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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,454
    Scotland!!!!
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,170
    Unlucky Wales.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,558

    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    Leon said:

    I have just discovered that the world’s most ultra advanced silicon chips - the very best, the infinitely superb, the chips hurtling us into a terrifyingly new future - are made about 25 minutes’ moped ride from my hotel

    In the same city once seized by the Dutch and the British and various pirates and the Ming Dynasty and various pirates again and then the Japanese empire who built a torture garden and a great department store and then the quasi fascist nationalists of Chiang Kai Shek and now its home to the worlds best oyster omelettes and hot squid buns and weird stinky tofu. It’s all here. Tainan

    TAINAN

    The most important city in the world of which you’ve never heard. It’s here. And so is my next knappers gazette article

    Superb!

    Oh mate, I've heard about it and so have most PBers.

    Why do you think people say a Chinese invasion of Taiwan will lead to a huge chip shortage which could take the world years to recover from.
    Why do you (@Leon) think that the US decided that maintaining their Pacific fleet was much more important than having a standing army in Europe? The US has a major strategic weakness in their dependency on Taiwanese chips and Biden's Chips and Science Act was designed to address that. They are still somewhat short of addressing the weakness but it has to be said that they are a lot further down the road than Europe.
    TaiNan the city not TaiWan the country you stupid moronic dolt

    Yes we all know Taiwan is crucial but how many know this small ancient city in southwest Taiwan is so particularly and weirdly pivotal

    Probably 0.000001% of the world at best and certainly not “nearly everyone on PB” - I sincerely doubt you’d heard of TaiNan the city until now

    I’m right aren’t I? Of course I’m right. I always am
    I've heard of it before yesterday!
    Me too.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,754

    Scotland!!!!

    I blame @Penddu2

    And the WRU of course.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,454
    ydoethur said:

    Scotland!!!!

    I blame @Penddu2

    And the WRU of course.
    It's Karma for all the years the Welsh has abused English rugby fans, I've never know anything like it.
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,170
    Barnesian said:

    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    algarkirk said:

    algarkirk said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    Mine wasn't junk mail. It had useful information on it. He thought it was junk mail but I wasn't to know that and didn't want to deny him the choice.
    If he requested no junk mail, which generally means unsolicited, it’s poor form to post it in his box
    The householder's mistake was the use of the vague pejorative term of "junk mail", whose interpretation is open to question and indeed is almost guaranteed to breed confusion since who is going to be giving up their free time to deliver something they consider to be junk? As with all good writing it is better to be more specific, eg "no leaflets, menus or estate agents materials, please" (the "please" because it always pays to be polite).
    Oh please. The mistake was posting unwanted crap. The householder was not the one in the wrong.
    Yes he was. It's obvious that the householder thinks that he is the judge of junk, and isn't going to tell the person putting it through the box in advance how he judges it.

    Such notices lead people (literally) up the garden path and then leave them with an unresolvable ambiguity. Volunteers who post political leaflets deserve better.

    It is also unfair on postmen/women who have no choice as to what they do, but it tries to put them in the wrong.

    It's trivial, but still wrong.

    Sorry but I disagree. If I was canvassing (as I have in the past for independents) and saw a sign saying no junk mail then I would certainly not put a leaflet through that door. You may not like it but for the vast majority of people political flyers are indeed junk mail. Something we then have to dispose of on your behalf. Every flyer from a commercial firm contains information they think you would want to read but it is still junk. The same applies to the brand you are selling.

    It is strange that if I drop paper in the street I can be done for littering. If I stick it through someones letterbox unwanted then it is supposedly fine.

    If someone has gone to the courtesy of putting up a sign then you should have the decency to accept that and move on.
    This small issue is clearly unresolvable.

    I think the meaning of junk mail is fairly clearly unsolicited mail, so anything you haven't requested yourself, from an existing supplier, or from a government agency with the authority to contact you. A political leaflet is just as much junk mail as a leaflet from your local Fried Chicken shop, which equally may contain useful information.

    Why people get so exercised about it I have no idea. Most of mine goes straight in the recycling, occasionally I get something interesting. I certainly don't regard it as a breach of privacy as many seem to do.
    Quite. It's not a contract or agreement. It's a request, polite or otherwise, that can be ignored.
    If a householder wants to get upset about it, that's up to them.
    I react with amusement when a householder runs after me waving the leaflet and shouting.
    I must confess that it doesn't help the situation - but life's too short to take it seriously.
    If it’s a request why ignore it ?

    What do you get from setting out to wind up housheholders ?
    I don't set out to wind up householders. That would negate the purpose of the leafleting and be politically foolish. But very few are wound up enough to remonstrate.

    At each door, I'm making a political judgement of the potential value of them seeing the leaflet and registering our presence even if they don't read it, versus upsetting a potential supporter.
    Almost all those who complain are not supporters anyway.
    Sometimes, if it's in big bold red letters, very tidy garden, I don't deliver. No point. Probably Reform. Why waste a leaflet.
    If it's in faded small green lettering that been up for years, with a pram outside and kids toys and a tatty garden, I deliver. Probably Green. Might even read it. Possibly squeezable.
    Do you have a tidy garden, or a tatty one?
    If you've watched Small Prophets, you'll appreciate the difference.
    No, not seen it. I’ve heard of it. Michael Palin is in it.

    Front and back garden are certainly large by the standards of new build but small by the standard of a thirties semi.

    I’m happy I can keep on top of it.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,558
    edited 6:34PM
    @Leon

    0.000001%

    So that's 10^-8 chance

    So just 1/10th of a person in the world has ever heard of a major place in Taiwan? I think more than that live there don't they?

    He's doing very well this 1/10th of a person though. I wonder what he gets up to with the rest of his time.

    Edit: Might be wrong here - it is perhaps 100 people - still, the same applies
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,170
    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    BTW:

    ChatJimmy. Wow.

    I mean it's a model hardcoded into silicon (and a small and an out of date one at that), but at the same time... it's 17,000 tokens per second. That's literally instant.

    Speed is impressive. But its embarrassingly wrong a lot of the time.
    It’s shit.

    I asked it about wrestler Road Warrior Hawk, first thing came into my head and I know the answers, the answers it gave were pitifully wrong.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 86,550
    Scott_xP said:

    He's awake, and still mad...

    @annmarie

    Trump says he will increase the global 10% tariff he announced yesterday to 15%.

    He's just a really shit version of King Lear at this point.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,199
    edited 6:34PM
    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    boulay said:

    What an absolute steaming pile of shit. How can we go from world beaters in the autumn to an indisciplined rabble a few months later. I feel that so much of it is the unnecessary kicking away. Mistakes from kicks last week and this keep putting us on the back foot - when we were playing well in the autumn we were playing a lot more running rugby and we have the runners to do it.

    It’s Borthwick. A desperately average, inherently conservative coach given a pretty good crop of attacking players. So this is what you get

    The more time he has to coach them, the worse it gets
    Yet Borthwick was there in the Autumn and against Wales, when England were playing with flair. And it's j9t that they haven't been attempting to play with flair today. They just haven't been very good.
    Fragile confidence. Popped by the Scot’s, then down again today. No plan either. And much as some will say no, both Scotland and Ireland have had their best game for a long time against England.
    Nah. It’s Borthwick. He’s the rugby equivalent of Gareth Southgate but even worse

    Quintessentially a loser, with pedestrian ideas. Given some great players
    Southgate won most of his matches and got to the semi finals and a final of big tournaments, after Sir Alf Ramsay and Sir Bobby Robson he was the best England football manager.

    Borthwick is not in Southgate's league
    HE DIDNT WIN A SINGLE TOURNAMENT
    Nor has any England manager or coach football or rugby union apart from Sir Alf Ramsey and Sir Clive Woodward (if you exclude the 5/6 Nations). So it is all relative
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,318
    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    BTW:

    ChatJimmy. Wow.

    I mean it's a model hardcoded into silicon (and a small and an out of date one at that), but at the same time... it's 17,000 tokens per second. That's literally instant.

    Speed is impressive. But its embarrassingly wrong a lot of the time.
    It's a proof of concept using LLaMA 8bn from two years ago!

    It's not supposed to be goodl; it's a demonstration that if you hardcode an LLM directly into silicon, you can produce something that runs at 100x the speed of other chips.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,647
    Omnium said:

    @Leon

    0.000001%

    So that's 10^-8 chance

    So just 1/10th of a person in the world has ever heard of a major place in Taiwan? I think more than that live there don't they?

    He's doing very well this 1/10th of a person though. I wonder what he gets up to with the rest of his time.

    Edit: Might be wrong here - it is perhaps 100 people - still, the same applies

    Jesus you did the maths? You tragic fuck
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,647
    Taz said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    BTW:

    ChatJimmy. Wow.

    I mean it's a model hardcoded into silicon (and a small and an out of date one at that), but at the same time... it's 17,000 tokens per second. That's literally instant.

    Speed is impressive. But its embarrassingly wrong a lot of the time.
    It’s shit.

    I asked it about wrestler Road Warrior Hawk, first thing came into my head and I know the answers, the answers it gave were pitifully wrong.
    Likewise. V poor
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 10,696
    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    boulay said:

    What an absolute steaming pile of shit. How can we go from world beaters in the autumn to an indisciplined rabble a few months later. I feel that so much of it is the unnecessary kicking away. Mistakes from kicks last week and this keep putting us on the back foot - when we were playing well in the autumn we were playing a lot more running rugby and we have the runners to do it.

    It’s Borthwick. A desperately average, inherently conservative coach given a pretty good crop of attacking players. So this is what you get

    The more time he has to coach them, the worse it gets
    Yet Borthwick was there in the Autumn and against Wales, when England were playing with flair. And it's j9t that they haven't been attempting to play with flair today. They just haven't been very good.
    Fragile confidence. Popped by the Scot’s, then down again today. No plan either. And much as some will say no, both Scotland and Ireland have had their best game for a long time against England.
    Nah. It’s Borthwick. He’s the rugby equivalent of Gareth Southgate but even worse

    Quintessentially a loser, with pedestrian ideas. Given some great players
    Southgate won most of his matches and got to the semi finals and a final of big tournaments, after Sir Alf Ramsay and Sir Bobby Robson he was the best England football manager.

    Borthwick is not in Southgate's league
    Was Robson that great? Getting to a single WC semi-final was about the best of it.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,558
    Leon said:

    Omnium said:

    @Leon

    0.000001%

    So that's 10^-8 chance

    So just 1/10th of a person in the world has ever heard of a major place in Taiwan? I think more than that live there don't they?

    He's doing very well this 1/10th of a person though. I wonder what he gets up to with the rest of his time.

    Edit: Might be wrong here - it is perhaps 100 people - still, the same applies

    Jesus you did the maths? You tragic fuck
    Well I did it poorly, so yes, you're right. Understanding the world you live in is of benefit though. You should try it.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,777
    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    algarkirk said:

    algarkirk said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    Mine wasn't junk mail. It had useful information on it. He thought it was junk mail but I wasn't to know that and didn't want to deny him the choice.
    If he requested no junk mail, which generally means unsolicited, it’s poor form to post it in his box
    The householder's mistake was the use of the vague pejorative term of "junk mail", whose interpretation is open to question and indeed is almost guaranteed to breed confusion since who is going to be giving up their free time to deliver something they consider to be junk? As with all good writing it is better to be more specific, eg "no leaflets, menus or estate agents materials, please" (the "please" because it always pays to be polite).
    Oh please. The mistake was posting unwanted crap. The householder was not the one in the wrong.
    Yes he was. It's obvious that the householder thinks that he is the judge of junk, and isn't going to tell the person putting it through the box in advance how he judges it.

    Such notices lead people (literally) up the garden path and then leave them with an unresolvable ambiguity. Volunteers who post political leaflets deserve better.

    It is also unfair on postmen/women who have no choice as to what they do, but it tries to put them in the wrong.

    It's trivial, but still wrong.

    Sorry but I disagree. If I was canvassing (as I have in the past for independents) and saw a sign saying no junk mail then I would certainly not put a leaflet through that door. You may not like it but for the vast majority of people political flyers are indeed junk mail. Something we then have to dispose of on your behalf. Every flyer from a commercial firm contains information they think you would want to read but it is still junk. The same applies to the brand you are selling.

    It is strange that if I drop paper in the street I can be done for littering. If I stick it through someones letterbox unwanted then it is supposedly fine.

    If someone has gone to the courtesy of putting up a sign then you should have the decency to accept that and move on.
    This small issue is clearly unresolvable.

    I think the meaning of junk mail is fairly clearly unsolicited mail, so anything you haven't requested yourself, from an existing supplier, or from a government agency with the authority to contact you. A political leaflet is just as much junk mail as a leaflet from your local Fried Chicken shop, which equally may contain useful information.

    Why people get so exercised about it I have no idea. Most of mine goes straight in the recycling, occasionally I get something interesting. I certainly don't regard it as a breach of privacy as many seem to do.
    Quite. It's not a contract or agreement. It's a request, polite or otherwise, that can be ignored.
    If a householder wants to get upset about it, that's up to them.
    I react with amusement when a householder runs after me waving the leaflet and shouting.
    I must confess that it doesn't help the situation - but life's too short to take it seriously.
    If it’s a request why ignore it ?

    What do you get from setting out to wind up housheholders ?
    I don't set out to wind up householders. That would negate the purpose of the leafleting and be politically foolish. But very few are wound up enough to remonstrate.

    At each door, I'm making a political judgement of the potential value of them seeing the leaflet and registering our presence even if they don't read it, versus upsetting a potential supporter.
    Almost all those who complain are not supporters anyway.
    Sometimes, if it's in big bold red letters, very tidy garden, I don't deliver. No point. Probably Reform. Why waste a leaflet.
    If it's in faded small green lettering that been up for years, with a pram outside and kids toys and a tatty garden, I deliver. Probably Green. Might even read it. Possibly squeezable.
    Do you have a tidy garden, or a tatty one?
    If you've watched Small Prophets, you'll appreciate the difference.
    No, not seen it. I’ve heard of it. Michael Palin is in it.

    Front and back garden are certainly large by the standards of new build but small by the standard of a thirties semi.

    I’m happy I can keep on top of it.
    Small Prophets is weird and quirky and well worth watching. It's a feel good series 6 x 30 mins.
    Yes Michael Palin is excellent and so is Mackenzie Crook who wrote it. They all are.


    Two neighbours gardens.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 86,550
    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    I’m going to go there. Monday. The South Taiwan Science Park. Where TSMC make the world’s best silicon chips

    I reckon if I just act a bit dumb (yes yes) and look like a nerd with a box of tuna sandwiches made by his mum they’ll let me in to the factory and wander around taking photos. Can’t see any likely issues there

    Oddly this isn't true any more. At least according to ASML. Intel are so far the only company that has properly delivered high NA EUV chips using their 14A process which goes into volume production towards the end of this year. I'm given to believe that Intel's first 14A manufacturing is in Oregon and half of the production capacity is already sold to Apple for their next generation of Mac chips.
    Let's wait and see what kind of yields they get.

    They're certainly not ahead of TSMC, but they might now be back in the game.

    In any event the cost/benefit in shrinking feature size is getting smaller with each iteration.
    Other stuff is getting more important.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,709
    I believe I've recommended them before, but all those of you who are looking wide-eyed and innocent at the fact that Taiwan makes chips may wish to go to the YouTube channel "Asianometry". He is a Taiwanese gentleman with great knowledge of chip lore, and has a soothing voice well fitted for listening to whilst working. People writing articles for knob-monger magazines may wish to listen to them and incorporate the facts within. Properly credited, of course.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 86,550
    Excellent short article here on molten lead nuclear reactors.
    https://x.com/Jordan_W_Taylor/status/2025161410355802462
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,754
    Taz said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    BTW:

    ChatJimmy. Wow.

    I mean it's a model hardcoded into silicon (and a small and an out of date one at that), but at the same time... it's 17,000 tokens per second. That's literally instant.

    Speed is impressive. But its embarrassingly wrong a lot of the time.
    It’s shit.

    I asked it about wrestler Road Warrior Hawk, first thing came into my head and I know the answers, the answers it gave were pitifully wrong.
    Not as bad as the Welsh rugby team.

    I don't know what's more embarrassing - the result, or the feeble attempts to 'take the positives.'

    If the whole of the WRU isn't sacked following this, it's time for a revolution.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,129
    Listening to the debate on Taiwan has brought on a right Nether Heage.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,468
    One of the weirdest elements of the Winter Olympics is Britain remembering every 4 years that curling's a thing and we're actually alright at it.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 32,202
    Hmmm.

    Leaving aside the issue of a live police investigation, would be a suitable measure for these exception events for the possible con-artist formerly known as Prince to be questioned at the Bar of the House of Commons.

    It would be suitably historic.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,558
    stodge said:

    Listening to the debate on Taiwan has brought on a right Nether Heage.

    Such is Wimbledon Common.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,754
    edited 7:04PM
    MattW said:

    Hmmm.

    Leaving aside the issue of a live police investigation, would be a suitable measure for these exception events for the possible con-artist formerly known as Prince to be questioned at the Bar of the House of Commons.

    It would be suitably historic.

    they haven't done that to a royal since the good old days of 1649.

    They finished that one by chopping his head off.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,271
    Robert A. Pape
    @ProfessorPape
    ·
    4h
    This represents 40-50% of the deployable US air power in the world. Think air power on the order of the 1991 and 2003 Iraq war. And growing. Never has the US deployed this much force against a potential enemy and not launched strikes.

    https://x.com/ProfessorPape/status/2025214568050446627
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 41,283
    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    I’m going to go there. Monday. The South Taiwan Science Park. Where TSMC make the world’s best silicon chips

    I reckon if I just act a bit dumb (yes yes) and look like a nerd with a box of tuna sandwiches made by his mum they’ll let me in to the factory and wander around taking photos. Can’t see any likely issues there

    Oddly this isn't true any more. At least according to ASML. Intel are so far the only company that has properly delivered high NA EUV chips using their 14A process which goes into volume production towards the end of this year. I'm given to believe that Intel's first 14A manufacturing is in Oregon and half of the production capacity is already sold to Apple for their next generation of Mac chips.
    I humbly submit the application of Mandy Rice Davies
    It's 10 years doing this for a living, I wouldn't expect other people to know this level of detail!
    Intel used to have an edge on the process side, because they were building fabrication plants just to build their own CPUs, rather than doing foundry for anyone.

    But I'm ten years out of date on this, and I know Intel now both does foundry itself and utilizes foundries, so I might well be wildly off base with what is current.
    They do all three at the moment, they use external foundries for their own products, they use internal foundries and they've started contracting their own foundry capacity to external partners. Their biggest win so far seems to be Apple who are buying up 18A and 14A capacity for M series chips for Mac and supposedly their new modem chips for the next iPhones.

    They're also supposedly in talks with Nvidia for capacity to build next gen AI chips on 14A too. As a shareholder who bought at $19 when it looked like they might get broken up and sold for IP I feel pretty good about myself...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,754
    edited 7:07PM

    Robert A. Pape
    @ProfessorPape
    ·
    4h
    This represents 40-50% of the deployable US air power in the world. Think air power on the order of the 1991 and 2003 Iraq war. And growing. Never has the US deployed this much force against a potential enemy and not launched strikes.

    https://x.com/ProfessorPape/status/2025214568050446627

    True, but the US has never before been led by a President with such an erratic personality and a penchant for chickening out.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,271
    Farage: That well-known traveller @Leon is in Taiwan trying to get into a silicon foundry?

    Hold my beer.


    Nigel Farage MP

    @Nigel_Farage
    ·
    48m
    I have been denied entry to the Chagos Islands by the UK government.

    https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/2025273596156019094
  • MattWMattW Posts: 32,202
    edited 7:09PM
    ..
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,494
    Barnesian said:

    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    algarkirk said:

    algarkirk said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    Mine wasn't junk mail. It had useful information on it. He thought it was junk mail but I wasn't to know that and didn't want to deny him the choice.
    If he requested no junk mail, which generally means unsolicited, it’s poor form to post it in his box
    The householder's mistake was the use of the vague pejorative term of "junk mail", whose interpretation is open to question and indeed is almost guaranteed to breed confusion since who is going to be giving up their free time to deliver something they consider to be junk? As with all good writing it is better to be more specific, eg "no leaflets, menus or estate agents materials, please" (the "please" because it always pays to be polite).
    Oh please. The mistake was posting unwanted crap. The householder was not the one in the wrong.
    Yes he was. It's obvious that the householder thinks that he is the judge of junk, and isn't going to tell the person putting it through the box in advance how he judges it.

    Such notices lead people (literally) up the garden path and then leave them with an unresolvable ambiguity. Volunteers who post political leaflets deserve better.

    It is also unfair on postmen/women who have no choice as to what they do, but it tries to put them in the wrong.

    It's trivial, but still wrong.

    Sorry but I disagree. If I was canvassing (as I have in the past for independents) and saw a sign saying no junk mail then I would certainly not put a leaflet through that door. You may not like it but for the vast majority of people political flyers are indeed junk mail. Something we then have to dispose of on your behalf. Every flyer from a commercial firm contains information they think you would want to read but it is still junk. The same applies to the brand you are selling.

    It is strange that if I drop paper in the street I can be done for littering. If I stick it through someones letterbox unwanted then it is supposedly fine.

    If someone has gone to the courtesy of putting up a sign then you should have the decency to accept that and move on.
    This small issue is clearly unresolvable.

    I think the meaning of junk mail is fairly clearly unsolicited mail, so anything you haven't requested yourself, from an existing supplier, or from a government agency with the authority to contact you. A political leaflet is just as much junk mail as a leaflet from your local Fried Chicken shop, which equally may contain useful information.

    Why people get so exercised about it I have no idea. Most of mine goes straight in the recycling, occasionally I get something interesting. I certainly don't regard it as a breach of privacy as many seem to do.
    Quite. It's not a contract or agreement. It's a request, polite or otherwise, that can be ignored.
    If a householder wants to get upset about it, that's up to them.
    I react with amusement when a householder runs after me waving the leaflet and shouting.
    I must confess that it doesn't help the situation - but life's too short to take it seriously.
    If it’s a request why ignore it ?

    What do you get from setting out to wind up housheholders ?
    I don't set out to wind up householders. That would negate the purpose of the leafleting and be politically foolish. But very few are wound up enough to remonstrate.

    At each door, I'm making a political judgement of the potential value of them seeing the leaflet and registering our presence even if they don't read it, versus upsetting a potential supporter.
    Almost all those who complain are not supporters anyway.
    Sometimes, if it's in big bold red letters, very tidy garden, I don't deliver. No point. Probably Reform. Why waste a leaflet.
    If it's in faded small green lettering that been up for years, with a pram outside and kids toys and a tatty garden, I deliver. Probably Green. Might even read it. Possibly squeezable.
    Do you have a tidy garden, or a tatty one?
    If you've watched Small Prophets, you'll appreciate the difference.
    No, not seen it. I’ve heard of it. Michael Palin is in it.

    Front and back garden are certainly large by the standards of new build but small by the standard of a thirties semi.

    I’m happy I can keep on top of it.
    Small Prophets is weird and quirky and well worth watching. It's a feel good series 6 x 30 mins.
    Yes Michael Palin is excellent and so is Mackenzie Crook who wrote it. They all are.


    Two neighbours gardens.
    You mean a car park and a garden.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,416
    Good effort by Wales in the first 30 minutes but you could see they were flagging before half time. Either they aren't fit enough or they need to pace themselves better.

    Isn't the basic problem that Taiwan has done better than mainland China since 1945? It's a daily reminder of what they could have been were it not for Mao and communism.

  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 41,283
    Nigelb said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    I’m going to go there. Monday. The South Taiwan Science Park. Where TSMC make the world’s best silicon chips

    I reckon if I just act a bit dumb (yes yes) and look like a nerd with a box of tuna sandwiches made by his mum they’ll let me in to the factory and wander around taking photos. Can’t see any likely issues there

    Oddly this isn't true any more. At least according to ASML. Intel are so far the only company that has properly delivered high NA EUV chips using their 14A process which goes into volume production towards the end of this year. I'm given to believe that Intel's first 14A manufacturing is in Oregon and half of the production capacity is already sold to Apple for their next generation of Mac chips.
    Let's wait and see what kind of yields they get.

    They're certainly not ahead of TSMC, but they might now be back in the game.

    In any event the cost/benefit in shrinking feature size is getting smaller with each iteration.
    Other stuff is getting more important.
    14A is certainly ahead of anything TSMC has in production, die shrinks are still going to be very important going forwards, 14A is 50% more dense than anything else available today for example. That alone brings a lot of gains for the highest end chips.

    Either way more options and breaking the TSMC monopoly over high end silicon is an absolute must. If we can get Intel back in at the highest end OpenAI's strategy of forcing all users into cloud based AI compute is completely fucked so there's that to look forwards too as well.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 6,989

    Farage: That well-known traveller @Leon is in Taiwan trying to get into a silicon foundry?

    Hold my beer.


    Nigel Farage MP

    @Nigel_Farage
    ·
    48m
    I have been denied entry to the Chagos Islands by the UK government.

    https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/2025273596156019094

    More pathetic showboating by the Trump gimp .
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,192
    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    He's awake, and still mad...

    @annmarie

    Trump says he will increase the global 10% tariff he announced yesterday to 15%.

    He's just a really shit version of King Lear at this point.
    I just hope he lives long enough to understand the utter disgrace that is coming for him. Not just shouting at the storm, but knowing that everything he ever did was disastrous and the utter contempt that his very name will invoke for every future generation. That his family will lose every penny he and they have grifted and knowing that they will live in ignominy forever. That the name of very name of Trump will be a limitless shame.

    I also hope his young victims get the closure they deserve too. I note more and more people are pointing out some of the more lurid allegations contained in the files, with a view that a criminal investigation should now be reopened. After the interrogation of AMW, the Americans may be shamed into addressing these monstrous crimes. About time too.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,494
    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    Hmmm.

    Leaving aside the issue of a live police investigation, would be a suitable measure for these exception events for the possible con-artist formerly known as Prince to be questioned at the Bar of the House of Commons.

    It would be suitably historic.

    they haven't done that to a royal since the good old days of 1649.

    They finished that one by chopping his head off.
    If another bit of Andrew had been chopped off years ago he wouldn't be in so much bother.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,754

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    Hmmm.

    Leaving aside the issue of a live police investigation, would be a suitable measure for these exception events for the possible con-artist formerly known as Prince to be questioned at the Bar of the House of Commons.

    It would be suitably historic.

    they haven't done that to a royal since the good old days of 1649.

    They finished that one by chopping his head off.
    If another bit of Andrew had been chopped off years ago he wouldn't be in so much bother.
    It would have caused cheerfulness, or at least been a source of apenis.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,080
    nico67 said:

    Farage: That well-known traveller @Leon is in Taiwan trying to get into a silicon foundry?

    Hold my beer.


    Nigel Farage MP

    @Nigel_Farage
    ·
    48m
    I have been denied entry to the Chagos Islands by the UK government.

    https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/2025273596156019094

    More pathetic showboating by the Trump gimp .
    You OK hun?
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 26,034

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:
    I have posted on PB a few times over the years that a senior politician once told me that they wouldn’t be surprised to wake up one day to the news that Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor’s bodyguards had shot and killed AMW.

    Getting Indiraed is the technical term.
    I wonder if he sometimes now wishes they had.
    I do wonder in all this if AMW may compromise his brother, or even if Charles is interviewed over just what he knew when his mother and himself paid the money to Virginia Giuffre

    This could get even more of a problem for the royals
    If anything Charles has come out well this week, especially once it became clear he advised against his brother being appointed the trade envoy where he leaked inforrmation but his mother overruled him and Mandelson ensured Andrew got the job anyway.

    Andrew has of course faced no charges as yet about sex and was only arrested in relation to leaking information as a trade envoy
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/38288484/mandelson-pushed-prince-andrew-trade-envoy-despite-king-concerns/
    As PB’s premier royalist, what do your think of Andrew paying £12m of the queen’s (and possibly others’) money with her full support to a woman he said he’d never met, for something he never did?
    Has that figure ever been confirmed? I ask because after Virginia Giuffre died her estate was very small and there was talk of arguments among her family about where the money was.
  • Penddu2Penddu2 Posts: 873
    edited 7:23PM
    ydoethur said:

    Scotland!!!!

    I blame @Penddu2

    And the WRU of course.
    I accept some of the blame.... but it was mostly wru


    But on a serious note we led that game for 70 minutes. Costellow got the back line moving and we looked like a real rugby team for most of the match.

    I think the big mistake we made was when we went for a penalty kick around 65 mins and then we relaxed and let Scotland in for an easy try. We should have gone for a lineout. We were winning all of our lineouts at that point and our driving game was strong. We settled for an easy 3 when we coukd have had a dominant 5 or 7.
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,170
    Barnesian said:

    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    algarkirk said:

    algarkirk said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    Mine wasn't junk mail. It had useful information on it. He thought it was junk mail but I wasn't to know that and didn't want to deny him the choice.
    If he requested no junk mail, which generally means unsolicited, it’s poor form to post it in his box
    The householder's mistake was the use of the vague pejorative term of "junk mail", whose interpretation is open to question and indeed is almost guaranteed to breed confusion since who is going to be giving up their free time to deliver something they consider to be junk? As with all good writing it is better to be more specific, eg "no leaflets, menus or estate agents materials, please" (the "please" because it always pays to be polite).
    Oh please. The mistake was posting unwanted crap. The householder was not the one in the wrong.
    Yes he was. It's obvious that the householder thinks that he is the judge of junk, and isn't going to tell the person putting it through the box in advance how he judges it.

    Such notices lead people (literally) up the garden path and then leave them with an unresolvable ambiguity. Volunteers who post political leaflets deserve better.

    It is also unfair on postmen/women who have no choice as to what they do, but it tries to put them in the wrong.

    It's trivial, but still wrong.

    Sorry but I disagree. If I was canvassing (as I have in the past for independents) and saw a sign saying no junk mail then I would certainly not put a leaflet through that door. You may not like it but for the vast majority of people political flyers are indeed junk mail. Something we then have to dispose of on your behalf. Every flyer from a commercial firm contains information they think you would want to read but it is still junk. The same applies to the brand you are selling.

    It is strange that if I drop paper in the street I can be done for littering. If I stick it through someones letterbox unwanted then it is supposedly fine.

    If someone has gone to the courtesy of putting up a sign then you should have the decency to accept that and move on.
    This small issue is clearly unresolvable.

    I think the meaning of junk mail is fairly clearly unsolicited mail, so anything you haven't requested yourself, from an existing supplier, or from a government agency with the authority to contact you. A political leaflet is just as much junk mail as a leaflet from your local Fried Chicken shop, which equally may contain useful information.

    Why people get so exercised about it I have no idea. Most of mine goes straight in the recycling, occasionally I get something interesting. I certainly don't regard it as a breach of privacy as many seem to do.
    Quite. It's not a contract or agreement. It's a request, polite or otherwise, that can be ignored.
    If a householder wants to get upset about it, that's up to them.
    I react with amusement when a householder runs after me waving the leaflet and shouting.
    I must confess that it doesn't help the situation - but life's too short to take it seriously.
    If it’s a request why ignore it ?

    What do you get from setting out to wind up housheholders ?
    I don't set out to wind up householders. That would negate the purpose of the leafleting and be politically foolish. But very few are wound up enough to remonstrate.

    At each door, I'm making a political judgement of the potential value of them seeing the leaflet and registering our presence even if they don't read it, versus upsetting a potential supporter.
    Almost all those who complain are not supporters anyway.
    Sometimes, if it's in big bold red letters, very tidy garden, I don't deliver. No point. Probably Reform. Why waste a leaflet.
    If it's in faded small green lettering that been up for years, with a pram outside and kids toys and a tatty garden, I deliver. Probably Green. Might even read it. Possibly squeezable.
    Do you have a tidy garden, or a tatty one?
    If you've watched Small Prophets, you'll appreciate the difference.
    No, not seen it. I’ve heard of it. Michael Palin is in it.

    Front and back garden are certainly large by the standards of new build but small by the standard of a thirties semi.

    I’m happy I can keep on top of it.
    Small Prophets is weird and quirky and well worth watching. It's a feel good series 6 x 30 mins.
    Yes Michael Palin is excellent and so is Mackenzie Crook who wrote it. They all are.


    Two neighbours gardens.
    I’ll catch it on IPlayer as I don’t think my wife would go for it

    That garden on the left is so sterile !
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,416
    Cicero said:

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    He's awake, and still mad...

    @annmarie

    Trump says he will increase the global 10% tariff he announced yesterday to 15%.

    He's just a really shit version of King Lear at this point.
    I just hope he lives long enough to understand the utter disgrace that is coming for him. Not just shouting at the storm, but knowing that everything he ever did was disastrous and the utter contempt that his very name will invoke for every future generation. That his family will lose every penny he and they have grifted and knowing that they will live in ignominy forever. That the name of very name of Trump will be a limitless shame.

    I also hope his young victims get the closure they deserve too. I note more and more people are pointing out some of the more lurid allegations contained in the files, with a view that a criminal investigation should now be reopened. After the interrogation of AMW, the Americans may be shamed into addressing these monstrous crimes. About time too.
    The trouble is that the more allegations pile up, the more he needs to try and stay in power at all costs.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,454
    Cyclefree said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:
    I have posted on PB a few times over the years that a senior politician once told me that they wouldn’t be surprised to wake up one day to the news that Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor’s bodyguards had shot and killed AMW.

    Getting Indiraed is the technical term.
    I wonder if he sometimes now wishes they had.
    I do wonder in all this if AMW may compromise his brother, or even if Charles is interviewed over just what he knew when his mother and himself paid the money to Virginia Giuffre

    This could get even more of a problem for the royals
    If anything Charles has come out well this week, especially once it became clear he advised against his brother being appointed the trade envoy where he leaked inforrmation but his mother overruled him and Mandelson ensured Andrew got the job anyway.

    Andrew has of course faced no charges as yet about sex and was only arrested in relation to leaking information as a trade envoy
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/38288484/mandelson-pushed-prince-andrew-trade-envoy-despite-king-concerns/
    As PB’s premier royalist, what do your think of Andrew paying £12m of the queen’s (and possibly others’) money with her full support to a woman he said he’d never met, for something he never did?
    Has that figure ever been confirmed? I ask because after Virginia Giuffre died her estate was very small and there was talk of arguments among her family about where the money was.
    Of the £12 million it was reported £2 million went to her charity, £3 million went to her lawyers for the case, and a few million went on her legal fees due to the cases brought against her by Alan Dershowitz and others.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 6,989

    nico67 said:

    Farage: That well-known traveller @Leon is in Taiwan trying to get into a silicon foundry?

    Hold my beer.


    Nigel Farage MP

    @Nigel_Farage
    ·
    48m
    I have been denied entry to the Chagos Islands by the UK government.

    https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/2025273596156019094

    More pathetic showboating by the Trump gimp .
    You OK hun?
    Fine thanks . Farage is a security risk .
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,066
    edited 7:26PM

    Robert A. Pape
    @ProfessorPape
    ·
    4h
    This represents 40-50% of the deployable US air power in the world. Think air power on the order of the 1991 and 2003 Iraq war. And growing. Never has the US deployed this much force against a potential enemy and not launched strikes.

    https://x.com/ProfessorPape/status/2025214568050446627

    While America is distracted, a "Pearl Harbour" style strike by China?
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,170
    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    BTW:

    ChatJimmy. Wow.

    I mean it's a model hardcoded into silicon (and a small and an out of date one at that), but at the same time... it's 17,000 tokens per second. That's literally instant.

    Speed is impressive. But its embarrassingly wrong a lot of the time.
    It’s shit.

    I asked it about wrestler Road Warrior Hawk, first thing came into my head and I know the answers, the answers it gave were pitifully wrong.
    Not as bad as the Welsh rugby team.

    I don't know what's more embarrassing - the result, or the feeble attempts to 'take the positives.'

    If the whole of the WRU isn't sacked following this, it's time for a revolution.
    I know little about their travails apart from they used to be a great side with four regions churning out top drawer players a few years back.

    Now they aren’t.

    I’ve seen some people online blaming the high ups for redirecting money to the women’s game or for DEI policies which sound like excuses.

    I’d hope Wales come back. There’s something about a great Welsh team.
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,170
    ydoethur said:

    Farage: That well-known traveller @Leon is in Taiwan trying to get into a silicon foundry?

    Hold my beer.


    Nigel Farage MP

    @Nigel_Farage
    ·
    48m
    I have been denied entry to the Chagos Islands by the UK government.

    https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/2025273596156019094

    another stupid mistake by Keir.

    Should have allowed him entry, but then refused him exit.
    Should have let him in and then plastered Clacton with posters of ‘where’s Wally’ showing him thousands of miles away.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 86,550

    Cyclefree said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:
    I have posted on PB a few times over the years that a senior politician once told me that they wouldn’t be surprised to wake up one day to the news that Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor’s bodyguards had shot and killed AMW.

    Getting Indiraed is the technical term.
    I wonder if he sometimes now wishes they had.
    I do wonder in all this if AMW may compromise his brother, or even if Charles is interviewed over just what he knew when his mother and himself paid the money to Virginia Giuffre

    This could get even more of a problem for the royals
    If anything Charles has come out well this week, especially once it became clear he advised against his brother being appointed the trade envoy where he leaked inforrmation but his mother overruled him and Mandelson ensured Andrew got the job anyway.

    Andrew has of course faced no charges as yet about sex and was only arrested in relation to leaking information as a trade envoy
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/38288484/mandelson-pushed-prince-andrew-trade-envoy-despite-king-concerns/
    As PB’s premier royalist, what do your think of Andrew paying £12m of the queen’s (and possibly others’) money with her full support to a woman he said he’d never met, for something he never did?
    Has that figure ever been confirmed? I ask because after Virginia Giuffre died her estate was very small and there was talk of arguments among her family about where the money was.
    Of the £12 million it was reported £2 million went to her charity, £3 million went to her lawyers for the case, and a few million went on her legal fees due to the cases brought against her by Alan Dershowitz and others.
    Dershowitz is vile.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 6,989
    Farage is all heart ! Anyone who thinks he gives a fig about the Chagossians is a moron .
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,754
    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Farage: That well-known traveller @Leon is in Taiwan trying to get into a silicon foundry?

    Hold my beer.


    Nigel Farage MP

    @Nigel_Farage
    ·
    48m
    I have been denied entry to the Chagos Islands by the UK government.

    https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/2025273596156019094

    another stupid mistake by Keir.

    Should have allowed him entry, but then refused him exit.
    Should have let him in and then plastered Clacton with posters of ‘where’s Wally’ showing him thousands of miles away.
    He could have done both!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,891
    nico67 said:

    Farage is all heart ! Anyone who thinks he gives a fig about the Chagossians is a moron .

    Do you?
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,777

    Barnesian said:

    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    algarkirk said:

    algarkirk said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Despite the theme of white man's rage being at least tangentially on-topic, it was a case of blink and you'll have missed it for this Saturday morning's visitor. A measly four posts only - poorest performance in a long while - and while TSE was on holiday too.

    In the last week I have twice had run-ins with crazy angry people while out and about. The first case was at our local railway station, where I misunderstood where someone was going and inadvertently blocked them (or they blocked me) and was shouted at to look where I was going, the second in our local supermarket carpark where I accidentally tapped the door of the car next to mine while opening my car door, way too lightly to leave any kind of mark but the person in the car got out and remonstrated with me about it like I had done it deliberately. Both these people were middle aged women so it seems that rage is well distributed across the sexes.
    Yesterday a youngish man ran after me after I'd posted a leaflet through his door that had "No Junk Mail" on his letterbox. I said that it had info in it he might find useful. He tore the leaflet into pieces and threw it at me. Next he took out his phone and took my picture. I suspect it'll go up in the street WhatsApp Group!

    Some people are wired, on a trigger. Perhaps the long run of dull rainy days has got to them. Or the news.
    You shouldn't have put it through his door, and thoroughly deserved the response, though the picture is a bit much. It's exceedingly pompous to imagine that there was an exception for your junk mail.
    Mine wasn't junk mail. It had useful information on it. He thought it was junk mail but I wasn't to know that and didn't want to deny him the choice.
    If he requested no junk mail, which generally means unsolicited, it’s poor form to post it in his box
    The householder's mistake was the use of the vague pejorative term of "junk mail", whose interpretation is open to question and indeed is almost guaranteed to breed confusion since who is going to be giving up their free time to deliver something they consider to be junk? As with all good writing it is better to be more specific, eg "no leaflets, menus or estate agents materials, please" (the "please" because it always pays to be polite).
    Oh please. The mistake was posting unwanted crap. The householder was not the one in the wrong.
    Yes he was. It's obvious that the householder thinks that he is the judge of junk, and isn't going to tell the person putting it through the box in advance how he judges it.

    Such notices lead people (literally) up the garden path and then leave them with an unresolvable ambiguity. Volunteers who post political leaflets deserve better.

    It is also unfair on postmen/women who have no choice as to what they do, but it tries to put them in the wrong.

    It's trivial, but still wrong.

    Sorry but I disagree. If I was canvassing (as I have in the past for independents) and saw a sign saying no junk mail then I would certainly not put a leaflet through that door. You may not like it but for the vast majority of people political flyers are indeed junk mail. Something we then have to dispose of on your behalf. Every flyer from a commercial firm contains information they think you would want to read but it is still junk. The same applies to the brand you are selling.

    It is strange that if I drop paper in the street I can be done for littering. If I stick it through someones letterbox unwanted then it is supposedly fine.

    If someone has gone to the courtesy of putting up a sign then you should have the decency to accept that and move on.
    This small issue is clearly unresolvable.

    I think the meaning of junk mail is fairly clearly unsolicited mail, so anything you haven't requested yourself, from an existing supplier, or from a government agency with the authority to contact you. A political leaflet is just as much junk mail as a leaflet from your local Fried Chicken shop, which equally may contain useful information.

    Why people get so exercised about it I have no idea. Most of mine goes straight in the recycling, occasionally I get something interesting. I certainly don't regard it as a breach of privacy as many seem to do.
    Quite. It's not a contract or agreement. It's a request, polite or otherwise, that can be ignored.
    If a householder wants to get upset about it, that's up to them.
    I react with amusement when a householder runs after me waving the leaflet and shouting.
    I must confess that it doesn't help the situation - but life's too short to take it seriously.
    If it’s a request why ignore it ?

    What do you get from setting out to wind up housheholders ?
    I don't set out to wind up householders. That would negate the purpose of the leafleting and be politically foolish. But very few are wound up enough to remonstrate.

    At each door, I'm making a political judgement of the potential value of them seeing the leaflet and registering our presence even if they don't read it, versus upsetting a potential supporter.
    Almost all those who complain are not supporters anyway.
    Sometimes, if it's in big bold red letters, very tidy garden, I don't deliver. No point. Probably Reform. Why waste a leaflet.
    If it's in faded small green lettering that been up for years, with a pram outside and kids toys and a tatty garden, I deliver. Probably Green. Might even read it. Possibly squeezable.
    Do you have a tidy garden, or a tatty one?
    If you've watched Small Prophets, you'll appreciate the difference.
    No, not seen it. I’ve heard of it. Michael Palin is in it.

    Front and back garden are certainly large by the standards of new build but small by the standard of a thirties semi.

    I’m happy I can keep on top of it.
    Small Prophets is weird and quirky and well worth watching. It's a feel good series 6 x 30 mins.
    Yes Michael Palin is excellent and so is Mackenzie Crook who wrote it. They all are.


    Two neighbours gardens.
    You mean a car park and a garden.
    Yes - the one on the left is Tory/Reform. The one on the right is Green/LD. I think.
    The dynamics between the two neighbours is hilarious.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 6,989

    nico67 said:

    Farage is all heart ! Anyone who thinks he gives a fig about the Chagossians is a moron .

    Do you?
    No not really but I’m not pretending to care !
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,318

    Farage: That well-known traveller @Leon is in Taiwan trying to get into a silicon foundry?

    Hold my beer.


    Nigel Farage MP

    @Nigel_Farage
    ·
    48m
    I have been denied entry to the Chagos Islands by the UK government.

    https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/2025273596156019094

    The Chagos Islands is a strange name for a pub.
    It is actually a restaurant and bar: https://www.concerthotels.com/restaurant/chagos-bar-restaurant/116598
  • CookieCookie Posts: 16,928
    nico67 said:

    nico67 said:

    Farage is all heart ! Anyone who thinks he gives a fig about the Chagossians is a moron .

    Do you?
    No not really but I’m not pretending to care !
    I do. I don't tbink it's an unreasonable principle that those whose country it is should determine its future. That's pretty much the starting point for all my views on geopolirics. There are circumstances in which 'whose' is a bit difficult to unpick, but this isn't one of those.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,318

    Good effort by Wales in the first 30 minutes but you could see they were flagging before half time. Either they aren't fit enough or they need to pace themselves better.

    Isn't the basic problem that Taiwan has done better than mainland China since 1945? It's a daily reminder of what they could have been were it not for Mao and communism.

    Actually, not since 1945 - (or technically December 1949, when Chaing Kai-Shek fled to Taiwan).

    Taiwan was a bit of an economic disaster zone until Chiang Kai-Shek died and his son took over in the 1970s; it was then they they put through sensible economic reforms and it took off.
  • Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    Leon said:

    I have just discovered that the world’s most ultra advanced silicon chips - the very best, the infinitely superb, the chips hurtling us into a terrifyingly new future - are made about 25 minutes’ moped ride from my hotel

    In the same city once seized by the Dutch and the British and various pirates and the Ming Dynasty and various pirates again and then the Japanese empire who built a torture garden and a great department store and then the quasi fascist nationalists of Chiang Kai Shek and now its home to the worlds best oyster omelettes and hot squid buns and weird stinky tofu. It’s all here. Tainan

    TAINAN

    The most important city in the world of which you’ve never heard. It’s here. And so is my next knappers gazette article

    Superb!

    Oh mate, I've heard about it and so have most PBers.

    Why do you think people say a Chinese invasion of Taiwan will lead to a huge chip shortage which could take the world years to recover from.
    Why do you (@Leon) think that the US decided that maintaining their Pacific fleet was much more important than having a standing army in Europe? The US has a major strategic weakness in their dependency on Taiwanese chips and Biden's Chips and Science Act was designed to address that. They are still somewhat short of addressing the weakness but it has to be said that they are a lot further down the road than Europe.
    TaiNan the city not TaiWan the country you stupid moronic dolt

    Yes we all know Taiwan is crucial but how many know this small ancient city in southwest Taiwan is so particularly and weirdly pivotal

    Probably 0.000001% of the world at best and certainly not “nearly everyone on PB” - I sincerely doubt you’d heard of TaiNan the city until now

    I’m right aren’t I? Of course I’m right. I always am
    Yes, only you "know" this.

    PS what do you think of the stinky tofu?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,318
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    Hmmm.

    Leaving aside the issue of a live police investigation, would be a suitable measure for these exception events for the possible con-artist formerly known as Prince to be questioned at the Bar of the House of Commons.

    It would be suitably historic.

    they haven't done that to a royal since the good old days of 1649.

    They finished that one by chopping his head off.
    If another bit of Andrew had been chopped off years ago he wouldn't be in so much bother.
    It would have caused cheerfulness, or at least been a source of apenis.
    You are Mrs De Gaulle, and I claim my five pounds.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,416
    rcs1000 said:

    Good effort by Wales in the first 30 minutes but you could see they were flagging before half time. Either they aren't fit enough or they need to pace themselves better.

    Isn't the basic problem that Taiwan has done better than mainland China since 1945? It's a daily reminder of what they could have been were it not for Mao and communism.

    Actually, not since 1945 - (or technically December 1949, when Chaing Kai-Shek fled to Taiwan).

    Taiwan was a bit of an economic disaster zone until Chiang Kai-Shek died and his son took over in the 1970s; it was then they they put through sensible economic reforms and it took off.
    Either way I think Taiwan's success is humiliating for the CCP.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 658
    As a newbie, do I take this Leon character seriously or is he some weirdo and in his bedroom in a sleeveless sweater with his grandma calling him for his tea?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,674
    edited 7:40PM
    Reform obviously dont fancy it in Gorton then if Nigel is pissing about on the ocean blue
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,681
    edited 7:42PM
    Brixian59 said:

    As a newbie, do I take this Leon character seriously or is he some weirdo and in his bedroom in a sleeveless sweater with his grandma calling him for his tea?

    Neither.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,754
    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    BTW:

    ChatJimmy. Wow.

    I mean it's a model hardcoded into silicon (and a small and an out of date one at that), but at the same time... it's 17,000 tokens per second. That's literally instant.

    Speed is impressive. But its embarrassingly wrong a lot of the time.
    It’s shit.

    I asked it about wrestler Road Warrior Hawk, first thing came into my head and I know the answers, the answers it gave were pitifully wrong.
    Not as bad as the Welsh rugby team.

    I don't know what's more embarrassing - the result, or the feeble attempts to 'take the positives.'

    If the whole of the WRU isn't sacked following this, it's time for a revolution.
    I know little about their travails apart from they used to be a great side with four regions churning out top drawer players a few years back.

    Now they aren’t.

    I’ve seen some people online blaming the high ups for redirecting money to the women’s game or for DEI policies which sound like excuses.

    I’d hope Wales come back. There’s something about a great Welsh team.
    Nothing to do with DEI, they've just been siphoning off money for themselves and their own projects.

    And as a result, there are no players coming through because there is no money at the grass roots. Bluntly, I see no way back.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,754
    rcs1000 said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    Hmmm.

    Leaving aside the issue of a live police investigation, would be a suitable measure for these exception events for the possible con-artist formerly known as Prince to be questioned at the Bar of the House of Commons.

    It would be suitably historic.

    they haven't done that to a royal since the good old days of 1649.

    They finished that one by chopping his head off.
    If another bit of Andrew had been chopped off years ago he wouldn't be in so much bother.
    It would have caused cheerfulness, or at least been a source of apenis.
    You are Mrs De Gaulle, and I claim my five pounds.
    You have the wrong currency. 'Francs' is the word you wanted.

    Coincidentally Frank is my middle name.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,832
    Brixian59 said:

    As a newbie, do I take this Leon character seriously or is he some weirdo and in his bedroom in a sleeveless sweater with his grandma calling him for his tea?

    You're talking about him so he will be happy.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,271
    edited 7:49PM
    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    1m
    I've spent a couple of days in Gorton and Denton. People raised a lot of issues. Immigration was the primary one. Some raised crime. Others housing. A few fly-tipping. You know what wan't raised by a single person. The Chagos Islands.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/2025296341514031107
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,080
    nico67 said:

    nico67 said:

    Farage: That well-known traveller @Leon is in Taiwan trying to get into a silicon foundry?

    Hold my beer.


    Nigel Farage MP

    @Nigel_Farage
    ·
    48m
    I have been denied entry to the Chagos Islands by the UK government.

    https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/2025273596156019094

    More pathetic showboating by the Trump gimp .
    You OK hun?
    Fine thanks . Farage is a security risk .
    The PM just being a risk to our security will be an upgrade.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,199
    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:
    I have posted on PB a few times over the years that a senior politician once told me that they wouldn’t be surprised to wake up one day to the news that Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor’s bodyguards had shot and killed AMW.

    Getting Indiraed is the technical term.
    I wonder if he sometimes now wishes they had.
    I do wonder in all this if AMW may compromise his brother, or even if Charles is interviewed over just what he knew when his mother and himself paid the money to Virginia Giuffre

    This could get even more of a problem for the royals
    If anything Charles has come out well this week, especially once it became clear he advised against his brother being appointed the trade envoy where he leaked inforrmation but his mother overruled him and Mandelson ensured Andrew got the job anyway.

    Andrew has of course faced no charges as yet about sex and was only arrested in relation to leaking information as a trade envoy
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/38288484/mandelson-pushed-prince-andrew-trade-envoy-despite-king-concerns/
    As PB’s premier royalist, what do your think of Andrew paying £12m of the queen’s (and possibly others’) money with her full support to a woman he said he’d never met, for something he never did?
    Has that figure ever been confirmed? I ask because after Virginia Giuffre died her estate was very small and there was talk of arguments among her family about where the money was.
    Of the £12 million it was reported £2 million went to her charity, £3 million went to her lawyers for the case, and a few million went on her legal fees due to the cases brought against her by Alan Dershowitz and others.
    Thanks.

    It's possible that the £12 mio also included Andrew's own legal fees. Unpopular as this may make me, paying £2 mio to settle a US civil case plus legal fees sounds more like a reasonable civil settlement. It's very different to paying £12 mio before legal costs. Irrelevant as it probably now is, the actual settlement not only had no admission of liability (obviously) but also no apology, which I found curious. Had I been in Virginia's shoes I'd have wanted that more than anything.

    What really irks me now is that Mandelson, whose behaviour in my view is worse, has not been arrested or questioned. I really don't want Andrew dangled in front of us to distract attention away from the actions of government Ministers, especially ones who are still legislators.
    Indeed, if Andrew is arrested but Mandelson isn't when they were both allegedly leaking information to Epstein that would be outrageous. Plus of course nobody in America has been arrested despite most of the names in the Epstein files being rich and powerful Americans
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,080
    Brixian59 said:

    As a newbie, do I take this Leon character seriously or is he some weirdo and in his bedroom in a sleeveless sweater with his grandma calling him for his tea?

    You're not a newbie, you're Moonrabbit. It's not remotely entertaining, please cease.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,199

    Reform obviously dont fancy it in Gorton then if Nigel is pissing about on the ocean blue

    They have a lot of canvassers and deliverers out, he doesn't need to be there 24/7.

  • TresTres Posts: 3,488

    Reform obviously dont fancy it in Gorton then if Nigel is pissing about on the ocean blue

    i wonder whose money he is wasting with this stunt?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,271
    Could this tweet decide the 2028 election?



    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    @AOC

    No war with Iran.

    https://x.com/AOC/status/2025258950724145660
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 86,550
    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:
    I have posted on PB a few times over the years that a senior politician once told me that they wouldn’t be surprised to wake up one day to the news that Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor’s bodyguards had shot and killed AMW.

    Getting Indiraed is the technical term.
    I wonder if he sometimes now wishes they had.
    I do wonder in all this if AMW may compromise his brother, or even if Charles is interviewed over just what he knew when his mother and himself paid the money to Virginia Giuffre

    This could get even more of a problem for the royals
    If anything Charles has come out well this week, especially once it became clear he advised against his brother being appointed the trade envoy where he leaked inforrmation but his mother overruled him and Mandelson ensured Andrew got the job anyway.

    Andrew has of course faced no charges as yet about sex and was only arrested in relation to leaking information as a trade envoy
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/38288484/mandelson-pushed-prince-andrew-trade-envoy-despite-king-concerns/
    As PB’s premier royalist, what do your think of Andrew paying £12m of the queen’s (and possibly others’) money with her full support to a woman he said he’d never met, for something he never did?
    Has that figure ever been confirmed? I ask because after Virginia Giuffre died her estate was very small and there was talk of arguments among her family about where the money was.
    Of the £12 million it was reported £2 million went to her charity, £3 million went to her lawyers for the case, and a few million went on her legal fees due to the cases brought against her by Alan Dershowitz and others.
    Thanks.

    It's possible that the £12 mio also included Andrew's own legal fees. Unpopular as this may make me, paying £2 mio to settle a US civil case plus legal fees sounds more like a reasonable civil settlement. It's very different to paying £12 mio before legal costs. Irrelevant as it probably now is, the actual settlement not only had no admission of liability (obviously) but also no apology, which I found curious. Had I been in Virginia's shoes I'd have wanted that more than anything.

    What really irks me now is that Mandelson, whose behaviour in my view is worse, has not been arrested or questioned. I really don't want Andrew dangled in front of us to distract attention away from the actions of government Ministers, especially ones who are still legislators.
    Isn't there some speculation that Mandelson's arrest had been delayed until after the local elections ?

    There's an ongoing criminal investigation, though, isn't there ?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,674
    HYUFD said:

    Reform obviously dont fancy it in Gorton then if Nigel is pissing about on the ocean blue

    They have a lot of canvassers and deliverers out, he doesn't need to be there 24/7.

    The last weekend before a by election is a fairly key time.
    He can play Captain Pugwash any time
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,674

    Could this tweet decide the 2028 election?



    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    @AOC

    No war with Iran.

    https://x.com/AOC/status/2025258950724145660

    Qtwtain
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,271

    Could this tweet decide the 2028 election?



    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    @AOC

    No war with Iran.

    https://x.com/AOC/status/2025258950724145660

    Qtwtain
    Ok. Let's bookmark this moment


  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,674
    edited 7:59PM

    Could this tweet decide the 2028 election?



    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    @AOC

    No war with Iran.

    https://x.com/AOC/status/2025258950724145660

    Qtwtain
    Ok. Let's bookmark this moment


    Sure.
    I dont see her as being relevant to 2028.
    Iran might be a big factor but Ocasio-Cortez won't
  • MaxPB said:

    Nigelb said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    I’m going to go there. Monday. The South Taiwan Science Park. Where TSMC make the world’s best silicon chips

    I reckon if I just act a bit dumb (yes yes) and look like a nerd with a box of tuna sandwiches made by his mum they’ll let me in to the factory and wander around taking photos. Can’t see any likely issues there

    Oddly this isn't true any more. At least according to ASML. Intel are so far the only company that has properly delivered high NA EUV chips using their 14A process which goes into volume production towards the end of this year. I'm given to believe that Intel's first 14A manufacturing is in Oregon and half of the production capacity is already sold to Apple for their next generation of Mac chips.
    Let's wait and see what kind of yields they get.

    They're certainly not ahead of TSMC, but they might now be back in the game.

    In any event the cost/benefit in shrinking feature size is getting smaller with each iteration.
    Other stuff is getting more important.
    14A is certainly ahead of anything TSMC has in production, die shrinks are still going to be very important going forwards, 14A is 50% more dense than anything else available today for example. That alone brings a lot of gains for the highest end chips.
    14A may as well be fairy dust right now. It could end up being as good as they claim, but Intel hasn't introduced a competitive cutting-edge process node since 14nm some 12 years ago. The lack of confirmed customers for 14A suggests those who would be in a position to know are not willing to bet money on it.

    This doesn't please me, TSMC needs competition, but Intel has been a basket case for years and it would be astounding if they could out-engineer TSMC.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 69,898
    Brixian59 said:

    As a newbie, do I take this Leon character seriously or is he some weirdo and in his bedroom in a sleeveless sweater with his grandma calling him for his tea?

    If I was being uncharitable I think you may have just described yourself
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,199
    edited 8:12PM

    HYUFD said:

    Reform obviously dont fancy it in Gorton then if Nigel is pissing about on the ocean blue

    They have a lot of canvassers and deliverers out, he doesn't need to be there 24/7.

    The last weekend before a by election is a fairly key time.
    He can play Captain Pugwash any time
    Apart from speaking in the town centre he is no better a canvasser or deliverer than any other activist.

    In any case both Reform and Labour seem to be canvassing hard and getting data for GOTV on polling day, the Greens not so much focusing on leafleting and signage instead, that could be a fatal error from them if they fail to win on Thursday

    https://conservativehome.com/2026/02/18/alexandra-vivona-the-fear-and-loathing-in-gorton-and-denton/
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,468
    ydoethur said:

    Robert A. Pape
    @ProfessorPape
    ·
    4h
    This represents 40-50% of the deployable US air power in the world. Think air power on the order of the 1991 and 2003 Iraq war. And growing. Never has the US deployed this much force against a potential enemy and not launched strikes.

    https://x.com/ProfessorPape/status/2025214568050446627

    True, but the US has never before been led by a President with such an erratic personality and a penchant for chickening out.
    Absolutely.

    It would be great if Iran were to be liberated from the Ayatollahs and it would be great to see that country as a free society, which I suspect most of the populace would like too, however TACO unfortunately.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,468

    Brixian59 said:

    As a newbie, do I take this Leon character seriously or is he some weirdo and in his bedroom in a sleeveless sweater with his grandma calling him for his tea?

    You're not a newbie, you're Moonrabbit. It's not remotely entertaining, please cease.
    I always thought Moonrabbit and Leon were the same anyway, so Brixian talking about Leon is par for the course..
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,769
    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:
    I have posted on PB a few times over the years that a senior politician once told me that they wouldn’t be surprised to wake up one day to the news that Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor’s bodyguards had shot and killed AMW.

    Getting Indiraed is the technical term.
    I wonder if he sometimes now wishes they had.
    I do wonder in all this if AMW may compromise his brother, or even if Charles is interviewed over just what he knew when his mother and himself paid the money to Virginia Giuffre

    This could get even more of a problem for the royals
    If anything Charles has come out well this week, especially once it became clear he advised against his brother being appointed the trade envoy where he leaked inforrmation but his mother overruled him and Mandelson ensured Andrew got the job anyway.

    Andrew has of course faced no charges as yet about sex and was only arrested in relation to leaking information as a trade envoy
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/38288484/mandelson-pushed-prince-andrew-trade-envoy-despite-king-concerns/
    As PB’s premier royalist, what do your think of Andrew paying £12m of the queen’s (and possibly others’) money with her full support to a woman he said he’d never met, for something he never did?
    Has that figure ever been confirmed? I ask because after Virginia Giuffre died her estate was very small and there was talk of arguments among her family about where the money was.
    Of the £12 million it was reported £2 million went to her charity, £3 million went to her lawyers for the case, and a few million went on her legal fees due to the cases brought against her by Alan Dershowitz and others.
    Thanks.

    It's possible that the £12 mio also included Andrew's own legal fees. Unpopular as this may make me, paying £2 mio to settle a US civil case plus legal fees sounds more like a reasonable civil settlement. It's very different to paying £12 mio before legal costs. Irrelevant as it probably now is, the actual settlement not only had no admission of liability (obviously) but also no apology, which I found curious. Had I been in Virginia's shoes I'd have wanted that more than anything.

    What really irks me now is that Mandelson, whose behaviour in my view is worse, has not been arrested or questioned. I really don't want Andrew dangled in front of us to distract attention away from the actions of government Ministers, especially ones who are still legislators.
    It was said at the time that AMW did not want to settle at all because of the implication of guilt.

    I hope you are recovering from yesterday's fall.
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,170
    Since when did Ash Wednesday become an Arnold J Rimmer tribute ?

    https://x.com/sachinettiyil/status/2024136802370490851?s=61
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 6,989
    Taz said:

    Since when did Ash Wednesday become an Arnold J Rimmer tribute ?

    https://x.com/sachinettiyil/status/2024136802370490851?s=61

    Jeez what a bunch of muppets !
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,170

    Brixian59 said:

    As a newbie, do I take this Leon character seriously or is he some weirdo and in his bedroom in a sleeveless sweater with his grandma calling him for his tea?

    You're not a newbie, you're Moonrabbit. It's not remotely entertaining, please cease.
    From the use of ‘shellacked’ and living Torbay way I assumed it was our old chum Heathener.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,593
    I just asked Google AI to solve a cryptic clue:

    Some average, miniature brain is here (6)

    It got home with a bit of nudging
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 69,898
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Reform obviously dont fancy it in Gorton then if Nigel is pissing about on the ocean blue

    They have a lot of canvassers and deliverers out, he doesn't need to be there 24/7.

    The last weekend before a by election is a fairly key time.
    He can play Captain Pugwash any time
    Apart from speaking in the town centre he is no better a canvasser or deliverer than any other activist.

    In any case both Reform and Labour seem to be canvassing hard and getting data for GOTV on polling day, the Greens not so much focusing on leafleting and signage instead, that could be a fatal error from them if they fail to win on Thursday

    https://conservativehome.com/2026/02/18/alexandra-vivona-the-fear-and-loathing-in-gorton-and-denton/
    He certainly would put a lot of people off

    And Chagos days before an important election shows its all about him
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,468
    Taz said:

    Brixian59 said:

    As a newbie, do I take this Leon character seriously or is he some weirdo and in his bedroom in a sleeveless sweater with his grandma calling him for his tea?

    You're not a newbie, you're Moonrabbit. It's not remotely entertaining, please cease.
    From the use of ‘shellacked’ and living Torbay way I assumed it was our old chum Heathener.
    Also same thing, is it not?
  • TresTres Posts: 3,488
    my pet ai still stuck on the wrong pope
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,754

    I just asked Google AI to solve a cryptic clue:

    Some average, miniature brain is here (6)

    It got home with a bit of nudging

    @Eadric?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,891

    I just asked Google AI to solve a cryptic clue:

    Some average, miniature brain is here (6)

    It got home with a bit of nudging

    Cerebellum is... 10!
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,170
    edited 8:24PM

    Taz said:

    Brixian59 said:

    As a newbie, do I take this Leon character seriously or is he some weirdo and in his bedroom in a sleeveless sweater with his grandma calling him for his tea?

    You're not a newbie, you're Moonrabbit. It's not remotely entertaining, please cease.
    From the use of ‘shellacked’ and living Torbay way I assumed it was our old chum Heathener.
    Also same thing, is it not?
    Really !!

    Is MoonRabbit actually Heathener too !!

    It’s all a bit.

    ‘ I am he as you are he as you are me And we are all together’
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 35,222
    MaxPB said:

    Nigelb said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    I’m going to go there. Monday. The South Taiwan Science Park. Where TSMC make the world’s best silicon chips

    I reckon if I just act a bit dumb (yes yes) and look like a nerd with a box of tuna sandwiches made by his mum they’ll let me in to the factory and wander around taking photos. Can’t see any likely issues there

    Oddly this isn't true any more. At least according to ASML. Intel are so far the only company that has properly delivered high NA EUV chips using their 14A process which goes into volume production towards the end of this year. I'm given to believe that Intel's first 14A manufacturing is in Oregon and half of the production capacity is already sold to Apple for their next generation of Mac chips.
    Let's wait and see what kind of yields they get.

    They're certainly not ahead of TSMC, but they might now be back in the game.

    In any event the cost/benefit in shrinking feature size is getting smaller with each iteration.
    Other stuff is getting more important.
    14A is certainly ahead of anything TSMC has in production, die shrinks are still going to be very important going forwards, 14A is 50% more dense than anything else available today for example. That alone brings a lot of gains for the highest end chips.

    Either way more options and breaking the TSMC monopoly over high end silicon is an absolute must. If we can get Intel back in at the highest end OpenAI's strategy of forcing all users into cloud based AI compute is completely fucked so there's that to look forwards too as well.
    Unfortunately for Taiwan, that will also mean there is less reason for the United States to defend that country against China.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,754
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Brixian59 said:

    As a newbie, do I take this Leon character seriously or is he some weirdo and in his bedroom in a sleeveless sweater with his grandma calling him for his tea?

    You're not a newbie, you're Moonrabbit. It's not remotely entertaining, please cease.
    From the use of ‘shellacked’ and living Torbay way I assumed it was our old chum Heathener.
    Also same thing, is it not?
    Really !!

    Is MoonRabbit actually Heathener too !!

    It’s all a bit.

    ‘ I am he as you are he as you are me And we are all together’
    We are all SeanT!
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,709
    Taz said:

    Since when did Ash Wednesday become an Arnold J Rimmer tribute ?

    https://x.com/sachinettiyil/status/2024136802370490851?s=61

    Couple of years back. Mark Wahlberg and Gwen Stefani do it conspicuously. It's an outward sign of faith.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,454
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    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:
    I have posted on PB a few times over the years that a senior politician once told me that they wouldn’t be surprised to wake up one day to the news that Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor’s bodyguards had shot and killed AMW.

    Getting Indiraed is the technical term.
    I wonder if he sometimes now wishes they had.
    I do wonder in all this if AMW may compromise his brother, or even if Charles is interviewed over just what he knew when his mother and himself paid the money to Virginia Giuffre

    This could get even more of a problem for the royals
    If anything Charles has come out well this week, especially once it became clear he advised against his brother being appointed the trade envoy where he leaked inforrmation but his mother overruled him and Mandelson ensured Andrew got the job anyway.

    Andrew has of course faced no charges as yet about sex and was only arrested in relation to leaking information as a trade envoy
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/38288484/mandelson-pushed-prince-andrew-trade-envoy-despite-king-concerns/
    As PB’s premier royalist, what do your think of Andrew paying £12m of the queen’s (and possibly others’) money with her full support to a woman he said he’d never met, for something he never did?
    Has that figure ever been confirmed? I ask because after Virginia Giuffre died her estate was very small and there was talk of arguments among her family about where the money was.
    Of the £12 million it was reported £2 million went to her charity, £3 million went to her lawyers for the case, and a few million went on her legal fees due to the cases brought against her by Alan Dershowitz and others.
    Thanks.

    It's possible that the £12 mio also included Andrew's own legal fees. Unpopular as this may make me, paying £2 mio to settle a US civil case plus legal fees sounds more like a reasonable civil settlement. It's very different to paying £12 mio before legal costs. Irrelevant as it probably now is, the actual settlement not only had no admission of liability (obviously) but also no apology, which I found curious. Had I been in Virginia's shoes I'd have wanted that more than anything.

    What really irks me now is that Mandelson, whose behaviour in my view is worse, has not been arrested or questioned. I really don't want Andrew dangled in front of us to distract attention away from the actions of government Ministers, especially ones who are still legislators.
    IIRC the £12 million was to Virginia Giuffre, AMW and his family paid his own legal costs outside of the £12 million.

    An interesting question is who is now paying his legal costs, if it legal aid or his brother I am not sure either is palatable to the public.

    As for Mandy, I have absolutely no inside knowledge, but he will be questioned under caution soon, the potential misconduct in public office is much wider for Mandy, AMW was a mere trade envoy, Mandy was the de facto Deputy Prime Minister, he had access to much more sensitive information.

    He's fully lawyered up with Mischon de Reya.
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