I expect it will be a bloodbath for both Tories and Labour. But the results in a handful of London Boroughs where journalists live will be the headline whatever happens.
Tories will gain Westminster and Barnet and hold Kensington and Chelsea I expect, Kemi may not do well with common people like you compared to Nige but she is rather popular with very posh rich people
She is very popular with my wife who is sick of the mans club in politics and my wife is neither posh or rich but is the salt of the earth
Ive decided that for Lent i shall be giving up voting for and ramping Labour. That and tomato ketchup
Couldn't you stick with the ketchup and give up ramping the Tories?
You complain about Tory "ramping", but you throw likes to whatever Brixian is producing..
I give likes to lots of posters irrespective of party loyalty. I'm very generous with my likes. I often like HYUFD's posts and I've even given a couple of likes to @williamglenn recently when he has made some quite comedic interjections.
What kind of saddo checks out the "likes" of other posters? I couldn't give two hoots as to who you give your likes too.
Before Christmas you didn't like my posts, so I try to limit those to the relatively inoffensive. I don't interact with posters I have no time for, except to justify myself, and now you are castigating me for liking other people's posts. What kind of communism is this?
I occasionally let my cursor drift over the like button, just to see who has liked a Brixian post that does nothing but attack Kemi
You seem to be there the most that I've noticed
Do you want me to remove them?
I don't ask you to curtail you dreary dissing of Starmer. It's tiresome, but it's your business and I can just ignore.
Whilst it would be very annoying to be faced with an extra hurdle as a dual citizen and I have sympathy with that burden, it is really fair to talk about a 'scramble' to meet a 'looming deadline' in this story? Any new rule must have a deadline when it comes into effect which some people will not meet, this one appears in the story to have been several years in the offing, and despite what the WASPI campaigners might claim every single person not knowing about a change doesn't make it unreasonable surely? No amount of communication is ever deemed enough in such situations.
I note with interest that Farage has appointed Suella Braverman as 'shadow' Education Secretary. Is this the first sign that he's not really interested any more in getting the top job, but just wants to have a bit of fun?
Curtice is right. If the Tories lose control of big county councils in Tory heartlands like Norfolk and Suffolk and Sussex and Hampshire as well as weather vane marginal Harlow (all councils that until this week were due to have elections postponed ahead of planned reorganisation) that will be a big blow to Kemi. If the Tories also then fall to 3rd in the NEV behind Labour as well as Reform then a VONC by Tory MPs would be likely and Cleverly would likely replace Kemi as leader.
So the pressure is on both Kemi and SKS, whichever of them sees their party 3rd in May is likely a goner by the summer
They hold Harlow by one seat, its hardly going to rock the world if they lose it to NoC They lost Norfolk and East Sussex in 2013 of course so they are hardly monolithically Tory
Labour won the 2013 local elections and the Tories were still largest party in Norfolk and East Sussex in 2013
And?
Reform will almost certainly be largest party in Norfolk and probably East Sussex as well
Thats a natural extrapolation of their leading in the polls, yes. You then interpret that as Cleverly time. Others disagree given its clearly not going to be
I was in my 20s before I realised the toss was essentially superfluous. A gentle flip with a fish slice works just as well and fewer pancakes are lost that way.
I have no idea what that series of euphemisms means.
I respect John Curtice as well and he may be right for those strong reform areas
However, the story of the night will be Scotland and Wales and labour's performance with Starmer in the cross hairs
I know there are several anti Kemi posters on here, but if the conservative party think the way forward is another change of leader to Cleverly then they have not learnt their lesson
This is a marathon, not a sprint and despite the attacks on Kemi, some verging on the very unpleasant, I expect her to remain in office
I was going to vote Plaid in May, but both my wife and I will vote conservative
lol. True to form, you’re always going to vote for someone else until polling day approaches!
I was voting Plaid but they will beat labour anyway so just back to the party I have supported most of my life
In the runup to every single election, you play out just the same
I note with interest that Farage has appointed Suella Braverman as 'shadow' Education Secretary. Is this the first sign that he's not really interested any more in getting the top job, but just wants to have a bit of fun?
If she promises to bring back grammar schools she will get HYUFD’s vote.
I expect it will be a bloodbath for both Tories and Labour. But the results in a handful of London Boroughs where journalists live will be the headline whatever happens.
Tories will gain Westminster and Barnet and hold Kensington and Chelsea I expect, Kemi may not do well with common people like you compared to Nige but she is rather popular with very posh rich people
Boy, you've really gone off Kemi in the last few weeks - any thoughts about a formal defection or are you waiting to see how it plays out after the Locals?
I was in my 20s before I realised the toss was essentially superfluous. A gentle flip with a fish slice works just as well and fewer pancakes are lost that way.
Surely a ban hammer for this? People will be posting that they use grated Parmesan next.
Also, soya milk is indistinguishable from real milk in pancake batter if one of your number has a dairy intolerance. Go on, ban me.
This evening, I have got through 4 eggs, a pound of flour and two pints of milk, which is a record in this house. (Family of 5 - I haven't eaten all that myself). Savoury pancakes for main course, with a filling of bacon, onions, mushrooms and cream, topped with cheese; sweet ones with a choice of lemon/sugar, banana/chocolate or raspberries/maple syrup, or any combination thereof. Opened with "It's pancake day" from Maid Marian and her Merry Men, closed with "If I had possession over pancake day" by Half Man Half Biscuit. Thereby, I think, exhausting the canon of seasonal songs.
I respect John Curtice as well and he may be right for those strong reform areas
However, the story of the night will be Scotland and Wales and labour's performance with Starmer in the cross hairs
I know there are several anti Kemi posters on here, but if the conservative party think the way forward is another change of leader to Cleverly then they have not learnt their lesson
This is a marathon, not a sprint and despite the attacks on Kemi, some verging on the very unpleasant, I expect her to remain in office
I was going to vote Plaid in May, but both my wife and I will vote conservative
lol. True to form, you’re always going to vote for someone else until polling day approaches!
I was voting Plaid but they will beat labour anyway so just back to the party I have supported most of my life
In the runup to every single election, you play out just the same
People need to be more indecisive, it's fun. With more parties to choose from now it might be possible to vote for different parties at each major election for quite an extended run (I'm on 3 different parties for the last 3 GEs, but doubt that will continue).
Curtice is right. If the Tories lose control of big county councils in Tory heartlands like Norfolk and Suffolk and Sussex and Hampshire as well as weather vane marginal Harlow (all councils that until this week were due to have elections postponed ahead of planned reorganisation) that will be a big blow to Kemi. If the Tories also then fall to 3rd in the NEV behind Labour as well as Reform then a VONC by Tory MPs would be likely and Cleverly would likely replace Kemi as leader.
So the pressure is on both Kemi and SKS, whichever of them sees their party 3rd in May is likely a goner by the summer
They hold Harlow by one seat, its hardly going to rock the world if they lose it to NoC They lost Norfolk and East Sussex in 2013 of course so they are hardly monolithically Tory
Labour won the 2013 local elections and the Tories were still largest party in Norfolk and East Sussex in 2013
And?
Reform will almost certainly be largest party in Norfolk and probably East Sussex as well
Thats a natural extrapolation of their leading in the polls, yes. You thrn intetpret that as Cleverly time. Others disagree given its clearly not going to be
I really have no idea why @HYUFD includes Cleverly in near every post
The same Cleverly who sabotaged his own campaign by trying to be too 'cleverly' by half and can apparently now save the consevative party post May
I can understand the attacks on Kemi coming from her opponents but a so called conservative, not so
Curtice is right. If the Tories lose control of big county councils in Tory heartlands like Norfolk and Suffolk and Sussex and Hampshire as well as weather vane marginal Harlow (all councils that until this week were due to have elections postponed ahead of planned reorganisation) that will be a big blow to Kemi. If the Tories also then fall to 3rd in the NEV behind Labour as well as Reform then a VONC by Tory MPs would be likely and Cleverly would likely replace Kemi as leader.
So the pressure is on both Kemi and SKS, whichever of them sees their party 3rd in May is likely a goner by the summer
They hold Harlow by one seat, its hardly going to rock the world if they lose it to NoC They lost Norfolk and East Sussex in 2013 of course so they are hardly monolithically Tory
Labour won the 2013 local elections and the Tories were still largest party in Norfolk and East Sussex in 2013
And?
Reform will almost certainly be largest party in Norfolk and probably East Sussex as well
Thats a natural extrapolation of their leading in the polls, yes. You thrn intetpret that as Cleverly time. Others disagree given its clearly not going to be
I really have no idea why @HYUFD includes Cleverly in near every post
The same Cleverly who sabotaged his own campaign by trying to be too 'cleverly' by half and can apparently now save the consevative party post May
I can understand the attacks on Kemi coming from her opponents but a so called conservative, not so
The whole 'they arent doing as well as when they got 35% NEV' argument for change 18 months after their heaviest ever defeat in a 5 party politcal set up is abject ridiculous nonsense and is in fact the sort of idiocy that has them where they are now
Fortunately i think the remaining Tory MPs arent so inclined
I respect John Curtice as well and he may be right for those strong reform areas
However, the story of the night will be Scotland and Wales and labour's performance with Starmer in the cross hairs
I know there are several anti Kemi posters on here, but if the conservative party think the way forward is another change of leader to Cleverly then they have not learnt their lesson
This is a marathon, not a sprint and despite the attacks on Kemi, some verging on the very unpleasant, I expect her to remain in office
I was going to vote Plaid in May, but both my wife and I will vote conservative
lol. True to form, you’re always going to vote for someone else until polling day approaches!
I was voting Plaid but they will beat labour anyway so just back to the party I have supported most of my life
In the runup to every single election, you play out just the same
You never got over me changing my mind not to vote lib dem
Curtice is right. If the Tories lose control of big county councils in Tory heartlands like Norfolk and Suffolk and Sussex and Hampshire as well as weather vane marginal Harlow (all councils that until this week were due to have elections postponed ahead of planned reorganisation) that will be a big blow to Kemi. If the Tories also then fall to 3rd in the NEV behind Labour as well as Reform then a VONC by Tory MPs would be likely and Cleverly would likely replace Kemi as leader.
So the pressure is on both Kemi and SKS, whichever of them sees their party 3rd in May is likely a goner by the summer
They hold Harlow by one seat, its hardly going to rock the world if they lose it to NoC They lost Norfolk and East Sussex in 2013 of course so they are hardly monolithically Tory
Labour won the 2013 local elections and the Tories were still largest party in Norfolk and East Sussex in 2013
And?
Reform will almost certainly be largest party in Norfolk and probably East Sussex as well
Thats a natural extrapolation of their leading in the polls, yes. You thrn intetpret that as Cleverly time. Others disagree given its clearly not going to be
I really have no idea why @HYUFD includes Cleverly in near every post
The same Cleverly who sabotaged his own campaign by trying to be too 'cleverly' by half and can apparently now save the consevative party post May
I can understand the attacks on Kemi coming from her opponents but a so called conservative, not so
The whole 'they arent doing as well as when they got 35% NEV' argument for change 18 months after their heaviest ever defeat in a 5 party politcal set up is abject ridiculous nonsense and is in fact the sort of idiocy that has them where they are now
Fortunately i think the remaining Tory MPs arent so inclined
When Rishi resigned as leader the Tories were still 10% ahead of Reform, they are now 10% behind Reform.
Kemi has to at least stay second ahead of Labour in May or Tory MPs will decide most of them are goners anyway and they have no choice but to roll the dice on Cleverly, who could at least shore up the Sunak 2024 vote and win more Labour and LD tactical votes in Tory held seats to beat Reform than Kemi would have been able to
I expect it will be a bloodbath for both Tories and Labour. But the results in a handful of London Boroughs where journalists live will be the headline whatever happens.
Tories will gain Westminster and Barnet and hold Kensington and Chelsea I expect, Kemi may not do well with common people like you compared to Nige but she is rather popular with very posh rich people
Boy, you've really gone off Kemi in the last few weeks - any thoughts about a formal defection or are you waiting to see how it plays out after the Locals?
I will never defect, I am a Tory not Reform not LD
I respect John Curtice as well and he may be right for those strong reform areas
However, the story of the night will be Scotland and Wales and labour's performance with Starmer in the cross hairs
I know there are several anti Kemi posters on here, but if the conservative party think the way forward is another change of leader to Cleverly then they have not learnt their lesson
This is a marathon, not a sprint and despite the attacks on Kemi, some verging on the very unpleasant, I expect her to remain in office
I was going to vote Plaid in May, but both my wife and I will vote conservative
lol. True to form, you’re always going to vote for someone else until polling day approaches!
I was voting Plaid but they will beat labour anyway so just back to the party I have supported most of my life
In the runup to every single election, you play out just the same
You never got over me changing my mind not to vote lib dem
Every election you put us all through this extended pantomime, before voting as you always do. Why not be honest and just come out as a committed Conservative voter? There are worse things to be. Well, one or two.
I expect it will be a bloodbath for both Tories and Labour. But the results in a handful of London Boroughs where journalists live will be the headline whatever happens.
Tories will gain Westminster and Barnet and hold Kensington and Chelsea I expect, Kemi may not do well with common people like you compared to Nige but she is rather popular with very posh rich people
She is very popular with my wife who is sick of the mans club in politics and my wife is neither posh or rich but is the salt of the earth
In your neck of the woods BigG I suspect even your dear lady is relatively posh and rich
Labour are obviously scared of Kemi. Any Tories thinking about getting rid of her should reflect on that.
Labour are as scared of Kemi as they were of IDS and the Tories were at least still second in the polls under IDS not third like now
I am with you HY. She is going nowhere fast even whilst Starmer is firing blanks. Imagine the carnage if Labour could put someone into the PM roll who was even barely competent. Mind you as far as I am concerned I'd like to see her stay. Although I feel your frustration.
I respect John Curtice as well and he may be right for those strong reform areas
However, the story of the night will be Scotland and Wales and labour's performance with Starmer in the cross hairs
I know there are several anti Kemi posters on here, but if the conservative party think the way forward is another change of leader to Cleverly then they have not learnt their lesson
This is a marathon, not a sprint and despite the attacks on Kemi, some verging on the very unpleasant, I expect her to remain in office
I was going to vote Plaid in May, but both my wife and I will vote conservative
lol. True to form, you’re always going to vote for someone else until polling day approaches!
I was voting Plaid but they will beat labour anyway so just back to the party I have supported most of my life
In the runup to every single election, you play out just the same
Always hang on to nurse for fear of finding something worse...
Curtice is right. If the Tories lose control of big county councils in Tory heartlands like Norfolk and Suffolk and Sussex and Hampshire as well as weather vane marginal Harlow (all councils that until this week were due to have elections postponed ahead of planned reorganisation) that will be a big blow to Kemi. If the Tories also then fall to 3rd in the NEV behind Labour as well as Reform then a VONC by Tory MPs would be likely and Cleverly would likely replace Kemi as leader.
So the pressure is on both Kemi and SKS, whichever of them sees their party 3rd in May is likely a goner by the summer
They hold Harlow by one seat, its hardly going to rock the world if they lose it to NoC They lost Norfolk and East Sussex in 2013 of course so they are hardly monolithically Tory
Labour won the 2013 local elections and the Tories were still largest party in Norfolk and East Sussex in 2013
And?
Reform will almost certainly be largest party in Norfolk and probably East Sussex as well
Thats a natural extrapolation of their leading in the polls, yes. You thrn intetpret that as Cleverly time. Others disagree given its clearly not going to be
I really have no idea why @HYUFD includes Cleverly in near every post
The same Cleverly who sabotaged his own campaign by trying to be too 'cleverly' by half and can apparently now save the consevative party post May
I can understand the attacks on Kemi coming from her opponents but a so called conservative, not so
The whole 'they arent doing as well as when they got 35% NEV' argument for change 18 months after their heaviest ever defeat in a 5 party politcal set up is abject ridiculous nonsense and is in fact the sort of idiocy that has them where they are now
Fortunately i think the remaining Tory MPs arent so inclined
When Rishi resigned the Tories were still 10% ahead of Reform, they are now 10% behind Reform.
Kemi has to at least stay second ahead of Labour in May or Tory MPs will decide most of them are goners anyway and they have no choice but to roll the dice on Cleverly, who could at least shore up the Sunak 2024 vote and win more Labour and LD tactical votes in Tory held seats to beat Reform than Kemi would have been able to
If the Tories get second are you going to stop ramping Cleverly?
Ive decided that for Lent i shall be giving up voting for and ramping Labour. That and tomato ketchup
Couldn't you stick with the ketchup and give up ramping the Tories?
You complain about Tory "ramping", but you throw likes to whatever Brixian is producing..
I give likes to lots of posters irrespective of party loyalty. I'm very generous with my likes. I often like HYUFD's posts and I've even given a couple of likes to @williamglenn recently when he has made some quite comedic interjections.
What kind of saddo checks out the "likes" of other posters? I couldn't give two hoots as to who you give your likes too.
Before Christmas you didn't like my posts, so I try to limit those to the relatively inoffensive. I don't interact with posters I have no time for, except to justify myself, and now you are castigating me for liking other people's posts. What kind of communism is this?
I occasionally let my cursor drift over the like button, just to see who has liked a Brixian post that does nothing but attack Kemi
You seem to be there the most that I've noticed
Do you want me to remove them?
I don't ask you to curtail you dreary dissing of Starmer. It's tiresome, but it's your business and I can just ignore.
You were the one criticising "ramping"
Brixian has been doing something beyond that, but still gets your approval
I'm just pointing out your inconsistency; I didn't, yet, call it hypocrisy
And wasn't it you who lashed out at my nickname for Starmer?
Curtice is right. If the Tories lose control of big county councils in Tory heartlands like Norfolk and Suffolk and Sussex and Hampshire as well as weather vane marginal Harlow (all councils that until this week were due to have elections postponed ahead of planned reorganisation) that will be a big blow to Kemi. If the Tories also then fall to 3rd in the NEV behind Labour as well as Reform then a VONC by Tory MPs would be likely and Cleverly would likely replace Kemi as leader.
So the pressure is on both Kemi and SKS, whichever of them sees their party 3rd in May is likely a goner by the summer
They hold Harlow by one seat, its hardly going to rock the world if they lose it to NoC They lost Norfolk and East Sussex in 2013 of course so they are hardly monolithically Tory
Labour won the 2013 local elections and the Tories were still largest party in Norfolk and East Sussex in 2013
And?
Reform will almost certainly be largest party in Norfolk and probably East Sussex as well
Thats a natural extrapolation of their leading in the polls, yes. You thrn intetpret that as Cleverly time. Others disagree given its clearly not going to be
I really have no idea why @HYUFD includes Cleverly in near every post
The same Cleverly who sabotaged his own campaign by trying to be too 'cleverly' by half and can apparently now save the consevative party post May
I can understand the attacks on Kemi coming from her opponents but a so called conservative, not so
The whole 'they arent doing as well as when they got 35% NEV' argument for change 18 months after their heaviest ever defeat in a 5 party politcal set up is abject ridiculous nonsense and is in fact the sort of idiocy that has them where they are now
Fortunately i think the remaining Tory MPs arent so inclined
Only the half of them being protected by the "60 seat" strategy I suspect
Seriously, I know and if I know you know and if you know they know another leadership change will leave them open to even more ridicule than now. The corollary (as always) is to find the leader under whom they would be doing demonstrably better. The short answer is, there isn't one.
I've said for a while Badenoch has been doing well enough but May is likely to be difficult for the party with losses to Reform likely to offset gains from Labour. The truth is none of Cleverly, Coutinho or Lam would make any difference.
Our PM puts batter pancakes in despatch boxes for social media. We are doomed
Our PM doesn’t like boxes.
Have you not all realised it's a massive piss take of Boris, Rishi and the Covid Cake
Wait ft for the Ramadan Durham Goat Curry
Oh dear. Your bosses dislike of boxes has clearly gone over your head. Like a few other things. Boris probably ate cake. Did he swallow? Or did he spit the cake out in a comedic moment following jolly japes. None of us know. What would Stamer do?
Does character count? RFK, Jr. provides an interesting test:
On April 15, 1994, Kennedy married architect and designer Mary Kathleen Richardson, a close friend of his sister Kerry, aboard a research vessel on the Hudson River.[469][470] Kennedy has six children, two with Black and four with Richardson.[471]
During his marriage to Richardson, Kennedy was known among his friends for sending explicit nude photos of women that they presumed he had taken, according to Vanity Fair.[29] He reportedly engaged in multiple affairs during the marriage.[472][29][473] His friends later called him a “lifelong philanderer”.[474][475] On May 12, 2010, Kennedy filed for divorce from Richardson. On May 16, 2012, Richardson was found dead in a building on the grounds of her home in Bedford, New York. The Westchester County Medical Examiner ruled the death a suicide due to asphyxiation from hanging.
Before her death, Richardson had discovered Kennedy’s personal journal from 2001, in which he recorded sexual encounters with 37 different women. According to Kennedy, Richardson passed the journal along “to her sisters with instructions that, if anything happened to her, [it should be] published in the press”.
Ive decided that for Lent i shall be giving up voting for and ramping Labour. That and tomato ketchup
Couldn't you stick with the ketchup and give up ramping the Tories?
You complain about Tory "ramping", but you throw likes to whatever Brixian is producing..
I give likes to lots of posters irrespective of party loyalty. I'm very generous with my likes. I often like HYUFD's posts and I've even given a couple of likes to @williamglenn recently when he has made some quite comedic interjections.
What kind of saddo checks out the "likes" of other posters? I couldn't give two hoots as to who you give your likes too.
Before Christmas you didn't like my posts, so I try to limit those to the relatively inoffensive. I don't interact with posters I have no time for, except to justify myself, and now you are castigating me for liking other people's posts. What kind of communism is this?
I occasionally let my cursor drift over the like button, just to see who has liked a Brixian post that does nothing but attack Kemi
You seem to be there the most that I've noticed
Do you want me to remove them?
I don't ask you to curtail you dreary dissing of Starmer. It's tiresome, but it's your business and I can just ignore.
You were the one criticising "ramping"
Brixian has been doing something beyond that, but still gets your approval
I'm just pointing out your inconsistency; I didn't, yet, call it hypocrisy
And wasn't it you who lashed out at my nickname for Starmer?
Curtice is right. If the Tories lose control of big county councils in Tory heartlands like Norfolk and Suffolk and Sussex and Hampshire as well as weather vane marginal Harlow (all councils that until this week were due to have elections postponed ahead of planned reorganisation) that will be a big blow to Kemi. If the Tories also then fall to 3rd in the NEV behind Labour as well as Reform then a VONC by Tory MPs would be likely and Cleverly would likely replace Kemi as leader.
So the pressure is on both Kemi and SKS, whichever of them sees their party 3rd in May is likely a goner by the summer
They hold Harlow by one seat, its hardly going to rock the world if they lose it to NoC They lost Norfolk and East Sussex in 2013 of course so they are hardly monolithically Tory
Labour won the 2013 local elections and the Tories were still largest party in Norfolk and East Sussex in 2013
And?
Reform will almost certainly be largest party in Norfolk and probably East Sussex as well
Thats a natural extrapolation of their leading in the polls, yes. You thrn intetpret that as Cleverly time. Others disagree given its clearly not going to be
I really have no idea why @HYUFD includes Cleverly in near every post
The same Cleverly who sabotaged his own campaign by trying to be too 'cleverly' by half and can apparently now save the consevative party post May
I can understand the attacks on Kemi coming from her opponents but a so called conservative, not so
The whole 'they arent doing as well as when they got 35% NEV' argument for change 18 months after their heaviest ever defeat in a 5 party politcal set up is abject ridiculous nonsense and is in fact the sort of idiocy that has them where they are now
Fortunately i think the remaining Tory MPs arent so inclined
When Rishi resigned as leader the Tories were still 10% ahead of Reform, they are now 10% behind Reform.
Kemi has to at least stay second ahead of Labour in May or Tory MPs will decide most of them are goners anyway and they have no choice but to roll the dice on Cleverly, who could at least shore up the Sunak 2024 vote and win more Labour and LD tactical votes in Tory held seats to beat Reform than Kemi would have been able to
Never wrong @HYUFD but I look forward to you accepting you were wrong when no such vonc occurs
It was amusing you thought that less than 20 conservative mps were required to vonc when it is 39, so you are wrong on occasions you prefer to forget
Mind you if Kemi is not leader post May, then I will be the first to say I was wrong
Curtice is right. If the Tories lose control of big county councils in Tory heartlands like Norfolk and Suffolk and Sussex and Hampshire as well as weather vane marginal Harlow (all councils that until this week were due to have elections postponed ahead of planned reorganisation) that will be a big blow to Kemi. If the Tories also then fall to 3rd in the NEV behind Labour as well as Reform then a VONC by Tory MPs would be likely and Cleverly would likely replace Kemi as leader.
So the pressure is on both Kemi and SKS, whichever of them sees their party 3rd in May is likely a goner by the summer
They hold Harlow by one seat, its hardly going to rock the world if they lose it to NoC They lost Norfolk and East Sussex in 2013 of course so they are hardly monolithically Tory
Labour won the 2013 local elections and the Tories were still largest party in Norfolk and East Sussex in 2013
And?
Reform will almost certainly be largest party in Norfolk and probably East Sussex as well
Thats a natural extrapolation of their leading in the polls, yes. You thrn intetpret that as Cleverly time. Others disagree given its clearly not going to be
I really have no idea why @HYUFD includes Cleverly in near every post
The same Cleverly who sabotaged his own campaign by trying to be too 'cleverly' by half and can apparently now save the consevative party post May
I can understand the attacks on Kemi coming from her opponents but a so called conservative, not so
The whole 'they arent doing as well as when they got 35% NEV' argument for change 18 months after their heaviest ever defeat in a 5 party politcal set up is abject ridiculous nonsense and is in fact the sort of idiocy that has them where they are now
Fortunately i think the remaining Tory MPs arent so inclined
Only the half of them being protected by the "60 seat" strategy I suspect
Seriously, I know and if I know you know and if you know they know another leadership change will leave them open to even more ridicule than now. The corollary (as always) is to find the leader under whom they would be doing demonstrably better. The short answer is, there isn't one.
I've said for a while Badenoch has been doing well enough but May is likely to be difficult for the party with losses to Reform likely to offset gains from Labour. The truth is none of Cleverly, Coutinho or Lam would make any difference.
Precisely. They need to be framing the resultss they get better. Last years 'we could lose every council' wink wink...... oh shit. Was amateur hour Ludicrous ramping of holding Broxbourne and 'progress' in London etc required as it will land with those who don't dig too deep. They will at least have 'something' to point to. As will Labour and everyone else. 2026 will NOT be Reform with some guest sucesses for the LDs (impressive though they were) only like 2025. Get the messaging right
I expect it will be a bloodbath for both Tories and Labour. But the results in a handful of London Boroughs where journalists live will be the headline whatever happens.
Tories will gain Westminster and Barnet and hold Kensington and Chelsea I expect, Kemi may not do well with common people like you compared to Nige but she is rather popular with very posh rich people
Boy, you've really gone off Kemi in the last few weeks - any thoughts about a formal defection or are you waiting to see how it plays out after the Locals?
I will never defect, I am a Tory not Reform not LD
Then support your leader rather than undermine her
Ive decided that for Lent i shall be giving up voting for and ramping Labour. That and tomato ketchup
Couldn't you stick with the ketchup and give up ramping the Tories?
You complain about Tory "ramping", but you throw likes to whatever Brixian is producing..
I give likes to lots of posters irrespective of party loyalty. I'm very generous with my likes. I often like HYUFD's posts and I've even given a couple of likes to @williamglenn recently when he has made some quite comedic interjections.
What kind of saddo checks out the "likes" of other posters? I couldn't give two hoots as to who you give your likes too.
Before Christmas you didn't like my posts, so I try to limit those to the relatively inoffensive. I don't interact with posters I have no time for, except to justify myself, and now you are castigating me for liking other people's posts. What kind of communism is this?
I occasionally let my cursor drift over the like button, just to see who has liked a Brixian post that does nothing but attack Kemi
You seem to be there the most that I've noticed
Do you want me to remove them?
I don't ask you to curtail you dreary dissing of Starmer. It's tiresome, but it's your business and I can just ignore.
You were the one criticising "ramping"
Brixian has been doing something beyond that, but still gets your approval
I'm just pointing out your inconsistency; I didn't, yet, call it hypocrisy
And wasn't it you who lashed out at my nickname for Starmer?
I respect John Curtice as well and he may be right for those strong reform areas
However, the story of the night will be Scotland and Wales and labour's performance with Starmer in the cross hairs
I know there are several anti Kemi posters on here, but if the conservative party think the way forward is another change of leader to Cleverly then they have not learnt their lesson
This is a marathon, not a sprint and despite the attacks on Kemi, some verging on the very unpleasant, I expect her to remain in office
I was going to vote Plaid in May, but both my wife and I will vote conservative
lol. True to form, you’re always going to vote for someone else until polling day approaches!
I was voting Plaid but they will beat labour anyway so just back to the party I have supported most of my life
In the runup to every single election, you play out just the same
You never got over me changing my mind not to vote lib dem
Every election you put us all through this extended pantomime, before voting as you always do. Why not be honest and just come out as a committed Conservative voter? There are worse things to be. Well, one or two.
Ive decided that for Lent i shall be giving up voting for and ramping Labour. That and tomato ketchup
Couldn't you stick with the ketchup and give up ramping the Tories?
You complain about Tory "ramping", but you throw likes to whatever Brixian is producing..
I give likes to lots of posters irrespective of party loyalty. I'm very generous with my likes. I often like HYUFD's posts and I've even given a couple of likes to @williamglenn recently when he has made some quite comedic interjections.
What kind of saddo checks out the "likes" of other posters? I couldn't give two hoots as to who you give your likes too.
Before Christmas you didn't like my posts, so I try to limit those to the relatively inoffensive. I don't interact with posters I have no time for, except to justify myself, and now you are castigating me for liking other people's posts. What kind of communism is this?
I occasionally let my cursor drift over the like button, just to see who has liked a Brixian post that does nothing but attack Kemi
You seem to be there the most that I've noticed
Do you want me to remove them?
I don't ask you to curtail you dreary dissing of Starmer. It's tiresome, but it's your business and I can just ignore.
You were the one criticising "ramping"
Brixian has been doing something beyond that, but still gets your approval
I'm just pointing out your inconsistency; I didn't, yet, call it hypocrisy
And wasn't it you who lashed out at my nickname for Starmer?
Ive decided that for Lent i shall be giving up voting for and ramping Labour. That and tomato ketchup
Couldn't you stick with the ketchup and give up ramping the Tories?
You complain about Tory "ramping", but you throw likes to whatever Brixian is producing..
I give likes to lots of posters irrespective of party loyalty. I'm very generous with my likes. I often like HYUFD's posts and I've even given a couple of likes to @williamglenn recently when he has made some quite comedic interjections.
What kind of saddo checks out the "likes" of other posters? I couldn't give two hoots as to who you give your likes too.
Before Christmas you didn't like my posts, so I try to limit those to the relatively inoffensive. I don't interact with posters I have no time for, except to justify myself, and now you are castigating me for liking other people's posts. What kind of communism is this?
I occasionally let my cursor drift over the like button, just to see who has liked a Brixian post that does nothing but attack Kemi
You seem to be there the most that I've noticed
Do you want me to remove them?
I don't ask you to curtail you dreary dissing of Starmer. It's tiresome, but it's your business and I can just ignore.
You were the one criticising "ramping"
Brixian has been doing something beyond that, but still gets your approval
I'm just pointing out your inconsistency; I didn't, yet, call it hypocrisy
And wasn't it you who lashed out at my nickname for Starmer?
I didn't lash out. I just wrote that it wasn't a very effective slight.
I haven't exactly been Starmer's biggest fan on here recently.
Just give me a list of all the posters you would like me to remove my likes from and if I have a minute I will remove them for you.
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Ive decided that for Lent i shall be giving up voting for and ramping Labour. That and tomato ketchup
Couldn't you stick with the ketchup and give up ramping the Tories?
You complain about Tory "ramping", but you throw likes to whatever Brixian is producing..
I give likes to lots of posters irrespective of party loyalty. I'm very generous with my likes. I often like HYUFD's posts and I've even given a couple of likes to @williamglenn recently when he has made some quite comedic interjections.
What kind of saddo checks out the "likes" of other posters? I couldn't give two hoots as to who you give your likes too.
Before Christmas you didn't like my posts, so I try to limit those to the relatively inoffensive. I don't interact with posters I have no time for, except to justify myself, and now you are castigating me for liking other people's posts. What kind of communism is this?
I occasionally let my cursor drift over the like button, just to see who has liked a Brixian post that does nothing but attack Kemi
You seem to be there the most that I've noticed
Do you want me to remove them?
I don't ask you to curtail you dreary dissing of Starmer. It's tiresome, but it's your business and I can just ignore.
You were the one criticising "ramping"
Brixian has been doing something beyond that, but still gets your approval
I'm just pointing out your inconsistency; I didn't, yet, call it hypocrisy
And wasn't it you who lashed out at my nickname for Starmer?
Ive decided that for Lent i shall be giving up voting for and ramping Labour. That and tomato ketchup
Couldn't you stick with the ketchup and give up ramping the Tories?
You complain about Tory "ramping", but you throw likes to whatever Brixian is producing..
I give likes to lots of posters irrespective of party loyalty. I'm very generous with my likes. I often like HYUFD's posts and I've even given a couple of likes to @williamglenn recently when he has made some quite comedic interjections.
What kind of saddo checks out the "likes" of other posters? I couldn't give two hoots as to who you give your likes too.
Before Christmas you didn't like my posts, so I try to limit those to the relatively inoffensive. I don't interact with posters I have no time for, except to justify myself, and now you are castigating me for liking other people's posts. What kind of communism is this?
I occasionally let my cursor drift over the like button, just to see who has liked a Brixian post that does nothing but attack Kemi
You seem to be there the most that I've noticed
Do you want me to remove them?
I don't ask you to curtail you dreary dissing of Starmer. It's tiresome, but it's your business and I can just ignore.
You were the one criticising "ramping"
Brixian has been doing something beyond that, but still gets your approval
I'm just pointing out your inconsistency; I didn't, yet, call it hypocrisy
And wasn't it you who lashed out at my nickname for Starmer?
Ive decided that for Lent i shall be giving up voting for and ramping Labour. That and tomato ketchup
Couldn't you stick with the ketchup and give up ramping the Tories?
You complain about Tory "ramping", but you throw likes to whatever Brixian is producing..
I give likes to lots of posters irrespective of party loyalty. I'm very generous with my likes. I often like HYUFD's posts and I've even given a couple of likes to @williamglenn recently when he has made some quite comedic interjections.
What kind of saddo checks out the "likes" of other posters? I couldn't give two hoots as to who you give your likes too.
Before Christmas you didn't like my posts, so I try to limit those to the relatively inoffensive. I don't interact with posters I have no time for, except to justify myself, and now you are castigating me for liking other people's posts. What kind of communism is this?
I occasionally let my cursor drift over the like button, just to see who has liked a Brixian post that does nothing but attack Kemi
You seem to be there the most that I've noticed
Do you want me to remove them?
I don't ask you to curtail you dreary dissing of Starmer. It's tiresome, but it's your business and I can just ignore.
You were the one criticising "ramping"
Brixian has been doing something beyond that, but still gets your approval
I'm just pointing out your inconsistency; I didn't, yet, call it hypocrisy
And wasn't it you who lashed out at my nickname for Starmer?
I didn't lash out. I just wrote that it wasn't a very effective slight.
I haven't exactly been Starmer's biggest fan on here recently.
Just give me a list of all the posters you would like me to remove my likes from and if I have a minute I will remove them for you.
I appreciate your likes; they help me see who you are
If you don’t want them pointed out, stop making them on a forum where they’re publicly displayed
Our PM puts batter pancakes in despatch boxes for social media. We are doomed
Our PM doesn’t like boxes.
Have you not all realised it's a massive piss take of Boris, Rishi and the Covid Cake
Wait ft for the Ramadan Durham Goat Curry
Oh dear. Your bosses dislike of boxes has clearly gone over your head. Like a few other things. Boris probably ate cake. Did he swallow? Or did he spit the cake out in a comedic moment following jolly japes. None of us know. What would Stamer do?
Surely the pancake is representative of growth under Reeves stewardship of the economy. Growth, as in as flat as a….
Ive decided that for Lent i shall be giving up voting for and ramping Labour. That and tomato ketchup
Couldn't you stick with the ketchup and give up ramping the Tories?
You complain about Tory "ramping", but you throw likes to whatever Brixian is producing..
I give likes to lots of posters irrespective of party loyalty. I'm very generous with my likes. I often like HYUFD's posts and I've even given a couple of likes to @williamglenn recently when he has made some quite comedic interjections.
What kind of saddo checks out the "likes" of other posters? I couldn't give two hoots as to who you give your likes too.
Before Christmas you didn't like my posts, so I try to limit those to the relatively inoffensive. I don't interact with posters I have no time for, except to justify myself, and now you are castigating me for liking other people's posts. What kind of communism is this?
I occasionally let my cursor drift over the like button, just to see who has liked a Brixian post that does nothing but attack Kemi
You seem to be there the most that I've noticed
Do you want me to remove them?
I don't ask you to curtail you dreary dissing of Starmer. It's tiresome, but it's your business and I can just ignore.
You were the one criticising "ramping"
Brixian has been doing something beyond that, but still gets your approval
I'm just pointing out your inconsistency; I didn't, yet, call it hypocrisy
And wasn't it you who lashed out at my nickname for Starmer?
I didn't lash out. I just wrote that it wasn't a very effective slight.
I haven't exactly been Starmer's biggest fan on here recently.
Just give me a list of all the posters you would like me to remove my likes from and if I have a minute I will remove them for you.
I appreciate your likes; they help me see who you are
If you don’t want them pointed out, stop making them on a forum where they’re publicly displayed
Ive decided that for Lent i shall be giving up voting for and ramping Labour. That and tomato ketchup
Couldn't you stick with the ketchup and give up ramping the Tories?
You complain about Tory "ramping", but you throw likes to whatever Brixian is producing..
I give likes to lots of posters irrespective of party loyalty. I'm very generous with my likes. I often like HYUFD's posts and I've even given a couple of likes to @williamglenn recently when he has made some quite comedic interjections.
What kind of saddo checks out the "likes" of other posters? I couldn't give two hoots as to who you give your likes too.
Before Christmas you didn't like my posts, so I try to limit those to the relatively inoffensive. I don't interact with posters I have no time for, except to justify myself, and now you are castigating me for liking other people's posts. What kind of communism is this?
I occasionally let my cursor drift over the like button, just to see who has liked a Brixian post that does nothing but attack Kemi
You seem to be there the most that I've noticed
Do you want me to remove them?
I don't ask you to curtail you dreary dissing of Starmer. It's tiresome, but it's your business and I can just ignore.
You were the one criticising "ramping"
Brixian has been doing something beyond that, but still gets your approval
I'm just pointing out your inconsistency; I didn't, yet, call it hypocrisy
And wasn't it you who lashed out at my nickname for Starmer?
I didn't lash out. I just wrote that it wasn't a very effective slight.
I haven't exactly been Starmer's biggest fan on here recently.
Just give me a list of all the posters you would like me to remove my likes from and if I have a minute I will remove them for you.
I appreciate your likes; they help me see who you are
If you don’t want them pointed out, stop making them on a forum where they’re publicly displayed
Ive decided that for Lent i shall be giving up voting for and ramping Labour. That and tomato ketchup
Couldn't you stick with the ketchup and give up ramping the Tories?
You complain about Tory "ramping", but you throw likes to whatever Brixian is producing..
I give likes to lots of posters irrespective of party loyalty. I'm very generous with my likes. I often like HYUFD's posts and I've even given a couple of likes to @williamglenn recently when he has made some quite comedic interjections.
What kind of saddo checks out the "likes" of other posters? I couldn't give two hoots as to who you give your likes too.
Before Christmas you didn't like my posts, so I try to limit those to the relatively inoffensive. I don't interact with posters I have no time for, except to justify myself, and now you are castigating me for liking other people's posts. What kind of communism is this?
I occasionally let my cursor drift over the like button, just to see who has liked a Brixian post that does nothing but attack Kemi
You seem to be there the most that I've noticed
Do you want me to remove them?
I don't ask you to curtail you dreary dissing of Starmer. It's tiresome, but it's your business and I can just ignore.
You were the one criticising "ramping"
Brixian has been doing something beyond that, but still gets your approval
I'm just pointing out your inconsistency; I didn't, yet, call it hypocrisy
And wasn't it you who lashed out at my nickname for Starmer?
Our PM puts batter pancakes in despatch boxes for social media. We are doomed
Our PM doesn’t like boxes.
Have you not all realised it's a massive piss take of Boris, Rishi and the Covid Cake
Wait ft for the Ramadan Durham Goat Curry
Oh dear. Your bosses dislike of boxes has clearly gone over your head. Like a few other things. Boris probably ate cake. Did he swallow? Or did he spit the cake out in a comedic moment following jolly japes. None of us know. What would Stamer do?
Surely the pancake is representative of growth under Reeves stewardship of the economy. Growth, as in as flat as a….
There a few metaphors in play here. But yes. Reeves may be as flat as a pancake. But I’ve not seen her in person.
Has anyone here ever been positively roused by a Starmer speech?
I tried knocking one out but, alas. Starmer is the anti-spooge
No.
None of the current Party leaders are good orators.
Kemi is pretty good imo.
Chatgpt reckons that Farage is one of the best orators since 1945, and was central to mobilising Leave voters in the Brexit campaign.
The full list: 1. Winston Churchill 2. Enoch Powell 3. Margaret Thatcher 4. Tony Blair 5. Aneurin Bevan 6. Denis Healey 7. Michael Foot 8. Nigel Farage 9. William Hague 10. David Lloyd George
Honourable Mentions Robin Cook George Galloway Boris Johnson.
I expect it will be a bloodbath for both Tories and Labour. But the results in a handful of London Boroughs where journalists live will be the headline whatever happens.
Tories will gain Westminster and Barnet and hold Kensington and Chelsea I expect, Kemi may not do well with common people like you compared to Nige but she is rather popular with very posh rich people
She is very popular with my wife who is sick of the mans club in politics and my wife is neither posh or rich but is the salt of the earth
In your neck of the woods BigG I suspect even your dear lady is relatively posh and rich
My wife comes from a Scottish fishing community over generations, and you cannot get further from posh or rich as they laboured hard and honestly founded in their faith to protect their men at sea
Indeed my late father in law, a successful Scots fisherman awarded a BEM by late King George did not want to accept it, but his mp said you would insult the King to which he responded 'I wouldnt want to insult any man' and went to the Palace
My father in law compared fishing to mining both of which had dangers but he admired miners for going underground into danger
Ive decided that for Lent i shall be giving up voting for and ramping Labour. That and tomato ketchup
Couldn't you stick with the ketchup and give up ramping the Tories?
You complain about Tory "ramping", but you throw likes to whatever Brixian is producing..
I give likes to lots of posters irrespective of party loyalty. I'm very generous with my likes. I often like HYUFD's posts and I've even given a couple of likes to @williamglenn recently when he has made some quite comedic interjections.
What kind of saddo checks out the "likes" of other posters? I couldn't give two hoots as to who you give your likes too.
Before Christmas you didn't like my posts, so I try to limit those to the relatively inoffensive. I don't interact with posters I have no time for, except to justify myself, and now you are castigating me for liking other people's posts. What kind of communism is this?
I occasionally let my cursor drift over the like button, just to see who has liked a Brixian post that does nothing but attack Kemi
You seem to be there the most that I've noticed
Do you want me to remove them?
I don't ask you to curtail you dreary dissing of Starmer. It's tiresome, but it's your business and I can just ignore.
You were the one criticising "ramping"
Brixian has been doing something beyond that, but still gets your approval
I'm just pointing out your inconsistency; I didn't, yet, call it hypocrisy
And wasn't it you who lashed out at my nickname for Starmer?
Has anyone here ever been positively roused by a Starmer speech?
I tried knocking one out but, alas. Starmer is the anti-spooge
No.
None of the current Party leaders are good orators.
Kemi is pretty good imo.
Chatgpt reckons that Farage is one of the best orators since 1945, and was central to mobilising Leave voters in the Brexit campaign.
The full list: 1. Winston Churchill 2. Enoch Powell 3. Margaret Thatcher 4. Tony Blair 5. Aneurin Bevan 6. Denis Healey 7. Michael Foot 8. Nigel Farage 9. William Hague 10. David Lloyd George
Honourable Mentions Robin Cook George Galloway Boris Johnson.
Considering David Lloyd George died in March 1945 that is some acheivement or more likely Chat GPT is more full of bollocks than my boxer shorts.
Our PM puts batter pancakes in despatch boxes for social media. We are doomed
Our PM doesn’t like boxes.
Have you not all realised it's a massive piss take of Boris, Rishi and the Covid Cake
Wait ft for the Ramadan Durham Goat Curry
Oh dear. Your bosses dislike of boxes has clearly gone over your head. Like a few other things. Boris probably ate cake. Did he swallow? Or did he spit the cake out in a comedic moment following jolly japes. None of us know. What would Stamer do?
Surely the pancake is representative of growth under Reeves stewardship of the economy. Growth, as in as flat as a….
There a few metaphors in play here. But yes. Reeves may be as flat as a pancake. But I’ve not seen her in person.
Our PM puts batter pancakes in despatch boxes for social media. We are doomed
Our PM doesn’t like boxes.
Have you not all realised it's a massive piss take of Boris, Rishi and the Covid Cake
Wait ft for the Ramadan Durham Goat Curry
Oh dear. Your bosses dislike of boxes has clearly gone over your head. Like a few other things. Boris probably ate cake. Did he swallow? Or did he spit the cake out in a comedic moment following jolly japes. None of us know. What would Stamer do?
Surely the pancake is representative of growth under Reeves stewardship of the economy. Growth, as in as flat as a….
There a few metaphors in play here. But yes. Reeves may be as flat as a pancake. But I’ve not seen her in person.
I expect it will be a bloodbath for both Tories and Labour. But the results in a handful of London Boroughs where journalists live will be the headline whatever happens.
Tories will gain Westminster and Barnet and hold Kensington and Chelsea I expect, Kemi may not do well with common people like you compared to Nige but she is rather popular with very posh rich people
Boy, you've really gone off Kemi in the last few weeks - any thoughts about a formal defection or are you waiting to see how it plays out after the Locals?
I will never defect, I am a Tory not Reform not LD
I respect that but the question is not whether you are a Tory but whether the party which calls itself Conservative is.
Many people claim when they leave a party that they haven't left the party but rather the party has left them.
I wouldn't respect you if you defected but if you left the Conservative Party and declared yourself a political orphan I would a) understand and b) point out you were in good company.
Our PM puts batter pancakes in despatch boxes for social media. We are doomed
Our PM doesn’t like boxes.
Have you not all realised it's a massive piss take of Boris, Rishi and the Covid Cake
Wait ft for the Ramadan Durham Goat Curry
Oh dear. Your bosses dislike of boxes has clearly gone over your head. Like a few other things. Boris probably ate cake. Did he swallow? Or did he spit the cake out in a comedic moment following jolly japes. None of us know. What would Stamer do?
Surely the pancake is representative of growth under Reeves stewardship of the economy. Growth, as in as flat as a….
There a few metaphors in play here. But yes. Reeves may be as flat as a pancake. But I’ve not seen her in person.
She's actually well endowed
Really - no wonder labour women are so exercised by men and the mans club attitude to them
Has anyone here ever been positively roused by a Starmer speech?
I tried knocking one out but, alas. Starmer is the anti-spooge
No.
None of the current Party leaders are good orators.
Kemi is pretty good imo.
Chatgpt reckons that Farage is one of the best orators since 1945, and was central to mobilising Leave voters in the Brexit campaign.
The full list: 1. Winston Churchill 2. Enoch Powell 3. Margaret Thatcher 4. Tony Blair 5. Aneurin Bevan 6. Denis Healey 7. Michael Foot 8. Nigel Farage 9. William Hague 10. David Lloyd George
Honourable Mentions Robin Cook George Galloway Boris Johnson.
Has anyone here ever been positively roused by a Starmer speech?
I tried knocking one out but, alas. Starmer is the anti-spooge
No.
None of the current Party leaders are good orators.
Kemi is pretty good imo.
Chatgpt reckons that Farage is one of the best orators since 1945, and was central to mobilising Leave voters in the Brexit campaign.
The full list: 1. Winston Churchill 2. Enoch Powell 3. Margaret Thatcher 4. Tony Blair 5. Aneurin Bevan 6. Denis Healey 7. Michael Foot 8. Nigel Farage 9. William Hague 10. David Lloyd George
Honourable Mentions Robin Cook George Galloway Boris Johnson.
Considering David Lloyd George died in March 1945 that is some acheivement or more likely Chat GPT is more full of bollocks than my boxer shorts.
I don't think he made any speeches in 1945. Did he take his seat in the Lords? If not, hard to think when or where he would have done.
Edit - and of course, when it comes to being full of bollocks, Lloyd George was probably the winner in all respects.
Ive decided that for Lent i shall be giving up voting for and ramping Labour. That and tomato ketchup
Couldn't you stick with the ketchup and give up ramping the Tories?
You complain about Tory "ramping", but you throw likes to whatever Brixian is producing..
I give likes to lots of posters irrespective of party loyalty. I'm very generous with my likes. I often like HYUFD's posts and I've even given a couple of likes to @williamglenn recently when he has made some quite comedic interjections.
What kind of saddo checks out the "likes" of other posters? I couldn't give two hoots as to who you give your likes too.
Before Christmas you didn't like my posts, so I try to limit those to the relatively inoffensive. I don't interact with posters I have no time for, except to justify myself, and now you are castigating me for liking other people's posts. What kind of communism is this?
I occasionally let my cursor drift over the like button, just to see who has liked a Brixian post that does nothing but attack Kemi
You seem to be there the most that I've noticed
Do you want me to remove them?
I don't ask you to curtail you dreary dissing of Starmer. It's tiresome, but it's your business and I can just ignore.
You were the one criticising "ramping"
Brixian has been doing something beyond that, but still gets your approval
I'm just pointing out your inconsistency; I didn't, yet, call it hypocrisy
And wasn't it you who lashed out at my nickname for Starmer?
I didn't lash out. I just wrote that it wasn't a very effective slight.
I haven't exactly been Starmer's biggest fan on here recently.
Just give me a list of all the posters you would like me to remove my likes from and if I have a minute I will remove them for you.
I appreciate your likes; they help me see who you are
If you don’t want them pointed out, stop making them on a forum where they’re publicly displayed
Our PM puts batter pancakes in despatch boxes for social media. We are doomed
Our PM doesn’t like boxes.
Have you not all realised it's a massive piss take of Boris, Rishi and the Covid Cake
Wait ft for the Ramadan Durham Goat Curry
Oh dear. Your bosses dislike of boxes has clearly gone over your head. Like a few other things. Boris probably ate cake. Did he swallow? Or did he spit the cake out in a comedic moment following jolly japes. None of us know. What would Stamer do?
Surely the pancake is representative of growth under Reeves stewardship of the economy. Growth, as in as flat as a….
The fillings link her to a revelation about her economic performances in office.
'And in my mouth 'twas as sweet as honey, but in my belly 'twas bitter.'
In immigration news, FO has found a new wheeze to pi** off the British but not British. They can F.O. if they think they can collect £589 from me. Another U-turn in the making.
Under the existing rules, a dual national is able to travel to the UK using a passport issued by a second country - but from 25 February that will no longer be the case.
Instead, they will need to show either a British passport, or a document called a certificate of entitlement - and without one of them, they could face being denied the right to travel back to the UK.
Emirates Airlines in Dubai tried something similar about a year ago and got educated.
Nope. Irish passports are like upgraded British ones.
The Irish passport really is the king of passports. Watching the Brits sweat in various European passport queues as they sail through serenely must be some sweet Irish karma for those centuries of oppression.
If you are Irish and still holding petty grudges about things that happened before your parents were born when you come from a country that’s generally happy and successful then you need to give your head a wobble. Do they feel guilty about taking tax from other countries’ exchequers by allowing multi-nationals to base themselves there under beneficial tax arrangements? Or letting other countries pick up their slack to ensure Europe is safe? Do they snark at scandi countries for Viking enslavement? I think they should look forward and enjoy the country they have become rather than a moment of tumescence at a British family spending longer in passport queues.
Wow, that touched a nerve! I'm sure most Irish won't allow themselves anything more than a wry smile. But Brexit is certainly a nice vindication of Irish independence, a neat century after the Easter Rising.
My grandmother is Irish, I could have an Irish passport, what I don’t like, as she didn’t like, was the pathetic sense of victimisation in Ireland. She was quite a fervent Irish nationalist and she felt that blaming all their troubles on the Nritish was weak and didn’t allow for the Irish to accept how things were and move on because they were too busy looking at the past and blaming the English for all their woes.
Has anyone here ever been positively roused by a Starmer speech?
I tried knocking one out but, alas. Starmer is the anti-spooge
No.
None of the current Party leaders are good orators.
Kemi is pretty good imo.
Chatgpt reckons that Farage is one of the best orators since 1945, and was central to mobilising Leave voters in the Brexit campaign.
The full list: 1. Winston Churchill 2. Enoch Powell 3. Margaret Thatcher 4. Tony Blair 5. Aneurin Bevan 6. Denis Healey 7. Michael Foot 8. Nigel Farage 9. William Hague 10. David Lloyd George
Honourable Mentions Robin Cook George Galloway Boris Johnson.
Considering David Lloyd George died in March 1945 that is some acheivement or more likely Chat GPT is more full of bollocks than my boxer shorts.
I don't think he made any speeches in 1945. Did he take his seat in the Lords? If not, hard to think when or where he would have done.
He never took his seat, IIRC he stopped making speeches/major interventions in the House of Commons after Churchill compared him to that collaborator Philippe Pétain.
Has anyone here ever been positively roused by a Starmer speech?
I tried knocking one out but, alas. Starmer is the anti-spooge
No.
None of the current Party leaders are good orators.
Kemi is pretty good imo.
Chatgpt reckons that Farage is one of the best orators since 1945, and was central to mobilising Leave voters in the Brexit campaign.
The full list: 1. Winston Churchill 2. Enoch Powell 3. Margaret Thatcher 4. Tony Blair 5. Aneurin Bevan 6. Denis Healey 7. Michael Foot 8. Nigel Farage 9. William Hague 10. David Lloyd George
Honourable Mentions Robin Cook George Galloway Boris Johnson.
Considering David Lloyd George died in March 1945 that is some acheivement or more likely Chat GPT is more full of bollocks than my boxer shorts.
I don't think he made any speeches in 1945. Did he take his seat in the Lords? If not, hard to think when or where he would have done.
He never took his seat, IIRC he stopped making speeches/major interventions in the House of Commons after Churchill compared him to that appeaser Philippe Pétain.
His last major speech was in the Norway debate, but I think his last speech of any sort was in 1943. Haven't checked though.
Has anyone here ever been positively roused by a Starmer speech?
I tried knocking one out but, alas. Starmer is the anti-spooge
No.
None of the current Party leaders are good orators.
Kemi is pretty good imo.
Chatgpt reckons that Farage is one of the best orators since 1945, and was central to mobilising Leave voters in the Brexit campaign.
The full list: 1. Winston Churchill 2. Enoch Powell 3. Margaret Thatcher 4. Tony Blair 5. Aneurin Bevan 6. Denis Healey 7. Michael Foot 8. Nigel Farage 9. William Hague 10. David Lloyd George
Honourable Mentions Robin Cook George Galloway Boris Johnson.
Considering David Lloyd George died in March 1945 that is some acheivement or more likely Chat GPT is more full of bollocks than my boxer shorts.
To be fair, a deceased David Lloyd George is a better orator than Sir Keir Starmer.
Has anyone here ever been positively roused by a Starmer speech?
I tried knocking one out but, alas. Starmer is the anti-spooge
No.
None of the current Party leaders are good orators.
Kemi is pretty good imo.
Chatgpt reckons that Farage is one of the best orators since 1945, and was central to mobilising Leave voters in the Brexit campaign.
The full list: 1. Winston Churchill 2. Enoch Powell 3. Margaret Thatcher 4. Tony Blair 5. Aneurin Bevan 6. Denis Healey 7. Michael Foot 8. Nigel Farage 9. William Hague 10. David Lloyd George
Honourable Mentions Robin Cook George Galloway Boris Johnson.
Considering David Lloyd George died in March 1945 that is some acheivement or more likely Chat GPT is more full of bollocks than my boxer shorts.
I don't think he made any speeches in 1945. Did he take his seat in the Lords? If not, hard to think when or where he would have done.
He never took his seat, IIRC he stopped making speeches/major interventions in the House of Commons after Churchill compared him to that collaborator Philippe Pétain.
Our PM puts batter pancakes in despatch boxes for social media. We are doomed
Our PM doesn’t like boxes.
Have you not all realised it's a massive piss take of Boris, Rishi and the Covid Cake
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Oh dear. Your bosses dislike of boxes has clearly gone over your head. Like a few other things. Boris probably ate cake. Did he swallow? Or did he spit the cake out in a comedic moment following jolly japes. None of us know. What would Stamer do?
Surely the pancake is representative of growth under Reeves stewardship of the economy. Growth, as in as flat as a….
The fillings link her to a revelation about her economic performances in office.
'And in my mouth 'twas as sweet as honey, but in my belly 'twas bitter.'
I expect it will be a bloodbath for both Tories and Labour. But the results in a handful of London Boroughs where journalists live will be the headline whatever happens.
Tories will gain Westminster and Barnet and hold Kensington and Chelsea I expect, Kemi may not do well with common people like you compared to Nige but she is rather popular with very posh rich people
She is very popular with my wife who is sick of the mans club in politics and my wife is neither posh or rich but is the salt of the earth
In your neck of the woods BigG I suspect even your dear lady is relatively posh and rich
My wife comes from a Scottish fishing community over generations, and you cannot get further from posh or rich as they laboured hard and honestly founded in their faith to protect their men at sea
Indeed my late father in law, a successful Scots fisherman awarded a BEM by late King George did not want to accept it, but his mp said you would insult the King to which he responded 'I wouldnt want to insult any man' and went to the Palace
My father in law compared fishing to mining both of which had dangers but he admired miners for going underground into danger
I do like to think, when very bored, that HYUFD is actually your wife with a sneaky PB account trolling you. Pretending to be watching tv and saying things that get your blood pressure up. The pair of you are like a married couple who can’t just ignore but have to keep biting.
Labour are obviously scared of Kemi. Any Tories thinking about getting rid of her should reflect on that.
Labour are as scared of Kemi as they were of IDS and the Tories were at least still second in the polls under IDS not third like now
I am with you HY. She is going nowhere fast even whilst Starmer is firing blanks. Imagine the carnage if Labour could put someone into the PM roll who was even barely competent. Mind you as far as I am concerned I'd like to see her stay. Although I feel your frustration.
She is the Tories' answer to Ed Milliband.
No William Hague was the Tories Ed Miliband and both were very intelligent and deep thinkers even if too nerdy to be elected PM. Hague was also a great speaker and regularly beat Blair at PMQs.
Neither Hague nor Miliband saw their parties third either and Miliband often saw his Labour party leading the polls and even Hague saw the Tories win the 2000 local elections and make gains in 1998 and 1999
I expect it will be a bloodbath for both Tories and Labour. But the results in a handful of London Boroughs where journalists live will be the headline whatever happens.
Tories will gain Westminster and Barnet and hold Kensington and Chelsea I expect, Kemi may not do well with common people like you compared to Nige but she is rather popular with very posh rich people
She is very popular with my wife who is sick of the mans club in politics and my wife is neither posh or rich but is the salt of the earth
In your neck of the woods BigG I suspect even your dear lady is relatively posh and rich
My wife comes from a Scottish fishing community over generations, and you cannot get further from posh or rich as they laboured hard and honestly founded in their faith to protect their men at sea
Indeed my late father in law, a successful Scots fisherman awarded a BEM by late King George did not want to accept it, but his mp said you would insult the King to which he responded 'I wouldnt want to insult any man' and went to the Palace
My father in law compared fishing to mining both of which had dangers but he admired miners for going underground into danger
I do like to think, when very bored, that HYUFD is actually your wife with a sneaky PB account trolling you. Pretending to be watching tv and saying things that get your blood pressure up. The pair of you are like a married couple who can’t just ignore but have to keep biting.
I expect it will be a bloodbath for both Tories and Labour. But the results in a handful of London Boroughs where journalists live will be the headline whatever happens.
Tories will gain Westminster and Barnet and hold Kensington and Chelsea I expect, Kemi may not do well with common people like you compared to Nige but she is rather popular with very posh rich people
She is very popular with my wife who is sick of the mans club in politics and my wife is neither posh or rich but is the salt of the earth
In your neck of the woods BigG I suspect even your dear lady is relatively posh and rich
My wife comes from a Scottish fishing community over generations, and you cannot get further from posh or rich as they laboured hard and honestly founded in their faith to protect their men at sea
Indeed my late father in law, a successful Scots fisherman awarded a BEM by late King George did not want to accept it, but his mp said you would insult the King to which he responded 'I wouldnt want to insult any man' and went to the Palace
My father in law compared fishing to mining both of which had dangers but he admired miners for going underground into danger
How many of your neighbours fathers received a BEM from King George? In North Wales you are both relatively posh now
Labour are obviously scared of Kemi. Any Tories thinking about getting rid of her should reflect on that.
Labour are as scared of Kemi as they were of IDS and the Tories were at least still second in the polls under IDS not third like now
I am with you HY. She is going nowhere fast even whilst Starmer is firing blanks. Imagine the carnage if Labour could put someone into the PM roll who was even barely competent. Mind you as far as I am concerned I'd like to see her stay. Although I feel your frustration.
Has anyone here ever been positively roused by a Starmer speech?
I tried knocking one out but, alas. Starmer is the anti-spooge
No.
None of the current Party leaders are good orators.
Kemi is pretty good imo.
Chatgpt reckons that Farage is one of the best orators since 1945, and was central to mobilising Leave voters in the Brexit campaign.
The full list: 1. Winston Churchill 2. Enoch Powell 3. Margaret Thatcher 4. Tony Blair 5. Aneurin Bevan 6. Denis Healey 7. Michael Foot 8. Nigel Farage 9. William Hague 10. David Lloyd George
Honourable Mentions Robin Cook George Galloway Boris Johnson.
Michael Heseltine and Neil Kinnock were both very fine platform speakers. By all accounts Iain MacLeod was too - apparently one of the things that inspired John Major in his early days was listening to MacLeod's speeches on records - difficult to imagine these days.
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My old boss did his leg some damage playing it.
That makes sense given the link to Brady.
I don't ask you to curtail you dreary dissing of Starmer. It's tiresome, but it's your business and I can just ignore.
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🚨 WATCH: Keir Starmer gifts Rachel Reeves pancakes for Shrove Tuesday
https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2023821505373892954
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Watch and then imagine a second or two later, Malcolm Tucker walks into the room and says "What the fuck do you two lameducks think you are up to?"
Is this the first sign that he's not really interested any more in getting the top job, but just wants to have a bit of fun?
Oh, by the way, Australia are out of the t20 World Cup.
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This evening, I have got through 4 eggs, a pound of flour and two pints of milk, which is a record in this house. (Family of 5 - I haven't eaten all that myself). Savoury pancakes for main course, with a filling of bacon, onions, mushrooms and cream, topped with cheese; sweet ones with a choice of lemon/sugar, banana/chocolate or raspberries/maple syrup, or any combination thereof. Opened with "It's pancake day" from Maid Marian and her Merry Men, closed with "If I had possession over pancake day" by Half Man Half Biscuit. Thereby, I think, exhausting the canon of seasonal songs.
The same Cleverly who sabotaged his own campaign by trying to be too 'cleverly' by half and can apparently now save the consevative party post May
I can understand the attacks on Kemi coming from her opponents but a so called conservative, not so
These people will bring Trump 2.0 politics to Britain and be happy doing so.
Fortunately i think the remaining Tory MPs arent so inclined
Kemi has to at least stay second ahead of Labour in May or Tory MPs will decide most of them are goners anyway and they have no choice but to roll the dice on Cleverly, who could at least shore up the Sunak 2024 vote and win more Labour and LD tactical votes in Tory held seats to beat Reform than Kemi would have been able to
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Is everything alri-
Wait. What’s that you say?
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She is the Tories' answer to Ed Milliband.
Brixian has been doing something beyond that, but still gets your approval
I'm just pointing out your inconsistency; I didn't, yet, call it hypocrisy
And wasn't it you who lashed out at my nickname for Starmer?
Seriously, I know and if I know you know and if you know they know another leadership change will leave them open to even more ridicule than now. The corollary (as always) is to find the leader under whom they would be doing demonstrably better. The short answer is, there isn't one.
I've said for a while Badenoch has been doing well enough but May is likely to be difficult for the party with losses to Reform likely to offset gains from Labour. The truth is none of Cleverly, Coutinho or Lam would make any difference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiTJ7Pz_59A
Do you work for Starmer?
I have long said that — if a man’s wife doesn’t trust him — neither should we.
I didn't think my opinion of this prat could get any lower but hey, live and learn.
It's hard to find Starmer supporters nowadays. They should be nurtured like other protected species.
It was amusing you thought that less than 20 conservative mps were required to vonc when it is 39, so you are wrong on occasions you prefer to forget
Mind you if Kemi is not leader post May, then I will be the first to say I was wrong
They need to be framing the resultss they get better.
Last years 'we could lose every council' wink wink...... oh shit. Was amateur hour
Ludicrous ramping of holding Broxbourne and 'progress' in London etc required as it will land with those who don't dig too deep.
They will at least have 'something' to point to. As will Labour and everyone else.
2026 will NOT be Reform with some guest sucesses for the LDs (impressive though they were) only like 2025.
Get the messaging right
I voted Blair twice
I haven't exactly been Starmer's biggest fan on here recently.
Just give me a list of all the posters you would like me to remove my likes from and if I have a minute I will remove them for you.
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1 I liked her Surrey Telegraph reading friend. Like 'er indoors or Miss Cathcart in Hi de Hi, we viewers never got to truly meet her
Although some posters worried that both @Heathener and @Mysticrose were really @Leon. Although I didn't subscribe to that nonsense.
If you don’t want them pointed out, stop making them on a forum where they’re publicly displayed
Can I simplify it any more?
1. Winston Churchill
2. Enoch Powell
3. Margaret Thatcher
4. Tony Blair
5. Aneurin Bevan
6. Denis Healey
7. Michael Foot
8. Nigel Farage
9. William Hague
10. David Lloyd George
Honourable Mentions
Robin Cook
George Galloway
Boris Johnson.
Indeed my late father in law, a successful Scots fisherman awarded a BEM by late King George did not want to accept it, but his mp said you would insult the King to which he responded 'I wouldnt want to insult any man' and went to the Palace
My father in law compared fishing to mining both of which had dangers but he admired miners for going underground into danger
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Many people claim when they leave a party that they haven't left the party but rather the party has left them.
I wouldn't respect you if you defected but if you left the Conservative Party and declared yourself a political orphan I would a) understand and b) point out you were in good company.
Edit - and of course, when it comes to being full of bollocks, Lloyd George was probably the winner in all respects.
'And in my mouth 'twas as sweet as honey, but in my belly 'twas bitter.'
Neither Hague nor Miliband saw their parties third either and Miliband often saw his Labour party leading the polls and even Hague saw the Tories win the 2000 local elections and make gains in 1998 and 1999