Trump says he will increase the global 10% tariff he announced yesterday to 15%.
He's just a really shit version of King Lear at this point.
I just hope he lives long enough to understand the utter disgrace that is coming for him. Not just shouting at the storm, but knowing that everything he ever did was disastrous and the utter contempt that his very name will invoke for every future generation. That his family will lose every penny he and they have grifted and knowing that they will live in ignominy forever. That the name of very name of Trump will be a limitless shame.
I also hope his young victims get the closure they deserve too. I note more and more people are pointing out some of the more lurid allegations contained in the files, with a view that a criminal investigation should now be reopened. After the interrogation of AMW, the Americans may be shamed into addressing these monstrous crimes. About time too.
He's too stupid, too lacking in self awareness and too egotistical to ever have that revelation. But yes, many will curse his name once he's gone, especially MAGA once they realise they've been totally duped.
What is the substance of the supreme court's ruling? If it is that Trump cannot raise tariffs, why has he been allowed to raise them thus far? If it's that he's sort of allowed but NOT THAT MUCH, that doesn't strike me as very legal.
Isn't the point that anyone can do illegal things? It's just that the state has the right to punish you if you do.
Quite what sanction the American state can apply to Team Trump (if any) isn't entirely clear.
Trump has the Army, the supreme court or congress don't.
Much more important he has control of the executive which makes his word law until the court says it isn't. Which can take an unfathomably long time. It is very likely that his new tariffs are also unlawful and use a statute that was designed for other circumstances where there is a contingency that has not been met but it is probable that these tariffs will have expired before that gets ruled upon. And by then he will be on to the next piece of nonsense.
No it does not "make his word law".
He can order federal agencies to do stuff, but his word has no effect as law unless given such power by the Constitution or Congress.
You're a lawyer David, for heavens sake.
Just look at the tariffs. He said he had the right to make them. They were in force and something like $127bn was paid under those rules before Friday when the SC said he did not have that power. So, in what way was his word not law until the court said otherwise? It was enforced by executive agencies. They were paid. And now they will probably have to be paid back.
Look how much other nonsense the USSC has let pass by on an interim basis pending a final decision. That is the scandal. In this country and in most working democracies attached to the rule of law much of Trump's nonsense would be stopped by interim orders until it was found to be lawful. In the US the way their Constitution works is the opposite and far, far too much leeway is given to the executive, at least when a Republican is in office. I stand by my summary.
Even the narcissist himself did not claim to be making law when he set the tariffs, but to have been making a legitimate order under an existing law.
There has always existed a "presumption of regularity" for the actions of the executive under the laws of the nation. It's a mark of a functioning democracy that the executive doesn't ride roughshod over that presumption.
Trump and those around him have managed to put all of that into question, in a very short space of time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_regularity ..In the United States, it generally instructs courts to presume, unless there is clear evidence to the contrary, that executive officials have “properly discharged their official duties” and that government agencies have acted with procedural regularity and with bona fide, non-pretextual reasons. In practice, the presumption can preclude discovery, limit review of the facts, and truncate cases.
In the face of extraordinary executive misconduct or malfeasance, courts may choose (explicitly or implicitly) to narrow its scope, reduce its weight, or even potentially deem the presumption more generally forfeited. This has occurred repeatedly during the administration of President Donald Trump...
Trump says he will increase the global 10% tariff he announced yesterday to 15%.
He's just a really shit version of King Lear at this point.
I just hope he lives long enough to understand the utter disgrace that is coming for him. Not just shouting at the storm, but knowing that everything he ever did was disastrous and the utter contempt that his very name will invoke for every future generation. That his family will lose every penny he and they have grifted and knowing that they will live in ignominy forever. That the name of very name of Trump will be a limitless shame.
I also hope his young victims get the closure they deserve too. I note more and more people are pointing out some of the more lurid allegations contained in the files, with a view that a criminal investigation should now be reopened. After the interrogation of AMW, the Americans may be shamed into addressing these monstrous crimes. About time too.
He's too stupid, too lacking in self awareness and too egotistical to ever have that revelation. But yes, many will curse his name once he's gone, especially MAGA once they realise they've been totally duped.
What is the substance of the supreme court's ruling? If it is that Trump cannot raise tariffs, why has he been allowed to raise them thus far? If it's that he's sort of allowed but NOT THAT MUCH, that doesn't strike me as very legal.
The substance of the ruling is that he can't claim an emergency allows him to do something when it isn't actually an emergency.
Most of what the Trump regime does is top to bottom illegal but they do it anyway: the DOGE department cuts, the ICE deportations, the extortions from law companies and universities, the renaming of the Kennedy Center. They have had hundreds of judgments against them by courts at different levels but they ignore them all. I doubt Trump's 10%, latest I heard 15%, tariff play is any more legal than the last ones.
Factually it's not true that they're ignoring all the court orders.
As a newbie, do I take this Leon character seriously or is he some weirdo and in his bedroom in a sleeveless sweater with his grandma calling him for his tea?
You're not a newbie, you're Moonrabbit. It's not remotely entertaining, please cease.
He's right above about Leon, though.
As Mike Yarwood used to say.
"This is me"
No one else
"me"
Quoting names I've never heard of is pointless, I ain't got a scooby doo who they are.
I thought you said you'd lurked here for some time before you started posting?
I can't imagine you're Heathener though. Heathener surely wasn't real.
The below the belt dig about Dan Hodges' eye made me think it was Scouse tim
Who cares who he is. All that matters is he is an ignorant twat.
Matt Zarb-Cousin @mattzarb · 19m Labour and Reform are both shitting themselves. The attacks are getting increasingly desperate. Their data must be showing the Greens are miles ahead
At least we should be grateful he's not a Russian.
He certainly sounds unique '“I have been a member of the Conservative party since 1978, inspired by Edward Heath,” he said.'
'Lots of interesting lots 'Tables for the fundraising party cost as much as £10,000 each, giving Tory backers the chance to bid for lots including dinner with Michael Gove, lunch with Jacob Rees-Mogg and a shooting trip with the shadow housing secretary, James Cleverly.
The event reportedly raised around £220,000 for the party. A lunch with the shadow energy secretary, Claire Coutinho, sold for £10,000 and a round of golf with David Cameron for a rate of £2,000 a hole.
The most popular lot, however, was the dinner with Badenoch, which attracted bids from a number of senior donors, according to attendees.'
As a newbie, do I take this Leon character seriously or is he some weirdo and in his bedroom in a sleeveless sweater with his grandma calling him for his tea?
You're not a newbie, you're Moonrabbit. It's not remotely entertaining, please cease.
He's right above about Leon, though.
As Mike Yarwood used to say.
"This is me"
No one else
"me"
Quoting names I've never heard of is pointless, I ain't got a scooby doo who they are.
I thought you said you'd lurked here for some time before you started posting?
I can't imagine you're Heathener though. Heathener surely wasn't real.
The below the belt dig about Dan Hodges' eye made me think it was Scouse tim
Who cares who he is. All that matters is he is an ignorant twat.
Oh dear...
Stocks and stones.
Hodges is a sanctimonious lying bully... Bullies don't like it up em.
Trump says he will increase the global 10% tariff he announced yesterday to 15%.
He's just a really shit version of King Lear at this point.
I just hope he lives long enough to understand the utter disgrace that is coming for him. Not just shouting at the storm, but knowing that everything he ever did was disastrous and the utter contempt that his very name will invoke for every future generation. That his family will lose every penny he and they have grifted and knowing that they will live in ignominy forever. That the name of very name of Trump will be a limitless shame.
I also hope his young victims get the closure they deserve too. I note more and more people are pointing out some of the more lurid allegations contained in the files, with a view that a criminal investigation should now be reopened. After the interrogation of AMW, the Americans may be shamed into addressing these monstrous crimes. About time too.
He's too stupid, too lacking in self awareness and too egotistical to ever have that revelation. But yes, many will curse his name once he's gone, especially MAGA once they realise they've been totally duped.
What is the substance of the supreme court's ruling? If it is that Trump cannot raise tariffs, why has he been allowed to raise them thus far? If it's that he's sort of allowed but NOT THAT MUCH, that doesn't strike me as very legal.
The substance of the ruling is that he can't claim an emergency allows him to do something when it isn't actually an emergency.
Most of what the Trump regime does is top to bottom illegal but they do it anyway: the DOGE department cuts, the ICE deportations, the extortions from law companies and universities, the renaming of the Kennedy Center. They have had hundreds of judgments against them by courts at different levels but they ignore them all. I doubt Trump's 10%, latest I heard 15%, tariff play is any more legal than the last ones.
Factually it's not true that they're ignoring all the court orders.
Given they don't revert their illegal policies I would say they are ignoring court orders
Matt Zarb-Cousin @mattzarb · 19m Labour and Reform are both shitting themselves. The attacks are getting increasingly desperate. Their data must be showing the Greens are miles ahead
Yes because someone with 'Vote Green' on their twitter profile is clearly an objective observer, I mean really!!! https://x.com/mattzarb
Maybe it is even true, but 'they are scared of us, so they are attacking us' is such an obvious and overplayed cliche I don't know how any political operator uses it with a straight face.
Sure, politicians attack other politicians they are scared of, but they attack plenty of other politicians too.
Andrew may have used RAF jets to meet Epstein, Brown tells police
Telegraph reveals details of former PM’s letter containing ‘new information’ about ex-prince
Gordon Brown has demanded a police investigation into whether Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor used taxpayer-funded jets and RAF bases to meet the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein.
In letters sent to six police forces, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal the former prime minister suggested that civil servants be questioned about Mr Mountbatten-Windsor’s time as a trade envoy between 2001 and 2011, including almost three years when Mr Brown was in No 10.
He has also demanded a full investigation into the trade envoy role, its cost to taxpayers, and any evidence that links Mr Mountbatten-Windsor’s government work to Epstein.
Did Gordon Brown not have 3 years to make inquiries about this when he was PM? And indeed before that as Chancellor? His recent interventions have been odd, to say the least.
His strict Scottish Presbyterian household coming to the fore
I am a little puzzled as to why Andrew has been publicly humiliated (birthday etc.) for alledgedly passing on some guff he found out as a token trade envoy, whereas Mandy has not been arrested when there is clear evidence that he passed on very important and commercially sensitive information to the same person.
I was thinking the same thing, it is quite curious. Possibly it is because it is deemed more likely Andrew has committed other, much worse, crimes (indeed, it seems highly likely to me) so doing a Capone on him (even if it ends up being token) is a higher priority than Mandy even though the latter was very clearly doing the same thing from a more powerful governmental position.
I have just finished watching The Tony Blair Story; maybe the programme was supposed to provoke this reaction, but it seems so obvious that he is trying to do everything he can to balance the scales after Iraq. I wonder whether he will ever admit it
Trump says he will increase the global 10% tariff he announced yesterday to 15%.
He's just a really shit version of King Lear at this point.
I just hope he lives long enough to understand the utter disgrace that is coming for him. Not just shouting at the storm, but knowing that everything he ever did was disastrous and the utter contempt that his very name will invoke for every future generation. That his family will lose every penny he and they have grifted and knowing that they will live in ignominy forever. That the name of very name of Trump will be a limitless shame.
I also hope his young victims get the closure they deserve too. I note more and more people are pointing out some of the more lurid allegations contained in the files, with a view that a criminal investigation should now be reopened. After the interrogation of AMW, the Americans may be shamed into addressing these monstrous crimes. About time too.
He's too stupid, too lacking in self awareness and too egotistical to ever have that revelation. But yes, many will curse his name once he's gone, especially MAGA once they realise they've been totally duped.
What is the substance of the supreme court's ruling? If it is that Trump cannot raise tariffs, why has he been allowed to raise them thus far? If it's that he's sort of allowed but NOT THAT MUCH, that doesn't strike me as very legal.
Isn't the point that anyone can do illegal things? It's just that the state has the right to punish you if you do.
Quite what sanction the American state can apply to Team Trump (if any) isn't entirely clear.
Trump has the Army, the supreme court or congress don't.
Much more important he has control of the executive which makes his word law until the court says it isn't. Which can take an unfathomably long time. It is very likely that his new tariffs are also unlawful and use a statute that was designed for other circumstances where there is a contingency that has not been met but it is probable that these tariffs will have expired before that gets ruled upon. And by then he will be on to the next piece of nonsense.
I know we discussed this last night, but I still think these tariffs are [wrong but] legal under the statute. Within the limits and timeframe that the statute permits.
Yes it was designed for other circumstances, but the law is the law regardless of circumstances.
It is far from unprecedented for a law to be applied in a different way to which its drafters had intended, which is why we should be wary of giving governments powers to [ab]use.
I don't think it matters too much either way. The Supreme Court isn't going to hear a challenge to these tariffs before the 150 days is up, so the focus moves to whether Congress is going to extend them.
Reform has become the new political home for disgruntled Conservative and Labour members and voters, and Restore will become a new home for the Reform revolving door that will see a steady stream of disgruntled and disillusioned members and voters leaving who don't want to return to their form political parties.
We saw the same thing happen when Farage was leader of UKIP as people within the party came up against his less than democratic top down leadership style. Its ironic that the first two senior political casualties of Farage's leadership of the Reform party have now both gone onto form their own political parties.
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..In the United States, it generally instructs courts to presume, unless there is clear evidence to the contrary, that executive officials have “properly discharged their official duties” and that government agencies have acted with procedural regularity and with bona fide, non-pretextual reasons. In practice, the presumption can preclude discovery, limit review of the facts, and truncate cases.
In the face of extraordinary executive misconduct or malfeasance, courts may choose (explicitly or implicitly) to narrow its scope, reduce its weight, or even potentially deem the presumption more generally forfeited. This has occurred repeatedly during the administration of President Donald Trump...
https://x.com/mattzarb
'Lots of interesting lots 'Tables for the fundraising party cost as much as £10,000 each, giving Tory backers the chance to bid for lots including dinner with Michael Gove, lunch with Jacob Rees-Mogg and a shooting trip with the shadow housing secretary, James Cleverly.
The event reportedly raised around £220,000 for the party. A lunch with the shadow energy secretary, Claire Coutinho, sold for £10,000 and a round of golf with David Cameron for a rate of £2,000 a hole.
The most popular lot, however, was the dinner with Badenoch, which attracted bids from a number of senior donors, according to attendees.'
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/feb/21/donor-suspended-from-tories-pays-50000-for-dinner-with-kemi-badenoch
Stocks and stones.
Hodges is a sanctimonious lying bully... Bullies don't like it up em.
Sure, politicians attack other politicians they are scared of, but they attack plenty of other politicians too.
We saw the same thing happen when Farage was leader of UKIP as people within the party came up against his less than democratic top down leadership style. Its ironic that the first two senior political casualties of Farage's leadership of the Reform party have now both gone onto form their own political parties.