
    Lab 12 (lol)
    Green 10
    LD 9
    Con 7 (lol)
    Alba 2

    Regional
    SNP 29
    Ref 20
    Green 14
    Lab 12
    Con 10
    LD 9
    Alba 2

    53 47 for Indy

    SNP down 12% on the constituency vote since 2021 and a swing of 15% from SNP to Reform on the regional list vote too since 2021
    The SNP are only going to win constituency seats. Therefore their SNP 1 and 2 mantra is absurd.

    I suspect mainly a technical swing from SNP to Reform. Although there will be some SNP to Reform switchers, the bare statistics will be masking switches from SNP to Labour and Labour to Reform.
    In practical terms though seats like Ayr, Banffshire and Buchan Coast, Aberdeen S and North Kincardine, Aberdeenshire East, Angus North and Mearns, Moray and Perthshire South and Kinrosshire, all won by the SNP in 2021 could go Reform if the 2021 Tory vote collapses in Reform's favour and the Greens stand in those Holyrood constituencies too.

    Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross should also be a LD gain from SNP
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2021_Scottish_Parliament_election#Results_by_constituency
    The Greens show no signs if standing in those seats though.
    And its far from clear why the SCon vote should collapse to Reform. There isnt particular evidence of Reform attracting the rural Tory vote in Scotland any more than, say, SLab votes
    I think Reform will do fairly well in the North east, but they have no physical presence. No one knows who is standing yet, a seatclike Banff could fall a 3 way split between them, the Tories and SNP.

    The Tories seem to have a good residual core in the rural south, even in their nadir. Reform will do very well in white working class areas, so they could poll fairly well towns in the Central belt. There is a tipping point where they go from winning none/1 or 2 constituencies to winning half a dozen but I don't think we are there (yet)

    I agree that Caithness really should be a Lib Dem gain this time
    Caithness is a contender, for the word that means “enjoyment of a humdrum pleasure in tough exotic arenas”

    Ah, it was total Caithnesss…. Sounds like bliss and bless and grace and its inherently pretty as a word

    I vote for Caithness
    I think this is the most #accidentalpartridge chat I've read on here yet, and desperately dull.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,647
    edited 2:21PM
    I’m so bored of mediocre England rugby teams
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,542
    Nigelb said:

    Sean_F said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:
    I have posted on PB a few times over the years that a senior politician once told me that they wouldn’t be surprised to wake up one day to the news that Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor’s bodyguards had shot and killed AMW.

    Getting Indiraed is the technical term.
    I wonder if he sometimes now wishes they had.
    I do wonder in all this if AMW may compromise his brother, or even if Charles is interviewed over just what he knew when his mother and himself paid the money to Virginia Giuffre

    This could get even more of a problem for the royals
    If anything Charles has come out well this week, especially once it became clear he advised against his brother being appointed the trade envoy where he leaked inforrmation but his mother overruled him and Mandelson ensured Andrew got the job anyway.

    Andrew has of course faced no charges as yet about sex and was only arrested in relation to leaking information as a trade envoy
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/38288484/mandelson-pushed-prince-andrew-trade-envoy-despite-king-concerns/
    As PB’s premier royalist, what do your think of Andrew paying £12m of the queen’s (and possibly others’) money with her full support to a woman he said he’d never met, for something he never did?
    It is an admission of guilt. AMW would never have made such a payment, unless he knew full well that sex with a 17 year old prostitute breached local laws.

    Do I blame the Queen for putting up the money? No, because any mother with sufficient money would do the same.

    I too have been in the position of having to dig a couple of people who are close to me, out of legal holes of their own making.
    It's why it won't damage the monarchy.

    AMW is on a totally different scale but so many people have a black sheep in their family, who has caused real problems or embarrassment.
    There's a determined effort by the royals to distance themselves from the Andrew scandals, but there are serious and legitimate question about the extent to which they protected and enabled his behaviour.

    Until they are answered one way or the other, I don't think this will go away.
    Charles has also, quite rightly, pledged openness on the matter, so we'll see how that works out.
    Unless there's some major smoking gun that has hitherto remained unearthed, I doubt there's any enablement or protection.

    I think at every step of the way the Royals have correctly edged away from Andrew, and his family (including his daughters) have been as shocked by his behaviour as much as anyone else.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,694
    https://x.com/bbcworld/status/2025190799248330963

    UK should send troops to Ukraine now, former PM Johnson tells BBC
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,777
    edited 2:24PM

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    I tend to just enjoy having fun with canvassers by finding incredibly obscure or entirely made up reasons I wouldnt be voting for their party.
    'Not after the Falconsgate thing mate, no'
    It was the poor old Greens before i moved, they were the only ones who bothered. Clive Lewis lot just used to leaflet and run and the Tories snd LD gave up long ago.
    Im expecting Ref and Con to come calling here. The Tory might get a cuppa if Im in a good mood, Reform will be told not until Nigel addresses that whole Fishing farrago.
    If you're canvassing, the ones to watch are the women who invite you in to discuss further, offer you a glass of wine and sit next to you on the sofa. Happened to me a couple of times.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,542
    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    I tend to just enjoy having fun with canvassers by finding incredibly obscure or entirely made up reasons I wouldnt be voting for their party.
    'Not after the Falconsgate thing mate, no'
    It was the poor old Greens before i moved, they were the only ones who bothered. Clive Lewis lot just used to leaflet and run and the Tories snd LD gave up long ago.
    Im expecting Ref and Con to come calling here. The Tory might get a cuppa if Im in a good mood, Reform will be told not until Nigel addresses that whole Fishing farrago.
    If you're canvassing, the ones to watch are the women who invite you in to discuss further, offer you a glass of wine and sit next to you on the sofa. Happened to me a couple of times.
    You lucky bastard.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,674
    edited 2:26PM
    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    I tend to just enjoy having fun with canvassers by finding incredibly obscure or entirely made up reasons I wouldnt be voting for their party.
    'Not after the Falconsgate thing mate, no'
    It was the poor old Greens before i moved, they were the only ones who bothered. Clive Lewis lot just used to leaflet and run and the Tories snd LD gave up long ago.
    Im expecting Ref and Con to come calling here. The Tory might get a cuppa if Im in a good mood, Reform will be told not until Nigel addresses that whole Fishing farrago.
    If you're canvassing, the ones to watch are the women who invite you in to discuss further, offer you a glass of wine and sit next to you on the sofa. Happened to me a couple of times.
    Swedish Erotica - The Canvassing Special

    I hope you pole this well in May
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,199

    https://x.com/bbcworld/status/2025190799248330963

    UK should send troops to Ukraine now, former PM Johnson tells BBC

    Zero chance of SKS doing that without a peace plan agreed and Nato and US backing
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,542
    Leon said:

    I’m so bored of mediocre England rugby teams

    Yeah. It's almost Starmeresque.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,542
    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    It does seem like a lot of people are on a hair trigger these days. It's weird. Whatever happened to the rule that if you haven't got something nice to say then don't say anything at all? People do annoying things to me all day long, but do I ever say anything to them about it? Of course I don't! I go home and complain to my wife about it instead.
    I'm a Daoist.
    I go with the flow, in my own way.
    I don't let small things upset me, and I don't stress about big things i can't influence.
    I focus on things I can influence like delivering leaflets. I live in the moment and enjoys encounters like the one yesterday.
    Stick that into AI and it'll generate an awesome B-track for you with those lyrics.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,411

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    I tend to just enjoy having fun with canvassers by finding incredibly obscure or entirely made up reasons I wouldnt be voting for their party.
    'Not after the Falconsgate thing mate, no'
    It was the poor old Greens before i moved, they were the only ones who bothered. Clive Lewis lot just used to leaflet and run and the Tories snd LD gave up long ago.
    Im expecting Ref and Con to come calling here. The Tory might get a cuppa if Im in a good mood, Reform will be told not until Nigel addresses that whole Fishing farrago.
    If you're canvassing, the ones to watch are the women who invite you in to discuss further, offer you a glass of wine and sit next to you on the sofa. Happened to me a couple of times.
    You lucky bastard.
    It's not luck.
    It's that magical LibDemmery.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,542

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    I tend to just enjoy having fun with canvassers by finding incredibly obscure or entirely made up reasons I wouldnt be voting for their party.
    'Not after the Falconsgate thing mate, no'
    It was the poor old Greens before i moved, they were the only ones who bothered. Clive Lewis lot just used to leaflet and run and the Tories snd LD gave up long ago.
    Im expecting Ref and Con to come calling here. The Tory might get a cuppa if Im in a good mood, Reform will be told not until Nigel addresses that whole Fishing farrago.
    I hate canvassing. It's incredibly stressful.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,533

    https://x.com/bbcworld/status/2025190799248330963

    UK should send troops to Ukraine now, former PM Johnson tells BBC

    @GerryHassan

    Boris Johnson has never been a serious politician. And should never have held any high office let alone be PM. Here he says he basically wants the UK to declare war on Putin's Russia.

    https://x.com/GerryHassan/status/2025202845352358220?s=20
  • CookieCookie Posts: 16,928

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Right. Winter Olympics nearly over: I shall favour this board with my views on the subject.

    I do enjoy the winter Olympics very much, but even I would concede that they are fundamentally silly. I can sit and watch them for hours in a thank-God-there's some-actual-sport-on-the-telly way, and can even forgive the inanity of the BBC coverage of them almost all of the time. But few of the sports are terribly satisfactory. Let's consider them.

    First, ice dancing. This is the one 'sport' amongst all others that makes me genuinely angry. It is not a sport. If it has an aesthetic aspect, it is not a sport. If it requires costumes, it is not a sport. If it requires music, it is not a sport. Particularly not the depressing timbres you get in an ice arena. Turn it off. That's not to say that these people don't have genuine skill and athletic prowess - but it's not a sport. It's dancing, and therefore light entertainment. It can fuck off. People say to me, when I advance this opinion, 'but what about Torvill and Dean', to which I reply 'just because the British once had some success in a thing doesn't make it a sport, or entertaining, or worth watching.' As I said, genuinely angry. Let's move on to happier things.

    Next, all the sports which require judges to tell us how well things were done: I wouldn't really consider these proper sports either. To which people say to me 'but what about gymnastics?', which I put in the same bag. Now, I do genuinely find the half pipe and the big air and so on genuinely entertaining and have enjoyed watching people do improbable things on snow - but not really a sport. So that's quite a lot struck off too.

    ...[cont]

    Next, anything involving knockout tournaments. Ice Hockey, Curling, etc. These clearly genuinely are sports, and are genuinely entertaining, but the knockout nature of them makes them a bit unsatisfactory as an Olympic event. The ideal Olympic event is something like the marathon - everyone does it and somebody wins, and two other people come second and third. Simple and effective. Knockout tournaments are not this.

    Next, anything which is a race but which for sensible logistical reasons, people have to do one at a time. Downhill skiiing, for example. Now clearly this is a blue riband event, and I like watching it, but it is, I would argue, a little bit unsatisfactory that the racers go one at a time rather than all at once. In this category, I will also place a fundamental objection to anything in the toboggan category that the difference in time between winner and loser, and the variation between what happens on each run, appears so small as to be almost purposeless.

    Next, anything which is superfluous. To take a summer olympics example: I consider the breast stroke or the walk superfluous: why would you swim in a way in which causes you to go slower? In this category, sadly, I would have to place snowboard cross. This is, I think, the most exciting event of the whole winterolympics, but you could do it quicker on skis. The ski version is less interesting: one person tends to get to the front and stays there - but the snowboard version seems to be to be superfluous (as one who snowboards rather than skis, I am slightly sad to draw this conclusion, but there it is.)

    And finally, anything which is fundamentally stupid. I place the ski mountaineering in this category. It is essentially a contrived race to be ready for skiing. The ski-down-the-hill at the end is redundant: the order never changes in that bit. It's who's ready to go skiing first.

    Which, I think, leaves two events: cross-country skiing (including biathlon) or short track speed skating. Those two are the Winter Olympic ideal. Cross country skiing has better scenery and history and is more noble, but short track speed skating is more entertaining: it is genuinely exciting, and has more of the winter Olympic essential of people falling over. So I am going for best event: short track speed skating, though anything cross-country skiing-ish is an acceptable answer too.
    I find it all rather fun.
    To be clear, so do I!
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,777

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    I tend to just enjoy having fun with canvassers by finding incredibly obscure or entirely made up reasons I wouldnt be voting for their party.
    'Not after the Falconsgate thing mate, no'
    It was the poor old Greens before i moved, they were the only ones who bothered. Clive Lewis lot just used to leaflet and run and the Tories snd LD gave up long ago.
    Im expecting Ref and Con to come calling here. The Tory might get a cuppa if Im in a good mood, Reform will be told not until Nigel addresses that whole Fishing farrago.
    I hate canvassing. It's incredibly stressful.
    I love it. It's so impertinent.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,647

    Leon said:

    DoctorG said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Theres new Holyrood polling out from Find Out Now in the National. Lets just say its sub optimal for Tory and Lab!

    Constituency
    SNP 36
    Ref 21
    Lab 12 (lol)
    Green 10
    LD 9
    Con 7 (lol)
    Alba 2

    Regional
    SNP 29
    Ref 20
    Green 14
    Lab 12
    Con 10
    LD 9
    Alba 2

    53 47 for Indy

    SNP down 12% on the constituency vote since 2021 and a swing of 15% from SNP to Reform on the regional list vote too since 2021
    The SNP are only going to win constituency seats. Therefore their SNP 1 and 2 mantra is absurd.

    I suspect mainly a technical swing from SNP to Reform. Although there will be some SNP to Reform switchers, the bare statistics will be masking switches from SNP to Labour and Labour to Reform.
    In practical terms though seats like Ayr, Banffshire and Buchan Coast, Aberdeen S and North Kincardine, Aberdeenshire East, Angus North and Mearns, Moray and Perthshire South and Kinrosshire, all won by the SNP in 2021 could go Reform if the 2021 Tory vote collapses in Reform's favour and the Greens stand in those Holyrood constituencies too.

    Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross should also be a LD gain from SNP
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2021_Scottish_Parliament_election#Results_by_constituency
    The Greens show no signs if standing in those seats though.
    And its far from clear why the SCon vote should collapse to Reform. There isnt particular evidence of Reform attracting the rural Tory vote in Scotland any more than, say, SLab votes
    I think Reform will do fairly well in the North east, but they have no physical presence. No one knows who is standing yet, a seatclike Banff could fall a 3 way split between them, the Tories and SNP.

    The Tories seem to have a good residual core in the rural south, even in their nadir. Reform will do very well in white working class areas, so they could poll fairly well towns in the Central belt. There is a tipping point where they go from winning none/1 or 2 constituencies to winning half a dozen but I don't think we are there (yet)

    I agree that Caithness really should be a Lib Dem gain this time
    Caithness is a contender, for the word that means “enjoyment of a humdrum pleasure in tough exotic arenas”

    Ah, it was total Caithnesss…. Sounds like bliss and bless and grace and its inherently pretty as a word

    I vote for Caithness
    I think this is the most #accidentalpartridge chat I've read on here yet, and desperately dull.
    This is desperately harsh coming from someone with lives in…. Basingstoke
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,647
    George Ford has to go. Get Marcus smith on. Ffs
  • CookieCookie Posts: 16,928
    Scott_xP said:

    Cookie said:

    In this category, sadly, I would have to place snowboard cross. This is, I think, the most exciting event of the whole winterolympics, but you could do it quicker on skis.

    The time difference in the seeding runs between skis and snowboards (men) was 0.24s

    Given the conditions, I suspect the snowboard final was considerably faster than the ski final
    Really! Well I will happily add Snowboard Cross my my top 3 events. I'm happy about that because it is one of the ones I find most fun to watch.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 69,898
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:
    I have posted on PB a few times over the years that a senior politician once told me that they wouldn’t be surprised to wake up one day to the news that Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor’s bodyguards had shot and killed AMW.

    Getting Indiraed is the technical term.
    I wonder if he sometimes now wishes they had.
    I do wonder in all this if AMW may compromise his brother, or even if Charles is interviewed over just what he knew when his mother and himself paid the money to Virginia Giuffre

    This could get even more of a problem for the royals
    If anything Charles has come out well this week, especially once it became clear he advised against his brother being appointed the trade envoy where he leaked inforrmation but his mother overruled him and Mandelson ensured Andrew got the job anyway.

    Andrew has of course faced no charges as yet about sex and was only arrested in relation to leaking information as a trade envoy
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/38288484/mandelson-pushed-prince-andrew-trade-envoy-despite-king-concerns/
    As PB’s premier royalist, what do your think of Andrew paying £12m of the queen’s (and possibly others’) money with her full support to a woman he said he’d never met, for something he never did?
    A civil settlement but he has faced no criminal charges or even been arrested in connection with Giuffre
    A civil settlement for what ?

    That has to be investigated
    No it doesn't, there is a much lower burden of evidence required in a civil than criminal case
    I do not think you quite understand how serious all this is

    The question is why did such a huge sum of money have to be paid with the late queen and charles knowledge to an accuser of AMW, and who sadly committed suicide
    If the late Queen wished to spend some of her money for a civil settlement between Andrew and Giuffre that was her business, she is dead now anyway so can't be questioned on it
    Charles can
  • MattWMattW Posts: 32,202
    Scott_xP said:

    Leon said:

    Caithness is a contender, for the word that means “enjoyment of a humdrum pleasure in tough exotic arenas”

    Ah, it was total Caithnesss…. Sounds like bliss and bless and grace and its inherently pretty as a word

    I vote for Caithness

    Is Caithness not the word for "She/he doesn't look anything like their profile pic" ?
    What's the word for "the feeling of satisfaction when a suitable new word for an experience the same as a place name has been selected"?

    I suggest "Heanor" for that one.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 32,202

    Scott_xP said:

    @JStein_WaPo

    SCOOP: Trump aides are struggling to spend an extra $500 billion on the military, delaying budget

    Trump agreed to Hegseth’s bid for *~50%~* military spending boost

    Vought & others objected internally

    It’s so much $ they can’t figure out how to spend it

    https://x.com/JStein_WaPo/status/2025187555189150155?s=20

    MAGA is so often performative. It’s about generating social media headlines. A big increase in military spending sounds good. They don’t care that there’s no actual plan what to do with money.

    Reform or Restore would be the same here.
    What do you think Britain is doing at the moment? We are touting a big increase in the headline figure military spend, and planning to use it to pay for Chagos. Presumably we can deter the enemy parachute regiments by waving the Chagos agreement at them.
    We haven’t increased our military budget by 50% and left an alcoholic misogynist in charge of how to spend the money, so, no, I don’t see the similarity.
    Chagos, even as proposed / not proposed / proposed / not proposed / proposed / not proposed / proposed / not proposed / proposed / not proposed / proposed / not proposed / proposed / not proposed is not a large expense.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,647
    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Leon said:

    Caithness is a contender, for the word that means “enjoyment of a humdrum pleasure in tough exotic arenas”

    Ah, it was total Caithnesss…. Sounds like bliss and bless and grace and its inherently pretty as a word

    I vote for Caithness

    Is Caithness not the word for "She/he doesn't look anything like their profile pic" ?
    What's the word for "the feeling of satisfaction when a suitable new word for an experience the same as a place name has been selected"?

    I suggest "Heanor" for that one.
    Ventongimps
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 18,934
    I missed this from a couple of days ago: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6ed7w6j86o

    “Lawyers representing an MP have asked the High Court to block a watchdog from investigating a complaint against him.

    “Submissions to the court on behalf of Rupert Lowe, the independent MP for Great Yarmouth, claimed a probe into his conduct by the Independent Complaints and Grievance Scheme (ICGS) was "procedurally unfair" and that it could lead to "unjust harm".

    “The ICGS is responsible for investigating complaints related to bullying, harassment and/or sexual misconduct within Parliament.

    “The complaint, which was made by a third party who cannot be identified, is understood to have been made in July 2025 but further details remain unknown.”

    Lowe’s case was rejected.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,647
    edited 2:37PM
    Fuck England. Fuck Borthwick. Fuck George Floyd
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,080

    Scott_xP said:

    @JStein_WaPo

    SCOOP: Trump aides are struggling to spend an extra $500 billion on the military, delaying budget

    Trump agreed to Hegseth’s bid for *~50%~* military spending boost

    Vought & others objected internally

    It’s so much $ they can’t figure out how to spend it

    https://x.com/JStein_WaPo/status/2025187555189150155?s=20

    MAGA is so often performative. It’s about generating social media headlines. A big increase in military spending sounds good. They don’t care that there’s no actual plan what to do with money.

    Reform or Restore would be the same here.
    What do you think Britain is doing at the moment? We are touting a big increase in the headline figure military spend, and planning to use it to pay for Chagos. Presumably we can deter the enemy parachute regiments by waving the Chagos agreement at them.
    We haven’t increased our military budget by 50% and left an alcoholic misogynist in charge of how to spend the money, so, no, I don’t see the similarity.
    Then let me help you. It is a performative increase, with no plan on how to use the additional budget to better protect the nation. So exactly what you just decribed.
    Your sums don’t remotely add up. Go on, show your working. Show how the big increase in headline military spend is going to go on Chagos.
    Chagos is but one particularly egregious example of how increased UK defence spending will not help enhance military capability.

    You're twisting around trying to score some small win, but the fundamental truth is that this:

    It’s about generating social media headlines. A big increase in military spending sounds good. They don’t care that there’s no actual plan what to do with money.

    Reform or Restore would be the same here.


    Is an accurate description of Britain's defence policy for the last 25 years. If Reform or Restore did the same thing, they'd be doing no more or less than anyone else.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 32,202

    Scott_xP said:

    @JStein_WaPo

    SCOOP: Trump aides are struggling to spend an extra $500 billion on the military, delaying budget

    Trump agreed to Hegseth’s bid for *~50%~* military spending boost

    Vought & others objected internally

    It’s so much $ they can’t figure out how to spend it

    https://x.com/JStein_WaPo/status/2025187555189150155?s=20

    MAGA is so often performative. It’s about generating social media headlines. A big increase in military spending sounds good. They don’t care that there’s no actual plan what to do with money.

    Reform or Restore would be the same here.
    What do you think Britain is doing at the moment? We are touting a big increase in the headline figure military spend, and planning to use it to pay for Chagos. Presumably we can deter the enemy parachute regiments by waving the Chagos agreement at them.
    Parachute regiments are becoming less of a thing - certainly in the UK. We are reducing to one battalion iirc.

    And afaics military people (real military people, not brass hatters) seem to think there are higher priorities.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,048
    I knew that going to an Irish bar would be a bad idea…
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,080
    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JStein_WaPo

    SCOOP: Trump aides are struggling to spend an extra $500 billion on the military, delaying budget

    Trump agreed to Hegseth’s bid for *~50%~* military spending boost

    Vought & others objected internally

    It’s so much $ they can’t figure out how to spend it

    https://x.com/JStein_WaPo/status/2025187555189150155?s=20

    MAGA is so often performative. It’s about generating social media headlines. A big increase in military spending sounds good. They don’t care that there’s no actual plan what to do with money.

    Reform or Restore would be the same here.
    What do you think Britain is doing at the moment? We are touting a big increase in the headline figure military spend, and planning to use it to pay for Chagos. Presumably we can deter the enemy parachute regiments by waving the Chagos agreement at them.
    Parachute regiments are becoming less of a thing - certainly in the UK. We are reducing to one battalion iirc.

    And afaics military people (real military people, not brass hatters) seem to think there are higher priorities.
    Where am I suggesting we should get more parachute regiments here?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,542
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    DoctorG said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Theres new Holyrood polling out from Find Out Now in the National. Lets just say its sub optimal for Tory and Lab!

    Constituency
    SNP 36
    Ref 21
    Lab 12 (lol)
    Green 10
    LD 9
    Con 7 (lol)
    Alba 2

    Regional
    SNP 29
    Ref 20
    Green 14
    Lab 12
    Con 10
    LD 9
    Alba 2

    53 47 for Indy

    SNP down 12% on the constituency vote since 2021 and a swing of 15% from SNP to Reform on the regional list vote too since 2021
    The SNP are only going to win constituency seats. Therefore their SNP 1 and 2 mantra is absurd.

    I suspect mainly a technical swing from SNP to Reform. Although there will be some SNP to Reform switchers, the bare statistics will be masking switches from SNP to Labour and Labour to Reform.
    In practical terms though seats like Ayr, Banffshire and Buchan Coast, Aberdeen S and North Kincardine, Aberdeenshire East, Angus North and Mearns, Moray and Perthshire South and Kinrosshire, all won by the SNP in 2021 could go Reform if the 2021 Tory vote collapses in Reform's favour and the Greens stand in those Holyrood constituencies too.

    Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross should also be a LD gain from SNP
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2021_Scottish_Parliament_election#Results_by_constituency
    The Greens show no signs if standing in those seats though.
    And its far from clear why the SCon vote should collapse to Reform. There isnt particular evidence of Reform attracting the rural Tory vote in Scotland any more than, say, SLab votes
    I think Reform will do fairly well in the North east, but they have no physical presence. No one knows who is standing yet, a seatclike Banff could fall a 3 way split between them, the Tories and SNP.

    The Tories seem to have a good residual core in the rural south, even in their nadir. Reform will do very well in white working class areas, so they could poll fairly well towns in the Central belt. There is a tipping point where they go from winning none/1 or 2 constituencies to winning half a dozen but I don't think we are there (yet)

    I agree that Caithness really should be a Lib Dem gain this time
    Caithness is a contender, for the word that means “enjoyment of a humdrum pleasure in tough exotic arenas”

    Ah, it was total Caithnesss…. Sounds like bliss and bless and grace and its inherently pretty as a word

    I vote for Caithness
    I think this is the most #accidentalpartridge chat I've read on here yet, and desperately dull.
    This is desperately harsh coming from someone with lives in…. Basingstoke
    Except I don't, but keep trying.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,542
    Leon said:

    Fuck England. Fuck Borthwick. Fuck George Floyd

    Is he playing?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,542
    Sean_F said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://x.com/bbcworld/status/2025190799248330963

    UK should send troops to Ukraine now, former PM Johnson tells BBC

    @GerryHassan

    Boris Johnson has never been a serious politician. And should never have held any high office let alone be PM. Here he says he basically wants the UK to declare war on Putin's Russia.

    https://x.com/GerryHassan/status/2025202845352358220?s=20
    We are almost at war with Putin’s Russia, in case Gerry Hassan has not noticed.
    Gerry Hassan is just showboating against Boris, the Tories, Brexit etc (rinse and repeat).

    If it were one of his fanbois saying precisely the same thing we'd hear far less of this argument.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 69,898
    edited 2:42PM

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    We are in.a neighborhood watch area which bans leafletting and cold calling

    It is rare for us to receive any leaflets or indeed canvaseers
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 18,934
    A fight over circumcision is giving Europe a taste of the new US diplomacy

    https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/21/europe/us-ambassadors-antagonism-europe-intl
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,080
    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JStein_WaPo

    SCOOP: Trump aides are struggling to spend an extra $500 billion on the military, delaying budget

    Trump agreed to Hegseth’s bid for *~50%~* military spending boost

    Vought & others objected internally

    It’s so much $ they can’t figure out how to spend it

    https://x.com/JStein_WaPo/status/2025187555189150155?s=20

    MAGA is so often performative. It’s about generating social media headlines. A big increase in military spending sounds good. They don’t care that there’s no actual plan what to do with money.

    Reform or Restore would be the same here.
    What do you think Britain is doing at the moment? We are touting a big increase in the headline figure military spend, and planning to use it to pay for Chagos. Presumably we can deter the enemy parachute regiments by waving the Chagos agreement at them.
    We haven’t increased our military budget by 50% and left an alcoholic misogynist in charge of how to spend the money, so, no, I don’t see the similarity.
    Chagos, even as proposed / not proposed / proposed / not proposed / proposed / not proposed / proposed / not proposed / proposed / not proposed / proposed / not proposed / proposed / not proposed is not a large expense.
    I think that sort of attitude (only a few million, only a few hundred million, only a couple of billion) is a big reason why our public finances are utterly up shit creek.

    And maybe someone can tell me, if it costs what Chagos is costing to lease that base, why aren't we getting that from the USA already, given that the base is solely for their use? We are just the biggest mugs.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,647

    Leon said:

    Fuck England. Fuck Borthwick. Fuck George Floyd

    Is he playing?
    In spirit, my friend, in spirit
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,542
    dixiedean said:

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    I tend to just enjoy having fun with canvassers by finding incredibly obscure or entirely made up reasons I wouldnt be voting for their party.
    'Not after the Falconsgate thing mate, no'
    It was the poor old Greens before i moved, they were the only ones who bothered. Clive Lewis lot just used to leaflet and run and the Tories snd LD gave up long ago.
    Im expecting Ref and Con to come calling here. The Tory might get a cuppa if Im in a good mood, Reform will be told not until Nigel addresses that whole Fishing farrago.
    If you're canvassing, the ones to watch are the women who invite you in to discuss further, offer you a glass of wine and sit next to you on the sofa. Happened to me a couple of times.
    You lucky bastard.
    It's not luck.
    It's that magical LibDemmery.
    It's the most compelling argument I've read yet for becoming a LibDem.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,118
    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    I tend to just enjoy having fun with canvassers by finding incredibly obscure or entirely made up reasons I wouldnt be voting for their party.
    'Not after the Falconsgate thing mate, no'
    It was the poor old Greens before i moved, they were the only ones who bothered. Clive Lewis lot just used to leaflet and run and the Tories snd LD gave up long ago.
    Im expecting Ref and Con to come calling here. The Tory might get a cuppa if Im in a good mood, Reform will be told not until Nigel addresses that whole Fishing farrago.
    If you're canvassing, the ones to watch are the women who invite you in to discuss further, offer you a glass of wine and sit next to you on the sofa. Happened to me a couple of times.
    Speed humps?
  • dixiedean said:

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    I tend to just enjoy having fun with canvassers by finding incredibly obscure or entirely made up reasons I wouldnt be voting for their party.
    'Not after the Falconsgate thing mate, no'
    It was the poor old Greens before i moved, they were the only ones who bothered. Clive Lewis lot just used to leaflet and run and the Tories snd LD gave up long ago.
    Im expecting Ref and Con to come calling here. The Tory might get a cuppa if Im in a good mood, Reform will be told not until Nigel addresses that whole Fishing farrago.
    If you're canvassing, the ones to watch are the women who invite you in to discuss further, offer you a glass of wine and sit next to you on the sofa. Happened to me a couple of times.
    You lucky bastard.
    It's not luck.
    It's that magical LibDemmery.
    You have as much right as anyone else to post material in a letter box and we always ignore such instructions - our leaflets, unlike the Lib Dem ones aren't junk after all ! Once upon a time we would have liberated opponents leaflets but wouldn't do it now.

    Always go to the end of a street to deliver so you aren't coming back on youself. Most electors are incredibly polite, a very few are vile. Reported to the Standards Board by one Lib Dem in Dentdale because I intervened as he was apparently preparing to swing a fist at my fellow leafletter, a lady in her 70s.

    Most electors however much they disagree are decent and fair. Most don't realise that even an unfavourable expletive riddled response is more use than no response.

    Having said that when a Lib Dem persisted with a mate of mine, who I went to school with and who signed my papers my mate was quite right to tell him to fuck off when he refused to take no for an answer.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,610
    I see Ireland have a Kiwi in their team:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamison_Gibson-Park
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,832

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    It does seem like a lot of people are on a hair trigger these days. It's weird. Whatever happened to the rule that if you haven't got something nice to say then don't say anything at all? People do annoying things to me all day long, but do I ever say anything to them about it? Of course I don't! I go home and complain to my wife about it instead.
    Goodness, if we go down that road I'm going to have to listen to my wife's complaints.
    The wise man always listens to his wife.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,647
    I’ve officially abandoned the rugby as England are back to being tedious Borthwick bores, and losers, and France are clearly light years ahead of everyone, which is too depressing

    So I recommend the Apple TV drama Drops of God, all about wine. It’s excellent
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,778
    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JStein_WaPo

    SCOOP: Trump aides are struggling to spend an extra $500 billion on the military, delaying budget

    Trump agreed to Hegseth’s bid for *~50%~* military spending boost

    Vought & others objected internally

    It’s so much $ they can’t figure out how to spend it

    https://x.com/JStein_WaPo/status/2025187555189150155?s=20

    MAGA is so often performative. It’s about generating social media headlines. A big increase in military spending sounds good. They don’t care that there’s no actual plan what to do with money.

    Reform or Restore would be the same here.
    What do you think Britain is doing at the moment? We are touting a big increase in the headline figure military spend, and planning to use it to pay for Chagos. Presumably we can deter the enemy parachute regiments by waving the Chagos agreement at them.
    Parachute regiments are becoming less of a thing - certainly in the UK. We are reducing to one battalion iirc.

    And afaics military people (real military people, not brass hatters) seem to think there are higher priorities.
    Quick delurk to issue a pedantic correction: according to my Para acquaintance, we are not reducing the number of Para battalions, just confirming the status quo that only one battalion is on immediate readiness at any time.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,544
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Theres new Holyrood polling out from Find Out Now in the National. Lets just say its sub optimal for Tory and Lab!

    Constituency
    SNP 36
    Ref 21
    Lab 12 (lol)
    Green 10
    LD 9
    Con 7 (lol)
    Alba 2

    Regional
    SNP 29
    Ref 20
    Green 14
    Lab 12
    Con 10
    LD 9
    Alba 2

    53 47 for Indy

    SNP down 12% on the constituency vote since 2021 and a swing of 15% from SNP to Reform on the regional list vote too since 2021
    The SNP are only going to win constituency seats. Therefore their SNP 1 and 2 mantra is absurd.

    I suspect mainly a technical swing from SNP to Reform. Although there will be some SNP to Reform switchers, the bare statistics will be masking switches from SNP to Labour and Labour to Reform.
    In practical terms though seats like Ayr, Banffshire and Buchan Coast, Aberdeen S and North Kincardine, Aberdeenshire East, Angus North and Mearns, Moray and Perthshire South and Kinrosshire, all won by the SNP in 2021 could go Reform if the 2021 Tory vote collapses in Reform's favour and the Greens stand in those Holyrood constituencies too.

    Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross should also be a LD gain from SNP
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2021_Scottish_Parliament_election#Results_by_constituency
    The Greens show no signs if standing in those seats though.
    And its far from clear why the SCon vote should collapse to Reform. There isnt particular evidence of Reform attracting the rural Tory vote in Scotland any more than, say, SLab votes
    The Greens are standing in more Holyrood constituencies than ever before. On the evidence of the poll you just posted the SCon vote has collapsed to Reform, Reform on 21% are polling the same as what the SCons got in 2021 and the SCons are now 6th on the constituency vote on a mere 7% behind even the Greens and LDs as well as behind the SNP, Reform and Labour

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/scottish-greens-look-to-cause-upset-at-the-2026-holyrood-election-5606049
    The Greens are standing in 6 seats - all Lothian/Glasgow
    Reform look, on council by election strength, like their vote is stronger in central, west, lothian and buiit up fife.
    They did well in Stranraer but not from the Tory vote collapsing to them.
    31% of Scots who voted Conservative even in the 2024 general election will now vote for Reform
    https://ygo-assets-websites-editorial-emea.yougov.net/documents/Results_HolyroodVI_Jan26_formatted_w.pdf
    Is that because they are now the same party? Or are you hoping they're the same party? #ReformedTories
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,686
    dixiedean said:

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    I tend to just enjoy having fun with canvassers by finding incredibly obscure or entirely made up reasons I wouldnt be voting for their party.
    'Not after the Falconsgate thing mate, no'
    It was the poor old Greens before i moved, they were the only ones who bothered. Clive Lewis lot just used to leaflet and run and the Tories snd LD gave up long ago.
    Im expecting Ref and Con to come calling here. The Tory might get a cuppa if Im in a good mood, Reform will be told not until Nigel addresses that whole Fishing farrago.
    If you're canvassing, the ones to watch are the women who invite you in to discuss further, offer you a glass of wine and sit next to you on the sofa. Happened to me a couple of times.
    You lucky bastard.
    It's not luck.
    It's that magical LibDemmery.
    The magical rising Libdem barchart column..
  • MattWMattW Posts: 32,202
    mwadams said:

    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JStein_WaPo

    SCOOP: Trump aides are struggling to spend an extra $500 billion on the military, delaying budget

    Trump agreed to Hegseth’s bid for *~50%~* military spending boost

    Vought & others objected internally

    It’s so much $ they can’t figure out how to spend it

    https://x.com/JStein_WaPo/status/2025187555189150155?s=20

    MAGA is so often performative. It’s about generating social media headlines. A big increase in military spending sounds good. They don’t care that there’s no actual plan what to do with money.

    Reform or Restore would be the same here.
    What do you think Britain is doing at the moment? We are touting a big increase in the headline figure military spend, and planning to use it to pay for Chagos. Presumably we can deter the enemy parachute regiments by waving the Chagos agreement at them.
    Parachute regiments are becoming less of a thing - certainly in the UK. We are reducing to one battalion iirc.

    And afaics military people (real military people, not brass hatters) seem to think there are higher priorities.
    Quick delurk to issue a pedantic correction: according to my Para acquaintance, we are not reducing the number of Para battalions, just confirming the status quo that only one battalion is on immediate readiness at any time.
    The emphasis I am picking up is that other methods of deployment are preferred, and that in an age of drones everywhere floating down by parachute may be more risky - so the opportunities would be less common.

    But I'm being pedantic back.
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,170
    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    Mine wasn't junk mail. It had useful information on it. He thought it was junk mail but I wasn't to know that and didn't want to deny him the choice.
    If he requested no junk mail, which generally means unsolicited, it’s poor form to post it in his box
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,118

    Sean_F said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://x.com/bbcworld/status/2025190799248330963

    UK should send troops to Ukraine now, former PM Johnson tells BBC

    @GerryHassan

    Boris Johnson has never been a serious politician. And should never have held any high office let alone be PM. Here he says he basically wants the UK to declare war on Putin's Russia.

    https://x.com/GerryHassan/status/2025202845352358220?s=20
    We are almost at war with Putin’s Russia, in case Gerry Hassan has not noticed.
    Gerry Hassan is just showboating against Boris, the Tories, Brexit etc (rinse and repeat).

    If it were one of his fanbois saying precisely the same thing we'd hear far less of this argument.
    Showboating against Boris's showboating in this case.
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,170
    Looks like a possible deal with Iran is on

    Thoughts and prayers for the PB warmingers and moon rabbits helmet buffing

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2025216855275606267?s=46&t=d8CnRhyZJ-m4vy0k55W8XQ
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,879
    MattW said:

    mwadams said:

    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JStein_WaPo

    SCOOP: Trump aides are struggling to spend an extra $500 billion on the military, delaying budget

    Trump agreed to Hegseth’s bid for *~50%~* military spending boost

    Vought & others objected internally

    It’s so much $ they can’t figure out how to spend it

    https://x.com/JStein_WaPo/status/2025187555189150155?s=20

    MAGA is so often performative. It’s about generating social media headlines. A big increase in military spending sounds good. They don’t care that there’s no actual plan what to do with money.

    Reform or Restore would be the same here.
    What do you think Britain is doing at the moment? We are touting a big increase in the headline figure military spend, and planning to use it to pay for Chagos. Presumably we can deter the enemy parachute regiments by waving the Chagos agreement at them.
    Parachute regiments are becoming less of a thing - certainly in the UK. We are reducing to one battalion iirc.

    And afaics military people (real military people, not brass hatters) seem to think there are higher priorities.
    Quick delurk to issue a pedantic correction: according to my Para acquaintance, we are not reducing the number of Para battalions, just confirming the status quo that only one battalion is on immediate readiness at any time.
    The emphasis I am picking up is that other methods of deployment are preferred, and that in an age of drones everywhere floating down by parachute may be more risky - so the opportunities would be less common.

    But I'm being pedantic back.
    Massed parachute assaults would be interesting…

    A number of years back a friend who went to work in the California defence industry described how the Taiwanese wanted a special mode for a SPAAG system.

    Instead of firing a burst, look, fire another burst etc at fast moving aircraft, they wanted the system to fire one round each, at hundreds of practically stationary targets.

    Yes, as option if the Chinese tried a mass parachute drop.

  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,832
    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    Mine wasn't junk mail. It had useful information on it. He thought it was junk mail but I wasn't to know that and didn't want to deny him the choice.
    If he requested no junk mail, which generally means unsolicited, it’s poor form to post it in his box
    The householder's mistake was the use of the vague pejorative term of "junk mail", whose interpretation is open to question and indeed is almost guaranteed to breed confusion since who is going to be giving up their free time to deliver something they consider to be junk? As with all good writing it is better to be more specific, eg "no leaflets, menus or estate agents materials, please" (the "please" because it always pays to be polite).
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,694
    Fico threatens to cut Ukraine's electricity supply.

    https://x.com/RobertFicoSVK/status/2025160440355999886

    IF THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT DOES NOT RESUME OIL SUPPLIES TO SLOVAKIA ON MONDAY, ON THAT SAME DAY I WILL ASK THE RELEVANT SLOVAK COMPANIES TO STOP EMERGENCY ELECTRICITY SUPPLIES TO UKRAINE.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,720

    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    Mine wasn't junk mail. It had useful information on it. He thought it was junk mail but I wasn't to know that and didn't want to deny him the choice.
    If he requested no junk mail, which generally means unsolicited, it’s poor form to post it in his box
    The householder's mistake was the use of the vague pejorative term of "junk mail", whose interpretation is open to question and indeed is almost guaranteed to breed confusion since who is going to be giving up their free time to deliver something they consider to be junk? As with all good writing it is better to be more specific, eg "no leaflets, menus or estate agents materials, please" (the "please" because it always pays to be polite).
    Seriously?*

    * And that doesn't mean seriously but that your position is ridiculous. No junk mail is well understood by anyone who wants to understand it and respect someone else's request.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,454
    Taz said:

    Looks like a possible deal with Iran is on

    Thoughts and prayers for the PB warmingers and moon rabbits helmet buffing

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2025216855275606267?s=46&t=d8CnRhyZJ-m4vy0k55W8XQ

    Warmingers is a fantastic typo.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 16,928
    An observation: England have more players than you would expect who have names like Lord of the Rings characters. Henry Arundel. Ellis Genge. Tom Curry. Henry Pollock. Ollie Chessum.
    N9t that it appears to be doing them any good, mind.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,542

    MattW said:

    mwadams said:

    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JStein_WaPo

    SCOOP: Trump aides are struggling to spend an extra $500 billion on the military, delaying budget

    Trump agreed to Hegseth’s bid for *~50%~* military spending boost

    Vought & others objected internally

    It’s so much $ they can’t figure out how to spend it

    https://x.com/JStein_WaPo/status/2025187555189150155?s=20

    MAGA is so often performative. It’s about generating social media headlines. A big increase in military spending sounds good. They don’t care that there’s no actual plan what to do with money.

    Reform or Restore would be the same here.
    What do you think Britain is doing at the moment? We are touting a big increase in the headline figure military spend, and planning to use it to pay for Chagos. Presumably we can deter the enemy parachute regiments by waving the Chagos agreement at them.
    Parachute regiments are becoming less of a thing - certainly in the UK. We are reducing to one battalion iirc.

    And afaics military people (real military people, not brass hatters) seem to think there are higher priorities.
    Quick delurk to issue a pedantic correction: according to my Para acquaintance, we are not reducing the number of Para battalions, just confirming the status quo that only one battalion is on immediate readiness at any time.
    The emphasis I am picking up is that other methods of deployment are preferred, and that in an age of drones everywhere floating down by parachute may be more risky - so the opportunities would be less common.

    But I'm being pedantic back.
    Massed parachute assaults would be interesting…

    A number of years back a friend who went to work in the California defence industry described how the Taiwanese wanted a special mode for a SPAAG system.

    Instead of firing a burst, look, fire another burst etc at fast moving aircraft, they wanted the system to fire one round each, at hundreds of practically stationary targets.

    Yes, as option if the Chinese tried a mass parachute drop.

    It's a dramatic and boys own method but has always been a remarkably shit way of fighting.

    Paratroopers are good for about 24-48 hours against only other light infantry, and rapidly fall intro trouble with armour.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,542

    Taz said:

    Looks like a possible deal with Iran is on

    Thoughts and prayers for the PB warmingers and moon rabbits helmet buffing

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2025216855275606267?s=46&t=d8CnRhyZJ-m4vy0k55W8XQ

    Warmingers is a fantastic typo.
    I think you'll find it's called Warhammer.
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 5,370
    Scott_xP said:

    ITV have contrived to fill an entire hour with shite and we are still nowhere near kickoff

    England have contrived to fill the next hour with shite.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 15,414
    England lose a Pollock.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,494

    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    Mine wasn't junk mail. It had useful information on it. He thought it was junk mail but I wasn't to know that and didn't want to deny him the choice.
    If he requested no junk mail, which generally means unsolicited, it’s poor form to post it in his box
    The householder's mistake was the use of the vague pejorative term of "junk mail", whose interpretation is open to question and indeed is almost guaranteed to breed confusion since who is going to be giving up their free time to deliver something they consider to be junk? As with all good writing it is better to be more specific, eg "no leaflets, menus or estate agents materials, please" (the "please" because it always pays to be polite).
    Seriously?*

    * And that doesn't mean seriously but that your position is ridiculous. No junk mail is well understood by anyone who wants to understand it and respect someone else's request.
    I wouldn't class election campaign literature or an update from the MP as Junk Mail. It is an important part of the democratic process.

    If I'm leafleting, one goes through every letterbox*.

    Except for those wierd houses that don't appear to have a front door.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,754

    England lose a Pollock.

    Sounds a bit fishy.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,494

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    It does seem like a lot of people are on a hair trigger these days. It's weird. Whatever happened to the rule that if you haven't got something nice to say then don't say anything at all? People do annoying things to me all day long, but do I ever say anything to them about it? Of course I don't! I go home and complain to my wife about it instead.
    Goodness, if we go down that road I'm going to have to listen to my wife's complaints.
    The wise man always listens to his wife.
    The wiser man doesn't have a wife.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,689

    malcolmg said:

    dixiedean said:

    HYUFD said:

    AnneJGP said:

    HYUFD said:

    Just seen Royal Mail trying to cut Sat deliveries for non 1st class post.
    Meanwhile my postman confirmed there were no deliveries on my round on one day this week Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled and if a round doesn't happen its cheaper to.pay the fine than deliver the post.

    Something is v wrong if this is true

    If you can't be bothered to pay for a first class stamp why should you expect to see your letter or parcel delivered on a Saturday?
    I normally use 1st class stamps but letters posted in this neck of the woods usually take about a week to be delivered.
    So still can be delivered within the week on a Saturday then if sent first class
    "Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled"

    And yet millions of young people are sat on the sofa without work or education.

    But there are two further questions.
    Are those unemployed in Horsham?
    And, if not, can they afford to move to Horsham and live there?
    Bear in mind their salaries will need to cover their moving costs.
    Plus a premium for cutting off their friends and family support network.
    if there are job vacancies anywhere in the country and they don't take one then benefits should stop immediately. Not for the state to pay for people to chose where and where not they will live. Lazy barstewards.
    By anywhere in the country, do you mean anywhere in the UK, or just anywhere in England? Should the unemployed in Scotland be forced to leave their country?
    I don’t think it’s been discussed here but unemployment in Scotland (both general and youth) is noticeably lower in Scotland than England, so I guess the migration of jobseekers would tend to one direction.
    AI says Scotland's Labour force participation is 74.7%, somewhat below the UK average of 75.1%.
    I imagine that's the result of a larger aging population, no doubt including all those pensioners migrating for the Scotch good life.

    What does AI say about my point, the unemployment rate in Scotland (both general and youth) compared to England?
    It says this:

    The key reason Scotland has a lower unemployment rate but also a lower labour force participation (employment rate) than the UK is higher economic inactivity due to long-term sickness, not retirement or other factors.

    Long-term illness is the primary driver: As of October 2024 to September 2025, 33.8% of economically inactive people in Scotland cited “long-term sick or disabled” as their main reason for not working—significantly higher than the UK average of around 28.7%. This proportion has been rising in recent years and is the highest in the time series since 2004.

    Higher inactivity rate: Scotland’s economic inactivity rate (those not in work and not seeking it) was 23.1% for ages 16–64 in mid-2024, contributing to the lower employment rate despite fewer unemployed individuals.

    Data reliability concerns: The Office for National Statistics (ONS) has acknowledged reliability issues with the Labour Force Survey due to low response rates and methodological changes, potentially affecting accuracy. However, administrative data (e.g., payroll and benefits) support the trend of high inactivity due to health issues.

    In short, more working-age people in Scotland are out of the labour force due to long-term health conditions, particularly mental and physical illnesses, which reduces both unemployment and participation rates. This contrasts with lower rates of inactivity due to retirement or student status
    This kind of madness is because being disabled or long term sick is positively encouraged by more generous benefits, allowances and even a car. If you are struggling to get employed or can hope for no more than minimum wage earnings establishing such a disability or sickness is the economically rational thing to do.

    I have sympathy for those struggling through life with disabilities and accept that this can result in higher costs in some circumstances but we will not increase the employed ratio until we address this.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,494

    dixiedean said:

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    I tend to just enjoy having fun with canvassers by finding incredibly obscure or entirely made up reasons I wouldnt be voting for their party.
    'Not after the Falconsgate thing mate, no'
    It was the poor old Greens before i moved, they were the only ones who bothered. Clive Lewis lot just used to leaflet and run and the Tories snd LD gave up long ago.
    Im expecting Ref and Con to come calling here. The Tory might get a cuppa if Im in a good mood, Reform will be told not until Nigel addresses that whole Fishing farrago.
    If you're canvassing, the ones to watch are the women who invite you in to discuss further, offer you a glass of wine and sit next to you on the sofa. Happened to me a couple of times.
    You lucky bastard.
    It's not luck.
    It's that magical LibDemmery.
    It's the most compelling argument I've read yet for becoming a LibDem.
    Women with a sandal fettish.

    Takes all sorts.
  • ScarpiaScarpia Posts: 90
    tlg86 said:

    I see Ireland have a Kiwi in their team:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamison_Gibson-Park

    Well, it will be green - so that's all right then
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 5,370
    Cookie said:

    An observation: England have more players than you would expect who have names like Lord of the Rings characters. Henry Arundel. Ellis Genge. Tom Curry. Henry Pollock. Ollie Chessum.
    N9t that it appears to be doing them any good, mind.

    Back in the day they fielded a team containing Trick, Swift, Dodge and Hare.
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,123

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    Mine wasn't junk mail. It had useful information on it. He thought it was junk mail but I wasn't to know that and didn't want to deny him the choice.
    Every purveyor of junk mail thinks their junk mail has useful information in it. It was publicity material aimed at persuading the recipient, not a personal letter or a personal bill. That is junk mail.
    Get a life and just put in the bin if you don't want it like 99% of us would do.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 16,928

    Cookie said:

    An observation: England have more players than you would expect who have names like Lord of the Rings characters. Henry Arundel. Ellis Genge. Tom Curry. Henry Pollock. Ollie Chessum.
    N9t that it appears to be doing them any good, mind.

    Back in the day they fielded a team containing Trick, Swift, Dodge and Hare.
    Yes indeed, Dusty Hare. A name which sounds as unreal now as it did then.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,454
    Thank God we beat Wales, we'd be ending up with the wooden spoon otherwise.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,694
    Taz said:

    Looks like a possible deal with Iran is on

    Thoughts and prayers for the PB warmingers and moon rabbits helmet buffing

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2025216855275606267?s=46&t=d8CnRhyZJ-m4vy0k55W8XQ

    If there's a deal, what will Trump do with all the toys he's assembled?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,494
    Cookie said:

    An observation: England have more players than you would expect who have names like Lord of the Rings characters. Henry Arundel. Ellis Genge. Tom Curry. Henry Pollock. Ollie Chessum.
    N9t that it appears to be doing them any good, mind.

    Posh lads with posh lads names.

    Not surprising.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,542

    Cookie said:

    An observation: England have more players than you would expect who have names like Lord of the Rings characters. Henry Arundel. Ellis Genge. Tom Curry. Henry Pollock. Ollie Chessum.
    N9t that it appears to be doing them any good, mind.

    Posh lads with posh lads names.

    Not surprising.
    This is Rugby Union.

    It was invented in a Public School.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,689
    Sean_F said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://x.com/bbcworld/status/2025190799248330963

    UK should send troops to Ukraine now, former PM Johnson tells BBC

    @GerryHassan

    Boris Johnson has never been a serious politician. And should never have held any high office let alone be PM. Here he says he basically wants the UK to declare war on Putin's Russia.

    https://x.com/GerryHassan/status/2025202845352358220?s=20
    We are almost at war with Putin’s Russia, in case Gerry Hassan has not noticed.
    Also that is not what he is saying. He is saying that having Western troops on the ground in Ukraine might be what it takes to make it clear to Putin that he is not getting to win this war.

    Hassan is a fool.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,689
    Scarpia said:

    tlg86 said:

    I see Ireland have a Kiwi in their team:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamison_Gibson-Park

    Well, it will be green - so that's all right then
    Even more unfairly they seem to have some rugby players.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,454
    edited 3:52PM

    MattW said:

    mwadams said:

    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JStein_WaPo

    SCOOP: Trump aides are struggling to spend an extra $500 billion on the military, delaying budget

    Trump agreed to Hegseth’s bid for *~50%~* military spending boost

    Vought & others objected internally

    It’s so much $ they can’t figure out how to spend it

    https://x.com/JStein_WaPo/status/2025187555189150155?s=20

    MAGA is so often performative. It’s about generating social media headlines. A big increase in military spending sounds good. They don’t care that there’s no actual plan what to do with money.

    Reform or Restore would be the same here.
    What do you think Britain is doing at the moment? We are touting a big increase in the headline figure military spend, and planning to use it to pay for Chagos. Presumably we can deter the enemy parachute regiments by waving the Chagos agreement at them.
    Parachute regiments are becoming less of a thing - certainly in the UK. We are reducing to one battalion iirc.

    And afaics military people (real military people, not brass hatters) seem to think there are higher priorities.
    Quick delurk to issue a pedantic correction: according to my Para acquaintance, we are not reducing the number of Para battalions, just confirming the status quo that only one battalion is on immediate readiness at any time.
    The emphasis I am picking up is that other methods of deployment are preferred, and that in an age of drones everywhere floating down by parachute may be more risky - so the opportunities would be less common.

    But I'm being pedantic back.
    Massed parachute assaults would be interesting…

    A number of years back a friend who went to work in the California defence industry described how the Taiwanese wanted a special mode for a SPAAG system.

    Instead of firing a burst, look, fire another burst etc at fast moving aircraft, they wanted the system to fire one round each, at hundreds of practically stationary targets.

    Yes, as option if the Chinese tried a mass parachute drop.

    It's a dramatic and boys own method but has always been a remarkably shit way of fighting.

    Paratroopers are good for about 24-48 hours against only other light infantry, and rapidly fall intro trouble with armour.
    The Paras went fifty years between combat jumps.

    It has always amused me that after The Battle of Crete Adolf Hitler concluded that parachute infantry should no longer be used whilst we and later the Yanks decided parachute/airborne infantry was the way to go.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,689

    Thank God we beat Wales, we'd be ending up with the wooden spoon otherwise.

    Don't count your chickens. Scotland lost to Italy and then beat England. God knows what team is going to turn up today against Wales.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 16,928

    Cookie said:

    An observation: England have more players than you would expect who have names like Lord of the Rings characters. Henry Arundel. Ellis Genge. Tom Curry. Henry Pollock. Ollie Chessum.
    N9t that it appears to be doing them any good, mind.

    Posh lads with posh lads names.

    Not surprising.
    I d9n't think anyone has ever called Ellis Genge posh before!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,754
    DavidL said:

    Thank God we beat Wales, we'd be ending up with the wooden spoon otherwise.

    Don't count your chickens. Scotland lost to Italy and then beat England. God knows what team is going to turn up today against Wales.
    It doesn’t much matter, unfortunately.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,542
    England are conceding more penalties at the breakdown than France in 1940.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,454
    Apologies if already posted

    BREAKING: The Alba Party is "unlikely" to contest May's Holyrood election due to a "perilous financial state".

    Kenny MacAskill told members: "[This] also brings into question the viability of a Party which neither has financial resources or the ability to contest elections".

    The internal email, which had been circulated on social media, was confirmed by a source.


    https://x.com/joshpizpom/status/2025218666506138027
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,593
    Steve Borthwick looks like Dr Evil
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,454
    I am happy to bring back the death penalty for this England team.
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 5,122

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    I tend to just enjoy having fun with canvassers by finding incredibly obscure or entirely made up reasons I wouldnt be voting for their party.
    'Not after the Falconsgate thing mate, no'
    It was the poor old Greens before i moved, they were the only ones who bothered. Clive Lewis lot just used to leaflet and run and the Tories snd LD gave up long ago.
    Im expecting Ref and Con to come calling here. The Tory might get a cuppa if Im in a good mood, Reform will be told not until Nigel addresses that whole Fishing farrago.
    I hate canvassing. It's incredibly stressful.
    Yeah, me too, though it's usually not as bad as I imagine it's going to be. Most people are polite, but I'm just not that keen on initiating conversations with strangers. Leafletting is fine though; you get some exercise and you often discover places in the neighborhood that you'd never noticed before.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,199
    Using the latest Nowcast poll average and swing since the 2024 general election national voteshares correlated to the change since 2024 in Gorton and Denton, I make Gorton and Denton on Thursday Labour 29.8%, Reform 29.2%, Green 27.2%. So any of them could win it
  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,321
    What an absolute steaming pile of shit. How can we go from world beaters in the autumn to an indisciplined rabble a few months later. I feel that so much of it is the unnecessary kicking away. Mistakes from kicks last week and this keep putting us on the back foot - when we were playing well in the autumn we were playing a lot more running rugby and we have the runners to do it.
  • AugustusCarp2AugustusCarp2 Posts: 603

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    I tend to just enjoy having fun with canvassers by finding incredibly obscure or entirely made up reasons I wouldnt be voting for their party.
    'Not after the Falconsgate thing mate, no'
    It was the poor old Greens before i moved, they were the only ones who bothered. Clive Lewis lot just used to leaflet and run and the Tories snd LD gave up long ago.
    Im expecting Ref and Con to come calling here. The Tory might get a cuppa if Im in a good mood, Reform will be told not until Nigel addresses that whole Fishing farrago.
    I hate canvassing. It's incredibly stressful.
    Yeah, me too, though it's usually not as bad as I imagine it's going to be. Most people are polite, but I'm just not that keen on initiating conversations with strangers. Leafletting is fine though; you get some exercise and you often discover places in the neighborhood that you'd never noticed before.
    "More lies are told by the voters to the canvassers than vice versa". Old saying, traditional.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,494

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    I tend to just enjoy having fun with canvassers by finding incredibly obscure or entirely made up reasons I wouldnt be voting for their party.
    'Not after the Falconsgate thing mate, no'
    It was the poor old Greens before i moved, they were the only ones who bothered. Clive Lewis lot just used to leaflet and run and the Tories snd LD gave up long ago.
    Im expecting Ref and Con to come calling here. The Tory might get a cuppa if Im in a good mood, Reform will be told not until Nigel addresses that whole Fishing farrago.
    I hate canvassing. It's incredibly stressful.
    Yeah, me too, though it's usually not as bad as I imagine it's going to be. Most people are polite, but I'm just not that keen on initiating conversations with strangers. Leafletting is fine though; you get some exercise and you often discover places in the neighborhood that you'd never noticed before.
    This is one reason that the majority of party members don't attend meetings. They don't want to be pressurised into doing shit they simply don't want to do.

  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,542
    The (extremely hot) Canadian women's curling team at least defeated the USA for the bronze.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,879

    MattW said:

    mwadams said:

    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JStein_WaPo

    SCOOP: Trump aides are struggling to spend an extra $500 billion on the military, delaying budget

    Trump agreed to Hegseth’s bid for *~50%~* military spending boost

    Vought & others objected internally

    It’s so much $ they can’t figure out how to spend it

    https://x.com/JStein_WaPo/status/2025187555189150155?s=20

    MAGA is so often performative. It’s about generating social media headlines. A big increase in military spending sounds good. They don’t care that there’s no actual plan what to do with money.

    Reform or Restore would be the same here.
    What do you think Britain is doing at the moment? We are touting a big increase in the headline figure military spend, and planning to use it to pay for Chagos. Presumably we can deter the enemy parachute regiments by waving the Chagos agreement at them.
    Parachute regiments are becoming less of a thing - certainly in the UK. We are reducing to one battalion iirc.

    And afaics military people (real military people, not brass hatters) seem to think there are higher priorities.
    Quick delurk to issue a pedantic correction: according to my Para acquaintance, we are not reducing the number of Para battalions, just confirming the status quo that only one battalion is on immediate readiness at any time.
    The emphasis I am picking up is that other methods of deployment are preferred, and that in an age of drones everywhere floating down by parachute may be more risky - so the opportunities would be less common.

    But I'm being pedantic back.
    Massed parachute assaults would be interesting…

    A number of years back a friend who went to work in the California defence industry described how the Taiwanese wanted a special mode for a SPAAG system.

    Instead of firing a burst, look, fire another burst etc at fast moving aircraft, they wanted the system to fire one round each, at hundreds of practically stationary targets.

    Yes, as option if the Chinese tried a mass parachute drop.

    It's a dramatic and boys own method but has always been a remarkably shit way of fighting.

    Paratroopers are good for about 24-48 hours against only other light infantry, and rapidly fall intro trouble with armour.
    The Paras went fifty years between combat jumps.

    It has always amused me that after The Battle of Crete Adolf Hitler concluded that parachute infantry should no longer be used whilst we and later the Yanks decided parachute/airborne infantry was the way to go.
    The sacrificial chaos the airdrops caused beyond the beachheads did a great deal for the first (critical) couple of days from D-Day to D+2
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,647
    boulay said:

    What an absolute steaming pile of shit. How can we go from world beaters in the autumn to an indisciplined rabble a few months later. I feel that so much of it is the unnecessary kicking away. Mistakes from kicks last week and this keep putting us on the back foot - when we were playing well in the autumn we were playing a lot more running rugby and we have the runners to do it.

    It’s Borthwick. A desperately average, inherently conservative coach given a pretty good crop of attacking players. So this is what you get

    The more time he has to coach them, the worse it gets
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